1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: world headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, HECKM. Harrison, 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: de Montrey Moore, and newist Scrugs. 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, it is time for the Player's Lounge. Welcome 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: in here to the Star in Fresco, SWBC podcast Studios 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: in Frisco, Texas, national headquarters of Dallas Cowboys. Here. Heck 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: Harrison is here. Trey Moore for Dallas Cowboy is here. 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: I am new he Scruggs. The show is brought to 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 3: you by Aristocrat Gaming. Free agency is going on here 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: and the Cowboys have been very active. So I'll start 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: with you. 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 4: HEC. 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: Harrison. Are you happy with what you've seen so far? Early? 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: I'm not. 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: I'm not, and I think that we were going to 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 4: make some moves. I felt like we were. 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: I was new. 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: Y'all was looking for like the rest of the Cowboy Nation, 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: I'm looking for game changers, and I didn't. The selective 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 4: aggressiveness is that the word? 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: Is it? Selective? Okay? Selective? 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: Aggressive and trying to decipher what that actually meant. I 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: think I'm getting the definition. We're going to bring in 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: guys that are going to be rotational pieces here early, 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 4: and it's early. I understand that you still got a 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: long way to go, right, but I'm still looking at 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: this team and saying, Okay, based off of your overall needs, 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: you haven't hit the free agent market strong enough to 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: get those guys that I believe, Okay, as a defensive lineman, 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: the offensive guard, or these guys are going to be 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 4: difference makers for this team. They're going to be the 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: cog in the wheel that's actually going to get you 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: to that next level. And that's what we've been looking for. 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: That's what we've been asking for at least so no 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: so far. I think if I was going to grade 39 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: where we are right now, I would go see minus 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 4: Trey Man man he came in hot. 41 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 5: Honestly I would probably I wouldn't be as crucial. I 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 5: would say it's about maybe a C plus B right now. 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 5: For me, being a journeyman, it hits it hits home 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 5: for me when you you're coming in and people are saying, oh, 45 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 5: that wasn't the big name guy like some of these 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 5: guys that you bringing in are pretty their quality pieces. 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 5: They've shown at different times that they can make plays. 48 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 5: You know, you got Solomon Thomas coming in. I'm biased, 49 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 5: you know I played with him, hard working guy, coming home, 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 5: playing for the hometown, being of. 51 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: A Cockpel cowboy, now Dallas cowboy. 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 5: I think that can light a new spark behind you 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 5: because we got to remember that this guy was the 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: first round pick. He's been on, he's been to Super Bowls, 55 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 5: he's gotten the big bag. So this guy can transform 56 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 5: into somebody. And then as far as the running backs situation, 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 5: we all y'all know how I feel about that. 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't it was It wasn't. 59 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 5: It wasn't it wasn't the big It wasn't a big splash. 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 5: It's funny because I looked up that the Cowboys haven't 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 5: brought in anybody and paid them outside of the house 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 5: since Greg Hardy. And so it's like, man like, when 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 5: you think about these numbers, you got to go pay 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 5: to get that quality in. So for you to go 65 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 5: get the running back that you got, it's like, hold 66 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 5: on you bringing a guy that had less than a 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 5: thousand yards and you let go a thousand yard running 68 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 5: back this in house like talent like that for what 69 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 5: three million dollars shorter and you have the production, So 70 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 5: I guess it balances out. But for me, it's like, 71 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 5: when you don't have that many key opponents, why let 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 5: these people leave the building. And then two, like you said, 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 5: if we're gonna let these people leave the building, I'm 74 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 5: expecting you to bring in somebody and make that big splash. 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 5: And this big splash did not happen. Every team Every 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 5: year they have to have that big splash, whether it's 77 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 5: in free agency or whether it's in the draft. And 78 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 5: so I don't want to sit here and say, oh, 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 5: we're waiting or this and that. They added certain pieces, 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 5: like it's still late. There are still some big name 81 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 5: players that are out there that maybe you can go 82 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 5: spend for, but historically speaking, it hasn't shown that. So 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 5: if it ends here and it goes on that same path, yeah, 84 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 5: I'm a little upset. 85 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: And it's like, oh, it's like lust. 86 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 5: They're like for the Cowboys where they want to be 87 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 5: for all the hype that's behind it being America's team. 88 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: Where's America's player? 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: You didn't bring them in and then you haven't paid 90 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 5: America's player and Michael Parson and that, you. 91 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: Know, just adding that tibbot in there. 92 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 5: So it's like, hold on, I'm trying to be graceful 93 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 5: and say, hey, maybe they haven't went out and paid 94 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 5: somebody that big bag because they're aware they're gonna have 95 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: to pay Michael. And then if they keep waiting the 96 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 5: way that they're waiting, all these guys, Miles Garrett, all 97 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 5: these other guys that keep raising that bar to where 98 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 5: you didn't have to give them that much to now 99 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 5: that bag is getting hirged. So maybe you can't make 100 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 5: that splash and free agency. So I'm trying to be 101 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: patient on it. But right now C plus maybe be 102 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 5: minus because you did add in an offensive guard. You 103 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 5: did add in some more rotational pieces as far as 104 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: d Lineman, you got your you gotta running back right now. 105 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 5: You still got other things you need to address in 106 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 5: the draft. But yeah, it's a little lackluster right now. 107 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: Me make sure I get this trait listening to you too, y'all. 