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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Stealer Nation, It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Question Seler. Matt Williamson with you here as

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Speaker 2: always for the next two hours on this Friday.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Matthew a lot man psyche for britt Floyd

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Speaker 3: in studio. I'm going to the show tonight too. We

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Speaker 3: mentioned that yesterday yep Son's going back to Kentucky tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: So that's big news. I guess. On the Williamson household, you.

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Speaker 2: Know they've got March Madness today, don't they.

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Speaker 3: Yes, was he all jacked up and I was in

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Speaker 3: the middle of a podcast and I saw him run out,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, he's gonna be gone for the day.

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Speaker 3: Right between that and one of his best friends as

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Speaker 3: a freshman at Miami Ohio, so they one and they're

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Speaker 3: in and they play today. Yeah, so I think all

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Speaker 3: the dudes are getting together all day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome, love it. It is a wonderful time

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Speaker 2: of the year. We will, of course have Jack Ham

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Speaker 2: joining us today as well, which is gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 2: A Steelers absolute legend. Four time Super Bowl Champion, Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer Penn Stater, part of the Penn State broadcast crew.

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Speaker 2: He is the color commentator, so he's like the Max

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Speaker 2: Starks for the for the for the Penn State broadcasts.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we want to pick his brain Vega, Yuana, Drew Aller,

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Speaker 2: Zakey Wheatley, some of these Penn States.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just catch.

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Speaker 2: Catch up with you know, ketch up with Jack and

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Speaker 2: see how see how he's doing and everything. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he's chomping at the bit, champing at the bit, chomping

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Speaker 2: at the bed, or champing at the bit after fit

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Speaker 2: the bill, after fit the bill, or foot the bill yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We're champing and chomping today to get out on the

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Speaker 2: golf course if I know Jack Ham really so, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure we'll have some fun talking with him here today.

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Speaker 2: But Matt, just to get us started, there was an interesting,

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Speaker 2: you know, not as much news of the day, but

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Speaker 2: ESPN put out an article kind of of the ten

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Speaker 2: best free agency moves from right from Seth Walder.

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of like an analytic based guy. He

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Speaker 3: does good work.

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Speaker 2: Little kind of like a similar to to our friend

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Speaker 2: Cynthia Freudland, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, a different

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Speaker 2: way of looking at things. But I agree does good work,

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Speaker 2: and I always enjoy the perspective. Some of these I

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Speaker 2: agree with, some of these I disagree with, And I

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Speaker 2: just wanted to run these by you and get your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Yea.

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Speaker 2: As we continue to kind of uh, you know, put

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Speaker 2: a bow and and and everything on on the busy

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Speaker 2: week or so of free agency that is now settled.

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Speaker 3: Down, all things are slowing down though.

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Speaker 2: Their number one free agency signing, quarterback Kyler Murray, signs

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Speaker 2: with the Vikings. Now part of the logic, too, is

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Speaker 2: is that they're paying him just one point three million.

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Speaker 3: Dollars analytics and you know the numbers behind it and

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Speaker 3: all that value. You know, how you best use your resources.

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Speaker 3: So how can you argue with it? You know, like,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't mean well, the Steeler should have done the

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Speaker 3: exact same thing and beat him to it. You know,

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Speaker 3: That's not what I'm saying. But considering you get a

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Speaker 3: starting quarterback for a million dollars a year and you

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Speaker 3: really didn't have one, what's wrong with that?

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good?

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Speaker 4: Right, right, right?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And I've been on record many times over the last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm the same way.

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Speaker 2: I certainly think he belongs as a quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League, of course, because he's unless he completely

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Speaker 2: falls off a cliff this year, he's one of the best,

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Speaker 2: probably twenty quarterbacks in the world. Yeah, but I just

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Speaker 2: think there's an inherent ceiling with him. And no, that's

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Speaker 2: not a hype joke. Okay, not bad. I just think

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Speaker 2: there's an inherent ceiling with him that I don't love.

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Speaker 2: But to get him one year, look like, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: But from that perspective, one year one point three million

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Speaker 2: dollars for a quarterback like that, the value I certainly understand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you look it through a Vikings lens.

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Speaker 3: What other options did they really have too? I mean

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Speaker 3: I think that's as good as any you know, they

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Speaker 3: might revitalize his career. They did it with Darnold, They.

