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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition All the Smoke. Jack. We got

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Speaker 1: a special guest here man, uh, former player turned owner.

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of people talk about that, but how

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Speaker 1: often did that really happen? Welcome to the show, Renee Montgomery. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you all for having me. Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 1: had us both on your shows. It was only right to,

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Speaker 1: you know, come back around, especially with all the amazing

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Speaker 1: news that's kind of surrounding you of Labist. I mean,

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Speaker 1: get into the first and foremost congratulations, I'm becoming the

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Speaker 1: first former player turn owner and executive. Thank you. Tell

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Speaker 1: us how let's all all that came about? You know,

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Speaker 1: it started back in October. Um. I felt like I

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Speaker 1: wanted to do something something different, and there was a

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Speaker 1: lot going on. We know, the A had a lot

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Speaker 1: going on. There was Stacy Abram shutting it down. The

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Speaker 1: Hawks were very active with the more than a vote.

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Speaker 1: So I just wanted to think, all right, how can

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Speaker 1: we take this a step further? So then I thought

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Speaker 1: I started to see about Atlanta Dream maybe selling the team.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know, I started to just think

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Speaker 1: about it, talk to some some money people and see

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Speaker 1: if we could get some coins together. It didn't really

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Speaker 1: work out in the beginning, but then I saw a

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Speaker 1: Lebron tweet and I'm like, maybe they can get me

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Speaker 1: in touch with the right people, And he got me

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Speaker 1: in touch with the commissioner of the w n B A,

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Speaker 1: Kathy Engelbert, and then after that it was off to

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Speaker 1: the races. So leave it to Lebron. And it's crazy

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Speaker 1: because like I had already kind of tried to put

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Speaker 1: it in proposal before, but we didn't have the funds there.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have enough funds, and so, um, it was

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Speaker 1: more so of who's already in the bids and how

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Speaker 1: can we figure it out from there? Tell me what

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Speaker 1: it feels like to to think owner and executive when

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Speaker 1: you literally just stepped away from the game. It's crazy

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Speaker 1: because my teammates is like, I think it's more waiting

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Speaker 1: for them because I was just playing with them last year.

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Speaker 1: For me, I think it was the next step. Honestly, Um,

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Speaker 1: everything I was already doing was kind of moving towards

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Speaker 1: the business side of things. I think athletes shoul be

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Speaker 1: more on the business. I don't know why we're not

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Speaker 1: more on the business side of things. We know the

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Speaker 1: business better than anybody else knows it. So I've been

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Speaker 1: talking about that a lot, and just having the voice

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Speaker 1: of the athlete. I know y'all been on teams where

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Speaker 1: you're like, that makes no sense. Why are we doing

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Speaker 1: it like that? We know things that make no sense.

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Speaker 1: But if you have suits at the top that never played,

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Speaker 1: they have no ideas. So I just wanted to be

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Speaker 1: that voice. I think that was the main thing. I

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Speaker 1: think what's so amazing is obviously Kelly Loftler was the

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Speaker 1: previous owner, and you know all the attention surrounding this

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Speaker 1: last voting process back in November UM and you know

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Speaker 1: she was running and and and really the turmoil started

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Speaker 1: before that. You know the team, you guys actually had

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Speaker 1: kind of disagreed on some stances. And one thing I

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Speaker 1: say about the w n B as you guys are

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Speaker 1: so unified on all your messaging, which I don't even

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Speaker 1: you guys somehow saying like a smoke signal, you guys

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Speaker 1: are all down for the ship, which I love. But

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Speaker 1: talk to us a little bit about what it was

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Speaker 1: like playing for her, and then once you kind of

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Speaker 1: found out her true colors, when people kind of started

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Speaker 1: shifting to the other side. Yeah, you know the w

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Speaker 1: the wobble with the Social Justice Council. So that's kind

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Speaker 1: of how everything got on the same page. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: even in the wobble, but they was hitting me up

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Speaker 1: like Yo, this is what we're doing, this is how

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Speaker 1: it was like, it's crazy being here in Atlanta and

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Speaker 1: opting out because everything happened here and it's not even

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Speaker 1: just with with the previous ownership, but just the runoff,

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Speaker 1: Like who would have thought we would have had a

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Speaker 1: you know, here in Atlanta, and it happened the year

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Speaker 1: I opted out. And so the players, I mean, you're right,

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Speaker 1: like just stood tintoes down, like everybody who just was

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Speaker 1: So um, it's it's wild to explain because as it

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Speaker 1: then I was like, yo, this is like this is

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Speaker 1: of crazy, what's going on? Because you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: break more on making a dream a destination team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we gotta do that. Like everybody loves coming to the eight,

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Speaker 1: Like that's when you come to Atlanta. When you play Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: people circle that on their calendars. They're telling their friends

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Speaker 1: everybody that they're coming here, but nobody want to play here.

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Speaker 1: Like we're some with that, So I understand. I mean

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Speaker 1: even when I left Minnesota, we won a championship in

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and when I was leaving Minnesota, everybody's like, yo,

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Speaker 1: you're good, Like they was asking me why I'm going

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Speaker 1: for where I lived. But I don't know. We have

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Speaker 1: to make it. People want to win, and just Atlanta

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Speaker 1: sports have not one. So yeah, like people love the city,

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Speaker 1: but you love the city, would you want to win too?

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Speaker 1: So as athletes, we have to make that next step

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Speaker 1: um the dream. We're a little bit different in the

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Speaker 1: sense of we've been to the finals multiple times we won,

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Speaker 1: but the program just isn't there, the organization isn't there.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna start treating the players like professional athletes.

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Speaker 1: And I know on the men's side that's normal for y'all,

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Speaker 1: but on the women's side, we don't necessarily get catered

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Speaker 1: to like like it is on the men's side. So

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Speaker 1: that's what I want to do with the Atlanta Dream.

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Speaker 1: Just start making that that that destination. They just start

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Speaker 1: getting the celebrities that support the guys need to support

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Speaker 1: you out the same way, thank you, And I think

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big step. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: come to the guys games, not even for the goddamn

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Speaker 1: hals part to see at the game, but the women's

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Speaker 1: team actually wins, so they need that same support. God damnage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna see y'all at the game. It might

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Speaker 1: be closed, you know, this season, but once everything opens up, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we need all that star power. And even with what

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Speaker 1: happened with the n C Double A, like, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that. Obviously, you guys have continued to fight for

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Speaker 1: the n B n C Double A is super slimy

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Speaker 1: continued to be the way. But someone happened to call

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Speaker 1: out a reck of weights when the men have every minute.

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Speaker 1: But then they try to come out and say instead

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Speaker 1: excuse that there wasn't plenty of room, and then someone

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Speaker 1: shows there's plenty of room, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: So what are your I guess you just add that

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Speaker 1: you guys. Know, And that's the thing, Like if anybody's

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Speaker 1: been around women's sports, it's not new. Like in two

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Speaker 1: thousand nine, we want a championship. We were undefeated and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that on the men's side, whoever won that

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Speaker 1: year probably had double the swag. But like you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm not I'm not surprised. So anybody

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Speaker 1: that's around women's sports, around sports in general, we know

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Speaker 1: how it goes. You know, we still flying commercial, we

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Speaker 1: know how it goes. I went from at Yukon we

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Speaker 1: were lying private. You see what I'm saying. So if

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Speaker 1: it's not acceptable, Like we're not surprised, but we are

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Speaker 1: disappointed that man, Like, that's that's an oversight. And so

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Speaker 1: what they said was, we really didn't plan on having

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Speaker 1: any weight rooms until the sweet sixteen. Um, but why

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Speaker 1: not that that's the question, you know, like that the

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Speaker 1: excuse was that there wasn't any plan until the sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: But what about the sixty four? Did they not want

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Speaker 1: to get in a workout? Yeah? So for me, it's

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Speaker 1: this is I'm glad it got called out. If we're

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Speaker 1: see it. Like some people have to see something to

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Speaker 1: believe in it. So you saw the picture. You saw

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Speaker 1: the picture, you saw the food, you saw the swag bags.

