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Speaker 3: Sonning it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: We were joking, like these guys out here doing the

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Speaker 2: was supposed to be overcast and a little rainy. Now

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Speaker 2: the sun is bearing down on us again. Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: has ditched the shorts, by the way, He's back in

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Speaker 2: we are here on the campus of the Saint Vincent College,

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Speaker 2: Hey, you gotta you gotta keep Limberg baby secrets. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's a secret. Hey did you see what

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Speaker 2: the Steelers were doing to walk through that? Mark tweets

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Speaker 2: us here, Matt. It will keep the tweets rolling. We

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Speaker 2: got more coming in again. It's kind of an open

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Speaker 2: ended show today. Not really, there is a walkthrough going

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Speaker 2: on in front of us, but UH practice this morning,

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Speaker 2: so a little bit more of an open ended program

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Speaker 2: for us, uh this afternoon and into the early evening

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Speaker 2: with you all. You know where to get at us

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, on x if you want to get involved,

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Speaker 2: at Williamson NFL at Wesley Yuler. Mark tweets and says

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Speaker 2: along the lines of yesterday's conversation about Aaron Rodgers being

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Speaker 2: better at using the middle of the field as opposed

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Speaker 2: to a Russell Wilson. I'm wondering, does this Steelers roster

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Speaker 2: start to feel like the twenty twenty Titans roster where

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith had his most success as an offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Rogers kind of being the Tannehill Henry being created in

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Speaker 2: the aggregate by Jalen Warren and Caleb Johnson, DK Metcalf

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Speaker 2: being the AJ Brown type and now having an improved

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Speaker 2: John new Smith. I don't know about creating Derrick Henry

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Speaker 2: and the aggregate, right, But other than that, I mean

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Speaker 2: I could see I could sort of what I could

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Speaker 2: see what he's saying there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot to unpack there, And it's a really

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Speaker 3: really good question, Vic. That's when Smith had his most

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Speaker 3: success and therefore became the head coach of the Falcons

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Speaker 3: because he was the hot offensive coordinator. And it wasn't

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Speaker 3: that long ago. And I'm a making fun of Coach Smith.

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Speaker 3: He looks older than he is. Yeah, he was the

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Speaker 3: young hot coordinator, much like a Ben Johnson just a

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Speaker 3: few years ago, you know. So first off, yes, Rogers

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Speaker 3: will be much more willing and to throw between the

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Speaker 3: numbers in the middle of the field, but he doesn't

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Speaker 3: based off Jets tape. That doesn't mean it's not coming

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Speaker 3: or a spike, but he's not at the top of

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Speaker 3: the league. He's still a little below average in terms

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Speaker 3: of past attempts in the middle. But Wilson is always, always,

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Speaker 3: always at the bottom. Yeah, I mean a lot of

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Speaker 3: it's just a height situation doesn't seas not as comfortable,

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Speaker 3: up twenty percent or thirty percent or whatever. Okay, Now, Tannehill,

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Speaker 3: that the current quarterback does. Obviously we could fight about it.

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Speaker 3: We will see as Rogers pass his prime, where's he at?

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Speaker 3: None of that really matters from the neck up or

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Speaker 3: in those days, and I know it wasn't that long ago,

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Speaker 3: play action was newer and it was really really a

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Speaker 3: Henry absolutely helps that. But there's a lot of data

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Speaker 3: action than not. I mean, it's still linebackers still take

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Speaker 3: add a lot of to this question's credens. Get those

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Speaker 3: think people look at Metcalf, who happened to be college

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Speaker 3: become a Steeler way more in breaking routes for Metcalf

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Speaker 3: it's a good way of looking at it, but it's

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Speaker 3: I mean coachesang too much, the players change too much.

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Speaker 2: But a good question, though, it's a great question, right right.

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Speaker 3: I mean play action and shots over the middle. If

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Speaker 3: By the way, I should have mentioned this, play action

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Speaker 2: Me tweets us me and says doctor west Man, an

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Speaker 2: adjunct professor. Matt was that loving the total yins or

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Speaker 2: overreaction hysteria. Three quick questions. Number one, is it too

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Speaker 2: early to start panicking over the offense not clicking?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Too early?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: And he probably sent that not knowing how practice went today.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Sure, sure, today was the day where the

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Speaker 2: And that was an incredibly high bar to clear through

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Speaker 2: the first six days, but they they bit back, They

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how that looks now going forward

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Speaker 3: And I think you and Motes have talked about this

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Speaker 3: offense should be hind bb behind defense amongst teammates.