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Speaker 2: Did that, they did. Yeah, certainly a good good landing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he should be excited. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Number two on their list of a grades for free

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Speaker 2: agency signings, Matt Is the Malik Willis signing of the

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Speaker 3: I ninety eight percent agree because everyone knows I'm a

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Speaker 3: I'm a I'm not a believer. I just think it's

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Speaker 3: a great risk to take.

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Speaker 2: That's what basically it's. It's a chance for quarterback upside

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Speaker 2: for Miami. Yeah, it's big money, but it's not going

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Speaker 2: too crazy. It's not going to cripple you if it

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Speaker 2: attag of viola contracts exactly.

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Speaker 3: And it doesn't cost you. It's different than using the

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Speaker 3: second overall pick on a guy or you know that.

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Speaker 3: That's why I was really interested for the Steelers is

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Speaker 3: you might get your answer without having to pay answer prices,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And if he's horrible, well

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Speaker 3: you're probably picking pretty high anyway. My problem is what

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Speaker 3: Miami did other than that, you know, like it's almost

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Speaker 3: like they had to eat their vegetables, they had to

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Speaker 3: take their vitamins. So I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 3: them dumping everybody or you know, getting you know, creating

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Speaker 3: It's just I don't know that it's fair to Willis.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Kennedy one to the other.

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Speaker 2: You're not putting him in the best place to succeed, No.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, I mean, they're not gonna win many games,

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Speaker 3: even if he's the best quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, they went from an offense

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, and when Tyreek was

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Speaker 2: got a lines. Okay, they've got the best center in

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Speaker 2: the world, but a lot of those parts are gone.

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Speaker 2: The defense has been stripped down to which doesn't directly

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Speaker 2: affect Willis. You're gonna have to win. You're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to win more thirty five to thirty one type games.

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Speaker 3: I think certainly they have a ton of picks, but

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Speaker 3: as of now, they have nobody to throw to. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but I don't know that you.

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Speaker 3: Can properly evaluate him.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be the biggest question to keep an eye

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Speaker 2: on throughout twenty twenty six. Number three, Matt and you you.

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Speaker 2: I think liked this deal, but it's actually when we

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Speaker 2: didn't talk about too much. Riek Wohland signing with the

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Speaker 3: Just knowing their history and Fangio and all that, I

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Speaker 3: think they'll get the most out of an inconsistent but

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Speaker 3: super talented player. And frankly, he's the two or three.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Jean's the slot and Mitchell's the star.

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Speaker 3: I'm not asked to be guarding the top guys all

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Speaker 2: Like he did a rookie, just play a role and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of the weakest spots on their team.

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Speaker 3: You know that cornerback too, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Number four offensive tackle Rashid Walker signing with the Panthers

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Speaker 2: one year up to ten million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was late in apros. So that just happened

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Speaker 2: Seth's logic was basically free agency models ahead of time

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Speaker 2: predicted him getting around twenty twenty one million a year,

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Speaker 3: I didn't read the article, so I was curious what

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Speaker 3: some rumblings that Walker had some injury stuff, which is

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Speaker 3: why he lingered. It wasn't him trying to hold out

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Speaker 3: get over it.

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Speaker 2: A few more of these a grades in free agency.

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Speaker 2: Number five offensive lineman, a name that Matt was keeping

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Speaker 2: his eyes on, Elsdon Jenkins signs with the Browns two years,

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Speaker 2: twenty four million.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I thought that worked out well too for them. I

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the plan for Cleveland is. They've

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Speaker 3: us some things too. But him him even becoming available.

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Speaker 3: He's not the superstar pro bowler that he was, but

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Speaker 3: he's still a high quality player and would have helped

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Speaker 2: And isn't even thirty years old yet, yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, still younger than Smalu or you.

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Speaker 2: Isaac Say Amalu signing with the Cardinals. Cardinals getting a

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Speaker 2: valuable piece at a value price. Reference references his experience,

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Speaker 2: references his high run block and past block grades last season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not kicking him as he goes out the door,

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Speaker 3: him back. But I don't think his run block in

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Speaker 3: past block raides imply that he's like one of the

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Speaker 3: best guards in the league, in which I don't tiny

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think he's fallen off a

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Speaker 2: think he's as good now as he was when he

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Speaker 3: Ago, right, I Mean, the biggest thing I liked from

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Speaker 3: a Steeler perspective with all our young linemen, and this

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Speaker 3: is probably true with Arizona is the leadership and experience

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Speaker 2: And right in the room. Yeah, the kids like to

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Speaker 3: We all know he doesn't rarely practices on Wednesdays and

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Speaker 3: is kind of held together, you know. And the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: are in a much different spot than the Steelers. I

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Speaker 3: just wouldn't have signed as many old guys as they did.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, Yeah, exactly right. And it'd be one thing

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Speaker 2: if you felt like they had a couple up and

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Speaker 2: coming pieces on that offensive.