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Speaker 1: You can't deny it. So now you gotta do something

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Speaker 1: about it. What I thought was dope. There you start

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Speaker 1: seeing other male athletes post on it, and I reposted

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's the kind of attention

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Speaker 1: because as male athletes, our voices travel, you know, especially

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Speaker 1: the guys still currently in the league. So it's we're

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Speaker 1: all in this fight with y'all. Man, We're gonna keep

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Speaker 1: pushing with you guys. I appreciate that. And speaking of

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Speaker 1: I saw Steph Curry you like you guys, But that matters.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't know. But it's

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Speaker 1: kind of the same what Stack was saying about going

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think for whatever reason, the sponsors are

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Speaker 1: like it, take us back to your upbringing childhood. When

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Speaker 1: We didn't have it when I started practicing. I didn't

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Speaker 1: long that my dad made a hoop, very unconventional hoop,

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Speaker 1: but it worked for me. Nobody from West Virginia had

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Speaker 1: just when people would tell me, well you're kind of small,

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Speaker 1: But it was just just the one to you know.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what drove me. Just being in West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, how am I going to get these coaches

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Speaker 1: We started recruiting because we don't we don't necessarily have

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Speaker 1: even when I became a McDonald's All American, it was

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Speaker 1: like when I was there, people like, who is this

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Speaker 1: would be offended if people weren't doing things right, because

427
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,480
Speaker 1: they would be like, this is her last year, you know,

428
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,480
Speaker 1: like they would get on the people using that as

429
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 1: um the incentive. And so that was probably the coolest

430
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,359
Speaker 1: part about that year is how much everyone wanted it

431
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 1: for me. You still were able to have fun or

432
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,360
Speaker 1: even though you were Okay, that was my senior years,

433
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 1: so let's be clear. Pisting the trophy up, Yeah, which

434
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 1: one cool? She flexed You didn't even know it. See

435
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,680
Speaker 1: you see that you see that life place? Uh just

436
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,639
Speaker 1: I would say the last one and being the first

437
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 1: to be a Husky Varno, Yeah, you know, the Ukon trophy.

438
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,640
Speaker 1: That was special for all the reasons that I just said,

439
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 1: Like I was like, oh my gosh, we did it

440
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: and we weren't even in the game at the end

441
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: of the game because we was able to get up

442
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 1: by enough and I still was nervous, like I wanted

443
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 1: the buzzer to go off. I wanted it to be done, like,

444
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 1: I don't want no problems. We know March madness can

445
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 1: get crazy. That one. I mean that one's up there

446
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 1: because in college you a four years. In high school too,

447
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: like you get a limited amount of years. And the pros.

448
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 1: Do you remember the pros that didn't win championships? We

449
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,199
Speaker 1: can all name him, like the grades that didn't win

450
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 1: a championship, Like there's a whole category. You yeah, problems,

451
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 1: but there's a whole category for that. So you know

452
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 1: I had I was fortunate to be on some of

453
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: those powerhouse teams. UM was a crazy year because Prince

454
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 1: was there and he invited us to party with him.

455
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: Um happen like a private causer for us. I was

456
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 1: one of the like and I have to always preface this.

457
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 1: They went all night. It's really crazy because him and

458
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 1: his band, they literally put on a concert all night.

459
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: They made us leave our phones at the door. They

460
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: allowed us though this is how much they think about

461
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 1: this stuff. They allowed us to have media there to

462
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 1: write articles about it, so that we it wasn't just

463
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 1: a memory that we could know. But no photos, no nothing.

464
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,959
Speaker 1: I was on stage with them. That's there's scenes for that,

465
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 1: Like I I did, like we didn't just play a

466
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: game like we was turned up. Um yeah, like and that.

467
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because as we know, he passed away

468
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 1: the very next year. So when we went in twenty seventeen,

469
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 1: it was different, you know, like they had they had

470
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 1: a band that covered music, Princess music. But it just yeah,

471
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: I just had this feeling like this this it was

472
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 1: a happy moment, but had this somber feeling like thing

473
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: we was just with Prince and you know he's passed

474
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 1: away now, so I would say there's that different emotion. Also,

475
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: got uh traded halfway through the season in so it

476
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: was a crazy year for me. Back in a little bit.

477
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: Winning the national champion at Yukon. You got a chance

478
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: to meet President Obama at the time. What was that experience?

479
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: Like it was motivation, you know, Like my senior year,

480
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: we got to meet President Obama. He had just got

481
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: into office. I remember when it found not that he

482
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: became president. We were at Coach r Amma's house, like

483
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: celebrating turned up that that we had our first black president.

484
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: And then we were like, oh, we need to go

485
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: on and win a championship and meet him. So when

486
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: we won in fifteen, it was the second time he

487
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: knew my because she had won every year since then. Basically,

488
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: so him and Maya were like best things. And it

489
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: was pretty cool because him and coach as well. It's

490
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 1: different when he knows sports, you know, like he was

491
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: into it. He knew who we were, so that was

492
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: a different type of feeling. We played pig with him.

493
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,719
Speaker 1: By the way, he's like, how much time? My god,

494
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 1: He's asking his people how much time? By god. They

495
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: was like, you don't have time, Joe Lefty, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

496
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: it's all right. Like you know that he used to

497
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: be able to play some pick up and stuffing back

498
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: in the day. He had something, but he was he didn't.

499
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: We didn't get to play a whole game. They were

500
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: telling him, you don't have time, and he's like, all right,

501
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: we'll play pig and he made times and we went

502
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: out there. Um actually some photos of me shooting with him.

503
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, we didn't get to finish the game. We

504
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: got a little little Lefty jump. That's cool. So, uh,

505
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, the number four overall pick coming from

506
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: West Virginia going to Yukon. Now you're the fourth pick

507
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: in the w n B A crazy because little me.

508
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: But what's really crazy is it was it was wild

509
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: because everybody was saying I was going anywhere from one

510
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: to ten because again it was that whole I have

511
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: to every stage of my life, I've had to like

512
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: prove myself again. So when it became pros I was

513
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: too small, like that was my my scouting report. They're like, yeah,

514
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: she's good in college, it's a great system and Yukon,

515
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: but how can I yeah, like you know, so it

516
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: went from anywhere I could be one to ten. So

517
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: I was like thinking about sitting in that room, you know,

518
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: like you know when everybody's numbers getting called and you're

519
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: just sitting there. I got invited to the draft. Um

520
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: my parents were there, coach or Emma was there, and

521
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, I had no idea what's gonna happen, like

522
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: and that's a terrifying feeling if anybody's everything, Like that's

523
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: a scary feeling where you don't know where you're gonna go.

524
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: You just want to hear your name. So one past

525
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: that was Atlanta at one Angel mccatrey went there. Um

526
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: number two was Marissa coleman Um and then number three,

527
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: Christie Tolliver, and then it came me and I was

528
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: just like I was relieved, I'm telling you. I was like,

529
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to work because again I saw

530
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: I saw the press clippings. I knew that people didn't

531
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: think I could be successful at that next level. So

532
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: that's that's what I remember about the draft. Two thous

533
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: tenure traded to Connecticut. Yeah, what was that experience like

534
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: starting to learn the business? Yeah? Yeah, and it actually

535
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: was a little bit late. I remember when I got drafted.

536
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: The Connecticut coaching staff they basically like we're coming like

537
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: you know, like they were like, we're coming for you. You

538
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: You belong in Connecticut, and I was like what, yes,

539
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: like let's go. It didn't happen that year, so it

540
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: basically took a season, but I was excited. I mean,

541
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: the four years at Yukon, that's like my family there.

542
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: How far enough to go up? How far from like campus?

543
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: Did you guys play like forty minutes? So not terrible,

544
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: but the crazy part was there was already Ukon players

545
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: like on there, so it was yeah. And then Tina Charles.

546
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: We drafted Tina Charles that year, so it felt like college,

547
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: no class, and I was like, okay, yeah, this is

548
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: this is I didn't really do too much class, but

549
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: I feel you in college, well, we had to handle

550
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: that type of business. So it became like, oh what

551
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: basketball is just the business. And then it was like

552
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: the whole crew. Kleena Green ended up coming up there.

553
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: So I literally had my squad in Connecticut. So yeah,

554
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: we were off to the races for that. What was

555
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: your welcome to the w n B A moment? I

556
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: would say my welcome to the w n B A

557
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: moment was losing a lot my rookie season. That was

558
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: just something that I used to We all experienced that. Yeah,

559
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: you know, it's a shock when you gotta lose and

560
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: you want to be mad at it. You gotta scouting

561
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: report for the next team that could be the next

562
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: day or the day after. I had to really get

563
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: used to that. Like I didn't take losses very well.

564
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: Like I just like in college, we were taught that

565
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: the loss is a big blow, you know, like we

566
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 1: didn't have them very often. And then in the pros

567
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: we weren't very good, Like we just weren't very good

568
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: my my rookie season. And so I just remember being like, Wow,

569
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: did you have that mix? You have the mix of

570
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: people like yourself, I know I'm gonna be here. How

571
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: can we get out of this? You've got people that's

572
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: hanging around and know if they're gonna be on the

573
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: team next then you got some mother fucker's that just

574
00:25:54,320 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: don't care, you know what I'm saying. So it's a

575
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: time let me trying to pull all that together, exactly.

576
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: And so I'm used to winning, so like I understand

577
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: more as you get in the Pros, like I would

578
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: be really upset after a loss and they'd be like,

579
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: chill like you, they would be like exactly. So that

580
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: was my welcome to the w B A moment where

581
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I gotta like you can

582
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: still take hard, but I gotta like handle losses better.

