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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: And here we are fresh off a holiday weekend, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. One Bill's Live is the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us and making us a part of

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Speaker 2: your afternoon. And we should just in one final mention, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, honor those that made the ultimate sacrifice for

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Speaker 2: our country, which is who should be remembered on Memorial Day.

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Speaker 2: So our thanks to those that made the ultimate sacrifice.

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Speaker 2: You know, we all get barbecues and everything else on

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Speaker 2: that day, but there are a lot of people that

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Speaker 2: you know, no longer have loved ones because of the

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Speaker 2: sacrifices that were made. We don't want to forget them

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Speaker 2: at all. On the heels a Memorial Day here, but

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Speaker 2: I know you got stuff you had to get done

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. And oh yeah, I was visiting my

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Speaker 2: daughter in New York with my family, so it was

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Speaker 2: good catching up with her for a few days.

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Speaker 1: Didn't And you know, I was telling people last week

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Speaker 1: I was a Knicks I've been a Knicks fan because

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Speaker 1: you know you're a Knicks fan. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll jump on board because I don't have an NBA

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Speaker 1: or what nobody cares, right, So.

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Speaker 2: The Kansas City Kings aren't a team. Yeah, they're in sach.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So I said, you know, all right, brownie,

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Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in for the Knicks for this postseason.

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Speaker 1: And promptly, well, the Knicks did you know, win the

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Speaker 1: first that game, the first round series, and I'm thinking, okay,

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Speaker 1: we got a little momentum, let's go. We didn't expect

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Speaker 1: them to beat the defending champion Celtics, right, I mean, wow, okay,

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Speaker 1: and then they get to the Pacers. I'm like, stinking Nicks.

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Speaker 2: Not looking good. But if they did find a way

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Speaker 2: to win tonight, it's a whole new series. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say it's the best of three.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say I'm a fair Weather fan,

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Speaker 1: but man, oh man, I'm completely a fair Weather fan

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Speaker 1: because they went down to nothing in the series and

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Speaker 1: then they're down like sixty two points in the first half.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were down like twenty plus points in

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Speaker 1: the first half. I'm like, you know what, Oh, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about Game three now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Like two was done or Sunday, yees Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'm you know what, I'm I'm going to bed.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that you missed the cat comeback.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm I did, and I don't. I'm not feeling

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Speaker 1: guilty about it at all either. So but I am

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Speaker 1: in for the you know, for the remainder of whatever

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Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: I'm like most Knicks fans, I'm cheering for the Knicks

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Speaker 1: and with no hope.

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Speaker 2: I'm hopeful, right. I am not delusional though, unlike the

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Speaker 2: fans that I witnessed in Manhattan over the weekend. Because

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Speaker 2: after they won Sunday by the slimmest of margins thanks

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Speaker 2: to a Karl Anthony Towns takeover in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: in which he had twenty points, including three threes, there's

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Speaker 2: you know, fans out on the street in front of

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Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden after winning the first game of the series,

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Speaker 2: still trailing two games to one with game four in Indiana,

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Speaker 2: the delusional ones are out on the street. They're on

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Speaker 2: seventh Avenue and thirty third in front of Madison Square Garden,

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Speaker 2: chanting Nixon six. Yeah, that's that's that is fool That

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Speaker 2: is foolish talk. Is what that? You you expect this

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Speaker 2: team to win four? In a row against the Pacers

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Speaker 2: are gonna be lucky to win four out of five

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Speaker 2: and take it in seven, right, But they went tonight,

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Speaker 2: the pressure I think shifts back to the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get all that. That's that's all well and good.

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Speaker 1: I'm it's the time of the year where you start

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Speaker 1: to if you have any spare time, if maybe this

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Speaker 1: is the explanation for Wyman knicks. Man, the weather's been

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Speaker 1: so bad, I've been Yeah, you're stuck inside. I'm watching

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Speaker 1: I'm watching sports on TV. The weather was nice over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, at least yesterday, and whatever. I was outside

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Speaker 1: doing stuff. Man, I didn't. I wasn't watching sports or anything.

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Speaker 2: And I was. I was not either.

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Speaker 3: I did. Uh.

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Speaker 2: I did take in an MLS game at Yankee Stadium

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, New NYCFC New York City Football Club. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so they were Yeah, they were playing Chicago. So we

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Speaker 2: caught that game on Sunday. We're kind of a soccer family,

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Speaker 2: and that was interesting seeing a soccer field reconfigure a

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Speaker 1: Oh, because do they have the infield and everything in there?

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Speaker 2: So the infield dirt is filled in with grass?

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Speaker 2: Okay, and it's just like, you still see it, well,

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Speaker 2: you can see it, but I mean they do a

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Speaker 2: pretty good job, and it was not compromise during the

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Speaker 2: game at any point in time. But I'm just thinking

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Speaker 2: of all the grounds crew work involved, because now you've

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Speaker 2: got to tear that back up. Or actually I think

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Speaker 2: they have another game tomorrow, but after that they got

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Speaker 2: to tear it back up because the Yankees come back to town. Right,

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Speaker 2: They're on a West Coast stadium.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Really, they're building a stadium for that team. It's going

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it opens till next year, maybe even

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Speaker 2: the year after. So they're playing in the Bronx right now,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, they got the grounds crew's got

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: You know what we got we have to talk about

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Speaker 1: is the Bandits game. Oh yeah, third World Championship in

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Speaker 1: a row.

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Speaker 2: We were following on our phones because we were out

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Speaker 1: I've been I haven't been to that many Bandness games,

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Speaker 2: I was at game one.

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Speaker 1: You go to those games in the arena and.

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Speaker 2: Oh they got a following fire man, let it go.

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely on fire. And uh, they just this one.

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Speaker 1: There was the ten the tinfoil hat people were out

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Speaker 1: after game two of the three game series. And we're

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Speaker 1: accusing or speculating that the Bandits like just laid down

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Speaker 1: win it in Key Bank.

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Speaker 2: Interesting conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: I doubt that happened. But man, oh man, what what

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Speaker 1: an atmosphere you see? You know, you see the Bills

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Speaker 1: games and stuff, and everybody's dressed in blue and red

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Speaker 1: nuts man Bandits games orange. It's like they painted the place.

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Speaker 2: So I went to game one last week, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: two Saturdays ago or Fridays ago, and that was a

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Speaker 2: they lose. I think they lost by one, right, So

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Speaker 2: then they came back here, they pulled away. I was

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Speaker 2: surprised that they won by it was fourteen to six,

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Speaker 2: like they they just ran off and left started.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's just a lot of Bills players were at the

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Speaker 2: at game one. They were a couple more at the

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Speaker 2: championship game over the weekend and you know, three in

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Speaker 2: a row is nothing to sneeze at. Man, in any

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Speaker 2: I don't care what sports you I don't care if

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Speaker 2: you're playing tittley winks. Three in a row.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to feel an electric buffalo atmosphere, go

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Speaker 1: to a Bandits game, man. That's that'll get you through

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Speaker 1: the off season of the Bills, for sure. That game

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Speaker 1: they've got atmosphere over there.

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Speaker 2: Coach McDermott addressed the media like an hour or so

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Speaker 2: before we came on the air here and he he

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Speaker 2: tipped his hat to the Bandit's organization, you know, and

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Speaker 2: coach Tavares and everything that they've done over there of

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Speaker 1: Seasons and stuff. Man.

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Speaker 2: So it's nice to see that recognition by coach McDermott. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't hurt to have a little of that rub off,

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Speaker 2: that little championship pedigree.

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Speaker 1: They've got it going on, thought, and they've they've they've

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Speaker 1: been good from the jump too. They've been good perennially

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Speaker 1: two but man, oh man, you go back over the decades,

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Speaker 1: they've been good almost at the highest level, year after year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So congrats to them.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations guys.

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Speaker 2: But we've got big time things going on here at

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Speaker 2: one Bill's Drive because OTA practices began late this morning

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Speaker 2: and there was plenty of news and notes as coach

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Speaker 2: McDermott addressed the media prior to today's practice session. First,

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Speaker 2: everyone but James Cook is in attendance, per Coach McDermott

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Speaker 2: for the voluntary practice sessions. Coach McDermott said he's been

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Speaker 2: in touch with Cook and that his feature running back

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Speaker 2: they'll go from there. Not participating today and likely until

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Speaker 2: we reach training camp is veteran defensive end Joey Bosa.

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Speaker 2: Bosa pulled a calf muscle late last week during phase

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Speaker 2: two of the offseason conditioning program. Coach McDermott said he's

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Speaker 2: expected to be ready for training camp, but is likely

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Speaker 2: missing the balance of OTAs and mini camp, so that's

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Speaker 2: a little unfortunate for those wondering. Josh Allen in attendance

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Speaker 2: participating as our MSG viewers are seeing here with video

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Speaker 2: that's running right now, so he's on hand for that.

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Speaker 2: Coach McDermott called him being in attendance huge and that

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Speaker 2: his leadership has an exponential impact on the rest of

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Speaker 2: the team. He also had some other interesting comments. Coach

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Speaker 2: McDermott said, Keon Coleman came back in great shape, and

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Speaker 2: it was evident that weight room wise and drill wise,

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Speaker 2: he had put in a lot of work this offseason.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what that translates into on the field. Regarding

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Speaker 2: the tush push play surviving another year year at the

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Speaker 2: league owners meetings with a twenty two to ten vote,

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Speaker 2: and whether he would authorize offensive coordinator Joe Brady to

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Speaker 2: call such a play, said quote, we'll play within the rules.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they're going to run it. Yeah, when you

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Speaker 1: need it, he'd pull it out.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I think there was some question as to

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Speaker 2: whether that play would continue to be in Buffalo's playbook,

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Speaker 2: knowing how staunchly against the play coach McDermott was as

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Speaker 2: a member of the Competition Committee, citing player safety as

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Speaker 2: his main reason for his feelings on that, But he said,

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Speaker 2: think if they need a play like that, they're going

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Speaker 2: to run it because it is within the rules. And

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Speaker 2: I'll probably keep running it until it's not right, which

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Speaker 2: he'd be as soon as next season.