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Speaker 3: Right and maybe they'll draft one of three, that's true,

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Speaker 2: Last one Matt to get an A grade. Here on

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Speaker 2: this list is Brayden Smith signing with the Texans two years,

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Speaker 2: twenty five million. You take away a starting offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: from in the division, from your division rivals, and at

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Speaker 2: twelve and a half million per year, when you kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. They need a starting right tackle. And I

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Speaker 3: do think it takes a little bit of risk away

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Speaker 5: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here,

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here on this Friday afternoon and

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Thank you so much for taking the time.

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Speaker 2: How's how's the golf game? I gotta imagine you're very

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm doing fine, but I don't think my golf

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Speaker 2: Jack, just do me a favor, and please don't let

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Speaker 4: Well, you want to just made himself into an outstanding

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Speaker 3: Jack, great to talk to you, and I want to

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Speaker 4: Well, I think everybody, with the Penn State coaching staff

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Speaker 4: have the big, the big breakout year with all the

437
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Speaker 4: talent coming back with the running backs and the offensive line,

438
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Speaker 4: our tight ends and so forth, and but it didn't.

439
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 4: It didn't pan out that way for a number of

440
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 4: different reasons. And number one, uh, I don't think Drew

441
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 4: Aller has never had a really solid wide receiver corps

442
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 4: to throw the football too, and when big games, when

443
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 4: when you're playing against very good secondary the Ohio States,

444
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 4: the Michigans, Oregon's. Uh, people like that in the Notre

445
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 4: Dame in the game last year where we're you know,

446
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 4: we are one game away from playing for the national championship.

447
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 4: You know, you never did have that that wide receiver

448
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 4: corps to throw to. And uh, yeah, he's taken a

449
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 4: lot of heat by not being able to finish games

450
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 4: against good football teams. And that's that's valid because that's

451
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 4: on that is on his resume. Uh. But he's got

452
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Speaker 4: all the all the intangibles in the sense of being

453
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Speaker 4: able to be six or five look over top of

454
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Speaker 4: a defensive line to throw the football. He's got a

455
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 4: rocket of an arm. He can't put touch on it

456
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 4: as well. Uh, but that's one thing to do it

457
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Speaker 4: in the combine one any thing to do it at

458
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 4: Pro Day, but you have to put it on tape.

459
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Speaker 4: And so he has not done that as of yet.

460
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Speaker 4: But I think his potential is out there. Somebody's going

461
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Speaker 4: to take a shot at him, and probably in the

462
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Speaker 4: first couple of rounds and we'll see what happens. But

463
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Speaker 4: I think people have to be aware that he never

464
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Speaker 4: in his entire career at Penn State had a quality

465
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Speaker 4: wide receiver corps in front of him.

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Speaker 3: That's a great point. And even with the addition of Brisker,

467
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Speaker 3: I think the Steelers will probably draft a safety at

468
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Speaker 3: some point. What are your thoughts on Wheatly as an

469
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Speaker 3: NFL prospect.

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Speaker 4: Well, Wheatley, he's kind of like a Brisker. Brisker is

471
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Speaker 4: probably a little bit quicker. I don't think that Wheatly

472
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Speaker 4: timed well on the forty, which is you know, that's

473
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Speaker 4: a big barometer for defensive backs and wide receivers especially.

474
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Speaker 4: But he is the guy that I mean, he just

475
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: made himself into a great player. The one thing he

476
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 4: does is he has outstanding hands to interceptions that come

477
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Speaker 4: towards him. He does not miss him. He probably the

478
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Speaker 4: best hands of any but on the entire Penn State

479
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 4: football team last year. That's including wide receivers and tight

480
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: ends as well. And he's that type of player. Again,

481
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 4: he's like Risker, a smart player. Each year, got better,

482
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 4: very physical, good good tackler. That but that forty yard

483
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Speaker 4: dash time I think is somebody could have probably knocked

484
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Speaker 4: him down a couple of couple of rounds. But he's

485
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Speaker 4: a he's a true football player and again a safety

486
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Speaker 4: that knows how to play back there. Mentally, he's very, very,

487
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Speaker 4: very tough. So I looked for him to have a

488
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Speaker 4: long career, but I think that forty yard dashtime is

489
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Speaker 4: going to hold him back.

