Speaker 1: Oh right, and welcome into the Betting Pros Podcast. It's
Speaker 1: time to place your bets for the twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. I'm your host, Seth Wilcock, and I'm absolutely
Speaker 1: buzzing as we enter one of the best weeks on
Speaker 1: the entire sports calendar. And today I'm joined by quite
Speaker 1: the cast of characters, including my colleague who's had boots
Speaker 1: on the ground for this entire NFL Draft process, Derek
Speaker 1: Brown Ak deepro Well, deepro. The work has been done.
Speaker 1: Now it's time to cash in with your knowledge of
Speaker 1: the rookie class. How you feeling roughly eighty hours out
Speaker 1: of the action getting going in Green Bay.
Speaker 2: I'm so ready for the draft to be here, and
Speaker 2: then I have so much work before we get to Thursday,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, it's okay, we can move it
Speaker 2: back a week, But no, dude, this is I am
Speaker 2: ready for the picks to be here and for the
Speaker 2: first round to be here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Saw the water carrying by big sports media, all the BS,
Speaker 2: all the smoke out. Can we just I'm just ready
Speaker 2: for it all to be gone. I'm ready for the
Speaker 2: picks to happen and things to be live. Boys, the
Speaker 2: further we.
Speaker 1: Get in this process, man, the further you know vs
Speaker 1: you find out they're on the internet. Everyone's given their opinion.
Speaker 1: We've walked through pretty much the entire position groups for
Speaker 1: the skilled players over on the NFL Draft Show, over
Speaker 1: on the Fantasy pro side of things. So excited to
Speaker 1: break it down from a betting perspective today. We also
Speaker 1: got two very special guests in house today to share
Speaker 1: their NFL betting knowledge, starting with an analyst for four
Speaker 1: for four in the director of business development and betting
Speaker 1: for the Betsburg Group. He's Chai Town's Connor. Allen Connor,
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, man. How are the vibes out
Speaker 1: there in the Windy City as Draft week gets going here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, vibes are great. Ben Johnson's in town. You know,
Speaker 4: they address the offensive line. Everyone is just praying that
Speaker 4: Ashon Gent falls to the Bears. I don't know if
Speaker 4: it'll happen, but you know, they're they're praying. But I
Speaker 4: think things are looking up. You know, the Bears fans,
Speaker 4: Chicago Cubs are winning, like finally they have some winning
Speaker 4: teams for the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: Basically it's been a while. Love it.
Speaker 2: Connor It's always a weird vibe for you. I'm sure,
Speaker 2: like as you're you know, you're in Windy City, but
Speaker 2: you're sweating Denver, Bronco pick some bets.
Speaker 3: It always makes for a weird conundra for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's I would say at this point, I'm
Speaker 4: so removed from fandom with us just paying attention to
Speaker 4: every little nuance of everything with every team.
Speaker 3: It was it.
Speaker 4: I found it really tough to like root for a
Speaker 4: single team. So you know, I got a de Marius
Speaker 4: Thomas jersey for those on video you know behind me, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, rest in peace. But and I was a
Speaker 4: Broncos fan for a long time. Now at this point,
Speaker 4: I'm just just too much other stuff to sweat and
Speaker 4: think about.
Speaker 3: I just can't. I can't.
Speaker 2: That's that we're watching too much true local duty really Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also joining us today is the content manager for four
Speaker 1: for four bets and Bett Spurts, Golf, host of Move
Speaker 1: the Line NFL. Ryan, Noonan, Ryan, thanks for joining us
Speaker 1: as well and putting up some more Connor today.
Speaker 5: How are you you have more Connor time?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: I can deal with that in my life, you know,
Speaker 5: could be could be worse, you know, like you know,
Speaker 5: it was my was my work wife been married for
Speaker 5: a long time. But again you can be married to
Speaker 5: worst people. Uh yeah, he's a die He's a die
Speaker 5: easy Broncos fan, So I wouldn't give him too much,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know again at this point, like Connor said, at
Speaker 5: this point, you know our fandom that brought us to
Speaker 5: this existence, it still yeah, covers low it's low burn.
Speaker 5: Most part of what we're cheering for a week in
Speaker 5: the week out is uh whatever wherever the money is.
Speaker 5: So draft is definitely no different than that too, though
Speaker 5: you know phantom pop up a little bit. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: as a Patriots fan, hold out of that fandom still
Speaker 5: a little bit. And you know when we have a
Speaker 5: draft pick like we do at the top, those things
Speaker 5: matter a little bit more than maybe years past when
Speaker 5: we were picking a thirty two or you know, trading
Speaker 5: out of thirty two all the time.
Speaker 2: Noonon's gonna be running naked laps around his neighborhood when
Speaker 2: they take a guard at four over us four overall.
Speaker 5: So the strange is not that far out of memory.
Speaker 5: So we'll see, uh what happens again the dam.
Speaker 1: I feel you at the fandom guys, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: as a Steelers fan this year, I'm like, just don't
Speaker 1: draft Jalen mill Rowan. I'm cool, like, like, let's just
Speaker 1: keep it shock here, grab us at a defensive vand
Speaker 1: at the top, and I'm okay or Jackson Dart. However
Speaker 1: this thing plays out on today's program, it will look
Speaker 1: like this though. We're gonna cover each of these gentlemen's
Speaker 1: top five best NFL Draft bets for a total fifteen plays.
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Speaker 1: NFL Draft, breaking down each pick from a fantasy football perspective.
Speaker 1: You're gonna keep me busy over on the YouTube bend
Speaker 1: this weekend Debro with all those hot takes. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to that, man, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, it's gonna be fire man. The first round, I
Speaker 2: think the powers that be they gave me a small break.
Speaker 2: I think I got three picks off in the first round.
Speaker 2: So I'm on on air for twenty nine to the
Speaker 2: thirty two, but I get I get to go to
Speaker 2: the bathroom for a second. Oka like stuff a sandwich
Speaker 2: into my face for I'm back on air.
Speaker 1: You're gonna need like Scott Hansen it and just make
Speaker 1: sure no liquids after like twelve dme. I think Wednesday night.
Speaker 2: And you know I'm gonna say that I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: to depend route, you know, but it is in play,
Speaker 2: but it will be severely a plus money.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go ahead. Let's get started with everyone's
Speaker 1: number five best bet for the NFL Draft, Connor thrown
Speaker 1: over to you first. What do you got over here?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go with an exact pick here, a
Speaker 4: little bit of a long shot ninth overall pick to
Speaker 4: be Tyler Warren. You can find this is as eight
Speaker 4: to one. Now it's a little bit unique, I think.
Speaker 4: Right now, the opinion is that the Saints are for
Speaker 4: sure taking a quarterback. By all accounts, they don't love
Speaker 4: Shudar Sanders, and that's what it seems like is happening.
Speaker 4: They're not a Shuitar Sanders team, and so the market
Speaker 4: right there is already inefficient. We're looking at him to
Speaker 4: be the current favorite right now to be a Saints pick,
Speaker 4: So I think that leaves a lot of value in
Speaker 4: other places. Maybe it's Jackson Dart. We feel pretty good
Speaker 4: that they like Jackson Dart. Is that a ninth overall?
Speaker 4: You know, I think that there could it could be
Speaker 4: a ninth overall. But if it's not, and I think
Speaker 4: there's reasons that it might not be, Tyler Warren could
Speaker 4: be on the board. I think defensive line could be
Speaker 4: in play. The point of this pick is that Tyler
Speaker 4: Warren's a fantastic talent, probably gonna go in the top ten,
Speaker 4: and so eighth over or ninth overall, eight to one
Speaker 4: on a guy that you know, I think could be there.
Speaker 3: Like, I think this is great value.
Speaker 4: So I think that that's an interesting look and a
Speaker 4: little bit contrarian relative to the rest of the market right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've compared Tyler Warren to Tastom Hill and George
Speaker 1: Kittle if they had a baby, and so it would
Speaker 1: be a great place for Tyler Warren to land and
Speaker 1: Ryan sticking with Tyler Warren tight end out of Penn
Speaker 1: State here, fifth place in the Heisman voting this past year.
