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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Man. Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolli and

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Speaker 2: he is the Matt Williamson and Matt it is a

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Speaker 2: lovely Thursday. Yeah, it really is after all the bad

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Speaker 2: weather in yucky weather we had. Although I umpired a

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Speaker 2: baseball game last Sunday, it was a night game. It

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Speaker 2: was a second of two games at my field in Washington,

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Speaker 2: and so my game started at eight o'clock. By the

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Speaker 2: time that game was over, I felt bad for the

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Speaker 2: kids who were out there, Little Chili who didn't have anything.

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Speaker 2: You know, I had a jacket that I put on

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Speaker 2: as other you know, I'm firing and their kids out

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Speaker 2: there that it's baseball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not moving all the time. No, you staying

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Speaker 3: there in right field. Chill October, Yeah, little Chili knows

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Speaker 3: sun to warm me up.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if it'll be like that on Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: I bet it'll get cold.

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Speaker 2: We're starting to get into October. We're in October. We're

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Speaker 2: not starting to get that we are in October and

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Speaker 2: that fall weather is starting to happen, and so it's

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Speaker 2: starting to get a little chilly.

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Speaker 3: We're supposed to be clearer, and I don't think any

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Speaker 3: rains forecast herds today.

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Speaker 2: There might be some rain in the forecast. Okay, who's

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Speaker 2: that help Steelers? The team that wants to run the football?

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Speaker 2: Grinder's a team that can't run the.

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Speaker 3: Football, absolutely, yeah, the big personnel grinder. Darnell Washington's of

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Speaker 3: the world. Naujie Harris is the world. Cam Haywards Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we don't want any thunder and lightning delays,

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Speaker 2: but that we do not if it's a little chilly,

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Speaker 2: the team from Dallas could be uh getting hurt football, right,

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Speaker 2: but it's definitely football weather at night now yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a beautiful day here, oh absolutely so.

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Speaker 2: So matters we typically do when when the Steelers play

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Speaker 2: a team that they don't see all that often, and

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Speaker 2: the Steelers do not see Dallas all that often. It

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Speaker 2: could change that two year situation because of the new

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Speaker 2: the new crossover games. Oh right, right right, but typically

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Speaker 2: it's once every four years. Let's take a look at

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Speaker 2: their roster, okay, and uh, this is their unofficial depth

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Speaker 2: chart at wide receiver. It's Ceedee Lamb, Jalen Tolbert. Brandon

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Speaker 2: Cooks is out for this game.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They got Cavante Turpin, Ryan FLOORINOI and Jalen Brooks. You

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Speaker 2: take no, you take Brandon Cooks out of the equation.

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Speaker 3: Right. It gets pretty thin pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Tolbert's been slow his second round pick. He's definitely Day

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Speaker 3: two pick out of South Alabama. South Alabama. He's been

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Speaker 3: slow to adjust to the league. I mean, he hasn't

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Speaker 3: done much, but this year he's starting to show glimpses

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Speaker 3: at least as the three. Now he's we had two

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Speaker 3: on Sunday. I mean, Lamb's a one all day long. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean in any team basically. But boy, that's thin.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be the tame of this TA

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Speaker 2: for a team that throws the ball over sixty percent

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Speaker 2: of the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they do. And I think depth across

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Speaker 3: the board when we go position by positions, it's pretty big,

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Speaker 3: a little frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's pretty cool. This is what happens though,

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Speaker 2: when you're paying your quarterback, when you're paying the wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: big money Parsons is looming. They're they're they're paying. Some

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Speaker 2: of those guys on the offensive line are making some cash. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they've got some high ticket items there.

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Speaker 3: Lawrence is and cheap. He's out for this game too,

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Speaker 3: you know, right.

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Speaker 2: Uh, the offensive line from left to right is Tyler Goiton,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Smith, Cooper Bebee, Zach Martin, and Terrence Steele. Your backups, uh,

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Speaker 2: I seem Richards, TJ. Bass, brock Hoffman, and Matt Well.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, Okay, Richards with somebody I kind of like

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Speaker 3: coming out of school as a late round pick North

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Speaker 3: Carolina dude tackle, but he's undersized for tackle guard.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's go. I liked Haye all but again he's

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Speaker 2: probably your sixth guy. Put some weight on right, right, right?

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Speaker 2: I think he was South Dakota or North Dakota, one

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Speaker 3: It, so Bb, what's weird is Okay, they have two

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Speaker 3: starters on the offensive line, which the Steelers have had

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Speaker 3: some young guys on the O line two.

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Speaker 2: Two rookies, three rookies. No two rookie starters this week.

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Speaker 3: Could have had three if yeah, if the first round pick,

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Speaker 3: like their first round pick would have been available, but

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Speaker 3: they're too are switching positions. Yeah, Geiton goes from right

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Speaker 3: at Oklahoma to left with the Cowboys. Bbe was a

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Speaker 3: guard who played a little bit of tackle, but no center.