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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 3: Last thing I have for you is, I think there's

492
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Speaker 3: an unsung member of one of your teammates of the

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Speaker 3: Steel Curtain and Ernie Holmes, and I bet a lot

494
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Speaker 3: of our younger listeners don't understand what a force he

495
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Speaker 3: was on the field. Could you kind of tell us

496
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Speaker 3: a little bit about what he meant to you guys' success.

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Speaker 4: You talk about guys on our defense who didn't get

498
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Speaker 4: the recognition they Ernie Holmes for about five or six

499
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 4: years was just a dominant defensive lineman. You're playing next to,

500
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: you know, the all world Joe Green, so you are

501
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 4: not going to get that kind of recognition and that

502
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 4: was difficult for him to handle. But he was a

503
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Speaker 4: guy that in a championship games against I look back

504
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Speaker 4: at the game against Oakland when he played against Gene Upshaw,

505
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Speaker 4: an All Pro Hall of Fame offensive guard, and absolutely

506
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: destroyed him. In our first run to our first Super

507
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Speaker 4: Bowl and beating Oakland out in Oakland. Ernie Holmes was

508
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Speaker 4: that type of dominant player and with leverage it was

509
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Speaker 4: about two hundred and eighty five pounds. And you know,

510
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Speaker 4: you talk about a guy who he was tough on

511
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Speaker 4: the field, tough off the field.

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Speaker 3: He had.

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Speaker 4: He had a reputation that I think offensive lineman, I know,

514
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Speaker 4: pro football, you're not afraid of anybody, but you were

515
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 4: ever going to be afraid of somebody would be Ernie Holmes.

516
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Speaker 2: Fantastic. The great Jack Ham Pro Football Hall of Famer,

517
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Speaker 2: College Football hall of Famer, four time Super Bowl champion,

518
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Speaker 2: kind enough to lend us some of his time on

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Speaker 2: a Friday. Jack, great stuff. Thank you so much for

520
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: taking the time and all the best. We'll talk to

521
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: you soon.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, guys, thank you very much.

523
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Speaker 2: Take care there he goes you two. Great stuff.

524
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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun, man.

526
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's an honor.

527
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Speaker 2: For those that are watching, because you know we have

528
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Speaker 2: we have a sizable YouTube audience obviously, but a massive

529
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 2: kind of podcast audio audience too. If you watch this

530
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: this one on the YouTube side, you'll see Matt and

531
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Speaker 2: I just grinning like a Butcher's dog big time. The

532
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Speaker 2: whole time we were talking to Jack. That was awesome.

533
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Speaker 2: I want to dig into a few of the things

534
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Speaker 2: that he said, kind of follow up on that more

535
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Speaker 2: when we return on the other side.

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Speaker 3: Real quick thing I would throw in, because you know

537
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Speaker 3: how there's always a legend up at camp. And the

538
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Speaker 3: one time Mel Blunt sat down with us and I

539
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: didn't even realize I was doing it until after we

540
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: get off the air, but I kept calling him mister Blunt,

541
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: and Dale's like, that's cool and all, but you gotta

542
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: be a little more professional, and like I was like, yeah,

543
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: but that's about blood. I like to make sure I

544
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: did not call him mister Ham today. But that's really

545
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 3: how it was true. That came out of my mouth.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, you I do that same thing all the time.

547
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: And I still my buddy's parents, you know, like parents

548
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: that I've known since I was six or seven. I

549
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: still call them mister or missus Williamson. Yeah, and they're like,

550
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: call me Matt, and I'm like, no, Like I know

551
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Speaker 2: that I'm thirty five now, but you're you're mister Williamson

552
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: to me. You heard like when I when I called

553
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: Jack on the phone to get him on here. I

554
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: was like, mister Ham, how's it going. Yeah, But then

555
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: when we get on air, I'll call him Jack just

556
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Speaker 2: for a professional element.

557
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure I could call him Jack.

558
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Speaker 2: I know I've told you. I know, I've told you

559
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: this story a few times before. I think I've even

560
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: told he on air once or twice. But speaking of

561
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: training camp in Latrobe, the first time I met Jack

562
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 2: Ham was in twenty eighteen. Him and him and his

563
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: wife Joe Anne are big Symphony fans.

564
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so he won't camp.