Speaker 1: Where do you like him to possibly shake out with
Speaker 1: your first bet?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the last in with my pick. So
Speaker 5: I was able to strategically place them in order that
Speaker 5: I thought would make for you know, a little production
Speaker 5: value here and put it right in where it makes
Speaker 5: a ton of sense. I like what color did there,
Speaker 5: but it would take the easier right The Connor went
Speaker 5: gave you a little bit of plus money, I think
Speaker 5: is a great value. I agree there are a lot
Speaker 5: of outs for Tyler Warren inside the top ten, even
Speaker 5: before we get to the Saints at nine. So right now,
Speaker 5: laying a little bit of juice minus one forty five
Speaker 5: Tyler Warren to go in the top ten, I think
Speaker 5: they're legit outs. We'll see what happens to the next
Speaker 5: forty eight hours. Maybe even at five when you look
Speaker 5: at that roster, that might be a little bit early,
Speaker 5: but I don't think it's dead. Then you get into
Speaker 5: you know, pretty much anyone other than the Raiders. I
Speaker 5: think the Jets at seven, I think even Carolina at eight,
Speaker 5: Saint at nine, and then the Bears at ten. I
Speaker 5: think are all legitimate outs for Tyler Warren inside the
Speaker 5: top ten, even though we're laying minus one forty five
Speaker 5: minus one fifty. I think on Fandel to go start,
Speaker 5: this is the draft season is different, right, This is
Speaker 5: information based, right. They don't have to go out and
Speaker 5: play the game. So once you actually start to get
Speaker 5: a sense of not that we know the answers to
Speaker 5: the test, we start to get you know, formatting all
Speaker 5: these different outs and the way the board can shake out,
Speaker 5: I'm a little bit more comfortable, and I think Connor agrees.
Speaker 5: We talk about this on move line. I'm a little
Speaker 5: to lay, you know, two hundred. I'm going to lay
Speaker 5: minus three hundred if I think it should be minus
Speaker 5: one thousand, right, So lan the minus one forty five
Speaker 5: in the spot where I feel like there are a
Speaker 5: lot outs, very comfortable with. So Tyler Warren top ten
Speaker 5: minus one forty five minus one fifty.
Speaker 1: Love it, okay, de bro your thoughts on Tyler Warren
Speaker 1: potentially coming off the board in the top ten overall
Speaker 1: picks and as well, what's your first bet of the day?
Speaker 3: Uh one?
Speaker 2: I love both these bets. I think there's multiple outs
Speaker 2: for both these bets. I mean, if you look at
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren, yeah, like seven and nine, ten, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: you got four teams in Sutton nestled inside the top
Speaker 2: ten that are perfect spots for Tyler Warren. And really
Speaker 2: the only thing that you need for Connor's bet to
Speaker 2: cash is that the word gets out that Chicago is
Speaker 2: dead read to take Tyler Warren. And I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that the New Orleans Saints trade back, but they could
Speaker 2: if they're not in the ninth slot. Say, because we
Speaker 2: know Mickey Loomis loves to trade up, he will not
Speaker 2: trade back. Go google it, people, It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: So if the Saints aren't gonna stick and pick at nine,
Speaker 2: if they're not even the team in the ninth spot,
Speaker 2: the only thing you need to hit for Connor's bet
Speaker 2: specifically is that a team says, screw that you're not
Speaker 2: getting Tyler Warren at ten, we're trading ahead of Chicago
Speaker 2: at ten, and he goes ninth overall. So I love
Speaker 2: both those bets, but I'm gonna go with something a
Speaker 2: little bit. I'm not gonna say it's popular chalk, but
Speaker 2: total running backs and round one over two and a
Speaker 2: half and right now you get this at DK at
Speaker 2: plus one seventy. I think that as we go through
Speaker 2: the week, this bed is gonna move to maybe not
Speaker 2: steamed up enough to where it's like even or maybe
Speaker 2: minus one ten, but I do think it's gonna move
Speaker 2: the more that we get news out this week. There's
Speaker 2: already been a lot of buzz that maybe it's not
Speaker 2: a Marion Hampton, maybe it's Trevion Henderson going to Denver
Speaker 2: at twenty, and if that happens, then you're looking at
Speaker 2: all we need is just that one running back, and
Speaker 2: there's multiple outs there. But like Travion Henderson specifically, let's
Speaker 2: just say that domino falls he goes to twenty at Denver.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of other teams that's also not like
Speaker 2: we're making assumptions that if he goes to twenty, maybe
Speaker 2: it's a fallout of maybe you get a Marion Hampton
Speaker 2: going to Dallas at twelve or up the board. So
Speaker 2: either way, I think there's multiple outs for this to hit. Really,
Speaker 2: the lynchpin of this pick is that Travion Henderson makes
Speaker 2: it into round one. I don't know any of the
Speaker 2: running backs that we're really talking about that have the buzz.
Speaker 2: But he's getting a lot of buzz this week and
Speaker 2: last week of going down only just to Denver, but
Speaker 2: going round one. So really that's the domino that we
Speaker 2: need to fall here. And then I think you're going
Speaker 2: to see a team make a move for Hampton. Whether
Speaker 2: we could talk about maybe it's Pittsburgh. I mean they
Speaker 2: got the history. I know everybody's like, oh, they won't
Speaker 2: do it again, but I mean there is a history
Speaker 2: of them paying first round capital for a running back.
Speaker 2: You could say the Chargers, and again I know they
Speaker 2: have Nausey, but he's only on a one year deal.
Speaker 2: So telling me that, you know, Roman and Harball want
Speaker 2: to run the everleven hell out of the ball, they
Speaker 2: want two big running backs to do that. Or we
Speaker 2: could see Hampton. Another team that's like still in the
Speaker 2: first round that could be connected to a running back,
Speaker 2: whether it's Henderson or Hampton or somebody else. Washington Commanders
Speaker 2: at twenty nine if they don't trade back, yeah there.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're a team that it could either go
Speaker 2: one of a few different I also was going to
Speaker 2: add Washington to go maybe safety pick, but that's gotten
Speaker 2: steamed up a little bit very quickly. I think Washington,
Speaker 2: you're looking at three big needs on that roster. It's
Speaker 2: running back, it's cornerback, and it's safety. So if they
Speaker 2: feel like they can address two of those three needs
Speaker 2: later in the draft, maybe they go running back round one.
Speaker 2: But I'm curious, Noon and Connor, how do y'all feel
Speaker 2: about the three running backs going a round one?
Speaker 5: Played it, played it last week, so.
Speaker 2: Love it, love it, love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also that the commander's bet too is ten to one
Speaker 4: right now. Commanders took a running back one. I think
Speaker 4: that's great value. I totally agree with the Henderson. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, Handicap there or if Hampton's there. I mean,
Speaker 4: it would surprise me a little bit if any of
Speaker 4: those three, anyone else besides those three snuck in. But like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, no one was projecting Ricky Piersall or Xavier
Speaker 4: Lagette as first rounders either last year in a class
Speaker 4: that they thought wide receiverer class that thought was deep.
Speaker 3: The running back class is really strong at.
Speaker 4: The top of the second uh and has a couple
Speaker 4: of guys and maybe they maybe they sneak in. Maybe
Speaker 4: the commanders prefer someone else so yeah, I think that
Speaker 4: that ten to one is a great little add a
Speaker 4: little bonus bet here, not an official bonus bet.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know to Deebro's bet.
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Speaker 1: in this team. First position draft in market? Where are
Speaker 1: you going here?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 6: So I am.