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Speaker 1: All got it. They're effective doing it on twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, it was largely successful. They get the

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game and the chief stopped it three times.

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Speaker 1: That's says something in and of its although the last

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Speaker 1: one they ran probably didn't get stopped, but they said

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Speaker 1: it got stopped.

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Speaker 2: And never mind Chris Jones lining up in the neutral

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Speaker 2: zone and not drawing a flag. But that's all another story.

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Speaker 1: We're not bitter though, so yeah, that's in there. Run it, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And coach McDermott, on the subject of being the Hard

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Speaker 2: Knocks team for training camp on HBO said While mc

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Speaker 2: he said while it would be an opportunity for the

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Speaker 2: behind closed doors, he did say the challenge for the

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Speaker 1: Here's what always gets you as an as me being

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody cares right now. We taught it was Yes,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we uh right, we actually, man, it's funny. We

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Speaker 1: Look at you.

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Speaker 2: Over thecap dot Com put together a list of rosters

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Speaker 1: They were young, they were a playoff team. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: twelve short yardage sneak attempts in his career. He's converted

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Speaker 2: the first down eleven times since twenty twenty one. Only

439
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Speaker 2: two quarterbacks have run the play more than Fields, Jalen

440
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Speaker 2: Hurts and Josh Allen. But fields percentage granted much smaller

441
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Speaker 2: sample size. He's got a higher success rate than both

442
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Speaker 2: of them. Josh is fifty to fifty five Hertz is

443
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Speaker 2: eighty six out of one hundred. Fields is eleven out

444
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Speaker 2: of twelve.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good play, high percentage play, let's face it,

446
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Speaker 1: but it's never unless you're inside that one yard line

447
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: or the two yard is not designed to go for

448
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Speaker 1: a touchdown, you know, So it's the success rate has

449
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,959
Speaker 1: a low bar. You got to get a yard usually

450
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Speaker 1: or a yard and a half, So it's a low

451
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Speaker 1: bar to be successful, which is why there's such a

452
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Speaker 1: high percentage on it. But yet I'm that makes sense

453
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Speaker 1: to me. That just probably did the right thing.

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Speaker 2: One other note on the tush push play. Desmond tush

455
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Speaker 2: push terminator Watson, the Florida product who went four hundred

456
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Speaker 2: and twenty one pounds, was signed by Tampa Bay as

457
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Speaker 2: an undrafted rookie and a lot of people view him

458
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: as strictly that a huge defensive tackle to stop short

459
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Speaker 2: yardage conversions. But Buck's head coach Todd Bole said, hold

460
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Speaker 2: on a second. When asked about the player, he said,

461
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Speaker 2: quote to judge him right now is very early. And

462
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Speaker 2: we didn't get him for the tush push. We got

463
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 2: him because we really thought he could play. It's just

464
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Speaker 2: a matter of getting him to the point where he

465
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Speaker 2: can play more than two or three plays per drive.

466
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Speaker 2: And that's rooted in his weight and conditioning, because if

467
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Speaker 2: you watch some of his college tape, he can stand

468
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: in there grind and he sticks an arm in a

469
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Speaker 2: running lane and he drags a guy down four hundred

470
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Speaker 2: and twenty one pounds.

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Speaker 1: You think about it. He could lose one hundred pounds

472
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Speaker 1: and still be big, right, that's that's a problem.

473
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Speaker 2: Well, we'll see.

474
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Speaker 1: It's a problem for him and I. He's now obviously

475
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Speaker 1: he's a big dude, and he carries and he's been

476
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Speaker 1: living like this for he's young. But he's been living

477
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: like this for his life. So he didn't get there overnight.

478
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: Well, you don't get anywhere overnight at four hundred and

479
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: twenty one pounds. That's so sorry, he was right there.

480
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Speaker 1: Right, Sorry, like I teed that up for you.

481
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Speaker 3: But that.

482
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Speaker 1: It'll What it is really is a test of what's

483
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Speaker 1: inside that kid. If he's got it inside of him

484
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Speaker 1: to do it, you can count it as being done already.

485
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Speaker 1: If he's that type of kid. We don't know how

486
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: he's been treated before this, you know, whether he's they said, yeah,

487
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: get as big as you want to get, do it,

488
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: and whether they handed it to him, or whether they

489
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: were trying to get him to do something and he

490
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Speaker 1: couldn't do it. He may have other's just nobody knows about.

491
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: So that's you know, that's the real challenge. The club's

492
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: got to get it inside what makes him tick and

493
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: push the right buttons to get him motivated to change

494
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: if they need him to change, and if they want

495
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: him to change and change in the right way, and

496
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: change because he wants to change. All of that stuff

497
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: goes in. So it's a huge psychological spot. We've seen

498
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: other guys do it. Aj Panessa dropped a ton of

499
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Speaker 1: weight when he came.

500
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Speaker 2: Up twenty and twenty back, right up and down.

501
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Speaker 1: He was riding that roller coaster. There have been guys

502
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Speaker 1: back when I played. I remember coming in, we had,

503
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, a guy and I couldn't even tell you

504
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: his name now is is escaping me? But he was

505
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: a full back came in. He was kind of a

506
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a round guy, kind of a

507
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: heavy dude, and he came in. And then the Bills

508
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: in that time when the K gun was getting there

509
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: and Thurm was spreading his wings and they said, listen,

510
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: we're going single back. So all the running backs in

511
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: our building had to become tailbacks, fullbacks everybody. And I

512
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: come in after being gone for a month in the

513
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: off season, you know, and hey, I come back and

514
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: I look at a guy and I, you know, I

515
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: went new guys in the locker room, you know, and

516
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: I look at him the new guy, and I kind

517
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: of looked past and looked up at the at the

518
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: name plate, and I stopped and I looked back down

519
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: at him. He had transformed, Yeah, completely transformed himself. And

520
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: I didn't almost didn't recognize him. And I told I

521
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: was I was like, dude, is Larry. No, No, Larry

522
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: never transformed.

523
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I don't remember that.

524
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: He was just a young running back. And I was like, dude,

525
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: look at you. And he kind of gives you a

526
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: sense of it's inspiring. It's really inspiring to see a

527
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: guy do that. Jamie Mueller did it on a couple

528
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: of different levels.

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Speaker 3: Yea.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He came in as a very raw prospect as a tailback,

532
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: and he was stiff and couldn't catch. He couldn't catch

533
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: a cold. You know, he couldn't catch his own behind

534
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: with two hands. You know, he could nothing. He comes

535
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: back the next year and he was one handed catching everything.

536
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: He was doing this, and and you know the trainers

537
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: like Woody, you know, Randy Ribbick, wood Hojo and those guys,

538
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: they were looking at Jamie sideway. I I was pumping

539
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: three hundred footballs a day to that guy. He taught

540
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: himself to catch and he dropped down. He was he

541
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: got down to the sub four four fourth, the whole thing.

542
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: So guys do it. It'll be interesting to see if

543
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: a tush push the terms pushed terminator could become an

544
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Speaker 1: NFL player more for more than one or two plays

545
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Speaker 1: at a time. I mean, it's kind of fun to

546
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: think about. It's fun, it's great to see, and it

547
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: really is inspiring for.

548
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Speaker 2: Oh, if he can make it happen for me.

549
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, even for established players to see guys go through

550
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: that and do it, because they you know, everybody's got

551
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: their own sacrifices that they make. To see a guy

552
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: do that, it ain't easy.

553
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: Last thing here around the NFL. Tom Brady made an

554
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: appearance at the Indy five hundred over the weekend and

555
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: was roundly booed by those in attendance. Hey you go,

556
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: I got a question for you. Do you think his

557
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: marketing people even remotely consider how Brady will be received

558
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: when appearing in a city with an AFC club that

559
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: he used to just trample with regularity. I mean, especially

560
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: one that had so many playoff battles with the Patriots.

561
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Peyton Manning and the Colts beat

562
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: them once what twice in the playoffs because they went

563
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: to two super Bowls, so they got buy him twice

564
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: in the playoffs to get to the super Bowl. But

565
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: what kind of if you are Brady's marketing people and

566
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity to show up in Indianapolis at the

567
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Speaker 2: biggest event that city hosts, which is the Indy five hundred,

568
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Speaker 2: are you thinking like, aren't you giving it some measure

569
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: of thought that there are some crossover fans that are

570
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis that will be attending this in their hometown

571
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Speaker 2: that are also football fans and hate Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: I think they got to lean into that. Okay, So

573
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: I think that you got to spin it your way

574
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: he is.

575
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: Or maybe it just increases the legend Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: He's at a completely different sport. A couple of hundred

577
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: thousand people in attendance, all of them know him, and

578
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: they all hate him. Yeah, you got to lean into that,

579
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: I guess you do. You gotta lean into and he

580
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: and he also he's a partial owner of one of

581
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: your of the conference rival as well in Vegas. Yeah, dude,

582
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: you like play the pokem with a stick. If I'm

583
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: you got you gotta have at least you gotta have

584
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: six Super Bowl rings on your finger. When you go

585
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: and when they show you on camera and you get booed,

586
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: you go like this, You wave it like this with

587
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: the back of your hands and your head say yeah,

588
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: take a you know, take a suck of that Indianapolis.

589
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: You you gotta lean into it, man. I guess maybe

590
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: that's the villain in me.

591
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, we're up against the break here. But before

592
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Speaker 2: we do a topic of conversation for you today, obviously

593
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: we got ot as starting here. So what are you

594
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: hoping to hear from the OTA practices about the Bills.

595
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: Maybe there's some player in mind that you're hoping to

596
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: hear good things about. Maybe there's some part of the

597
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: team offense, defense, special teams, some component therein that you're

598
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: curious about and you're hoping to hear good things. What

599
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: is that? What part of the team are you hoping

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00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: to hear about from OTAs.

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Speaker 3: This week?

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Speaker 2: Eighth three five point fifty one eight eight eight five

603
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: fifty two, five point fifty those are the numbers to

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Speaker 2: join us, and we do have open lines for you.

605
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Speaker 2: We'll take a break here. We will take your phone calls,

606
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: but we also have some comments from one Greg Russo.

