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Speaker 2: Darius Rutger Songs a summer tour. Visit Darius Rutger dot com.

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Speaker 2: Follow him on social media. Darius Rutcker, I know you're

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Speaker 2: in London. I'm sure that the news has already gotten

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Speaker 2: over there that we did not get nominated nominated for

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Speaker 2: a sports semi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I woke up to that, you know, all over the

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Speaker 4: BBC this morning.

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Speaker 3: Uh oh, yeah, I heard it, but I'm sorry, man,

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Speaker 3: I understand, I understand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny, but I heard that.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking to the my song if I told you,

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Speaker 3: I really thought that song did.

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Speaker 4: Like I didn't write it, but I thought that song

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Speaker 4: was going to get something.

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Speaker 3: And when they didn't get the CMA nomination, I texted

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Speaker 3: the writer and said, man, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: You should let somebody else cut.

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Speaker 2: You should add Chris Cableton singing, Yeah, nobody else.

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Speaker 4: Thinking that.

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Speaker 2: I was with you when you won your first Grammy

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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety five. Yeah, and uh so hooting and

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Speaker 2: the Blowfish and that's when I were you up against

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Speaker 2: the band Live uh for that?

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Speaker 3: Uh no, for uh I think the if I remember

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Speaker 3: for Best Artists it was a. I think Alanas and

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Speaker 3: and and I don't know if I might have been

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Speaker 3: in that too, but it was, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was a good day.

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Speaker 2: But they should win an award for the best use

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Speaker 2: of placenta in a song. I don't think too many

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Speaker 2: artists have used that since then in a song.

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Speaker 4: Well, I agree, you know, devonaorious big that's it.

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Speaker 2: But what's it like to win awards?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Man, it's pretty cool. Believe it or believe that at

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Speaker 3: the Grammys every time I've been dominated at one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, really happy for you three times? You're you're

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Speaker 2: three and oh that's true.

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Speaker 4: I'm three.

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Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. And like a lot of the

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Speaker 3: people know, like, uh, did Jimmy Carter?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: The Jimmy Carter Spoken Word Album won a Grammy last

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Speaker 3: year and I'm the only and I sang a song

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Speaker 3: for it. Uh, And I was the only thing. I

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Speaker 3: asked my management, I said, so they want the Grammar?

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Speaker 3: Can I get the Grammy?

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Speaker 4: And it was like, yeah, you want to pay for it?

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Speaker 5: I was like, I got four?

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Speaker 2: Now what about Cmas. Have you been in the audience

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Speaker 2: when they don't call your name?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, uh yeah, yeah I have. But it's

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Speaker 4: but it's.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's okay, you know, I mean, do you

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Speaker 3: know me, man, I don't really expect to win, and

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Speaker 3: so just being nominated's cool.

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Speaker 4: But you know that's that's always cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But what about when you don't get nominated at all?

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Speaker 2: Like us?

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Speaker 4: That's yeah, the moments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like like I said, like the song I there's

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Speaker 3: one songs I thought I should have gotten nominated for

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Speaker 3: and didn't, and it sucks.

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Speaker 4: But I agree.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're the Miami Dolphins of Emmys. The

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Speaker 2: Emmys make me cry.

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Speaker 4: I see that. I get that.

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Speaker 3: I get that, except the Dolphins won two.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem that long ago, doesn't dude?

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Speaker 4: That was the layoup man. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say this all the time. The Dolphins won

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Speaker 3: less than a Dolphins won Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I was seven. I don't about me sixty.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever thought of bailing on the Miami Dolls?

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Speaker 5: Never?

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Speaker 4: Not once? Never?

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Speaker 3: In one in thirteen season gutted me. The one in

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Speaker 3: fifteen season gutted me.

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Speaker 4: But never.

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Speaker 2: But if Dan Marino wasn't your friend and you named

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Speaker 2: your daughter after Dan Marino, would you still be a

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Speaker 2: Dolphins fan?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: I love Dan Marino and he's one of my favorite

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Speaker 3: but I'm some creezy and and you know Jim Kick

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Speaker 3: and Warris you know, those who are my wars.