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: Greg Hardy in twenty fifteen was the last time they 109 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: went out there and made his flash. Yeah, ten years 110 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: and you expected it to change this year this year? No, No, 111 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: I'm not. Why why why I'm not? 112 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 5: Why would you you wouldn't because, like you said, we 113 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 5: see how that situation went, and it's like, ah, I 114 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 5: got this is who they are, right, and that is 115 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 5: who they are. 116 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: They are right. But you got decade, deca now know 117 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: you we're going shopping kids, they drive past that mall? 118 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 5: What then you can pass the mall? You go past 119 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 5: Big T Where are we going? Hold on, we're going 120 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 5: to the discount outlet. Man, you get some stuff over 121 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 5: the warehouse. You're going past Burlin warehouse. But you got 122 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 5: to look for it. You got to it's bargain shopping 123 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 5: and you better be looking. And you could find some 124 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 5: good pieces in the bargain shopping. But you can't get 125 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 5: everything from the bargain shop. You gotta get that one 126 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 5: focal piece. When you dress, it's like, okay, cheap the 127 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 5: chief shirt, but hey, my necklace is going to be that. 128 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: Oh hey, my watch is going to be that. 129 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 5: Thecessory piece, like where's thecessory piece for the cowboys? 130 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: Is where I'm asking. But we know they're not going 131 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: in free agency the first week and signing a name. 132 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: We got a decade now, now, hard, we got a decade. Now, 133 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: don't look for that. What they will do is what, 134 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: let's find complimentary pieces guys can fit here. I will 135 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: say this if I'm Mike McCarthy, m senior, can I 136 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: had some of this last year. A couple of pieces 137 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 3: last year helped me out. I'm not it's going to 138 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: be the second week if they go and find a 139 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: quote unquote name that you're familiar with to say, hey, 140 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 3: maybe this guy can do something here or there. As 141 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: far as the running back goes here, Rico Donald going 142 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: to Carolina for basically the same money that Javonte Williams got. 143 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: Here's what I will would love to know. Where were 144 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: those Where were they at in the negotiation? Where was ricoing? 145 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: Where were they at that they decided to say, you 146 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: know what, man Rico, thank you, thank you, We're going 147 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: to go over here to Javonte Williams, who is also 148 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: a better third down back in terms of catching the football. 149 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: I think all three of us are in agreement that 150 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: the first two days a running back needs to be. 151 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 5: Selected, of course, of course without a doubt. 152 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: And I'm a I'm thinking and if we kind of 153 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: go with what we've seen with backs drafted that high 154 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: this should probably be your RB one. So RB one 155 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: out of the draft. Javonte Williams third down back coming 156 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: in here? Can I live with that? I can live 157 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: with that. You covered Ashton Genty, you want to tell 158 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: me it's Ashton Genty, and then I got Javonte Williams 159 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: here coming on the third. Would you would that upset you? 160 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: Well, Ashton Gensey will be the starter and they would 161 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: be RB one and Williams would be RB two. I 162 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: wouldn't have a problem with it. And I think when 163 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 4: you asked the question about what happened in the Rico 164 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: Dowble negotiations, I think the negotiation was only only went 165 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: as far as we were thirty second in the league 166 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: in rushing touchdowns. So the script, the narrative wrote itself, 167 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: there's nothing more to add. And here's the thing. When 168 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: you take a running back like Saquon Barkley and you 169 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: put him when he was with the Giants, and he 170 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 4: runs for eleven hundred yards in the Giants offense, then 171 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 4: your quarterback with no quarterback and b minus offensive line. 172 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: But then I'm sorry, I'm okay. 173 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 4: But then you take him and you send him over 174 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 4: to Philly, and now he's a two thousand yard rusher. 175 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 176 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: Let's take Rico Dawdle in this offense. Last year ran 177 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: for one thousand yards. Okay, that is documented even with 178 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: the lack of touchdowns, that his ability to hit paydir 179 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 4: Javonte Williams. You put Javonte Williams in this offense, he 180 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: scored four touchdowns last year. Would he would he have 181 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 4: more success in this offense. If we're talking about offensive line, 182 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 4: I think we're going to give our offensive line plus 183 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 4: se minus and them. 184 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: But I always talking about now, okay, either way. 185 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 4: Either way, what I'm saying is you could take running 186 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 4: backs all around the league and put them in different 187 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: offenses and they will have success. All Right, I'm saying 188 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 4: to you, Look, I just think that Javonte Williams is 189 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: a better running back based off just based off of 190 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: what I've seen from him. The way that he attacks holes, 191 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: the way I mean just on third down. Those are 192 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: different things that we did not get from Rico. And 193 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to be I don't want to have 194 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 4: recency bias. I don't want to see a guy after 195 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: the fact that go, oh, he's valuable to us. We 196 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: should have kept held on to him. No, we need 197 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: game changes. And there were plenty of games Montre that 198 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: we went through. We watched and it was like, damn, 199 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: if we just had a halfway serviceable running back, that 200 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: could be the difference in this game, playoff games the same. 201 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 5: This is true, And I'm not defending letting Rico go because, 202 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 5: like I said, you can always get better. You can 203 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 5: go find those guys that are undrafted, free agent fish 204 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 5: round pick that are out there doing it and that 205 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 5: are coming in to be starters. But the good teams, 206 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 5: the teams that I've been a part of, we all 207 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 5: know that yes, you have your your star power guy, 208 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: but then you have that second guy, but then you. 209 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: Got to have depth. 210 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 5: Why not you you're telling me you couldn't have both 211 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: of them on that on that you couldn't have Rico 212 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 5: and bring in uh him to know. 213 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't think. 