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Speaker 2: When we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: Colida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. OTA is underway here at One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Drive today, and as we told you at the

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Speaker 2: top of the show, everybody in attendance except James Cook.

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00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: Coach said he's maintained a dialogue with him and he'll

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Speaker 2: get here when he's ready to show up, and kind

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00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: of left it at that. Joey Bosa out until training

615
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: camp with a calf muscle pull suffered late last week.

616
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: Just happened, so it looks like he's going to miss

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Speaker 2: the balance of OTAs and mini camp. Josh Allen in

618
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: attendance along with just about everybody else performing out there

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Speaker 2: on the field. So our question that we posed to

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Speaker 2: you today, what are you hoping to hear from the

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Speaker 2: OTA sessions about the Bills? Eight oh three five point

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Speaker 2: fifty won, eight of eight, five point fifty two, five

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Speaker 2: fifty those are the numbers to get on board with us.

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Speaker 2: And leading us off today is Butcher on the East Side.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for his?

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Speaker 3: Butcher?

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Speaker 6: My brothers from another mother it's a pleasant to talk

628
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Speaker 6: to you. I love MSG, I love WGR so all

629
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Speaker 6: the fans who listen and watch, butch from the East,

630
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 6: I love you seriously. I just want to get to it.

631
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Speaker 6: That's a couple of things that I was told my

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Speaker 6: good friend to the phone was going to speak, but

633
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna put that for tomorrow. That's the office philosophy, Pevensilosi.

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00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 6: I'm gonna touch base on a couple of things today, though.

635
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 6: One I'm gonna talk about Joey Boltson. In the second,

636
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 6: I was gonna talk about what you and Chris Steve,

637
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 6: what you and Brownie Rich speaking about about the live

638
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 6: cameras at training camp this year. But let me just

639
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 6: start with Joey Bolsa. I spoke to guys probably when

640
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 6: Joey first signed, and I was I'm happy Joey's here

641
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 6: in Western New York region, but it's a different region.

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00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 6: I told you guys before that I love my football team.

643
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 6: As you guys know, I don't worship names on the

644
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 6: back of jerseys. I use Steve for example. I love

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00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 6: Steve Tasker as my brother and as a and as

646
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 6: a fan and as a player. But Louis picone Will

647
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 6: eighty nine prior prior to Steve and I love Louie

648
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 6: as well, but because they represented my football team saying that,

649
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 6: Joey Bosa, I want to say this to you. This

650
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 6: is personal.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 6: I'm happy here, but let me tell you something, my friend.

653
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Speaker 6: We ain't playing games. See, we're trying to win to

654
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 6: trying to win a Super Bowl. We've been down the

655
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 6: road of all the Pansys and everybody else that came

656
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 6: in here and thought that this football region was just

657
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 6: a regular football region.

658
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: We're not.

659
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 6: We're very special. Our fans are very educated about football.

660
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 6: Our region is very loyal, and I expect you to

661
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 6: get yourself in shape. I expect you to put yourself

662
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 6: out of harm's way to get injured, and I expect

663
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 6: you to be ready to play to help this football

664
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 6: team win a Super Bowl. I'm going to say that

665
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 6: I'm going to stand on that like white on rights,

666
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna be on you. I'm gonna applaud you

667
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 6: when you right, and I'm gonna be on you when

668
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 6: you're wrong. I want you to understand that starting out now,

669
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 6: last but not listen, thanks for taking my call. Is

670
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 6: that you guys spoke about hard knocks. This is what

671
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 6: I want to say. This is comical, but it's real. Steve,

672
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 6: you you know I'm gonna use you for example. Well,

673
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 6: because you have a son like Lil who's maybe a

674
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 6: little older than thirty five years old. But at the

675
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 6: same time, these young kids nowadays, they lingos different, their

676
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 6: swag is different, the way they carry themself is totally different.

677
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 6: And I want us, as fans, including myself, when we

678
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 6: watch the Hired Knocks and I want the players to

679
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 6: be loose. I want them to be free. I don't want,

680
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 6: as they say, quote being your best behavior, I don't

681
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 6: want that. I want you to be ready whatever it

682
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 6: takes you to be ready. In training camp. Again, the

683
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 6: cameras are watching or not, it's going to be a

684
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 6: lot of different things that maybe we as older people

685
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 6: don't see or speak like, we don't call it embarrassing,

686
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 6: like it's embarrassing our football city or everything else. I

687
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 6: just want my players, even though the camera's going to

688
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 6: be there, to be ready to play. And if they

689
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 6: say something kind of weird or something different that we

690
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 6: don't speak or how we don't say, so be it.

691
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 6: Don't judge them, don't condemn them. Don't play god when

692
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 6: you do listen to the subject. But thanks for taking

693
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 6: my call, guys. I love you man, and you guys

694
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 6: have our standing day, all.

695
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: Right, Thanks? Butch Yeah, I'm sure people have different expectations

696
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: about how much they expect from Joey Bosa. And when

697
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: he comes out and he has all this interest as wealth,

698
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: he can just stay healthy for a while, and now

699
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: he's already hurt. I mean, I'm even lined up. It's

700
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: pretty disheartening for Joey Bosa fans. Certainly, this team feels

701
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: like it's good enough to go and contend and be

702
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: on the doorstep again of the Super Bowl, with or

703
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: without Joey. Joey's good enough to help, though, we all

704
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: know that, and if he's not going to, we'd rather

705
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: not spend the time you're waiting on him, you know,

706
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: I expecting it from him. Just either give us Joey

707
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 1: Bosa or take him away. Most Bills fans are gonna

708
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: cheer for the team anyway and have high expectations with

709
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: or without him. The hard knocks thing, you said it,

710
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: but I kind of I got to agree with you.

711
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: All the distraction, the miked up the situation, the conversations

712
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: that are going to be on the air, all that stuff,

713
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: and just be ready to play. Just be ready to

714
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: play when when they tee it up for real and

715
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: hard knocks is done, be ready, don't you. I don't

716
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: want any excuses about hard knocks coming in. And there's

717
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: and I'll say this too, there's no I don't believe

718
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: even the Madden curse. I don't believe in the Sports

719
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: Illustrated curse back in the day. I don't believe. Come on,

720
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: just get ready to play. Hard knocks is hard knocks.

721
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: Get ready. I'm that's a good call. Butch I agree

722
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: with both your points about Joey Bosa and hard knocks.

723
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bosa played in fourteen games last year. I

724
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: think the hope is that he kind of found a

725
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: way to work around some of the injury issues that

726
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: plagued his availability in previous seasons. This obviously isn't a

727
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: good jumping off point here. Certainly nobody wanted this to happen,

728
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 2: But I guess if it's going to happen, happened when

729
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: games aren't being played, happened now, you know, and then

730
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: hopefully you can get it properly rehabilitated so it doesn't

731
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: resurface and become chronic. That's probably the hope going forward.

732
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: Let's go to Judy and Buffalo next. What's up, Judy?

733
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 5: And here we are with the best quarterback in the league.

734
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: I'm hoping that Kincaid Pullman's step up. And yet we've

735
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 5: made some acquisitions that I need to know more about.

736
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 5: Like we have this receiver from the Los Angeles ramps,

737
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 5: we have wives or more they are they going to

738
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 5: make a significant difference. I know we have Shakepear promoter

739
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: Shakir two years ago.

740
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 6: I still think.

741
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 5: He's stellar, but we do not have that wide receiver

742
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 5: such it doesn't bother me if these other people can

743
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 5: step up. We have so many receivers online. Who is

744
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 5: going to be cut and who is going to be left?

745
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a valid question. I just I just don't

746
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: know if we have all the answers yet.

747
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: Judy.

748
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: I think the proof's going to be in the putting

749
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: on that. I mean, it's day one of OTA's and

750
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: to pass judgment now I think would be very premature.

751
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, you know, I think and

752
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: Steve and I have talked about this. You can probably

753
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: count on your one hand five guys that stand a

754
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: very good chance of being on the fifty three, either

755
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: based on prior experience, Cachet coming in the door, or

756
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: contract size because of the commitment the team has made

757
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: to them. You could probably pick five guys already, and

758
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: Steve and I looking at the roster of receivers, of

759
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: which there are currently thirteen, believe there's five guys that

760
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: stand a better than fifty to fifty shot to make

761
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: the roster, and then everybody else is fighting for arguably

762
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: one spot. And that's only if they keep six receivers

763
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: on the fifty three man squad. So it's going to

764
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: be a tough roster to make number one. But I

765
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: will say coach McDermott was asked about how he feels

766
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: about his receiving corps now that for all intents and purposes,

767
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: it looks like it has been assembled. I mean, could

768
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: there be a late addition, Sure, if an injury happens

769
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: and you want to add some more veteran presents, I

770
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: suppose that's possible, But right now it kind of is

771
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: what it is. And it was interesting that coach McDermott said,

772
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: I am very happy with what we have in the

773
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: receiver room right now. Coach McDermott does not speak in

774
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: hyperbolic ways almost ever right And for him to say

775
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: very excited about what he has in the receiver room,

776
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: I think is very telling about the talent level he

777
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: believes they have assembled there. Again, the proof is what

778
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: happens on the field, and I think it's premature, Judy,

779
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: to assess whether they have enough difference makers to get

780
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: them over the hump in that area.

781
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to say as well, given the

782
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: pedigree of the guys they've got in this year compared

783
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: to last year, expectations should be higher now last year.

784
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: I don't think by any it's not a stretch to

785
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: say they overperformed from preseason expectations. Nobody knew Khalil was

786
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: outside of you, Judy. Nobody knew Khalil was gonna be

787
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: that good I did outside of you and me, Khalil,

788
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: you're laughing at me. I thought Khalil was gonna be

789
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: good too. After he won me over, I tell him

790
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: what I thought of him. When they drafted Iteve.

791
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: It was a bit of a nay sayer.

792
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: I was a naysayer and Khalil Shakir on me over

793
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: a big time, and obviously last year and outside of him,

794
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: and our high hopes for Dalton Kincaid last year and

795
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: maybe thinking well Keon, maybe give him a bump sometime

796
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: Latens all of that stuff, we thought, yea, who the

797
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: heck is Mac Collins? Who you know? We didn't know who?