565
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Speaker 2: So that's how he got to know. My dad was

566
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Speaker 2: through the Symphony and so I Actually, funny enough, it

567
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: was the Symphony was doing a Queen like a night

568
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: of Queen music. They brought in a really good front man,

569
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Speaker 2: lead singer, Freddy Mercury type, and they played the music

570
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: and this guy sang all the songs. Two hours of

571
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Speaker 2: queen music. It was a lot of fun. My wife

572
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: and I actually went with Punch and his wife back

573
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. So after the show's over, my dad

574
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: texts us and he's like, I'm meeting Jack Ham right

575
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: around the corner at Morton's for a drink. You guys

576
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: got to come over and say hello and all that.

577
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Speaker 2: So that was the first time I ever met Jack

578
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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, and I'm chatting with him and everything,

579
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Speaker 2: and he's like, what were you doing. I was working

580
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 2: for the Eagles. I just started with the Steelers, you know.

581
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like, I'm doing a

582
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: show with Arthur Motes, you know former line. He was like, yeah,

583
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Speaker 2: I love Arthur. He's a great guy.

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Speaker 4: You know.

585
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Speaker 2: I see him from time to time. And I was like, well,

586
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: you should. I was like, if you're ever out of

587
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: the trobe, you should. We'd love him. We'd love to

588
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: have him up on the show. And he kind of

589
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: looks at me. He puts his puts his arm on

590
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: my shoulder and he goes, Wes, he goes back in

591
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: my day, training camp was eight weeks long, and he goes,

592
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: and he goes, I played for the Steelers for eleven years.

593
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: So he goes, if you do the math on that,

594
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Speaker 2: I spent about eighty eight weeks of my life on

595
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: those fields. And he's like, I'm not going back. You

596
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: will not see you will not see me there at Latrobe.

597
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: But I've had my fill, which is always funny because

598
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: some of those former guys they love going back, Like

599
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: we see Rocky Blier every year and Randy Grossman every year.

600
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: Some of these other guys, they're like, you couldn't pay

601
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Speaker 2: me to have me go back.

602
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Speaker 3: Tony says.

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Speaker 2: So awesome stuff with Jack Ham. A couple of those

604
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Speaker 2: couple of those things that he said there that I

605
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Speaker 2: want to dig into a little bit more. We'll do

606
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Speaker 2: that when we return to close down the first hour

607
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Speaker 2: of the show. We'll also start getting to some of

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Speaker 2: your tweets here, Bob and weaven throughout the day, and

609
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Speaker 2: we will have our weekly mock draft in our number two,

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Speaker 2: so plenty more to get to as we roll along

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Speaker 2: West Juler, Matt Williamson. It is the Drive Steelers Nation

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Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 5: What's up, NFL fans? The NFL Draft is finally here,

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Speaker 5: drafting this year, you do know your watch party's number

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Speaker 5: one pick. Bud Light, the clean, crisp taste that has

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Speaker 2: Well, Matt, this is this is lining up to be

625
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Speaker 2: a Friday for the book so far. Yeah. Yeah, a

626
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Speaker 2: lot of fun with Jack Ham there. We got a

627
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Speaker 2: nice little Brit Floyd concert here in our iHeart Studios earlier.

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Speaker 2: The weather's starting to change where I think now, thirty

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Speaker 2: four days away from the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So that was a lot of fun. Thanks again to

632
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Speaker 2: Jack for having us. It's a it's not every day,

633
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Speaker 2: Matt that you get. I was just looking in our

634
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Speaker 2: break here. I was looking at his Wikipedia page, like

635
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Speaker 2: we all know, he's a legendary, he's a Hall of Famer,

636
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Speaker 2: he's a four time super Bowl champion. But it's the credentials.

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Speaker 2: The resume is insane. Four time super Bowl champion, yes,

638
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Speaker 2: Eight time All Pro six of those, six of those

639
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: first team yes. So four super Bowl rings, eight all pros,

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Speaker 2: six of them first teams, eight Pro Bowls. NFL's nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventies All Decade Team, NFL seventy fifth Anniversary Team, NFL's

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Speaker 2: one hundredth Anniversary Team, Steelers All Time Team, Steelers Hall

643
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Speaker 2: of Honor, Pro Football Hall of Fame, College Football Hall

644
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Speaker 2: of Fame, Consensus All American.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And in nineteen ninety nine was named by The Sporting

647
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Speaker 2: News as one of the greatest fifty player fifty football

648
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Speaker 2: players of all time at the turn of the twentieth century.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you none of that surprises me.