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Speaker 2: It is. It's very normal. It's also why you know

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Speaker 2: the you'll never find over unders if you're a you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're a gambling person, if you're someone who puts

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Speaker 2: never find lower over unders than you do week one.

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Speaker 2: Really college in college football and the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: because that just takes the offense a little bit longer

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Speaker 3: Get into that totally adds up. Because something I saw

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Speaker 2: Nothing's on tape yet, right.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, Like Jets are gonna come after you you're

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Speaker 3: because yeah, you can practice it, but you're practicing it a

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Speaker 2: It always makes me laugh, you know how this works?

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Speaker 2: Like in college football? You always have some big Week

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Speaker 2: one matchups, right, sure, Like this year I think Ohio

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, like a lot of eyes on them.

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Speaker 2: it never fails to make me laugh. You'll you'll look

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Speaker 2: at like Ohio State Texas, right, and the over under

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Speaker 2: and then the final score seventeen thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right right, Yeah, because it's a weak walking continuity,

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Speaker 3: isn't there. Yeah, defensive speed is as good as it's

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Speaker 2: Quarterbacks and wide receivers don't have their you know, their

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Speaker 2: signal isn't as strong as it might be throughout the

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Speaker 3: Say what you want. You're not in quite football shape

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Speaker 3: yet either, you've not played sixty minutes of plays.

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Speaker 2: Physical, rigorous, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hit.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a reason the Denver Broncos in September

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Speaker 3: at home have a ridiculously good winning percentage.

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Speaker 2: Yep, because you've got to go there to shape. It's

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Speaker 3: And I hated that when the schedule came out, like,

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Speaker 3: I know they're going to Denver. I really hope it's

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Speaker 2: It was like, I loved going to Atlanta week one

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Speaker 2: because you got new coaching staff, her cousin's coming off of.

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Speaker 3: An injury, someone knows their coach well.

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Speaker 2: Personnel. Hated the Broncos. It was like, loved the Week

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Speaker 3: And I didn't even think Denver be as good as

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Speaker 2: We were still like you're getting bo Nicks in his

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Speaker 3: That'd sells so much. And it could be Super Steeler

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Speaker 2: Look at the second one, not the first one.

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Speaker 2: Matt Have you seen this movie called it Departed? Right?

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Speaker 3: Like? There's plenty of movies out there to satisfy me,

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Speaker 3: it's not the same as watching the F one race

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Speaker 2: I would love to go to one of those races.

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Speaker 3: I'm not cars always Neflix series and I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: And right, very very yeah, very cool stuff Ferrari and

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Speaker 2: about halfway home. We're here with you until five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We've been getting to some of your tweets, Steelers related,

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Speaker 2: super related, movie related. Listen, it's all Matt. I think.

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Speaker 2: I think this is somebody who and I know you

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Speaker 2: can relate to this too. Like you know that I

443
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Speaker 2: grew up a sports media dork, right, whether it was

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Speaker 2: whether it was shows on ESPN like PTI and Around

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Speaker 2: the Horn and you know, College Football Live and NFL

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Speaker 2: Live and all those things, whether it was radio shows

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Speaker 2: and podcasts things like that, like growing up consumer football

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Speaker 2: in sports media. Okay, I think when you are somebody

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Speaker 2: who does.

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Speaker 3: Harder for me at the time, I mean like magazine.

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Speaker 2: Show and like a lot of mine was just the

452
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Speaker 2: DVD Morning show and Stan Savage and Mark Madden, you know,

453
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Speaker 2: and then you started to get to the point where

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Speaker 2: ESPN Radio became a thing with Mike and Mike and

455
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Speaker 2: a lot of you know, a lot of those shows

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Speaker 2: back with Colin Cowherd was young and on ESPN Radio.

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Speaker 3: I gotta hijack something super quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: So in my day when I was a teenager, my

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Speaker 3: dad would have a transistor radio sitting in like the

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Speaker 3: corner of the kitchen on like volume four out of ten,

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Speaker 3: and my mom didn't love that I was playing like

463
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Speaker 3: during dinner, but it's always on in the background. And

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Speaker 3: I think it was Myron from six to eight and

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Speaker 3: Stan from eight to nine or somehow they had three

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Speaker 3: hours between the.