798
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: They completely overperformed. So given that that that can happen

799
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: inside the roster of the Bills throughout the season, and

800
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: given the pedigree of the guys they have in there

801
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: this year, with Keon, Coleman, Curtis Samuel, Josh Palmer, Khalil

802
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: Shakir and THEO and Elijah, the whole list of other

803
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: guys down there, the expectations have to be exponentially higher

804
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: for this crew, exponentially higher. Thirteen guys in training camp.

805
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: Eight of them will be around the building in some way,

806
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: shape or form practice squad guys like the Tyrrel Shavers

807
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Maybe they'll be a different kind of guy.

808
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: Maybe Shavers will be on that, maybe he'll be the

809
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: sixth guy who knows, And maybe they're gonna have two

810
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: or three other guys banging around the building trying to develop,

811
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: to get on the active roster or at least hang

812
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: in there in the practice squad. They need those guys

813
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: to be ready. Thirteen guys and you got four of

814
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: them that are pretty much entrenched. I would say, given

815
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: their contracts and their situation and their cachet, that's not

816
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: much room on this roster. And those guys have high

817
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: expectations attached to them. So I'm I'm kind of with you, Judy.

818
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm it's a little early in the process to see

819
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: who it's gonna be, how it's gonna fall shakeout. But

820
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: you start the whole conversation with Khalil Shakir and you

821
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: go from there. Everybody else has a little something something

822
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: to prove.

823
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back. More

824
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: of your phone calls. As we're asking you, what are

825
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: you hoping to hear from the OTA practices about the

826
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: bills eight oh three oh five point fifty one eighty

827
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five fifty more of your phone

828
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: calls next year on one Bills Live. Stay tuned, all right,

829
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: Welcome back to one of Bill's live here on this Tuesday,

830
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: first day of OTA practices. First Rusty Tasker with you.

831
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: We got a chance to take in about an hour

832
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: of workout, spirited as you would expect it to be.

833
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: It's always very competitive out there on the field with

834
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 2: this crew, and today was no different. But let's get

835
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: back to the phones at eight o threeh five fifty

836
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: one eight eight five fifty two five point fifty, and

837
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: so we are asking you what are you hoping to

838
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: hear in terms of news coming out during OTA practices

839
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: this week? Got open lines for you. At eight oh

840
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: three oh five fifty we go back to the phones

841
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: and to Dave in Buffalo. What's up Dave?

842
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 8: All right, thanks for taking my calls. The main thing

843
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 8: I hope to hear from OTAs is that they're injury free.

844
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 8: Part of the APPEALVI in NFL is that is big

845
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 8: guys moving incredibly high speeds and doing the rect this season,

846
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 8: injuries are part of the game that I'm willing to take,

847
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 8: but having players injured during OTAs is really a problem,

848
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 8: and I just hope that they're injury free. I mean,

849
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 8: particularly the injury to Bosa that just happened, you know

850
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 8: in some off season activity. Is maybe really sensitive to it.

851
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 8: But the main thing I want to hear is injury free.

852
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, Dave. Unfortunately, even in the practice setting,

853
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: you know, we're dealing with a sport where injuries happen.

854
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: I mean, guys are it's a high intensity sport because

855
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: plays last usually no more than seven seconds, and those

856
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: are the long ones, and guys are going at one

857
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent of their ability level in terms of explosion, speed,

858
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: cutting and all of that stuff. And when two forces

859
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 2: meet in an awkward way, both going at that rate,

860
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 2: sometimes bad things happen. And any coach will tell you

861
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: every time they step on a field, they're holding their

862
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: breath that their players can remain healthy. But it's to

863
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: some degree it's unrealistic.

864
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get Yeah, that's that's a fine answer,

865
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: no question, and I'm sure everybody would echo that. What

866
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: else you got, you know, Yeah, I get it.

867
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: It's a nice thing to want.

868
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: It's a nice thing to want, but if you want

869
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: to play, you're gonna roll the dice. I mean, that's

870
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: all there is to it. So yeah, I get it.

871
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: What are you gonna say? Okay, everybody's fan, there's a

872
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: lot of it is not the case. Yeah, there's a

873
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: lot of other things I'd rather hear other than that,

874
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: because I because these guys got three months to get

875
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: ready anyway, so certainly you don't want to see anybody. Yeah,

876
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: that's like you say the same thing about your office crew.

877
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: I hope nobody gets hurt today. You know, when everybody's

878
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: sitting at a desk.

879
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: Consecutive days without an office acts.

880
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: Right, I got a paper cut. That's day zero again, right,

881
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: So that Yeah, life's are risk, So I'm I get it.

882
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: But these guys are gonna get healthy. They're gonna they

883
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: should be healthy at the start of training camp because

884
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: everybody knows you've got to show up healthier. You're not

885
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: going to make the team. You can't make the club

886
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: in the tub is an old adage. It's just ridiculous

887
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: to say now, but that, yes, that is a given.

888
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: But there's a but there's a list of other things

889
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear out of this training camp, and

890
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: they have to do with some of them individual players,

891
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: how they're playing, coaching staff, everything. So yeah, but if

892
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: that's where you want to go, that's fine, good for you.

893
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are some player favorites in here

894
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: that people are curious about that I think they're going

895
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: to want to hear about. So yeah, I'm expecting more

896
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: of those takes than anything else from our listeners here

897
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: today at eight o three oh five fifty one two

898
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: five fifty. Steve and I did get a look, close

899
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: up look at the defensive lineman. Uh And to say

900
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: it's a big group would be an understatement. There's just

901
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: an awful lot more size there now, which is encouraging.

902
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: But it's so interesting seeing some of the biggest athletes

903
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: on the roster, and even there you can notice different

904
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: body types even at that size. That's the thing that's

905
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: so surprising to me.

906
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: Everybody carries their three hundred pounds the way they want to,

907
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, differently. Yeah, and there's something so incredibly judgy

908
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: about us sitting there. Everybody watches and there's media there, coaches,

909
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: and I remember as a player, same thing, like, you

910
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: know that you judge how guys look as part of

911
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: the deal, you got to pass the eye test. And

912
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: this group that the first thing out of around is said, wow,

913
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: they're big. You see guys running around out there that

914
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: are six five plus, well over three hundred pounds and

915
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: they just barely fit in to this group. You know,

916
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: they're just a guy. So they're big up front, on

917
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: their defensive line. Uh, and you know you get guys

918
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: like Ed All. It's like you look at Ed Oliver

919
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: who has always been kind of the one of the

920
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: on the smaller end of the defensive tackle and he's

921
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: one of those quick, you know, penetrating guys.

922
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: Yep.

923
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there he stands out because he's not big. So

924
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: it's it's taking shape and the shape is large.

925
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. We did see Dion Walker getting paid through drills.

926
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: As we were told by coach McDermott at the outset

927
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: of the spring, he was going to be paced through

928
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: things as they kind of bring him along at a

929
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: little bit slower pace because of the pars defect that

930
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: they've discovered in his back at the medical examinations at

931
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: the NFL Combine. So uh, he's he's kind of been

932
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: paced through the practice setting, not doing quite as much

933
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: as everybody else. We'll see if and when that changes.

934
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: It might they might wait till training camp before that happens,

935
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 2: but they've got some specimens on that side.

936
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: Of the ball.

937
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question about it, and I

938
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: think that's to be expected with the draft that they had,

939
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: with three of their first four picks being defensive linemen.

940
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: So there it is. Got to take a break here

941
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: as we are at the top of the hour eight

942
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 2: h three oh five fifteen the number to get on board.

943
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: What are you hoping to hear from OTAs about the bills.

944
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: We'll also get you some comments from Greg Russeau, who

945
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: might have a thing to say about the new additions

946
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 2: along the defensive line. And second hour of the show,

947
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: we hope to have Tredevius White here in studio with

948
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: us now in his second stint with the Bills. Be

949
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: interesting to get Trey's take on OTAs now that they

950
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: runs your way as well. All of that coming your

951
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: way in the second hour of the show. Here on

952
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: One Bills Live, Stay two.

953
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

954
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,959
Speaker 2: All Right, hour number two on a Tuesday, Chris Brown,

955
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Ohta is underway here one Pills

956
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: Drive today and we take you to the post practice

957
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: podium at this point in time, this practice is over

958
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: for the day and waiting there to address the media

959
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: one Greg Russo.

960
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 3: It's cool to be back.

961
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: It's been a minute since I've been on the field,

962
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 4: helmets on and stuff and in like a competitive mindset,

963
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 4: So I mean it's fun. It's fun to be back.

964
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: Uh, it was, it was cool. It was cool.

965
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 4: You know, we're just uh we know, we're all we're

966
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 4: always focused on the next step. So I mean, whenever

967
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: the time gets here training camp, we're gonna be We're

968
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 4: gonna be focused on just being locked and getting to

969
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: work in as Saint John Fisher that we always get

970
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 4: in every year and just helping that repel us to

971
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 4: God will only having a successful season.

972
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 9: What's it like a couple of new editions, especially in

973
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 9: the defensive line, thinking the fight by boys, hilarily open joby,

974
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 9: just getting them in. I know it's early on Greg, Well,

975
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 9: what does that kind of just new face maybe infuse

976
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 9: into this group?

977
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's been. It's been cool. You know.

978
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 4: Uh, everybody brings their own their own style to the

979
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 4: way they play. So to have new faces, uh that

980
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 4: are gonna help us out, it's been. It's been exciting

981
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 4: because everybody kind of, like I said, carries a different

982
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 4: skill set.

983
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 9: Get talked about going back to Fisher and I know

984
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 9: for you guys what that does chemistry wise, how it

985
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 9: kind of build your guys's bond being away three weeks

986
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 9: and you guys get to that part. But you think

987
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 9: of the new faces that are on this defense, right,

988
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 9: how important is that knowing from your experience of being

989
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 9: a fisher and getting these my own ploments, is that

990
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 9: to building that chemistry between not just the new guys,

991
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 9: but this whole unit, this whole defense.