Speaker 2: Gonna go a little bit off the board here. I
Speaker 2: think this is one of the markets, like looking at
Speaker 2: first position drafted where I'm really hammering these markets right
Speaker 2: now because I think there's a few obvious ones here
Speaker 2: to where and I want to bring this one up
Speaker 2: early because I think it is a just standout bet
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills drafting a cornerback with their first
Speaker 2: pick in the NFL Draft. They're in a perfect spot
Speaker 2: where you're looking at the back end of the first
Speaker 2: round and where the cornerbacks probably go off the board
Speaker 2: at the back end of the first round top into
Speaker 2: the second round, especially with I mean, outside of Maxwell Harrison,
Speaker 2: a lot of these corner like Will Johnson, his testing
Speaker 2: wasn't great, so maybe he falls down the board and
Speaker 2: you're looking at the corners kind of get pushed a
Speaker 2: little bit here. But like I just you look at
Speaker 2: the Bills roster and I know people are gonna say, well,
Speaker 2: do they just brought Tridevius White back? You see, year
Speaker 2: after year after year, teams sign basically kind of safety
Speaker 2: plans or safety nets as far as players. A lot
Speaker 2: of teams will do this at the running back position,
Speaker 2: but they'll also do this at other positions. And I
Speaker 2: think Buffalo is basically doing this with cornerback right now,
Speaker 2: Like bringing Tradevius White back on basically approve a deal.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he makes it out of camp.
Speaker 2: So that doesn't mean anything for me outside of maybe
Speaker 2: we do get this the market to move because right
Speaker 2: now it's a plus two to seventy five on DK.
Speaker 2: Maybe we get it to move back into like the
Speaker 2: plus three hundred era of like, But whether or not,
Speaker 2: I still love this bet because you're staring at their
Speaker 2: roster right now. They shift off kyer Elam because basically
Speaker 2: they're like, Okay, we've tried this and tried it, it
Speaker 2: didn't work. They have Dane Jackson cam Lewis, are either
Speaker 2: one of those guys we're looking at, like they know
Speaker 2: what they have and those guys or what they don't have,
Speaker 2: and are they going to be walking into Week one
Speaker 2: going to war with one of those guys or maybe
Speaker 2: even tre devious White opposite Christian Benford, I don't see it, man,
Speaker 2: Like to me, the Buffalo Bills, this should be the
Speaker 2: the chalk Pick. This should be of like plus one
Speaker 2: hundred and only because it hasn't gotten talked about enough
Speaker 2: and we're giving other outs to like people are like, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe they go safety and maybe they go other directions
Speaker 2: with this, but like to me, it's like, I just
Speaker 2: I think this The odds on this are absolutely wrong.
Speaker 2: This should be closer to plus one hundred.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, great call. I would have probably had
Speaker 5: this on my list even if I would have been
Speaker 5: you to the show sheet here. I think it's a
Speaker 5: great I think it's mispriced. Should not be close to
Speaker 5: three to one. You know, I think you know, defensive
Speaker 5: lines probably in play as well, but I think there
Speaker 5: were a little bit offline in terms of where the
Speaker 5: market price is. Look, the Rams need a lot of
Speaker 5: CD or like secondary help as well. Right, Sadik's White
Speaker 5: was on that roster last year and he couldn't find
Speaker 5: his way in the field. That's how bad he played
Speaker 5: last year. This is not your slightly older uncle's Grenavius White.
Speaker 5: This is a very very good at this point, Dane Jackson,
Speaker 5: I would have ahead of him. They had cam Lewis
Speaker 5: last year. Cam Lewis Moore of a nickel inside the
Speaker 5: slock guy. So they need a perimeter corner, and I
Speaker 5: think it's a great spot for it. So I think
Speaker 5: it's a great call out almost three to one.
Speaker 1: Good look, Ryan, you're staying in this market and you're
Speaker 1: heading down to Dallas trying to get in the head
Speaker 1: of Jerry Jones. What do you think in the Cowboys do?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I pretty much you want to live mostly in this market.
Speaker 5: I think it's a great market to take advantage of
Speaker 5: because I think there's a lot of unknown there's a
Speaker 5: lot of like just assumptions in this market. But really, right,
Speaker 5: now one of the assumptions that I think is correct.
Speaker 5: We can getting in the semantics with the ted Hive,
Speaker 5: the Golden and all this stuff. I think Debro areligant
Speaker 5: kind of working on Connor. I think I got him
Speaker 5: a little bit more to our side, Deebro. We got
Speaker 5: him over here. But you look, basically, haven't seen I
Speaker 5: think a mock that's worth its weight in the last
Speaker 5: week or two that has Dallas doing anything other than
Speaker 5: taking a receiver. You can argue about which one is
Speaker 5: gonna be, but they're gonna take one right and right now.
Speaker 5: Minus one fifteen on DraftKings Caesars are fandual minus one
Speaker 5: twenty first position drafted for Dallas gonna be a wide receiver.
Speaker 5: They need something to kind of help alleviate all of
Speaker 5: the weight that falls on Ceedee Lamb's shoulders. And that
Speaker 5: depth chart is pretty poor. I feel like they should be,
Speaker 5: you know, maybe closer than maybe minus two hundred this point.
Speaker 5: So I love basically we were getting you know, fifty
Speaker 5: to fifty odds on them to take you know, wide receiver.
Speaker 5: We're just not seeing anything else mocked there. I don't
Speaker 5: think this is a running back loot. I don't think
Speaker 5: really the ones that they want to take are going
Speaker 5: to be worth it, are gonna be there at all.
Speaker 5: So I'm happy to lay the minus one fifteen for Dallas.
Speaker 1: Would you hedge it all? Maybe with a tight end
Speaker 1: as well. I haven't seen it mocked at all, but
Speaker 1: I felt like if Warren would fall here, he would
Speaker 1: be a great pass catching option. Or maybe that even
Speaker 1: they reach for Loveland. So would you hedge it all?
Speaker 1: Or you just laying you know, because you're gonna probably
Speaker 1: have to lay a unit or two down on this
Speaker 1: to see some profit. So are you just sticking with
Speaker 1: wide receiver? Do you see any value there at tight end,
Speaker 1: which at one point was around that ten to one range.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I already, uh you know, we already
Speaker 5: got warning going in the top ten could be a
Speaker 5: lovely spot, right or he's going nine to the Saints, right,
Speaker 5: we already have that money in the back. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm not a hedge spots.
Speaker 3: Okay, you just not.
Speaker 5: I mean I think the drafts a little different. I
Speaker 5: think it is a spot where you know, necessarily hedging,
Speaker 5: but you're looking to take advantage of plus money outs
Speaker 5: in play against what I think is just maybe some
Speaker 5: poor assumptions to you know, Deverro's point earlier, But yeah,
Speaker 5: I think it's I'm fine with play in the minds.
Speaker 2: Okay, if I was gonna get wild, I would go
Speaker 2: to the plus eight hundred of running back like a
Speaker 2: Hampton spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, go ahead, Connor. I know you also have
Speaker 1: thoughts on this wide receiver class kind of what we
Speaker 1: were just talking about. Is Matthew Golden your wide receiver one?
Speaker 1: And do you think he will be the wide receiver
Speaker 1: one off the board come Thursday night.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I want to be pretty clear here. I I don't
Speaker 4: think that matth Golden is like a better wide receiver
Speaker 4: necessarily than Ted McMillan. Like you know, it's not my
Speaker 4: my wide receiver one. I think that both are are
Speaker 4: very much fine and incredibly different. Now based on the
Speaker 4: way mock drafts are going, based on what sharp people
Speaker 4: have been saying, whether it's Daniel Jeremiah with other people,
Speaker 4: they basically said that this is closer to a coin flip.
Speaker 4: Right now, we're seeing Matthew Golden prices like plus one
Speaker 4: fifty plus one sixty to the first wide receiver drafted.
Speaker 4: Now based on the You know, what I've heard from
Speaker 4: Dallas is that they prefer Matthew Golden they you know,
Speaker 4: for one reason or another ceedee lamb. You know, they
Speaker 4: view it like Golden has just be able to stretch
Speaker 4: the field a little bit more open it up for Ceedee.
Speaker 3: Lamb, et cetera.