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Speaker 3: But he's a real short arm guy, so he's going

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Speaker 3: to center. They've both been okay. I mean they're not

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Speaker 3: total flops. Bbe's been better of the two you mentioned

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Speaker 3: a few times. Geidon's that long, basketball build type of guy,

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Speaker 3: doesn't quite deal with power all that well. Yet you know,

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Speaker 3: one on one looks like.

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Speaker 2: A classic left tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Who's you know there to handle finesse guys, the speed

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Speaker 2: rushers and steel I.

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Speaker 3: Get the guards in a minute, but the right tackle.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the offensive linemen they've invested in and

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Speaker 3: probably shouldn't have to be honest with you, like Rob

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Speaker 3: King references when we were on it, and I noticed

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Speaker 3: it as well, and pro football focused grades don't mean everything.

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Speaker 3: But of like all the tackles in the league last year,

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Speaker 3: he was like second to last. Like I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: definitely not one of the top ten.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even if they're I think they've given up

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Speaker 2: four sacks this season, which is good. Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 2: given up two of them.

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Speaker 3: That makes all the sense in the world. He gets

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Speaker 3: what I do. Think their guards are the best in

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Speaker 3: the league. I mean, Zach Martin's been probably the best

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Speaker 3: guard in the league since for about a decade, give

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Speaker 3: or take. He's gonna moonwalk into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Might not be the dominant player he was on his

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Speaker 3: best day, but he's still really good.

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Speaker 2: Is he really gonna moonwalk.

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Speaker 3: Into the Hall night if he wants? And then I

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Speaker 3: really like Smith too, who's just a nasty could be

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Speaker 3: is real grabby and stuff as a rookie, but he's

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Speaker 3: cleaned a lot of that up. And their guards are

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Speaker 3: a real strength.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they might. When I look at the construction of

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Speaker 2: that line, why wouldn't they take Tyler Smith and put

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Speaker 2: him at right tackle if that's.

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Speaker 3: Such a good guard. But I thought that was.

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Speaker 2: Like guards are easier to find, like.

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Speaker 3: Or leave Guiding at right tackle and put Smith at

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Speaker 3: left tackle. I mean, like, I know what you're saying,

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Speaker 3: because or keep Tyron Smith and you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't know a lot of things

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Speaker 2: they could have.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things they could have done, and

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Speaker 3: now they relying on two rookies with little depth.

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Speaker 2: Uh At tight end is Shake Ferguson, Luke Schoonmaker, Brevan

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Speaker 2: span Ford and John Stevens. I mean that's a good group.

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Speaker 3: That's a good group. Schoon Maker I think has a

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Speaker 3: pretty bright future. I mean he's maybe a starter in

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Speaker 3: a year or two. Not ahead of Ferguson, That's not

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Speaker 3: what I'm applying. Might be somewhere else, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: but he's that capable. Ferguson's vastly underrated. I mean he's

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Speaker 3: one of those guys I always hoopoo and fantasy and

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Speaker 3: then he gets nine to it's a game and is

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Speaker 3: in a really good situation. He's a pretty good athlete.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned today. He's Barry Alvarez's grand grandkids. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's grown up in this sort of thing. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we'd love him if he's a Steeler.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Yeah. The running backs, Is this the worst

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Speaker 2: running back room in the room or one hundred percent?

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Speaker 3: I say so. If we don't count Nick Chubb in Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: I'd still still take Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Ezekiel Elliott, Rico, Daldell Hunter, Loopke who's a fullback

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Speaker 2: and dude, he's playing a lot now, Yeah, if you noticed.

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Speaker 3: I mean they do a lot of different personnel for

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Speaker 3: informations like you'll see zero back like oh, one personnel.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you'll see two back a fair amount with Loopke,

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Speaker 3: he meant he ran the most routes of any of

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Speaker 3: their runners last week. And he's a fullback, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, That's not the way you draw it up.

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Speaker 3: He's not exactly Kamara.

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Speaker 2: Playing with the fullback and you can't run the football no, right,

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Speaker 2: And they run saw a lot of twenty two personal they.

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Speaker 3: Were twenty two the one they were in O two.

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Speaker 3: They run a lot of different stuff.

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Speaker 2: And that might also be because they don't have any

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Speaker 2: wide receiver depth.

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Speaker 3: As I say, it was your third receiver.

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Speaker 2: Great, Yeah, no, you're too tight end like you're talking

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Speaker 2: to Ferguson a scoommaker. Are two weapons. Yeah that they

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Speaker 2: may want to get out there more often.

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Speaker 3: But they're using a full back a lot. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what I bet Daldell is not good in protection.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't been around a long time because he's the

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Speaker 3: best back. Not that he's great, but Zeke is at

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Speaker 3: least solid in protection, and I would think on passing downs.

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Speaker 3: I probably want zeke the DA's right, you know, to

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Speaker 3: help me steal. I would imagine unless you're gonna put

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Speaker 3: the fullback out there as the receiving back because he

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Speaker 3: can block in, they're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna make it right, right right, I mean you run

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Speaker 2: right over. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's a terrible room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a very thin offense.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Defensively, we thought that.