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Speaker 2: Two of them sports.

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Speaker 3: And I used to joke with Stan, who's one of

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Speaker 3: my all time favorite people I'd ever been on the

470
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Speaker 3: radio with that first time I was ever on the radio,

471
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Speaker 3: I was on your show when I was sixteen. Is

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Speaker 3: a calling guy? That's great, Stan, What do you think

473
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Speaker 3: the Steelers should do some kind of nerve question or

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Speaker 3: something right? That's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: And I know I've told you the stories that I've

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Speaker 2: told him on Steelers Nation Radio before, Like when I'd

477
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Speaker 2: be at church on Sundays with my parents. I'd be like,

478
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Speaker 2: give me the car keys. I want to go in

479
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Speaker 2: and listen to Tounch and Wolf on the pregame show,

480
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Speaker 2: you know, for Steelers games. I would my parents when

481
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Speaker 2: I was a kid, you know, about nine o'clock ish

482
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Speaker 2: would be bedtime, and that would usually be right when

483
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Speaker 2: the third period was starting at the Penguins games, and

484
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Speaker 2: my parents would be like, you gotta go to bed. Well,

485
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Speaker 2: I'd go in my room and I'd turn my clock

486
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Speaker 2: radio on so low that they couldn't hear it. But

487
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Speaker 2: then I could fall asleep listening to Mike Lang call

488
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Speaker 2: the games. You know what I mean that that kind

489
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Speaker 2: of stuff. I think if you're somebody like that, you

490
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Speaker 2: would like to know a little bit about the hosts,

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Speaker 2: the commentators. You don't just listen because you love the sport,

492
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Speaker 2: of course, but the reason you couldnsume it for hours

493
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Speaker 2: and hours is because you like the host too, right

494
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Speaker 2: or right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think people like hearing us joke for a few

497
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Speaker 2: minutes about soup and music and movies.

498
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Speaker 3: People tell dale and all the time bikes. We'd love

499
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Speaker 3: to be sitting in Sharkis with you guys having a

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Speaker 3: conversation where like they're just like these.

501
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Speaker 2: Are football, A million different food and just silly topics.

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Speaker 3: You know. But even like back in those days, I

503
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Speaker 3: think we were like ten and we went on a

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Speaker 3: family vacation right before football season. So go to the

505
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Speaker 3: airport and they had this great newsstand. You know, I

506
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Speaker 3: mean there's no internet back up.

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Speaker 2: You get newspapers and magazines.

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Speaker 3: And then just I forget what publication it was, but

509
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Speaker 3: it was a big book. It was a big piece

510
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Speaker 3: of paper. And yes, we were like Disney and Epcot

511
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Speaker 3: and all that, But when I come back to the

512
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Speaker 3: room and I would just tear that thing apart because

513
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Speaker 3: every team's every position was broken down with like two paragraphs.

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Speaker 3: It was hard to find back then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I still remember buying the Phil Steel magazines

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Speaker 2: sports magazines.

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Speaker 3: And I love that one so much that the next

518
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Speaker 3: year we weren't going on a vacation. I was like, Dad,

519
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Speaker 3: you're working downtown. Anywhere you can find to find this publication.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't find it. My mom takes me to the airport.

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Speaker 3: We're not even going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: You can do that at the end, right right right right,

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Speaker 2: stroll in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just strolled in to go to the news status,

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Speaker 3: you know, like, oh they have it again, Yes.

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Speaker 2: That is fantastic. Oh no, I've still got all the

527
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Speaker 2: old Football and Hockey ALMANACX and all the preview college

528
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Speaker 2: football preview magazines you know from twenty twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 3: I bet I have twenty milk paper blue books. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you that are worn out. I mean I read

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Speaker 3: every word in those things multiple time.