650
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Speaker 2: And you talk about this all the time, and Jack

651
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Speaker 2: or Jack Ham part of me, I don't think he

652
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: does because he doesn't need to. Bob Labriola talks about

653
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: this all the time. I've told you, my grandfather used

654
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: to talk about this all the time. You know, you

655
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: mentioned to him how underrated Ernie Holmes was. Yeah, and yeah,

656
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: I think there's you know, you could probably say the

657
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: same thing about L. C. Greenwood and some of the

658
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: other guys on that defense. But maybe even Jack, despite

659
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: that resume that I just read off, still underrated in

660
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: the pantheon of Steelers and linebacking greatness.

661
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe even in terms of just off the

662
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: ball linebackers that have ever walked the earth. I'm not

663
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: talking about like Lawrence Taylor he was called a linebacker

664
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: at the time, or you know those guys. But I

665
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: think there is a strong argument that he's at least

666
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: as good as anyone that's ever done it. I mean,

667
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: I'm going back to butck Gus or Ray Lewis or

668
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: some of those guys that were louder more. Yeah, like

669
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: Lambert was a bigger personality on the field. Personality, Yeah, yeah, right,

670
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: Not that Jack is lacking personality. We just listened to him. Obviously,

671
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: he's smart and articulate and all that, but it's not

672
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: as easy to notice on the filing tea right role.

673
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: And the screaming and yelling and hooting and hollering.

674
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lewis and but Gus and Singletary and those type

675
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: of dudes, I mean, those old school middle linebackers.

676
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: You know, just an incredible career, an incredible guy, as

677
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: you bet, just seventy seven years old and still sharp

678
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: as attack man. You say, he's a really good golfer,

679
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: really good golfer, and you know, him and my dad

680
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: go back and forth from who takes whose money. But

681
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: he's about fifteen years older than my dad, and my

682
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: dad's a pretty good golfer, so that that to me

683
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: is at least impressive. Yeah, he's been he's been the

684
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: Penn State color commentator analyst on their broadcast since two

685
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: thousand long, so you know, twenty five seasons for him

686
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: in the books. He actually is. In twenty fourteen, Penn

687
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: State did a mount Rushmore of Penn State football and

688
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: he was one of the guys that was named to it.

689
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: So obvious, that's a pretty that's as impressive as anything

690
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: he's rattled off. To be honest, Hey, you know, I'm

691
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: not the biggest Penn State fan, but that's a pretty

692
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: strong group.

693
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: It sure is. And has had himself in an outstanding

694
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: radio career and you can kind of hear, you know,

695
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: you can hear that and just how articulate and how detailed.

696
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: And I knew we could ask him about any of

697
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: those Penn State guys.

698
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: Definitely the individual players, and he would and he would.

699
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: Be dialed in, and man, I I just I loved

700
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 2: even more so. Now we were already intrigued by by

701
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: Venga Yoana, but I didn't really know much of that.

702
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: Like they move him around, they and do some strange

703
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: stuff with him, and that makes me even more intrigued.

704
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: They really weaponized him. They'd like put him in motion

705
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: and almost like a lead blocking fullback and run behind him,

706
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: and you know, specialty situations and all kinds of stuff

707
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 3: like that they just don't see from guards. Like Jack said,

708
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: you know, pretty cool. May Peep were sited about Brisker too.

709
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: It makes me very excited about Brisker. Had a lot

710
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: of good things to say about him. Liked how he

711
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: referenced Joey Porter Junior really taking off right as it

712
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: was time to get his next contract. He knows how

713
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: that works as a former player. I liked what he

714
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: said about ZAKEI Wheatley. I still think you can be

715
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 2: in the mix. You can push safety down the priority board.

716
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: It feels like a little bit further. But you and

717
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: I would still be surprised if the Steelers didn't draft one.

718
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: Right, it's a good safety draft that he might be

719
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 3: the one.

720
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe not with their tenth or eleventh

721
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: or twelfth pick, you know, maybe not one of their

722
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: first couple picks, but he could certainly be in the mix.

723
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: And then the running backs too, and just kind of

724
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: even bigger picture. Maybe that's something we haven't discussed in

725
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: Like I know we've mentioned a few times that you

726
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: not just handing RB three to Caleb Johnson in training camp.

727
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: I bet they draft on the more I think, and

728
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: the more that you were kind of when you brought

729
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 2: that up, and I started thinking about that too, either

730
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: one of those Penn State guys or obviously plenty of

731
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: other names that we can discuss at a later time, but.