214 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: And the reason I'm saying it is because I think 215 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 4: you were going to go into this draft and you 216 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 4: were going to get a running back anyway. 217 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes you do. But that's heckman. And I are 218 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: sitting here like the RB one is going to come 219 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: day one or day two. Oh no, and you. You 220 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 3: played in the league, so you know that's probably one 221 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: of the easiest positions to come in as a rookie. 222 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 5: And b a like. It definitely is, And so that's 223 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 5: why I said, I'm not really tripping about that. When 224 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: I was alluding to letting stars go. I'm talking about 225 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: more so Jordan Lewis, like we letting him go. 226 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: But just the words you just use start star, what 227 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: what what? Rushing down star one rushing touchdown? Yeah, yeah, exactly. 228 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 5: That's why I said with the reasoning I would have personally, 229 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 5: if I can keep them here, and I could have 230 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 5: low bought them or maybe gave him five mil er 231 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 5: four mil and been like, hey you stay here. I'm like, 232 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 5: hey four hey man, I'm gonna have a competition. You 233 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 5: got to make it out of training camp, get airline? 234 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 5: How many how many times? Well, I mean, I'm just saying, 235 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 5: how many times have you paid somebody and then they 236 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 5: not make it out of the training camp? Like I 237 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 5: would have brought them. I personally, I would have just 238 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 5: brought them back in. But that's why I don't get 239 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: paid the big bucks. 240 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: This is another thing that we have to also and 241 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: it gets not confuter. It just gets lost at times. 242 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy wasn't trying to run, No, not at all. 243 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: Schottenheimer's trying to run. And then when I think about 244 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: running and you're a you were former defensive lineman, Javonte 245 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: Williams is going to be a different type of look 246 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: versus most likely what you're going to take at RB one. 247 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 3: So the ability to bring in more let's just say 248 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: it's gent more of a Brahma bull kind of guy. 249 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: Then Javonta Williams a little different, especially on the third 250 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: down package. If I'm shoddy, I'm trying to run the ball, 251 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: but also give you a couple of different looks as 252 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: I'm doing it, which is what Skip Pete always loved 253 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: to have when he was here, when you had Zeke Elliott, 254 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: and then you have Tony Pollard, he and you know, 255 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: and even in what they do in Tampa, and then 256 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: what Skip Pete was doing with Oakland, I thought, and 257 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: I still think that's a good way to go about 258 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 3: your running game. But Schottenheimer is going to be different. 259 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 3: And when I look at ric o'dowdell, what does Rico 260 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: bring you to tell? You know? And you what's he doing? Nothing? Nothing? 261 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: So now he's a jag. He's just a guy. And 262 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: and that's why I said, what was the conversation like, 263 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: because just a guy should have signed for just some 264 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: gags exactly, And that's why I'm trying to figure out. 265 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: Now it's real. 266 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: No, and listen, I'm not absolutely not firing any shots 267 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 4: of guys. This is about making the Dallas Cowboys better. 268 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: We are underachieving, and if we keep sitting here and 269 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: saying to ourselves that these C minus guys are going 270 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: to get us eight plus results, then we're fooling ourselves. 271 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: And I'm not about fooling myself anymore. That's all I'm saying. 272 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: You're talking about what Skip Skip Pete's philosophy is having 273 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 4: a change of pace running back. So to me, I'm hey, 274 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 4: William says to me, I'm your third down guy. So 275 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 4: whoever you get in the draft, he's gonna be your slasher. 276 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 4: He's gonna be your guy that's gonna get up in there, 277 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: and he's gonna be your game breaker. We didn't get 278 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 4: any game breakers in free agency to me, and that 279 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: leads up to the draft being the end all, to 280 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 4: be all, and I just having trusted the draft in 281 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: the last couple of years of bringing in that end all, 282 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 4: the be. 283 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: All type of guy, Michael Parson. 284 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: That was I mean that guy fail to you, you, 285 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: and he failed, he failed to you, just like Seed 286 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: Lamb fail to you. And it's almost impossible to make 287 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: a bad decision when a guy falls to you. So well, 288 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 4: look at the teams who didn't take them exactly, the 289 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: teams who passed. 290 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: I mean the teams who passed on Michael, the teams 291 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: who on CD. 292 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 4: They are slapping themselves. They are slapping themselves because they 293 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: they made a mistake. Let's not I'm not sitting here 294 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 4: acting like teams don't make mistakes Draft night Now we're 295 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 4: the only ones to do it. 296 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: No, no, no, this is documented, all right. 297 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: But I'm saying, when you get a situation where you 298 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: have a player that good and if hey at twelve, 299 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 4: if you have the kid from Penn State fall to 300 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: fall to twelve, go get them. Okay, you get one 301 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 4: of my offensive linemen fall to you as well, Go 302 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: get them. I mean, because that's just fortune being on 303 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: your side. 304 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: And I think that's also by plugging some of the 305 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: holes that they plugged, you're allowing yourself at twelve to 306 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: have several lives. And that's exactly what I'm saying. 307 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 5: That's why I don't want to be as harsh as 308 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 5: say that they're a C plus or B because those 309 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 5: you added coggs, You added cogs and you fix like 310 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 5: these little small knees. Now, it gives you alleviate some 311 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 5: of that pain and that pressure to say, Okay, we 312 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 5: got to go over here and do this, we can 313 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 5: do this. We could take our time and make that 314 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 5: right decision. So with free agency still going on, there's 315 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 5: still chances and there's still some big name out there, 316 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 5: guys out there that you can go get and you 317 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 5: add to the offense or defense. And then therefore, once 318 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 5: you go there, you're gonna kind of see going to 319 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 5: get closer to the draft, Like, okay, now that we 320 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 5: do to fix those pieces in free agency. 