Speaker 4: So, could Ted McMillan go before twelve, absolutely, could he
Speaker 4: still be the pick at twelve?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 4: Yeah, But right now I lean towards Golden being the pick.
Speaker 4: And so if that's the case, like plus one sixties
Speaker 4: are pretty interesting to me. Now again, I think if
Speaker 4: you need an alpha wide receiver one, I think I
Speaker 4: would much rather take the dice roll on Ted McMillan
Speaker 4: than Matthew Golden. But they can't already have that in
Speaker 4: Ceedee lamb. So it seems like there's also some weird
Speaker 4: buzz about Jonathan Mingo that they traded a fourth round
Speaker 4: pick for for like being kind of like a big
Speaker 4: bodied guy for them.
Speaker 3: Now, who knows, that could be nothing.
Speaker 4: I mean, of course, yeah, personally I think that's the
Speaker 4: guy sucks. But you know whatever, it's like there, it's
Speaker 4: not our world, you know, it's their world, and that's
Speaker 4: it's it's Jerry's world out there in Dallas. So I
Speaker 4: think that it's gonna be Golden at twelve and right
Speaker 4: now it's plus one sixty for first wide receiver, even
Speaker 4: if they do pass on him.
Speaker 1: Okay, Deebro, what are your thoughts on Golden potentially going
Speaker 1: off the board here, and then please take us to
Speaker 1: your next wager as well, which includes a team to
Speaker 1: draft a wide receiver, one that Matthew Golden very familiar
Speaker 1: with down there in Houston.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, I love the Golden pick. The
Speaker 2: fact that we're getting plus money on this is fantastic.
Speaker 2: He's been in my mox, like every MOK that I've
Speaker 2: written now, Matthew Golden has been going to Dallas. I
Speaker 2: think he's a perfect schematic fit. And if you want
Speaker 2: to also just not so much the tea leaves of
Speaker 2: Just like, Okay, Dallas takes a wide receiver, go back
Speaker 2: and look at the archetype of wide receiver that they
Speaker 2: tried to put opposite Ceedee Lamb before with Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 2: Matthew Golden is much closer to that archetype of player
Speaker 2: than you're looking at Ted McMillan. So I think Golden
Speaker 2: is going to Dallas. I'm all with this bet. I
Speaker 2: don't think this should be plus money at this point,
Speaker 2: so absolutely with it and transition over to another team
Speaker 2: that I think could not shock people. But I think
Speaker 2: we're getting really good odds on a team that could
Speaker 2: go wide receiver if they don't go d line in
Speaker 2: the first round. I think everybody is mocking and I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that it's wrong because it could happen O
Speaker 2: Line to the Houston Texans in Round one. Guys, there's
Speaker 2: a world where we could be living in and I
Speaker 2: don't think it's insane. Where the Houston Texans feel pretty
Speaker 2: good about their offensive line. I'm not saying that they should.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, look at all the moves that they've
Speaker 2: made this offseason, bringing in Cam Robinson, trading away Tunsel.
Speaker 2: You still have Titus Howard, you still have Juice Scrugs.
Speaker 2: They've added at Ingram, They've added Trent Brown. They still
Speaker 2: have Blake Fisher, who they took as a second round
Speaker 2: pick in twenty two twenty four to u Scrugs and
Speaker 2: as a second round pick at twenty twenty three to
Speaker 2: play center. Like, I look at this team and while
Speaker 2: we're all saying, Okay, no, they need offensive line. Look
Speaker 2: at what all the moves they've made and they haven't
Speaker 2: made this offseason, Houston could feel good about their offensive line.
Speaker 2: And if that is the case, which I think is
Speaker 2: firmly in play, if they didn't sign Cam Robinson, I
Speaker 2: would be okay, fine, I'm going with the masses. I
Speaker 2: think they're gonna take O line in Round one. But
Speaker 2: bringing in Cam Robinson I think is very very telling
Speaker 2: along with all and I don't even talk about it.
Speaker 2: They they also signed lake at Tomlinson. They have multiple
Speaker 2: outs where basically Houston can say it might not be sexy,
Speaker 2: but they they've been out there in the streets talking
Speaker 2: about we want continuity and chemistry out of the O
Speaker 2: line outside of like big names. We think them playing
Speaker 2: together as a unit is more important. So if that's
Speaker 2: the case, they're not going O line in the first round.
Speaker 2: And so that's why I think them going wide receiver
Speaker 2: at either plus four hundred a defensive line a plus
Speaker 2: six hundred. Both of these are firmly in play. And
Speaker 2: I think the odds because all of the smoke of
Speaker 2: the steam and the offseason has pushed people to think
Speaker 2: that Houston will go offensive line in Round one. I
Speaker 2: think it's wrong, boys, and I think we're getting really
Speaker 2: good numbers on both of these positions, and again stacking
Speaker 2: up team needs one. We know wide receiver is a
Speaker 2: huge need for this team. Christian Kirk at this point
Speaker 2: of his career. Look great move by the front office
Speaker 2: to get him on this roster. Can we truly think
Speaker 2: he's going to be healthy at this point of his
Speaker 2: career to be healthy for seventeen games? Much ass even
Speaker 2: twelve games? I think it's suspect Tank del I don't
Speaker 2: even know if we see him on an NFL field
Speaker 2: even this calendar year, I would actually be betting that we.
Speaker 1: Do not right.
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, we got Justin Watson, John Metchi,
Speaker 2: Braxton Barrios. Anybody feeling great about any of those names?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, So looking at that, you could connect the easy
Speaker 2: tea leaves to Mecca Buca reuniting him. He'd be a
Speaker 2: good fit for Houston. Yeah, but if they don't go
Speaker 2: that route at wide receiver, I still think wide receiver
Speaker 2: is in play A plug four hundred and again, going
Speaker 2: back to d line here, I mean, dude, Sheldon Rankins
Speaker 2: Tim Settle. Both of these guys are on one year contracts.
Speaker 2: I think Demiko could also take take the car to
Speaker 2: be sprinting it up for a dtackle because again, lining
Speaker 2: all of this up where you put team needs and
Speaker 2: the draft spot in the mid twenties, that's a tackle
Speaker 2: spot in this draft, that's tackle or corner or O line,
Speaker 2: and everybody's attaching oh line to them. I'm just not
Speaker 2: with it. I'm not with it with the moves they
Speaker 2: made and the odds that were getting on. These two
Speaker 2: other positions are just too good for me to pass up.
Speaker 2: And I think Houston presses the button for one of these.
Speaker 2: So for me, this is kind of a spray the
Speaker 2: board situation. If you hit on either one of these,
Speaker 2: you're still very very happy, Derek.
Speaker 1: If Abuca is gone, is there a potential that they
Speaker 1: would maybe I don't want to call it a reach,
Speaker 1: but maybe go down the board and grab someone like
Speaker 1: a Jayden Higgins or an Aomannard you think like.
Speaker 3: Because those guys.
Speaker 1: I know Elick was right around that four one mark
Speaker 1: to go in the first round. I think I've seen
Speaker 1: Higgins round sixty to one to go in the first round.
Speaker 1: Would you be interested in a flyer at all there?
Speaker 1: If you think the Texans and maybe some of these
Speaker 1: other back end first round teams get aggressive at the
Speaker 1: wide receiver position.
Speaker 2: I think if that's the case, I would if it's
Speaker 2: still on the board, I would still take them to
Speaker 2: draft a wide receiver first. But I think you're looking
Speaker 2: at more of like that would probably be a Houston
Speaker 2: trade back scenario, and you're looking at a team like
Speaker 2: if if Bucah's gone, you're looking at a team that
Speaker 2: probably says, Okay, maybe we still go wide receiver. So look,
Speaker 2: the BET's still in play, but maybe we trade back
Speaker 2: out of the first round, because again we're looking at
Speaker 2: how the draft could sift out in the mid in
Speaker 2: the back end of the twenties. That's another good spot
Speaker 2: with all the smoke we're hearing about. Maybe Cleveland, maybe
Speaker 2: the Giants, maybe one of these teams comes up for
Speaker 2: a quarterback if the wide receiver. If Houston is dead
Speaker 2: red on taking a wide receiver and BUCA goes early,
Speaker 2: then Houston you're looking at maybe the wide receiver bet
Speaker 2: still cashes, but maybe it's them drafting a guy to
Speaker 2: pop into the second and not first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good call out out there, Ryan Sticking in this
Speaker 1: first position drafted by Team Market. What do you have
Speaker 1: for our friends out there in the great city of Indianapolis.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this is another spot where there's just
Speaker 5: a lot of consensus around everyone mocking a tight end
Speaker 5: to the Colts.