583
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: That's where I really like was like, this is the

584
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: Pros two thousand eleven. You have a career season, voted

585
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: to the All Star team for the first time. What

586
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: was that? Like? That was we were rolling in Connecticut

587
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: and I mean I think we had three players that

588
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: were All Stars that year, like we I can remember

589
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: being excited that I wasn't going by myself. Um, it

590
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: was my first time team in Charles's first time, and

591
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: so this is crazy because it ended up being my

592
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: only time as an All Star. I flew my whole

593
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: family out, I flew I got everybody hotel rooms, and

594
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: I remember saying like, this could be my only one.

595
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: You never know, like the league is unpredictable, you never

596
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. And everybody was like, I don't

597
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: think you should be spending all this money, like you'll

598
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: be back. And it's crazy because that was my only

599
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: All Star. Um. The very next season, my coach and

600
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: the All season came to me and they were like,

601
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: we have no firepower coming off the bench. And I'm like,

602
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: all right, cool, what's that got to do with me?

603
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And then he was like,

604
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: we need you to come off the bench. And I'm like,

605
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 1: I was literally just an All Star last year the

606
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: first like, and so I went from being an All

607
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: Stars starting all the games in coming off the bench. Um.

608
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: And so that was that was a shocker to me

609
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: because I was still young then. UM. And so I

610
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: ended up getting six Woman of the Year kind of

611
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: just kind of just owning it. But it's the pros,

612
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the business of basketball. You start

613
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: to learn it quick talk to us with that experience,

614
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: Like we talked to Lamar on him about that yesterday

615
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: when you interviewed him, like he was a starter, and

616
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: then you know they wanted him to move to the bench.

617
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: The same thing. The first year he moved to the bench,

618
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: he won six Man of the Years. So what was

619
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: that mentally like having a the whole another mindset coming

620
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: off the bench, completely different mindset when I'm when I'm

621
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: starting the game as a point guard, my first instinct

622
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: is the all right, can we say who can I

623
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: set up? Let's get her going, Let's get her going.

624
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: All right. I might have a little shot here and there,

625
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: But when you come off of the bench, they want

626
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: that like instant offense, that instant impact. And so like

627
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: they first had to tell me, like, we need you

628
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: to be more aggressive, like and that that second unit,

629
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: you're probably our first or second option. And so I

630
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: had to be more aggressive in the style that I

631
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: like to play. In a sense, nobody's really gonna be

632
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: mad about having to shoot more. So basically he was like, look,

633
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: the perker coming off the benches, You're gonna get more

634
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: shot and so you had to just I just kind

635
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: of had to own it, you know. I talked to

636
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: my parents because I'm like, this is kind of crazy.

637
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: Like I thought, this is pretty wild that I was

638
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: literally my first All Star. I was excited, and then

639
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: like my whole trajectory changed, and it actually it changed

640
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: my whole career because then everybody started to know that

641
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: I could do both and so probably wanted you to

642
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: be that six man every time. And I mean like

643
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: big teams like I ended up going to Minnesota where

644
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: they didn't even lack nothing, but they wanted that extra

645
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: off the bench, and so it's to be free agency.

646
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: I like, like it made me be a commodity, honestly,

647
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: and so I even told my coach, coach Tebo, I

648
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, like at the time, I

649
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: was not feeling it, but it makes your stock rise.

650
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: Like people saw me different. They saw me as a score,

651
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: they saw me as that impact player off the bench.

652
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: They saw me as a leader of the second unit,

653
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: which people want. And so my young self was not

654
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: feeling it. But as I got older and the contracts

655
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: kept coming and I kept and I kept getting guaranteed contract. Yeah,

656
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: I was like there might be something to this, this versatility.

657
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: So two thousan, you head back to Minnesota and you're

658
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: able to get your first professional championship. Yeah, that was

659
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: a trying year. When I got traded, I was actually

660
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: not even practicing with the team. I was at home

661
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: in bed Um. There was a pig GroEL set our

662
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: apartment complex, and like a dummy, I ate it off

663
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: and I got salmonella poisoning. I didn't even know it

664
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: was salmonella at the time. From yeah, there was like

665
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: an actual pig that they were I know, we're not

666
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: supposed I know, I know, and look so now I

667
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: can't even barely eat. Like I learned my left I

668
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: learned my lesson. I was sick as a dog. And

669
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: so they come to my apartment complex and they're like, yo,

670
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: coach wants to see you. I'm like no, no, they

671
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: know I'm not practicing, like and they're like, no, coach

672
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: wants to see you. So we all know what that means.

673
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on? What's going Yeah, what's going on?

674
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm sick. So I go they love story short. They

675
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: tell me I'm traded the Minnesota coach. Coach read caused

676
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: me and I'm like, Coach, I'm really sick, Like I

677
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: don't know what's wrong, but I'm really sick. I hadn't

678
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: got the test results back. She's like, yeah, I don't care.

679
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: You gotta play in two days. And I'm like, this

680
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: is crazy. My family was there at the time visiting me,

681
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: which ended up being the craziest blessing because I couldn't

682
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: do anything. They packed up my whole apartment, put it

683
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: in my car, ship my car to me, UM, and

684
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: then I was heading to Minnesota, and I was practicing

685
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: and practiced during the daytime and a nighttime. I was

686
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: like like working out trying to get my core together

687
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: because anybody who knows anything about that, like I was wrecked,

688
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: Like my whole stomach was just done, and so I

689
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: didn't have any core strengths. And I was working out

690
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: crazy at night, tired in practice during the day because

691
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm working out at night. UM, and then our starting

692
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: point guard Lindsay Wayalen ends up getting hurt and the

693
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: team needs me for a big role. So I would

694
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: say that was one of my like most memorable championships

695
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: because people didn't know everything I was doing on the

696
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: back end to try to get myself back to where

697
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: they thought I was. They were getting traded for a player,

698
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: but I was like not the player that they were

699
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: expecting at that time. And um, I can remember not

700
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: remembering anything during that first game I played. I had

701
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: an I V before the game and just dugged it out. Tough.

702
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: So sixteen, you guys go from back to back championships, lose,

703
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: seventeen you get your vindication. Yeah, and six team was

704
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: a tough one. We played l A all three years like,

705
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: so it was like everyone knew it was gonna happen.

706
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: And then when they got they we lost on a

707
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: buzzer beater, very controversial, but they won UM and soroversy

708
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: one um, And so yeah, it was about that get back,

709
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: Like that was all we could think about, you know.

710
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: And and if you won a championship, like it's different

711
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: if you've never won, but if you've won and then

712
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: you lose it, there's a different type of one. Like

713
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: you you want it because you know what it feels like.

714
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: And so yeah, we wanted that back. And I knew

715
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: it was my last year on my my contracts, so

716
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: I also knew, like when this is gonna be crazy

717
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: if we can win a championship this year, It'll set

718
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: things up. Yeah, it'll set things up. And so for

719
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: for for me, I was just excited, like I'm like,

720
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: we can. We had the talent um, and so we

721
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: ended up getting that championship, and like I said, it

722
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: was it was fun. It was fun. So eighteen, you

723
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: decided to bring your talents to Atlanta. You signed a

724
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: multi year contract, Like you said, you wanted to come

725
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: play where you lived at for a while. What was

726
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: that experience? Like? That was dope? And and I kind

727
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: of knew what I was getting myself into as far

728
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: as Atlanta was concerned. We didn't have the fan base.

729
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: It's not there. So I went from Minnesota. We're literally

730
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: selling out Target Center where where the Minnesota Links play. Yeah,

731
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves don't even Oh my gosh, So we're selling out,

732
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, we're selling out the arenas, and so I'm

733
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: used to when we run out, there's just white noise,

734
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: like just the crowd is going crazy. And so in Atlanta,

735
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: we were running out to ourselves going crazy. We're run

736
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: out to us climbing for each other, and uh, because

737
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: we were had to be our own hype man. And

738
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: we you know, as we started, it was crazy because everybody,

739
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: remember I told you when I said I was signing here,

740
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, you're right, sis, Like what's good? And then

741
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: we ended up being the number two team that year,

742
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: and so everybody was like, oh you all right since

743
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: like um and we were rolling. So we went into

744
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs the number two team, and as the season started,

745
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: we saw more and more fans kind of join in,

746
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: and in the playoffs we actually had a little crowd.

747
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: They're a little thump to it. So yeah, so we

748
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: um Angel mccatry end up getting hurt that year. I

749
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: really think we had a we we were terrible to

750
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: first half and we lost two games. The whole second half,

751
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: like we were just rolling. Injuries got us and that

752
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: was about it. Yeah, you never really shied away from

753
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: the big shot you had clutched in your d n A.

754
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: Is there one moment that stands out? Yeah, that that

755
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: l A game. Um, we were playing against l A.

756
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: We were both twelve and oh thirteen and O was

757
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: like a record, um that no team had ever done.