321 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: We know where we're going. We're either going to running 322 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: back or linebacker. 323 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 4: I just want to say this that the moves and 324 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying Solomon Thomas is solid and I saw the 325 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: signing as a rotational piece the linebackers that they bought 326 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: in the guy from Chicago saying, man, I think he's 327 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: been a part of eba Flus's defense. So that makes sense. 328 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: That's like Eric Kendricks last year with Mike Zimmer. You 329 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: bring in a guy that already knows Kenneth Murray Junior. 330 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: I think that's a solid signing, right He is a 331 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 4: guy that can give you some depth and some pieces there. 332 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: But I haven't seen like when we're If you're not on, 333 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: I don't care who you are. I don't care if 334 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: you played in the league. I don't care if you 335 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 4: got Emmys. 336 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: I don't care. 337 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: If you're going into this season with the Dallas Cowboys 338 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: and you're not saying that the Cowboys need offensive defensive 339 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: line help, then you're not seeing what the NFC is 340 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: all about right now. NFC East is all about right 341 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: now because teams like New York, Hey, New York, The 342 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: New York Giants got better on defense, The Washington Commanders 343 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: got better on defense, the fifth Hey, the World. 344 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: Champs are better. 345 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: Okay, So if we're not talking about offensive defensive line, 346 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: because those are the weakest parts of your team right now. 347 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: Let's hit the brake when we come back. The Cowboys 348 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: have said goodbye to Tank Lawrence. How do we feel 349 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: about it? And what's next? We may have different reactions 350 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: about this. 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When you win 411 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: national championship. Should be appreciation. Brother, I'm sure they offered you. 412 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: No they didn't. 413 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 5: I wish they started talking to me and they had 414 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 5: Mike Davis and then all of a sudden, I was 415 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 5: already committed to the A M though, so but I 416 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 5: did secretly. I was like, oh, just just knocking my 417 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 5: door a little bit harder and we can have a conversation. 418 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 5: But they knew I was maroon now, baby. The best 419 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: thing smoking we was out there rolling. 420 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: Boy. 421 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 5: You see what happened the first year in the s 422 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 5: cecy boy, they got us little kiddy Paul. 423 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: Hear that. Leave it alone, dudes, just come on with 424 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 3: you next time. What you said, we talking about other 425 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: people right now? School alone. We're doing good. Ladyslams brought 426 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 3: to you by the Game. Yes, yes, that's he is 427 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: Trey More for his A and m Aggie Proud Giant 428 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 3: and Dallas Cowboys. My man, I am new. He scrugs, 429 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: so hec Harrison. Yes, sir, how we feeling now that 430 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: Tank Lawrence is a member of the Seattle Seahawks three years, 431 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 3: forty two million dollars for an older football player on 432 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: the wrong side of thirty. 433 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, let me just say Marcus Lawrence, 434 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: the Marcus Lawren's out of Boise stage literally gave us 435 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: everything for the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, and a guy 436 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: that I credit coach leon Let for developing him making 437 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: turning him into the player that he is, and he 438 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 4: ended up being great at stopping the run. Gave us 439 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: a lot of years man. And I know a lot 440 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: of times when guys leave, it's easy to throw shade 441 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: or say what what they were were not right. I'm 442 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: just gonna say he was a great player, a great 443 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: leader on and off the field, and hate to see 444 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 4: him go. But at thirty two years old to get 445 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: a fourteen eighteen million dollar bag for one year, I 446 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: think that is incredible, and that is incredible and there are 447 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: a lot of players that have played this game that 448 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: are jealous about that bag. Right now, out yourself, I'm 449 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 4: gonna tell you, I'm a speak I'm a standover. 450 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 5: I'm thirty two, and I'm sitting over here like I 451 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 5: look good. I might even go out here and tell 452 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 5: the EA right that way, let me let me talk 453 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 5: to you. But that's another topic for another day. But exactly, 454 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 5: but go ahead keep finishing. 455 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: No man, I mean, it is what it is. 456 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 4: He did his thing, he got paid and shout out 457 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 4: to the to the Lawrence family, and it's one of 458 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 4: those players, man you hate to see leave and hope 459 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: that he has success. 460 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 5: Definitely, I'm gonna piggyback off of that. As far as 461 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 5: like the player and the person, Hey shout out to 462 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 5: my boy D law Hey, hot boys all there. As 463 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 5: a player, you love when you see players get paid, 464 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 5: especially at this age. Now, whoever his agent is, hats 465 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 5: off to them. You went in there with no ski 466 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 5: mask and said, hey, drop out right now. 467 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: It was a for D law He won Seattle. 468 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 5: I think it was definitely a reach as far as 469 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 5: the age range and stuff like that. But as far 470 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 5: as what he has done for the Cowboys organization, don't 471 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 5: be surprised if you don't see Tank Lawren's name and 472 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 5: the ring of Honor because of what he was able 473 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 5: to do. Him being somebody that you brought in your 474 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 5: own talent. You can put your hand on your face 475 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 5: all you want to knew, Like as a run stopper. 476 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 5: He's been that focal piece for them like he has been. 477 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 5: He's made what he's made, he's made those. 478 00:23:53,840 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 4: He's made things. But Ringavon, that's rich Rick, It's rich rich. 479 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous, ridiculous. 