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Speaker 2: My version of that is like every summer in July,

533
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Speaker 2: my family goes to Hilton Head and that's always when

534
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Speaker 2: the college football preview magazines would come out. So I

535
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Speaker 2: would make my parents stop at a gas station on

536
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Speaker 2: the way down, and I would always get Phil Steels

537
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Speaker 2: was always my favorite, Like I would usually get Lindy's

538
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Speaker 2: and Athlon and some of the other. Phil Steels was

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Speaker 2: always my favorite. Now, during college football season, the WVU

540
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Speaker 2: show that I do, he comes on with us once

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Speaker 2: a week during the season, and I still fanboy. He's

542
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Speaker 2: been doing it for like three years now and I

543
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Speaker 2: still tell him all the time, like I used to

544
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Speaker 2: buy your Maggot. It was like the highlight of my

545
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Speaker 2: summer every year. Yeah, where does he think w W

546
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Speaker 2: is gonna finish? In the Big East third. He's crazy,

547
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Speaker 2: you're kidding me.

548
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Speaker 3: Like Mell's book would do a mock at the seven

549
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Speaker 3: round mock at the end. It had to be so

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Speaker 3: outdated by the time that I actually read it. I

551
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Speaker 3: mean he whenever he published it, it was two months before

552
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Speaker 3: the drash, you know, I'd be like, oh man, this

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Speaker 3: get in the third round. That'd be incredible, the greatest

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Speaker 3: thing ever. And it did kind of come full circle

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Speaker 3: that way. Like you mentioned that he's on your radio show.

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Speaker 3: I remember four or five years ago. I go strolling

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Speaker 3: down to do draft coverage at the Stealer facility and

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Speaker 3: Bill hill Groves on before me. He's in that first

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Speaker 3: hour before the bulletster fly and he's just kind of

560
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Speaker 3: doing like the intro stuff. He's a legend, obviously, and

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Speaker 3: he has a draft magazine in front of him, you know,

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Speaker 3: old school magazine. Hey, Matt, how you doing. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I wrote that, and you'd have to. I gotta brought

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Speaker 3: you one. I wrote all the team heads for that one. Yeah, right,

565
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Speaker 3: I wrote half of that magazine.

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Speaker 2: You want me to sign.

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Speaker 3: My name is nowhere to be found in it, but

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Speaker 3: I did, righte.

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Speaker 2: Half of it's fantastic. More a couple more tweets here

570
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Speaker 2: to get to and rolling in and we could bob

571
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Speaker 2: and weave with these throughout the show. Here's a good

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Speaker 2: one from Annie football Steelers question and movie question. That's

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Speaker 2: what we like, you know, like one one, we can't

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Speaker 2: get two nuts And he says, based on what you've

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Speaker 2: seen so far, any player cuts that would be that

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Speaker 2: would come as a surprise. I think they're gonna cut

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Speaker 2: a defensive lineman hard.

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Speaker 3: I mean there might be a d lineman that they

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Speaker 3: can turn into a six round pick just because the

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Speaker 3: teams might not wait around for you to cut him.

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Speaker 2: Maybe defensive back too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Labs and I had a good conversation today about

583
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of corners on this corners right, I

584
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Speaker 3: mean post Ramsey trade, Like Pierre is not the greatest

585
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Speaker 3: cover guy in the world, but he's a really good

586
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Speaker 3: special team or Eccles is gonna make the team. Trice

587
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Speaker 3: was supposed to call in yesterday and supposed calling today.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen, But I don't know. He's guarantee

589
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Speaker 3: shot Bedie Bishop, you guarantee the spot you're not keeping seven.

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Speaker 2: No life moves very quick in this.

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00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and you have to have some special teams capabilities.

592
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey shows up everyone else's jobs in jeopardy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, so yeah I would go.

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Speaker 3: I would go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think either or or maybe both. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna end up cutting or trading a quality defensive lineman

597
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Speaker 2: and maybe maybe a cornerback as many too. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: he also wants to know, are each of our favorite

599
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Speaker 2: Mafia movie? Which is our favorite Mafia movie?

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Speaker 3: GF one and two are the best movies ever made?

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Speaker 3: And that's end the story for me.

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Speaker 2: It's a holy trinity of actually you know what, cause

603
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Speaker 2: know because Scarface doesn't count as a Mafia movie.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: So it's Good Fellas Are Departed from me. It depends

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Speaker 2: if you if you harken to my nineties childhood, or

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Speaker 2: if you go with probably my favorite movie of the

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Speaker 2: twenty first century, which is The Departed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an unfair question because I'm not sure what

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Speaker 3: my third favorite movie is regardless of category, it's GF

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Speaker 3: one and two.

