WEBVTT - More Mutants!

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Hey then, everyone, and welcome to Forward Thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast that looks at the future and says I

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<v Speaker 1>got Kitty Pride and Nightcrawler to waiting there for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jonathan Strickland, I'm Lauren, and I'm Joe McCormick. And

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<v Speaker 1>today we're recording the second part of an episode that

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<v Speaker 1>was a listener request from listener Derek VROs, who asked

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<v Speaker 1>us to do a podcast about whether science and technology

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<v Speaker 1>could make us into characters from the X Men. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean through whatever means necessary. I guess, through genetic manipulation,

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<v Speaker 1>through uh, cybernetics, through just plain old power suits and

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<v Speaker 1>liquid nitrogen guns. How can we become Iceman, Magneto, Wolverine, Cyclops.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time, we already did the original X Men team,

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<v Speaker 1>And who did that include? It was Professor X, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the Professor X, Jean Gray, Scott summers At a Cyclops, Iceman,

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<v Speaker 1>the Beast Angel, and that's it. Did I name all five?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's it? Plus it was six toe right

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<v Speaker 1>because Professor X is one of them. Did you say

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<v Speaker 1>Jean Gray? Did say Jean Gray? Then We're good. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>the Beast? Did we name the Beast? What is wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with your brain? I don't know. Well, we've already talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the original team, but I had to admit last

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<v Speaker 1>time that I am a what did you call me, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fake geek girl. I said that, You're not

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<v Speaker 1>a fake geek girl. Okay, I'm not a fake geet girl,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am what you might say as a casual

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<v Speaker 1>X Men fan, which is which is fine. I was

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to hear that the famous Wolverine is not, in

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<v Speaker 1>fact one of the original X Men. Yeah, he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's uh a hanger on the pretender. Um, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a fake geek girl now as long as as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have to talk about Wolverine. So I figured

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<v Speaker 1>that justifies another podcast. Wolverine on his Own could be

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<v Speaker 1>an entire podcast, especially when you take into account all

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<v Speaker 1>the different iterations, because I like, by the time we're

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<v Speaker 1>recording this podcast, which is in November two thousand fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, as in the comic book world, Wolverine is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens to everyone. I mean, well, he's he's died

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<v Speaker 1>before too, so I don't expect that to be permanent.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's going to last very long. Though.

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<v Speaker 1>I read something online that I was thinking, surely this

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<v Speaker 1>can't be true. They said that, uh, he at one

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<v Speaker 1>point was brought back to life from a single drop

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<v Speaker 1>of his blood. And yes, it's pretty much the case.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how good is healing factor is? How would he

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<v Speaker 1>still have his memories and everything? You know? Maybe he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single cell in your body has your total in

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<v Speaker 1>a and it clearly his memories were somehow wrapped up

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<v Speaker 1>genetically and the rest of it. Uh, the guy's got

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<v Speaker 1>an adamantium. The listeners can't hear it. Look, I can

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<v Speaker 1>apologize for just about any sort of comic book crazy

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<v Speaker 1>plot you want. I don't necessarily believe what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can apologize for it. Okay, well, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and dive right in and start with with the

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<v Speaker 1>old wolverine himself. He's got what are his powers? He's

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<v Speaker 1>got super healing. That's that's a big one. His healing

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<v Speaker 1>factors was often In fact, super healing might might be

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<v Speaker 1>an understatement. It's like hyper healing. Yeah, he essentially he

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<v Speaker 1>can take damage that would kill any other creature ever,

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<v Speaker 1>and recover from it. Okay, He's got adamantium claws that

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<v Speaker 1>extend out of his knuckles. Technically, he has an entire

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<v Speaker 1>adamantium skeleton, which is not a mutant power. It was

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<v Speaker 1>added onto a skeleton. The fact that he had this

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<v Speaker 1>mutant healing power allowed him to survive the process. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so and so I think classically that's where that

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<v Speaker 1>the claws come in. He has bone claws that adamantium

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<v Speaker 1>has been bonded to. Okay, so the claws are part

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<v Speaker 1>of his mutant power that was not surgically added to him.

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<v Speaker 1>He has bone claws which when magnetos stripped away all

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<v Speaker 1>the adamantium from wolverine skeletal system. Uh, he's still retained

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<v Speaker 1>the clause, but now they were just Yeah. He also

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<v Speaker 1>has adamantium chest hair, doesn't he Oh yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a brillo pad. Yeah, that's in fact where

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<v Speaker 1>Billow came from. In fact, the harvested from him. And

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<v Speaker 1>he goes into the factory once a week and they

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<v Speaker 1>need to clean the school for gifted humans. They just

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<v Speaker 1>put him face down on the floor, push him back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth across the floor. He doesn't get his back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine, he'll, he'll, he's um, he's he's lost a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of dignity over the years. Okay, well, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like the sorry logan, I'm sorry fiction. The essential, the

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<v Speaker 1>essential wolverine power I think we've got to start with

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<v Speaker 1>is the healing. Sure. Is there a way that we

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<v Speaker 1>know of to create hyper healing in humans? Well, not know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean there's there's a lot of work going

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<v Speaker 1>in obviously to try and find ways to help people

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<v Speaker 1>heal from injury and illness more effectively. Right, And there

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<v Speaker 1>are some interesting frontiers at sort of the edges of

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<v Speaker 1>healing science about what we could do in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Because here's one example of the limitations of human healing.

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<v Speaker 1>Humans cannot regrow lost limbs. Right, so you you get

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<v Speaker 1>a little cut in your hand, Well, over time, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>that'll close up and and you'll get some scar tissue maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but it'll your skin will cover the wound. If you

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<v Speaker 1>cut your hand off, you're not going to get another

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<v Speaker 1>one back. It's gone. You might causeplay as as Captain

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<v Speaker 1>Hook for the rest of your life, right, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do, not am. Not all animals are

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<v Speaker 1>like this, Like, for example, some salamanders, you know, can

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<v Speaker 1>regrow lost limbs. You cut off a limb and it

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<v Speaker 1>will completely reconstruct itself stars. Yeah, and the blueprints are there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so you have the coding information inside your

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<v Speaker 1>body to make new copies of all the parts you have.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to have that information because it was with

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<v Speaker 1>you when you were in embryo, when you were making

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<v Speaker 1>those parts to begin with. But we've got something that

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<v Speaker 1>happens in our bodies that prevents us from regrowing lost

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<v Speaker 1>limbs once we're an adult. Is there a way that

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<v Speaker 1>we can access through medical science those pathways to re

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<v Speaker 1>uh to to sort of give ourselves healing powers that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't natural to humans as adults. Well, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of research going into that very thing. In

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<v Speaker 1>fact um, there's there used to be a belief that

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<v Speaker 1>once you've got to a certain level of complexity with

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<v Speaker 1>a biological organism, that is what was the limiting factor,

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<v Speaker 1>that somehow, if you've got complex enough, then you would

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<v Speaker 1>no longer be able to regrow a lost limb. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like system overload. There's too many things going on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the dominant thinking for a long time. It

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<v Speaker 1>now seems like that is no longer the dominant thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that there are. There's a kind of a sea change

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<v Speaker 1>in that um and there's been a lot of interesting work, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>interesting work that has dealt with some experiments that are