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Speaker 4: You know that was that was my liney golf, you know.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I've never thought about leaving.

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Speaker 2: Uh how big are you in London? Like when you

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Speaker 2: walk around you get noticed.

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Speaker 3: I can recognize Evan now and then you know that

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Speaker 3: it is definitely not like in the States, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I played the O two. You know, I played

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Speaker 4: I do okay over here. Yeah, yeah, but definitely I

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Speaker 4: like the space.

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Speaker 2: And then I'll see you this summer. You'll be yeah,

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Speaker 2: you'll be nearby in the Bridgeport again now and you're

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Speaker 2: coming out. Oh, ye'all come out now. We still wouldn't

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Speaker 2: want to offer a sincere apology for the last time.

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Speaker 2: When Todd played the second song, so you paid up

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Speaker 2: on a bet and I told Tom Todd, I said,

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Speaker 2: Todd sing one Hall of Oates song. Did you know

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Speaker 2: he was going to sing a second Hall of Oats

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Speaker 2: song that night?

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Speaker 4: No, the band didn't even tell me. Tell me it was.

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Speaker 2: Awesome when you looked at me off stage when Fritzy's singing,

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Speaker 2: and you you mouthed, you know, I pay up on

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Speaker 2: my bets, and I felt bad because I think you

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Speaker 2: realized it was funny in the moment when we made

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Speaker 2: the bet, but it wasn't funny to the audience who

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Speaker 2: had no idea who Todd was.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 3: But but he's so good. But he's so good. That's

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Speaker 3: the thing that's crazy. He's so good. He can really sing.

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Speaker 2: And not that nice not that night that was okay.

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Speaker 2: How many lead singers sing with their hands in their pockets.

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Speaker 4: Pritty, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Liked Freddie Mercury didn't do it, or Robert Playout or Jagger,

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Speaker 2: But Todd had hands in his belt.

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Speaker 4: I can't think of one, but does.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations though, in order though, with what you're doing over

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Speaker 2: in London with a you got tour coming up.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely great to see it. Hey, this is guy. I

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Speaker 4: just tell you something real quick. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: Like ten minutes before I was coming on, I'm just

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Speaker 3: sitting around and I'm thinking about it. I was like, hey, man,

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Speaker 3: I got you know, I'm real good friends with Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Johnson's you know. I was like, hey, it takes Jimmy

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Speaker 3: and asked him, this is okay because we just decided

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Speaker 3: to do this, and you know, we can announce now

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Speaker 3: that I'm one of the investors and one of the

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Speaker 3: owners of the Legacy Motor Club, So so you know

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Speaker 3: I don't last car teams Danno can.

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Speaker 2: Me also, you're you're Jimmy Johnson's Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, this is you will love this. I just look,

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Speaker 4: I said, I want would I see Michael?

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Speaker 3: I will go, Hey, Michael Man, we got to start

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Speaker 3: a new club African American NAS.

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Speaker 2: It's not We've doesn't take long to call Roll, you

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Speaker 2: know what, get Tyler Perry maybe he could get involved here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool. But yeah, you know how much I

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Speaker 3: little motorsports, you know what. I believe in the NASCAR

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Speaker 3: for years, So this is pretty cool for me.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that. I know you're saying there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's a lot of races and stuff and

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Speaker 3: I's got a lot of friends, you know, in that star.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, this is this is pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Southern man, come on, okay, we were talking about this

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Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan. How involved is it? North Carolina? Hubert

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Speaker 2: Davis getting fired and I'm curious how how involved are

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Speaker 2: you with South Carolina.

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Speaker 4: It's not like that, you know what I say would

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Speaker 4: make a difference, But.

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Speaker 6: Uh, I get I get TXs like when when things

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Speaker 6: are getting tough, they check how I mean it doesn't

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Speaker 6: I don't think it would really matter, but they check.

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Speaker 4: What I would think, Yes, I would say that.

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Speaker 2: But like investing, you know, can can you do be

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Speaker 2: part of the collective?

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Speaker 4: There?

