1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Out of context. This might sound a little bit weird, 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: but Nazi Magic has done a lot for this show. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: It really has the Nerva. Is it the Nerva? Yeah, 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: it's a couple of non native German speakers. You guys 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: did a pretty defined job there, and we're canceled. Well, 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: listen to this episode in Remembrance of Us, a show 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: that was once on the air talking about Nazi Magic. No, 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: it's an interesting it's an interesting episode alexax Anne from 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: UFOs two Ghosts and Government cover Ups. History is riddled 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, everyone, 12 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: welcome back. My name is Matt and I'm Ben and 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: I just got back from a vacation. Is that what 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: they called those things where you're gone for a week? 15 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: It was essentially Yes, Oh man, it was crazy. It 16 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: was the best thing I've done in a long time, 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: besides the show, which you know, is the best thing 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: I've got going for me. I don't know about you. 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got nothing going on, ohkay, zero except 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: for this. Yeah, well and my beautiful life. Yes that's 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: another thing, sorry, ladies. Oh yeah, Diana is definitely the 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: business suit. Um, yeah, what did you do on your vacation? 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: I was on a ship and it was incredible. It's 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: the first time I've been in the water to the 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: point where i can see no land around me whatsoever, 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: on the top of a ship. It was incredible, just 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: open ocean. Huh. Yeah, it gives you. It gave me 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: lots of creative ideas just about the earth and that 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: old saying as above so below. That feeling that you 30 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: get when you see the horizon line, just water beneath 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: you and just air above you pretty awesome. As above 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: so below. It's funny that you say that, because that's 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of cultish, isn't it. It's a little 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: bit of cultish. And what were we talking about this week? 35 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Some group of people that are really well known. It 36 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: was a political movement. And I can't put my finger 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: on it because when you said some group of people 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: that were really well known, my first guest was kiss, 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: they are some of the most well known people in 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: the world. That's true. Is that weird? That is true? 41 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: But these guys had some kind of symbol. Oh yeah, 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: that's right, Nazis, Oh Nazis. That was way off. Well, 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: both groups in my defense, have a love of uniforms, 44 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: that's true. Sorry, no offense, kiss a little less face 45 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: paint in the Nazis. Yeah, arguably that's right, Ladies and gentlemen. 46 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: Matt and I are here today as always with our 47 00:02:53,160 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: super producer Noel Brown. Uh. Today's question, mat, is the 48 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: Nationalist Socialist Party or Nazis really try to practice magic? Yes, 49 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: they tried. They tried to practice magic, They really did. 50 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: They had a lot of interest in the occult. Okay, 51 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: all right, Uh, well that's our podcast, ladies, alight, and 52 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: that's it. So I hope you guys enjoyed it to 53 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: find us on Facebook. Oh no, we got more. Oh yeah, 54 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: we've got We've got a little more, right, I mean, 55 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: because this is something that's such a popular idea, right 56 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: because we hear about it all the time, and you know, 57 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: we can we can talk about some examples of that. 58 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: But it's important for us to remember that when we 59 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: say the Nazis really did try to practice magic or 60 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: have ac cult interest, we're talking about members of the 61 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Nazi Party, not necessarily everybody, not not boots on the 62 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: ground guys, perhaps a few of them. But we cannot 63 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: make a huge generalization like that they're key members. Yeah, 64 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah, who are interested in the occult. Yeah, 65 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: we can see this the fascination in culture, like new 66 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: culture about Nazis. If you look at video games Wolfenstein 67 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: series they called Duty series all the Yeah, the zombies, 68 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Nazi zombies all over the place. My buddy Charlie loves that. 69 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: Um oh. Even movies you mentioned Dead Snow and Dead Snow. 70 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: There's the one about the Mars or something, Iron Sky, 71 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: Iron Sky there they have a moon base. Uh yeah, 72 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: and uh that's that's weird because in that idea, in 73 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: that film, it talks about another prevalent theory about Nazis, 74 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: which is the discovery of some alternative form of energy, 75 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: which you and I have looked at a lot. We 76 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: uh we found that these are not they're not mutually exclusive. 77 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: The idea of the occult and magic and this form 78 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: of energy they seem to be connected. Yeah. And and 79 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: that's because of sorry man, that has to do with 80 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: this thing called the thul or society or the real 81 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: society as well. Yeah, there were this is this is 82 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: a weird thing that you and I discovered as well. 83 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Matt, when we do our show stuff. 