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<v Speaker 1>fairly gruesome. I mean when you when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it from especially if you if you love animals like mice,

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<v Speaker 1>this might be difficult to hear, but the Tough University

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<v Speaker 1>Center for Regenerative Medicine and Developmental Biology is looking at

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<v Speaker 1>ways to boost regenerative powers, mostly through the interaction of

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<v Speaker 1>cells using electrical charge and how they commune kate in

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<v Speaker 1>a way to try and stimulate growth um in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that normally wouldn't happen in organisms like us. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way they've tested it is largely by taking things

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<v Speaker 1>like a mice and cutting toes off of them and

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<v Speaker 1>then trying to stimulate that. They also looked at activating

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<v Speaker 1>a gene called lynn A l i N two eight

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<v Speaker 1>A to help regrow lost bits like toes, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>actually been successful with that. They were looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>only after they had already been exploring that particular gene

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<v Speaker 1>through cancer research. It was one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>they discovered something and thought it was interesting, and now

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<v Speaker 1>there might be a different application. Cool. So obviously we're

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<v Speaker 1>not there yet for humans, but I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>some reason to believe it's possible that in the future

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<v Speaker 1>medical science could allow us to have regenerative powers that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have today. Yeah, I think in the foreseeable

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<v Speaker 1>future it'll be very limited. It will be things injuries

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<v Speaker 1>that are still not um incredibly severe. I imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>the more severe the injury, the harder it will be

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<v Speaker 1>to truly regenerate, uh in kind of tissue like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but it's it's promising, and I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>this research ends up finding its way into medical practices where,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the future, maybe twenty years or so

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, people who have suffered injuries can have

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<v Speaker 1>a much better prognosis or even with the combination, I

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<v Speaker 1>could see potentially the combination of something like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a three D printed bone and and you know, various

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<v Speaker 1>various other implants could could help you technologically bond better

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<v Speaker 1>with a prosthesis. Yeah, clearly this would be something we'd

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<v Speaker 1>want to be really careful about because anytime you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about stimulating cell growth, there are a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>questions that come up. That's like, how do you make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that that's a controlled growth for example? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's another thing I was hearing about in sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the future of of healing technology, and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little electrical implant that DARPA was working on. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>have any relevance to this UM? Not really, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is really fascinating, and I guess Okay, let let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me explain what this is. Okay. So you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of nerves throughout your body that are monitoring

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<v Speaker 1>all of your systems and sending alerts back to your

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<v Speaker 1>brain whenever there's something wrong, and and that alert might

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<v Speaker 1>be sudden tissue damage, activate pain, and motor functions, which

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<v Speaker 1>is how we can pull our hand back very quickly

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<v Speaker 1>from a too hot surface. UM. And it's also how

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<v Speaker 1>your body knows to send the resources to that hand

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<v Speaker 1>to start healing over the burn. UM. It might also

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<v Speaker 1>be something like foreign substance detected, Active and immune system UM,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really rad in general. It lets it lets

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<v Speaker 1>you uh fight off infections right. UM. However, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got an overactive nervous system or an over active immune response,

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<v Speaker 1>that is not so rad. UM. That kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>can lead to your your body misdiagnosing a problem when

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't one, which can cause all kinds of trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>like like your immune system can start attacking healthy tissues

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<v Speaker 1>in your joints, which is what goes on in arthritis.

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<v Speaker 1>So darpest idea is to implant like nerve thread sized

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<v Speaker 1>devices to attach to your nerves that will regulate your

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<v Speaker 1>nerve impulses, thus helping your immune system be more accurate. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the technology is not existent yet. This is all very

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<v Speaker 1>much in the research phase. That the program is called

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<v Speaker 1>Electrical Prescriptions or elect r X, which is which is

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<v Speaker 1>very cute. Yeah. Um, partially because they're hoping to reduce

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<v Speaker 1>our dependency on medications, which can have all of these

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<v Speaker 1>unpredictable and unpleasant interactions with your other bodily systems. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>the more medications you have, the more likely you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have complications. That sounds that could have be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the It could be one of the less beloved X men,

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<v Speaker 1>the one you write just specifically to kill that character,

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<v Speaker 1>often fake moment of sincere grief among your characters because

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<v Speaker 1>all the others are far too valuable merchandise wise for

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<v Speaker 1>you to kill. Off, you died for our development. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but so that sounds really interesting, But so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a recipe for hyper healing. Yeah, it's more

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<v Speaker 1>aimed towards restoring regular healing. I think the best you

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly get out of this therapy is optimum healing

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<v Speaker 1>given your body's current resources. Um though, I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>certainly is interesting, like we've been saying, and the modulation

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<v Speaker 1>of individual nerves is so potentially huge. I mean, imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if we could control our body's stress responses, like the

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<v Speaker 1>impact that that would have on mental health therapies. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>or I mean, if you can control the body's response

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<v Speaker 1>to pain, that could be a big thing. Like pain

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<v Speaker 1>is useful if you need you touch a hot stove,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you need to. But we have more pain

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<v Speaker 1>than we need is a species? Sure, you could have

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<v Speaker 1>chronic pain as as a result of something that you

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<v Speaker 1>have literally no control over. It's not doing you any

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<v Speaker 1>good anymore. Yeah. Yeah, And there's a host of of

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<v Speaker 1>related things to to stuff like arthritis, like uh, inflammatory

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<v Speaker 1>bowel syndrome or fibromyalgia that could also have huge impact

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<v Speaker 1>from this kind of research. Cool. Well, okay, so then

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<v Speaker 1>are there any technological routes we actually know of right

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<v Speaker 1>now that could accelerate human healing. Well, there's some that

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking into that haven't necessarily panned out definitively. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the big ones that I know of is using

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<v Speaker 1>ultrasonic frequencies to help try and UH and facilitate bones

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<v Speaker 1>knitting together after you've broken a bone. So you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>remember we talked a little bit about a three D

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<v Speaker 1>printed cast where it has that kind of look almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a fish net kind of a pattern. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason for that fish net pattern, there are a few

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<v Speaker 1>of them. One is to allow you to have a

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<v Speaker 1>cast that's not all gammy and exactly that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But another was the idea of using it to give

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<v Speaker 1>access to doctors to put UH transmitters, ultrasonic transmitters up

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<v Speaker 1>against your skin so that you could have those ultrasonic

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<v Speaker 1>frequencies stimulate your bones so they knit more quickly. It

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to facilitate that. However, that being said, there

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<v Speaker 1>have been several studies with conflicting results about whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not this actual process is helpful or if it's no

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<v Speaker 1>different from healing without the use of ultrasonic frequencies. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's still questionable as to whether or not this is

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<v Speaker 1>really useful, and if it is useful, it might be negligible.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, it may be useful to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where the cost of of getting the treatment is not

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<v Speaker 1>really you know, and it's not justified, Like the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of the healing isn't so great as to justify that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of expense when you could be using that equipment

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<v Speaker 1>for something else. So there's still some question about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's an example of using technology to try and

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<v Speaker 1>help people heal more rapidly than they otherwise would. But

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't look like we have anything on the table

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<v Speaker 1>right now that's going to get us anywhere near. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Wolverine is kind of like, oh, I got shot thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds ago, and now I'm okay, yeah the Hollywood, Uh