758
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: And of course we were playing l A for that

759
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: thirteenth win. That's just how things work out, and it

760
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: was really crazy because I think my mom was getting

761
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: cramps or wasn't foul trouble fouled out, I don't remember,

762
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: but she wasn't available. That would have typically been who

763
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: shot our last shot, but so since she wasn't available,

764
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: coach was like, all right, Renee, um, yeah, you're in,

765
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: and I'm like, let's let's get it. Like you know,

766
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: so dude, you know when they tell you're in, you're

767
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: like looking at the clipbore real hard, making sure you

768
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: don't mess your stuff up. She drip a play for me,

769
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: which is really crazy. Our point guard Lindsay Wayland was

770
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: in the game. Um, gotta in bounce past jove. The

771
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: baseline had a backscreen coming for me. I can literally

772
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: remember that. There was like people on the sidelines. It

773
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: was in l a. They were like reaching out to me,

774
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: trying to like distract me. Um. I remember that just

775
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: because it was like all the hype involved. Was like

776
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: I told you, we played them every year in the

777
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: in the finals, and so just to have that game

778
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: winner against them and he didn't. Was the baseline drive

779
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: baseline drift screen, Yeah, that's yeah, game for the game.

780
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: So we got one of those same plays in our

781
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: history the same time I made it. No, I passed

782
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: you pass it to me? Oh did you? Yes? You

783
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: made you know you didn't go base so you went

784
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: down the middle of member of Bedris set the screen. Yeah, uh,

785
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: June sid a tweet that were kind of shape. You're

786
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: directed to the trajector the world of your you know,

787
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: your career and and kind of find your your life

788
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: after basketball path. Although at the time you made not

789
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: have known, but you know, you decided to set the

790
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: season out to focused on social justice. Your former your

791
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: former college teammate and and and proteinmate did the same thing.

792
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: What was behind that thinking a lot? You know, I

793
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: had seen what's going on Atlanta. I told you we

794
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: were right in the thick of things. There were protests

795
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: going on everywhere. It was on the news. So I

796
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: would look out my window. Yeah, Like I would look

797
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: out my window. I could literally see the protests happening.

798
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: And then I would look on the TV screen and

799
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: be like, dang, like Atlanta is really like So for me,

800
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: I was like I need to be a part of this,

801
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: like I feel it like And I would talk to

802
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: my my parents and my mom was actually in Detroit

803
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: during the Detroit riots, and so she was telling me

804
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: like maybe I think this one feels different. And I'm

805
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: like why, you know what, I'm asking all kinds of question,

806
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: like why is this one different? And she's like, look

807
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: at the crowd. You know when we did our thing,

808
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: it was all minorities, like all black people. Right now

809
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: we see yeah, And so she kept telling me like

810
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: I think this one is different. I'm like, yo, I

811
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: need to be a part of this movement, like let's

812
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: how do we pour gasoline on it? And so I

813
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: was thinking, and I'm like, can I imagine myself in

814
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: the bubble? Like That's kind of what I had to

815
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: to to think about because we knew that's where it

816
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: was going, and I just didn't see it, like I like,

817
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: I really kept on And this wasn't like people think

818
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: I woke up and sent the tweet, Like didn't happen

819
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: like that, Like I knew. I was debating it for

820
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: like two weeks, you know. I was trying to think

821
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: about the pros, the cons, am I gonna quit my job.

822
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't even have a job, you know, Like I'm

823
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: thinking about all those different things. But every time something

824
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: else would happen or someone else would would would get murdered.

825
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, this ain't it? Like to me, it

826
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: was like this just saying it, and so yeah, like

827
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: I really just felt like like my heart would have

828
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: been in it. And so everything I've told you all

829
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: it's been about proven and myself and it's all about

830
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: passion for me, and so my heart wasn't gonna be

831
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: in at that season, and I don't want to do

832
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: that to my teammates, my coaches. So I just made

833
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: the decision, like to follow where my heart was taking me.

834
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: It's it's just something in you that that's different, you

835
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. A lot of people to stand

836
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: up for people that you don't even know, I stand

837
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: up for the rights of others and all that. It

838
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: says a lot about you to put yourself on the

839
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: line for other people that you don't even know. And

840
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't have the curse to do that,

841
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So for you, the stage

842
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: you were in, the person you are in to position

843
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: you in, for you to stand like that, like I

844
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: told you on your show, that meant the world to me,

845
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because a lot of people don't.

846
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: A lot of people have the platforms and have the

847
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: position to say things for the for the betterment of

848
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: all of us, but they don't do it, you know

849
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: what I mean. And with with everything you have to

850
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: lose for you to do that, with so many of

851
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: your sisters in the same position, it just meant the

852
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: world to see for me, So I appreciated that. I

853
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: appreciate that, And you know, for me, what was interesting

854
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: about that was I didn't know where it was gonna

855
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: take me, you know what I mean. Like a lot

856
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: of people think I had a plan, like I really yeah,

857
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: Like I really didn't have a plan. So that's why

858
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: even sitting here in the ownership and like in June,

859
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: I was like thinking, all right, do I'm not about

860
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: to have the drive uber? Like I didn't know, Like

861
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: I really didn't know because I was already calling games.

862
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: I was scheduled to call the women's in C double A,

863
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: the G League Championship. But everything I can, so it

864
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: was like all my revenue, all my income was connected

865
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: to sports, and sports like just got canceled. So I

866
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: was like weighing that heavy. I have my family and

867
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: so I'm like this decision wasn't just about me, and

868
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: so you know, thank you for coming on the show,

869
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: because I felt connected to two people like you all

870
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: that are just you know, that fabric like you can

871
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: just you can just feel it when when somebody's doing

872
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: something for the papers or somebody's really doing it. So

873
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure people knew it wasn't This

874
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: wasn't for this is not for Cloud, this isn't even Cloud.

875
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know if I was like canceled, because

876
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: if y'all can remember that Kyrie call, I was on

877
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: that Kyrie call and elaked and people were really mad

878
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: basically to hear that Kyrie was talking about opting out basically,

879
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: and so I already knew what people felt about players

880
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: that opted out. So I was even debating on that tweet,

881
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: should I tell people why I'm offing out like I thought,

882
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: because you could just say, hey, I'm opting out for

883
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: personal reasons, like I debated that, but then I was

884
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: like nah, like yeah, like I just wanted people to

885
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: know I'll ever think go ahead. I was. I was

886
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: on the phone with him, you know, like every day

887
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: for three weeks up until that, you know what I mean.

888
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: We talked a lot, and I knew where his head

889
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: was but a lot of people don't understand how could

890
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: you worry about playing the game when you're seeing your

891
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: people dying exactly, when you're seeing people getting killed for

892
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: no reason, A game is not that si bigger and

893
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: it starts to be bigger than that where you think,

894
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: like basketball, like I don't even like you almost feel

895
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: like you don't even have time for that now because

896
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: there's like there's something real going on right now. And Kyrie,

897
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: you can see that he got it, and that's kind

898
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: of how I even gravitated towards and I'm like, he

899
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: really gets it. And now people start to see because

900
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: he's giving out scholarships, he paid some of our salaries

901
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: um for the women that opted out in the w

902
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: b A, he paid George Floor baby Mama house, like

903
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: people like he not just talking about it, and so

904
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: that's why I'm talking about like some people like they

905
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: just say it because it sounds nice, it's a sound bite,

906
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: and there's some people that's really about that life and

907
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: he really is obviously not going into the bubble where

908
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: you're still proud of your sisters and what they were

909
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: able to accomplish with their message. And and that's the

910
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: thing A lot of people thought that, like when I

911
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: opted out, I wanted everybody to opt out with me.

912
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, this is what I'm doing,

913
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: Like this was what like I do. I'm glad that

914
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: there was a w n b A season because look

915
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: what happened. Like look what the w n b A. Yeah,

916
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: the w n b A used this season too. These

917
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: are things we are already passionate about. But we leaned

918
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: into it, like if people don't know the w b

919
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: A and seen with Minnesota, we already wore shirts and

920
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: said change starts with us. Because in Minnesota, Fialandocs still

921
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: had been murdered by the police at that time, so

922
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: this wasn't new to to any of us in the

923
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: w n b A. It was kind of like we

924
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: were kind of like oh no, no, no, like enough

925
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: is enough to your point, And so, like I said,

926
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: we had a pipeline. I felt very connected to the

927
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: players in the in the Wobble, and I think they

928
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: felt connected to me. Um even Birdie reached out to

929
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: me one time. I was like, hey, you know we're

930
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: um vetting uh, Senator war Knock. We have a council

931
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: that's helping us and I'm like, oh, let me, let

932
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: me hear about this, and then I started to hear

933
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: the stacey like some big names were on the council.