84 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: They don't want you to know. There are certain groups 85 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: or individuals that will always have thousands of at times 86 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: contradictory theories surrounding them. You know, there are international bankers, 87 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: and news flash, a few of those theories are distressingly 88 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: indisturbingly true. Oh yes, there are groups that are amorphous 89 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: and aren't necessarily a Certain people like the New World 90 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: Order or the even the Illuminati, which are a lot 91 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: of different people are associated with that term. And then 92 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: you've got groups like the Nazis, right, yeah, the Nazis 93 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: our group that we continually returned to. We've done Nazis 94 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: and UFOs. We've looked at some questions about whether or 95 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: not Hitler actually died when he supposedly died, which is 96 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: still an interesting story, and yeah, we're gonna have to 97 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: look into that one, and then the ratlines and all 98 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: this other stuff. But one thing that we continually returned to, 99 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: as we're saying, the Nazis. And here's something interesting we 100 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: found while we were working on our series this week. Uh, 101 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: first we had our classic video remixed by Matt which 102 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: is did Nazis Practice Magic? And we talked about a 103 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff. And we found out while we're 104 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: doing this that occult societies and secret societies were crazy 105 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: common at the time, you know, the inter war period 106 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: between World War One world War Two in Germany and 107 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: the Rule or to Society, as we talked about, was 108 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: one of the big ones that started out as the 109 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: study group for Germanic antiquity. And this was an occult society. 110 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: And it was also something called a Wokish group and 111 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: that's with a V but pronounced the German way, right, 112 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: And you might be asking yourself what is wis It's 113 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: a movement in Germany that focused on folklore and you 114 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: can think of it kind of as a way of 115 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: romanticizing and idealizing the this image of the German people 116 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: that they had, uh yeah, pristine image almost um an 117 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: iconic image of the people. Yeah, that's bucolic, right. And 118 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: this is an important thing because in the modern age, 119 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: it's easy for us to think that Adolph Hitler just 120 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: decided to have crazy racial beliefs or or crazy nationalist 121 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: beliefs or whatever you want to call them. However, the 122 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is that these were fairly common, 123 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: and not just Germany but in Europe for most of 124 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: the time, and some of those ideas you know, have 125 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: a resurgence in Europe today. So this ethno nationalistic belief 126 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: says that there is an inherent quality in someone's lineage 127 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: that determines your behavioral status, or your personality or your abilities. 128 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: So in some ways this is similar to other belief 129 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: systems like those in East Asia. Here's looking at you, 130 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: North Korea, because I've read The Cleanest Race based on 131 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: some I I read way too much about North Korea. 132 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: So there is still the same this same belief in 133 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: what would ultimately be called ideas of racial purity. The 134 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: Cleanest Race is a book by a scholar on North 135 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: Korea that describes the ultimate aim of propaganda, or the 136 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: narrative created by the North Korean government, which depicts the 137 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: people of North Korea as a pure, innocent, vulnerable people 138 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: who are the cleanest and the best people in out 139 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: of the world, out of the world wow, who are 140 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,239 Speaker 1: somehow oppressed by the outside world and must be protected 141 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: from that world, and that the narrative of that propaganda 142 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: is surely changing. This was a fairly recently written book, 143 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: but it's surely changing as more North Korean citizens gain 144 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: access to outside information. So so let's yeah, sorry, that's awesome. 145 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm really glad you told me that, because I would 146 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: have no idea, and I think our listeners would, uh. 147 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: I think we all are happy that you told us 148 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: what that was. So anyway, back to the Toul Society 149 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: or the I'm just gonna say fool because that's what 150 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: I've said, so apologies to anybody else listening that wants 151 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: to correct me. Originally it was a cover name for 152 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: an offshoot of a different secret society that I'm going 153 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: to paraphrase as the German Order of the Holy Grail, 154 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: and the Thule Society became official in nineteen eighteen, and 155 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: you had to sign a document swearing to uphold racial purity, 156 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: all right, so you had to be so Arian, so 157 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: so very arian, so arian, and continue to be Arian 158 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: throughout your days. No roma kept marry into anyone who 159 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: is I don't know what, who is from Mongolia or God, 160 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: from the Jewish or anything like that. And again, this 161 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: was this was a fairly common idea. It wasn't something 162 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: that sounded crazy to the average person in Germany at 163 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: the time. The name Thul or too Lee, and I'll 164 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 1: say Thul as well, comes from a mystical land called Ultima. 