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<v Speaker 1>I got shot, But I am still fully capable of

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<v Speaker 1>carrying out my part in this plot until I am

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<v Speaker 1>no longer relevant. That doesn't work so much. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably never is when that will happen. I'm I'm guessing never.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to maintain my relevance as much as possible

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<v Speaker 1>just in case it ever does kick in, so that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't get rid of me too quickly. I think

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<v Speaker 1>shielding is going to be the more important tech technological

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<v Speaker 1>system there, but that's probably a whole other episode. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So the realistic future, sman, if we can believe that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they will get this regenerative power going, is that

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<v Speaker 1>you have a superhero who can run into the enemy base,

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<v Speaker 1>get her arm cut off in the midst of a fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and then retreat and then grow a new arm in

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<v Speaker 1>some months. Maybe maybe what we're thinking, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's kind of the hope, the ultimate hope is

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, no, and it sound it does

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<v Speaker 1>sound incredibly silly, but but how how incredible would it

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<v Speaker 1>be to to have victims of industrial accidents or car

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<v Speaker 1>accidents or military accidents to be able to regain I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's hard for us, being h you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more or less able bodied humans, to imagine how completely

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<v Speaker 1>life destructive that would be. Yeah. Sure, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about it as real medical potential, that's totally

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<v Speaker 1>different thing. But is it a superpower? Comparing comparing it

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<v Speaker 1>to Wolverine's healing factor, it would be you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like can I lift five hundred pounds? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>not all at once, but if you give me enough time,

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<v Speaker 1>I can lift the equivalent of five hundred pounds. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly a superpower. That's just a normal power. So

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<v Speaker 1>the question is can we get this accelerated healing as

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<v Speaker 1>a normal power. It's still not going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>crazy thing we see with Wolverine where practically instantaneously he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to heal, you know, at least superficial wounds. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you trying to arm wrestle me, Jonathan, No, I would

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<v Speaker 1>never try to arm wrestle you. Okay, okay, let's move

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<v Speaker 1>on to the next thing. Adamantium skeleton. Well, obviously this

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<v Speaker 1>is a no go because if if you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>wolverine healing, you can't have an adamantium skeleton skeleton. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think adamantium exists. I was about to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to invent adamantium first. I would want

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<v Speaker 1>vibranium anyway. Well, but is there anything like this? Can

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<v Speaker 1>we reinforce the human skeleton? Well, we actually have some

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<v Speaker 1>examples of grafting other materials onto bone structure. UM. With

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<v Speaker 1>some bone fracture, surgeons can choose is to perform a

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<v Speaker 1>bone graft, uh, which would mean taking bone from you

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<v Speaker 1>and replacing another part of your bone structure. But they

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<v Speaker 1>could also do something that's called a zeno graft, which

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<v Speaker 1>means they would actually take material from a totally different species,

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<v Speaker 1>like coral. Now, coral is biocompatible with human tissue. However,

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<v Speaker 1>coral normally would not be strong enough support human weight

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<v Speaker 1>or human stresses. So you couldn't just replace a bone

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<v Speaker 1>with coral and expected to be work, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>work the way your bone used to work. But you

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<v Speaker 1>can process that coral so that's strong enough to withstand

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<v Speaker 1>the same stress as that a typical human bone would.

0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.919
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and so we there's actually, in fact, my

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<v Speaker 1>wife knew a teacher who had this done with an eye. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, had an eye surgically implanted. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>coral I. So it was it was permanently fixed into

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<v Speaker 1>his orbital bone. Yeah, she's got some great stories about

0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.679
<v Speaker 1>this guy, like the time his his glass eye before

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<v Speaker 1>he got the coral implant popped out of a basketball

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<v Speaker 1>game and caused hilarity to ensue. She's got some great

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<v Speaker 1>stories about uh and any rate. Uh. We also have

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of examples of surgeons using metal plates and screws

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<v Speaker 1>and bolts and things in order to help n help

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<v Speaker 1>hold bones together, probably so they knit together. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a case of helping bones heal. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a case of reinforcing the bones or replacing them. And

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<v Speaker 1>and no, ideally you remove those pieces as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>the bones are healthy. Right well, And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up another concern, which is that the bones in

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<v Speaker 1>your body are not just like rocks in there. They're

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<v Speaker 1>they're dynamic, living tissues that do things within your body.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, your bones have marrow in them that I

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<v Speaker 1>believe they manufacture red blood cells right, and bones cells

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<v Speaker 1>themselves are created and destroyed in a natural process throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the body. There that you know, the bone creation cells

0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and the bone destruction cells, the osteoblasts and the osteoclast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just like you could stick any hard substance

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<v Speaker 1>in your body where the bone should be and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be good to go. Yeah, right right, And you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>really want to entirely coat your bone and anything, even

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<v Speaker 1>if that were possible from a from a physiological standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, your your bones are doing stuff. Um, they're

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<v Speaker 1>interacting with other cells in your body and other substances

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<v Speaker 1>and so if if you coated them, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>like wrapping plastic wrap around your hand permanently um, which

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't really be too much fun. Not to mention the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that if you were truly coding every every surface

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<v Speaker 1>of your bones with something else, you would have to

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<v Speaker 1>at some point remove tendons from the bones, like you

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<v Speaker 1>would have to essentially detach all the muscles then reattach

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<v Speaker 1>all the muscles to get every surface of the bone

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<v Speaker 1>coated with this stuff. So it's it's it's problematic. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a good plan. I think I think that this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I I do think that it's potentially possible. Again, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see in some of the prosthetic research that's being done,

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<v Speaker 1>and and even in some of the three D printing

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<v Speaker 1>bone kind of research that's being done. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible to maybe enforce our bones with stronger stuff. Maybe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So this this one is at least for if we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about superpowers. I don't think anyone's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a full skeleton upgrade anytime soon. I hope not, especially

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<v Speaker 1>without factor. Okay, well, what about the marquee event the clause?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, first of all, it's totally possible, but it

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<v Speaker 1>won't make this nick sound. That's the problem is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's well, then what's the point while that's at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the claw? Okay, no, all right, when you

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<v Speaker 1>when we're being serious here about installing clause clearly anything

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<v Speaker 1>that would allow us to be able to extend and

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<v Speaker 1>retract them. You guys are sorry. Just an image of

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this has been done before, this joke has

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<v Speaker 1>happened somewhere in the comics, but of of Wolverine working

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<v Speaker 1>in a kitchen somewhere, like being the line cook, chopping

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<v Speaker 1>all the vegetables, and it's just basically ramming his knuckles

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<v Speaker 1>up and down on the table. You know, for a Canadian,

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<v Speaker 1>he's really not that polite at any rate. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the clause being able to have claws installed in your

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<v Speaker 1>arms somewhat tricky, I would imagine, you know, well, anytime

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<v Speaker 1>that you're changing your muscular skeletal system. Yeah, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what about just some attachable clause. Yeah, that that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>been done. There's a guy named Colin Furs or Furs,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a YouTube personality, and he builds crazy stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like not just stuff that relates back to superheroes, but

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of bonkers stuff, and he created retractable wolverine

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<v Speaker 1>claws that are powered by an air compressor. So he

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<v Speaker 1>actually has to wear a big backpack in order to

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<v Speaker 1>have these work. And then he has tubes that go