934
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: So people think that the players just printed the shirts

935
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: and put them one And was like, yeah, this is

936
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: how we know. Like there was real processes done. They

937
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: were vetting people, they were thinking this out, and so

938
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: for me, yeah, we we were we were united, and

939
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: I wanted people to just felt like I wasn't calling

940
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: people like, yo, you opted out with me. I think

941
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: people want to be like thought I was doing that,

942
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: not like everybody had opted out. That's what they had

943
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: in their hearts. You guys, well, I mean I said

944
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: this when when all of it happened on when I

945
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: was doing ESPN. But you guys have been fighting for

946
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: equal footing, particularly just as women in sports, you know

947
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. So when other issues come along, when

948
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: it stands for equality, it makes all the sense in

949
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: the world where you guys are so unified when it

950
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: comes out, because this is not a new fight to

951
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: you guys, Like you said, you've been fighting the good fight,

952
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: which was you know, police brutality. But you guys have

953
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: been fighting since you started dribbling a basketball about equal

954
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: footing and and respecting the space. So that's why it

955
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: wasn't surprising to me. And like I said, I think

956
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: the NBA took a note from you guys because you

957
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: guys were on your ship instantly together. Whether you're in

958
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: the bubble or not, you guys were together. And I

959
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: think that's you know that that showed. And now he

960
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: and I went back and forth on like Jack bitch

961
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: and because he didn't think people should play, I thought

962
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: they should play, and I thought they should play. Because

963
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: our voices travel like you're gonna hear Lebron and you'll

964
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: probably hear CP, but do you hear the guys that

965
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: aren't those top tier superstars without the NBA logo behind them,

966
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: with the NBA logo behind them, with the w NBA

967
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: logo behind your female counterparts. Our voices travel around the world,

968
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's about both my

969
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: point from that and to that point, like I see

970
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: both sides because I see what Stack is saying to like,

971
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: imagine if there's no W n B A and everybody

972
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: has to answer to why, I mean, you know, and

973
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: then it happened, you know, And I thought I talked

974
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: about it, I said, Okay, so the NBA stopped because

975
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: of COVID the first time, the second time, the NBA

976
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: and WNBA's office for racism, Like who would have ever? Like?

977
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: Is that? That's that's wild to think about. When you

978
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: think about people don't really realize how much of a

979
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: business sports are. I think people have a hard time understanding,

980
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 1: like sports is strictly a business. I know you guys

981
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: see it as a game. But for a big business,

982
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: big corp to shut down because of racism, that's not

983
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: like like, that's not and they really didn't want it.

984
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: But the players made it, you know what I mean.

985
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: The players made that ship happen because you know, I,

986
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: like you said, this is big business, big money, Like

987
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: that's the last thing they want to see. But they

988
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: got a respect to be TV contract. You don't play

989
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: that game. There's somebody that's supposed to be getting paid

990
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: for you plant Like, there's so many things that the

991
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: NBA is a business and the w b A it's

992
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: a business. So I think that they took that and

993
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: they made these businesses have to focus on social justice.

994
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: So that's my only reason for liking that they had

995
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: to play because when the players weren't going to play again.

996
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: What the NBA have to do? They were calling the owners.

997
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: They said the owners got to get on board. They

998
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: were making they forced the NBA's head and because they

999
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: needed them to come back. So I really do see

1000
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: both sides in a sense of like you have to change.

1001
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: It is a business. But the business we know needs

1002
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: to change, Like we all know that from the ownership

1003
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: group on like we we don't. I don't understand why

1004
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: there's not representation and ownership group. Even in the NFL.

1005
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: They have to make a rule, the Runy rule, to

1006
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: try to get people. The fact that they have to

1007
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: make the it tells you how crazy that is. People.

1008
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: There's a rule for it. Why should there be a

1009
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: rule for you to give equal opportunity to business to

1010
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: work for them but not work with them. They hire

1011
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: people look like I can't play, but you can't own

1012
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: not a day, So what to me? You know? I mean,

1013
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: I think they obviously they hire people who look like them.

1014
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: Left it's so important for her to be in an

1015
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: ownership position now because you hire people who like you

1016
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: would start at the top of its management and then

1017
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: it works its way down. It's not what you know

1018
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: is who you know. And so if who you know

1019
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: is who you know, you don't know us, well like

1020
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: that you're not gonna hire. You're gonna hire somebody you're

1021
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: comfortable with. And so you already know that's what we're

1022
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: doing here in Atlanta, Like that's our focus like day

1023
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: one now, the people we hire small business, minority owned business,

1024
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: like that's literally our whole focus and love it. So

1025
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: you were a big part of more than a vote,

1026
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: um all the way through the runoff with you know,

1027
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Senator Warnock or uh what you spoke on. How important

1028
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: was that to you? Big time? Um, It's crazy because

1029
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: I know people have to be tired because we were

1030
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: banging the drums since I can remember um in June

1031
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: where I threw a June Team pop up block party

1032
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: at Centennial And I'm like, man, people are really turned

1033
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: right now, but November is far away, Like I just

1034
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: kept on remember like thank November so far away, Like yeah,

1035
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: like I I so I started to create a campaign

1036
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: called Remember the Third and November because like we're passionate

1037
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: right now, but I hope people understand, like you gotta

1038
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: take that passion to the polls, like you gotta fight

1039
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: people at their own ground, like we can be mad

1040
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: and do stuff in protests, but you gotta go to

1041
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: the polls. So I remember thinking like circling the calendar

1042
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: November three, and then we had to run off, and

1043
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness, we gotta go at

1044
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: it again, like you gotta rub the engines up. So

1045
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I remember, just being like, look,

1046
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: I know you're probably tired of it. I know, like

1047
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: no one wanted this, but we got to just time,

1048
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: because I don't think people even knew that you gotta

1049
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: go back, you know. I think people like, no, no,

1050
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: already voted for that, like so just kicking my vote again,

1051
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: still coming and and that's the engagement we don't really understand.

1052
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: But what was it, Like, I mean, you guys had

1053
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: a big hand in flipping a state. That's wild. I'm saying, yeah,

1054
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: it's wild. And even as it was happening, you know,

1055
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: like I was doing stuff with Stacey Atrams at that time,

1056
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: SI's for culture, and I'm like, this is really crazy,

1057
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: like I told you, and you you guys know, when

1058
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: you're in the thicker things, it's kind of hard to

1059
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: see it from like the bird's view. So I was

1060
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: just in it, like they was hitting me up like yo,

1061
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 1: we're trying to do this, and I'm like I'm down,

1062
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: like what's up. So it was kind of just like

1063
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: that type of situation. And then as we watched on

1064
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: the news unfold, like we're watching national news unfold and

1065
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: it's looking like we might pull this off in I'm

1066
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: telling you, it's it's something that like probably after a while,

1067
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: like it'll sink in. But I don't even think we

1068
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: like we knew the magnitude of what we were doing.

1069
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: But when people started to tell us that Senator Warnock

1070
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: was like pulling in the single digits before you know,

1071
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: we started a campaign for him, that's pretty crazy to

1072
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: see what happened. So yeah, um, life off the court

1073
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: has been going amazing. You announced your retirement in February.

1074
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Are you at peace with that? Yeah? Um. When I

1075
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: announced my retirement, I knew that you couldn't be a

1076
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: player and owner, so people didn't know that at the time,

1077
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: but I had to get you know, my affairs in order.

1078
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: So I was very comfortable within a sense of I

1079
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: don't feel like I left anything out there, you know.

1080
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: I felt like, obviously I would have loved to play

1081
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: like one last season and have that you know, that

1082
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: farewell season. But to me, like the way I played,

1083
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: the way I prepared, I really did feel like I

1084
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: gave like everything I had, and so I didn't feel

1085
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: like I left anything out there. And then I thought

1086
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: about the bigger picture. I'm like, for me to be

1087
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: an owner and to be able to be the voice

1088
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: of the players, like the players, I know problems that

1089
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: we have right now here. That just was driving me.

1090
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, we gotta make this happen. How can

1091
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: we make this happen? And I'm telling you my family,

1092
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: they were my family. My fiance just were back at me.

1093
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: They were my battery packet because sometimes I just like

1094
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: I got discouraged, like real talk, because I'm like, I

1095
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: don't know how I'm gonna get to this seat at

1096
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: the table. It felt so far away, and I was

1097
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: trying to reach out to people, but I'm trying to

1098
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: do it on the low because I'm still playing. And

1099
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: I just didn't like sometimes I got discouraged. But my family,

1100
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: now you're gonna be this owner, you know, like they

1101
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: were really like sometimes they was on my head, like Nana,

1102
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: this is for you because sometimes I'll just be like,

1103
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: all right, we'll find a different way. Like maybe I

1104
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: could be in the front office and I would change

1105
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: the the way. Um, But my family like they knew it,

1106
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: like they saw it for me before I did. And

1107
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: so that's what I think about the most with that,

1108
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: because there were times, like I told that Stred in

1109
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: October when people people don't know the long process of

1110
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: that took. So there was times where I'm like, oh man,

1111
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: it's Christmas. Let's just like let me enjoy Christmas instead

1112
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: of trying to plot and playing and figure out. But

1113
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I did you know? That was a long,

1114
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: a long journey, but like we're here, I'm so thankful

1115
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: you just stated that we talked about you don't really

1116
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: what's going to understand the magnitude of what you're doing

1117
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: while you're in the mix. But have you taken a

1118
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: step back and like fed like Renee from West Virginia

1119
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: as an owner of a professional sports team, have you

1120
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: have you have you had a chance to kind of

1121
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: do that yet us And I'm about to go back

1122
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: to West Virginia for my sister's wedding um next week.