992
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's cool and like like you said,

993
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 4: when you go over there, you kind of just you're isolated,

994
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 4: but you know everybody. Everybody's working hard, everybody's eating in

995
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 4: the same cafeteria, and everybody's walking the same path to

996
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 4: meetings and all that stuff. So everybody, so you're in

997
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 4: such close quarters that all you do is really grow closer.

998
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: It's a it's a really cool experience.

999
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 10: What's it like? What's kind of some of the general

1000
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 10: initial impressions, except for the re police screaming dial life?

1001
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: Really, is there anyone that's.

1002
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: Caught your eye?

1003
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 4: I mean, all the rookies in the line rooms caught

1004
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 4: my eye just the way they've come in like you're

1005
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 4: gonna learn and uh uh you could you could tell

1006
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 4: you could tell that they're just that they're just ready

1007
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: for the moment, ready to contribute anything.

1008
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: They can so. I mean it's always it's always fun.

1009
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 4: I feel like the rookies here always come in with

1010
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: the right mindset or just like earning their stripes and

1011
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 4: working and just earning it.

1012
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 10: What are you trying to get out of ots like

1013
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 10: this port you, honest.

1014
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 4: I'd say I try to get at OTA's kind of

1015
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: the same thing I get at any practice. You know,

1016
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 4: whether it's me working out my eyes, my eye progression,

1017
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 4: my hands, my uh, you can pretty much work pretty

1018
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 4: much everything in OTS that you can like a normal practice.

1019
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't have Shouler patters on, so it's

1020
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: not as physical. But when it comes to the technique stuff,

1021
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 4: you could have a plan and you could execute what

1022
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 4: you want to execute and just be dialted on that grey.

1023
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 10: I don't know if you were asked this, Yeah, but

1024
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 10: there's quite a few new faces in the d liner

1025
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 10: and Sean McGowan said earlier today. You know part of

1026
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 10: OTAs and mantoring mini campus building, that team chemistry. How

1027
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 10: have you helped to.

1028
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 3: Do so with your new teammates just by talking to them?

1029
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 4: Honestly, you know, Bosa, Larry tj they I taught to

1030
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 4: them specifically.

1031
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 3: They all like anime.

1032
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 4: So there's little things like that, like off the field

1033
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 4: stuff where you can kind of build that build that

1034
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 4: bond and build something and talk about and it carries

1035
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 4: on to the football field and it shows. It shows

1036
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 4: a lot in the fall and winter.

1037
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 10: How do you feel like that group is fitting in

1038
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 10: to the guys who have party been here?

1039
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 4: They're fitting and good are fitting good? You know, they're

1040
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 4: all they're all. They're all hard working. They go hard

1041
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 4: whether we're in the weight room or or whether we're

1042
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 4: out on the field. So I mean, they've been some

1043
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: really really good additions.

1044
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 10: I feel like you all have a favorite anime show together,

1045
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 10: probably not one, but definitely multiple.

1046
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: Naruto's hap on tight End, you just do kai Is

1047
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 4: in Solo Leveling. The list goes on like forever. So yeah, correct.

1048
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 11: I kind of think of like where you and aj

1049
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 11: are and your points of your career, and you have

1050
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 11: a guy like Joe and you've just had a lot

1051
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 11: of success in this league, and then think of like

1052
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 11: the rookie like landing kind of coming in here for

1053
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 11: you being at this point in your career, what is

1054
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 11: maybe shifted or what you kind of approach this small

1055
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 11: season in the season being with now that.

1056
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 9: You're kind of in this middle part of your career.

1057
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I know as a younger player, you

1058
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: go out there practice, you're just like trying not to

1059
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 4: mess up and you're trying to like kind of get

1060
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 4: everything right. But being older, being like in the year five,

1061
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 4: I could see more things out there and if I

1062
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: if I can see something to help a younger guy,

1063
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 4: I'll tell him like, yo, I saw this on this

1064
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 4: rep or or this or that and kind of bounce things,

1065
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 4: bounce ideas off of them because I know as a

1066
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 4: younger player, I appreciated when when when dudes like Vaughn

1067
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: did that for me.

1068
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, it seemed like some of the eleven on eleven

1069
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 10: like some celebrations on both sides of the ball kind

1070
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 10: of I know it's really on, but like what does

1071
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 10: that just dues to do overall by both times?

1072
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's dope. It's it's a lot of fun.

1073
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 4: That's what That's what we work for, whether we're in

1074
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 4: the off season or here during phase one or two

1075
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 4: of OTA's kind of just being able to go out

1076
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 4: there and make plays and kind of showcase your abilities

1077
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: a little bit. So it's always it's always cool to

1078
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 4: get out here in a competitive atmosphere.

1079
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 10: You like, Josh obviously is an established guy. It's got

1080
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 10: a lot going on. But for him to be here

1081
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 10: at a voluntary MTA and may just what does that

1082
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 10: say about the leader he is?

1083
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's special. You know, he's a special person football

1084
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: player and leader. And I mean, uh, he's a person,

1085
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 4: football player, leader, and for him to be here, Uh,

1086
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 4: it says a lot.

1087
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's the that's MVP of

1088
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 3: the league.

1089
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 4: So it pushes all of us because you see a

1090
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 4: dude that the top, at the top doing it and

1091
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: still coming to something that's voluntary. So I mean, I'm

1092
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 4: looking at it like you know what I'm saying. Younger

1093
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 4: guys seeing that, it's like all right, Like that's the

1094
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: type of place, that's type of team, and that's the

1095
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 4: type of culture we got here in Buffalo.

1096
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: So it motivates us all all right.

1097
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: So that's Greg Grows So addressing the media, he looks

1098
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: a little bigger through the shoulders and arms.

1099
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: Huh.

1100
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: That's a little bit of that going around. I think

1101
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: it's interesting. We never know, but they have exit interviews

1102
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: after every season, yes, and I think the team tries

1103
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: to be as specific as possible about what guys need

1104
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: to work on, what they need to do, and you know,

1105
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: it's sometimes it's obvious what they say. Otherwise I'd really

1106
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: like to know what they say to some of them,

1107
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, like Greg Russou had a pretty good year

1108
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: and he's still last year he was the most consistent

1109
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: and ever present defensive lineman they had, yep, and has been.

1110
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 1: I would like to know what they say to him,

1111
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, because he does. He're right, Brownie looked he

1112
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: looked bigger.

1113
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think he would be the only

1114
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: guy that was told, hey, we got to add some

1115
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 2: lean muscle mass here, need to be stronger, stouter up front.

1116
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: We weren't that this past year. So get yourself to

1117
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: a place where you know you're stronger than you are

1118
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: right now. And by the looks of it, he looks

1119
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: pretty good. Terrel Bernard looked like he added some weight

1120
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 2: to his frame. And then it's funny because you look

1121
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: at some older players, like we just saw Joey Bosa

1122
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: walking around here about a month ago, and I thought

1123
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: he looked trimmer, and which isn't uncommon for players as

1124
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: they get a little bit longer into their career, they

1125
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: know maybe their speed and explosiveness isn't what it was

1126
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: when they were a twenty two year twenty three year old,

1127
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: so they drop a little weight so they can rediscover

1128
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 2: that explosiveness. So different strokes for different folks, I guess

1129
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: is my point there.

1130
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's amazing too that these guys, as hard

1131
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: as they work, that there are things that coaches see.

1132
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 1: And that's really where it comes into. The coaches see

1133
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: these guys every day, they see them on the field,

1134
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: they talk to them. They they know who they are.

1135
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: And if when you have the ability to look at

1136
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: a guy objectively who you know so well, you can say, hey, listen,

1137
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: you need to do this. It'll make you better. And

1138
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: then it's always up to the player to say, yeah,

1139
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. I trust you, I know

1140
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: that you have my best you know my best interests

1141
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: at heart. I'm gonna I'm gonna do what you say.

1142
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: It sounds simple and it and it is simple, but

1143
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: it's it's never easy to do because it requires a

1144
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: lot of physical sacrifice for these guys, a lot of training,

1145
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: a lot of changing of a formula in their off

1146
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: season that they've been very successful doing.

1147
00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: And I mean Rousseau. I think everybody knows. He led

1148
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: the team in sacks with eight, but he also led

1149
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: the team in tackles for loss with sixteen. The next

1150
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: closest player had eight tackles for loss and that was

1151
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: aj Epanessa. And then he also led the team by

1152
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: a wide margin in quarterback hits by an almost two

1153
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: to one mark. He had twenty four quarterback hits. The

1154
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: next closest player was at Oliver with thirteen. So across

1155
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: the board, Rousseau was their best defensive lineman, their most

1156
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: consistent defensive lineman. He also led the team in forced

1157
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: fumbles with three, so tackles for loss, force fumbles, sacks,

1158
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: and quarterback hits he led the team in all of

1159
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 2: those categories. So you kind of wonder, does that become

1160
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 2: a springboard to a double digit sack season this year

1161
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: because it looks like he captured the consistency, you know

1162
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: what I mean. I mean, it's no guarantees for anything, Wenma.

1163
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: Since the Bills have had a double digit sack guy,

1164
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: and you think, well, it haven't been very good. Well,

1165
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: but it's hard for a guy to get double sacks

1166
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: when they're only playing you know, half of the snaps

1167
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: that other teams allow their guys to do, they don't.

1168
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: You know, you're never like von Miller was never getting

1169
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: a sack on first or second down last year. Yeah,

1170
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: and those happened around the league. You know, you get those,

1171
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: you get those plays and they add up over the

1172
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: course of seventeen games. So, you know, the Bills, it'd

1173
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: be really hard for one guy on the Bills roster

1174
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: to get the kind of like a Trey Hendrickson kind

1175
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: of year seventeen and a half sack. They're just not

1176
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna get enough snaps because they rotate eight guys, not

1177
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: four eight. So it's you kind of have to look

1178
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: at the Bills statistical production and with through a different lens,

1179
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: through a different different philosophical lens, because they ask less

1180
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: of more guys, yeah, instead of more from less. You know,

1181
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: they don't want to get they don't want to need

1182
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: to depend on a guy like you know, for instance,

1183
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: Von Miller or Joey Bosa to come in and get

1184
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty sacks, or Trey Hendrickson to get twenty

1185
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: sacks or fifteen to twenty sacks and everybody else has three,

1186
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 1: so they want a ton of guys all to have

1187
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: five to ten sacks, which they've kind of gotten over

1188
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: the last four year.