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Speaker 2: I know you you got like some train car that

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Speaker 2: you party and when you go to South carolinaotball.

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Speaker 4: I had a part of the collection. I'm playing the

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Speaker 4: show there. Hey, there you go, ap eleven. I'm playing

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Speaker 4: to show with the at the basketball.

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Speaker 3: Rata for for the collector for the nail for the

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Speaker 3: nail thing and uh yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Think I got not a lot of I got, Like

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Speaker 4: I tell you one thing.

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of national championship rings that are

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Speaker 3: gone as hell.

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Speaker 2: Did you get wait, you got her wedding ring on?

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Speaker 4: Oh it's just my or ring to work out? Oh

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Speaker 4: I am not married now I did not get married.

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Speaker 4: You will know, okay, you will know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how's your bracket?

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Speaker 4: By the way, not good?

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Speaker 6: Not good?

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Speaker 4: But you know who's this good?

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Speaker 3: And this is me, dam this is like so me,

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Speaker 3: you know, like I'm in seven fantasy leagues and make

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Speaker 3: the playoff for one.

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Speaker 4: I do this league I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing this great bracket thing with some buddies of

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Speaker 3: minor but there's fourteen of us and we do a

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Speaker 3: lot of sports stuff together and we're doing a brack.

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Speaker 3: And I looked yesterday, Man, I'm in the last place.

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Speaker 2: And you gamble too, Oh man, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I gamble. I gamble, And yeah, I'm still gonna do this.

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Speaker 3: Me and my buddy that played golf and said, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna start a website and it's gonna be we have

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Speaker 3: a great name for it's gonna be the bets I make.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you an hour before the game starts,

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Speaker 3: my best I'm gonna make, and you should go against me.

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Speaker 4: And that's gonna be the whole website.

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Speaker 2: But do you bet like Barkley level?

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Speaker 4: No? Man, no, Dan, you know I'm too scared to

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Speaker 4: be broke every do anything like we broke again. No, No,

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Speaker 4: not at all. But you know it's gonna be enough

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Speaker 4: to hurt. But but not like that.

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Speaker 2: All right, If I said the Dolphins can win a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl or the Reds can win the World Series

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Speaker 2: since you have your Cincinnati Reds T shirt on.

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Speaker 4: Oh Dolphins, okay, oh definitely, yeah Dolphins. I love the

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Speaker 4: Reds helped me won's World Series. But yeah, Dolphins ball.

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Speaker 2: But you love Barry Larkin, don't you?

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Speaker 4: My favorite baseball player ball time? Yes? I love Verry

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Speaker 4: Lowton nineties team and that nineties team, are you tidding me?

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Speaker 4: Great team?

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Speaker 3: Eric Davis, Eric Davis, that whole team and then the uh,

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Speaker 3: the pictures from the as saying after they get swept.

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Speaker 4: You know the thing that sucks is the best team

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Speaker 4: didn't win. You just lost four games in a row. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was a great team.

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Speaker 2: When you're coming back state side, uh.

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Speaker 4: Elite, elite, all all the April that chosen stuff to do.

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Speaker 4: So you know what we need to get together?

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Speaker 4: We're getting old, bro, we're getting old.

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Speaker 2: You had a hair win I knew you.

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Speaker 2: And that's where we are. And you're measured by the

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, I think you're right on the money there, Dan

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Speaker 4: But it did.

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Speaker 7: I was at the game in Greenville when they blew

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Speaker 2: Let me give you what information I got this morning

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Speaker 7: Accept And I wrote this today, uh in our in

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Speaker 7: They're just no, there is no Roy Williams waiting in

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Speaker 7: I don't think terribly involved. I mean, he can, of

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard much about Bill Belichick in Carolina. Football

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Speaker 7: I mean, I guess it wasn't an abject disaster by

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Speaker 7: They'll probably be a little better. I think Belichick is

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Speaker 2: Is he getting married? I don't know, Dan.

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Speaker 7: If so, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Invited, Okay, I mean neither. Thank you, Scott, thanks for

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Speaker 7: Great to see you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Give me the one thing that would make you change

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Speaker 5: Dan first, were great to be with you as always.