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Speaker 3: Dak's immediate backup. By the way, is it's not like

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Speaker 3: Cooper Rush, Cooper Rush, who's fine Ian. Yeah, that room's

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Speaker 3: not bad. Lance is on the team too.

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Speaker 2: On the defensive side of things, well, we know DeMarcus

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Speaker 2: Lawrence is out. We know Michael Parsons is out, but.

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Speaker 3: Sam Williams is also out. I mean, like he would

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Speaker 3: have been there three but he got hurt in the preseason.

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Speaker 3: He's there herbig, you know, like all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: he was there was a real strength going into camp.

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Speaker 2: So they probably bring up Carl Lawson again off.

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Speaker 3: The Yeah, he played last week, but he's not what

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Speaker 3: he used to be at all. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, but behind those guys, behind Lawrence and Parsons, you're

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Speaker 2: looking at rookie marsha on Niland I liked, but he's okay, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Chauncey Golston that those are the guys we out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like that doesn't scare me, especially.

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Speaker 3: From past rushing perspective. None of those guys are real

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Speaker 3: twitchy edge bender type and run.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are they gonna do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh Inside, you're looking at Mazzy Smith and Lynn Vaal Joseph.

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Speaker 2: They're both big bodies. And then on the other side,

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Speaker 2: Oh so Diggi Zoo and Carlos Watkins.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Diggi Zoo was the best player of the group.

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Speaker 3: He's the three technique upfield guy. He can cause some problems.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, mat, They've only got four three hundred

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Speaker 2: pounders on their I know you can't stop the run.

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Speaker 3: Well, just we just do.

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Speaker 3: I assume that's what it'll be. He's not gonna like, I'm.

434
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 2: Not gonna run him out there for one hundred and

435
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 2: twenty NFL.

436
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 3: Se never go to the sideline.

437
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: Sit there.

438
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 3: He's a Putton returner. He's your kickoff returner. Right, I'll

439
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 3: just be a stay out here, guys, bring me some water.

440
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: At number two, he has the Giants taking cam Ward,

441
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 2: the quarterback from Miami.

442
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 3: Wow, that's the first I've seen him that high. I

443
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,479
Speaker 3: think he's making a strong push for the Heisman. He's

444
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: having a great year, big strong kid. Okay, I didn't

445
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 3: notize he was that revered. I heard a lot of

446
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 3: first round buzzs since then. Yeah, not top five at three?

447
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 2: In my mind, how the Mighty have fallen? He has

448
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 2: Jacksonville taking Will Johnson, the cornerback from Michigan. Can Jackson's

449
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: on up with the third pick?

450
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 3: Yes, they may start selling some of their good players,

451
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I think that's on the horizon.

452
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 3: We could have a coaching change. They do need another corner.

453
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 3: I mean they have Campbell's their best guys out. Yeah,

454
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 3: and even when he and they.

455
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 2: Just signed they just signed Trevor Lawrence to a big

456
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 2: time deal.

457
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 3: They have receivers. I mean, tackle wouldn't kill him. You know.

458
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: The rush is not that bad. It shouldn't it shouldn't

459
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,719
Speaker 2: be this bad. But the quarterback right now is I

460
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 2: saw some numbers today comparing his numbers to those of

461
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: Sam Donald, and they're not.

462
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: This year.

463
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: I'm talking for their careers.

464
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 3: I say this year, they're not even close the career.

465
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know Sam Donald's on is what is fifteen.

466
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 3: Right and was considered a massive bus. Yeah.

467
00:21:54,440 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: M At four, the Titans take Shader Sanders, quarterback from Colorado.

468
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 3: I could definitely see that, whether that's Sanders or not.

469
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 3: I could just see Titans in the top five quarterback.

470
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if I see it with him, as.

471
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 3: I haven't studied any of these guys.

472
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: Watched a couple of Colorado games and I'm like, I

473
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: have not been blown away either. Yeah, a lot of

474
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: its sideways and then there's some stat padding there too.

475
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 2: Daddy likes his pet his stats late in games.

476
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: He's also going to be I don't know if it's

477
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: gonna be like an Eli Manning situation. Remember Eli wouldn't.

478
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: Play for't play for a certain team.

479
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: But there's gonna be some things to deal with with

480
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: this kid. I must say he's a bad kid.

481
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if from Adam right Well play for

482
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 2: the Colts. I just don't see him being a transcendent quarterback.

483
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: The thing I really noticed with him is that he's

484
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 3: more athletic than him He's a He's a good athlete,

485
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 3: and he's not a special Don type athlete.

486
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: Right at five, the Carolina Panthers take Abdul Carter edge

487
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: rusher from State.

488
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: Do you think they go quarterback again? Though? I mean saying, look,

489
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: if there were one available when you're picking fifth, I

490
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: don't think Young's gonna be on the team next year.

491
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: I mean, not that they couldn't use Carter. Of course, they're.