1189
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: Right.

1190
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: The only problem was last year the team total was

1191
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: down a year removed from having fifty three sacks and

1192
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: being a top five sack team in the league in

1193
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, they slipped all the way to eighteenth

1194
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: last year with just thirty eight sacks as a team,

1195
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: and you know they want to improve on that number.

1196
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: And it's not just about sacks, it's about hits and

1197
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: hurrying throws too, but they were down in the sack category.

1198
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: It all, you know, fits together statistically because as good

1199
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: as your offense is, it puts your defense in a

1200
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: different realm of statistics. You know, they're not they're going

1201
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: to always play against a desperate offense. They're always going

1202
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: to get different play selection from the team they play.

1203
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: The guy that's taking snaps on the other team against

1204
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: the Bills defense isn't handing it off every play or

1205
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: as much as they would in other games because they

1206
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: got to keep up with Josh in the offense. Right,

1207
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: it was the same thing back in the day. You

1208
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: can think, you can think how this works. Back in

1209
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: the day the k Gun, the Bill's defense was statistically

1210
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: really poor because they were they were defending twenty percent

1211
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: more plays than any other defense in the league. You know,

1212
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: he's face more plays, he's going to give up more yards.

1213
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: So it all goes hand in glove statistically with when

1214
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: you got a guy like Josh, you've got an offense

1215
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: as productive as it was last year, both in the

1216
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: run and the pass and on the scoreboard. You're you're

1217
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: in a different You're in a different game than some

1218
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: of the other defenses in the league.

1219
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that. Uh aight O three

1220
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1221
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: That's the number to jump on board with us. As

1222
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: we're asking you, what do you hope to hear coming

1223
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: out of the OTA practices about the Bills. Maybe there's

1224
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: a position group you want to hear is tearing it up.

1225
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: Maybe it's an individual player that you want to know

1226
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 2: how he's doing, or you're hopeful that the guy looks

1227
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 2: loaded for bear for the twenty twenty five season. You'll

1228
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: let us know what that is. Aight, O three five fifty.

1229
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: I guess we should chime in on what we think.

1230
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: Sure for me at this time of year, you know,

1231
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: certainly you're not going to say, yeah, the passing game's clicking,

1232
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: and you know none of that's going on. But what

1233
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: you do I think most commonly want to hear about.

1234
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: I want to hear like I want to Keon Coleman

1235
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: is absolutely killing it. I mean, nobody can cover him.

1236
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: Maxwell Harriston is wowing people with his athleticism. You know,

1237
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: the defensive line is just dominant. They're just unbelieve you know,

1238
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I want to hear it. And

1239
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: when I say defense or offensive line, that kind of

1240
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: means one one person or one guy, one group. But

1241
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: I want to hear individuals who have shown up and

1242
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: are crushing it, you know invariably. I mean you can

1243
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: go back, of course, remember, but you know, sometimes you

1244
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: see a guy get blown up in the preseason and

1245
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: it ends up getting injured and you never get a

1246
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: chance to see him. But I that's when this time

1247
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: of years when you want to hear about a guy

1248
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: who is taking a step and the guys who know

1249
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: him best, his position, coaches, his teammates are like going, dude,

1250
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: what happened to you? It happens once a while.

1251
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 2: That's fun, right, I would say for me, I'm kind

1252
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: of curious how the pecking order shakes out on the

1253
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: defensive front. You've got a lot of new pieces there

1254
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: are both free agency and draft. Granted the free agent

1255
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: pieces will miss the first six games, Ogunjobi and Hoyt,

1256
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 2: But I'm curious to see how that peck order works

1257
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 2: itself out, you know, in terms of who it's looking

1258
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: more and more alike will be the vast majority of

1259
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: the eight player rotation. And we probably won't get a

1260
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: handle on that and until we'll probably into our second

1261
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 2: week of training camp, So I don't know. For OTAs,

1262
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: I guess I would say, I hope to see that

1263
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: begin to take shape. So we have some semblance of

1264
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: an idea. And I guess what I'm hoping to hear

1265
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 2: most about that is that some of these young guys

1266
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: that they just drafted are going to be a part

1267
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: of that rotation right from the jump.

1268
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: I think that I mentioned an article I read earlier

1269
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 1: today about Aaron Glenn and he said, you can't share

1270
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: it shy away from young players. You gotta play them,

1271
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: and they're ready to go. You gotta play him. We'll

1272
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: take the best players available, even if they're thirty plus.

1273
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: But you can't shy away from a guy just because

1274
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: he's young. That's the fun part about this. We just

1275
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: went through the whole draft process and all of that

1276
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: and who they picked, and everybody's really happy with the

1277
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: On face value, the Bills draft look great. I mean

1278
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: really it was. It's like I said, it scratched an

1279
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: itch that all of us were feelings like, Wow, we

1280
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: got some good guys right where we needed them. You

1281
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: want to you really you want to hear those guys

1282
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: doing well. You want to hear that it's gonna make

1283
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: a difference. You gotta say, wow, that's we're on it.

1284
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: A lot of times you hear that in it's and it's,

1285
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, coach speak. But if you're gonna

1286
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: hear anything out of training camp, you want to hear

1287
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: it from the players and the coaches, the guys who

1288
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: see these guys every day that they're different in some way,

1289
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: shape or form.

1290
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you kind of forget sometimes when you have

1291
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: a ninety man roster how many players they've got here,

1292
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Speaker 2: because you got like seventeen defensive linemen, sixteen offensive linemen,

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Speaker 2: And I've said it before. I mean, I think what

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01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: they have depth wise for the offensive line is an

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01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 2: embarrassment of riches, and the defensive line could prove to

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Speaker 2: be that too, provided some of these rookie players come

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Speaker 2: along and are quick on the uptake, Because I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're looking at the depth chart and it's like, I'm

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Speaker 2: on the third team and I still kind of like

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01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: the potential of this guy, right, you know, I don't know,

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: I get excited about that because it's a good problem

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01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: to have. Granted, it won't make for easy decisions when

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01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: they get to the end of August, but it puts

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01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: the team in a good position, especially should injuries strike.

1305
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: Like one of the callers said earlier, I don't want

1306
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: any injuries, well, nobody does, but they're inevitable in this sport.

1307
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: And so if you've insulated yourself the way I believe

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01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: Brandon being in his personnel department have with this roster,

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01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: I think they afford themselves a lot of soft landings

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Speaker 2: at some positions in the event that injury does strike.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know injury is going to strike. It always does.

1312
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: It's inevitable, and you can't get around it if you

1313
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: look at the way the roster is made up, and

1314
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Speaker 1: if you say it's defensive backs, they've got eighteen defensive backs,

1315
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: safeties and corners because five of them play at a

1316
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: time in this defense. The defensive lineman tackles and edge,

1317
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Speaker 1: you've got seventeen, as Brownie said, offensive lineman you got

1318
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Speaker 1: sixteen because five at a time play, and wide receiver thirteen.

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01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: Those are your four defense. Those are the four positions

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Speaker 1: you got to get right. Your defensive backfield, your offensive

1321
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: and defensive line, and your receivers. Those are the ones

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Speaker 1: that are difference makers. And that's where the bulk of

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Speaker 1: the roster is. Yet you know over fifty guys in

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Speaker 1: those groups.

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Speaker 2: I mean the other part of the team that we

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Speaker 2: need to see take shape because I think its final

1327
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: form will be different than what we saw last year

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Speaker 2: or at the end of last year, is the secondary.

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Speaker 2: I think the only sure thing there is probably j

1330
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Speaker 2: Benford and Tarren Johnson. And then beyond that, I think

1331
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 2: you have safety candidates that are going to push last

1332
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: year's starters, namely Taylor Rapp and DeMar Hamlin. I think

1333
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 2: Bishop's going to push for a starting role. And then

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Speaker 2: whether it's a free agent addition, like Derek Forrest or

1335
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 2: maybe there's some kind of a role for you know,

1336
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Speaker 2: the rookie from Ohio State, you know, Hankockkas Yeah, we'll see, yeah,

1337
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 2: but there's a lot to be ironed out there.

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Speaker 1: Sixty five guys are in four position groups offense of

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01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: a defensive line, defensive backfield, and wide receiver group. The

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01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: front and the edges of the of the offense, the

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01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: both ends of the offense front and back or inside

1342
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: outside as if you will, and the defense, the front

1343
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: and the back. Most of the roster is right there,

1344
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: and that's where really you're going to see most of

1345
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: the competent tis. There's really like, there's only five running

1346
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: backs in the building. One of them is a fullback

1347
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: in Reggie Gilliam. Yeah, same thing. Tight ends. There's five

1348
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: tight ends in the building. That's it. That's all you get.

1349
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: It's not going to change too much.

1350
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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at eight oh three

1351
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 2: oh five fifty and we go to Mark and West

1352
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Speaker 2: senecon next. What's up Mark, Hey, Brownie, hey's Steve Holly today,

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01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: Good Brownie?

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01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 12: Great mindstick to like you always steel my thunder talking

1355
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 12: about the DBS and I got a little bit of

1356
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 12: a question for Steve as far as what he's talking about,

1357
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 12: what he wants to see. But anyway, I think, especially defensively,

1358
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 12: the key to our season is going to be the

1359
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 12: debat the DBS. For this reason. Obviously, Hairston and Hancock

1360
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 12: and Strong I think are going to factor in big time.

1361
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 12: I think they're going to make the roster. Obviously, Hairston

1362
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 12: well and I think are gonna pay a lot. And

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Speaker 12: I think they're important because the guys we have up front,

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01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 12: they're athleticism. Once they get uh set settled in, they're

1365
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 12: gonna do they'll they'll do okay. But in today's NFL,

1366
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 12: quarterbacks get rid of the ball quickly and a lot

1367
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 12: of times with the intention of nullifying the pass rush.

