1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: I listen to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen ahhut. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of The Black Guy Who 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: Tells Podcast. I'm your host, Rod, joined as always by 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: my co host, and we are live on a Monday. 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: Ready to do some podcast and find us everywhere that 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: you find podcasts. Search The Black Guy Who Tips. Tell 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: your friends about it. Leave us five star reviews on 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts. 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: We love those. It makes us feel good when we 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: see them. We work hard. 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: The official weapon of the show is phone champ and 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: the unofficial sport and bulletballic scream. 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: All right, we're here. Let's get into the show. Caaren 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: you have any banter or anything? 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: All right, no banter. I don't think I have any. 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: I can't remember what I wrote down at this point, 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: losing track. Let me see, nope, nothing, all right, Well, 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: let's just get into some straight up segments and news 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: Let's see. 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: Let's start with uh, let's start some l g B 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: t Q news. 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 4: Let me see what you want to be. You better 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 4: move your body, you better move your feet, and I 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 4: want to grow. Show me what's cool writing caring babes. 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 4: L g B t Q news. 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: I'm still shining. 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: L g Q. 30 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: All right, you know what this is. 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna go around read some articles that are affecting 32 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: the l g B t Q people in our in 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: our world. We're gonna give our opinions on them. Most 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: of the news is bad, yes it is, but it 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: is it is. Uh, let's talk about some good news. 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: Gretchen Whitmer, big gretch. She signs a bill banning gay 37 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: or trans panic defense. 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 5: Yes, because it's stupid. 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: Finally, somebody I didn't know you could do this, shout 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: out the big gretch. Yeah, it's it's so interesting, man, 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: because the only people that do stuff like this in 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: our country that are elected are Democrats. So you know, 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: I know this segment turns into a voting thing every time. 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: But one thing this segment does constantly remind me of 45 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: is the people who are fighting a good fight are 46 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: the people that are on the side of liberty and 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: democrats and real liberty, not the word of liberty only 48 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: for the progressive. 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: And so. 50 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: A bill like this, sadly it shouldn't be needed common 51 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: sense wise, because most of a trans panic defense is 52 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: it's just using transphobia, using homophobia to say I can 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: kill somebody for coming on to me if they're the 54 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: same gender or if they're a trans person. So basically, 55 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: for those that don't know transpanic gay panic, what it 56 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: means is this happens all the time. Someone kills a 57 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: trans person, someone kills a gay person. They will then 58 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: say and like it's in a hotel room, police show up, 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: they find a dead body of what the fuck happened? 60 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: They find a culprit later, and the person will often 61 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: use the defense of, oh, this person, I'm not gay, 62 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: I'm not trans attracted, but this trans person either tricked 63 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: me or this gay guy tricked me under the hospices 64 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: of friendship or hanging out, and then they came on 65 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: to me, and then my caveman. 66 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: Brain kicked in and I couldn't help myself. 67 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: I had to kill them, right because and I should 68 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: legally not be responsible or at least have the sentence 69 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: reduced down a lot, because if a gay person makes 70 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: a pass at you, that just makes you want to 71 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: kill him, and that's just acceptable, and so obviously that's bullshit. 72 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: One of the reasons you know that's a bullshit defense 73 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: is because you know who else makes a lot of 74 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: un wanted advances on people man. 75 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 5: All of the fucking time. 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: You know what, It's the defense I've never seen successfully 77 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: used anywhere a man came on to a woman to 78 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: sist people. But I guess it could go the other 79 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: way too, because you could even say this like a 80 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: straight assists man came on to a gay man, or 81 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: assists man came on to a transperson. Never seen this defense. 82 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: Tried it out like, oh, this man made a pass. 83 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 2: I mean I had to kill him. I'm just a 84 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: woman walking down the street. 85 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: I'm just getting gassed. I had to kill him. I 86 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: was scared. 87 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know what he wanted, or we were in 88 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: a hotel room alone. 89 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: I didn't know. I just killed him. 90 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: I thought we were just gonna be hanging out or 91 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: watching Netflix. I didn't know he was trying to Netflix 92 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: and chill. 93 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: I killed him. 94 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: That's not a defense you ever see. Tried it out 95 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: because it wouldn't work. But yet we allow. But the 96 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: phobia gave homophobia transphobia, We allow that to be the 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: norm whenever we let laws, when we let that defense exist. 98 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, shout out to big Gretch. 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 100 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 5: And also the thing is, whenever they do their investigations 101 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 5: a lot of times, not about ninety five percent of 102 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: the time the person knew. Yeah, the person had a 103 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: personal relationship. This is not the first time they got up. 104 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 5: This is not a stranger to them. A lot of 105 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 5: it was something happened publicly, They got embarrassed, like something happened. 106 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 3: Where people gonna find out whatever. 107 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: And then for those of you that are still reluctant 108 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: listening to this, like, yeah, but it could happen, It 109 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: could happen. Here's what I would say. We have laws 110 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: on the books for everything you're saying could happen. So 111 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: if you're saying this person was going to sexually assault me, 112 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: I had to defend myself from being sexually assaulted, and 113 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: in that defense, I killed this person. We already have 114 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: that level of self defense on the books. So that's 115 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: not what these people are arguing. They're arguing, the person 116 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: made a pass at me, even I went straight to 117 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: kill kill this person. That should be a legally acceptable 118 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: defense in the eyes of the law, is what that 119 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: side is saying. So yeah, she took it out. 120 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 121 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: On Tuesday, she signed a slate of thirty nine bills 122 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: in the law. The legislation is sponsored by bisexual. 123 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: State Rep. Larie Pahutsky. 124 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: States that in the criminal in criminal trials, evidence of 125 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: the discovery of knowledge about or potential disclosure of an 126 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: individual's actual or perceived sex, gender identity, or gender expression, 127 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: or sexual orientation is not admissible for the purposes of 128 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: demonstrating reasonable provocation, showing that a criminal act was committed 129 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: in the heat of passion, or to support a defense 130 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: of reduced mental capacity. 131 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: Now, because that's the thing, I just went crazy. 132 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: Notwithstanding the provision of any other law of the state, 133 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 2: an individual is not justified in using force against another 134 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: individual based on the discovery of knowledge about or potential 135 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: disclosure of the victim's actual, perceived sex, gender identity, gender expression, 136 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: or sexual orientation. It is another thing that happens as 137 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: caring about it. A lot of times people know. So 138 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: then what happens is other people find out. Now that 139 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: person pretends or starts going, I do she what she's 140 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: a tran she trans and they go and kill the 141 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: person because they're embarrassed at the homes found out or whatever. Right, 142 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: And then their defense is, I was just in a 143 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: state of shock and outrage and got I should be 144 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: allowed to kill this person. Because I was so upset 145 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: that they quote unquote tricked me, which is one of 146 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: the reasons I don't talk about tricking and all that 147 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: shit like that, cause it's just a very loaded term 148 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: that is most mostly being used to nullify the the 149 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: rights to life and liberty for people. So yeah, it's 150 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: just it was I'm big shot out to big gretch. 151 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. 152 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: Uh, let's see, uh GOP judges block Biden's protections for 153 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: LGBTQ plus students. 154 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 5: Of course they did. 155 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is the big game for Trump. 156 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: Two Republican appointed judges in Texas blocked enforcement of the 157 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: Biden Administration's anti discrimination protections for LGBTQ plus students under 158 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: Title nine last week. 159 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 5: UH. 160 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: The US Department of Education in April unveiled new rules 161 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: that interpret Title nine's prohibition of discrimination on the basis 162 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: of sex as including anti LGBTQ plus discrimination. The rules 163 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: rely on the Supreme Court twenty twenty decision both Stopped 164 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: versus Clayton County, which found that Title nine's ban on 165 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: sex based discrimination in the workplace necessarily covers discrimination on 166 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. So the 167 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: new rules are set to go in effect August first, 168 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: just ahead of the upcoming school year, but in nearly 169 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: some simultaneous decisions, last Thursday, US District Court judges Matthew 170 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: CAx Marik and Reed O'Connor both blocked the Biden administration's 171 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: rules based on strict interpretations of Title nine is only 172 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: being intended to protect cis gender women and girls. This 173 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: is one of the reasons that I have to push 174 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 2: back and I don't accept the logic of people that 175 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: do the like, we're just trying to protect our girls. 176 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: Man, it's about women. It's about girls. 177 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 2: It's about Women's about girls because it's not, but people 178 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: will accept that reason and like, yeah, it must be. 179 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: But it's aboute harassing trans people, it's about harassing LGBTQ people. 180 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: It's about making sure that they can still be discriminated against. 181 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: That's what it's about, because why would you give a fuck? 182 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: What like, what is this necessary? What is the threat 183 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: to girls by the fact that we're like, you should 184 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: not be able to discriminate against LGBTQ people. 185 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's also a problem too because a lot 186 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 5: of times the cists hit women end up being impacted too. 187 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 5: Like the whole group ends up being impacted. But like 188 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 5: I said, by you trying to target somebody else, assist 189 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 5: hit woman ends up being the victim of something and 190 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 5: end up being harassed more than they probably already were 191 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 5: because they're a woman. Like everybody's being harassed, So now 192 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 5: the harassment for everybody goes up when you make these 193 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 5: fucked up ass rules. So they're not actually trying to 194 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 5: quote unquote protect the group that you are protecting. Because 195 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 5: when you make these rules and you say, I wan't 196 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: like like you know, fairness across the board, you're actually 197 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: protecting the girls that you claimed that you care about, 198 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: you're actually protecting them and everybody else. So doing this 199 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: is almost anti what you actually say you represent. 