480 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 5: You don't think he's gonna be one of those old 481 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 5: guys later on you get that phone call and be 482 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 5: like a. 483 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 3: Tank for what people do it all the time. 484 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'm all right, maybe okay, maybe I'm maybe 485 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 5: all right, maybe I'm reach It's okay. 486 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: How long has he been here? How long has he 487 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: been here? So somebody put on social media and double 488 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: it a few times? I hit back. They said that 489 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 3: Tank was the most underrated cowboy in history, and you've 490 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: now talked about Cowboy Ring of Honor? Yeah, do you 491 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: realize what they what the criteria is to get in 492 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: there and who's in it? Okay, I'm sorry, I apologize. 493 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: Super Bowl champions Hall of Famers, those are the people 494 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: that go into the Cowboys Ring of Honor. Okay, now, no, no, no, 495 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: no, no apology needed because because this is this is my ability, 496 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: because you're a young guy. You're a young guy. Please 497 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: where me back into Hechmanni's time watching the Cowboys. The 498 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: most underrated Dallas cowboy and he, oh, by the way, 499 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: is not in the Ring of Honor and should be 500 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: is the beautiful Harvey Martin. Harvey Martin was a Defensive 501 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: Player of the Year nineteen seventy seven three. He was 502 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,239 Speaker 3: also co MVP of Super Bowl twelve along with the 503 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 3: great legendary Randy White. When I think of Hall of 504 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: Fame and he's got over a hundred sacks in his career, 505 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: that is a player who should be. I can't imagine 506 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: another organization outside of this one that would not have 507 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: put Harvey Martin already into their Ring of Honor for 508 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: a career like that. Tank Lawrence had a good career. 509 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: The problem of not doing anything significant in the last 510 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: thirty years is people start using the words like legend, 511 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: as I saw many times with disappointed Cowboy fans with 512 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 3: Tank Lawrence leaving. Tank Lawrence was a good football player. 513 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: He was a part of these teams who won nothing. 514 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: He was a part of these teams that teased us 515 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 3: that never got over the hump. It was the Yoda 516 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: do or do not? There is no try group thirty 517 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 3: two years old. Congratulations to you and your agents forgetting 518 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: this deal. But the problem I have with this is 519 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: Jerry through the years has gone out of his way 520 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: to pay this type of player when at a certain 521 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: point in time you need to move on. Once again, 522 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: you're young, But there was a gentleman here play left 523 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 3: tackle for many years named Flosel Adams. Probably stay ain't 524 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: about three or four years too long because they were 525 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: afraid to look forward. Remember, don't do me like that. 526 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: And when Flow left they were forced and they drafted 527 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: Tyron Smith, who is a guy you want to talk about, 528 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 3: potential Hall of Famer. He's got that type of resume 529 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: that could be that you could think about in those terms. 530 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 3: TI knees a gold jacket. I don't care what he'll 531 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: be in the conversation. You know, when they sit around 532 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: here and discuss who's in the Hall of Fame, they'll 533 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: have a conversation for Tyres. There will be no conversation 534 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: for taking once once once again. 535 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 5: After you just gave me a nice BTA session, I 536 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 5: apologize and only only and but I'm also going to 537 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 5: defend what I said. Hey, I was wrong, But with 538 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 5: me being younger and stuff like that, we all can 539 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 5: admit that the Cowboy is their organization that goes off 540 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 5: of the media, the outside noise, what's going out there. 541 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 5: And so with that being said, for Tank in this 542 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 5: error to do the things that he done, to play 543 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: here for as long as he did, to get the 544 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 5: bag that he did and be a fan favorite, I 545 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 5: think that now knowing who's not in there and they 546 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 5: could be in there, Yes, of course he should not 547 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 5: be in there, but I think that, like you said, 548 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 5: the fan base will be sitting there saying, legendary, this 549 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 5: is one of our guys. In the last thirty years, 550 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 5: we haven't had anything to be proud of. So we're 551 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 5: proud of developing him as a player. We're proud of 552 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 5: him always representing the Cowboys, having those legendary moments of 553 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 5: sitting there saying, hey, real talk, being unapologetically him bringing 554 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 5: back that old cowboy era feeling of hey, we're the 555 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 5: bad boy. What did he say to the media one day, 556 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 5: Hey real talk, y'all don't know, but I'll slap all 557 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 5: y'all like, don't Having those iconic moments are going to 558 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 5: push the fan base to say, hey, push them in there. 559 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: Now. We all know that the Jones. 560 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 5: Family don't budge when they don't want to budge, like 561 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 5: just because you bark at them and doing all that. 562 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 5: But I'm saying that they will put that pressure on there. 563 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 5: So from that standpoint, I was coming from there. I 564 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 5: was coming from him playing for a long time and 565 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 5: being a good guy. 566 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 4: But after the criteria, the criteria, you're right right, super 567 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: Bowls in his hall of fame. That's the only way 568 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 4: you make it. And for me, it's his leadership. It's 569 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: the kind of guy I look at guys like this. 570 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 4: You know, there's so many of these guys over the 571 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: years that have been menaces outside of the building that 572 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 4: hasn't been him. He's been a family man, he's taking 573 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: care of his business. He's been in a community, active activists. 574 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 4: He's done a lot of great things leadership wise, He's 575 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 4: led the charge on you know, every time the Cowboys 576 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: a problem with Micah, with up the guys, with showing 577 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: them how to be pros in this league. 578 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: And that's what I applaud for him. 579 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 4: Okay, And to see him again his agent, the people 580 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: involved Seattle to say that hey, maybe there's still some 581 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: juice on the vine. Let's go ahead and bring him 582 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: in the eighteen million dollars. 