492
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 2: Done with Young yet I think it's right now, it's

493
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: just to take a step back, watch what Dalton does,

494
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: and I think he again, I think Young starts games

495
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 2: for them again at some point this season.

496
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: That would be promising. I mean, I hope that's the conversation.

497
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: They're not born anywhere with Andy Dalton, no, right, so

498
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: they got to find out what they have. I think

499
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: this is a situation where they just said, you know what,

500
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: new coaching staff, We're gonna give you some time to

501
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: learn this. This is the second time in two years

502
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: you've had to learn a new offense. And maybe it's

503
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: too much for him right now. Watch what Andy does

504
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: in this and then we'll get you back in there

505
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: in a few weeks when we're completely out of it.

506
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: We got to find out because you have you're a

507
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 2: new coaching staff. You didn't take this guy. You got

508
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: to find out what you have in him.

509
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I mean they invested a ton in the guy.

510
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: Big thing I said when they benched him was I

511
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: felt they had to do it, not even for him,

512
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: but there was no way of evaluating the other ten

513
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: people in the Yeah, that was a tough thing. And

514
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: those ten aren't that bad. I mean, the old line's

515
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: all right, deyontake, it's open, you run the ball, you

516
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, Yeah, those ten are okay,

517
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: they're not the problem. Yeah, they're not perfect, but they're

518
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: not the problem the defense. So I mean, if they

519
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 3: were to go best defensive player or whatever.

520
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: At six the Cleveland Browns, I see it. Take Ttoria McMillan,

521
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: the wide receiver Arizona.

522
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: I think Mike Evans with him. Yeah, and that's the

523
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 3: style he is. I don't think Cooper's will be back.

524
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: I don't think Elijah Moore is going to be back.

525
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: See a free agent. Yeah, yeah, they could clean They

526
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: could clean the whole thing out except for Judy. They

527
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: gave Muny, yeah a little bit. But yeah, now that

528
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: pick makes all sense in the world. I mean, Watson's

529
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: gonna be back. It might be time to start.

530
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: Rebuilding the old line too. It might be Yeah, it's shambles.

531
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: At seven. They could take a defensive tackle too. That

532
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: would be a bad idea.

533
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 3: And supposedly a really good defense tackle.

534
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: At seven the Colts. I don't see the Colts better

535
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 2: than that. Take Malachi Starks the safety out of Georgia.

536
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: I don't know you taking safety at seven. He better

537
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: be really damn good.

538
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 3: And say Kyle Hamilton was getting the same kind of buzz,

539
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: and he goes fifteen or six games, won seventeen exactly.

540
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 3: And these were these transcendent safeties. I mean, and they

541
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: both hit. I mean, they both were good players. They

542
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 3: lived up to what they were. I don't know that

543
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: he goes seven right eight on defense though for the Colts.

544
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raiders. At eight. Take Jylen Milroe, quarterback from Alabama.

545
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna go ahead of the two they mentioned.

546
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: I think he might too.

547
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 3: I mean, he is a rocket ship in terms of

548
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: just running and he makes some throws. He's so much

549
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 3: better than the last time I paid attention to him.

550
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna start getting first over all type buzz. Yeah.

551
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: He's uh, just a ridiculous athlete and can make can

552
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: make all the throws. Yeah, Like he's all right from

553
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: where he came last year? Was it lastlast year? When

554
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: he broke into the lineup. First time I watched him,

555
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, Wow, he didn't really know what he's doing

556
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: so now it's like.

557
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: OK, he may feel better and he is a rocket ship.

558
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: Yeah now some of that. They also have great players

559
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: around him, of course, of.

560
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 3: Course, still they're playing Georgia. I mean yeah, I mean

561
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: he did really really what you know.

562
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: At nine, Denver takes Luther Burden, the third wide receiver

563
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: out of Missouri.

564
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: A lot of debate between those ab I mean, it's

565
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: like a J Green versus Leo Jones.

566
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: You know, I watched some of Burden this week. I

567
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: can't remember who they were playing. They were playing, Uh,

568
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 2: that doesn't matter. Anyways, I watched some of him this week.

569
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: He's good.

570
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: I've seen glimpses. I haven't studied them. A lot of

571
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 3: people talk to him like he's Jamar Chase type. Yeah

572
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: that's pretty high, real big thicker though. Yeah, he's thicker, tall,

573
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: like the Arizona dude.

574
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: At ten, Arizona takes Mason Graham. I love that defensive

575
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: tackle from Michigan.

576
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: I mean, just a couple of weeks ago, I was

577
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: seeing him as maybe the first overall pick. Yeah, I mean,

578
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: really good d tackle. They absolutely need it.

579
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 2: At eleven, Chicago takes James Pierce junior edge rusher out

580
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: of Tennessee.

581
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, God buy that too. I mean d line or

582
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: road line. I would think would be the move for them.

583
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 3: Their their center guard situation is really bad, but you're

584
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: not gonna take one that high.