200 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so yeah, slate of judges have made rulers 201 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: like this, surprise surprise, that all have the to be 202 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: conservative judges appointed by conservative presidents. So it's just going 203 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: along party lines. Like I would be more prone to 204 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: accept this argument of it's just about protecting girls and 205 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: gender if there were like a slate of democratic elected 206 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: judges that also ruled things like this, but it's not, 207 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: and I think anytime it's only conservatives that's a very 208 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: suspicious that's very specious ground to build an argument, all 209 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: because we know what they are really about. So let's 210 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: see priests allegedly visited gay bath houses and his Grinder 211 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: data out at him. Now he's suing Grinder, a Catholic 212 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: priests who was gay because his Grinder data suggested he 213 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: was having sex with men, issuing the tech company for 214 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: millions of dollars for violating his privacy. I don't know what, monsignor, 215 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. It must be like 216 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: let's see title of various Roman Catholic positions. Okay, mon, okay, 217 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: that's new for me. Senor Jeffrey Bureau was once the 218 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: highest ranking non bishop American cleric. He took a vowed 219 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: celibacy and worked as a general secretary of the US 220 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: Conference of Catholic Bishops and an anti LGBTQ plus Catholic organization. 221 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 2: Then a conservative Catholic website named the Pillar out of 222 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: him in July twenty twenty one in the article after 223 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: allegedly obtaining Grinder data from a third party source and 224 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: tracking him to gay bath houses where he was believed 225 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: to have had sex with men for years. Man, that's 226 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: tough because on the one hand, that is a total 227 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: violelce of his privacy. 228 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: On the other hand, you're working for. 229 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: You know, this is like when a Republican gets outed 230 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, I'm head of the American Families Association. 231 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 3: We hate gay people. Also, I be fucking men all 232 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: the time. 233 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: It's like, ah, I mean, it's bad, but it's also like, motherfucker, 234 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 2: damn you want to They supposed I'm supposed to be 235 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: going to other people lives, not mine. 236 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 5: That's what basically, that's what they're saying. 237 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: So he resigned in disgrace. His lawyer asked Grinder for 238 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: five million dollars in conversation. Grinder refused, so he's now 239 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: fouled a lossit against Grinder in California Superior Court. A 240 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: legend at the popular hookup app neither protected his data 241 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: nor informed him that third party vendors could access it. 242 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: Bureau says Grinder his data policies cause him to lose 243 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: his job and inflict the significant damage to his reputation, 244 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: but Grinder has denied his allegations, saying they are based 245 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: on mischaracterizations. 246 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: Of their user data policies. 247 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: Bureau's lawyer James Carr, said that Bureau was publicly outed 248 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: as gay as a result of his data and release. 249 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: To have that decision forced out of your hands in 250 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: into the public ground is reprehensible. Gregory Helmer, another one 251 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: of Bureau's lawyer, said, we want answers so we can 252 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: use that as a waner to other Grinder users. I mean, 253 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: I definitely understand the privacy argument, and there's gonna be 254 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: other people that if this would have happened to and 255 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: they were affecting it this way, I would definitely feel 256 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: very bad about them. It's it's just hard when you 257 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: work for the Catholic Church in a specific organization that's 258 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: anti lgbt Q. 259 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 5: Yes, so they anti you. 260 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just hard. That's all. 261 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: Like it's and and and as ahead of it. By 262 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: the way, it's like one of the main people. So 263 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: not even like a man. I just needed a job. 264 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: I work at a private Catholic institution. I just try 265 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: to keep my shit on the low. I don't want 266 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: no problems. That's to me. It's different than than even 267 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: this guy. The loss of the legends that the Pillar 268 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: received the data from the Catholic laity and clergy from 269 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: for the Renewal, a Denver nonprofit that claims to help 270 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: bishops identify weaknesses and the training the priests to empower 271 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: the church to carry out his mission. But Jade Henrix, 272 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: president of the clc ARE, denied sharing information with the Pillar. 273 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: The Pillar said that's legally obtained girls data from a 274 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: vendor who was selling anayymized data from Grinder sold in 275 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: the quarters with the terms of service. The data allegedly 276 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: didn't include names of pictures the user, but Grinder signs 277 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: a unique number to each phone and tracks timestamp location 278 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: data based on GPS signals. The data is then aggregated 279 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: and sold. 280 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: Damn yeah yeah. 281 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 5: I can see them being like, hey, doll, hey, like 282 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 5: you have too much information about people to these third 283 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 5: parties and then just expecting it to be all good. 284 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 5: Like it's fucked up what they did, Don't get me wrong, 285 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 5: that's fucked up. But not only is this going to 286 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 5: impact them, this is going to impact other people and 287 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 5: like regular as people who like just living their best 288 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: lives and all of a sudden, shit like this come 289 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 5: out because somebody do some investigation. Next thing you know, 290 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 5: you're on the fucking list that you didn't expect to 291 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: be on. 292 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a horrible example, but also I'm not sure 293 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: that he doesn't have a case, right. So the Pillar 294 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: identified the phone was using grinder from the USCCB staff 295 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: residents in Wisconsin from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty. Reporters 296 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: at the publication tracked that phone the Boroughs family lake house, 297 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: to the homes of his family members, and to an 298 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: apartment in his hometown where he's listed as a resident, 299 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: leading them to believe the phone belong to him and 300 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: not someone else who works there. This alleged phone also 301 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: sent a GPS signal from inside of a Las Vegas 302 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: gay bath house, as well as other bath houses in 303 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: the city that he traveled to for his work. 304 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: This data and his use of. 305 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: The app to begin with, was enough to show the 306 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: Pillar that he engaged in the serial and illicted sexual 307 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: activity because members of the Catholic clergy are not supposed 308 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: to be having sex at all. He's a priest from Wisconsin. 309 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: He worked for the USCCB starting in twenty sixteen, his 310 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: elected General secretary last year. It's a Catholic organization made 311 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: up of members of the church's hierarchy and opposes LGBTQ 312 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: plus equality. It has worked against the development of LGBTQ 313 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: plus suicide hotline Jesus That's petty as fuck, tried to 314 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: stop same sex couples from adopting children. Heavily criticized President 315 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: Joe Biden for supported LGBTQ plus rights and supported anti 316 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: trans legislation this year. 317 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: Both can be true. You could be a horrible ass 318 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 5: human being and still have your rights violated. Like, they 319 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 5: can both be true, you know, but I think a 320 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 5: lot of times people just go with fuck you. I 321 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 5: get that. But also if this was somebody you like 322 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 5: or didn't have a problem with it, you would still 323 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 5: say that's fucked up. And I am a reasonable person. 324 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 5: I'm going you're a fucked up individual, But that's fucked up. 325 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 5: That's a lot of fucking information that this third party 326 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 5: was able to get a hold of. 327 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: So Grinder wrote a blog piece in response to the lawsuit, 328 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: basically saying they don't believe they are the source of 329 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: the league in that way, and they point out three 330 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: ways that it could be somebody else, network providers data 331 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: that may have come from network providers. It is known 332 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: that the carrier has sold information like this before during 333 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: the time period covered by the blogger's work, and they 334 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 2: put three links to places that have articles about it. 335 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 3: Location data brokers is a tricky space. 336 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: In particular, one company called x Mode was identified to 337 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: be selling user location data gathered from developers who accept 338 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: the money to provide x Mode user location while on 339 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: their apps. Grinder has never partnered with xmode or any 340 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: of his competitors. This is there's potential these brokers might 341 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: link to data from source one and three AD networks. 342 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: Possible that one of our former or current partners or 343 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: one of the downstream AD partners knowingly or unknowingly is 344 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: the source of the data involved, will investigate this possibility. 345 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: So I don't know. And they also said they encrypt 346 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: their apps network communications. 347 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, I can see him going prove it then. 348 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: I mean they're going to court. They're going to court, 349 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 3: so yeah, what a wild story. 350 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean nobody obviously Grinder shouldn't want that 351 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: just because just because this. 352 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: Guy might be. 353 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: You know, on the other side of like sympathy, there's 354 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: gotta be other users that this could happen to that 355 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: it would be more. 356 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: Of a like damn, you know what I mean? 357 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: Like somebody just trying to keep their shit private because 358 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: it's a life and death situation or so. Republicans got 359 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: HIV ad spending by over four hundred million dollars in 360 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: next year's budget. 361 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: God damn, yep, yep. 362 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 5: Just affect everybody. 363 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: The yep. 364 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 2: It's not I mean, but it's like everything that affects 365 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: LGBTQ people. It's canarying the coalmon shit and people's hatred 366 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 2: and bigotry will let them think it ain't about me, 367 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: but it's about you, you know, especially black and brown people. 368 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: It's not exclusive shit, just the LGBTQ people. The House 369 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 2: Committee on Labor, Health, and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies, 370 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: which Republicans currently lead, approved to spending bill that would 371 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: cut at least four hundred and nineteen million dollars from 372 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: federal AIDS programs. A's activists say this will have devastating 373 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: impact on the ongoing efforts to decrease HIV by twenty thirty. Right, 374 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 2: the bill also includes billions of dollars and cuts to 375 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: other human services such as education and health. 376 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 5: Right, because they don't give fuck about none of this, 377 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 5: none of this. A lot of these people that's pro 378 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 5: this shit be the same people going what's wrong with 379 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 5: our schools? Be the same people talking about why my 380 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 5: BA ain't working. Be the same people talking about on 381 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 5: welfare and all these other publicly assisted funded programs by 382 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 5: the state. Be the same people fucking complain and say, 383 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 5: bit you on this shit. The fuck is wrong with you? 384 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 7: Yeah. 385 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: The thing for me is, these are the same people 386 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: that are like, you better have a baby. This is 387 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. These are the same people 388 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: that you can't adopt the child, you can't use IVF, 389 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: that're all of it in your body. That always and 390 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: they always use this argument of like, because our healthcare. 