WEBVTT - CES 2016 Impressions 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.840 Get into technology with tech stuff from how Stuff, What's 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:14.880 dot Com? He there and welcome to tex Stuff. I'm 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.560 Jonathan Stripland and this is going to sound like a 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.960 very odd recording because I'm actually recording this in my 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:25.599 hotel room at the Monte Carlo Casino and Resort in 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:30.320 Las Vegas, Nevada. We are at c E s S 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:36.720 today is January five. So we arrived in Las Vegas 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:41.480 yesterday at in the afternoon and then immediately checked into 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:46.040 our hotels and headed down to c S Unveiled. And 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.240 this is an event that's a press event. Ce S 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.680 itself is not just a press event. It's actually meant 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:57.800 for manufacturers to get a chance to meet with retailers 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.120 and other companies that are going to be moved being 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.560 their products. But the press is also there and has 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.640 a very big presence, So we are here to cover 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.640 it just like lots of other people are. And the 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.280 first things that we wanted to check out where the 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:18.440 stuff that was on display at CES Unveiled. This is 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:22.600 just a small collection of companies that have a few 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:27.440 things on display. It's not like the massive show floor 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:31.039 where you have two point two million square feet of 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.480 show floor space. This is just a teeny tiny fraction, 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.560 like the tip of the tip of an iceberg, but 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:40.760 it gives you a chance to see some stuff that 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:46.080 otherwise might fall away, that might disappear with the chaos 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.240 that is the showroom floor. So we went there and 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.559 shot a quick video for how stuff works now, so 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.480 if you have not seen that, you can go check 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.880 it out and see some ridiculous stuff. Like you can 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.800 see me in a chair that's pitching around left and right, 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.280 um as video is playing on a headset that I'm 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.440 I'm wearing. The whole idea was that you can turn 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.600 your couch into an immersive experience. It's almost like pimping 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.760 your couch by adding hydraulics. It's similar to that kind 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.240 of idea, and it was fun. I don't know that 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:22.160 I would ever do that for my home, largely because 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.960 I'm married and I have a feeling my wife would 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.840 object to getting thrown off the couch if I happened 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.200 to watch you know, Fast and Furious or something. But 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.320 it was a fun experience, and not only that, I 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.880 got to run into some of my peers that I 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:43.000 hope to grab a few of them and have them 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.880 show up on this recording so that we can talk 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.480 about c e s, what is interesting, what's got all 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:55.320 the buzz around it, what was sort of a you 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.760 know what fizzled that kind of thing. So I'm going 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.560 to try and grab some of my my years at 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.320 least one or two, at the very least two talk 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:07.960 about their thoughts on this year's show. Now, to be fair, Uh, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:13.960 the unveiled thing was so so relatively tiny, um. And 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.120 we had very limited amount of time there because we 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.760 actually we got we landed just as the event was 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.880 getting started, so we got there a little late. Um. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.280 And today, as I record this, it's pressed day. That 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.040 means it's just going to be press conferences all day long, 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.359 not not a lot of Look at the showroom floor 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.360 that that is still being put together. In fact, if 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.560 you could walk into the Las Vegas Convention Center as 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:43.560 I record this, you would see teams of folks putting 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:47.000 together booths. This will continue all the way up to 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.400 the moment the showroom floor opens on Wednesday morning. It's 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.680 the morning of the sixth, so tomorrow from when I'm 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:58.840 recording this, and it's pretty crazy, like you'll still see 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.240 folks putting up sign ns and banners sometimes because you know, 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.760 stuff just falls behind as you're trying to get everything 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:10.760 put in place before the the attendees arrive. But a 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.040 few press will be wandering around the show floors because 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.480 they get early access. They're going to check out some 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.760 interesting stuff that that the rest of us will have 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:23.080 to wait to see a little bit later um and 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.280 then we'll get a chance to check it out. So 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.680 our plan today is to attend the Toyota press conference 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.200 to record a video for Forward Thinking. That's the video 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.480 series I do about the optimistic view of the future, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.080 and it's sponsored by Toyota, So we're gonna go check 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.440 out what they have to say. I have a feeling 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.880 it's going to be about artificial intelligence and the massive 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.160 AI research centers that will be funding over the next 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:51.320 several years. And then that's pretty much it for today. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.039 That's the nice thing is that on press day we 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:54.479 don't have a whole lot that we're going to do 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.480 other than research the other announcements that have been made 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.360 so that we know what kind of stuff we want 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.880 to look at in The show floor opens on Wednesday, 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.440 and Wednesday will go to the Las Vegas Convention Center 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.080 try and cover a lot of the stuff that's there. Um, 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.760 it will be impossible. The center is it's huge and 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.840 like one point for one point four million square feet 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.160 of space. That's you know, more than half of all 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.000 the space exhibit space at C E S is at 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:25.960 that convention center. But we're gonna try and do at 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:27.960 least a quick run through and get a few cool 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.240 things on camera, shoot a few videos, get some ideas 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.960 for future episodes that kind of stuff, maybe even meet 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.799 with some folks to possibly go into a deeper dive 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.320 in the future for certain types of technology. That would 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.839 be a lot of fun. And then Thursday we will 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:48.080 be going to the Sands Expo Center, which is Tech 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:52.320 Center West in c. S Lingo. But that's generally where 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.560 you see startup companies, some of the more innovative stuff, 0:05:55.880 --> 0:06:01.400 the the small scrappy groups that are trying to redefine 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.320 what consumer technology is all about. That tends to be 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.120 where you find stuff like weird robotics, three D printers, 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.800 a lot of Internet of Things stuff will be over there, 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.400 although that's migrating more and more into the main show 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.039 floor as everyone is getting into the Internet of Things. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.919 So this episode is gonna send a little choppy, and 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.919 it's probably gonna have lots of different audio quality issues 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.080 because I'll be carrying this recorder around with me to 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:31.960 try and get more reactions as I go through, and 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.920 and talk to some of my peers if I get 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.599 a chance. Um. I know that Shannon Morse has said 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.720 that she will happily chat with me on here, so 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.559 I just have to track her down and be able 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.200 to talk to her about that sort of thing, and 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.160 maybe just get some more perspective on what c e 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.560 S means to other members of the press. Maybe I'll 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.320 even get a couple of the members of our team 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.240 to talk about what it's like. Because out of everyone 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.720 who's here from how stuff works, I'm the only one 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.560 who's done it before. Everyone else is a first timer. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.320 So I hope this ends up being a great episode. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.480 It's weird because I'm recording it in chunks, so I 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.680 have no clue what it's gonna sound like when it's 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:17.000 all over. But this is an adventure, and I'm taking 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:21.600 you guys with me while I go on it. Take this. 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:30.200 It's dangerous to go alone. Okay, guys, I'm back after 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.720 some c E S ing, which mostly involved going to 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.920 the Toyota press conference, and I captured two of my 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:45.760 technology peers and brought them back to my hotel room. Yeah, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:50.640 I said I had cookies. Uh, that was true. You're 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.960 going to get a little text tag that lets me 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.320 track you wherever you go. Now that's good. Then you 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.160 can find me again. Yeah, exactly, I don't have to 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.560 track you down. So so with me is As Actar 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:07.400 and Shannon Morris and we have spent another day kind 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.560 of covering ce S although this is a press day, 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.960 this is not the day when the show floor is open. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.320 But instead of talking about the stuff that's on display 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.560 right now, because you know, most of us have not 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.040 had an opportunity to really check anything out. Apart from 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.160 some stuff that was at c e S unveiled, there's 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.880 some other events that are going on. We're gonna get 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.200 some early looks at some technology. I thought it might 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.520 be fun to talk to you guys about past c 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:36.240 S experiences because we always get I'm sure you guys 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.280 have gotten the questions to like, what is it like 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.240 to actually go to c E S because everyone thinks 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.880 it's like the world's biggest toy store, which, depending upon 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:51.320 your thought about toys, it's possible, but I always liken 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.400 it to the world's largest radio shack, where well, there's 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.360 like ninety percent of the stuff is stuff you really, 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.600 I mean, it's okay, like it's it's cool, but it's 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.960 not mind blowing. And then there's maybe ten percent stuff 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.360 hid the way. It's really interesting. So first of all, Shannon, 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.160 how many cs is have you been to? I'm pretty 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.319 sure this is my fifth year I started going. Alright, 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.880 fifth year for you and I s e my ninth 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.360 or tenth one. I can't remember. You skipped one at 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:23.000 some point, didn't