Speaker 1: And every time, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Can see it, right, there's a case to be made.
Speaker 5: There's a reason that's happening. Are we sitting here thinking
Speaker 5: right now that the reason the Colts have been kind
Speaker 5: of spinning their tires because they don't have like a
Speaker 5: viable tight end outside of Malali Cox is not It's
Speaker 5: not the problem, right. They love to run the football
Speaker 5: wherever they're gonna do a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Have some respect for Kylon Grants and please yeah.
Speaker 5: Whatever I mean should we you know Will big Will
Speaker 5: Mallory guy when he was in Miami, Like, you know,
Speaker 5: they've they've kind of sprayed the board and tried to
Speaker 5: take shots over the last time for years and it
Speaker 5: hasn't really worked. There's so much talk about people being
Speaker 5: in love with these tight ends, tight ends going higher, right,
Speaker 5: every time you get one of these like cryptic you know,
Speaker 5: big media accounts putting out like hey, everyone loves the
Speaker 5: tight ends. They're gonna go earlier than you think. We
Speaker 5: already made the case for Tyler Warren. It could be
Speaker 5: a case for Ay one team likes the medicals and
Speaker 5: spine with the Loveland medicals, and he goes early. He
Speaker 5: goes earlier. Couldn't get to a spot where one of
Speaker 5: the top two tight ends isn't even on the board
Speaker 5: for the Colts when they get here at fourteen, right,
Speaker 5: and we know they kind of have some thresholds athletically
Speaker 5: what they're looking for, and they also have a need
Speaker 5: in the interior their offensive line with Will Friar's moving
Speaker 5: on in free agency. So I like plus three twenty
Speaker 5: for the Colts first pick to be an offensive lineman.
Speaker 5: Gray's Abel in particular fits their athletic testing right. We've
Speaker 5: heard some discussion around, like Tyler Booker outer Alabama does
Speaker 5: not fit their profile for athletic testing in terms of
Speaker 5: where they want to have that rad score and that
Speaker 5: threshold Zabel really does. You could have some spots where
Speaker 5: maybe he can transition on the outside if you move
Speaker 5: on and make some shifts over the next couple of years.
Speaker 5: So I like the three twenty. I like the price
Speaker 5: there again, kind of just flying in the face of
Speaker 5: the assumption that they just are an absolute home run
Speaker 5: tight end team, And I think maybe they could pass
Speaker 5: on the tight end, and I think based off of
Speaker 5: some of the stuff they were hearing, both guys might
Speaker 5: be off the board by the time we get to
Speaker 5: that spot as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this call a lot man. Ryan Kelly
Speaker 1: also went with fries two Minnesota, so there's definitely a
Speaker 1: hole in the interior of that offensive line. Connor, and
Speaker 1: what are you feeling about this bet in particularly, will
Speaker 1: you be tailing your colleague here? And what is your
Speaker 1: third favorite bet here for the NFL Draft as well?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's an interesting look, especially the call
Speaker 4: out of like Warren potentially going seven and then Loveland
Speaker 4: going ten. People have mentioned that as a possibility multiple times.
Speaker 4: So yeah, again, like I mean, there's probably not gonna
Speaker 4: be another tight end draft in the first round. Mason
Speaker 4: Taylor's gotten some late first round buzz, but no shot
Speaker 4: he's going to like thirteen.
Speaker 1: He's like plus one twenty five now for first round.
Speaker 1: That feels that's tight for Mason Taylor.
Speaker 2: I don't see him going round one.
Speaker 4: I want to be a lot of those, A lot
Speaker 4: of those odds are like fake odds because they're one
Speaker 4: way market, so like they just bet into and then
Speaker 4: they just keep moving the odds one way and there's
Speaker 4: no buy back the other way because there's no no,
Speaker 4: you can't bet the no. I would gladly lay minus
Speaker 4: one fifty no on on Mason Taylor or whatever they want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven Jeremiah's top fifty board is doing a lot
Speaker 2: of carrying the water for that.
Speaker 4: Just so totally, yeah, absolutely, absolutely so, Yeah, agreed with
Speaker 4: noon in there. I think that's a good look a
Speaker 4: bet that you know, not gonna be for everyone here
Speaker 4: minus two ninety five as high as minus three twenty.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go under four and a half corners drafting
Speaker 4: round one, just going through it real quick. Travis Hunter
Speaker 4: technically counts as a corner Will Johnson. His draft stock
Speaker 4: is all over the place. He might be sliding a
Speaker 4: little bit jday Baron. Some teams view him as like
Speaker 4: basically a nickel only corner. Like, you know, there's rumors
Speaker 4: about him being dender in minam Mess a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago, Like he's probably gonna.
Speaker 3: Be bailable in the twenties.
Speaker 4: Is what someone said, Now he's got hype like the
Speaker 4: last couple of days, right, he might go earlier than that.
Speaker 4: But like the point is, the range on those two
Speaker 4: guys is really wide right now. I mean were talking
Speaker 4: like six to twenty three, twenty five, and so I
Speaker 4: think one of them might fall a decent amount. And
Speaker 4: then you're looking at both Maxwell, Harrison and Trey most
Speaker 4: have to get in to lose this bet. So you
Speaker 4: need like basically you're talking about like three plus corners
Speaker 4: in the last seven eight picks. And I know you
Speaker 4: mentioned the Bills have someone what have a need for sure?
Speaker 4: I think that the Rams could definitely go that way too,
Speaker 4: Like there are potentials.
Speaker 3: But like they all have to go that way.
Speaker 4: Like that's the thing is, Like it's not like, you know,
Speaker 4: there's definitely outs for that over to hit, but it
Speaker 4: would take it would take a lot.
Speaker 3: I think there's some.
Speaker 4: Offield self with Harrison too that like, yeah, ran fast,
Speaker 4: was he that good of a corner? TBD, there's some
Speaker 4: off field stuff that's probably taking them off some teams
Speaker 4: boards and so, and then a most I mean like
Speaker 4: he's like fifty to fifty I would say outside.
Speaker 3: Looking in maybe in the first round. Like sure, it's
Speaker 3: just a lot to get there.
Speaker 4: So I like this under four and a half, even
Speaker 4: at like crazy juice, I just think it should be
Speaker 4: like even higher, Like it should be probably like minus
Speaker 4: five hundred.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, that's a mimosa right there. Man, That
Speaker 1: is that is a heavy glass of juice. But Derekly
Speaker 1: I kind of like, don't hate the play. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: something we can parlay with something else too to get
Speaker 1: those odds down because like I think, if all things
Speaker 1: were perfect in this world, we'd have if Benjamin Morrison
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame was coming off a torney. Same with
Speaker 1: von Revel Junior coming at ECU. Like those are two
Speaker 1: that I think that the top cornerback prospects if health
Speaker 1: was given. But I think with their injuries and everything
Speaker 1: else Connor laid out there, it feels pretty safe here,
Speaker 1: uh to lay that minus two ninety five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing, Like what if Travis Hunter
Speaker 2: gets announced as a wide receiver and he doesn't count
Speaker 2: as a corner that's another out here, Like I mean,
Speaker 2: I think like it's possible, but Andrew Berry has been
Speaker 2: on Like if he goes to the Browns. He has
Speaker 2: been very much ten toes down that he's a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: So if that gets changed in something, we also have
Speaker 2: the out there. But I think, dude, for me, it's
Speaker 2: it's the Will Johnson, like him testing poorly and and
Speaker 2: him falling down boards. I think that's where you're looking at.