585
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: At twelve, the Rams take Benjamin Morrison cornerback out of

586
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. I really like him too.

587
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of corners of size in his first.

588
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: PILs too, by the big physical And I remember watching

589
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: it the Notre Dame game last year. I'm like, who's

590
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: that guy? Right?

591
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

592
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: And Michael Birch is the PR director, one of the

593
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: assistants a PR directors for the Steelers used to be

594
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 2: working PR for Notre Dame and I was asking him.

595
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, what does this kid come out? And he's like, oh,

596
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: he's got another year, he's got a yeah time. Yeah, yeah,

597
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: he's appealing.

598
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: Rams go so many directions. Yeah.

599
00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. At thirteen, the Dolphins earlier than that take Garrett

600
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: Newsmyer quarterback out of LSU.

601
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: No way, I unless he never plays again. You don't

602
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: give someone fifty million a year and then take a

603
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: quarterback the first round. Yeah, I guess some teams do.

604
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: The Packers did a few years ago. And are pretty

605
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: happy about it. I mean, I'm all, he's actually a

606
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: Dolphins guy. Kyle's he hosts Locked on Dolphins, and he's

607
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: in Miami and he's a Dolphin guy.

608
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean it's a need, yeah, I mean, this

609
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: may be a situation where to Tua could come back

610
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: and play this season, get to the end of the year,

611
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: and then doctors talked to him again and like, no,

612
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm done. I can't do this anymore.

613
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: I mean, a cheap backup makes sense. I think more

614
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: like a day two.

615
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: Guy, first round backup is not a cheap backup.

616
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, if you think, who is on going

617
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: to last another year?

618
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: If that makes that, how long was the contract that

619
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: they signed him for, I'm assuming probably not more than

620
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: four could you then you know, at some point, I'm

621
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: assuming there's an out in there. At some point, take

622
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: a guy, let him sit for a year and then

623
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: two you might even play for that year, you know,

624
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: and because you got caught this year without a backup,

625
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: at least you've got something there that, hey, this kid

626
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: could at least get better.

627
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: It's growing on me and there's a lot of buzz

628
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: around him, watching watching the LSU kid is they've got a.

629
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: Lot of money wrapped up in their wide receivers. They

630
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: that's the thing.

631
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: They can't go get a ten million dollar backup, right.

632
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: They can't do it. They have to almost make it

633
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: a young guy.

634
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: You don't want a sixty million dollar and your quarterback.

635
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: You're wasting your sixty million dollars that you're spending on

636
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: two wide receivers by having Skylar Thompson out there running

637
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: your offense.

638
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it's pretty bold, but I understand the

639
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: logic now. Yeah.

640
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: At fourteen, the Chargers take Ashton Genty, running back out

641
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: of Boise State.

642
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: Good. I would think a receiver, though more so than

643
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: if I'm gonna go skill position player. Defense could use

644
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: a lot defensive tackle. They won to run the football though, Yeah,

645
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: And I could see Kyle or anyone doing a mock

646
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: just wanting to get Genty in this neighborhood. Yeah, you know,

647
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: he's been unbelievable.

648
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: At fifteen, the Saints take offensive tackle Will Campbell out

649
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: of LSU.

650
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: Keeping him in the Bayou'd be three first round tackles

651
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: and a very short amount of time, but one of

652
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Speaker 3: them could easily be a guard.

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00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, At sixteen, the Falcons take Isaiah Bond wide

654
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: receiver out of Texas.

655
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Speaker 3: That would be a good move. He's not speeds.

656
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: Turkey live, but he's bigger than worthy though.

657
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: I think he is. Yeah, he'd be your Darnell Mooney plus.

658
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. At seventeen, pass rusher wouldn't kill Atlanta either. The

659
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Speaker 2: Eagles take Nick Scoururton, defensive lineman from Texas. A and M.

660
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Speaker 3: I love him. I like him a lot.

661
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: He a lot.

662
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: I could see the Eagles loving him too.

663
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: Big body, long, a long, three hundred pounder who can

664
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Speaker 2: line up on the outside. He can line up in.

665
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: Something really physical, heavy hands, you know some Cam Hayward

666
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 3: feels like Cam coming out of college.

667
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is good. Eighteen, Seattle takes Tyler Booker, offensive

668
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 2: linemen from Alabama.

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Speaker 3: I could absolutely see interior O line or even a

670
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: right tackle move some people around.

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00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. At nineteen, Cincinnati takes Calvin Banks, junior offensive tackle

672
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Speaker 2: from Texas.

673
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: Tackles two years in.

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Speaker 2: A row for them. Yeah, I mean, Orlando Brown's not

675
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Speaker 2: getting any younger in the league longer than you think.

676
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Speaker 3: The other Brown I don't think will be back. No,

677
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: he may never play again. Where their defense is bad though,

678
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: but they've been drafting defense like crazy, and it's not.

679
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: You gotta protection anything, you gotta protect your franchise.