165 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: According to these Nazi mystics, this was the capital of 166 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: an ancient place called Hyperborea, which they believed lay somewhere 167 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: in the north between Greenland and Iceland, and this was 168 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: the supposed true home of the original founders of civilization. 169 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: Again according to this ideology, the arians. And before we 170 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: go on that, I do want to take a moment 171 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: to thank a listener on YouTube who said that we 172 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: we were making some assumptions by starting out from place 173 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: where he said the occult or the areas, and this 174 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: law civilization idea is not real. It is possible because 175 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, as you and I found out when we're 176 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: doing our episodes on lost cities, people just lose entire 177 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: cities and civilizations. It's possible. I guess we have to 178 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: keep an open mind about it. It's just improbable, that's all. Well, 179 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: we know, yeah, that's a good way to say. We 180 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: know that law civilizations have occurred, do occur, will occur. 181 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: We may very well be living in a future lost civilization, right, 182 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: But the question is is their version of a civilization 183 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: actual law civilization. So anyway, like you said, they identified 184 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: a lot of things they connected quite a few things, 185 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: and this Hyperborea that they believed in, this Ultima thule, 186 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: ultimate toole, this was maybe known by some other names. Yeah, 187 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: you can look to Atlantis as the same kind of 188 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: place or even a possible synonym for how do you 189 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: say Hyperborea? Yeah, Hyperborea and Lamia, they are all kinds 190 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: of names for the same kind of mystical place of origin. 191 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: And this society pre dates what would later be come 192 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: known as the Nazi Party. Uh. But they had members 193 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: of the Nazi Party at their shin digs and Sware's right. Yeah, 194 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: some guests of the Tool Society included Nazi officials like 195 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Rudolf hess you're looking at Dietrich air Heart, but interestingly enough, 196 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: not Adolf Hitler. Okay. It should also be known that 197 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: the Tool Society officially disbanded in nineteen twenty, at least 198 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: officially officially. Yeah. One fun fact, then, is that the 199 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: designer of the original swastika that the Nazis used was 200 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: in fact a Tool number and his name was Friedrich Krone. Okay, 201 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: So that's pretty interesting because we do we know that 202 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: the swastika dates back predates the founding Nazi Party and 203 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: One interesting story that I read about why the swastika 204 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: was chosen is because in our video we talk about 205 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: how the Doula Society and and some of these other 206 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: groups were inspired by the guy who discovered Troy. A 207 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: German archaeologist to rediscovered Troy in eighteen seventy and he 208 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: allegedly found some swastikas there. It's a very old ancient symbol. 209 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: And it's also you know, Native Americans have used the 210 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: swas to get India has used it their people in 211 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: into and not the whole country. But to a big 212 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: question with this organization, did they do actual occult stuff? Yes? Again? Yes, oh, okay, 213 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: all right, there's no sort of there. There's again, We're done, 214 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: so all right. No. No, they would at least get 215 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: together to celebrate pagan holidays like Solstice and so on. 216 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: They'd also taught philosophies based on astrology and interpretations of 217 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Freemasonry of all things. Okay, all right, I see, and 218 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: maybe we can do a freema some re podcasts. One 219 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: day we probably had some Freemasons listening in. We need 220 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: to get somebody in this room, sit in this chair 221 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: and actually talk to us. Maybe we can garble their voice. 222 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't know who will. Yeah, let's get a guest. Guys, 223 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: let us know in our email who we should have 224 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: as a guest. Let us know on Twitter or Facebook. 225 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Here's the next thing. We're talking about organizations in the 226 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: Nazi party or around that time that participated in occult things. 