391 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: System will take care of you, you know, don't worry 392 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: about it. 393 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: Mark Robinson, who's a known bigot who's running for i 394 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: think governor of North Carolina right now, has ad out 395 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: about abortion. And in the ad he talks about him 396 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: and his wife had they had an abortion back in 397 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: the day. But it's an anti abortion ad and it's 398 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: about how he doesn't they don't agree that they want 399 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: to have like a band on abortions after like six 400 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: weeks or something, maybe twelve whatever it is in North Carolina, 401 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: and then goes on to say like We'll make sure 402 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: the mothers are taken care of. If I'm the governor 403 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, you're gonna make women have babies 404 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 2: they don't want. 405 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 3: Yes, you want to be taken care of. 406 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: Shit, Because when you get a chance to take care 407 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: of people, what does it look like? Cutting the budget 408 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: for AIDS, cutting the budget for HIV programs, cutting the 409 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: budget for healthcare, cutting the budget for welfare like this, 410 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: This is not the compassion that you're saying you got 411 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: you have in those fucking commercials. You cut the shit 412 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: out of this budget. If it was the defense fund, 413 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 2: you be fucking raising it. 414 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, And you know it's one of those things 415 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 5: where people are impacted by this. They just don't give 416 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 5: a fuck. They let the racism rule everything, and they're racism, hobophobica, biggertrey, misogyny, 417 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 5: whatever it is. They let that make the decision, and 418 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 5: consequences of their decisions be damned. You know, they're struggling 419 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 5: out here like everybody else to pay be because you're 420 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 5: in America. The average person is struggle ling. So they're struggling, 421 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 5: their family struggling. Ain't nobody got no savings and all 422 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: types of shit and yet they you know, they'll bring 423 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 5: up I got this problem, and Donald Trump will actually 424 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 5: say something completely He won't even answer the fucking question 425 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 5: because he don't give a fuck about your poor ass. 426 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they proposed to take two hundred and fourteen million 427 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: away from the US sentence for the Seeds Control and 428 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: Mentions HIV prevention programs, one hundred and ninety million from 429 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: the Ryan White HIV AIDS program, in fifteen million from 430 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: the Department of Health and Human Services Secretary's Minority HIV 431 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: AIDS program. I would also like to point out because 432 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: you see minority HIV AIDS, so now we're talking about 433 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: black and brown people for sure. All the people that 434 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: tell us Democrats won't do anything for you, what are 435 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: the tangibles? What specific things do they do for the 436 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: black community. I can tell you what Republicans do against 437 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: our community, and you can never tell me what specific 438 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: things they've done to help our community. So you know 439 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: this shit directly targets us. Last one, well it's two more, really, 440 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: the first one's pretty quick. Boston Red Sox outfielder Jared 441 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: Durant was suspended for using a homophobic slur in twenty 442 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: twenty four. Yeah, I think it called someone F and 443 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: F work. He put out a statement and apologized for 444 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: it during the night game. I use a truly horrific 445 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: word when responding to a fan. I feel awful knowing 446 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 2: how many people are offended and disappointed. I apologize to 447 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: the entire Red Sox organization, but more pointing to the 448 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: entire LGBTQ community. Our young fans are supposed to be 449 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: able to look up to me as a role model, 450 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 2: but tonight fl far shortened responsibility. 451 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 5: Is valid. Hit that money, be like stop this bullshit. 452 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: I mean, the thing for me is like that. He 453 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: probably just became Joe Rogan's favorite baseball player, you know, 454 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: Like I feel like we're in such an interesting place 455 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: in society where we know right from wrong. We know 456 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: you shouldn't do that. He should be sorry. Whether he's 457 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: sorry or not, we can never know. So mu's hard. 458 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: He put out the statement got suspended, but I can't 459 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 2: help but think how a week ago Joe Rogan's Special 460 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: kind of ends with him using the F word and 461 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: everyone in that audience cheering and applauding. We're such a 462 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 2: divided time right now, and I have no problem with 463 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: the divide because I think I'm on the right side 464 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 2: of it, and I don't just bemoan the idea of 465 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: being divided as just catch all of like, man, I'm 466 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: so sad we're so divided now. I'm adamant if you 467 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: on that side, fuck you. There's no excuse for that shit. 468 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: It's not to be applauded, it's not you know, it 469 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: just it just feels like there's a lot of like. 470 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 3: Opposite cultural values happening. 471 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: And so I mean, I'm obviously glad the dude got 472 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: spending and apologized and only change behavioral see, And I 473 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: mean we've seen this with other people. Kobe had a 474 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: moment like this with a ref and apologized and did 475 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: all this work and PSA's and shit, and maybe that 476 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: he'll be doing that stuff too. But yeah, man, twenty 477 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: twenty four, man, you know better, come on pick a 478 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: jd vance and drag goes viral at the classmate leaks it. 479 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 5: Oh classmate. 480 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean did they vet this dude? 481 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 5: I don't think they did. Nobody did their research. 482 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: No, did they even google this motherfucker? 483 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: This onna fucky got a lot of skeletons in his 484 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: closet and you got dresses. 485 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: On nobody did they research? You know? No, you know 486 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 5: because a lot of times for the people that they're 487 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 5: considering for vice president, if done right, they actually do 488 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 5: all types of background. Sometimes they have actually have private eyes. 489 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 5: They don't tell them about falling around like like they 490 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: actually scope these people out really really hard. It's like 491 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 5: a friend of a friend with the Donald Trump and 492 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 5: John Trump said, Okay, y'all didn't check nobody, y'all didn't 493 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 5: vet nobody, y'all nothing, None of this shit happened, And 494 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 5: now everything's fucking coming out. 495 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they saund like his son, Trump's son likes this 496 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: dude or something, and Peter tallor who's funding this campaign. 497 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: Likes this dude. But I'm like, did y'all not look 498 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: nothing up? 499 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: This is crazy? 500 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: Some new shit come out about this dude. 501 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 5: Every day every day. 502 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 7: Uh. 503 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 2: But yeah, this is a photo of him while at 504 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: Yelled Law School, dressed in drag. And then the person 505 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: that sent it said, how Matt I was the source 506 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: of his photo sent through friends to you. This was 507 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: taking it twenty twelve, same time I was at Yell. 508 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 2: Photo was taking by a classmate and sent to me. 509 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing. So he put his name on it, 510 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: Travis Whitfield whatever, he put his name. 511 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: On it, like yeah, like I am something that's definitely mean. 512 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 2: And there's like two there's another photo out there floating 513 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 2: to him and drag too, But it's just for for 514 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: a dude that just claims to be the bashing of 515 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: masculinity and his whole thing is these fucking weirdos always 516 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: have some. 517 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: Shit like this. 518 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: This is the second photo he kind of posed and 519 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: styled himself and he's not. This doesn't look like he's joking. 520 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: And I don't mean nothing in a he's gay or 521 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: some shit way, y'all. Just mean like he took the 522 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 2: photo like he was trying to serve some face or something. 523 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: Right, Like he posed like gonna get these looks. 524 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, just like how you don't know you got this, bro? 525 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I know they made up the couch fucking thing. 526 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: You couldn't possibly figure that one out. But right, dog, 527 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: you you you support, don't say gay laws and ship 528 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: you do? 529 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: You call people groomers? 530 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 531 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: Did you don't not remember the pictures? 532 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: You didn't remember wearing this ship? 533 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 3: It might come back, I don't care. 534 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: God, damn boy, they ships so bad over there, I'll 535 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: be feeling like, am I'm making this up? 536 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 5: Sometimes? 537 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: Yes, this is just my confirmation bias making me this ship. 538 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: You go digging. 539 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 5: You're like, no, it's actually true. 540 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: All right, Let's get to some other news and other 541 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: stuff happening as well. We'll be right back after this beat. 542 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: All right. 543 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: I think that was called boy. How all right? 544 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: Other news? Skilled just run through the fucking uh Trump 545 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: news real quick. Get this over with, so Trump once again. 546 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: This is when I'm like, am I crazy? Am I 547 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: making this up? 548 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: It's too good to be true? But it is true? 549 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: What the fuck? 550 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 7: Okay? 551 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is flying around in to campaign events in 552 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein's old plane. 553 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 5: How is that plane even still a commission? What is happening? 554 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 5: How did he get his hands? 555 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: I don't think the plane would be out of commission. 556 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: I don't think that's how crimes work. This is evidente. 557 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: But it's still crazy that he like like you would 558 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: think he would be like, well, h not that. 559 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: One, give me something else. 560 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: It looks like he would have told them to give him. 561 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 5: But you know what, he's so bro He pot didn't 562 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 5: have another option. Like I'm not trying to be funny 563 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 5: like he's scraping the bottom of a barrel because you know, 564 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 5: he don't pay bills, so this is probably the only 565 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 5: plane he could get, either for free or for the 566 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 5: lo lo that he could fly on. 567 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they said Trump campaign accidentally uses an airplane once 568 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: owned by Jeffrey Epstein. 569 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 5: No, that's not no accident. 570 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: I mean I'm more prone to believe it's an accident 571 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: than they meant to do it. Karen, Why the fuck 572 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: would they want to do it? It makes more sense 573 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: that they just haven't in that fucking campaign and and 574 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: somebody fucked up then to be like, yo, go get 575 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: the fucking sex traffick at Jeffrey Epstein plane that we 576 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: all swear we don't fucking know the guy. 577 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 5: Somebody got the numbers. Shit, I was supposed to be 578 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 5: the lastn't supposed to be seven versus eight. 579 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: Fuck. That's why I think he really was helping Biden 580 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: state in the rights is because I think the media 581 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: would have still been obsessing over like Biden fucking up 582 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: somebody's name or stumbling over a word or stuttering. They 583 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: would have been obsessing over that shit, and this wouldn't 584 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: even have been a headline. 585 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: They would be like, Okay, now. 586 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 5: The attention is all to it, and this is the 587 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 5: because he been doing bullshit like this the whole goddamn time. 588 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 5: They didn't give a fuck, but now they was like fuck, 589 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 5: I guess we do our jobs. 590 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: We had absolutely no idea, said a campaign official who 591 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: discussed the airplane situation and condition of anonymity. The plane 592 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: in question was not called the so called was not 593 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: the so called Lolita Express that Epstein allegedly used the 594 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: fair young girls to a private island. 595 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: That aircraft has been destroyed. 596 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I guess you were right, ken, I guess they 597 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: did take that shot our commission, it would make sense. 598 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: I didn't. 599 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: I don't know why you would destroy it, but I 600 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: don't know. 601 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. 602 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 5: And to me, because it's the plane is so and 603 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 5: maybe the way my mind taks, I was like, it's 604 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 5: so much shit. You go no, no, no, no, no, 605 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 5: this particular plane, no no, take it apart, sell it 606 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 5: for scraps, destroyed, like no, we don't want anybody else 607 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 5: flying on this bitch like so, so nobody can't get 608 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 5: it by accident or any of that. You're gonna know, 609 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 5: destroy it and maybe just me. I was like, shit, 610 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 5: shit might have happened on the fucking plane. 