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<v Speaker 1>from the backpack to the um to the two clause

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<v Speaker 1>systems that are worn on the backs of his forearms. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so he straps these things onto the backs of his arms.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a trigger. Pushing the trigger releases the air

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<v Speaker 1>pressure that allows the clause to extend. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>second trigger or release or whatever where it cuts off

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<v Speaker 1>that supply of the clause retract So I guess they're

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<v Speaker 1>on a spring system. He doesn't actually show how he

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<v Speaker 1>built it. He just demonstrates them working, and he cackles

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, as he should. If I had working retractable

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<v Speaker 1>wolverine claws trapped to my arms, I would not stop

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<v Speaker 1>cackling for days. You already cackle a decent amat and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even have grads. This is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>There'd be at least a two increase in cackling on

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<v Speaker 1>my part. So anyway, Science his his YouTube videos are amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>So this one in particular, he shows off how he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to extend them and retract them. H And he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to do that repeatedly until he's run out of

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<v Speaker 1>compressed air, in which case he has to essentially refill

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<v Speaker 1>the tank in his backpack. So it's not a lightweight solution.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not something that you would wear all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>It I'm sure it's it's rather heavy, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>an effective demonstration of a technological approach to the same

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing that Wolverine can quote unquote do naturally

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<v Speaker 1>in the comics. Can he like cut a humby in

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<v Speaker 1>half with him and stuff? He did not do it

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<v Speaker 1>in the video. I am going to guess that he

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<v Speaker 1>does not have the arms strength for that, even if

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<v Speaker 1>the claws themselves were somehow sharp enough and could remain

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<v Speaker 1>sharp enough to do that. Uh he also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta keep in mind this is also very different

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<v Speaker 1>from having claws embedded in the arm that can extend

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<v Speaker 1>out from the skin the way it's depicted, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in the film versions. The claws break the skin every

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<v Speaker 1>time he extends them. Oh yeah, well, this is where

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<v Speaker 1>his super healing capacity also comes in, because it breaks

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<v Speaker 1>and heals up every time he does it. It's pretty painful,

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 1>but he says it hurts every time. That's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the does it does that hurt every time almost every time,

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<v Speaker 1>And then the times it feels pretty good and they

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<v Speaker 1>start they start singing from lame is. That's a weird

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>guy anyway. But that I don't know why that would

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily be because I don't think this supplies to wolverines.

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>But some animals have claws that are retractable. Not retractable

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<v Speaker 1>pro tract dial is the word for for that biological mechanism.

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<v Speaker 1>You've probably seen it in cats. There's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>families of mammals that have them. Um, there's a muscle

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<v Speaker 1>group that allows these these types of critters to to

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<v Speaker 1>push out their fancy pokey toenails just when they want

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<v Speaker 1>to use them, which also lets them keep them hidden

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<v Speaker 1>in a fold of skin the rest of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>which reduces wear and tear to the claw and also

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<v Speaker 1>lets them move more quickly and quietly in certain situations. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So these are not retracting fully within the biological system.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like they're they're not breaking the skin every time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They're just hidden by a fold of skin and then

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<v Speaker 1>can protract out from that fold, right, But like dogs

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<v Speaker 1>can't do this. I mean, if your dog hasn't trimmed

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<v Speaker 1>the toe nails in a while, he's doing a little

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<v Speaker 1>tap dance on the kitchen floor. Yes, yeah, that that's

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<v Speaker 1>why cats generally don't tap dance a lot of many

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<v Speaker 1>other reasons. But they do amazing choreography they do. It's

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>all very new vau though. Um rum tum tugger is amazing.

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm gonna say. All musical references in this

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>episode and installing this in humans though as we've we've

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of danced around before, no pun intended. Um would

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.239
<v Speaker 1>be would be real messy. Um, we have to have

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like first of all, if you're going with a protractile method,

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.879
<v Speaker 1>even then you have to change our physiology. You have

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to create those folds of skin that things could exist within.

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>They would not nearly be the length of wolverine's claws. No, no,

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And you need to change the bone structure and them

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and the muscle structure around it. It would that would

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I want to even I'm getting real

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>grossed out just thinking about it. Right. Plus, I mean,

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>as we sort of alluded to earlier, without the magic metal,

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>without the magic healing, this system doesn't even really sound

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 1>like something you'd want. It sort of only makes sense

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 1>if you already start with the other magic assumptions exactly.

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>The one thing, if you're talking about breaking the skin

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>every time, you're talking about also inviting infection constantly, right

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>like you're you're talking about opening a wound every time

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 1>you want to extend these claws. I also don't really understand,

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like I've never seen any artists illustration of how the

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>inside of Logan's arm is supposed to look, because you

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>imagine that the clause in order for them to extend

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>out from the forearm through the between the knuckles, essentially

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>it's depicted or just above the knuckles nanobots. Yeah, you wonder,

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>because they would have to retract far enough for him

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>to still be able to bend his wrists, right, So

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't. They couldn't point, They couldn't just be in

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>his hand, the points in his hand, because then he

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to flex his wrists at all. He's

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.479
<v Speaker 1>got pretty beefy arms, though, I think that there's clearly

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>some kind of pockets. He can't bend his wrists anyway inside. Yeah,

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen him bend his wrists? There's so

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>many jokes, but nobody I think. I think we need

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>to move on from Wolverine real quick. Before we do,

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I did want to mention that that the two groups

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of mammals that have these these pro tractile claws are

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>our cats, but both house cats and large cats and

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>also civets. Wolverines definitely don't have this thing. So I

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>think that we should lobby for a name change. He

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>should be the civet. He could also make amazing coffee.

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not going to tell you how. Let's move on, Yes,

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>let us move on on that note. Next one Night

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Crawler Kurt Kurt Wagner. He's uh what a character man.

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>He's sweet right, Yeah, he was a former Roman Catholic

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>priest in the comics as well, and um a, his

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>his abilities are pretty He's one of those extra bunch.

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>He's one of those ex men that has a bunch

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>of different abilities. Of course, he's the one if you've

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>seen the movies. In the second film he appears, he's

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the blue one with the tail played by Alan Cumming.

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Boy more musical references. I can make more of them now. Yeah, Yeah,

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of upset that they didn't just do a

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>few musical bits on set of at least they haven't

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>released footage of it. Right where Wolverine and Nightcrawlers start

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>singing duets, It would be phenomenal. Yeah, but you're you're

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the wrong era of musicals there. You have to get

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>much more melodramatic and sad. But uh, yeah. So some

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>of Nightcrawlers abilities are ones that we've already talked about

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>on this show. Well, one of the main ones obviously

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>is teleportation. Yeah, okay, now that one. Let's save that

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>one for last though. Okay, okay, let's say that one

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.479
<v Speaker 1>for last. Let's talk about First of all, he's got

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the ability to kind of be sort of invisible. If

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>he's in the shadows, he can kind of fade in

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>with them. He can't do it in broad daylight, but

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>in the shadows he can fade back enough for him

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>to be effectively invisible. And we've talked about invisibility several

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>times on Forward Thinking. Yeah, we did a podcast where

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>we talked about, in fact, a bunch of different ways

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of becoming invisible through technology. There, of course, the meta

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>material methods we've talked about, though those we don't know

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>if that will ever be applicable on the visual spectrum

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>or covering enough of the visual spectrum to really make

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>something truly invisible, but they are already showing promise on

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the microwave spectrum for sort of narrow bands of frequencies.