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Speaker 2: You're a big good Fellaw's guy though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's phenomenal. It's an eight to eight plus movie.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just it just has brutal competition, the worst

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Speaker 3: competition in this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Oh let's see here. Scott tweets us and says, Sharkys

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Speaker 2: or Dinos do you have a preference?

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Speaker 3: Both have been very good to us, but we get

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Speaker 3: a Sharkis every night and that's the spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both are very good to us. Like that said,

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Speaker 2: we do shows both. We got love for both have

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00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: both have outstanding food and the wings rightfully so get

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Speaker 2: a lot of attention. But it doesn't matter what you

624
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Speaker 2: order on either of their menus. They have got outstanding food.

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00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: But John the owner of Sharkys and John the general

626
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Speaker 2: manager of Sharkis Jean and John. They really take care

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Speaker 2: of us and so that is that is typically where

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Speaker 2: we end up. But I tell you what, you can't

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Speaker 2: go wrong with either. You got a good chance of

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Speaker 2: seeing some famous people at at at either. Last year

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Speaker 2: last summer, I went into Dino's to do a one

632
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Speaker 2: of our evening shows and Mike Pomlin and Brett Michaels

633
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Speaker 2: were sitting in the corner having wings and dinner together.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's.

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Speaker 3: Always there was a lot of you expect relation back then. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but Sharky's is my Latrobe cheers. You know, I mean, it's.

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Speaker 2: It's our latrobe cheers. That's a very it's where everybody

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00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: knows our name.

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00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: Every knows our name.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, let's sneak in one more here before

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Speaker 2: we go to break uh Nate says, I'm on a

642
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Speaker 2: road trip back to college in Morgantown. I need to

643
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Speaker 2: know what are your what are your top road trip snacks?

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Speaker 2: So see, I'm different with this. I'm not a big

645
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: sack because then I get thirsty, and then I drink water,

646
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Speaker 2: and then I gotta go to the bathroom, and then

647
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Speaker 2: we gotta stop more often. But like beef beef jerky

648
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: would probably be mine. Justin just Crena Butterfield pretzels he's

649
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: for he does, he sure does. Yeah, But I'm not

650
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Speaker 2: a big I'm not a big snack. We're drinking the

651
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: car guy, because then it's just gonna make me have

652
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Speaker 2: to use the bathroom and stop more.

653
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Speaker 3: Often as I often do. I'm gonna detour off the question.

654
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: So when I was with the Browns and we traveled

655
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Speaker 3: a lot, basic rule of thumb then with that organization

656
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Speaker 3: was if it's a six hour drive, for less drive

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Speaker 3: it if it's more fly it. We'll pay for whatever

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Speaker 3: your preference. And that's kind of a guy.

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Speaker 2: That's a fair like ask too, because from Cleveland there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of places you could drive in six hours.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but then I went to fly to at

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Speaker 3: WU State College blah blah blah blahlah. But I always

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Speaker 3: wanted I preferred to be in the car, so my

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Speaker 3: bumped mind at like eight hours or less. Okay, but

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Speaker 3: a lot of times you get hungry and if you're

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Speaker 3: in the car for that long, yeah, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of times in like the scouting world, I didn't want

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Speaker 3: to stop for drive through time and time again and

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Speaker 3: slop a burger all over me. I just wanted to

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Speaker 3: like get something filling before practice or after I left

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Speaker 3: Ohio State to come back. So I always had like

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Speaker 3: a jar of peanut butter and I would just take

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Speaker 3: a huge spoon or two with like a bottle of

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Speaker 3: water as I'm flying down the road and be like

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Speaker 3: that got me to where I need to be.

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Speaker 2: And big peanut butter on the fly kind of guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he just give me a big spoonful of

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Speaker 3: crunchy but creamy's fine.

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Speaker 2: Max was laughing at me the other day I put

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Speaker 2: peanut butter on a hot dog bun and was crush.

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Speaker 2: I just I couldn't find bread. I could only find

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Speaker 2: a hot dog bond. I was starving. Just threw some GIFs,

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Speaker 2: threw some jeff on the hot dogs real quick.