611 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: He's like, no, no, no, don't wat shit happened on 612 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: the plane. I just thought they'd keep it for evidence. 613 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: I didn't think. 614 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: I didn't. I don't know anyway, that's interesting that they 615 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: destroy the shit. 616 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: Trump and Epstein once knew each other socially, but there's 617 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: no evidence that the form president was aware of Epstein's 618 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: legal activities. Epstein died in twenty nineteen while man jail. 619 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: On sex trafficking charges. Blah blah blah. 620 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's one of those things where I saw 621 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: it on Twitter and I went, I need to go 622 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: find a real article. 623 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: Yes, because this is so fucking crazy and stupid. It 624 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: did this happen? 625 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: You know? 626 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: Like it made me think, is this shit real? Let's 627 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: see what else is happening. Oh, there's rumors or not rumors. 628 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: I guess it's in the Bullwark dot com. But I 629 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: guess speculation is the best way to have it. That 630 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: that the Donald Trump campaign was partially responsible for some 631 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: of the online scuttle but about the vice president nominee. 632 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: But I guess a finalist Josh Shapiro. They basically didn't 633 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: want him to be a VP for some frecking reason. 634 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: I don't know why. So a Trump advisor, speaking on 635 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: condition of anonymity, said, where we could we amplified the 636 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: leftists on Twitter, We Faedt Shapiro, oppo research to the media. 637 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: We did what we could to create more noise and discontent. 638 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: We didn't do that with Tim Wallston, I said of 639 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: a progressively blue state Minnesota governor who ultimately scored the VP. 640 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: Noine. 641 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: Now, look, they could be just lying, trying to take 642 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: credit for some shit. They had nothing to do it 643 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 2: at all. They could be telling the truth. I don't 644 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: fucking know. No, I do think it is worth noting 645 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: that a lot of what is happening on social media 646 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: cannot be vetted, is not really no real and and 647 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend about this, and I 648 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 2: think it happens to almost everybody on social media, especially 649 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: those who argue and get into conflicts and back and 650 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: forth with people. I don't know that people really want 651 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: to accept how fake some of the social media interactions are. 652 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, there's one hundred percent fake. 653 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: For not one hundred percent fake. That's not what I mean. 654 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 2: I just mean, like, when you want to make a 655 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 2: point and you want to be angry, it's a place 656 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,959 Speaker 2: to go where, especially on Twitter. You know, some less 657 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: some other places less so, but on Twitter where an 658 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 2: anonymous person who may not be a person will always 659 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: be on the other side, and then you can kind 660 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 2: of take your anger and emotion and frustration out on them. 661 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 662 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 2: And I don't I don't think people are purposeful in 663 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: like being complicit in it. Like I'm gonna go argue 664 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: with some bots, but I think there's something inside of 665 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: us with that dopamine hit when you stop caring that 666 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: it's not a real person. I've watched good friends that 667 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 2: I know are very smart argue with accounts I can't 668 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: prove as a person, right and they send me, you know, 669 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 2: the like, look at what I said to this person. 670 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: Look what this person said to me. And I'm like, 671 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: is that a fucking person? 672 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, and I mean, it's 673 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: just gotten that bad because you know, obviously a lot 674 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 2: of this is purposeful from Elon Musk. 675 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 3: He's he's made verification mean nothing. You can just pay 676 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: for it. He's unverified other people. 677 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: He's made it so that trusted news sources can't have 678 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: checks if he disagrees with what they say. So like, 679 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: it's everything has to be questioned on purpose, and what 680 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 2: happens to None of us have the mental rigor to 681 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,959 Speaker 2: question everything and verify everything all the time. No human 682 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: beings built like that, which is why I don't spend 683 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: time on Twitter admonishing everybody about it, because no fucking 684 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: human being is capable of that. Period. Agreed, But I 685 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 2: think the purpose of the place is to make it 686 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: so that it's such hard work to verify anything that 687 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: you stop verifying shit and just go with your confirmation biases, 688 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: which is why I said I had to go fucking 689 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: google the Epstein plain shit, because I'm like, that's the 690 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: kind of thing I definitely want to think it's true, 691 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: but that's so crazy. 692 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 3: It can't be true. 693 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: It turns out it's true in that case. But yeah, 694 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 2: at any rate, I have no idea how true or 695 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: not this is, but it's something to consider the idea 696 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: that because I think that we do know it has 697 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 2: happened before, especially against Kama Harris. They have weaponized progressive 698 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: social media and kind of infiltrated it. 699 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: And created tightle way where it crosses over to real people. 700 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: And those real people carry out the bidding of Russia 701 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: or you know, conservatives or whatever, thinking oh no, I'm 702 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: just doing this out of the goodness of my heart. 703 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: And the same thing they ain't really confirming or having 704 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: any scrutiny on anything, is that I saw a link, 705 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 2: I heard a thing is you know I've had people 706 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: do that when they bring up like stuff with Kamala Harrison. 707 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: You know y'allve heard me. Well, I said, I have 708 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 2: to delete comments off our social media because these people 709 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: are either trolls, or they're uninformed, or they're just not 710 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: real people right. Either way, I don't have time for it. 711 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 2: I'm not I don't actually don't get off on arguing 712 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 2: with those folks. So I'm able to look at it 713 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 2: and go Even if you're a real person, I don't 714 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 2: want to go back and forth with you. But I 715 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: think a lot of people don't, and I think it's 716 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 2: because they kind of want the interaction. 717 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 3: We're all kind of lonely, they do. 718 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 5: People are lonely, people are sad, people are depressed, people 719 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 5: are running away from real life issues that they need 720 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 5: to address, and so or anxious or whatever it may be. 721 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 5: They and I will continue to say this, You bring 722 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 5: these feelings online because you actually don't want to address 723 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 5: the root calls or whatever it's causing you to feel 724 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 5: this way, because if you did, you would pull yourself 725 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 5: offline and figure it out. But people don't want to 726 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 5: do that, so they use it as a for some people, 727 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 5: as a way of escape. And so it doesn't matter 728 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 5: what it is is this person allows you to let 729 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 5: that feeling go online without any consequences, of any repercussions 730 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 5: of your actions, and it doesn't matter if it's a bidy, 731 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, if it's not real, it doesn't matter 732 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 5: if it's not the truth. It doesn't matter because at 733 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 5: the end of the day, you quote unquote feel better. 734 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 5: But that feeling is temporary because at the end of 735 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 5: the day, whatever that matter is, it will come back 736 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 5: again and it eventually would have to be addressed or 737 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 5: you would continue to go in this cycle, in this 738 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 5: circle until you decide to break it. For most people 739 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 5: I know, cause I've been in it, like you have 740 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 5: to decide, Okay, this behavior is not healthy for me. 741 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 5: It's affecting my mental health, it's affecting my real health, 742 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 5: it's affecting my real life. It's affecting that people around me, 743 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 5: they say, my personality changed, like I've got to fix 744 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 5: this and address this. But too many people are in 745 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 5: the now because the thing is when you're in the matrix, 746 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 5: is somebody says, hey, you're in the matrix. You're gonna 747 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 5: look at them like they're crazy. You gonna know this 748 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 5: is normal, everything's okay, and they're going, no. 749 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: It's not. 750 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 5: And sometimes people are so far in that something has 751 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 5: to happen for them for them to want to leave. 752 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think people don't really care when it 753 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: comes down to it. I think everyone people are smart 754 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 2: enough to at least think it's possible that I'm arguing 755 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 2: with a fucking anime avatar person with a bunch of 756 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: weird shit in their bio, and but they want to 757 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 2: argue about what someone about the thing that they're upset about, 758 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: and so they go to to these places and I 759 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 2: don't know, but I think it fuels a lot of stuff. 760 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: But I think shit is getting so real with this 761 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 2: election that a lot of the pushback is showing up 762 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: and it's not they're not able to infiltrate yet. Maybe 763 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: if they'll be able to erode everyone and bring it 764 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: right down out. But I'm seeing and this is something else. 765 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 2: I was telling a friend, and I know how people 766 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: feel about Biden or whatever that listen to show. Some 767 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 2: agree with us, some doubt. But let me tell you something, 768 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: everybody who's finding the willpower and the time to get 769 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 2: on social media and defend Kamala Harris, there is nothing 770 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: you're defending her from that isn't true for Biden, right, 771 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: that's just the facts. It's just something about it not 772 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: being that old white man that put a battery in 773 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 2: people's back to where they will full with their chest 774 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: be like fuck what y'all talking about a big one 775 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: that's been like And I'm not saying it's right or fair, 776 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: and I don't participate in this back and forth. 777 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 3: I've just seen it. 778 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: But before with the like Palestine Israel stuff, people would 779 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 2: say something and people would basically shut down because they 780 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 2: didn't want no smoke and they don't want to look 781 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 2: like a bad person by minimizing that human tragedy that 782 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 2: you know, catastrophe, that genocide that as folks say. But 783 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: when I tell you, like, I'm now seeing people put 784 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: forward the reasoning and not just one like multiple people 785 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: being like, let me tell you why getting letting Trump 786 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: win won't help that conflict. That was true when it 787 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 2: was Biden too, yes, but for some reason people feel 788 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: more confident expressing that now with Kamala on being the 789 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: one that's gonna end up being on the hot seat hopefully. 790 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: So it's just been interesting and also like defending the 791 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: administration's accomplishments. Those accomplishments are biding accomplishments. But when it's 792 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: Harris at the front, now people are willing to step 793 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 2: up and be like, no, they did do shit for 794 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 2: black people. Here are the things they did. And I'm like, 795 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 2: but that was true a month ago, that was true 796 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 2: two months ago. So it's interesting now you can find 797 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 2: it in you. A lot of this stuff feels like 798 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 2: a wave is moving and people just kind of go 799 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: with peer pressure or the tide, and so they've decided 800 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 2: to tie this turn. So now they're willing to say 801 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 2: the shit that we've been saying on this show, right 802 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: because you know, at the end of the day, I 803 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 2: feel like an obligation to be honest about what we 804 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,760 Speaker 2: say on here, as opposed to like, well, the social 805 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: media is saying this thing, or people are mad or 806 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 2: the other podcasts are saying this. It's just not a 807 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 2: good time to say this thing. I mean, if it's true, 808 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 2: it's gonna be true, and you can look back on 809 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 2: it and be like, at least I was fucking keeping 810 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 2: it real with myself and never lying. But yeah, it's 811 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: interesting watching people do a one eighty and now defend 812 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: the same things that they were attacking right not too 813 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 2: long ago. 814 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 5: Agreed, agreed, and the switch cause people to be like, oh, 815 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 5: it's not an old white man. The switch calls people 816 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 5: to go, oh, it's a black person, a black woman. 