227 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: One of my favorite these organizations met, which you mentioned earlier, 228 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,359 Speaker 1: is the real society, or should we say the alleged 229 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: real society? So what's that and why do we have 230 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: to say the alleged real society? We have to say 231 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: alleged because no one has officially proven that real society 232 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: actually existed. There are numerous reports by skeptics and believers 233 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: alike that there was some kind of secret society operating 234 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: in Germany that sought to discover some kind of energy 235 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: that was not known at the time, some new form 236 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: of energy or rediscovered form event. Yes, exactly. And you 237 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: can check out our Nazi I think we have it 238 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: published on our new site. Yeah, we do, on the 239 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: new YouTube. Check it out. It's about Nazi UFOs and 240 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: it's interesting. Yeah, and it's also on our website. Stuff 241 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: don't what you know dot com? If you're if you're 242 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: the kind of person who doesn't want to be on 243 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: YouTube since they made the g plus move, you know, 244 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: so we understand, yeah, one Gmail to rule them all 245 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: and in the darkness behind them, right yeah, And and 246 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: all of this is based on a novel, not all 247 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: of it, but a lot of it is based on 248 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: this novel Real the power of the Coming Race, And 249 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: that's the idea of that's why they think the name 250 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: of real Society was used. Okay, it's it's a book 251 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: from eighteen seventy one. It was a novel by Edward 252 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 1: Butler or Litton, and it was originally printed as The 253 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: Coming Race, and many believed it's an account from a 254 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: superior subterranean master race. Ben. Oh, and the energy form 255 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: that they're talking about is in fact called real, at 256 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: least according to this novel. Now here's where I will 257 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: be a little bit skeptical. So Edward bulwer lytton his 258 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: novel there is fiction. It's transfiction. He said it was fiction. 259 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: He said it was fiction. I'm repeating that. Uh. He also, 260 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: and this is just a neat little historical side note here, 261 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: he also, I believe is the winner for the worst 262 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: opening sentence of a novel in English. It wasn't this novel. 263 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: It's different and it's a it's a weird description. We'll 264 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: you'll have to check it out, or maybe we can 265 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: bring it to a link on our website. But yes, 266 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: so this name, according to the stories, inspired this society. 267 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: But at this point, there's no solid historical evidence for 268 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: the existence of such a society, although there is some 269 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: pretty compelling stuff about Nazi experimentation of other forms of energy. Right, 270 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: I would just like to say that to me, of 271 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: real society, if it did exist, would be kind of 272 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: like a fandom community, yes, for this novel. You know what, 273 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: that's a really good point. And how weird is that 274 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: If that truly did inspire some of these horrifying things 275 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: and horrifying practices, it's pretty messed up. That is strange. 276 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: Fiction does have such a power, does That's a really 277 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: good point. Men, Sorry, I didn't mean yeah, I'm sorry. 278 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: I started zoning out. You guys. Sometimes, uh, sometimes one 279 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: of us will make a point that seems phenomenally deep 280 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: to the other person and we'll just sort of tune 281 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: out and think about that one other thing. Ben really fast. 282 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: There's another popular book called The Morning of the Magicians, 283 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: and this is the one that made people think that 284 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: the real society was real, right yeah, This is from 285 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty and it suggested that a secret quote real 286 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: society existed in pre Nazi Berlin. However, again, there's no 287 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: absolutely no historical evidence that that society existed. You see 288 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: me getting excited across the table here, right, Yeah, it's 289 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: not just the coffee. I'm thrilled to mention one of 290 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: the biggest groups that does have historical evidence behind it, 291 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: and that is an an alb Yes, yes, it is 292 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: one of the most fun things to say. It is. 293 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: We have probably alienated some of our co workers because 294 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: Matt and I sit across from each other and there's 295 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: a wall that divides us. So we will will stand 296 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: up and talk over that wall or sometimes just a 297 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: things and not know if the other persons on headphones. True, 298 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: that's true. And when we this week, when we've been 299 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: hopping up and going, oh, Ben, did just see about 300 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: Santa Nab, everyone just gets a little uncomfortable, including ourselves, 301 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: right yeah, because we continue talking in the in our 302 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: horrible voices about that. But this is the real Nazi 303 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: Magic Department, and it all depends on a guy that 304 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: you probably remember from some of our earlier works on 305 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: this a fellow named Heinrich Himmler. Yeah, he was born 306 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: in nineteen hundred, on a fun year to be born in. 307 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: He developed the s S. That's important. He developed the 308 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: s S and he oversaw a lot of the work 309 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: of the ann An Arab. He also built extermination camps, 310 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: and he directed the course, unfortunately of the Holocaust. Right, 311 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: it's important, vital even for us to remember that despite 312 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: how some of this might sound to the very skeptical right, 313 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: to the people who think magic is silly or absurd, 314 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: that this was not just some silly, absurd man. He 315 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: was doing things that were on a large scale and horrific. 