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>So of course, meta materials are these sort of tiny

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.479
<v Speaker 1>structures that are synthetic, They don't exist in nature, and

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 1>they can manipulate the way electromagnet the fields bend around them. Right, right,

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>So even if we were to develop a really awesome

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>meta material type that could cover the whole visible spectrum,

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no guarantee that we would be able to make

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>it movable, right, It may end up being something that. Sure,

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>it's effective if you want to, i don't know, hide

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.959
<v Speaker 1>the existence of a building away from the the world,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>but it may not work for something that's going to

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:26.959
<v Speaker 1>be jumping around all over the place. Sure, But we

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>also talked about active camouflage. That kind of seems more

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>reasonable to me for how a creature might not become

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>completely invisible but could pretty well hide, especially in dark conditions,

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>And lots of animals already have this power, So like

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>an octopus can easily blend in with with its surroundings

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>by projecting different colors on its skin to match the

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>patterns of the surface where it's hiding. Yeah, it would

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>need to have Again, you would have to have a

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>suit that could completely cover you so that you're you're

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>not you know, if your hands in head and are revealed,

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>then it might say like, that's weird that there's a

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>disembodied pair of hands and a head moving around and

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't see anything else attached to it. So that

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>would also be maybe possible in the future with the

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>right technology. Again, you'd have to be totally covered. One

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of the active camouflage methods we mentioned in our episode

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>on invisibility tech was the flexible optoelectric camouflage skin and

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>this was done by uh there was a paper on

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 1>it earlier this year. I think it was August by

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>researchers at the University of Houston and the University of Illinois,

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:41.959
<v Speaker 1>and they published paper called Adaptive Optoelectric Camouflage Systems with

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>designs inspired by cephalopod skins. So this was creating multi

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>layered flat surfaces that could mimic the patterns underneath them

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>to the viewers above sort of like a cephalopod skin

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>would and if you can imagine creating sort of a

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>suit out of the skin, probably make you flawlessly invisible,

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.719
<v Speaker 1>but could be pretty useful active camouflage for whatever kind

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>of surroundings you found yourself in. Now, as our call

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that particular one, I think only worked in various shades

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>of gray for that for that approach, The one they've

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>created so far as only black and white. But they

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>think that they can scale it up and expand its

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>frequency diversity, and so that that's a that's a solid maybe.

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh here's one of the yes column, because we haven't

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>really talked about like a solid hit of a superpower.

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>We can replicate today night vision. We can totally replicate

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>night vision today using things like night vision goggles. Now

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that's that's obviously you know, technology on top of you. Yes, yes,

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>there are no implants for that yet. But yeah, that

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that one's been kicking around since World War Two. So

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>we've got that one covered. Converting infrared light into visible light.

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Now we do convert that. Whether or not we could

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>ever biologically uh engineers somebody so that they can perceive infrared,

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting question. Because it would not only require

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>us to be able to pick up infrared signals, but

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to process them. Uh, it's certainly not biologically impossible. There

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 1>are animals that exist today, you see, and it's some

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 1>snakes consense infra red. It's just the question. I don't

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>think it's a seeing infrared as much as uh, tasting

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>it isn't it? Am I incorrect? I don't know? But

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that sounds cool. It's it is, certainly it's it's like

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>a taste smell combo really, but it's it's one of

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>those things that while we can see examples of creatures

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.760
<v Speaker 1>being able to see into spectrums that were not whether

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>that's infrared or ultra violet, the question remains whether or

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 1>not we can engineer people to do that. That maybe

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>possible in the future. I mean that's one of the

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>sort of the issue with all of these Can we

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 1>give a human some kind of animal power? There's always

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a big kind of question mark, Well, if we can,

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot easier to say no, that's definitely not

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>going to happen for some of the crazier powers. Some

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>of these other ones are a little more borderline. Yeah.

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.879
<v Speaker 1>For For the record, according to a very brief Google search.

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>There there are these little kind of pits on snake

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>faces that control the infrared sensing. Gotcha. Uh, then we've

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>got wall crawling. That crawler can also crawl on walls. Yeah,

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>we've done whole episodes about that too. About some of

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the materials that people are using, to the biommicry that

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>people are using to reproduce sticky. Yeah, yeah, sticky often

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>comes down to chemical, but there's also physical. So Uh,

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>there's a researchers that m I T created a carbon

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>nanotube based tape that could, in theory, line the gloves

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and shoes of a suit, so like a Spider Man's

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 1>suit if you want to go with a different superhero. Uh.

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>And it clings like glue but can be reused indefinitely.

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't lose its stickiness. It relies on the Vanderwall's

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>force to hold two surfaces together, right, and that's just

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>sort of this tiny molecular level force. It's active a

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>very small scales. Yes, So making sure that you can

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 1>have something that can support the weight of say your

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>average mutant obviously has its challenges, but it's there's nothing

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>specifically that we know of that would uh prevent us

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>from being able to do that in the future. Now,

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>we're still ages away from being able to produce anything

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.839
<v Speaker 1>like that on a large scale, but it's it's theoretically

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:29.280
<v Speaker 1>at least possible. So uh, not not a biological approach.

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>We're not biologically changing people to be able to wall crawl.

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>But again, using technology in this case, a a you know,

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 1>a textile based technology could make it possible. Okay, well,

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.720
<v Speaker 1>time to get to the easy one, the teleprotation one. Yeah,

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>totally doable via genetic engineering. Right if you if you

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>happen to be a quantum particle, then maybe people that

0:36:54.000 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>you could be it that you're ut Yeah, well jerks, Yeah, Lauren,

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>inhabits all states of being simultaneously. It's we just all

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>we've come to accept it, really, I mean, you know,

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe you've come to accept it. I'm still struggling with it.

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Well only one part are many other parts of you

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>have totally accepted it. Uh So Yeah, it's this is

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>one that's not going to be possible most likely. Uh,

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't see it. We have talked about telebrotation before,

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 1>and in fact scientists have looked into teleprotation, but it

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>has been on quantum particles, things like photons or a

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>feature of a quantum particle like it's spin. Uh, and

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>they've been able to teleport things like that. However, that

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't scale up. It's not something like you could. You

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>can't say, oh, now that we know how to uh

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>teleport this one, you know, disassemble this one particle and

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>reassemble it elsewhere without actually transporting it across the space

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>where that happened. We can never scale that up to

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>macro size. Yeah. If you want to read a really

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>interesting and clear to to the lay person breakdown of

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the problems with teleportation, I recommend checking out Lawrence Krauss

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>is the science of Star Trek. He has a wonderful

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 1>explanation of everything that's wrong with teleportation and like why

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.280
<v Speaker 1>it would just be impossible to do this? Yeah, Now

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 1>we should say that there's nothing that we know of

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>in physics that says it is absolutely impossible for a

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 1>macro sized object to ever teleport. We just are light

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>years away from ever discovering if that in fact is

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 1>possible or impossible. Um, it's it's impossible effectively to us

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:41.919
<v Speaker 1>today and likely will be for the foreseeable future. If

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, a thousand years from now we've developed

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a point where we could do it. Maybe then maybe