583 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: That is a lot. 584 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 4: But at the same time, I applaud any player at 585 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: this point in time in their career that's able to 586 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 4: go out and get a bag. 587 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 5: And now that we applauded him, gave him a flower, 588 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 5: let's talk about stat wise. Do you think that he 589 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: deserved that bag and do you think that he's going 590 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: to live up to that bag? 591 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: I think, coming off of the injuries that he's had, 592 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: if he look Okay, let me just say like this, 593 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 4: the NFC West is a weaker division with San Francisco 594 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 4: moving on the way that they have, and so I 595 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 4: think he'll have some success in the NFC West. 596 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: Okay, So that's what I think. I think. 597 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 4: I think Tank, if he's healthy, he could come in 598 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: and he can have some Don't don't you go to 599 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: they just saying to you that, hey, he can start 600 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 4: the season off. 601 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: That's literally all you do that you're gonna go around 602 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: the way he's waltson what you're doing. I don't know, 603 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: you have sweet feet like gonna do that? You know 604 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: she's smart and then she she just says some funny things. Boy, 605 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: she comes into a room and lights it up all 606 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 3: the time. People really like her all right out there. 607 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, man, he could have some success. Shout out 608 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: the thing paid so long, sir, farewell. 609 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 5: But now we got to talk about who is coming in, 610 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 5: who's going to replace that. 611 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: What you've got now is you have the first thing. 612 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: And this is what they do is they're looking inside. Okay, 613 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: you've got Marshall Neeland who they drafted, you're number two, 614 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: and then you're gonna have Sam Williams coming back, so 615 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: they're going to look there. And then of course you 616 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 3: have the ability to go into the draft as well. 617 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 3: So this is where as they or to look down 618 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 3: the road at twelve, what do they do? They could 619 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: you know, and we don't talk about it. 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No no no, it looks 708 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 4: leather from it's sway looks good. 709 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: Cowskin looks good, looks good. 710 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 5: Ever no no, no, no, no no no okay, leathers, leathers, 711 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 5: smooth rubbery. Okay, you see you see the you see 712 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 5: the fur. 713 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 3: It's nice. Did you come in on. 714 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 5: The Harley what about you don't do that now. 715 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 4: I got on my I got on my first grade 716 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 4: teacher cowboy sweater today. 717 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: Come on, man, it's ventus though, thank you. Hey man, 718 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: I just want to be like you. 719 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to do something when you had a 720 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 5: questions noted bullying. 721 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 3: I know I messed up with the ring on her comment. 722 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 10: Guy, We just we just y'all, we just checked, just 723 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 10: a little check. Now it's like, let just get messed 724 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 10: up just like that. W hold on, hold hold on. 725 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 5: But what you did was going to be w w E. 726 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 5: Y'all just hit the Dudly brothers. You told him get 727 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 5: the table. 728 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: Next thing you. 729 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 4: Climbing up and he's climbing up, and he said, I'm 730 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 4: gonna just give you idea. I did the Homo Simpsons. 731 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 4: I just disappeared into the shrubs. Then already pin me 732 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 4: is once we come back from break, you give me 733 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 4: another kick. 734 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 3: Like it really wasn't about you. It was really more 735 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 3: my my social media engagement with a guy who said, 736 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 3: you know, when he said Tank was the most underrated 737 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: cowboy in history, that was like no, no, no, once again, definitely, 738 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 3: and I attribute to say youngster youngsters who don't remember 739 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 3: the beautiful heart on art, don't group all of us together. 740 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: And and but I'm just saying that was that was more. 741 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: It was, it was more for that. Hey, whoever said that, 742 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 3: don't ever say that again. 743 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 4: Remember Harvey Martin, Yesui gonna come for you, boy, Remember 744 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 4: Harvey get bt a sessions like that? 745 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 3: No more. Here's what I said, Lord help him if 746 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: they con draft into the Harvey park, if you had another. 747 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 11: Harvey, Oh boy boy boy like great Iba, Flus would 748 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 11: get another head coaching job because he'd get a guy 749 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 11: like that who's that dominant on the defensive line. 750 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 3: But heck, you had a question. 751 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 4: My question was is that for many people with the 752 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 4: injuries and everything, and they signed a deal with the 753 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 4: Cowboys two years ago, I believe was it two years 754 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 4: too late for letting go or releasing DeMarcus Lawrence? 755 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, And I go back before. This has been 756 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 3: an issue for Jerry Jones as a general manager. He's 757 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 3: held on the guys too long. And you know, I 758 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: mentioned Flozell Adams who flows Al Adams coming out of 759 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 3: Michigan State and the second round. Flozel had a really 760 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 3: really good career, but toward the end, Jerry just kept 761 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: holding on and the job of a general manager and 762 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 3: they had old baseball term, better to let them go 763 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 3: a year too early than a year too late. Bill 764 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 3: Belichick's your classic example. If a head coach would let 765 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: a guy go too early, I mean Tom Brady being 766 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 3: one of them, and they will ask you better than 767 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 3: two years too late, because now two years too late, 768 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 3: you've spent money, You've you've attached to capital to it, 769 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: especially now with the way the salary cat works. And 770 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 3: you look at Ezekiel Elliott when they ended up cutting 771 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 3: them and the money. I mean, people forget they were 772 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 3: paying twice last year on Zeke. You were paying more 773 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: money under dead cat money because you cut him. Then 774 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: you paid him the actual salary money because when they 775 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 3: cut him two years ago, they had the dead cap 776 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 3: space that they spread out. And so yes, this has 777 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 3: been the issue because the general manager, who's also the owner, 778 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 3: has become affinity and a like to the player. Your 779 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: GM's got to be cutthroat. Your geam's got to see 780 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 3: the glass of water, say, boy, that thing is dirty. 