1368
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 12: And we need guys that can stick and coverage. And

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01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 12: I think that's why they're gonna make such a big

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01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 12: difference if they can do that. And it's gonna be

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01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 12: a big, big determination as far as how we go

1372
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Speaker 12: in the playoffs because I expect to be there obviously,

1373
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 12: And Steve, just just a question as far as Uh

1374
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 12: dis arning in camp obviously, real quick to get back

1375
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 12: to the DBS. I want to hear that they're comprehending

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 12: what they're throwing at them. And I know it's early

1377
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 12: and there hasn't been a lot of install but whatever

1378
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 12: we are throwing at them, I want to hear that

1379
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 12: the young guys are comprehending it quickly. That's really what

1380
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 12: I'm looking or I think their athleticism will factor in eventually,

1381
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 12: but I want to know that they know what they're doing.

1382
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 12: And as far as dominating Steve, like you said, here

1383
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 12: there wherever, what position do you think that's mainly because

1384
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 12: of the athleticism of these guys so early in camp,

1385
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 12: or because obviously there's always talk when you know what

1386
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 12: you're doing your place far and you're able to use

1387
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 12: your athleticism more so, is that what shows up in

1388
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 12: the earth in these early OTAs more often than anything else.

1389
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Speaker 12: That that's basically my question with that.

1390
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks y, you bet, Thanks Mark. It's interesting.

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: It depends. There's a lot of There's a lot of

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01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: layers to this too, because you get different messaging, and

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01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: you get different messaging for different reasons. You'll hear a

1394
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: team pumping the guy's tires, uh, because he's fast and

1395
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: he plays fast and all that and then you'll hear

1396
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: the occasionally, you know, when he makes a mistake, he

1397
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: does it a one hundred miles an hour and you

1398
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: know whatever, or that kind of thing when you it's

1399
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: hard to come in as a first year player not

1400
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: make mistakes because it's complicated the NFL. It's a complicated game.

1401
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: So things things catch my ear. When team's same like that,

1402
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: never makes the same mistake twice, that's kind of that's

1403
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 1: a good sign. It means the guy's playing hard, not

1404
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: afraid to make mistakes, learns from them and moves on

1405
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: and gets better. That's always good. You really it's hard

1406
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: to you don't hear that much about a guy who's

1407
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: really smart. Sometimes you do, Like Benford, we heard that

1408
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: about not Yeah, we heard that about Benford when he

1409
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: came in. Said wow that he picked it up quick

1410
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: and he he wasn't even on the field his first year, remember,

1411
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, I agree with that. You want to

1412
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: get smart football players. Smart football players learn fast and

1413
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: they can play loose and free because they know what

1414
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: they're doing. So yeah, that's a that's a excellent message.

1415
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: You'd love to hear from this. The one thing you

1416
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: know with this coaching staff. When a guy you've never

1417
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: heard of starts moving up the depth chart, it's because

1418
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: he's really smart and it's comprehending it Allah, Christian Benford.

1419
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, a few years ago. Right, let's get back to

1420
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 2: the phones and squeeze in Patrick and Lewiston before we

1421
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 2: go to break. What's up?

1422
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 7: Patrick, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Sure, Steve, Steve,

1423
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 7: I'm going to talk about with training camp and things

1424
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 7: like that back in your day, who is the guy

1425
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 7: that you remember, either from when you first started or

1426
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 7: on the bills obviously that was like Wow, this guy

1427
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 7: is so talented, so you know, physically gifted, but just

1428
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 7: never made it in the pros. You know, just a

1429
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 7: guy that you're like, wow, this guy cannot ever you know,

1430
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 7: not be an All Pro and then just never made

1431
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 7: it for one reason or another. And then my second

1432
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 7: question is who was the second year players the defensive

1433
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 7: line or whoever would is kind of oft shuffle with

1434
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 7: a new draft picks sort of thing. Else do you

1435
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 7: think is going to maybe make a step or make

1436
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 7: the team even.

1437
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: Good question? You want to take that first one, Steve.

1438
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: The guy that I always remember just being unbelievable when

1439
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: he showed up and everybody's like, who is that guy?

1440
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 3: Was?

1441
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: Mark Maddox a linebacker? Fifty five came out. He was unbelievable.

1442
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: Everybody's heads were turning at him. He was very fast,

1443
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: very physical, He's big enough, big enough to play lineback,

1444
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: stand up linebacker, and was absolutely running guys down all

1445
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: over the field. And he seemed to see it as well.

1446
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: You know, he was ahead of the play mentally was

1447
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: he was unbelievable. And he got an ACL in his

1448
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: rookie training camp and got another one the next year. Now,

1449
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: he did have a nice career, no question about it.

1450
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: But that's a guy that when he first showed up, man,

1451
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: I was the guy was you know, we were looking

1452
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: at him as you know, getting a gold Jack. I mean,

1453
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: he was unbelievable. I mean he was like it was.

1454
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: The whole camp was a buzz. And then he got

1455
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: injured and then got injured again. So that's a guy

1456
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: that you're talking about that I could mention on. What

1457
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: else was the other thing?

1458
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: So he's talking about second year players that kind of

1459
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: got lost in the shuffle. Steve kind of pointed this

1460
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: out when we were out there watching practice. But Dwayne

1461
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: Carter comes to mind, a guy that was starting to

1462
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 2: flash as early as Week five, then busts his wrist

1463
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 2: and really doesn't play much the rest of the season,

1464
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 2: and by the end of the year was a healthy

1465
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 2: and active because they were leaning on the veteran players

1466
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: a little bit more at that point in time. But

1467
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: I would put him in that category. And I would

1468
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 2: say Cole Bishop is another guy that I think if

1469
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: he does everything the right way, he's going to be

1470
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: starting by the time we get to September at the

1471
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 2: safety position. And then Ray Davis, I mean, James Cook

1472
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: is not here. Ray Davis is taking advantage. So I

1473
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 2: think that's a guy who did an awful lot for

1474
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: this team as a rookie last year. I think he's

1475
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 2: got the potential to do even more, especially with more

1476
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: reps coming his way in the absence of James Cook.

1477
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can get your mind a out of

1478
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: look at think about yourself as Dwayne Carter. You had

1479
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 1: a pretty good year. You were draft pick, made the roster,

1480
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: We're kind of starting to play good, got a bad

1481
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: luck with injury, then couldn't get back on the field.

1482
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: Now in the offseason, you're getting ready to training and stuff,

1483
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: and your team drafts three guys.

1484
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: Including two of the play defensive.

1485
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: Take exactly your position. Yeah, that's that's a hard morning

1486
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: to wake up to.

1487
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

1488
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: So that's a guy like that. So we'll see. It's

1489
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: those kind of things happen and you got to get

1490
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: your mind around it.

1491
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 2: Ye, break time for us here when we come back.

1492
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: Joining us in studio will be Tree Davius White takeaway

1493
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 2: Trey on his second stint with the Buffalo Bills. He'll

1494
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 2: be joining us next here on One Bill's Live presented

1495
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: by a Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1496
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 3: All right.

1497
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1498
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 2: and joining us in the studio as mentioned one Tradavious White,

1499
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: as he is here for stint number two in Buffalo. Uh,

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01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: I'm sure your phone blew up when that first happened,

1501
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: like because there is there is a special affinity in

1502
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 2: in Bill's fans hearts for one Trudevious White. You know,

1503
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: I'm sure you felt that right off the jump when

1504
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 2: that when everything went down, right.

1505
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 13: Oh for sure, I knew immediately once the once the uh,

1506
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 13: the news broke that pretty much you know, my phone

1507
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 13: was gonna go crazy, uh, with family members, friends, old teammates,

1508
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 13: just the the love that I got over the first

1509
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 13: few days. It was just something that, you know, that

1510
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 13: I'll never forget. Obviously, it was something that I wanted.

1511
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 13: I wanted to wanted to come back here, you know,

1512
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 13: in the back end of my career and do it

1513
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 13: with people that I really legitimate care about and have

1514
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 13: genuine relationships with as friends off the field.

1515
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: So fau Famously, you get back in and the quarterback

1516
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: didn't know they'd resigned until you see you strung.

1517
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 2: Through the room, Like what does that happen? He's been

1518
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 2: a little off the bridge.

1519
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: You gotta tip your hat to Josh for like disconnecting,

1520
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: because you got to be completely off the radar. Not

1521
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: still Bill signed.

1522
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 13: It was good, but look so so he saw me

1523
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 13: in the locker room, He's like, how you doing. It's

1524
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 13: just like he was just so surprised. So Jeff told

1525
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 13: me that he came came over to him. It's like,

1526
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,799
Speaker 13: did we really sign? Trade back dressed like yeah, you're Simron.

1527
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 13: So I saw him and brotherly hugged. It's so missed

1528
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 13: him a lot, you know what I mean, just being

1529
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 13: on the other side, obviously, just seeing the success he

1530
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 13: had last year being an MVP.

1531
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I saw the big hug you guys shared

1532
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: on the field before the playoff game last year pregame

1533
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 2: You're coming out here with the Ravens and like it's

1534
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: just like you could just like you know when you

1535
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 2: see hugs and they look like the for lack of

1536
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: a better term, half as like I'm just doing this

1537
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: to be Yes, that was not that, that was like

1538
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 2: genuine love, like you could just you could just see it,

1539
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, Like that's I think

1540
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: that's part of the reason you wanted to be back here,

1541
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 2: right because that exists here in plentiful supply, oh for sure.

1542
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 13: And you know, I'm not the first person that the

1543
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 13: first player that says this.

1544
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be the last.

1545
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,799
Speaker 13: It's just this is a special place, man, And obviously

1546
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 13: you want to play. Like I said before a few

1547
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 13: weeks ago, my goal was to always play play under

1548
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 13: one team, sure, and do it at a high level.

1549
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 13: But uh, that plan didn't go as as I wanted

1550
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 13: to go, out of my control because of the injuries.

1551
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 13: But I gotta I got a chance to rewrite it

1552
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 13: and I'm gonna do it, do it the right way

1553
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 13: to around.