you? Oh but you you I just 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.679 worked with lots of different companies. Yeah, I thought there 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.920 was one year where you hadn't planned ongoing and then 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.839 you showed up. It was it was a joke and 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.840 made a joke off handedly, and I was told you 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.920 should go, and I was like, okay, And that's how 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:39.080 I wanted in California for three years. Sometimes you wake 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:40.960 up on the wrong flight and then you just go 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.120 with it. Uh So, yeah, we've all done cs for 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.600 a while. I've done This is my eighth year I 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.199 think for CS. So, um, my first year was when 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.800 I met I a S because I met you when 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:56.520 you were working at tech V and I got I 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.720 got pulled on to be on tech V because somehow 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.840 Randall Bennett, who was running tech the had known of me. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.079 What's crazy is we had a booth in North Hall 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:09.160 production but he somehow talked his way into getting it 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.560 didn't cost us anything, which is absurd to think about 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.200 this little podcasting section for free. And how did he 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.280 do it? I don't know. He just knew everybody. Yeah. See, 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:18.800 that's the thing is that here at c e S 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.840 there are a few outlets that have space on the 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.880 show floor or near the show floor. There are a 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.960 few more that don't have space on the show floor, 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.480 but they have production trucks that are parked adjacent to 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.920 the convention center. And then there are schmoos like myself 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:40.160 who have a production company back in Atlanta, Georgia, not 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.679 on site at the time. Uh and uh, it's it's 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.960 a very interesting mix. And I'm because of that, I 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.080 got to meet I S and Shannon. I met you 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.839 for the first time at a ce S a few 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.720 years ago. That's true, isn't it. Yeah, I was I 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:58.679 was stopping by the Revision three area and you were there, 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.960 and I had never met you, and you ran up 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:02.680 to me and gave me a hug, and I was like, well, 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:07.120 she she's on the list of favorite people now too. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.319 It was out here at CES. It's like c S 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:13.920 brings all the podcasters together. That's true. Yeah, it's interesting 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.440 because usually we're aware of each other's work. Often we're 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.080 fans of each other's work, but we haven't had the 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.280 opportunity to to meet, particularly for folks like me where 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.320 I'm I'm on a completely different coast although I as 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.120 you're in New York now, so it's still not convenient 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.240 to me, but at least you're on the same time 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.719 to be so geographically inconvenience. Yeah, you're very inconsiderate, is 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:40.320 what I'm getting at. So, but getting back to instead 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.760 of that's just being a hey, aren't we awesome podcast? 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.200 I want to ask you guys if you had any 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:50.600 particular ce S memories, things that it doesn't have to 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.560 define C E S for you, but something that you 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.880 associate with c S. It could be a great memory. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.920 It could be this is the weirdest thing that's ever 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.800 happened to me. It could just be, well, here here's 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.480 something interesting that would not have happened anywhere else, any 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.000 of those, Shannon, I'm gonna go with you first. First, Okay, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.960 So my first year was back in and it was 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:13.880 also one of the very first years that I was 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.520 going full time with HACK five h K five, which 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.200 is my main show, And for me, I was still 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.360 extremely nervous, very self conscious, but I was basically being 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.600 thrown into c e S like all hands on deck. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:28.680 They're like, hey, guess what you're going to be doing. 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.720 Forty seven episodes. That's fun, you know how? That is 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.559 forty seven episodes within the timeframe of like four days. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.679 Here is c S. So me and my co host 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.440 were pretty much dead by the end of the week. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.360 Both of us gone sick for like a week. C 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.719 CS plague is a real thing. It's a total real thing. 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.360 Bring lots of hand sanitizer. Yeah, I want to put 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.480 it in an atomizer and sprints yourself with it occasionally. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.680 But I think I'll always remember that first year because 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.360 it was it was like the year that I met 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.160 I S. And it was the year that I met 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.320 Tom Merritt and a bunch of other podcasters who I 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.560 looked up to for a very long time. So for me, 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.920 it was a great introduction to them and being able 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.240 to watch them, like face to face, how they interact 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.439 with the camera, and how they are like excellent public speakers. 