316 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: He was in an intensely serious dude that did some 317 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: horrible things. And he turned the SS into a racially 318 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: based secret society. And he even used pagan rituals with 319 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: this thing. Yeah. He sought to supplant Christianity as a 320 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: practice amongst s S officers, which we talked about a 321 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: little bit in one of our videos, by taking out 322 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: Christian holidays, you know, Easter, Christmas, all that stuff, which 323 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: is you know, I'm just gonna say it, which is 324 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: already based on pre existing pagan holidays. That's just true. 325 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: And uh he even replaced a lot of the symbols 326 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: using rooms in ancient rooms. Um, even Odin is m Yeah, 327 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: he wanted to get people back into worshiping Odin. Oha. 328 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: That's heavy. Yeah, and uh, this this all leads to 329 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: a very strange situation. Of course, if you're one of 330 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: the officers who has to do this and tell your kids, Hey, guys, 331 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: we're just doing Soulstice now. Yeah, sorry kids, no Christmas 332 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, it's a it's very It must have 333 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: been a very weird household conversation for a lot of 334 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: those people. So, Matt, why and when did he found 335 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: the n and ab he founded the NNP in nineteen five? 336 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: Why you ask, oh, why did he do that? He 337 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: did it to discover or really to create a new mythology, 338 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: a new history and a folklore of Germany. He he 339 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: really wanted to reflect the wolkesh attitudes of the nationalist society. 340 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: I see a politically correct version of history as they 341 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: saw it. Yeah, that was it would end up being horrifying. 342 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: So uh, Annell comes from a pretty obscure German word. Um, 343 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: it means something inherited from forefathers. And the official mission 344 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: of this of this big department is to unearth new 345 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: evidence of accomplishments and deeds of ancestors of the Germanic 346 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: people using here's the tricky part, science, Yeah, exact scientific method. 347 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: So in reality, the nat was in the business of 348 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: myth making, at least that's what we've found. Its prominent 349 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: researchers devoted themselves to changing the truth, distorting the truth, 350 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: and putting out these carefully tailored pieces of evidence that 351 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: would support the ideas of mine furre of Adolf Hitler, 352 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: and he believed that only the Arians, this fictional Nordic 353 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: race of the tall, flax and aired men and women 354 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: blonde uh from northern Europe, that they were possessed with 355 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: the genius required to create civilization. Only that only those 356 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: people and most modern Germans, he claimed, were descended from 357 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: these ancient Arians. Now this is interesting because you always 358 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: here in the United States, at least various members of 359 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: Congress saying your politicize in the issue or your political 360 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: five lamely astro, which are the only two Congressional voices 361 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: I can do. That's who they are. Let us know right, 362 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: and let us know right they're they're not in the 363 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: same party. But the point is that this is a 364 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: very dangerous thing for science in general when someone needs 365 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: a politically expedient answer, because it usually means something that 366 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: supports their political aims. So no one is really going 367 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: update off Hitler and saying, well, we think that civilization 368 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: was probably not started by these people that just decided 369 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: was started by right, But they can't do that and 370 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: expect to keep their job at the very least. And again, 371 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: as we have said, it is completely possible that entire 372 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: civilizations have been lost to history. We just don't have 373 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: proof that the beliefs that these people had were in 374 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: any way true. So science had failed forever two uncover 375 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: proof of this master race starting civilization in some Promethean 376 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: way um and being ultimately responsible for all human culture. 377 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: So the idea was to Heinrich Himler that we can 378 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: discover this stuff by I don't know, creating it, guiding it, 379 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: molding it a little bit. So that's why they, uh, 380 00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: the n and AMP researched historical archaeological evidence of this 381 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: race that up to now did not have much proof 382 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: of its existence. Right, Yeah, that's right. And Himler essentially 383 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: created the most well funded I like how you put 384 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: this most well funded folklore department in history billions. You know, 385 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: I love folklore, Matt, I love that stuff, and folklore 386 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: classes were some of my favorite classes in in the 387 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: history of my education. But folklore isn't you know, it's 388 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: not like engineering. It's a it's not a very well 389 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: moneyed pursuit. So this became a million Deutsche mark industry 390 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: for the Germany at the time. And we have some 391 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: list of things that they research just to give you 392 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: a just to give you a bit of a sense 393 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: of the depth and breadth of this. Yes, and we're 394 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: going to read these in English correct. Yeah, Yeah, I'm 395 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: not going to tackle that German I've already accidentally been 396 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: offensive enough. Well, let's just go down the list, then, 397 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: shall we. Sure we've first got Indo Germanic Aryan language 398 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: and cultural studies, and then we also have Germanic cultural 399 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: studies and landscape science. We've got Indo Germanic faith history, 400 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: Indogermanic historical jurisprudence. We've got Indo Germanic and German music, 401 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: and then Germanic German folklore, ethnic research and folklore, folk tales, 402 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: fairy tales and myths and even runs alphabets and symbols, 403 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: and that all goes under one branch of the end 404 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: and Air, and that branch was social science. But there 405 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: was also the natural science branch. And here's where we 406 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: find hard evidence of Nazi occult practices. Yeah, this is 407 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: where you get into descriptive and applied natural history. Yeah, 408 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: and and listen because these start out a little bit innocuous, 409 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: but you'll see what we're talking about soon. They also 410 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: did biology, astronomy, horse breeding, botany, plant genetics, spelology, cave explorations, 411 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: scientific history that's kind of vague. Here we go, applied geology, geochronology, 412 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: nuclear physics, folk medicine, osteology, survey of the so called 413 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: occult sciences what. Yeah, and they had so called in 414 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: there to make it seem a little bit more level 415 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: headed than it was. But they really did travel to 416 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: Finland and meet people they thought were witches, and they 417 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: really did enlist psychic experiments. And the last one that 418 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: we we would be remiss if we didn't mention was 419 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: military scientific research. This became the Charnel House. This is 420 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: a household horrors, where they started collecting skeletons of people 421 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: they had killed doing barometric pressure tests. And that was 422 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: maybe one of the most frightening things is that was 423 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: in small part of this giant institution where you know, 424 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: in in another part of Germany people are researching horse 425 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: breeding and man and it's gosh, this is just something 426 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up. We you mentioned Indiana Jones 427 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: in our flog and you know, indeed had to deal 428 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: with Nazis several times. Yeah, he kept running into him. Well, 429 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: it's interesting to note that these quote Nazi archaeologists and 430 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: quote were the basis for the for Indie running any 431 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: of these people, because there really were expeditions that the 432 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: Nazis took to discover all kinds of antiquities, um antiques 433 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: and law civilizations. Oh and now we're into our hears 434 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy mood. Oh all right, because there's 435 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that we actually don't know and 436 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: may never know about Zan and Ebb and about the 437 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: actions or findings of the Nazi archaeologists. We know that 438 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: they we we know that there were two you and 439 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: perhaps contradictory kind of purposes. We know that one they 440 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: were building mythology or propaganda and they were aware of 441 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: this and they were doing it purposefully. And then we know, 442 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: on the other hand, they really did believe in some 443 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: of these things, that really did believe there's a holy grail, 444 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: they could find a spear of destiny, stuff like that. 445 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: And if that's true, and we have to ask ourselves, 446 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: did they find anything? Then how would we know? Right? 447 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: And then we go into other stuff like do we 448 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 1: know what actual magic the Nazis practice because a lot 449 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: of times you do that kind of stuff in a 450 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: dark hole somewhere and nobody can see you, and you 451 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: don't really write down notes. Yeah, a cult means hidden. 452 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: And then there's the idea of the black Sun. What 453 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: is the relationship between this stuff, the science is magic, 454 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: this symbolism. What about the reports that some concentration camp 455 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: survivor has had of being forced to work underground near 456 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: V two rocket assemblies? You know, what about the reports 457 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: of the guys in operations epsilon where they were recorded 458 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: for a while at the farmhouse. Yeah, in that farmhouse 459 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: and they talked about some stuff which makes us wonder 460 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: is was it just like a handy code? A lot 461 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: of One of my favorite quotes from that and I'm 462 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: not gonna have the exact quote. Well, when one of 463 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: the guys remarked, wow, do you think they have microphones 464 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: in here? You're listening to us, And the other guy said, well, no, 465 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: they don't. They don't know all the Stazi techniques to 466 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: come on as Americans. And there for now, we're going 467 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: to have to cut it short. There's a lot of 468 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: stuff we didn't get to, but the rest maybe a 469 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: story for another day. Please check out our stuff about 470 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: Nazi magic if you haven't yet, and let us know 471 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: what else we should look at. Again. There's a great 472 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: book on this, a very controversial book called The Brotherhood 473 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: of the Bell, which goes into some of the idea 474 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: is about real and there really is a flooded underground 475 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: or a flooded mine, right, Matt, that no one's had 476 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: access to for a while, and no one knows what's 477 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: in there. So this does end on a little bit 478 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: of a mystery. And that's the best part about all 479 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: of this. It's a mystery, but it's food. It's so 480 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: much food for thought, and that's why I love these topics. 481 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: And I know every once in a while we get 482 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: comments on our YouTube page, Hey why are you covering Nazis. Uh, 483 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: the Nazis come on and again, like we said at 484 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: the top, they're covered a lot in this subject area. 485 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: But the that fascination with the unknown is always going 486 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: to be with this group. And I think that's why 487 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna go back and where this is not the 488 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: end for Nazis, for us Ben In about a year, 489 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be back in Nazi territory. One other thing, 490 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: just because we're talking about magic, I want to mention 491 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: and I don't usually plug other podcasts, but and I 492 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: know everybody knows about the WTF pod, but marketing and 493 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: had the amazing Jonathan on his show. Do you remember 494 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: the amazing Jonathan from TV? Uh? Fairly famous magician back 495 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: in the nineties eight late eighties nineties. I remember watching 496 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: on TV a lot. Anyway, it's a fascinating interview that's 497 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: super heavy and I would not expect it. I didn't 498 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: expect it. Anyway. You should check that out. Yes, And 499 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: while you're checking stuff out on the internet, we want 500 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: you guys to know you are welcome, but not obligated 501 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: to nominate or vote for us on the Streamy Awards. 502 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: We would really appreciate it. We are free show. Our sponsor, 503 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: Illumination Global Unlimited, gives us a pretty free raim with 504 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: this stuff, and we hope that we're covering things that 505 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: you would like to hear. Speaking of that real quick 506 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: before we get out, because the crew of tech Stuff 507 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: is gonna kill us too much over our time. UM. 508 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: I thought maybe we could just read some tweets. All right, Yeah, 509 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: I would like to thank Freaky Fire by the way, 510 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 1: at Freaky Fire our friend Heather for we're nominating us. 511 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: All right, Oh yeah, that's true. I just saw that 512 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: Heather just said just nominated some faiths for the stream. 513 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: He's named us along with Forward Thinking brain Stuff and 514 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: then Mom Stuff podcast. That's sminty stuff. Mom never told you, 515 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: so we're grateful. We really appreciate that. And uh, let's 516 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: see another one. Joel wrote to us and said, what 517 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: do you guys think is up with the hell mouth 518 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: hole in Yamal Siberia? Y A m A l um. 519 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: We're digging into this, but we wanted to let you 520 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: guys know too, so you don't have to wait for 521 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: us to tell you. We want to hear more about 522 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: what you think is that the old Giant hole or 523 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: the new sinkhole slash whatever hole that just appeared in Siberia. 524 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: I think it's the one that just appeared. Uh. And 525 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: then we had somebody say that we should sell T shirts. 526 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: Rachel said, you guys should sell T shirts with Here's 527 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy on them. So we retweeted and 528 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: asked if people would and we had some people say, uh, yeah, 529 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: take a try it out. We'll buy one. And then 530 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: we had uh, we had Victor say that we should 531 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: talk more about sleeper agents. What do you think about that? 532 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: Most definitely um. And then we've got something that we'll 533 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: go ahead and retweet right now, which is um. Our friend, 534 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: uh Bart and I hope I'm pronouncing your name correctly, 535 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: said they were found ten thousand year old rock paintings 536 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: depicting Aliens and UFOs found in Chittascara, India, and that's 537 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: reported by the Times of India. So we're gonna go 538 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: ahead and retweet that right now. And let's see. I 539 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: think that's enough now because we ended with a retweet, 540 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: right Uh. So we're gonna get out of here. I 541 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: think in our some of our next episodes we'll probably 542 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: do some list of mail. What do you think man? Oh, 543 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: most definitely it's time again. 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