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Speaker 5: I think the only thing you want to wait on

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Speaker 5: play was outstanding. The way he did under pressure in games.

443
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 5: Leveruld say, well, they won in some cake walks, right.

444
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 5: They didn't against Penn State, they didn't against Oregon. There

445
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 5: were games that were hotly confessed. He had to make

446
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 5: plays late. Iowa was defense will frustrate the hell out

447
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 5: of you, Dan, they really will. Phil Parker does a

448
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 5: great job. Look what they did against Dante Moore. You know,

449
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 5: you think about quarterbacks against Iowa, and again he did

450
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 5: what he had to do late in that game. So

451
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 5: for me, he answered every question that you had from

452
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 5: Cal to Indiana because we had great talent. Well go

453
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Speaker 5: into the year. I know Omar Cooper Junior could be

454
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 5: a first round receiver, Elijah Sharratz a good third round receiver.

455
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 5: You Roman Hem became from Maryland, did a good job

456
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 5: run the ball, and Kaylin Black did a good job

457
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 5: as well, being at one two punch. But for me,

458
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 5: Fernando Mendoza for what he did from start to finish

459
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 5: with the pressure and in the playoffs stand eight touchdown passes,

460
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 5: no picks and a rushing touchdown and he was at

461
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 5: seventy five percent in the three biggest games of the

462
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 5: year at the end of the season.

463
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Speaker 2: If you were drafting him on what you saw at Cow,

464
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Speaker 2: not Indiana, where would Mendoza go?

465
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Speaker 5: Well, he probably, you know, going into the year, you

466
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Speaker 5: hoped he would improve. If you would have just come

467
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 5: out after the Cow year, you probably would have been

468
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Speaker 5: thinking maybe because of the talent that he had. He

469
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 5: showed what he could do at col even what he

470
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 5: had some situations that weren't benefiting the quarterback that he

471
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Speaker 5: had to deal with. I'm talking about pressure from the

472
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Speaker 5: defensive front. He still probably would have been a second

473
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Speaker 5: round pick, late first round pick. So he was a

474
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Speaker 5: guy that people thought. I'm on people in the NFL.

475
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 5: My friends in the league, Dan thought back in August

476
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 5: he could be a guy to keep a close eye on.

477
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Speaker 5: But there were other guys that were talking about Arch

478
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 5: Manning being the number one pick guaranteed. Yeah, you're talking

479
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 5: about Sam Levin coming off that great year at Arizona State,

480
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 5: Leonora Sellers at South Carolina. Tons of quarterbacks were talked

481
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 5: about a lot more than ty Simpson from Alabama, and

482
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Speaker 5: certainly for Nando Mendoza from Indiana. And now all of

483
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 5: a sudden, I got Mendozo's number one of my big board.

484
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 5: Dan and ty Simson's twenty five won my big board.

485
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a big disparity, one to twenty five. Dan

486
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 2: Arlovsky loves him some, Ty Simpson. What is Orlovsky seeing that?

487
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: Maybe you're not seeing? Yeah, I know Dan.

488
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 5: When he explained it, and I just went back away.

489
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Speaker 5: I would counter that. You say, Okay, you know the

490
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 5: factors that you have to look at closely. You know

491
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 5: who's the bigger quarterback four inches nearly four inches taller,

492
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 5: twenty five pounds heavier. You think about the experience, Dan,

493
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 5: fifteen starts is a dangerous risky number for ty Simpson.

494
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 5: Look at the you know the seven eight quarterbacks that

495
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 5: had below twenty starts and look how they fared not well.