Speaker 2: Like if we knew Will Johnson was locked in, like
Speaker 2: Will Johnson was gonna go as high as maybe five
Speaker 2: or six or even you know, top, like if he
Speaker 2: goes top twelve, like eleventh to San Francisco, I think
Speaker 2: considering his poor testing, like now, he maybe slides in
Speaker 2: the mid teams, maybe the twenties. So if he slides,
Speaker 2: I think you're looking at the rest of the corner
Speaker 2: market might slide because if he's not off the board,
Speaker 2: a team is like, well, I mean maybe at Atlanta
Speaker 2: or in Arizona says well instead of like god, Will johnsone,
Speaker 2: there's Jday Baron, Like maybe it pushes the rest of
Speaker 2: the corners down. So I think you're looking at just
Speaker 2: how the corners are stacking up the corner market in general. Harrison,
Speaker 2: I agree with everything that's been said, Like I don't
Speaker 2: think he's a first round player. I think he ran
Speaker 2: fast and that's what got the buzz, But I don't
Speaker 2: think it's sticking in the markets, and I don't think
Speaker 2: he's gonna be a first round player revel coming off
Speaker 2: the ACL. I think there are some teams in the
Speaker 2: back end of the first that could go corner, But again,
Speaker 2: you need all of these teams like Connor brought up here. Look,
Speaker 2: I understand the juice, but I love this bet.
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Speaker 1: I'm throwing it back to Connor here. Pittsburgh Steelers, they're
Speaker 1: going to be on the board at pick number twenty one.
Speaker 1: Do they go quarterback or do they go a different
Speaker 1: wait here, Connor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tend to think that they don't go with
Speaker 4: quarterback here. You know, after seeing some of what the
Speaker 4: local b reporters were saying, I'm kind of combining like
Speaker 4: a need with what they were saying with just kind
Speaker 4: of my own, you know, opinion here and combining all that.
Speaker 4: I like them to go defensive line or edge plus
Speaker 4: two twenty five here. So it's not only that you
Speaker 4: know they need that, it's that there's gonna be a
Speaker 4: couple of them there. I mean, you're looking at guys
Speaker 4: like maybe Walter Nolan, maybe Derek Harmon, you know, like
Speaker 4: there's there's guys who will be there in that range
Speaker 4: for them potentially, and then maybe you know, Newton's got
Speaker 4: Kenneth Grant. I mean, Kenneth Grant could be in play there.
Speaker 5: I was going to reach through the camera.
Speaker 2: Dude, I was just gonna say, I was like, how
Speaker 2: did he just bring these guys up and not mention
Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant?
Speaker 3: What are we doing? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Of course, so Kenneth Grant, I mean he should be
Speaker 4: should have been first on the list. My my apology,
Speaker 4: Unon and the rest of Kenneth Grant five, you know,
Speaker 4: it's uh.
Speaker 3: Can't can't get away from that.
Speaker 4: That and him and Ted McMillan or two of Newton's
Speaker 4: you know O G's So you know, I'm sure both
Speaker 4: are in play at every single pick on the entire board.
Speaker 4: But now I think I think Kenneth Grand here is
Speaker 4: an interesting look plus two ten to the Steelers team.
Speaker 4: Like it's kind of like this like some of the
Speaker 4: other markets of like okay, well, QB right now is
Speaker 4: like one of the favorites or co favorites. Like if
Speaker 4: they're not going QB, I fully believe that they you know,
Speaker 4: maybe they're Jackson Dart team.
Speaker 3: I've heard Milrose steam.
Speaker 4: You know, we've heard very different things about the shir
Speaker 4: Sanders thing. We heard like immediately after like no shot,
Speaker 4: they pick him, and then it was like, oh, actually
Speaker 4: he's Mike Tomlin's favorite player ever, Like you know, that
Speaker 4: was like the quote that came out like right after.
Speaker 3: What do I believe? I have no idea.
Speaker 4: All I believe is that they're probably not going to
Speaker 4: repeat what they did with Kenny Pickett just sitting there
Speaker 4: and taking a quarterback at twenty one who maybe shouldn't
Speaker 4: warrant it, so I didn't. You know, again, maybe it's
Speaker 4: all smoke, maybe maybe they love a guy. But I
Speaker 4: just have a tough time thinking that, Like if you
Speaker 4: love a quarterback, you're not trading up for him in
Speaker 4: some sense or another, Like you're not trying to leap
Speaker 4: A couple of these teams get up there, especially again
Speaker 4: like like de Bro mentioned about Jackson Dart at nine,
Speaker 4: Like if you're a Jackson Dart team, if you're to
Speaker 4: the Steelers, I mean, twenty one to eight or seven
Speaker 4: is not that untenable. You know, a lot of these
Speaker 4: guys want to trade down, so I just have a
Speaker 4: tough time their stand Pat.
Speaker 3: I don't see him.
Speaker 4: Taking quarterback, which leaves value of the rest of the board.
Speaker 4: So I think d line makes a ton of sense
Speaker 4: there based on what the beats are saying and the
Speaker 4: options that'll be available.
Speaker 1: Listening to Mark Caboli and those boys out there, so
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Connor, And you know, we heard Annon
Speaker 1: Rodgers last week on PMSA still very much. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the exact saying is, like attached to nothing
Speaker 1: and still, but it feels like he is going to
Speaker 1: be the Steelers quarterback if he's going to play that
Speaker 1: that's kind of the feeling I got. He met up
Speaker 1: with DK metcalf take, takes a Chevy Malibu down from
Speaker 1: the Butler Airport, drives in to the facility there, has
Speaker 1: a great meeting with the Steelers on all accounts. Ryan,
Speaker 1: any thoughts on what the Steelers could do and also
Speaker 1: what do you think the Broncos are going to do
Speaker 1: right in that same range at pick number I believe twenty.
Speaker 5: Overall, I think the Steelers are live for a quarterback.
Speaker 5: But what we're doing is we're banging into a market
Speaker 5: that should be priced more efficiently. So I love Connor's
Speaker 5: look there. You know you read it's one of those
Speaker 5: spots where we typically get a little bit more insight.
Speaker 5: Those local beats that are in Pittsburgh historically pretty plugged in.
Speaker 5: I know there's been a front office change and definitely
Speaker 5: some stuff. It's a little bit different with common GM,
Speaker 5: but yeah, I think it should be priced more, as
Speaker 5: you know, close to a coin flip than where it
Speaker 5: is now. So I like the look as well. And
Speaker 5: I'm glad we got Kenneth Grant his his flower box.
Speaker 5: He's the best defensive prospect in this draft.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: Man is gonna consider being considered in the top ten
Speaker 5: because of what Kenneth Granted next to him for a
Speaker 5: couple of years. So ably pull him, pull him out,
Speaker 5: and we're gonna see Kendeth Grant shine. I'm telling you,
Speaker 5: big boy can get it done. So Devers taking a
Speaker 5: running back, guys, right, like they're taking a running back.
Speaker 5: It's plus one ten. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 5: who it's going to be, but they're taking one of them, right.
Speaker 5: It's not gonna be askal Gent. Well, actually there's some
Speaker 5: talk about them even trading up. Right, they might be
Speaker 5: the genty team because they trade up to get him,
Speaker 5: and you listen to Sean Payton talk, it's really been
Speaker 5: all off season. I think he kind of likes his
Speaker 5: wide receiver room. It's next on the board in terms
Speaker 5: of pricing, but I don't think he's going there early.
Speaker 5: They might go there at some point, but it doesn't
Speaker 5: sound like a guy to me that feels like I
Speaker 5: need to go ahead and dress this position immediately. They
Speaker 5: could maybe add into your defensive line. It's a sneaky
Speaker 5: good roster. It's not really even a need for them, right,
Speaker 5: So they want a running back. I think ty end
Speaker 5: was very much in play before they made the Evan
Speaker 5: Ingram move. This team needs a running back. They're taking
Speaker 5: one could be inside the top ten. They could take
Speaker 5: the third to twenty where they we could cash our
Speaker 5: three running back bet. Yeah, pick twenty, but they're taking
Speaker 5: one of these dudes and we're getting plus money. It's
Speaker 5: probably my favorite draft bet right now.