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that there is a way to do

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it for a macro sized object. However, based upon our

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>understanding right now, if we were to do the same

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of approach that we do on the quantum scale,

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 1>it would mean that you die when you teleport the

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the you that is you when you hit the button,

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.399
<v Speaker 1>it ceases to be Yeah, and then a copy of

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you when you press the button is constructed wherever it

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 1>was that you were supposed to go with your full memories. Apparently, magically,

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>that's that's in science fiction. Certainly, I don't know that

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 1>in reality that would actually happen. It was certainly when

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>your experience as an entity would cease to be. So

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>think of it like if you were to suddenly make

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>a clone of yourself and then someone shot you and

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you died. You would be gone. Your clone would continue

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to live, but you your experience would in the same

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing essentially, except instead of making a clone

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:39.919
<v Speaker 1>of you that exists at the same time you're making

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a you're you're stopping your existence and starting a clones

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 1>existence practically simultaneously. Yeah, but then again, how do you

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>know that that you didn't die one second before every

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>single second of your life, and you're just under the

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>illusion that your experience of consciousness is continuous. Well, Joe,

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>how do you not How do you know for a

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>fact that that clone of you isn't a better person

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>than you are and therefore it's a better How do

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you know that you're alive at all? Okay, philosophically thinking,

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with telebrotation being bad because I want

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to continue my existence as long as I possibly. Yeah, okay,

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>what about his tail? Prehensile tail? Pretty cool? Right? Monkeys

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>have them? Yeah, whole whole bunches of mammals have them,

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Various monkeys and eaters, porcupines, mice, possums, and etcetera. Um,

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I see zero reasons why we couldn't design robotic prosthetic

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:33.879
<v Speaker 1>tales that had function pretty well. Oh, I would be

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:37.320
<v Speaker 1>surprised if that wasn't one of the easier things to

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>genetically engineer and humans, especially because sometimes atavistic tales appear

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>in human babies without technological asia. Sure, I don't believe

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 1>that I've never read an account of anyone even being

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 1>able to to consciously control one. But if you're talking

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 1>about prehensile, then that does suppose that you would have

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>some some measure of control. Yeah, yeah, a pretty a

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>pretty large measure of control, a very advanced nervous and

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>and muscle system going on. It would definitely require some

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 1>massive changes in the fashion industry. Well, I mean, there

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>there is some reasonable care technology. I believe I've heard

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>before that the tales these aren't genes we lost. We

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>still have the genes to make a tail. We just

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>basically have another gene that says don't well, and and

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>again in order to have a prehensile one. I think

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the technology approached, like the actual robotic tail that that

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 1>ties into our system some other way, is the more

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:41.439
<v Speaker 1>likely early version of being able to have a tail.

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>If you want to, I could also imagine a science

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:47.320
<v Speaker 1>fiction future where people get you know, they get the tail.

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Either they design like a flesh press that yeah tail,

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Either that or or people have chosen

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to genetically alter the next generation to have tales, because

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>that is now so only the thing that people think

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 1>is awesome. Like, I gotta imagine at least a science

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 1>fiction story that follows that kind of thing. Whether or

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 1>not it ever becomes true, I don't know. I will

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you that there are robotic tales you can buy

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:15.879
<v Speaker 1>right now. You guys are familiar with them, that there

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>are super creepy conventions for this. Let's not judge Joe,

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>come on, sorry, but but you know the the you've

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 1>heard about the ears right that that respond to brain waves.

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>They're supposed to indicate what your mood is. You know,

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>they perk up or they they fold down. That kind

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 1>of thing, very popular. They came out in Japan. Uh

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>so did the tails. So the tails are essentially the

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>same sort of thing. It's supposed to read your emotional

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>state and then translate that into the various poses that

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 1>the tail can take, including things like wagging um. And

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I included a picture in our notes just so people

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 1>can see it. But just so people can see it,

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the people be Joe and Lauren. Uh I knew about these.

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I've known about him for a while because come on,

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I covered technology and so eventually I'm going to find

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>out about it. Yeah, you might have seen these because

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>they were on the internet. So I actually was following

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>this before it became a full product, when it was

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 1>still in development and Uh. I remember I interviewed a

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.919
<v Speaker 1>person named Shannon Morse for tech stuff who's a friend

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>of mine, and she has a pair of the ears,

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and I asked her about the tale and she was

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:33.360
<v Speaker 1>fully on board. So there's a market for it. Okay, well,

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:37.240
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about a different X Men, X Man X person.

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about it. If person sounds like they died,

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this in the last episode. Okay, how

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>about Storm? What about Storm? I want to talk about

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>her in her abilities. Yes, I also thought she was

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the original X Men. Mostly you can't have

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>more than one girl, and in an original Most of

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 1>the most of the depictions of the X Men rely

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>on the the lineup that came after the original group,

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>especially since a lot of the ones like uh like Beasts,

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>transformed further into in the later versions of the X Men. Okay, well,

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Storms powers pretty obviously are controlling the weather. Yeah. Uh,

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how mutant powers give you like, I

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the biological it explained at all. But

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>But also, Aurora is a very um Aurora. Sorry I

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 1>think I said Aurora. There is a very kind of

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 1>mystical X Men. She she's portrayed almost as as a

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>goddess in in a lot of mythologies. She's like more

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 1>like Thor than like Wolverine. Not not quite, not quite

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to that level. But yeah, but they never really bother

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.359
<v Speaker 1>explaining her. She's just kind of like, well, to be fair,

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>they don't bother to explain most of them. It's just

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>when you come down. It's not that I've read. I'm

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>sure you know. Please please write in if I'm completely incorrect. Well,

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, there been mountains of materials written about

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.320
<v Speaker 1>these characters, and we there's no way we could have

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>read all of it. But at any rate, Storm's ability

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>is to influence the weather to the point where she

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 1>can make storms appear out of nowhere. She can ice

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and driving, she can even fly. She can manipulate the

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 1>air enough so that she's able to support herself and

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>fly around that way. Yeah, so I think the first

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 1>thing to note would be that this is pretty obviously

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>not something that a person can do with their body, right,

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the more abstracted version is, well, can you

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>at least build a machine that would do some of

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>this stuff and you could wheel it around with you?

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 1>So essentially the Cobra commander weather controlled of us. We

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>we've actually talked a little bit, well not about the

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Cobra Commander one, maybe maybe about that one too, but

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about controlling the weather in a couple other episodes,

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and how essentially impossible it really is, especially given the

0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>fact that we don't know what the weather is doing

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.280
<v Speaker 1>right now. I I mean, like, like we don't understand

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the systems enough to really be able to control them.

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 1>There's so many factors that go into weather systems and

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 1>so many variables that can change, like we don't know.

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>We don't know which variables are necessarily the most important.

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>We know that there are big ones like temperature, pressure

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of that kind of stuff, but we don't necessarily know

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>which ones are the ones that are going to make

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:29.280
<v Speaker 1>a system produce let's say, six inches of rain versus

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.839
<v Speaker 1>a system that doesn't end up raining at all, And

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>from our measurements, it looks like both were more or

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>less identical up to a point. And so it's very

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>tricky to even know what weather is going to be

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like in uh within a span of a day, much

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>less be able to manipulate it so that we can

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>make it do what we wanted to do. Um. Also,

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 1>weather systems like big storm systems have tons of energy,

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean a massive amount of energy going into it.