817 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 5: The switch call a lot of people to feel energized 818 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 5: and things like that, because it's like they wanted anybody 819 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 5: for Biden, Like like a lot of people never admit 820 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 5: and this this, this is my opinion. They never wanted 821 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 5: Bide in there, and so they were on his ass 822 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 5: and they wrote him the whole time. They will not 823 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 5: say it and they won't publicly admit it, but they 824 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 5: never wanted him in there. And he accomplished shit that 825 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 5: they never thought he was gonna accomplish. And he did 826 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 5: a lot of things that Kamala pushed him to do 827 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 5: and they wanted him to do. They did a whole 828 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 5: lot of things. So the second Joe Biden stepped down, 829 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 5: they was like, fine, this nigga gone, and here they 830 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 5: come marching out this. You could have had that same 831 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 5: fucking energy before, but you didn't have it because it 832 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 5: wasn't your fucking candidate. 833 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, the argument was as valid for him as it 834 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 2: is for her. That's all I'm saying. It's not necessarily 835 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 2: a you. This isn't a U old Joe Biden any 836 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 2: of that. It's just like a it's interesting that you 837 00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 2: found the logic. Now the logic was there, so yeah, 838 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 2: it's anyway. In other news, Joe Biden did an interview 839 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 2: on Sunday CBS Sunday CBS News Sunday Mornings. Robert Costa, 840 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 2: I guess, was the person that interviewed him, and he 841 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:16,919 Speaker 2: was talking that shit. 842 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 5: You know. 843 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 2: He was like, clearly, this man has decided that if 844 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: if we can just fucking say shit, we can go 845 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 2: ahead and say it since I'm not gonna be in 846 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 2: the fucking office anymore. And he basically just pointed out 847 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 2: how Donald Trump is such a threat to democracy. 848 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 7: Uh. 849 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 2: He underscored the hoigh stakes of the twenty twenty four 850 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 2: election especsing he's not confident at all in a peaceful 851 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 2: transfer or power if the president, If former President Trump 852 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 2: loses in November, he means what he says, all the 853 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 2: stuff about if we lose, there'll be a blood bath. 854 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 2: It'll have to be a stolen election. He says Trump 855 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: is a genuine danger to American security. 856 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 3: He talked about why he dropped out. 857 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: He says, the polls we had showed that we had 858 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 2: showed that it was neck and neck race would have 859 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 2: been down to the wire. But what happened was a 860 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: number of my Democratic colleagues in the House and Senate 861 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: thought I was going to hurt them in the races. 862 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 2: And I was concerned if I stayed in the race, 863 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 2: that would be the topic you'd be interviewing me about 864 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 2: why next Pelosi said, say why did so and so? 865 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 3: And I thought it'd be a real distraction. Number one. 866 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 3: Number two. 867 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: When I ran the first time, I thought of myself 868 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 2: as being a transition president. I can't even say how 869 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 2: old I am. It's hard for me to get it 870 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 2: out of my mouth. But things got moving so quickly. 871 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 2: It didn't happen on his health. I have no serious 872 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 2: problem all I can say is watch, look, I had 873 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 2: a really really bad day in the debate because I 874 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 2: was sick, but I have no serious problem. Yeah, I 875 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: think that that. I think what's interesting about him saying 876 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 2: that is he sat down for this interview. I've only 877 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 2: seen flattering clips from it, meaning it is like, I'm 878 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 2: not he's not a new guy. So either you're saying 879 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: he did this whole interview and it was fine and no, 880 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 2: there's nothing to talk about that was like a gas 881 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 2: or weird or fucked up, or because you're not worried 882 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 2: about losing the election, you're not worried about him being 883 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 2: president in twenty twenty four, you now have relaxed and 884 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: the pressure is off, and you're like, well, he has 885 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 2: some gas, but he always has gas either way. It's 886 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 2: kind of interesting that now it's it's like we're praising 887 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: the interview that I feel like he wouldn't even have 888 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 2: been allowed to give if he was still the candidate, 889 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: because the whole interview would have just been like, ain't 890 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 2: you old? 891 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 3: Why the fuck are you still running? 892 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? 893 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,240 Speaker 5: Go ahead? 894 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 3: Quit ain't you old? 895 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 7: Well? 896 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 3: I mean you old though for real? Now you should quit? 897 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 7: Right? 898 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 5: Well? 899 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: What you heard what they say. They said you should quit, 900 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 2: so I guess, you know, like I said, with this 901 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: out of the way, I'm with it just because I 902 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 2: feel like this is more positive than the discussion about 903 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 2: his age and health. But it's interesting that we don't 904 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: have a bunch of clips of this interview of us 905 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,439 Speaker 2: talking about his diminished mental health. 906 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 5: Agreed. And it's also one of those things too, with 907 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 5: him not running again, he can actually just say shit. 908 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 5: And I appreciate that he you know, he can actually 909 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,439 Speaker 5: regardless of what's true, what's not, and all that type 910 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 5: of stuff, because I think eventually, if he lives on 911 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 5: those possiblity were going to be a book off of this. 912 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 5: It's one of those things where, like you say, they're 913 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 5: not hounding him, and actually truthfully, they actually don't care, 914 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 5: because you know, they normally would have rolled him and 915 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 5: like you said, been in his ass and talking about 916 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 5: everything else but the shit he wants to actually bring 917 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 5: up and discuss his issues and his things and the 918 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 5: things that he wanted to do with the country. And 919 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 5: I do think that it was strategic to step down 920 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 5: if he wanted to. That's a whole nother story, a 921 00:47:54,719 --> 00:48:00,439 Speaker 5: whole other thing there. But also I am glad he's 922 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 5: actually saying this shit and being truthful, and she like 923 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 5: just because he's like, what the fuck I got to lose? 924 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 5: I am not going to run again. So I appreciate 925 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 5: him being the voice and singing a lot of the 926 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 5: things that Kamaa Lily can't say because she's actually running 927 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 5: for the office right now. And so I am here 928 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 5: for what? And these are some of the same interviews 929 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 5: he was giving before. But we would have had clips 930 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 5: on the Daily Show and all types of clips talking 931 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 5: about how in company that is, how crazy he looks, 932 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 5: and why he said this and why he did that 933 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 5: and shit like this is like the media was like, oh, 934 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 5: you're not running again, okay. So I don't care when 935 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 5: anybody said this was a strategic plan by the media 936 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 5: to get this fucker out of office. I don't came 937 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 5: about y'all saying it was strategically playing. They was on 938 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 5: his ass And the second he stepped down, is it 939 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,760 Speaker 5: me or did the bullshit stop? 940 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 941 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 3: It really did? It really did? I mean that can't 942 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 3: be denied. 943 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 2: And that's why I say a lot of it's just 944 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 2: anxiety of feeling that he wasn't gonna win, because honestly, 945 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 2: if people really felt the way they said his elder. 946 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 3: Abuse, he shouldn't be he's mentally fucked up. 947 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 2: They should be like, why are we pulling the twenty 948 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 2: fifth Amendment right now? 949 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 3: Or whatever? 950 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 2: Like why aren't we making Kamala the president right now 951 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 2: and make him step down? We can't afford even another 952 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 2: day of this man in office at his mental capacity. 953 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 2: But I think I really think it was that. I 954 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 2: don't think those people would ever admit it. But you 955 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 2: you know, it's been weeks now, Yes it has. The 956 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 2: talk has died down. They're not saying that shit. They're not. 957 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 2: They're just excited about Kamala running. I don't blame him 958 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 2: for being excited, but they'll never admit, like, Okay, I 959 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 2: might have overreacted, which is fine. 960 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 5: And like I said before, every everybody has anxiety. I 961 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 5: get it. The people who wanted you to stay and 962 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 5: the people who want to step down. Everybody has anxiety. 963 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 5: But even through all of that, they're gonna feel the 964 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 5: way they feel, and I'm gonna feel the way I feel. 965 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to change anybody's mind on it. At 966 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 2: this point, I could give a fuck everyone should just 967 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 2: be excited abou kamla Harrison and I'm ready to move on. 968 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm not. 969 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 3: The truth is as long as she will, we good. 970 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 2: I agree. 971 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 7: I think of this every other time the kukus Klan's 972 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 7: been involved, they've worked, they've were hoods so not identified 973 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 7: under his presidency, they came out with us with with 974 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 7: no hoods, knowing they had an ally. That's how I 975 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 7: read it. They knew they had an ally in the 976 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 7: White House, and he stepped up for them. 977 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 2: He's talking about the KKK and Trump like that's as 978 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 2: plane as it can get. And I think it's so 979 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 2: interesting that Biden is the one saying that, because I 980 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 2: think what Biden has typically seeing himself as is still 981 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 2: a statesman and still a person that should you know, 982 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 2: try to find the path through both sides, to be 983 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 2: as you know, as as as much as a what's 984 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 2: the word a statesment is possible, just to try to 985 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 2: be like I'm not gonna go to our base or things. 986 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 3: But I've always thought that he felt this way about. 987 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: Trump, and I think that's one of the reasons he 988 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 2: stayed in was because Trump was back, yes, and it 989 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 2: was like, fuck, this dude's still here and I'm the 990 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 2: only one that has been proven to beat him. 991 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 3: Yes, I guess I gotta do this shit myself. Now 992 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,439 Speaker 3: I think he was wrong. 993 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,479 Speaker 2: Kamma's clearly as capable of beating him. 994 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 3: If not more. But yeah, I think it's so interesting 995 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 3: that he just straight up is saying it now. 996 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 5: And I love that and I appreciate that. And this 997 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 5: goes along with a lot of the energy and things 998 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 5: that is happening right now. And I do believe if 999 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 5: it would have been anybody else, I do, in my 1000 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 5: heart believe he wouldn't have ran. 1001 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 3: Again, Yeah, that's my belief. I can't prove it, but 1002 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,280 Speaker 3: that's just my belief. 1003 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 2: Like I don't like, I don't buy the people that 1004 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 2: say shit like he just got taste of that power. 1005 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 2: We want to hold under that power. That's how you think. 