1123
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: I think that's when it will really, you know, like

1124
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: when you get back to like humble beginnings, because right now,

1125
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: I've been so busy ever since it like ever since

1126
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: it happened, like I have been really busy, and you yeah,

1127
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: I think so, so like once I can ever get

1128
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: some time like because right now I'm covering March madness,

1129
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, like it's like I don't have to worry

1130
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: about a job anymore. And that's a blessing because at

1131
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: a certain point I really was was worried. Yeah, I

1132
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: was really worried. And so now I think like two

1133
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: stacks point, once I get that time that VACA is

1134
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: coming in June, once I get that to just kind

1135
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: of just like be like what does that happening around it?

1136
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: Just go hitch yeah, like damn some joint. Look now, um,

1137
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: you mentioned you're covering March madness. You did some broadcasting

1138
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: early in your career. Obviously you're great, you know, relaying

1139
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: your your opinions and thoughts. When did broadcasting jump into

1140
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: the picture for you? I'm going to school for it,

1141
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: so you know, I went to UA. I was a

1142
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: communications major. You know, sometimes you pick a major just

1143
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: because like let me just give me anything, Like I

1144
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: had teammates and did that. Well, I'm the daughter of

1145
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: a college professor. So yeah, I was in the baclaurette

1146
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: program in high school, like I had to be like

1147
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: all of those honors things. So I went into college

1148
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: like game. I was actually gunning for two majors actually,

1149
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: and I finished. I had ended up with a minor,

1150
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: but I knew it, like I kind of am a planner,

1151
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 1: Like I planned. I planned. Yeah, I'm planned my whole

1152
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: wife out really, Like even when I was young. I

1153
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: told you I was in West Virginia dribbling on the

1154
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: pavement when you have concrete, and I'm like, I'm gonna

1155
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: go D one. Even when I was young, Um, there

1156
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: weren't even a w NBA until I was eleven, So

1157
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: I was just thinking D one and I've just been

1158
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: I've been planning every since honestly. But yeah, at Yukon,

1159
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: that was that was the plan. So just announcing the

1160
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: podcasts talk or Takeline. Excuse me, Um, how did that

1161
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: come about? Yeah, they reached out to me. Um I did. Uh,

1162
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I got multiple jobs from interviews like that.

1163
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: I did with a plan for him. So I didn't

1164
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: interview with TMZ Sports, like they wanted to talk about

1165
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: me off and out, and then they offered me a

1166
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: job to co host TMZ Sports. Um. Then I did

1167
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: an interview with pod Save America and it's when the

1168
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: cook crooked like network and so then that's how they

1169
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: saw me on that, and they reached out to my

1170
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: manager and was like, hey, I think we you know,

1171
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: we want to do sports and culture where they meet basically,

1172
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I mean that's my whole life. Yeah,

1173
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: that's my whole life. Um. And they were just like

1174
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: breaking it down Jason conceptsi and as the host they need.

1175
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: They they're looking for a co host. Um. Did a

1176
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: couple you know, interviews, and then they called me like okay,

1177
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: so we want to roll with you. What's next? And

1178
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: that was dope because like, as you all know, y'all

1179
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: vote are on my podcast remotely Renee, and so I

1180
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: didn't know how that worked. I'm like, can I do

1181
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: to Like I didn't. I don't really know how all

1182
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: that works. UM, So I let them know and they

1183
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: were cool with it. My podcast is a little different

1184
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: than that, So I mean that's been really cool because

1185
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: the topics that you know, y'all vote done TV. The

1186
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: topics that the TV tells you to stay away from.

1187
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: That's what we talked about. Goddamn right, that's what we

1188
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: talk about. So that's it's dope for me, you guys.

1189
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: First guest was Jeremy Lyndon. Obviously we're in a weird

1190
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: place right now where Asian hate crimes are are are

1191
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: popping up every day. Um, how was it talking to him?

1192
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Jack and I both know him, Uh, great

1193
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: do very very well spoken, um and really kind of

1194
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: a fixture for that community. So how was it talking

1195
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: to him and kind of hearing his point of point

1196
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: of view? It was different because you know, we're used

1197
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: to being oppressed, you know what I mean. Everybody understands

1198
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: our history. They understand why we're mad. Some people do,

1199
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: some people don't. But people understand, they get it. But

1200
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to Asian hate, I feel like they

1201
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: have to almost explain to people why they're mad and

1202
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: then allowed to be mad. And I think that's the

1203
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: struggle that you know, a lot of the Asian community

1204
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: hasn't even here in Atlanta where we just had that shooting,

1205
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: Like it's unbelievable because we can relate, you know, like

1206
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: as far as minorities are Gonnacern, we know what it's

1207
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: like for somebody to not like you but hate you.

1208
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: Like that's a wild concept, to not know somebody at

1209
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: all but you hate them. And so I think that

1210
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: you know, that's being experienced for different cultures right now,

1211
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: and it needs to be almost a point where minorities

1212
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: now they're starting to see we have the same problem. Yes,

1213
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: so we think I think a lot of people thought

1214
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: that this was a black problem, you know, like a

1215
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: lot of people really thought this is a black problem.

1216
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: This is a black community, black and brown community problem

1217
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: the most. But it's all it's all moneyority exactly. And

1218
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: I think that's starting to be seen more. I think

1219
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: the the Asian community is starting to gravitate two allies

1220
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: and they know that we're an allied because we get it.

1221
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: And so I think just talking to him and even him,

1222
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean as people know, like he was called I

1223
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: believe coronavirus on the court. I mean that's athletes, you know, Like,

1224
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: so that's crazy because I never had a teammate or

1225
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: someone like say something crazy to me on the court.

1226
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: I don't know how I would handle that, Like, I

1227
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: don't I don't really know, like I've never experienced that.

1228
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: So he even experienced that, and the way he handled

1229
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: it was great, you know what I mean. Like I said,

1230
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: he wanted he didn't want to get to them and

1231
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: troub We didn't want to call him now. He wanted

1232
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: to sit down and educate them. It's big, it's a

1233
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 1: big person. Amazing, he's a he's a good guy. Because

1234
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: I just don't know how I would handle that if

1235
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: somebody said something wild to me like that on the court. Um.

1236
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: And so I think they just understand that, you know,

1237
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: the communities are allies now, like let's be allies and educate.

1238
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: Right when you said it's not just our problem. That

1239
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: was the one thing he spoke about when he was

1240
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: doing the marches because he's like, mad, I've seen every

1241
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: single color out there and struggling to you know what

1242
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's not just a black problem around problem,

1243
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: it's a minority problem. The way the system is set up,

1244
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: and there's there's about to say it's a white problem.

1245
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: Is it's because there's a lot of people that didn't

1246
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: realize it was a problem. That's a problem. If you

1247
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: didn't if you didn't know there was a problem. That's

1248
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: the problem because it's all around us. It's all around us,

1249
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: and so that's even going back to the n C

1250
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: double a thing. People have to see it, like they

1251
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: need to see it. So when they saw the video

1252
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: of George Floyd, I think that's the first time some

1253
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: people really got it, Like they still wanted to some

1254
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: people still wanted to deny it and he should have

1255
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: did this and he was doing that and drug and

1256
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm just like, no, did you watch the nine minutes

1257
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: or did you transt forward through it? I haven't, But

1258
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: I think that was very eye opening for people because

1259
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: they're like, wow, how could somebody do that? And for us,

1260
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: we're like, you know, we know that's happened plenty of

1261
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: times before, basically, and so like I told you in

1262
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: six team, we were talking about this, you know, and

1263
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: it's Minnesota, so it's not even the first instance for them.

1264
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: And so when people start to realize that, and then

1265
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: they start to go down that rabbit hole, when they

1266
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: start to that's that rabbit hole where they start to

1267
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 1: you start to educate people on stuff, and they don't

1268
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: want to believe it, so they go to Google and

1269
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: then they're like yeah, and then you start to see

1270
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: that eye opening. That's what happened a lot in I think.