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>We talked about how if you want to to equate

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that to uh energy that we would produce, You're talking

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 1>about nuclear bomb levels of energy. And so it's just

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>not something that you can practically do. And you know,

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 1>we've seen some weather um some weather manipulation techniques like

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>cloud seating, but we don't even really know how effective

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that is or if it's effective at all. Again, unless

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you are able to somehow magically do the same experiment twice,

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:34.359
<v Speaker 1>once where under exact conditions you are able to seed

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the clouds and see if it makes rain, and once

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 1>when you don't seed the cloud and see if those

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>same conditions would produce rain. You can't really be certain.

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh Now, whether or not cloud seating works is not

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the topic of this episode. We could we could go

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>into tons of papers that have been written that either

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>support it or contested Chu. I think that they've done

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>some some good research on that over on stuff they

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to know. Yeah, the point that we're

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:07.320
<v Speaker 1>just going to pass the buck over to them, but sorry,

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 1>they love to be asked that question. Um, but no, seriously,

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>like like we were, it's really just driving home the

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>point that this is really complex. These are high energy

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>systems and we just don't have the knowledge, let alone

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>the technology to to change it. Oh sure, sure, but

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, caveat if you're talking about causing environmental changes

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 1>in an immediate controlled area. You know, air pressure, heat

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:39.439
<v Speaker 1>and cold, moisture, electrostatic discharges, directed gusts of air were

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 1>totally aces at those things. We have fans, yeah, yeah,

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:46.959
<v Speaker 1>and not of the show. We have been pushing air

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:52.320
<v Speaker 1>devices fans, oscillating devices that create airflow. You could simulate

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>lightning with, you know, some kind of Tesla coil like device.

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, sure, you know, for some of these things

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you really need to be in a sea old or

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>sealable room. Um. For For others we could design relatively

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 1>on the go devices. But again, the real problem here

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>is the is the energy requirements, Like like you were

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>saying a moment ago um. And also any handheld versions

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of these things would be super dangerous.

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I would not personally want to be carrying around a

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Tesla coil. That sounds enormously bad. Yeah, there's not enough

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Faraday cage in the world to make me do that,

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>part of you would still be holding the device. So yeah,

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've seen Faraday like suits where people got

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>zapped by Tesla coils, which looks really awesome. Yeah. I

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know that I want to wear one anytime soon,

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>but if you have one, let me know, because I

0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 1>can change my mind under the right circumstances. You'll either

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 1>send us a video or or let us know if

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>we can come try it on. This is where we

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:55.360
<v Speaker 1>try and find out if architect listens to our show. Okay, well,

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>now I've got one that's pretty easy, but also in

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a kind of disappointing way. Okay, Pyro, I mean, well, heck,

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>this one's pretty solid. I mean, basically all you need

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 1>is a flamethrower. I mean, is kind of dumb. Well,

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean when you when you think of it this way, like,

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the ability to shoot flames from your body and not

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:23.839
<v Speaker 1>be harmed by that fire would be pretty handy, you know,

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 1>But that's also the aspect of his power that is

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>really not doable. I mean, I can't see that there

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 1>no matter what kind of genetic tampering you do, I

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:34.919
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any way you can shoot fire out

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.359
<v Speaker 1>of your body and not be harmed, but you'd still

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:39.360
<v Speaker 1>need a fuel source, is the thing. Even if you

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 1>could somehow control your immediate body temperature to rise to

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to but the ignition point of whatever material, you would

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>still need the material. You've got to have the three

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 1>things right. You need heat, oxygen, and fuel. So you'd

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.359
<v Speaker 1>have to be supplying some sort of fuel, maybe if

0:50:56.400 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>you have some kind of gland that like squirts like utane. No,

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I just had a thought. Actually, so it's not like Piro.

0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>But there is in nature, for example, like the Bombardier

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 1>beetle that has a two different chemicals I believe that,

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>or maybe even more than two. I'm not sure. I

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>haven't looked this up now, but but it has some

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 1>different chemicals that it stores separately in the body, and

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:23.279
<v Speaker 1>by combining them, I think with a catalyst, it can

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>scored out hot corrosive stuff that burns. The chemical burn

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 1>is a little different terrifactual. Yeah, and so that's not

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>exactly like PIRO. And I'm not saying you can just

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 1>put some you know, like uh, Bombardier beetle jeans in

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 1>your body and then you can do that. But I'm

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:44.840
<v Speaker 1>at least trying to think of some way that that

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.799
<v Speaker 1>a an organic body could shoot hot stuff. I too

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:51.479
<v Speaker 1>totally want to see a bombardeer Beetles superhero now though, Yeah,

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.360
<v Speaker 1>like I like blue beetle Beetle is pretty cool. But

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.840
<v Speaker 1>really no, it seems like chemical reaction would be probably

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.040
<v Speaker 1>the best way to do that, right, because then you

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:04.280
<v Speaker 1>could store the potential energy and the body without hurting yourself. Well,

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 1>you have to have some way of making sure that

0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that those chemicals remain inert. Yeah, yeah, that's that's definitely

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing that you wouldn't want. I mean, like,

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.879
<v Speaker 1>if you, for example, we're being oh, I don't know,

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 1>crushed by saber tooth, you wouldn't want to have those

0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 1>those bags crushed outside of you. I'm thinking. I'm thinking, like,

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you go wash your hands after using the restroom, and

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 1>just the rubbing of hands back and forth, you suddenly

0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 1>realize you're melting your palms off. That would be awkward. Okay, Well,

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to do the ridiculously simple version of this, you just

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.920
<v Speaker 1>strap a flamethrower to your body. Yeah. Colin the guy

0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and guy who did the Wolverine claws, essentially he made

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:51.879
<v Speaker 1>made a rig like this, And again he didn't talk

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:55.280
<v Speaker 1>about exactly how it worked, but based upon what I saw,

0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it looked like he had two different UH tubes mounted

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 1>two risks. One risk acted as the pilot light, so

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>it would produce the ignition flame. The second rist was

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 1>what allowed him to project out the fuel whatever it

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 1>was that he was using. I don't know exactly what

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:16.800
<v Speaker 1>it was, And he was able to project flames several

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:22.720
<v Speaker 1>feet away from like they extended several feet from his wrists. Um, yeah,

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:25.959
<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, by bending his Yeah. But both

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Show and I are sitting back in our chairs shaking

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 1>our heads like that sounds like such a tremendously poor decision.

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>It was certainly probably well, it was dangerous, Yes, very dangerous,

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and h I do not recommend anyone attempt to build

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>such a rig on their own either. But it also

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:46.360
<v Speaker 1>was pretty wicked cool in the video. But Uh, I

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>would never use this thing because I would be afraid

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of setting myself on fire or having a mechanical failure. Um,

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.240
<v Speaker 1>anything that would end up having a fuel he could

0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 1>lead to catastrophe. Obviously increa rereadibly dangerous. But he did

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:05.320
<v Speaker 1>build a suit that essentially replicates the abilities of Pyro

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 1>to shoot flames from his hands, although again using a

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:14.160
<v Speaker 1>technological approach rather than technologically plausible. Totally certainly, Yeah, this

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 1>is something that we can do a dangerous based pretty

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 1>much off the flamethrower. Yeah. All right, Um, so let's

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:24.360
<v Speaker 1>talk about Magneto all right. I think as a casual

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 1>X Men fan, I think Magneto is my favorite character. Yeah. Yeah,

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:30.279
<v Speaker 1>er Eric lynch HER's is great. Him and Charles have

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 1>a very terrific relationship, and he's you know, he's well

0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 1>thought out to lots of He's really fun to deal

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 1>with because he's got so much going on in his head. Um.