732
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: That day three I'm talking about, right, I don't know

733
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: if the ben State guys will fit the ball or not.

734
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: It feels like a sneakier priority then maybe we've discussed

735
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: to this point. I agree you were pretty lucky in

736
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: the health department in that running back room last year.

737
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: That's a great point not to mention one of those guys.

738
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 3: You know, maybe the guy you draft is also your

739
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: kickoff returner, which is more important than ever, you know.

740
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: You know, so I I could see a sixth round

741
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 3: running back in the mix something like that, maybe even fifth,

742
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 3: you know.

743
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: Would you is there a specific body type you'd be

744
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: looking for now with what you have in that running

745
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: back Roomny, just just best just give me best player available.

746
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: Somebody with return skills. Yeah, yes, not really a plotter

747
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: type we would certainly be of interest. I always lean

748
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: towards the big guys, but speed would be important, you know,

749
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: just because I think creating big plays is gonna always

750
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: be a priority. And it's not the fastest backfield out

751
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: there at the moment, you know. But they could go

752
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 3: any direction. They can go for a little guy, they

753
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: could go for a big guy. They could all fit in.

754
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: They could all.

755
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: Right.

756
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: Last thing here before we before we turn the page,

757
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: Bob Seeker, just getting all the music references in today.

758
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: Jack jack Ham's from Johnstown, Pennsylvania. Oh yeah, obviously Johnstown

759
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: War Memorial. There where the movie Slap Shot with Paul Newman,

760
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: famous famous comedy caology.

761
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: Upj We knew everyone knew Jack Ammer was from john Styn.

762
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: I wonder how much Jack knows about slap Shot and

763
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: Paul Newman and all that. He's Actually he's a he's

764
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: a minority owner of the Johnstown Tomahawks since twenty thirteen.

765
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: So this dude just does everything.

766
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: There's a lot going on, yeah, college football, pro football, golf, announcing.

767
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: Announcing junior hockey. He's just all over the place. But

768
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: that was a lot of fun, and thanks to him

769
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: for doing that. Matt, we will get into mock draft

770
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: our on the other side when we return. Maybe we'll

771
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: see if we end up with any of those Penn

772
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: State guys that we mentioned. Before we get there, though,

773
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: we continue to just be and I mean this in

774
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: a good way, bombarded with a bunch of tweets from

775
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: from you good people, really good And so we got

776
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: a couple extra minutes here before we close down this segment.

777
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: Why don't we why don't we get one or two

778
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: of these in before we before we get to our

779
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: number two? And you know what this one actually, bridge

780
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Burner tweeted us this morning and this kind of falls

781
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: in line with what you were just talking about. I

782
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: don't think we have a good enough punt return bridge

783
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: Burner says, don't think we have a good enough punt

784
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: returner kick returner on the roster. How do you evaluate

785
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: that with your late round picks? Would you consider someone

786
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: like Lorenzo Styles, Sunny Styles brother from Ohio State. If

787
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: you look at his numbers from the combine and what

788
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: he did as a kick returner at Ohio State, he

789
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: thinks he fits that bill and bonus, he's a safety

790
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: and might be able to contribute there too.

791
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he also ran unbelievably fast forwardy four to two seven. Now,

792
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't know how good of a

793
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 3: returner he is, or frankly, hardly anyone in this class

794
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: is all in all. And I think there's also a

795
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: misnomer that your punp returner is going to be a

796
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 3: kickoff returner. Well, probably not. I mean, the pop returner

797
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: is a lot more Austin ESK, where your kickoff returner

798
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: is a lot more like a Jaylen Warren or a

799
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: game or a tackle breaker.

800
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: You know, there's not many of the Dante Halls and

801
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: the Den Sisters who do both at a high level.

802
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, that might be two different situations. And the

803
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 3: pump returner usually comes from the wide receiver room, you know.

804
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: I mean maybe that's your I was gonna say, you

805
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: could kind of justify having one person on your active.

806
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: Roster for that role, but not too not that not

807
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: that that's the only thing that that's.

808
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: The only thing that you really have them active on game.

809
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: Because I'd really like to get Warren off of it same, Yeah.

810
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: To minimize Yeah, the on tires.