781 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 3: We need to clean it out. And it may be 782 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 3: a crack in the glass. Your general that's what your 783 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: general managing, your owner needs to be to do. Hey, man, 784 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 3: you know what, that's half full. I like that water. 785 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna taste fine, Fans gonna like it. 786 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 3: But when you the same guy you can compete against, yeah, 787 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: who wins out. The owner usually went out of course 788 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: over the general manager because he knows the team and 789 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 3: he may like to play. And then the smart cowboy 790 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: players go right up to the exactly. 791 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 4: That's that's been the history. That's been the history with ownership, 792 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 4: and I think for years people are documented that, you know, 793 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 4: owner general manager Jerry Jones becomes enamored with certain players 794 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 4: and they may hold on too long. 795 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: This I just felt. 796 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 4: I just felt like at the point in time where 797 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 4: Tank Lawrence was in his career, you kind of felt 798 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 4: like you could have gotten more out of him during 799 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 4: those two years, and then the foot injury obviously sidelines everything. 800 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 4: Now the Zeke example is that's an example of another 801 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 4: bad decision bringing back a player that was now a 802 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 4: shadow of himself. And there was no way to know 803 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 4: that other than you make that bad decision. You bring 804 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: and you recognize he ain't what he used to be. 805 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 3: I mean, he wasn't what he used to be when 806 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 3: he was here. 807 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 5: So if you're being if you're being completely honest, you're 808 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 5: you're living on that sword and you're dying on that sword. 809 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 5: Like I love it. As a player, you would love 810 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 5: it when you meet those owners that you say, hey, 811 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 5: you got my back and you're gonna keep me here. 812 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 5: But as a fan, as somebody that wants stat production, 813 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 5: you hate it because, like you said, your job to 814 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 5: be a GM is to be cutthroat, like you want 815 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 5: to let him go early and still get some bang 816 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 5: for your buck to where it's like, hey, if you 817 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 5: would have let Tank go earlier, two years earlier, you 818 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 5: possibly could have got a first round for him. You 819 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 5: possibly could have got second, third round, somebody to pick 820 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 5: up that capital, and then you go over there spread 821 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 5: that money out and then have some high bap picks. 822 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 5: But now it's like you let him go for tools 823 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 5: of fuels and somebody else paid him a big bag, 824 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 5: so it's like, what are we doing? 825 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 3: Go back to Zeke. The thing about Zeke at the 826 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 3: end of the first tenure was you once you decided 827 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 3: to bring in Mike McCarthy as the head coach, a 828 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 3: guy who was a passing guy who never really hit 829 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 3: the Yes, the per contract was it wasn't the same 830 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 3: because what do we see the best of him twenty 831 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 3: plus carries. That's not what Mike McCarthy was trying to do, 832 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 3: and so that was in some ways, I have a 833 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 3: sympathy for Zeke in terms of people, oh man, you're 834 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 3: not this, you're not that. But the game changed once 835 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 3: you brought in Mike McCarthy. His value went down, and 836 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 3: then we saw him as a player dip down too. 837 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: So you got two things happening. One, you're paying a 838 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 3: guy to do something that they're not going to ask 839 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 3: him to do anymore. Too, the talent level just went 840 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 3: down because you're as a running back, you only have 841 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 3: so many hits in the body. And he just wasn't 842 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: the player he used to be, So now it just 843 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 3: turns out to be a whole tough thing. And now 844 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 3: people are killing him personally and not always looking at 845 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 3: the whole thing. Yes, your game has gone down, but oh, 846 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 3: by the way, the head coach is not one of them. Now. 847 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 4: Now here's the thing. At the version of Zeke that 848 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 4: Mike inherited wasn't the Zeke that was on the down 849 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 4: side of his career. 850 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you're still I think till at the end 851 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 3: with his last last year, the last two years he 852 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 3: was there and so you weren't. You weren't. I don't 853 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 3: think you were on the show then. But they Barry 854 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 3: used to call him a fullback, okay, And you said 855 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 3: he sounds like, yeah, he'd gained weight. He wasn't. He 856 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 3: wasn't what he used to be. And Danny was right 857 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 3: there in terms of. 858 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 4: They in twenty twenty he was, though in twenty twenty 859 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 4: he was. He was more of a I mean, I 860 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 4: understand this. 861 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 3: This after this was this was the feeling of the 862 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 3: show at the time. They wasn't. He wasn't what he 863 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 3: used to be, okay, And the head coach came in here. 864 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 3: Obviously it was a disastrous year with Mike Nolan. The 865 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 3: whole thing just it just wasn't what it used to be. 866 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 3: And then on Skip left it was really bad because 867 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 3: now remember Tony Poler started coming up. Remember that Tony 868 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 3: Zeke's last two years, it was clear Tony was the 869 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 3: better player, and then they were doing well, he's a 870 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 3: star running back and that kind of thing. But Tony 871 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 3: was the better player. But they were trying to respect 872 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 3: Ezekiel Elliott what he which, which spits in the face 873 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 3: all day long. And when we talk about competition, yeah 874 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 3: we talking about the best guy playing. 875 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's ever the bag gonna play. I don't care 876 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 4: what nobody say. 877 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 5: There's very few organizations that have that mantra, that competition 878 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 5: is gonna play. And those guys that have that mantra 879 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 5: and really believe in that philosophy are your champion winning organizations. 