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 1>But his his superpowers are controlling I guess electromagnetic forces,

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:53.319
<v Speaker 1>in that he can manipulate any magnetic object, which turns

0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 1>out to be anything metal and a lot of the

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:58.400
<v Speaker 1>time and the Marble universe, it doesn't necessarily need to

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:00.960
<v Speaker 1>be feral magnetic apparently him how he's able to make

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 1>it magnetic anyway, because there there are times Again in Marvel,

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I think things have qualities that are necessary to the plot.

0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 1>So in one plot, it may be that adamantium is

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:18.880
<v Speaker 1>absolutely not magnetic. It cannot be magnetic. In one plot,

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and in another plot, Magneto uses his powers to strip

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 1>all the adamantium off of wolverine skeleton and hurl it away.

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:29.400
<v Speaker 1>So it all depends on the needs of that story.

0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh As for the ability to manipulate electro magnetism, that's

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>what all of our electronics are largely based on um

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and a lot a lot of powerful systems, like like

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:45.400
<v Speaker 1>our power grid, are dependent upon the the use of

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:48.480
<v Speaker 1>electro magnets, and uh so it's one of those things

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that we have a pretty good handle on. We don't

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 1>have an ability to just give someone a glove that

0:55:56.719 --> 0:56:02.360
<v Speaker 1>lets them manipulate at will. Uh an object and levitated

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:05.520
<v Speaker 1>in the air using magnetism alone that we do not have.

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So while we have a deep understanding of it, we

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:10.680
<v Speaker 1>also know the limitations. It's sort of like a you know,

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 1>if I have a powerful magnet and I pointed at

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 1>something that has you know that that reacts to magnets,

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna come toward me. If I'm close enough for

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that to to interact, I can't also be pulled towards it. Well, yeah,

0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>if my mass is great enough, then I'm not I'm not. Yes,

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll fill the poll as well, technically both the magnet

0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and the object will pull together. But if my mass

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:37.239
<v Speaker 1>is greater, it's going to come to me. That's what

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I always wondered. So like when Magneto lifts up the

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:44.479
<v Speaker 1>Golden Gate bridge and moves it, wouldn't wouldn't whatever force

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:47.319
<v Speaker 1>he's creating just pull him to the bridge. Well, if

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.879
<v Speaker 1>he's creating a completely distinct electro magnetic field from him,

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 1>then no, but it would mean that he would be

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.560
<v Speaker 1>able to create an electromagnetic field that could completely encircle

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>something else and he would not be part of that.

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well then that's fine. Yeah, sure, sure. I

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:06.759
<v Speaker 1>do also want to want to put in here um

0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and I actually had never thought about this until we

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:14.239
<v Speaker 1>were doing this podcast. But y'all, magnetic fields interact with

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>electric fields, right, I mean, especially if it's I mean

0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>right right there. There's stuff that's going on there. So

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you would have to be real careful if you were

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 1>a magneto around computers or electronics of any kind. Yeah,

0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>he walks by your hard drive by Apple headquarters and

0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you just hear whales of people inside. That's that's his

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>real evil superpower. Why does he bother getting saber tooth

0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to do stuff. He could totally be the ultimate like terrorist.

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:47.440
<v Speaker 1>You could just walk past a Google data center and

0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it crashed. The stock market has mutant shielding. It's like

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:56.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the first things they put. We don't have

0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>any more mutants in this list. I mean, we've been

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 1>talking for a whole other hours, so we could have

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 1>talked about magneto using electromagnetism to fly and how that

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:09.240
<v Speaker 1>is not the same as using a superconductor that's been

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 1>super cooled in order to get into quite he's clearly

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:16.680
<v Speaker 1>just pushing off of our ferromagnetic core of the Earth.

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe he's just using the Earth's magnetic field

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and attracting to the top of his head to it

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:27.000
<v Speaker 1>so he floats off the ground. Well, if you want

0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to get about as close to being magneto as as possible,

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 1>go back and listen to our episode about biohacking. Yeah,

0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:37.920
<v Speaker 1>which is you can you can sense the presence of

0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a microwave or something like that, and okay, and there

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>are here's another point there there are some birds, migrating

0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 1>birds that have our migratory I suppose the grammar would

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.840
<v Speaker 1>be there um that can that can sense magnetic fields.

0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 1>In that they Uh, there's some kind of chemical reaction

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that goes on in their eyeballs that lets the see

0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 1>patterns of light and darkness, allows them to perceive the

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 1>magnetic fields of the Earth in order to do their migrations. Right, yeah,

0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a navigation sure, so so I guess hypothetically, if

0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>we really figured out how that could work, we could

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:15.439
<v Speaker 1>at least perceive magnetic So it might be that we're

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 1>not able to move the Golden gate Bridge, but we

0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 1>might be able to tell you what direction it is.

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Magneto, you're a huge help. The Magneto and Apple

0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:30.120
<v Speaker 1>maps we can dominate the world. We need to go

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:33.920
<v Speaker 1>back through these two podcasts and write down all of

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the incredibly stupid superheroes we've dreamed up with their like

0:59:39.040 --> 0:59:44.080
<v Speaker 1>lame almost powers and see if it actually, like could

0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:46.240
<v Speaker 1>make a team that could do something. No one's going

0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to be as lame as arm fall Off Man. But

0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that armed oh okay, okay, well that's fair. Arm fall

0:59:55.880 --> 1:00:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Off Boy is essentially what we actually talked about for Wolverines, right,

1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:05.000
<v Speaker 1>So there we go. Uh I think uh, I think

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:07.520
<v Speaker 1>we are. And of course there are obviously tons more

1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:10.000
<v Speaker 1>mutants in the X Men universe, many of whom have

1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:14.520
<v Speaker 1>powers that overlap the ones we've discussed here. They're probably several,

1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 1>uh that are very different from the ones we talked about,

1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:20.040
<v Speaker 1>but we tried to cover a good spectrum so that

1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:23.720
<v Speaker 1>we could tackle as many as we possibly could. Ultimately,

1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:28.920
<v Speaker 1>there's you know, it's it's clear any kind of superhero

1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:32.800
<v Speaker 1>story where you've got true superpowers, it's well beyond our

1:00:32.880 --> 1:00:35.760
<v Speaker 1>human abilities. That's what makes them superhuman. It's what gives

1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:40.080
<v Speaker 1>them the the larger than life mythical status that makes

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:43.560
<v Speaker 1>those stories what they are. And if you try to

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<v Speaker 1>really explain how they work on a biological level, you

1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:50.360
<v Speaker 1>rapidly run out of explanations and excuses, and then you

1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:53.160
<v Speaker 1>just have to start making stuff up, especially when it

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:58.200
<v Speaker 1>comes to biological mutations that give you magic. Uh. So

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