496
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Speaker 5: So again that's a risky number. Fernando has thirty five starts. Dan,

497
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 5: he had a completion president of seventy two percent. Ty

498
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 5: was around sixty four percent. Seven rushing touchdowns for Fernando,

499
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Speaker 5: two for Simpson. So you talk about accuracy, you talk

500
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 5: about decision making, you talk about being able to see

501
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 5: the field, dealing with pressure to have about expectations, Dan,

502
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 5: when you're an Indiana quarterback and you roll through the

503
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Speaker 5: year and you get to the playoffs, everybody's saying, after

504
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 5: what happened last year, Okay, when you know Indiana had

505
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 5: a great regular season, then you lose a notre name. Well,

506
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 5: let's see if the Ada can finished the job. Now

507
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 5: they're playing big time opponents. He did that with all

508
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 5: that pressure. Then he wins the Heisman. Then he has

509
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 5: to go win a national title. Right. He always talked

510
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 5: about cracking the code, and he is obsessed with that.

511
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 5: He kind of has that Peyton Manning ability in that

512
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 5: regard to just be so into what he's doing and

513
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 5: studying it so hard. He's got a little Matt Ryan

514
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 5: in him. So I think if you look at comps,

515
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Speaker 5: it would be kind of a Peyton Manning Matt Ryan

516
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 5: comp for Fernando Mendoza. Dan explained, that I don't agree.

517
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 5: Everybody has their opinion. I was big on Shador Sanders

518
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 5: last year, and I thought Shador played well this year.

519
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 5: We'll see how it plays out. For Ty Simpson, I

520
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 5: think that with fifteen stars, sure at sixty, but fifteen starts,

521
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 5: you need to have a chance to transition to the

522
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 5: NFL another year at Alabama, I think it would have

523
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 5: helped him. He had five straight games DAN where he

524
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 5: had a fumble lost, and then he had another fumble

525
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 5: loss which was a sixth against Indiana in the playoff

526
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: game when he got hit by D'Angelo Pons and cracked

527
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 5: that rib. So those are at an area he could

528
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 5: have improved upon. He get sacked and coughing up. Can't

529
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 5: do that in the NFL, where you're expected. Dan. In

530
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 5: the NFL, and you guys know what you talk about

531
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 5: every week, Guy is a bad game.

532
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: What happened?

533
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: He's not playing well. You are scrutinized, you are picked apart,

534
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 5: and you're expected to play at a consistently high level

535
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 5: every week in the NFL. And you don't get any

536
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 5: free pass as you'r a rookie or a second year

537
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 5: quarterback in this league, they will chew you up and

538
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 5: spit you out before you can blink. You better be

539
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 5: prepared to deal with that mental part as opposed to

540
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 5: the physical part. Mendoz went back, got another year, improved

541
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Speaker 5: in that key area. Ty Simpson I think needed another year.

542
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 5: He's not gonna get it. So you better be patient

543
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 5: with ty Simpson and realize to force him in this

544
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 5: year as a rookie, and they all do, Dan, they

545
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 5: all are gonna play. Maybe asking a little too much.

546
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: If Arch Manning was available in this draft, you know, that's.

547
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 5: A tough question. That's a very difficult question because of

548
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 5: what you expect Arch to be this coming year based

549
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 5: on the talent, the way he can run together. But

550
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 5: he's got to improve that accuracy and the decision, all

551
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 5: the things that another year is gonna been. I was

552
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 5: so happy. That's why I never put him on the

553
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 5: big board.

554
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Speaker 3: Dan.

555
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 5: I never put him in anything because I said he's

556
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 5: got to go back. Archie said that back in August.

557
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 5: Don't put him in it. He needs another year. So

558
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 5: the expectations and the struggles back. Remember only in the

559
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 5: year everybody was building up to be to trifect the Dan.

560
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 5: He was gonna win a Heisman Trophy. He was gonna

561
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 5: be the number one pick in the draft, and he

562
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 5: was going to lead the Texas to a national title.

563
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? Really, that's what you're gonna put

564
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 5: on his shoulders. And he didn't accomplish that. So again,

565
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: now he's going back. So had it gone the way expected,

566
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 5: he'd been clear cut number one guy Dan for on talent,

567
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 5: but he didn't had that kind of year. It was uneven.

568
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 5: Started out pretty bad, and then it got better and

569
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 5: you saw glimpses of God, he's gonna be the guaranteed

570
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 5: number one pick this coming year. But to say, you know,

571
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 5: assume that was gonna happen, it didn't happen. It didn't

572
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 5: come together. So he'd have been right there with Mendoz.