1271
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 1: And so I mean, I don't mind if you don't

1272
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: like it's it's one thing to not know, but if

1273
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: you know better, do better. Yeah, who are your top

1274
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: five is? Go to another conversation. Give me away from

1275
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: that because you know I'm to be Macael x Ron

1276
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: his mother. All right? Who your top players in the

1277
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: w B right now? Oh my gosh, y'all really that's tough, um,

1278
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: and we're talking about in their prom because right now,

1279
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: just period. I mean, I'm gonna have to go shoot

1280
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: the Yukon Special. Uh, can't go wrong, y'all. Can get

1281
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: your whole team that played the w b A and

1282
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: win some w b A game. That would be let

1283
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm going with Diana Tarassi, Um, Tina Charles to Bird.

1284
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I got it roll with my dogs.

1285
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: But and that's a fact. Like people argued, if you want, um,

1286
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: who else, Brianna Stewart, that's cheat. I'm just saying that

1287
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the the UKN Special. And that's what

1288
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: I said, argued, if you want to, Um, no, I'm

1289
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: not in the league. She's an owner number. You forgot.

1290
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: I forgot that now. But I know the men always

1291
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: put themselves on the team. I would I wouldn't even

1292
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: do that. Nice. Um let's see who are we gonna go?

1293
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: And we got a point guard, shooting guard and Diana

1294
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: still we'll put her at the four t ts. She

1295
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: had to be. Oh, let's go with Sylvia fause I'm

1296
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: about to say that she's mean she down as the greatest.

1297
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: She's gonna go down as the greatest. And like I said,

1298
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: I was going to do a U CON special, but

1299
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: that's my pud and so and she's I mean, if

1300
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: we're talking five, she's like the most gitle giant killer

1301
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: you have. You talk to her, you don't know what

1302
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: she's about to do to you. But yeah, that's that's crazy. Yeah,

1303
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: um w n b A is about to celebrate twenty

1304
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: five years. Tell us about the progression you like and

1305
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: what more you feel needs to happen. I like that,

1306
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: So let me just tell you a progression ten where

1307
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: the shirt change starts with us. Um, we even put

1308
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: a police shoot on there. That's crazy because we wanted

1309
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: people to understand. We got fined for that and they

1310
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: told us. If you want to keep wearing that shirt,

1311
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep getting fine. So basically, the w n

1312
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: b A was not rolling in sixteen. And again, this

1313
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: is the summer before Colin Kaepernick took a knee, So

1314
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: this was unheard of for people to do what we

1315
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: had done, and the w n b A was just,

1316
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: I mean to give them to a defense. This had

1317
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: never been seen before, for we just rocked up with

1318
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: shirts we made and wore for warm ups, and so

1319
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: they weren't feeling it. They were not with it, and

1320
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: they basically and then other teams joined in and started

1321
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: to wear just black shirts and it became like a

1322
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: little movement and the w n b A was not

1323
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: with that movement. And so then when you fast forward

1324
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: to we dedicated our whole season of social justice. If

1325
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: you're on the Taylor on the back of our jerseys,

1326
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying we're moving in the right way. Uh,

1327
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: they're start They're now starting to listen in a sense

1328
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: of like we're gonna do this regardless, like they kind

1329
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: of And I think that's the thing about the women's players.

1330
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: We have this like it's gonna happen. So what's your

1331
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: stance on this. That's gonna be on you. But this

1332
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do. And they just really like

1333
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: they kind of leaned into it. I mean for them

1334
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: to put Brianna Taylor on the back of all of

1335
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: our jerseys, that's pretty big. We did a say her

1336
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: Name campaign every week where we we talked about it.

1337
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: You know, they they the national anthem. You know, there

1338
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: was just different things that we were allowed to do

1339
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: and I stay allowed to do because they could have

1340
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: find us. But they leaned into it. So the year

1341
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: twenty five, it's looking good. Um, I think that they

1342
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: they get it. You know, the hashtag is counted. I

1343
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: think give me the lion. But they even um, they

1344
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: had the legends coming back. They're owed to the people

1345
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 1: before us, and I'm big about that. Like I feel

1346
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: like I'm old school in a sense of like the

1347
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: o gs and the o gs like, let's like always

1348
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: put them on a pedestal. So it looks like the

1349
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: w NBA is gonna do that this year. It's good.

1350
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: We had Sheryl Swoops on and she said that was

1351
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: one of the things that bothered her so much. Happy Birthday,

1352
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: How do your birthday too? The legend. Um. I love her,

1353
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, and that's the thing, like we should we

1354
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: should honor our o g is way more than I

1355
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: think what we've done. And so even in the new promo,

1356
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: the advertisement, Lisa Leslie was narrating it, so you know

1357
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. They're on the right way, they're in

1358
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: the right direction. But yeah, she come on, now, that's

1359
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: not even her. That's cool. But hey, give me your

1360
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: thoughts on the current Hark squad and what they need

1361
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: to win a game or two. Excuse me, we were

1362
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: on an eight game road streight, let's be clear, the

1363
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: temperature a little bit straight. We want eighth straight. And

1364
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: then last night we lost to the Clippers. We were

1365
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: actually up by like money, we're at like twenty and

1366
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: ended up losing to the Clips. I think everybody knows

1367
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: we got that new point is that we can make

1368
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: some noise, but we're not consistent, and so I think

1369
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: that's why you remember us losing. We just want eight,

1370
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: but everybody remembers us losing because we just haven't been consistent.

1371
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: But it's been fun covering them. Trey Young, I think

1372
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: that snub was the best thing that could have happened

1373
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 1: to us. You know, like he got snub this year,

1374
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: the only player in the top ten scoring that didn't

1375
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: make All Star. I mean, it was just wild, but

1376
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: it was just the record. I think so. But if

1377
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: the records matter, then we should check a lot of

1378
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: all I mean, what is the criteria then, But the

1379
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: only reason that knicks, the only reason around the made

1380
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: it because they was tied for ford for at the time.

1381
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: But that's just that's this year. There's been a lot

1382
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: of play, Like I never know what the criteria is

1383
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: for m v P. For all starts, they feel people

1384
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: who never played basketball, we have to say something. Hello somebody.

1385
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: Don't let me start hello somebody. Um, since we're in

1386
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: the NBA season, favorite player to watch I don't play. Yeah,

1387
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: if you guys ain't playing, I ain't really watching, you

1388
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But well, I would just go

1389
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: with Trey just because I get to watch him night

1390
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: and Ninity. I mean, he's flashy, so it's not even

1391
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: like I'm just picking him because he's the Hogs. Like,

1392
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't wow stuff in the game I've been in

1393
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. He's about far the Besides, Joe

1394
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: was cool, but he's the most exciting player to watch

1395
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: since I've been living in Atlanta. Yeah, definitely, definitely. I

1396
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: mean it's just like what Steph Curry brings to the

1397
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: game that made change the whole game. Like they're shooting

1398
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: from the logo and that's a good shot, Like you know,

1399
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: like it's like you don't even be like, hey, that's

1400
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: a terrible shot. Like when Trey shoot said, I'm like, oh,

1401
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry, Yeah, that's you have a finals prediction,

1402
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: finals prediction. Man injury, that's the thing. Like it's tough

1403
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: because I mean, we all would assume that the Lakers

1404
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: would find a way to be in the finals if

1405
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: they're healthy, but now you know, first a d and

1406
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: then Lebron. I don't know, I can't nervous trusting teams

1407
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: that play well in the regular season because we've seen

1408
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: a seventies sixers every year. We think that they're gonna

1409
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: be every year they look I mean, Joel Embid. People

1410
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: are talking about em for m VP. I know, but

1411
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: if you're talking about m VP color per person and

1412
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: if you have the team, why is the postseason always

1413
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: such a struggle? You know? Like so for me, I'm

1414
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: trying to think, like who are some some dogs in

1415
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: the league. That's there's a difference. So there's a difference

1416
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: that Portland's team is always interesting. I feel like when

1417
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: you got a player like Damian Lillard, who it don't

1418
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: matter who he's mashed up against, like, hes gonna show up.

1419
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be in the finals, but

1420
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be somebody to watch. Just the

1421
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: West is so tough, but I don't really have a prediction.

1422
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: And what does that say about Brooklyn? They're best players

1423
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: hurt and people still got them going to the finals.

1424
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: That's how good they are. And you know what, I

1425
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: gotta see it too, Like I gotta leave it, you

1426
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: believe I gotta see it. Because we talked about playoffs again.

1427
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen we're talking about playoffs with KDD,

1428
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: Kyrie and James though okay, yes, but we're talking about

1429
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: playoffs and we're talking about injuries as well, and so

1430
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: a couple of those players. Like that's why I said

1431
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: injuries aside. If we're talking everybody has their dogs, I'm

1432
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: gonna say Brooklyn in l A in the finals. If

1433
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: everybody is playing and everybody's healthy, I just don't know.

1434
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: If that's going to be the case. Recently, Shock had

1435
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: a comment that the hoop should be lowered. Didn't take

1436
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: too well to it to say, Shock, no thoughts about it.