680
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard for him. I'm not going

681
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: to ever argue with the team taking a tackle. I mean,

682
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: it'll figure its way out. Somebody will move the guard.

683
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: Mims might be a boss who knows, ye, the way

684
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: their defenses are rough.

685
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Speaker 2: At twenty the Jets take Carson Beck, quarterback. Quarterback, would

686
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: make a lot of quarterback from Georgia.

687
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: Who knows if Rogers even back next year.

688
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know.

689
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Speaker 3: He could do.

690
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: He could say I'm done. At twenty one, the Steelers

691
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: take in Mecchia Eggbuka, wide receiver from Ohio State.

692
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I could absolutely see a receiver. I mean that

693
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: makes all the sense in the world. He's not the

694
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Speaker 3: most exciting prospect from what I've seen, He's really solid

695
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: and he's always been like their number two because the word.

696
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: This way, what's there been one defensive tackle taken the

697
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: Michigan kids. Michigan Kids, the only one. Scourton could be.

698
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: Sad enough, you're count him or not?

699
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I might go that route.

700
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think those are I mean, if I

701
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: were putting a chip down right now, what position they take?

702
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: Could be a big man on defense or receiver. Yeah,

703
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: but you can get receivers. On day two.

704
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: At twenty two, Washington takes mikel Williams edge rusher from Georgia.

705
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: Makes all sense for their edge. You guys are pretty bad.

706
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: At twenty three, Minnesota takes Chavon Revel junior cornerback East Carolina.

707
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: They're any corners, any corners bad?

708
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they leave on islands a lot.

709
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tours a c although this mass is he

710
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: looks got hurt.

711
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

712
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: At twenty four, Tampa Bay takes Jalen Walker, linebacker from Georgia.

713
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I think he's also an edged hype.

714
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: At twenty five, Houston takes Kenneth Grant, interior defensive lineman

715
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: from Michigan. Another but he's bigger, he's a bigger. Yeah.

716
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

717
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: Forty is that's not what you're looking for for the

718
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: Steelers you want them?

719
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Speaker 3: No, he would be Benton's.

720
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's more of a nose tackles.

721
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: Right right right, but he moves well, you know, I

722
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: mean he just gets up the field.

723
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Speaker 2: At twenty six Dallas takes Omarion Hampton, running back from

724
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Speaker 2: North Carolina. Two running backs in the first round.

725
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: Surprise, Hampton would be number two. I mean again, I

726
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: haven't studied these guys. It's supposedly an awesome running back class,

727
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: but the kid at Ohio State is the one that

728
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: everyone thought would be the first one taken. Hampton's a

729
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: big back though.

730
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: At twenty seven, San Francisco takes Emery Jones, junior offensive

731
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: tackle from LSU. The other tackle.

732
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Speaker 3: I like that idea. Yeah, And Trent Williams is gonna

733
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 3: be there much longer.

734
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: At twenty eight, Buffalo takes Jack Sawyer, edge rusher out

735
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 2: of Ohio State.

736
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Speaker 3: Who took him?

737
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: That would be Buffalo.

738
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: They've us a lot of high picks on de Liman. Yeah,

739
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: I don't hate it.

740
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: At twenty nine, Green Bay takes Denzel Burke, cornerback from

741
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: Ohio State.

742
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. They when Alexander is out this past week, it

743
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: really showed. Yeah, you know, and they've gone after some

744
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: guys Stokes before that haven't really hit on. Yeah.

745
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: At thirty, Baltimore takes Tate Rutledge, offensive lineman from Georgia. Yes,

746
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: they definitely need some offensive line.

747
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stanley's playing so much better this year, and Linderbaum's

748
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 3: gonna be a fixture.

749
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: But you hope Rosen Garden's the right tackle.

750
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, give me just any kind of alignement and

751
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: we'll figure it out, you know.

752
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 2: At thirty one, Detroit takes Antoine Powell Ryland edge rusher

753
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 2: out of Virginia Tech. Okay, I don't know much about him.

754
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: I don't either. I've heard the name. I don't know

755
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: if it's the speed guy. Is he a big guy?

756
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: I don't know.

757
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: And at thirty two, Kansas City takes Tyler Warren tight

758
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 2: end from Penn State.

759
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: M Most of the guys I've seen have Michigan's tight

760
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 3: end being the first one off the board. It might

761
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: be tight end time though, I mean it's yeah, you know,

762
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: like in my dynasty leagues, my last pick would be Wiley.

763
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: Just come like, maybe ID be the starting tight end

764
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: next year. You even learn from Kelsey and I think

765
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: who's the number two now plays a fair amount?

766
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, he's fine, but he's a two, and he's

767
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: always going to be a two.

768
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: Ye mean, so the next extreme pass catcher for them

769
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: might not be in the roster.

770
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do it a different way. They could also

771
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: go get a true number one wide receiver.

772
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say is Kelsey and Raceie Rice

773
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: are really similar, to be honest with you, and if

774
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 3: they want to keep doing that. There's also Rice's suspension looming.