1554
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: And you know I because I played on a couple

1555
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: of different teams as well. But there are a lot

1556
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: of guys in LA Baltimore You've got a lot of

1557
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,839
Speaker 1: love and respect for and so kind of comparing contrast.

1558
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: There's good organizations all around them, not all of them,

1559
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: but there's just a handful, right, more than a handful.

1560
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: And you got a chance to play for some pretty

1561
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: respected organizations in LA and of course in Baltimore, who

1562
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: has been competitive ever since Harball got there. Right, give

1563
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: us a little compared and contrast about what players say

1564
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: about Buffalo away from Buffalo and some of the stuff

1565
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: you can share with us about what it's like to

1566
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: go away, have some success, go to another team, be

1567
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: in a playoff atmosphere, and you know, then make it

1568
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: back here. Well, I'd be completely honest.

1569
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 13: Everything was so foreign to me just you know, leaving

1570
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 13: this place because I'm such a routine based guy. So

1571
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 13: it's like I have all my people in place, I

1572
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 13: have my my chiropractice, I have my science therapy, I

1573
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 13: have you know, my train is just everything at my disposal,

1574
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 13: that at my disposal, that I've created over the first

1575
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 13: seven years of my career.

1576
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: Like, those are things that.

1577
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 13: If I'm not I get big bad anxiety when that

1578
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 13: schedule is not on this track that I see, it's

1579
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 13: not set. So once I go to a new place.

1580
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: I got to figure out how this out.

1581
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 13: I got to find new people, find new people I trust,

1582
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 13: because I'm very particularly about that. So you got to

1583
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 13: find people your trust. And then it's just I could

1584
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 13: never get in the group. Then I was rehabbing, trying

1585
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 13: to get learning a new defense, going into a defensive

1586
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 13: system where I'm talking about LA, going into a system

1587
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 13: where it's like it's the DC's first shot at being

1588
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 13: a DC. He's trying to find the cause, he's trying

1589
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 13: to find what works for the group. And then it's

1590
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 13: a young defense. And then I'm coming off this injury.

1591
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 13: I can't give them what they need me to give

1592
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 13: them because I'm trying to find myself and get myself

1593
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 13: back too. So that LA experience, as far as like

1594
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 13: on the field, it wasn't. It wasn't a time because

1595
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 13: I feel like I just couldn't give that group. It

1596
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 13: was a young, young group. I couldn't give them that

1597
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 13: veteran presence that I that I needed because I was

1598
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 13: so busy rehabbing Wordy by myself and not going out

1599
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 13: there and getting as many reps as I could because

1600
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 13: I'm just trying to rehab this thing, trying to make sure,

1601
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 13: trying to manage it, push it a little bit, but

1602
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 13: still manage it. So that wasn't But as far as

1603
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 13: off the field, just like around the building, just the

1604
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 13: people there that great. Everything was great, they experienced everything

1605
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 13: was great. I was able to, you know, go to

1606
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 13: a different organization see how they run things and just

1607
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 13: see different players, going to a different locker room and

1608
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 13: see just like how other people. Yeah, just the dynamic

1609
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 13: on a day to day basis, how the players react,

1610
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 13: interact with each other and stuff like that. And then

1611
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 13: getting the Baltimore it was just more of more of

1612
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 13: the same, Like it's just like a it's a real

1613
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 13: strict environment in Baltimore, Like they practiced really hard like

1614
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 13: Harvard Hearts. Really it's like it's gonna be just one

1615
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 13: way and we're gonna do it, and we're gonna do

1616
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 13: it this every day and it's gonna we're gonna hammer

1617
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 13: it and we're gonna we're gonna practice at it and

1618
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 13: you know it built. It gave me an appreciation for

1619
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 13: just like the process, because I've learned, like, Okay, this

1620
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 13: team does it this way. This team does it this way,

1621
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 13: and the Bills did it this way. But it's more

1622
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 13: than one way to skin a cat because obviously LA

1623
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 13: doing it right. They've been in two Super Bowls and

1624
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,879
Speaker 13: let In previ in one one. And Baltimore has always

1625
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 13: been competitive in Buffalo. We've come along over the years,

1626
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 13: so now we here too, so it's different ways. But

1627
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 13: I was just so used to the way that we

1628
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 13: did it here that it was hard for me to

1629
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 13: get that eye of head.

1630
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: It was just it was so hard. But also where

1631
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: your comparison comes from. Iah knew how successful you were

1632
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 1: personally here in Buffalo. You think, Okay, how's it compare

1633
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: both LA and Baltimore. This was your first comparison.

1634
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, so, And you know, obviously it was great for

1635
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 13: me because a lot of guys that I respected over

1636
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 13: the time of me playing in this league, playing against

1637
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 13: in college, I was able to go in the locker

1638
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 13: room with them and see how they do the things

1639
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,959
Speaker 13: on day to day based other great players. Matthew Stafford,

1640
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 13: Cooper Cup. We can go Bottomore, Lamar Jackson, Martin Humphreys, Hamilton.

1641
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: Derick Henry, like they fly.

1642
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 13: You could just keep going, Calvin Nor like Rokawann Smith.

1643
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 13: Like it's just so many great players. So it was

1644
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 13: just like I was able to just go and observe

1645
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 13: and see, like, Okay, this guy like this, if you

1646
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 13: want to do it, the be great at this. Like

1647
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 13: you see Rokawann Smith. He knows everything about the whole offense.

1648
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 13: He's calling out players on the field. So it's just

1649
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 13: like I'm seeing like greatness and it's just like, Okay,

1650
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 13: what can I do take a little bit from this guy?

1651
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 13: This guy even though I've been in the league a

1652
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 13: long time, I have my but I can never stop learning.

1653
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 2: So last one for you here because Brandon being mentioned this,

1654
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: Soudier coach McK deurmott, they you know, just based on

1655
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 2: watching your tape towards the end of last season, they

1656
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: felt that you kind of cleared that rehab hurdles. So

1657
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 2: and a lot of times it takes guys like a

1658
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: full year to kind of get back into the groove.

1659
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 2: Like you were just talking about, like it was hard

1660
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: for you to find that groove where you were just

1661
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,799
Speaker 2: playing and only worrying about playing. So do you feel

1662
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 2: that that hurdle was cleared? Like, do you feel coming

1663
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 2: into this, you know, spring and training camp and preseason,

1664
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 2: that you're in a place where you're just focused on playing.

1665
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: You're not worried so much about managing all the things

1666
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 2: that were part of your rehab plan. Oh, for sure.

1667
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 13: This I was just telling this to I think I

1668
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,560
Speaker 13: was telling this to Tearing, a couple of my teammates,

1669
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 13: you know, Tearing and Dane and I we talked a lot,

1670
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 13: like you really talk. So this is the first off

1671
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 13: season that I have where I'm not worried about rehabbing

1672
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 13: my knee my achilles like this the first time and

1673
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 13: maybe since four years.

1674
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1675
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 13: Well, I could just focus on my body and not

1676
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 13: focus on one thing. And it's just taking me away

1677
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 13: from getting rest with my teammates, just going out there

1678
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 13: doing the walk throughs. I'm not in the training room

1679
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 13: just on the table, just getting rubbed on and just

1680
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 13: doing stuff. For this one particular part, I could work

1681
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 13: on the whole thing. So now I know what a

1682
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 13: full off season looks like for me. I know when

1683
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 13: I put the work and I'm able to do the

1684
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 13: things that I want to do as far as like

1685
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 13: my off season program, going back to the basics.

1686
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 3: I'm able to do that now. Feel good.

1687
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 13: It's gonna be a great year.

1688
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: So hopefully it'll be a less chaotic here than the

1689
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: experienced last year because you're bumping around from LA to Multimore. Yeah,

1690
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: and you're back home and spread your wings. Man, it'd

1691
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: be great to see you out there.

1692
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 13: Oh, it's gonna be great just me getting back, just

1693
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 13: walking through those doors. Man, Like my appreciation level is

1694
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 13: on another level. Just seeing familiar faces and people that

1695
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 13: embrace me as much as I embrace them when I

1696
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 13: see them. It's just something that I don't take like.

1697
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: The feeling is mutual. It's great to have you back.

1698
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: We are unfortunately out of time. We can talk to

1699
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 2: you all the afternoon, but we do have to take

1700
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 2: a break here, So Trey, thanks for stopping, but I

1701
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: will and it's keeping a close eye out there on

1702
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 2: the field. Good luck to you in terms of putting

1703
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 2: it all together. Tre as White joining us here on

1704
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live. Will take a break. Be back with

1705
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: our final segment next. Stay tuned. A good conversation there

1706
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 2: with Trey White. If you missed it, you can always

1707
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: check the rerack of our show on the bottom of

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01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 2: the homepage Buffalo Bills dot com usually is posted there

1709
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: by about a half hour after our show concludes, or

1710
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 2: you can check it out on the YouTube channel. It

1711
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 2: was a good chat with Trey and kind of really

1712
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: effectively painted the picture of what last year was like

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01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: for him. Quick some final thoughts on the What you're

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01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 2: hoping to hear from OTA is about the bills on

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01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems,

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01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,879
Speaker 2: official equipment moving company. In the Buffalo Bills from Bay Bills,

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01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 2: they're hoping to hear excitement about rookie performances and big

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01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 2: steps forward from the sophomores. Jack says that Coleman and

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01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 2: Kincaid look good and both are ready to take the

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01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 2: next step and become the premier weapons they were drafted

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01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: to be. Also, with both on the sideline already and

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01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: June first fast approaching, is it possible someone could shake

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01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 2: looseid defense of n and be added to help the

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01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 2: pass rush. A lot of people are really interested in

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01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: the second and third year guys taking the next.

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01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: But because I was going to say that it's the

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01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: youth you really want to hear is doing well. But

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01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: I would submit that you're ready to hear good things

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01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: about any player on the roster.

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01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 2: Could there be a June first cut?

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01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 3: Sure?

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01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 2: Are the Bills in a position where they want to

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01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 2: add that player. They're pretty heavy at D line right now.

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01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to have no room

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Speaker 2: on the roster. That's it for us today. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow at one