Speaker 2: Why is this plus money? Like, why in the hell
Speaker 2: is this plum? Like does anybody have any ideas on that?
Speaker 2: Like I was staring at this bed, like this is
Speaker 2: one of the ones that. Like, I was looking at
Speaker 2: tossing on the sheet here and I was like, why
Speaker 2: is this plus money? I legitimately don't know, Like we
Speaker 2: have so many other bets that've been steamed Denver, Like,
Speaker 2: point me to.
Speaker 6: A mock, any mock, any mock in the entire conglomerate,
Speaker 6: the aggregate that has Denver going with any other freaking
Speaker 6: position in the first round outside of running back.
Speaker 2: Okay, since that mock does not exist, Why the hell
Speaker 2: was this plus one ten? Why?
Speaker 3: I don't know?
Speaker 5: Some money I don't know.
Speaker 2: Saying this is the first bet that people should be making.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: My first mock draft did have them going tight end,
Speaker 1: but that was before Evan Ingram kind of came to town.
Speaker 1: I think ever since then, that was kind of the
Speaker 1: domino that's really felt like they are going with a
Speaker 1: running back here. So, whether that's Henderson, whether that's Omari
Speaker 1: and Hampton, Ryan is calling out Denver to select that
Speaker 1: first position being a running back plus one ten Debro
Speaker 1: handed it over to you with the Philadelphia Eagles. Is
Speaker 1: how he gonna once again just get the steal of
Speaker 1: the draft at the back end of.
Speaker 2: The first How he's gonna do Howie Things. And I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people are saying, man, it's so
Speaker 2: hard to pin down what the Eagles are gonna do.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of ways that can go.
Speaker 1: Lost a lot on that defensive line. Man, Yeah, I mean, dude.
Speaker 2: But the thing about it is they could easily address
Speaker 2: that in the second round and stuff like, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of ways that they can go here. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take the the plus odds and a position that I
Speaker 2: think is just glaring for need. I think the Eagles
Speaker 2: go with their first player drafted at cornerback and it's
Speaker 2: plus four twenty five. And if you look at how
Speaker 2: this roster stacks up, I mean, losing Darius Slay was huge.
Speaker 2: Opposite Quinnon Mitchell and Cooper dejen these are the names
Speaker 2: that the Eagles are staring down. Maybe starting in Week one,
Speaker 2: Perry Nickerson probably not gonna happen, Adri Jackson, Keeley Ringo.
Speaker 3: Really we think that's.
Speaker 2: Where the Super Bowl champions are gonna have starting opposite
Speaker 2: these two other studs at corner. So I people a
Speaker 2: lot will say, yeah, but I mean the Eagles just
Speaker 2: double tap corner last year. Okay, Yeah, but it doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that it's still not a need, and I think
Speaker 2: you're looking at it like again, looking at just obvious
Speaker 2: team needs and fits and draft positions and where they're
Speaker 2: at at sending at the back end of the first round. Again,
Speaker 2: this is a team that could still trade back if
Speaker 2: one of those teams does come up for a quarterback
Speaker 2: and how he does, how he thinks, and he cruised
Speaker 2: more picks, and then he goes to the top end
Speaker 2: of the second round and he takes one of these guys.
Speaker 2: Maybe we get a precipitous fall for one of these
Speaker 2: cornerbacks that should have gone in the first round. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that Will Johnson falls out of the first round,
Speaker 2: but considering his testing, wouldn't he must be just like
Speaker 2: massively shocked at that happen, not necessarily considering everything. If
Speaker 2: teams say, okay, no, we're going to go other directions here,
Speaker 2: so again we're getting two bets to hit. Maybe we
Speaker 2: get the Eagles take on a corner maybe it's not
Speaker 2: even in the first round, and we get Connor's bet
Speaker 2: the under own cornerbacks in the first round. So parlaym
Speaker 2: together however you want to play this, But I think
Speaker 2: the Eagles are going to address cornerback, and I think
Speaker 2: it's with their first pick.
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Speaker 1: back to you, Connor, What do you think in the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers do with their first pick? Is goonti
Speaker 1: gunna once again find diamond in the rough?
Speaker 4: Yeah, a bit of a contrarian take here, but I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go with the Packers select the wide receiver first.
Speaker 3: I know that has not been their move generally.
Speaker 4: I know that they've been against it, but they've also
Speaker 4: pushed back on that publicly a little bit. They've been like, well,
Speaker 4: it's not like we're trying to say no wider series first,
Speaker 4: it's just Nuns fit what we wanted to do. And
Speaker 4: now they have a guy who again maybe won't be
Speaker 4: on the board. But I think that there's two options
Speaker 4: for am here. I think that like Buka would be
Speaker 4: great for them they've talked about to fit there, but
Speaker 4: Ted McMillan, if he is there, that is a run
Speaker 4: to the podium pick and fit with this package. I
Speaker 4: think they could trade up. I think that if McMillan
Speaker 4: falls past twelve, I think that they could trade up
Speaker 4: for him because I can just I can't imagine a
Speaker 4: better fit for McMillan with Jordan Love just like aggressively
Speaker 4: pushing the ball down field with fitting in the tight
Speaker 4: windows like it would just be such.
Speaker 3: A perfect fit.
Speaker 4: And then the Packers need like an alpha wide receiver
Speaker 4: one so bad. They have a bunch of other guys
Speaker 4: that can play like great roles like Jayden Reid's fantastic
Speaker 4: out of the slot. Christian Watson would be a great
Speaker 4: burner like they have. You know, d'atavian wicks like we
Speaker 4: want him to be awesome and his metrics look good,
Speaker 4: but he just can't catch the Dann ball and can't
Speaker 4: like it's not it's just not clicking with him in love.
Speaker 4: So like you bring in a guy like Ted and
Speaker 4: it would be awesome. Some local packers Beats have talked
Speaker 4: about him being like the absolute number one on like
Speaker 4: their board from everything that they know. So I think
Speaker 4: that if he's there, or if they trade up for him,
Speaker 4: as in play talking about seven to one, so like
Speaker 4: it's something that we know that they need, we know
Speaker 4: that there could be like multiple guys there. Again, I
Speaker 4: don't think Ted Fuley falls at twenty three, but like
Speaker 4: trade up again, it's the whole reason we have, Like
Speaker 4: what ten of our fifteen bets are like first position
Speaker 4: drafted that we've talked about today, It's like if they
Speaker 4: trade back, if they trade up, if you directionally know
Speaker 4: which way they want, lean into a little bit of volatility,
Speaker 4: I think that we can get some value there.
Speaker 2: I love that call at Connor And then the other
Speaker 2: thing that I'll tie to this because I think there's
Speaker 2: two other glaring physicians that the packers could go with
Speaker 2: we might be kind of like sideways getting the answer
Speaker 2: on one of these while not getting it. I know
Speaker 2: everybody's talking about if everybody saw the news that dropped,
Speaker 2: and depending on when this episode drops, like this could
Speaker 2: be old news. But like Jordan Love out there in
Speaker 2: the streets caping up for keeping JayR Alexander. So maybe Corner,
Speaker 2: which has been like the heavy like okay, the Packers
Speaker 2: are going to go edge or they're going to go corner.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe we're quietly hearing that kind of get
Speaker 2: pushed down the priorities if he does stay. So if
Speaker 2: that's the case, this wide receiver bet.