1006 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 2: Probably I don't. He don't come across like that to me, like, 1007 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 2: oh man, finally the power is mine. If this is 1008 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 2: how he chooses to use his power, it's just not 1009 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 2: it's not what y'all. It's not in the ways that 1010 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: are showing up to me as just like weird, selfish 1011 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 2: hoarding of power. And I'm so old. 1012 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,479 Speaker 3: But at least I have the prescious like, I don't 1013 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 3: see it. 1014 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 2: I just think that's how all of us think it 1015 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 2: must be, because we consider like people that think like 1016 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 2: that feel like that's what it would be. But he 1017 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: seems like a lifelong government servant in many ways that 1018 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 2: thought he was called to duty in this way. All Right, 1019 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 2: a couple other articles or maybe we'll just do hm hmm. Well, 1020 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 2: tomorrow we have Gaster, and I kind of want to 1021 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: save this one article for both of them. Okay, hold on, 1022 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 2: let me see, let me see. All right, this episode 1023 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,919 Speaker 2: is not gonna be as funny as it could because 1024 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say these articles. But we'll talk about it 1025 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: with Gaster tomorrow. Let's go, uh matter of fact, let's 1026 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 2: move into to guess the race or something or we 1027 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,959 Speaker 2: see is there fucking with black people that I feel 1028 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 2: like talking about? Yeah, ship, let's go with fucking with 1029 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 2: black people. It's been a second since we did one 1030 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 2: of the news all right, here we go, Wait, where's 1031 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 2: the short one? There we go. 1032 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:28,280 Speaker 6: Whoo boo whoo with just fucking with them people because 1033 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 6: they black, with us, fucking with them people because they black, 1034 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 6: with just hoop, fucking with them black people with just. 1035 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 2: Fucking with them blacks. We just fo fucking we fucking 1036 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 2: black people who. Three people were arrested in northern Nevada 1037 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 2: after a racist incident was caught on camera during a 1038 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 2: hot August nights car show in Virginia City. Gary Miller 1039 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 2: faces a charge of violation of breach of the peace, 1040 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 2: Janice Miller faces a charge of battery, and Tiffany Miller 1041 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 2: faces a charge of obstructing and delayed a peace officer. 1042 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,760 Speaker 2: According to Story County Sheriff's Office, damn. 1043 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 3: I was hitting the police or something. 1044 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 5: Something happened. 1045 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 2: According to Nevada Attorney General Aaron Ford, the suspects were 1046 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 2: caught on camera verbally harassing a black man, apparently reference 1047 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 2: a hanging tree during their aggressive interaction. They released a 1048 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 2: statement as Nevada' Attorney General, I wholly condemn their action. 1049 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 2: Such hate does not represent the values we hold here 1050 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 2: in Nevada, and it should be it should not be countenanced. 1051 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 2: Love countenance, love a good countenance won't use that enough. Accordingly, 1052 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 2: I have reached out to Sheriff Cullen to offer my 1053 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 2: support in his office investigation into this matter. I'm proud 1054 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,720 Speaker 2: to be a Nevada as a as are the employees 1055 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 2: of my office who reside throughout the state, including those 1056 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 2: living in and around Virginia City. Nevada is rich in 1057 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 2: diversity with people. Okay, it's gone to a lot anyway, 1058 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 2: I guess the incident went viral on social media and 1059 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 2: then they were arrested and booked in the Story County 1060 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 2: Detention Center with separate beail amounts. Riff Office says, continue 1061 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 2: to look at all the information that's presented, all the 1062 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 2: information preceding the initial video recording and actions of all 1063 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 2: parties witnessing leading witnesses leading to the incident. So yeah, 1064 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 2: that's I mean. And it sounded like they were harassing 1065 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 2: him and expected everybody to be on their side. 1066 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:34,800 Speaker 5: That's why they did it. 1067 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then when the police showed up and was like, 1068 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 2: actually you under arrest, they were like what the fuck? 1069 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:42,320 Speaker 2: Like we can do that? 1070 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 3: We shouldn't. I thought we was just gonna get to 1071 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 3: talk bad about this black man threatened to hang them 1072 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 3: and shit. 1073 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,879 Speaker 5: U So zero twe hundred, this gets say twenty five 1074 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 5: twenty five because they fucked with him, but minus seventy 1075 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 5: five because the turner Jenna was like the. 1076 00:55:59,200 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 2: Fuck is this. 1077 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 5: You're not standing for it. Like everybody came out was like, hey, no, no, 1078 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 5: we're not gonna put up with this. We're gonna investigate, 1079 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 5: We're gonna actually do our job. Y'all were wrong, Like 1080 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 5: they didn't try to cause you know, sometimes we read 1081 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 5: articles like this, they try to half assid and act 1082 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 5: like both sizes equal to some other bullshit. It ain't 1083 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 5: no y'all doing some fuck shit. Y'all was wrong. Y'all 1084 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 5: harassed this citizen, and you should be held account. 1085 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 2: A ball Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think twenty 1086 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 2: five is about right. It's fucked up that it fucked 1087 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 2: somebody's day up a little bit, but everybody did the 1088 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 2: right seems to have done the right thing, and everybody 1089 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 2: putting out the right statements afterwards, So good for them, right. 1090 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 2: A black restaurant owner in Ohio was considering pursuing legal 1091 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 2: actually after he was caught up in a case of 1092 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 2: mistaken identity that almost landing him in jail for a 1093 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 2: crime he never committed. Bodycam footage caught the moments that 1094 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 2: Darnell McLeod was taken into custody by police officers in Freemont, Ohio, 1095 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 2: on July eleventh, the cops in the Freemont County Allen 1096 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 2: mccleod's restaurant and told him he had a warring out. 1097 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 3: For his arrest for two felony drug charges. Except McLeod 1098 00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 3: wasn't the suspect police are looking for. 1099 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 2: In fact, the only thing he had in common with 1100 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 2: the suspect is they shared a first name, not even 1101 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 2: the whole names. Darnell Smith is who they were looking for. 1102 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 2: They detained Darnell McCleod. We have a warrant darnall one, cops, 1103 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 2: what could he not read past one name? Uh? He's like, 1104 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 2: is that a Darnell ain't here? 1105 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:21,919 Speaker 3: Because he going to jail? 1106 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 5: Right. 1107 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 2: Police never asked for identification or his last name to 1108 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 2: verify they had the right person in custody. 1109 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 3: They never even showed them a warrant. 1110 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 2: Oh they yeah, what am I getting locked up for? 1111 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 2: What did y'all show me? 1112 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 3: He asked the cops on the way to county jail. 1113 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 2: Is for the county? The County's going to serve it 1114 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 2: to you at the jail, the mail officer answered. He 1115 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 2: continued to protest the arrest when he arrided to jail, 1116 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 2: correcting the staff member questioned by his identity. My name 1117 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 2: ain't mister Smith, he told the employee, what's your whole name? 1118 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 2: My name is mister McLeod. My name is Darnell McLeod. 1119 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 2: With this information, jail employee went straight to the arresting officer. 1120 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 2: The cop ran McLeod's infro through the police station, then 1121 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,959 Speaker 2: called the supervisor to confess his mistake. I got bad news. 1122 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 2: We got the wrong guy, the officer said to his boss. Dude, 1123 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 2: shut the fuck up, Chevy. The supervisor said, I swear 1124 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 2: he is Darnelle McLeod, and it was Darnell Smith. 1125 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 3: The officer said. 1126 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 2: McLeod spent nearly thirty minutes at jail for officers cleared 1127 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 2: and released him. I was pleading my innocence from the beginning, 1128 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 2: all the way from the beginning. Actually, he told wtol 1129 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 2: to be taken all the way down to county jail 1130 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 2: for no reason. 1131 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 3: It was very humiliating. 1132 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 2: McLeod said he lived in Freemont for five years and 1133 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 2: just opened his restaurant nine months ago and the week 1134 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 2: since it's wrong for the rest the police started an 1135 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 2: internal disciplinary process to penalize the wresting officer. Internal yeah 1136 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 2: for official misconduct. Farmer has was suspended from his job 1137 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 2: for three days without paying, will undergo additional training and 1138 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 2: serving the rest warrants. 1139 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 3: I'm being honest for him, is this an additional training situation? 1140 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 2: Like you couldn't read one more word. 1141 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 5: That and you didn't ask for his ID right linly 1142 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 5: be like, can we have your ID to be had? 1143 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 2: It seems like a just incompetence graduation at best. I'm 1144 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 2: of course disappointed. We didn't live up to our standards 1145 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 2: that our community expect us. At Police Chief Derek Winsinger, 1146 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 2: we can't do this alone. We need community support. With 1147 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 2: community support, we are exponentially better at doing our jobs. 1148 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 2: You ain't got nothing to do with the community. Community 1149 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 2: do the community. 1150 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 5: The community didn't put him out and say this is 1151 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 5: the suspect, and y'all was like, you're under rest. 1152 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 2: The mayor say he's encouraging people from the community to 1153 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 2: support the business. That's all America got for us with 1154 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 2: this injustice. It's like, maybe you can get some money 1155 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 2: out of it. You know, George Floyd got killed. 1156 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 3: Y'all want a job. 1157 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 2: We need some. 1158 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 3: DEI anyway, UZI to hearnt it. 1159 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 5: This gets it your cards because you wasted this man's time. 1160 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 5: You you literally and I understand the clerical error because 1161 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 5: we're human, but you've been like can we see your identification? 1162 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 5: Because if y'all would have confirmed up front, you'd be like, 1163 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 5: you know what, my bad, wrong person and went back 1164 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 5: to the office, but like, hey, we got the wrong person, 1165 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 5: Like where's this other person? And like guess what you know? 1166 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 5: Not trying funny, no harm, no foul. I know that 1167 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 5: might sound silly, but you know, okay, we fucked up. 1168 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 5: But for the fact that he told you his whole name, 1169 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 5: he told you he had the wrong person. You never 1170 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 5: showed any information you you took them down and then 1171 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 5: it took somebody else. This job was actually verified shit, 1172 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 5: which you were supposed to do the checks and balances, 1173 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 5: was like, hey, what's your what's your information? Let me 1174 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 5: see you I D and who are you y'all? This 1175 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 5: ain't the right person? 1176 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I give it one hundred, only because he didn't 1177 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 2: get incarcerated or framed or whatever, because I think we've 1178 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 2: seen worst case scenarios where shit did go worse than this. 1179 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 2: He wasn't like physically harmed. They wasted a lot of 1180 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 2: his time because that it's not just the thirty minutes 1181 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 2: in jail. It's the ride over. There is the time 1182 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 2: missed from work, it's the ride back. It's all that 1183 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 2: in conveniences. Even having to go on the news and 1184 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 2: talk about this story is time out of his fucking life. 1185 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 2: And then there's no real recompense, Like the police aren't 1186 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 2: putting up a fund. They're not, you know, not that 1187 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 2: I would want this, but you know, it would be 1188 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 2: almost interesting if they said, like, well, police officers are 1189 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 2: going to start eating there to make to get this 1190 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 2: man some money, so we can like we took up 1191 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 2: a collection or something like. There's just like my bad 1192 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 2: and we will will handle it internally, and this guy's 1193 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 2: gonna still be on the streets. Well after making such 1194 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 2: a huge, at best mistake, right at best, all right, 1195 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 2: last story, Black and other minority farmers are getting two 1196 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 2: billion dollars from the USDA at the years of discrimination. 