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:22.520 So it helped me grow my own abilities on camera 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.080 and it helped me not be so self conscious whenever 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.280 I was in front of the camera. Um. So every 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.199 time I come back to see s now, it's always 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.120 great to see them again in person and be able 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.800 to interact with them now. And now they watch my 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.559 stuff too, so it feels almost like a family reunion 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.040 for me, Like we're all, like you said, we're all 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.520 fans of each other's work. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's the best. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.040 Like I met tom Merritt for the first time at 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:51.640 CEES and Molly Wood and uh I met Randall in 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.520 person for the first time at ces he had contacted 0:13:54.559 --> 0:14:00.280 me via the internets. Yeah, so, I mean, it's really 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.679 most of the folks in our space that I have 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:08.760 met personally. My first interaction was that was that CS. 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.360 What are you? Oh, there's a lot of them. I'm like, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.800 which one's happening you heard? Yes, Well, my listeners haven't 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.400 heard any of them. My first year. I'll have about 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.640 that one my first year I was coming in with 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.200 a company called Gadgetal. I was their new editor. I 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.400 just finished school and they gave me a job and 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.320 I said, okay, fine, I'll run this site, which is great. Uh, 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.000 And they brought us in and I was stuck in 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.680 the press room for like the week, and it was 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.920 driving me nuts because like, why are we even here 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.320 and probably doing his press releases because we're rewriting press 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.760 release 're not even getting photos sitting in here. We're 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.840 doing this all day. But they're like, don't worry. At 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.680 the end, We're going to the party. Always good every party. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.360 I'm like, okay, okay, fine, you know that. That's that 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.760 sounds like that that will work. I mean we've worked 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.520 until like midnights or nights, and we've stayed up by 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.160 the way. In the very end, we went to like 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.800 a Lenovo party. I'll be good. I want to be 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.840 able to wake up nice and my flight and be 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.400 all right. So I'm like, okay, I will only order 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.720 this specific beer. If they haven't, I won't get it, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.000 and if they don't, I won't worry about it. Because 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.040 everyone is like it's like all this pure pressure was 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.080 really weird. Like I'm for all adult would get a drink. Alright, cool, alright, fine, 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.040 I'm gonna have a Shemay Blue if they have it. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.880 Blue is this Belgian beer and it's really good, but 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.880 it's kind of expensive. So I'm thinking, there's no way 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.400 they're giving this out at this party because it's kind 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.640 of break or British. So I go to the restroom 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.200 and I come back and everyone at my table has 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.240 a little bottle of Shamy Blue and I'm like, oh no, 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.160 they have blue, and They're like this is great, it's right, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.040 and I'm like, yeah, that's why I picked it. To 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.280 the point where people at other tables saw that we 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.320 had it, and they started bringing out cases of this 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.920 stuff that they had and they're all wraps, drink wraps, 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.360 and I'm just like, okay, so this is happening. I 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.200 didn't even think of the concept of of free stuff. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.080 I'm like, I'm just working like crazy, and I'm like, wait, 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:53.600 do I have to pay for any of this, because 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.600 like that's like thirteen dollars a bottle, and like you're 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.800 just giving them away. I'm like, okay, I can do this. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:00.720 That was a very odd one, but that I was 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.280 only with that company for a year and I got 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.960 sold and then I quent and what to tech Where 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.360 I met you? And you I met somewhere out I 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:14.360 met you. It was at a bar and there. I 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.240 don't know how I remember that because I was dropped. 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.120 It was and he was there and we had quite 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.560 the conversation to be fun. Yeah, it was very fun. 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.520 Eric Sandean and I As and I do a show 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.920 called Podcast without Pretense. So I met Eric because he 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.720 was working with tech V two. I met him at 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.680 the same time I met i As and Uh, it's 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:38.960 it's funny because we've the three of us, I As, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.560 Eric and myself have have been part of some shenanigans 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:48.880 in Vegas. Not we didn't set out to break any rules. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.120 We had the best of intentions. Now we were we 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:57.320 were walking outside um in Vegas, which which you can 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.360 only do for so long before you start to give 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.800 up all hope. Uh, because everything in Vegas is further 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.400 away from you than you expected to make but then 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.520 you realize that everything is just feeling away. Yeah. So 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.040 we had come up with a brilliant idea of let's 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.960 cut down on some of this walking by using the monorail, 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:20.639 and the monorail runs through several major casinos along the strip, 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.040 and uh, the only problem we had was that we 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.240 were outside and the mono rail stations were all connected 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.600 to casinos, and we were following the mono rail tracks, 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.440 which are elevated. You know. It's not like we were 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.520 in danger of getting run down by a monorail, which 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.720 would have been tragically hilarious. But no, we were following 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.199 the tracks and came up to a casino that was 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.520 right up against the tracks, and then we can't remember 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.239 which one it was. That it was somewhere along the 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.560 southern side. It might have even been the mgm UM 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.120 because it may have may have been walking away from 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.240 the south side where the press stuff was and heading 0:17:56.240 --> 0:18:01.040 back north. But at any rate, we could see the 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:05.640 station attached to the to the casino, but we were 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.800 on a side of the casino that didn't have any 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:12.840 entrance for the general public. And these casinos are huge, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.240 and we were already tired, and so we're thinking, well, 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.680 we can walk around to the front of this building 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.560 go inside, but then we have to walk through the 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.480 maze of casino games to still find the way to 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.800 the monorail station, which we could see. We just couldn't 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.240 get to. And as we stood there trying to figure 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.600 out if we actually had the will to walk into 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.560 a casino and then wander around, we noticed that there 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:45.080 was a doorway into this casino that was for employees, 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.000 and an employee was coming out. So we asked the 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:54.680 employee a simple, innocent question. I cannot stress innocent enough. 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.520 We just asked, how do we get to the monorail 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.520 because we just needed to and she said, you have 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.200 to go through the casino. You could probably go through 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.800 this way, which was the employees on the entrance, and 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.400 we're like, okay, this was clearly an employee who thought 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.320 I would like to be responsible for four or five 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.280 young men going to jail. So we went in through 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:23.600 the employees on the entrance, and probably about ten steps in, 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.360 we walk right in front of the security guard station 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:34.359 in the backstage area of the casino. The security guard 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.879 looked at us with an air of resignation and just said, gentlemen, 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:41.800 where do you think you're going? And we're like, we're 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:43.959 just trying to get to the monorail. He's like, okay, 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:47.480 you just need to go that way and exit and 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.720 don't come back this way, and so we were really 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.520 lucky that either he was tired or this had happened 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.800 so many times before that really it wasn't a big deal. 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.920 But at the time we were all convinced that, yeah, 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.320 this is we're gonna be calling our respective companies for bail. 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:05.480 I'm pretty sure I had to like talk you guys 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.639 into it by saying, like, we're gonna go in. We're 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.560 gonna act like we belong. They're they're not going to 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.040 throw us out. All we gotta do is just walk straights. 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.040 Won't be a problem. Yeah, you're like you particularly Jonathan 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.359 was not this is a bad idea. Yeah, this is 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.080 not something we should do. And I'm like, hey, look, 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.280 I'm not being outside anymore because as we know, and 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:23.800 if you can't tell, I get cranky when I'm outside, 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.760 I'm too U I get cranky or too tired, or 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:31.000 if he's around other people, or or if if it's 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.320 a day to ends and day, there's a chance that 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.480 I might do a little bit edgy. So yeah, but 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:39.680 back then I was younger and more energy to be edgy. Yeah, 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.760 so so I as as the little Devil on our 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:49.399 collective shoulder, wrestled Jonathan the Angel on our collective shoulder 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.879 to the ground and closed his mouth with duct tape, 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.399 and surely enough we went in. Luckily, nothing awful happened. 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.199 We made it to the monorail and we were safe. 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:03.000 I mean, we the Shenanigans go. That's pretty tame. It's 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.640 pretty cool me backstage, though, it was pretty cool being backstage. 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.960 So it's so the opposite of everything you see, right, 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.600 it's like it's ever being opulent. It looks like a prison. Yeah, 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.879 it's like all beige walls and that security center. I 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.600 remember that it might be of like now watching Orange 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:18.800 in the New Blacky. This looks like something out of prison. 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:23.080 It didn't look like Oceans eleven even a little bit now. 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.880 It was not glamorous at all. So, yeah, it's funny 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.680 because most of the time, the closest to Shenanigans we 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.080 would get up to would be let's go ride the 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:38.199 roller coaster, Sahara after eating a burrito the size of 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.639 a baby. That's true. That was a baby size barrito. 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.680 That was their marketing speed. Remember that was on the posters. 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:46.920 Barrito as large as a baby. God, it was a 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.320 business as any wonder it went out of business was 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:53.320