811
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: I don't think he needs to take any more hits

812
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: and frankly, he's if he if he was the best

813
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: one in the league at it, that'd be different. But

814
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: he's fine. You know. I don't think he's even a

815
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: particularly great kickoff returner, and he doesn't really have the

816
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: long speed to break the you know, ninety yarders from

817
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: that spot either, So maybe you'd look for a running

818
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: back as your kickoff returner. Can he do it? Is

819
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: he willing to learn? If he isn't, And that second

820
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 3: wide receiver you draft maybe has some legal to him,

821
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: smaller guy, you know, and there's the Kents of the world,

822
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: and you can find other dudes out there too, But

823
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: I'm glad he brings it up because it's it is

824
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: a need right now. I'm not sure who either return

825
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: guy would be if you dressed today, Probably Warren and Kent,

826
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure can make the team.

827
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's exactly right.

828
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: And I don't even know if Kent's good at it.

829
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first week or so of training camp, but

830
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: that's about it.

831
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: I mean, he was good college returner, pont returner. That

832
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 3: doesn't mean he's one of the best in the NFL.

833
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: No, it means he should probably have an opportunity to

834
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: put his hand in that pile in Latrob right.

835
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, but that's about it.

836
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: Let's see enough time for maybe one, maybe two more here,

837
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: let's see smooth Dave tweets and says, would you send

838
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: a second and third round pick to the Dolphins for

839
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: a Chaine? No? I would not. No, No, that's too

840
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 2: too many, really good player, but too much.

841
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: For Yeah, if he was, if he that's probably about

842
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: the going rate.

843
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, right, and if he was maybe twenty three,

844
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: I would yeah.

845
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: But and again, I just think that's not what you

846
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: need to use your resources on a running back, not

847
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: a day two right, not not to day two picks.

848
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that one. Sudesh tweets us

849
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: and says, Happy Friday friends. I don't have anything to

850
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: ask today other than what's on the weekend agenda. Matt's

851
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: going to a concert tonight.

852
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 3: I'm going to Britt Floyd tonight.

853
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: You're seeing Britt Floyd twice in one day?

854
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: About it?

855
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: A little private, little pack, A couple of times private

856
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: show here and then and then tonight. I you know

857
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: what this is. It's funny. Actually, I was talking about

858
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: this with my wife last night. Between now until the

859
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: end of May. This is like the only weekend that

860
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: we don't have something.

861
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: Planned that's actually kind of nice.

862
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: It's it's it's pretty nice.

863
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

864
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: And after particularly, you know, football season's a grind. I

865
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: travel a ton. We were not too long ago in

866
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: Indianapolis for the whole week. You and I are leaving

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Speaker 2: a week from tomorrow to go to to go to

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Speaker 2: Phoenix for four or five days.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And then and then April, we've got some travel plans

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Speaker 2: and some fun stuff happening. In May, we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: a WVU for a weekend because my sister graduates. We're

873
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: going to Florida for a week on vacation. So until

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Speaker 2: like the beginning of June. This is like the last

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Speaker 2: weekend that we don't have anything playing. So we were like,

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Speaker 2: let's just lay low, you know, maybe take the girls

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Speaker 2: out at some point and go somewhere.

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Speaker 3: But watch a movie or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, I might have to might have to stop.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the weather this weekend meant and this

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Speaker 2: is all it's always a big time. Whenever I can

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Speaker 2: pull the smoker back out of the ground, unpack the

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00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: smoker out of the garage from winter time that that

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Speaker 2: might be happening on Sunday. Your boy might have to

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Speaker 2: pick up some ribs or a pH or something to

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Speaker 2: uh to throw on the smoker this weekend. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: But that will do it for the first hour of

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Speaker 2: the show. Keep those tweets rolling, we will. We will

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Speaker 2: get to plenty more before we get up out of here.

891
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Speaker 2: But to kick off our number two. You all ask

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Speaker 2: for it all the time. You love it. We're going

893
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Speaker 2: to continue to do it. It will be our weekly

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Speaker 2: mock draft. We'll spend I would think at least two

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Speaker 2: segments going through let's do let's stick with the first

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Speaker 2: three rounds. That cool with you, because that still ends

897
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Speaker 2: up being five picks. I think that's still kind of

898
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Speaker 2: beefy enough there. So we will fire up those mock

899
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Speaker 2: draft simulators. It's Steeler Nation and football fans everywhere love

900
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Speaker 2: so much to kick off our number two. You know

901
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: where to get at us if you want to get

902
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Speaker 2: involved with the tweets. The last hour of the drive

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Speaker 2: of the week. On the other side, you alert Williamson

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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