1197 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 5: Was this the case that got tied up in the court, 1198 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 5: So that's a different one. Uh. 1199 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 2: The Biden administration has doed out more than two billion 1200 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 2: dollars in direct payments for black and other minority farmers 1201 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 2: discriminated against by the US Department of agriculture. More than 1202 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 2: twenty three thousand farmers were approved for payments ranging from 1203 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 2: ten thousand to five hundred thousand dollars, according to the USDA. 1204 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 2: Another twenty thousand who planned to start farmer did not 1205 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 2: receive a USDA loan received between thirty five hundred and 1206 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 2: six thousand dollars. Most payments went to farmers in Mississippi 1207 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 2: and Alabama. USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack told reporters that the 1208 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 2: aid is not compensation for anyone's loss or the pain endure, 1209 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 2: but is acknowledged but meant by the department. The USDA 1210 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 2: has a long history of refusing the process loans from 1211 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 2: black farmers, approving smaller loans compared to white farmers and 1212 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 2: in some cases foreclothes and quicker than usual when black farmers. 1213 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 3: Who obtained the loans running the problems. 1214 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 2: National Black Farmer Association founder president John Boyd Junior said 1215 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 2: that the aid is helpful, but said it's not enough. 1216 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 2: It's like putting a bandage on someone who these oprahart surgery. 1217 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 2: We want our land, We want to be very very 1218 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 2: clear about that. He's still fighting a federal lawsuit from 1219 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty percent debt rely for black farmers 1220 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 2: that was approved by Congress at twenty twenty one. Five 1221 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 2: billion dollars for the program was included in the one 1222 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 2: point nine trillion dollar COVID nineteen stimulus package, but the 1223 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 2: money never came because white farmers in several states foul 1224 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 2: lawsuits arguing their exclusion was a violation of their constitutional rights, 1225 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 2: which prompted judges the program shortly after this passage. So 1226 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 2: that is so that's a different case, and that's still 1227 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 2: being held up. 1228 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, they got somebody that was like, this ain't enough. 1229 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 5: We actually ow, we actually get they want that other money, yes, 1230 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 5: and I don't blame them. 1231 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, Zell t one hundred for the two billion 1232 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:22,920 Speaker 3: they got out of. 1233 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 5: This a fifty. I'm still fucked with. It's not quite 1234 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 5: a hundred, because it's better than nothing that they were 1235 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 5: getting before. And it's also an acknowledgment by the federal 1236 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 5: government that fucked up shit happened, particularly in these two 1237 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 5: states right here. These two states are special because a 1238 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 5: lot of times they are the poorest in the nation 1239 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 5: a lot of times, and they rank low on a 1240 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 5: lot of shit, and from education to all this stuff, 1241 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 5: a lot of voter suppression. It's a lot of fucked 1242 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 5: up shit that happened in these places. So I believe 1243 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 5: one hundred percent that they landed ship was stolen from them. 1244 01:03:59,040 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 3: Generational wealth. 1245 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I give it a. 1246 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 3: I get this one a zero. I actually liked it. 1247 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 2: They got the money, like, uh, the other one got 1248 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 2: to your cards when it was time and uh. But 1249 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 2: I liked that the Biden administration didn't give up and 1250 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 2: that they kept pushing to give them something. And this 1251 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 2: is tangibles and all that shit that people say is 1252 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 2: not happening for black people with Democrats, right, but they'll 1253 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 2: ignore this shit at any rate. 1254 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 3: So all right, last thing, let's do some guests the 1255 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 3: race or second to last day. 1256 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 2: It's time to catch the race. It's time to catch 1257 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 2: the race. It's time to catch the race. 1258 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,919 Speaker 3: It's time to catch the race. 1259 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 2: A school worker has been jailed for nine years after 1260 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 2: stealing one point five million dollars worth of chicken wings. Goddamn, 1261 01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 2: very littles. 1262 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 5: You're not in a whole less restaurant. What is this? 1263 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 2: Very Little's year long heightst of flightless birds soared to 1264 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 2: over eleven thousand cases of the wings, which were meant 1265 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 2: for students during the height of the COVID pandemic. The 1266 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 2: sixty eight year olds started the scheme in July twenty 1267 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 2: twenty and was not found until a business manager or 1268 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 2: school New Chicago found that the food costs were over 1269 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars over budget during a routine audit. 1270 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 5: Yes, you know what when people do shit like this, Yeah, 1271 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 5: people that do statements and credits and debits, they be 1272 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,080 Speaker 5: find this shit. They'd be like these numbers, gonna look right, 1273 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 5: what's the problem. And then they find they dig down, 1274 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 5: they going like something ain't right. They don't think about 1275 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 5: them people and them o nerves on them ex. Sales 1276 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 5: press sheets, be like, oh it's something some flag rap. 1277 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 5: So what's happening here? Bob yo, yo yo, what's happening? 1278 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna get to it. 1279 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 5: They gonna get to their money. 1280 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 2: Laddell brought brought up the cut, brought up the huge 1281 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 2: amount of food and used a school cargo man to 1282 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 2: pick it up. You just never saw a single wing. Oh, 1283 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 2: I guess it was getting bound a wing in the prayer. 1284 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 2: So schools were closed at the time because of the pandemic, 1285 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 2: but the district was still sending our meal kits to 1286 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 2: pupils who were learning remotely. 1287 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 3: Liddell, who was food. 1288 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 2: Service, had for ten years, and the district was officially 1289 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 2: charged with that that operated the criminal enterprise. She was 1290 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 2: handed a nine year jail sentence after pleading guilty. M 1291 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 2: surprised they didn't give her a dozen years. All right, 1292 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 2: Karen guessed the race of Vera Laddell Black. 1293 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 5: That's a lot of chicken wings. Yeah, you had a 1294 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 5: lot of fanom reunions and functions, and off of that. 1295 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 3: She should have tried to get out of there while 1296 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 3: to getting was good. She should have. 1297 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 2: Yep. All right, let's see what they say in the chat. 1298 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 2: Somebody gotta do oh go ahead. 1299 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 5: Of I say, I guess she won't be flying away 1300 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 5: on the wings. 1301 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,160 Speaker 3: Uh, let's see somebody. Okay, wings stopped. 1302 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:16,439 Speaker 7: Black. 1303 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 2: That's a Negro with a wings stand in the low 1304 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 2: cost business model. Black capitalism. That's a lot of wings, 1305 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 2: the black black. Everyone's going black on this one. The 1306 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 2: correct answer is black. You got it right. She looked 1307 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 2: like a like a lunch lady that made it. You know, 1308 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 2: I want to go to retire and shit, I wonder 1309 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 2: what she did, like, did she sell the wings. Do 1310 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 2: she got stuff show for it? 1311 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 5: Something happened. 1312 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 2: Three hundred thousand dollars sounds like a lot of money, 1313 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 2: but it sounded like she wasn't getting it all at once, 1314 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 2: So it was like, you know, it was slow, but. 1315 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 5: That shit be adding up when people be counting them pennies. 1316 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, was she saucing the wings? 1317 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 5: That's a good question, you know. 1318 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 2: Was she just giving it to people? Rob you take 1319 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 2: them home, you cook the kids wings and shit, she. 1320 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 5: Was selling them out the side her house. 1321 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 2: Sounds like a lot is happening, all right, Let's go 1322 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,679 Speaker 2: to the next one. A federal judge barred former Detroit 1323 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 2: Riverfront Conservancy CFO William Smith and others from selling or 1324 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,320 Speaker 2: transferring assets at the prosecutor's Monday, alleged he tried to 1325 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,640 Speaker 2: unload a condo in Mexico a home in Georgia at 1326 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 2: a thirty six foot yacht, the SS Duo since being 1327 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 2: arrested by the FBI and accused are stealing forty million dollars. 1328 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 5: Goddamn not. Thes Duo was like, I'm gonna do it 1329 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 5: again with this yacht. The fuck is happening, sir. 1330 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 2: The allegations emerged in the unsealed federal court filings that 1331 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 2: provided new details on how Smith is accused of spending 1332 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 2: money that prosecutors believe was stolen from the Riverfront Group. 1333 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,679 Speaker 2: Details and the unsealed fouleance confirmed reports in the last 1334 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,799 Speaker 2: two weeks in Detroit News that Smith had transferred Holmes 1335 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 2: to a company headed by his wife and a friend 1336 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,839 Speaker 2: as investigators uncovered one of the largest alleged fraud screams 1337 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 2: in Detroit history. 1338 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,680 Speaker 5: Woof, you know, not time to find it. That's how 1339 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,519 Speaker 5: they're miss smartest. That's saying something body Detroit, Detroit be 1340 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 5: breaking the records. They was like, you know what we got, 1341 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 5: somebody's gonna break that one. 1342 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 3: Home of the hustlers. 1343 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 2: I know she's so much smiling, I ain't shout out 1344 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 2: em US District Judge Linda Parker issued a temporary restraining 1345 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 2: order preventing the property from being sold and required Smith 1346 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 2: to answer why the orders should not be extended for 1347 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 2: the duration of the case and while he negotiates a 1348 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 2: possible guilty plead with federal prosecutors. Meanwhile, the judges restraining 1349 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 2: order covers assets up to thirty nine point three million dollars, 1350 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,599 Speaker 2: approximately the amount He is accused of stealing since late 1351 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 2: twenty twelve. He became CFO of the Conservacy in twenty 1352 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 2: eleven and had some level of control over his finances 1353 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,719 Speaker 2: in two thousand and six, According to prosecutors and FBI 1354 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,719 Speaker 2: investigation reveals that he is engaging in an online ongoing 1355 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 2: effort to transfer assets that would otherwise be available to 1356 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 2: repay his victims. So he's basically just trying to get 1357 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 2: it out of his name. 1358 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 5: They like, we see what you're doing. If you were 1359 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,680 Speaker 5: gonna do this shit, you waited too late. We see it. No, 1360 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 5: thank you. 1361 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,760 Speaker 2: He used the embezzled funds for his own personal gaining 1362 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 2: in Richmond, spending the funds on airline tickets, hotels, limousines, 1363 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 2: how household. 1364 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 3: Goods, lawn care, clothing, and jewelry. 1365 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,839 Speaker 5: Uh in that yard apparently. 1366 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so it sounds like, uh, they on his ass. 1367 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 2: All right, Karen, I guess the race of mister what 1368 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 2: was his name, William Smith? 1369 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,640 Speaker 5: Oh white child. I ain't no niggas being tho CECFO 1370 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 5: and getting access to that type of money. 1371 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,759 Speaker 3: All right, let's check the chat room see what they believe. 1372 01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1373 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,639 Speaker 2: They also went on to say it's a long article. 1374 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 2: But they also go on later to say he had 1375 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 2: new real estate that they didn't even know about. Home 1376 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 2: in Southwest Atlanta listened to seven almost eight hundred thousand 1377 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,560 Speaker 2: dollars a three bedroom, five bath home six hundred and 1378 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 2: sixty five thousand, six hundred and sixty five thousand dollars 1379 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 2: four years ago. Sir, give us all that we want, 1380 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 2: all of those things. The Atlanta home has been for 1381 01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,679 Speaker 2: sales since May twenty eight, three days before he was fired, 1382 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 2: and eight days before he got arrested by the FBI. 1383 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Put on the market just in time, so he was 1384 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 2: out here. I'll see what they say in the chat room. 1385 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 2: White collar, white crime. We ain't got yacht money, white white, 1386 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 2: white as his collar. Everyone's going white on this one. 1387 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 2: The correct answer is black. Y'all all wrong. 1388 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,519 Speaker 5: With that basic gas name. 1389 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,960 Speaker 3: He's from Detroit and his homes was in Atlanta. 1390 01:11:59,160 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 2: I tried to help. 1391 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,559 Speaker 3: I really gave you as much as I could. But yeah, also, 1392 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 3: I mean Ms Martin, I'm. 1393 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 2: Sure she got it right. 