880 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 5: Other people have the they say competition and stuff like that, 881 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 5: but let's be realistic. 882 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 3: It is the bag. If I pay you this money, 883 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 3: I'm expecting you to play. 884 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 5: And then not only that, they're gonna live and down 885 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 5: that where it say, ah, maybe he's gonna show us 886 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 5: what he was like whoever decided to give them the bag? 887 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 5: Where there's owner GM, not talking about just the Cowboys, everybody. 888 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 5: They're gonna try to make that decision right. And that 889 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 5: is what we've seen is Ezekiel Elliott. They tried to 890 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 5: make that decision right and it wasn't right. Not only 891 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 5: the players, the guys that were talking about it that 892 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 5: were on the show, but most of the players around 893 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 5: the league felt that sentiment he is. He was a 894 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 5: fragment of itself. He was still leading the league in 895 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 5: fumbles before then before he got paid. It after he 896 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 5: got paid, he was one of the highest fumbling guys there. 897 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 5: And then after he got paid. Like you said, the 898 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 5: mini fridge came in to him. It wasn't explosive and 899 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 5: on getting out of there, and you have horsepower. Now 900 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 5: you have the Pony Express when you bring that miniature 901 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 5: pony in there and you say, Mommy, I want a horse, 902 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 5: and then you say, oh, I think I'm about to 903 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 5: get a Cloudsdale coming through here. The Coca Cola horses 904 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 5: coming through there, and then all of a sudden you 905 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 5: pull up with the circus mini pony. 906 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 3: You're like, yo, what is this? And now you. 907 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 5: Think that this is going to transform. This is not Cinderella. 908 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 5: They should have my bad. I'm sorry of getting off 909 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 5: the rail. It wasn't a Cinderella moment. You should have 910 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 5: let it go. And then even when you had that bag, 911 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 5: you should have traded him or did something else and 912 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 5: realized where it was at because he was not there. 913 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 3: Get ready to get out of here. Thoughts on Cooper 914 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 3: Cup the Rams letting him go he'll be a free agent. 915 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 3: He's had family members who've been Cowboy part of the 916 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 3: Cowboy organizations. Players go ahead. I think. 917 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 5: I feel like my thoughts are going to be like 918 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 5: X when he sit there and say, hey, what are 919 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 5: we doing with bringing in all these cog pieces and 920 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 5: stuff like that. But also in the same regard, Cooper 921 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 5: Cup has proven that he can make the plays. He's 922 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 5: proven to be a good quality piece in the locker 923 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 5: room and being a VET. And you don't need somebody 924 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 5: to come in here and be that number one guy 925 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 5: when you have CD Lamb, but you also need to 926 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 5: have a guy that has that power. 927 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 3: And yes, does he have that power? But is he 928 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 3: still there? 929 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 5: So I'm a little I'm a little on the fence like, yeah, 930 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 5: I'm glad you got the connection here in the family 931 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 5: base and you have the former stardom. But I think 932 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 5: there's better quality receivers that you possibly can go out 933 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 5: there and reach for. 934 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 3: But we'll see when win healthy. 935 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup is one of the best wide receivers in 936 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 4: the league. Yes, when healthy, And that's the biggest question. 937 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 4: I mean, we were just talking about a guy in 938 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 4: Tank Lawrence, when what was the cap win to get 939 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 4: to move on. And it looks like the Rams have 940 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 4: come to the conclusion with a guy that obviously was 941 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago two thousand yard receiver to 942 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 4: move on from that pooking the coup is showing what 943 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 4: he has and now they bring in Davonte Adams. Look, 944 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say it straight up, the Cowboys have 945 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 4: to make a move to get a solidified number two 946 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 4: wide receiver in the building with CD. You have to 947 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 4: you have to get him some help, whether you get 948 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 4: it in the draft or whether you get it in 949 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 4: free agency. You have to make a move to open 950 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 4: this offense up. Because last year showed you man, you 951 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 4: were Hams. You were You were handcuffed by the fact 952 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 4: that teams could double team your star wide receiver. So 953 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 4: do you think Cooper is that guy? You didn't say that. 954 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 4: He danced around the question. Do you win healthy? Win 955 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 4: healthy win healthy? But what do you think you're getting 956 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 4: right now in Cooper Cup? 957 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. And that's the and that's the minds 958 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 3: are the same. Added added to this caveat if you 959 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 3: could give him basically your branding cook salary of ten 960 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 3: million dollars, but you paid him last year. 961 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 4: I think it could be a better branding cook. Yes, absolutely, 962 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 4: I think so for sure. 963 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 3: And that's how I see it. I see you if 964 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 3: you could get Cooper Cuff at ten eleven million dollars 965 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: a year, Oh, still him over there with Ceedee Lamb 966 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 3: and and a trusted type of player for Dak Prescott out. 967 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 4: There, because what do we what do we need Cooper 968 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 4: Cup to do? We need him. We need him to 969 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 4: be move the chains. Yes, we need to be a 970 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 4: possession receiver and we need him to be solid in 971 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 4: red zone and one on one coverage. He's what he'll get, 972 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 4: and I think he will. But the only thing is, 973 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 4: I don't want to see you overpay for him. I 974 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 4: don't want it to be a Tanglorean situation where you 975 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 4: go out here and give him all this bread and. 976 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 3: Then you're sitting here the same thing. You don't think, Well, no, 977 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be. It's gonna be. We 978 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 3: gotta get out of here. Try good stuff. Heck, good stuff. 979 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 3: Chris being everybody here Dallas Cowboy dot com, we appreciate 980 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 3: your new reschedule out. 981 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 982 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys football club,