1437
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: I think that's so wild. Um like should Josh should

1438
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: yo s be raised? There's too many people dunking. I mean,

1439
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, like is it like is it too easy?

1440
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: Matter to me? Right now? I'm slapping that, So yeah,

1441
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm a touching that too. But what I will say

1442
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: in y'all defense, I'll take some women on some of

1443
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: my NBA teams before some of the Sorry motherfucker's you

1444
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: have a lot of them men didn't belong in the NBA.

1445
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: They didn't care then no way, So I would have

1446
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: took a lot of y'all wait before some of the teammates.

1447
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we don't need to change the game

1448
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: that Nate Smith created. That is so silly, just because

1449
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: and I mean, if you ask people why to change

1450
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: the game, it's literally one reason for dunking, you know,

1451
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: like it's not because women don't shoot well enough from

1452
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: the three maybe the rooms. It's always just dunking. And

1453
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: so if that's like and I know that's what the

1454
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: NBA prize them now, I know, but people, this is

1455
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: casual fans talking. This is casual fans talking because they

1456
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: don't know that I mean, Katus Parker was dunking and

1457
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: as certain you know what I mean. So people are

1458
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: only basing that on dunking. And so if you're doing that,

1459
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: then you're not really taking into account what the women's

1460
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,959
Speaker 1: game is good at anyway, you know, like we play

1461
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: actual fundamental basketball, not saying the men don't, but we're

1462
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: not even allowed to travel. So think about that. We

1463
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: have to pivot, we have to take only two steps.

1464
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: That's different, you know. And so I think that if

1465
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: you're saying the room should be lowered, then you don't

1466
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: really appreciate what's already going on in the game, considering

1467
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: your journey um to where you are now, where you sit.

1468
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: What is it a piece of advice you would give

1469
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: to an aspiring young lady looking to be an athlete

1470
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: or more of even a business owner, you know, I think,

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Speaker 1: But women it is different, Like at you can't a

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Speaker 1: guy could be like the eleventh man on the team.

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01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: You couldn't tell him he wouldn't go into the league,

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01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: Like you really could not tell like guys have this

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01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: like inner boastfulness that they believe in themselves, and so

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01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: women will critique ourselves until maybe we shouldn't even go

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Speaker 1: to the w b A. Like that's how we we

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01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: we think about ourselves and women we tend to almost

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01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: dim our light because we think about what are people

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01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: going to say and what are people going to think?

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01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: And so I think, if nothing else in I think

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Speaker 1: that young girls should see that, like women like we

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01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: got something to say. Like, I think that even you

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01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of women as many as you

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Speaker 1: should in high management positions, shall star our VP. I'm

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01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: like Harris now the first time think about that though

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: she's that's the first time in history that a woman

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01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: has held that high of a position. Why, Like, I

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: don't think it's for not being capable at this point,

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: but I think it's the norm and how people treated

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Speaker 1: women and how people, you know, having a woman boss.

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01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: I've been in positions where I'm going to call I'm

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01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna call with my manager and people are talking to

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01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: him like he's he's the talent, or he's the one

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01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: because he's a guy. So you got another guy talking

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01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: and that's just how it happens. And so I think

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01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: now I think young girl should realize, like there's not

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01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: a position that we can't hold, even though if it

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Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet, it doesn't mean it can't. And so

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Speaker 1: I think that just that boldness, we need to have

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01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: that same We don't have to be arrogant, but we

1502
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: need to have that same inner thing that guys have

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: where you like, I'm telling you it could be a

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01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: guy that hasn't played pick up in so long, but

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01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: if somebody's like, check up, but I want to, like,

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, like guys just have that it's a bad thing.

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01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: That's what I said. Yeah, one thing men need to

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01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: do that women do more than we do. Y'all more

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01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: real with y'all say you know what I'm saying, we'll

1510
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: wake up to like you can go do it, you know,

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01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,959
Speaker 1: and damn where you can't do it, don't fall for it. Yeah,

1512
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: but that's that confidence, you see, Like, that's that confidence.

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01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: So that's why I said a little in between, take

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01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: a little bit from it. But women just are way

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01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: too real, almost too real in the sense of we

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01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: might dim our own bright light. And so I would

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01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: just say, yeah, that's over with quick hitters. First answer

1518
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: to come to mind, spit it out. Toughest player you

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: ever had the garden. Why, Um, she has a quick tip? Yeah,

1520
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: because I used to be in the smaller player so

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01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't like when people are under my dribble and

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01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't like when people are quickens than me and

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: different things of that nature. So yeah, she's she's a

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01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: tough guard. Carolina. Yeah, we ask that question. You said,

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01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: NBA players of all time, all time? Why you do

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01:08:55,000 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: that to me? Um, let's go Tina Thompson, Cynthia Cooper. Yeah,

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: I know, right, running suit Cynthia Cooper. Yeah. Like if

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01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna name teams, um, Don Staley, come on, come on, now,

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: this is hard because I mean we're talking o G.

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01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: I told you I like to pay respect, and so

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01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: there's so many, um let's see, I mean put it.

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01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, let's go buy more. Yeah. Yeah, I mean,

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01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: and there's I could think of an honorary five and

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01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: a second, but yeah, I'll just roll with that. Top

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01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: three basketball movies in your opinion. So I just was

1536
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: talking to Ray Allen, so we gotta put he got

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01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: game one there. Um, you said, do you say basketball

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01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: or sport? Basketball? Okay, cool. Then loving basketball white man

1539
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: can't jump, it's two out of my thread. Yeah? Five?

1540
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: Then against dead alive? Who would you invite? My gosh,

1541
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Jesus to sit at the table right,

1542
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: ask you some questions. Let's have a little change shot

1543
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: my go with Oprah. I want to see what she's

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01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: talking about. Um, I'm not Barack Obama. There, let's have

1545
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: a Actually, let's let's substitute Barack for Kamala Harris. Let's

1546
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: see what she's talking about. Get some women at the table.

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01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: Um is that? That's three? Oh? What is her name? Shirley?

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01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: The lady that ran for president? Shirley? Come on now,

1549
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: come on, baby, Malcolm X. What is her name? We

1550
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: didn't we didn't get behind? Uh? Shirley, Yes, Shirley Chisholm

1551
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: ran for BP. I want to talk to her because

1552
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: imagine her being that bowl. She was already writing the

1553
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: president's speeches and then she's like, you know what, I'm

1554
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: just running for myself. So I want to talk to her,

1555
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:52,839
Speaker 1: have a little chat. Um who else? Let me see? Actually, actually,

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have Abraham Lincoln said at the table, because

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01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: I want to see where he released stands on a

1558
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. We give him a lot of credit

1559
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: for stuff. So let's really see what you're talking about. Eggs. Yeah,

1560
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: like I want to tell you because I feel like

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01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: he was progressive for that time. But I want you know,

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01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: I want to have a chat and see if you

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01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: had to have one message on the well, we got

1564
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: politicians at the tables are and then you have Wooden

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01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: d interest too might look a little crazy. One message

1566
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: on a billboard for the world to see. Moments equal momentum,

1567
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: Moments equal momentum. I think that everybody doesn't realize how

1568
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: big things can get. But I opted out. That was

1569
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: one moment, through a cookout. That was another one, and

1570
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: things started to just spiral after that. Retired, that was

1571
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: a moment added to the momentum. Became an owner of

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01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: the FCF Beast of the football team, then became one

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01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: of the Atlanta Dreams. So yeah, all those moments. That's

1574
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: how you create your own momentum. You create your own moments,

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01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: right dancer. If you have one person that you would

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01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: like to see on all the smoke, who would it be?

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Speaker 1: But whever you answer, whatever I answer, if you have

1578
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: to help, you have to help us with that guest.

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01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 1: That's very clever. Let me think about that. You already

1580
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: have Simona gusts On here and that's the only um

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01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: hold on she Let me just think make sure because

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01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: I think she's so different in a sense of she's

1583
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: a sneaker head, but she likes like all of the stuff.

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01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 1: She has a Louisiana background. But let me think, I mean,

1585
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: they got it. They can't be ignoring your calls. No

1586
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: more needed because you're older now. So that's just going

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: straight through one is not tempering it. No. I get

1588
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: so many tweets like, was that comment you just made

1589
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: temper like talk about the players that are playing? Um, yeah,

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01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm roll with with uh. If it ain't, If it

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01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: ain't Serena Grace, who's an upcoming artist, I'm rolling with

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01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: Simona Augustus. That's how I'll go with that any day. Well,

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Speaker 1: Renee Montgomery, thank you for your time to appreciate what

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01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: you mean, what you want? What do you mean on

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01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: the show time that the house of business car company car? Yeah,

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01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: company cars in Jack's pocket. Anyway, that's a wrap all

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Speaker 1: the smoke. Thank you to our guests again, Renemed Montgomery.

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Speaker 1: You can catch us on Showtime Basketball YouTube, and the

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