775
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: I know they put him on IR today with hopes

776
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: of getting him back, so I assume they think he'll

777
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: be healthy by next year.

778
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: But the suspension will be coming.

779
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: This could be ten games or twelve games or whatever.

780
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 3: He could get in trouble again.

781
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 2: You know, there's always that possibility too, the chance.

782
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: Of Kelsey being around next year or two years from hours.

783
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: Slip definitely, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But that's Kyle Krabs with

784
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: his mock draft here through five entering five weeks or

785
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: five weeks into the season.

786
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: Should do that once a month or so.

787
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, just that's why I figured, just you know, we're

788
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: through the month of September, there's there's four or five

789
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: games of college football tape out there. We now have

790
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: a better idea of what some of these NFL teams

791
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: might need.

792
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's because yeah, and where they're actually going

793
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: to be picking. Yeah, you know, right, no one had

794
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: had the Browns picking the top five or Jags.

795
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: No, you know, yeah, so it's just interesting.

796
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 3: It interesting.

797
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Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 2: right after this.

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812
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Speaker 3: Yeah, any way to do it.

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00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: I could do that way as well. But Matt, just

815
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: looking at some of the numbers here on this Cowboys team,

816
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: they's somewhere extreme, there's some there's some things that don't

817
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: match up real well. So they are they're only allowing

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Speaker 2: a thirty three percent conversion rate on third downs sixteen

819
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: or forty eight opponents are, and yet they're losing the

820
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Speaker 2: time of possession thirty two, almost thirty three minutes per

821
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Speaker 2: game to twenty seven because opponents aren't getting to third down.

822
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: They've given up yes, yeah, seventy nine first downs this season.

823
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: They have seventy five. We have a pretty good This

824
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: is a good Dallas offense.

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00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: It is, even if they don't run the ball. Well,

826
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: it's a good offense. Yeah, right, And.

827
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: They've given up more first downs than what they have.

828
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: Opponents are also six of nine on fourth downs, yeah

829
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 2: against them, that's in four games.

830
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Speaker 3: I mention that too. Yeah, the money downs haven't been

831
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: good to them, you know, fourth down wise.

832
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 2: They can full it's they allow four point six yards

833
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: per carry and average three point five.

834
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Speaker 3: So this is another team like the team that Steers

835
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: have played, the Colts. They play too much defense. I mean,

836
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: they're out there too much, and even if the offense

837
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: is good, the running game doesn't protect them enough. And

838
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: that doesn't that's not necessarily why Parsons and Lawrence got hurt, but.

839
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: Now they are.

840
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: It's only gonna get worse, you know, And just in

841
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: terms of wear and tear on your body over the

842
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: course of the game, over the course of the season,

843
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: especially those big people, you know, like we mentioned, I mean,

844
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: I would do everything possible to keep as many of

845
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: their big people on the field as long as possible,

846
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: you know, and run as many plays adam as possible,

847
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: because that would be a real fear for me.

848
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Speaker 2: You're gonna be low on the depth chart another stat

849
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: that jumps so special teams they rank very high.

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00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: No, say they're good.

851
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, In fact, they're number one in DVOA and special team.

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00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: I looked at PFF they were two, okay, right, Yeah.

853
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: Turpin is averaging nineteen point two yards per punt return. Wow,

854
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on there.

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00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: However, he has a sixty yard touchdown on a punt return.

857
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: Their opponents are averaging fifteen point four yards per punt returns,

858
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: So you're averaging nineteen point two yards per punt return

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00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 2: and you still only have a four yard advantage.

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Speaker 3: There, right right, And they're good. Their kicker carries a

861
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: lot of weight with the special teams too. Yeah, I

862
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: mean he's probably the best in the league right now.

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Speaker 2: Well to that point, they've returned eight kickoffs already this year.

864
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: The Steelers have one. Everybody's kicking the ball to the

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Speaker 2: end zone. They have allowed opponents to return eight.

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Speaker 3: It must be a philosophical thing, a bigger leg.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now they've covered those. Well, they're only giving up

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Speaker 2: twenty three point five yards, but that return that's work.

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Speaker 2: The long is only thirty one yards against him. This

870
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: would be a game you'd love to have Jaylen Warren

871
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: and Cordero Patterson hooks.

872
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: They might have neither, and you might have neither all right,

873
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: because it sounds like they're going to kick to you. Yeah,

874
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 3: they must feel like they can cover it. And again,

875
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 3: I'm not a kicking specialist, but Aubrey's a special dude.

876
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

877
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: Obviously he could kick it out of the end zone

878
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 3: at Heinesfield on Sunday if he wanted to. Yeah, I mean,

879
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 3: he's got a humongous leg. But maybe he's just really

880
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: really good at putting, putting the ball exactly exactly where

881
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: you want it, and maybe he can put it in

882
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: the corner or everything's inside the one.

883
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, or he's able to. Because the weird thing about

884
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: is like people are like, well, just squib kick it. Well,

885
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: you can't squip kick.