Speaker 1: Is priced seven to one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I was thinking maybe earlier in the process, when
Speaker 1: people were still thinking maybe Luther burn would be a
Speaker 1: first round pick, I was thinking maybe aomanor could sneak
Speaker 1: into the first round. Doesn't seem like that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So I still think though the Packers need a receiver,
Speaker 1: boys like Romeo Dobbs, he has a little bit of
Speaker 1: character concerns. It seems like after last year's suspension, we're
Speaker 1: not even to see Christian Watson for probably all of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five as well, So definitely a position of
Speaker 1: need there, Ryan, take us down to Miami. We haven't
Speaker 1: heard a lot about Miami this entire draft process. They've
Speaker 1: kind of been like that redheaded step child that no
Speaker 1: one really wants to talk about. After kind of a
Speaker 1: poor twenty twenty four what happens here in this draft
Speaker 1: in Green Bay on Thursday night?
Speaker 5: So I make this joke out of time on move
Speaker 5: line and see him kind of a bit. It's a
Speaker 5: little bit of hyperbole, but actually is true. This time,
Speaker 5: last time the Dolphins won a playoff game, Connor wasn't
Speaker 5: even in great school yet. It's been that long.
Speaker 2: Since my year.
Speaker 3: What's the year of the playoff?
Speaker 5: Twenty four years?
Speaker 1: Okay, I was alive.
Speaker 3: I was live. I just want.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, look, so it's a team that has a
Speaker 5: ton of needs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the street's not in in this.
Speaker 5: Year, right, this is not in in this year. There's
Speaker 5: a lot of ways that they can go off intive
Speaker 5: line is a problem. They seem to love head rushers,
Speaker 5: but you know, Jaylen Phillips, Chop Robinson. They still love
Speaker 5: Bradley Chubb on the roster. They have some bodies there.
Speaker 5: What are they doing in the secondary? They're gonna trade
Speaker 5: Jalen Ramsey. Yeah again, not Jayleen Ramsey again, you're study
Speaker 5: old uncles Jalen Ramsey again and make the same joke again, Like,
Speaker 5: you know, he's still he's still a starter. We'll get it,
Speaker 5: Storm Duck. It's the real person to take real NFL snaps.
Speaker 5: He's gonna plays for them, he has to. But like,
Speaker 5: should he be your corner one? What's behind him? There's
Speaker 5: really nothing behind him camp Smith they took in the
Speaker 5: second round a couple of years ago. Miami could take
Speaker 5: the corner plus two ten On FanDuel as their first pick.
Speaker 5: This could be the wild Johnson's spot where he stops,
Speaker 5: especially a great fit for Baron as well. Right because
Speaker 5: some teams Baron specific as Connor mentioned, he used to
Speaker 5: play safety. He could become more of a nickel slot guy.
Speaker 5: They could very much use him there. Their safety room
Speaker 5: kind of sucks too. He could almost be a perfect
Speaker 5: fit for them where they could kind of use him
Speaker 5: in a hybrid role. So like, I don't feel like
Speaker 5: they're you know, based on the player a single out
Speaker 5: where they can only be a johnted team and Baron's
Speaker 5: off the board of Johnson goes out Adam, and they
Speaker 5: have two outs. They need it out a corner. We're
Speaker 5: getting two to one odds on an Unfand okay.
Speaker 1: D Bro your thoughts here on Ryan's pick for Miami,
Speaker 1: and then please round us out with your final selection
Speaker 1: of the night as well.
Speaker 3: I love it, man.
Speaker 2: I think that's it's a really really sharp bet because
Speaker 2: I mean you're looking at the two glaring needs for
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. I mean it's o Lie in his corner
Speaker 2: and the fact that I think that both of these
Speaker 2: should be really really close as far as odds and
Speaker 2: we're getting some separation there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I love that, Love that all day, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And lookt Often's line is still a need real quick. Sorry,
Speaker 5: like but they they.
Speaker 2: Know, no, you're good, You're good. But they can address
Speaker 2: that later too, depending on what they think of Daniels.
Speaker 5: And they drafted Patrick Paul last year in the second
Speaker 5: round knowing that they had Armstead's retirement coming right, So
Speaker 5: the Armsted news wasn't news to Miami. They still have
Speaker 5: a need there, but it wasn't catching them off guard.
Speaker 5: Now they have this giant hole, so I do think
Speaker 5: again it's a need for them, but not more than
Speaker 5: a corner to me where I'm sitting here, and we'll
Speaker 5: getting to to.
Speaker 2: One big agree, Absolutely agree with that noon In. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go take the necessarily the how we approach, But
Speaker 2: I think that the Los Angeles Rams could address a
Speaker 2: need right now in the draft considering where they sit.
Speaker 2: That's not necessarily a need when you look at the
Speaker 2: depth chart through the first pass, but for a team
Speaker 2: that has had issues keeping their offensive line, and this
Speaker 2: was this is true last year, It's been true for
Speaker 2: multiple years in previous seasons where the Los Angeles Rams
Speaker 2: have had issues keeping their offensive line healthy year after
Speaker 2: year after year. I mean we just talk about last
Speaker 2: year multiple injuries. I mean, this is exactly why, like
Speaker 2: bo Limmer got a chance to start and play while
Speaker 2: he's going to be projected as the starting center this year,
Speaker 2: but like we can go not too far in the
Speaker 2: past where it's like the tackles have been just decimated.
Speaker 2: Having Stein's not getting any younger. He's a free agent. Yes,
Speaker 2: they brought back Alaric Jackson, but considering where they sit
Speaker 2: in the draft, where this roster sits, I think you're
Speaker 2: looking at a roster that like probably their two biggest
Speaker 2: needs looking at our corner and their offensive line quietly,
Speaker 2: because you can look at the offensive line and say, okay,
Speaker 2: but it looks good, but the depth is a problem.
Speaker 2: And considering what we've seen the Rams go through the
Speaker 2: last few years, and they know if they're going to
Speaker 2: go anywhere this year, they got to keep Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: upright and healthy. And the way you do that is
Speaker 2: by increasing your depth and protecting yourself, getting one year
Speaker 2: ahead of having Stein probably being gone, and then next
Speaker 2: year you're walking into saying, holy crap, we really need
Speaker 2: to wrapped on offensive tackle. Well, considering you're sitting at
Speaker 2: twenty six, you could do that this year, and in
Speaker 2: a multitude of ways. I mean like right where they're at,
Speaker 2: they could take Josh Simmons. Maybe they take a guy
Speaker 2: in the set that has a second round grade and
Speaker 2: they get the versatility of somebody like Donovan Jackson. Josh
Speaker 2: Connery is also in that. But so you line this
Speaker 2: up for multiple spots, having Stain not getting any younger,
Speaker 2: them having issues with tons of injuries on the O line,
Speaker 2: knowing that they have to protect their veteran quarterback, as
Speaker 2: well as getting one year ahead of it. I just
Speaker 2: think this is this is a great fit. And if
Speaker 2: I'm getting plus odds like plus three hundred on DK
Speaker 2: for the Rams to take an offensive lineman round one,
Speaker 2: yeah dude, I'm taking that all day. Well.
Speaker 1: With how much they hit on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball last year up front, in the trenches, hitting
Speaker 1: on Fisk in the second round and then in the
Speaker 1: first round as well, like they're stacked there, they should
Speaker 1: be good. And I do agree offensive line definitely a
Speaker 1: need and a concern for the Rams. Ryan and Connor,
Speaker 1: thank you guys both so much for joining us. Can
Speaker 1: you please let the Fantasy Pros family know how they
Speaker 1: can best find and support your guys's work throughout the
Speaker 1: rest of the pre draft process and also the post
Speaker 1: draft process.
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Speaker 3: An eye out for Connor.
Speaker 4: We got a lot more official bets coming that would
Speaker 4: be the big thing. So you know, we talked about
Speaker 4: a bunch of different bets today, but you know, as
Speaker 4: we started to come more certain on different things, you know, again,
Speaker 4: not afraid to lay some juice there because you know,
Speaker 4: something that should be minus three hundred but is actually
Speaker 4: just a done deal is technically minus affinity. So you know,
Speaker 4: whatever you can get down on it is, just get
Speaker 4: down on.
Speaker 1: It, all right, perfect, Well, that's going to do it
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