573
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 5: And I think that's minimizing how good Fernando is.

574
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Speaker 4: Dan.

575
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Speaker 5: When you say automatically put Archi ahead of Mendoza, it's

576
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: not a force. He's not up there because he's a

577
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 5: quarterback and the Raiders have to take a quarterback. Mendoza

578
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 5: is there because he earned it and he's got a

579
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 5: lot of talent. And when you got comps the Peyton,

580
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 5: Manning and Matt Ryan, that tells you all you need

581
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 5: to know.

582
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Speaker 2: Mel kiper draft expert. You can catch his NFL mock

583
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Speaker 2: Draft four point zero dropping on Tuesday, April fourteen. I

584
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: fell in love with Jeremiah Love when I saw him

585
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: in person, and I know, I think you have him

586
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: as your second highest rated player behind Mendoza. I know

587
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 2: that the philosophy is don't take a running back up

588
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: that high. But I have somebody who is unique and

589
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: different than anybody else. It feels like in the draft,

590
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: I just don't I don't understand that that. If I'm Tennessee,

591
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta have that guy. I can't go. Oh,

592
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: I got to worry about a second contract. The NFL

593
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: was about now in the next two years. It feels

594
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: like with these guys and coaches, So why wouldn't he go? Well,

595
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: how high do you think Jeremiah Love will go and

596
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: should go?

597
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 5: Dan? You know who's responsible for that philosophy? I am right.

598
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: That was the philosophy that started twenty five years ago.

599
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: And I got screened that screened at, yelled at tell

600
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 5: it all kind of stuff. And I really believe that

601
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 5: back in those days, you could I've kind of come

602
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 5: around and not come around, But I'm agreeing with you

603
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 5: on this point. He's more than a running back. If

604
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: he were not a great receiving option, I'd be saying, no, no,

605
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: he has not multi dimensional enough. But as a receiving option,

606
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 5: I'm talking about swing pass, the screen passes, day and checkdowns.

607
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 4: I'm talking about put.

608
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 5: Him out in the slot. Put him why he can

609
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 5: do that. So for me, because he's so more than

610
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 5: just a running back, he is worthy of being the

611
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 5: second pick, third pick to Arizona, fourth pick to Tennessee,

612
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: seventh pick to Washington, wherever it may be. So for me, yes,

613
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey, say for Washington. Came there, you know, came

614
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 5: to the forty nine ers, right, and look what he's

615
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 5: done for the Niners. Christian McCaffrey, who is a GM

616
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Speaker 5: Adam Peters. Adam Peters is at Washington. Adam Peters had

617
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 5: some serviceable backs, but he doesn't have a Jeremiah Love

618
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 5: for Jayde Daniels, who's a fear factor quarterback. You put

619
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Speaker 5: a fear factor player weapon like Jeremiah Love with Jayde

620
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 5: and Daniels. You got something special going on there, and

621
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 5: so much for defenses to worry about. So I'm with

622
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Speaker 5: you on Jeremiah Love. He's the second best player in

623
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: the draft behind Mendoza for me, somethink, but he's the

624
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 5: best player in this draft. So again, he's more than

625
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 5: worthy of being a top four. Certainly, if he gets

626
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: down to seven, it would be almost you know how

627
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 5: long you have to wait for Washington to take that

628
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 5: card up, because that would make perfect sense for them.

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Speaker 2: NFL Hall of Fame Contributors to the Game. I keep

630
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: talking about you. I never reached out to you, but

631
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: I felt this strongly about Brent Musburger and went to

632
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame and wrote a letter. You should

633
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame one day as a

634
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Speaker 2: contributor to the game.

635
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Speaker 5: I appreciate that, Dan, and I know Adam has mentioned.

636
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 5: I appreciate that you've been great friends for all these years.

637
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 5: But I just feel like I don't want a part

638
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 5: of anything. I just want to do what I do.