1394 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,519 Speaker 5: You know, she was right the first time. 1395 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 2: That's a black man. She's like, I know people like that, 1396 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:13,600 Speaker 2: that's how they get you. 1397 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 3: We'll carrying your one and one. Let's go to the 1398 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 3: bonus round. 1399 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 5: I'll take that all. 1400 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 1: This time. 1401 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:24,680 Speaker 3: It's supposed to be this. 1402 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,679 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to triple the points triple, the points triple, 1403 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: the points triple, the points trip triple, the ring points triple, 1404 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: points trip trip triple, the points trip triple, the points triple, 1405 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 1: the points trip triple, the points trip trup points tints. 1406 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 2: A New Jersey man faces an attempted murder charge at 1407 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:51,639 Speaker 2: the allegedly flying the Florida and attacking a fellow gamer 1408 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 2: oh ship with a ham with a hammer. Well, caring 1409 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 2: to men sounds like, oh what was playing any games? 1410 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 1: What? 1411 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 3: Damn? That's the wrong sound. 1412 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 5: Alright, Sorry he took that RPG series, It isn't it. 1413 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 3: I guess so, I guess so he hit them with 1414 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 3: that plus two hammer. 1415 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 2: Yes he did, so it's over and if I lost 1416 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 2: some health points, it was over an online dispute. They 1417 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 2: never met a person before the suspect showed up at 1418 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 2: the victim's home and for then infront of Dina Beach 1419 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,599 Speaker 2: over the weekend, apparently to confront the victim. 1420 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 1: Uh. 1421 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 2: The insigns believed that originated from an online interaction. The 1422 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,719 Speaker 2: sheriff callt it a weird one. The suspect, Edward King twenty, 1423 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 2: allegedly gained entry into the victims home through an unlocked 1424 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,000 Speaker 2: door and wore all black clothes, gloves. 1425 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 3: And a mask. 1426 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 2: He attacked them with a hammer when the victim got 1427 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,519 Speaker 2: up from gaming to use the bathroom late Saturday or 1428 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 2: early Sunday. Do you think before the fight, before he 1429 01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,959 Speaker 2: attacked him, it was like, fright. 1430 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 5: You think before he attacked him? His uh his gamer 1431 01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 5: level showed up above his head. He's like, wait a minute, 1432 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 5: you level, you level twenty eight. 1433 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a real it was a real uh. 1434 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 2: Situation, Yes, it was. He should have known when the 1435 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 2: dude came in the house and then he started, he 1436 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:22,759 Speaker 2: was like, what's that sound. 1437 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 1: Like? 1438 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:32,559 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, wait a. 1439 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 5: Minute, something he ain't right more, don't come Why do 1440 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 5: you look? 1441 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 2: Two d right? Where are these people come from? 1442 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:43,720 Speaker 3: Just sitting in the background. 1443 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 5: Why is that old nd in the background? 1444 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 2: Right? 1445 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,360 Speaker 5: Why are you just moving from side to. 1446 01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,880 Speaker 3: Side at the after he knocked him out, did the 1447 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 3: slow motion fall to the ground. 1448 01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,880 Speaker 5: Right, Well, he get wait a minute, I'm not right. 1449 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,200 Speaker 5: I know I know something not right. 1450 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 6: Uh. 1451 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 2: So the victim, who was believed to be around the 1452 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 2: same age as King was able to wrestle his assailant 1453 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 2: to the ground. He and his stepfather, who was woken 1454 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,120 Speaker 2: up by the screens for help, were able to dissid 1455 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 2: the suspect to restrain him until debuties arrived. Upon arrival, 1456 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 2: they discovered the significant amout of blood in the inch 1457 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 2: wed at home and the victim's bedroom. The victims sustained 1458 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:23,960 Speaker 2: severe head wounds during the assault. The victim has since 1459 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 2: been released from the hospital. King was booked on that 1460 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 2: in the Nassauth County jail on Sunday and charged with 1461 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 2: the tenth to second degree murder and arm burglary. It 1462 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 2: is unclear if he has an attorney. Uh maybe his 1463 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 2: attorney is eight Phoenix. 1464 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 5: Yes, a Phoenix, that's that nigg attorney. 1465 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna see you. Just sit that there on 1466 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 2: the video game six. People get these jokes and I 1467 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. 1468 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 5: Don't care. I know that goddamn game. That game is 1469 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:52,720 Speaker 5: fucking hilarious. 1470 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 2: Well asked about a motive in the assault, King allegedly 1471 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,720 Speaker 2: told deputies the victim is a bad person online. He 1472 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 2: also allegedly asked how it's jail time you receive for 1473 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:05,040 Speaker 2: breaking the entrant in assault, like, don't worry, you'll find out. 1474 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, mister King, it would be a long 1475 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:09,639 Speaker 2: time before you play video games. 1476 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 3: Leper set or Leaper said. 1477 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 2: The victim in the suspect allegedly knew each other from 1478 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 2: an online video game arcage. According to Lepper Leaper, the 1479 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 2: Korean massively multiplayer online role playing game will not will 1480 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 2: no longer be accessible in the United States as a Thursday, ah, 1481 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:26,639 Speaker 2: and it's. 1482 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,639 Speaker 3: Due to the declineing number of active players. 1483 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 2: All y'all would the last motherfucker's even playing this damn 1484 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,640 Speaker 2: game before it was about to be sunset and you 1485 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 2: had to go kill In some ways, it's almost. 1486 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 3: A lovely story. I hope next season of Beef is 1487 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:41,640 Speaker 3: about this. 1488 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,639 Speaker 5: You know you know what, baby? 1489 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 2: You know what? Baby, I bet you. 1490 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 5: The officer looked at him and said game over, and 1491 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 5: then credits. 1492 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 2: Rolled right right. 1493 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,640 Speaker 3: But what was funny is if he would have had 1494 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 3: fifty seve he could have continued, but. 1495 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 5: He didn't have to. 1496 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 2: Quarters came reportedly told family he was going to meet 1497 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,080 Speaker 2: a friend he met years ago through an online video game. 1498 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,760 Speaker 2: He flew from Norton, New Jersey to Jacksonville, Florida, ride 1499 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 2: to the hotel near the victims home early Friday morning. 1500 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,599 Speaker 2: Do you know how ay he really kept that same energy? 1501 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,719 Speaker 2: Do you understand how many times he had a chance 1502 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,840 Speaker 2: to go? I don't want to deal do this. This 1503 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 2: is crazy. Like even taking a flight that you wanna take, 1504 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 2: it's hard these days, ain't no, you might not make it. 1505 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,760 Speaker 2: Like even a flight to go do something fun. It's 1506 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 2: like it's gonna be delayed, it's gonna get canceled. I 1507 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,719 Speaker 2: got we gotta hold up whatever layover. 1508 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 3: This man kept that energy the whole time. 1509 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,679 Speaker 2: He purchased a hammer and a flashlight at a hardware 1510 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,880 Speaker 2: store upon landing in Florida, where receipts found in this 1511 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 2: hotel room. The incident serves a stark miner of the 1512 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 2: potential real world consequence of online interaction. 1513 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,240 Speaker 3: Leaper said, we urged the public to. 1514 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 2: Exercise cost report and spitched his online behavior to authorities, 1515 01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 2: and always ensured that homes securely locked. 1516 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 3: All right, Karen, I guess the race of mister Edward Kane. 1517 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 5: I'm assuming everybody here for often this is white. 1518 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,760 Speaker 2: All right, all right? You don't want to hang with 1519 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:19,360 Speaker 2: old Edite Kane not Mortal Kombat King obviously. Asian says Romy. Yeah, 1520 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 2: they did have Lou Kane in Mortal Kombat, that's true, 1521 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 2: but he would have bicycle kicked this man to death. Yes, 1522 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 2: I don't think he used a hammer. That wasn't his 1523 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 2: web in the choice. 1524 01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 3: Asian says Trey. 1525 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 5: What's the name and I guessing wrong? 1526 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:38,760 Speaker 2: His name is Edward Kane. Oh, Asian says, you know 1527 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 2: Edward Kane. So we got three Asians in the chat room. 1528 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be all Edie Kane too. 1529 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,800 Speaker 2: So it's really that his name is really Eddie King 1530 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 2: in the movie. He just pronounced it that way, just 1531 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 2: letting you know. White says Drey. I think we're they 1532 01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:02,559 Speaker 2: were Asian or something. Oh yeah, Trey, I was thinking 1533 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 2: that too. I was think of that too from Cable Guy, 1534 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 2: one of my favorite movies, and being still is such 1535 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:11,720 Speaker 2: an underrated moment. It's like they were Asian. I think 1536 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 2: they were like Asian or something. Asian. Caine is a 1537 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 2: black Cane is Asian. 1538 01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 5: Okay, y'all make me wanna change my mind. 1539 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 2: Well I'm about to call it, so what you're gonna say? 1540 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 5: Okay, I go down with the ship. If a wrong 1541 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:30,680 Speaker 5: I'm stick with whatever you said. 1542 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna stick with white, all right, Well you're wrong, 1543 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 3: have moved. 1544 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 2: So that's hi. I'm there. 1545 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they did that ship. Yeah yeah, and they 1546 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,960 Speaker 5: actually look they actually look like they would be on 1547 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 5: Final Fantasy. Yeah, with their hair flowing in the wind 1548 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,240 Speaker 5: and a big ass soul ward. 1549 01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean good for him that he didn't 1550 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,519 Speaker 2: kill the dude because it would have been a fatality. Yes, 1551 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 2: it would have been. 1552 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 5: Oh man, and this that you don't get no extra 1553 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:17,200 Speaker 5: li likes in this game. 1554 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:22,200 Speaker 3: No, that's it. No continues, no power ups. Yeah, good 1555 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 3: luck on the jail level. Yeah, let's go. 1556 01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 5: Hopefully he won't be playing that prison game at two 1557 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,080 Speaker 5: D prison game prison Escape. 1558 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:56,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, last day sore ratchetess. All right, it's 1559 01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:02,800 Speaker 2: a New York. Two miners arrested for machete assault. Two 1560 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,240 Speaker 2: miners are detained by Ithaca Police Department Thursday night after 1561 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,960 Speaker 2: using a machete to assault a person another person under 1562 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,680 Speaker 2: the age of eighteen. Both miners, what do you think 1563 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 2: this is Britain? Well, you get a gun like. 1564 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,040 Speaker 3: A real American. 1565 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 5: Not real American. 1566 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,160 Speaker 2: Both miners, age fifteen to seventeen, were transported to the 1567 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,720 Speaker 2: IPD station before they were released to their parents from 1568 01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 2: multiple charges pending. Damn they got released, and I guess 1569 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,200 Speaker 2: I must see a nice police department at that apartment 1570 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 2: did not discos to series reguard the forecombing charges. Oh 1571 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,599 Speaker 2: maybe they're white. The two fled the area shortly after 1572 01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 2: police were dispatched and were detained. 1573 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,080 Speaker 3: Police recovered the machete. 1574 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 2: The machete was using assault of the young on the 1575 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,280 Speaker 2: young victim who stayed non life threatening physical injuries. 1576 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 3: That then, these are all three underage people involved will. 1577 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,240 Speaker 2: Not be released because y'all know the rules on that, 1578 01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,920 Speaker 2: and plus they are all a miners so they can't 1579 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,879 Speaker 2: say it. All right, y'all tomorrow, lle One and Gastor 1580 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:59,000 Speaker 2: looking forward to that. We got our booster shots today 1581 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,200 Speaker 2: for a fluid COVID, Yes we did. 1582 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,719 Speaker 3: It's reminding everybody it's going around. 1583 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,080 Speaker 2: It's having a little bit of a tick up, so 1584 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,080 Speaker 2: make sure y'all, you know, get your shots. 1585 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 3: It's available. 1586 01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 2: I know the new one's gonna be dropping in the 1587 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,679 Speaker 2: fall at some point, so if you're trying to hold 1588 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,560 Speaker 2: out for that, you know, just letting you know, but 1589 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 2: you know, stay boosted, stay ready, and we'll see you 1590 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:24,559 Speaker 2: guys tomorrow until then, I love you you wo