886
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 3: This depends where it lands.

887
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: It's got to land, still have to land inside the

888
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: twenty on squip. The first time the ball touches the

889
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: ground that has to be in the landing zone, which

890
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: is the twenty to the goal line. It's really hard

891
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: to do.

892
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, And other people are like, well, just put great

893
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: hangtime on it.

894
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Either right, it still can't The defense still can't move

895
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: until the ball is touched, not.

896
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: Till it's kicked. Until it's touched, right, That doesn't do

897
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: any good.

898
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: So you'd love to have Cordero Patterson and Jaylen Warren

899
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: available for this game.

900
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I assume their kick coverage is really good.

901
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: And one thing I was really impressed with. I know

902
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: he's not with the team anymore, but right the Steeler

903
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: kicker from the training camp. At training camp, he was

904
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: really good at kicking close still a line drive and

905
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: how we're on YouTube. I can do this. The ball

906
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: would do.

907
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: This, yeah, and it's like a whirly bird.

908
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: It's like a whirllybird, like a like a frisbee almost,

909
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: you know, and that would be hard to feeld, you know.

910
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: He also kicked one it like curved. Yeah, yeah, he

911
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: had some fund. He's like a curve ball that okay,

912
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: it was an accident, Yeah, when it hits.

913
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, maybe Aubrey has some tricks up to sleep.

914
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, he might. Yeah, And you know, I

915
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: talked to Cordell Patterson last week about that. On Friday.

916
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: We had a nice chat and he said, you know,

917
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: the chances to get returns are going to come, you know,

918
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: whether it's when the weather changes or whatever, you know

919
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: here in Pittsburgh or whatever. You just have to be

920
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: ready for it, he said. But you know, the kickers

921
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: are so good now. Yeah, they can put the ball

922
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 2: where they want to put it. Everybody's got the leg

923
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 2: to kick it out of the end zone they really want.

924
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: To, and they're only going to get better at it.

925
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

926
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: I mean you kicking. Some of these guys haven't practiced

927
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: as much because I bothered before this year. You know

928
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 3: where punters have been doing it forever.

929
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 2: Now you just get the driver out and a lot

930
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: of teams are just kicking it out of the end zone.

931
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: Particularly against Steel. It's just one return for them in

932
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: the first four games. And it's interesting that Dallas isn't though. Yeah,

933
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: but they've made it work thus far.

934
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: If Patterson Warren aren't out there, I would assume there

935
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: will be kickoff returns.

936
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so something something to be I would assume it

937
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: would be Shampling and and and maybe if they bring

938
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: up another running back, maybe Ward or someone like that

939
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: comes up.

940
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna dress three. Yeah, and through preseason there

941
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: was a lot of those guys got a chance chances. Yeah. Yeah,

942
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: they've worked at it. But if I'm Dallas, I'm good

943
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: at kick the return covering kicks. I'm definitely kicking those.

944
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Something to keep an eye on. Jordan Thomas and

945
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: Turpin are there their two main guys. I don't think.

946
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: Turpan's dangerous with the ball in his hands.

947
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: Ever been thirty four and a half yards per return.

948
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: I think you just kick away from those guys booted

949
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: through the end zone.

950
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: That probably the driver out.

951
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's an easy solution. Yeah.

952
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: Just that's interesting that probably some.

953
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: Things to keep an eye on. I mean that's just

954
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: been the norm for what we've seen from the Steelers

955
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: opponents thus far. And again, if if Patterson's not out

956
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: there for sure, I mean the one kickoff they do

957
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: have was by Warren. Nobody's letting Patterson return return one

958
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: yet that's playing with fire.

959
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: Boswell and Aubrey might be the two best kickers in

960
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: the league right now. They very well may be. You know,

961
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: Aubrey is thus far miss twelve or thirteen. By the way,

962
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: Chris Boswell named the AFC Special Teams Player of the

963
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: Month today, was he yeah, great, very deserving. Yeah, but

964
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: they both have big legs, accuracy and yeah, so all

965
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: that stuff. Yeah, they're dynamite.

966
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so keep an eye on that part of special

967
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 2: teams here because Dallas is good.

968
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Yeah. I didn't think that far

969
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: into it, but apparently they're punt returns are good. Punt

970
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: return aloud is.

971
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: Not their punter. Bryan Anger too is averaging fifty one

972
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: and a half yards per kick.

973
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: So he's been around a long time.

974
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can. He can boom the ball. So yeah,

975
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: if this you don't want to turn into necessarily a

976
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: field position game.

977
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: But you knows things too.

978
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't take advantage of that Dallas defense in

979
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: some of those situations. And but don't give them short fields.

980
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: Right, I mean that's gonna hurt you.

981
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to complete some passes.

982
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 3: I mean, they're not going to score three point seven

983
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 3: points at one point. I mean they're going to score

984
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: some points. Yeah, he's too good a quarterback.

985
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Let's get to another break that's going to do

986
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: it for our number one of the drive here on

987
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,440
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988
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