639
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 5: Joel Buschbound was there before me. Joel was great, late

640
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 5: great Joel Bushbounce started this a long time ago. There

641
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 5: are plenty of other people doing this before me. I

642
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 5: just got an opportunity for me ESPN to take it

643
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 5: to the entire world and be somebody that was talking

644
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 5: about the draft one television, radio and then the dot

645
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 5: com and all the different entities we do it on.

646
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: So it is something that you know, I will say

647
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Speaker 5: is Dand one thing I did get right was how

648
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 5: popular the draft would be when everybody was fighting against

649
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 5: the ESPN. Don't televise it. Nobody wants to just hear

650
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 5: names called. Everybody was fighting against me. Why is anybody

651
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 5: watching the draft? Why does anybody care? What Kuiper says.

652
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 5: I dealt with that hostility, negativity and hate up until

653
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 5: really the early two thousand stand when even the haters

654
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: had to just shut up or jump on board because

655
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Speaker 5: they hated on me. I started this in nineteen seventy eight,

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Speaker 5: seventy nine, Dan, and to I just say, the only

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Speaker 5: thing I did was I survived the hate. If I

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Speaker 5: read you the scathing articles and the comments that were

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Speaker 5: made from really seventy nine up until two thousand, it

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Speaker 5: would say, how did you last that long? I took

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Speaker 5: a lot of hits in the pocket. Then I appreciate that, Pal.

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Speaker 5: I certainly I would rather avoid anything that comes my

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Speaker 5: way from an individual stam because's too eighty people at

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Speaker 5: ESPN along the way contributed to what the draft has become.

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Speaker 5: To say, I'm responding now, it's the NFL, the king

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Speaker 5: of all sports, and ESPN doing what they did from

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Speaker 5: the get go, recognizing what this could be and having

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Speaker 5: that vision, and then the production and all the blood,

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Speaker 5: sweat and tears that went on to putting this on television.

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Speaker 5: Those guys, all guys and gals, those men and women

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Speaker 5: deserve all the credits.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like an acceptance speech right there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's like but I okay. I wrote a letter about

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Speaker 2: John Facenda. I said he should be in the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame, and the number of people said he's not

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of fame. In the hall of fame.

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Speaker 2: To their credit, UH found a way to get John Facenda.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that voice. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: Dan, They went in the Hall of fame. That's he

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Speaker 2: might be. When you talk about contributors, all those NFL films,

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Speaker 2: everything that we saw, I mean, they were magical growing up,

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Speaker 2: and I just thought voices.

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Speaker 5: Voices led us led me to become. I said this

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Speaker 5: to Bill Fleming, the Bill Fletning, the Great Bill Fleming,

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Speaker 5: when I taught I called him specifically to tell him

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Speaker 5: that that he the college football today that's half an

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Speaker 5: hour show where he saw games before Brenton before NFL today. Right,

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Speaker 5: it's a half hour before seeing the bands at halftime.

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Speaker 5: That's what led me and led a lot of people

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Speaker 5: to becoming college football fans, right, and NFL fans and

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Speaker 5: Howard Cosell and Monday Night Football and Don Meredith, will

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Speaker 5: you'll turn out the lights and all the voices you

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Speaker 5: know of college football and the NFL, Chris Shankle. You

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Speaker 5: think about Bud Wilkinson, by the way, I took over

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Speaker 5: for Bud doing the draft when Bud Wilkinson retired, I

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Speaker 5: took over that spot, right, And you think about I say,

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Speaker 5: Lindsey Nelson and all the incredible voices Keith Jackson that

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Speaker 5: were responsible for us all becoming great college and pro

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Speaker 5: football fans that we are. So you're right, John Facenda,

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Speaker 5: nobody had that voice. Nobody will ever touch that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again, continue to have the passion. That's the one

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Speaker 2: thing that leaves us. I think as we get older,

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Speaker 2: the passion. And you're as passionate as you were when

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Speaker 2: I first met you, when I first got to the Mothership.

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Speaker 2: So thank you. Again for doing what you do, meiling.

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Speaker 5: The passion the windows, Dad, I will walk away. How

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Speaker 5: I guarantee you

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Speaker 2: That mel kiper draft expert