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Speaker 3: And just needed Nobody would say it be different or

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Speaker 3: if it was toast, that's that's cool. Originally I was like,

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Speaker 3: because I was thinking, you slapping on a.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, just hot talk bunch, just a hot

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Speaker 2: dog bond and jiff. I had about two minutes to

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Speaker 2: get something in my I wasn't gonna eat for a

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Speaker 2: couple of hours.

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Speaker 3: I'll often do like a big tablespoon raurs bite. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: That was my my my like struggle meal when I

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Speaker 2: was in college and couldn't afford stuff until I got

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Speaker 2: a paycheck, was spoonfuls of peanut butter.

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Speaker 3: But I rarely have like a bag of chips in

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Speaker 3: the front seat or w worms or you know, like

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Speaker 3: you know whatever.

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Speaker 2: SECONDO the break, yes, correct, and then I'll crush a

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Speaker 2: bottle of water and then I'll be like, oh no,

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Speaker 2: where's the rest area?

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Speaker 3: Very possible walk.

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Speaker 2: Through still going on in front of us. Looks like

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Speaker 2: Will Howard's leading some some two minute type stuff. Now,

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Speaker 2: uh plenty moving and shaking here. I mean I say

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Speaker 2: leading some two minute stuff. Remember this is all kind

707
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Speaker 2: of the mental side of things, but that looks to

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Speaker 2: be kind of what they're game planning and walking through.

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Speaker 2: But we got to take a break and we come

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Speaker 2: back on the other side. Some comments from Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: some more conversation. You know where to get at us

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Speaker 2: if you want to get involved on Twitter. It's all

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Speaker 2: happening here on a Thursday afternoon, heading towards the evening

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Speaker 2: Rocking and rolling along here on another day of the

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Speaker 2: drive on the campus of Saint Vincent College. Walk through

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Speaker 2: still going on in front of us on the far

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Speaker 2: side field, the grounds crew not quite multiplying at the

729
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Speaker 2: same pace that they were about an hour ago, but

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Speaker 2: still out here on the near side field, all seven

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Speaker 2: still accounted for. Some are planting seeds, some are working

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Speaker 2: on some differ. They're busy, yeah, some are running the

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Speaker 2: hoses here as still plenty.

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Speaker 3: Tamping device was not a tamping device. It's a sampler

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Speaker 3: advice device, like they would. That's that silver thing that

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Speaker 3: they like. I thought that was like hitting things down

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Speaker 3: and making it tight. If you notice, like on the

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Speaker 3: forty eight yard line right in front of us, right

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Speaker 3: by that red line, they take like a rectangular sample

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Speaker 3: and they throw them in buckets, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they like take them back to test them or

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Speaker 3: what happens there, right, I assume they come back and

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Speaker 3: fill them in.

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Speaker 2: But right if you see there's a couple of them right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: definitely it's interesting. Well, that's something we'll have to keep

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Speaker 2: an eye on it again.

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Speaker 3: Take it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna see if we can get some

749
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Speaker 2: of these guys to spill their secrets so much.

750
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Speaker 3: And I love their nozzles. They can really water with

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Speaker 3: the hose. That's great.

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Speaker 2: I could you know this, But like, I've got nothing

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Speaker 2: crazy but some small gardens in my backyard at home,

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Speaker 2: Like we do tomatoes and peppers and lettuce and cucumbers, basil.

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Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's all we did this year.

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Speaker 2: My daughters love it, you know, like they go down

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Speaker 2: they go down there and pick tomatoes right off the

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Speaker 2: vines and eat them. I could water my whole garden

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Speaker 2: about thirty seconds with that thing.

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Speaker 3: That's some serious hoses right there, right.

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Speaker 2: A guy who has a hose of an arm. You

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Speaker 2: see what I did there? Aaron Rodgers, full time MVP

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion. Of course, knew QB one for your

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I can't be first on this, but mister Rogers neighborhood

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Speaker 3: is there. It has to be a mister Rogers neighborhood joke,

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Speaker 3: you know. Correlation here there's the Rogers Center that's literally

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Speaker 3: right there. I assume I'm about the first to come

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Speaker 3: up with this correlation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gotta be some shirts in the Strip district

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Speaker 2: and out here in Latrow, right, and uh yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: there's some you know, speaking of like soup and restaurants

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Speaker 2: and food and stuff. I think there's some partnership availabilities there.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's all kinds of possibility, some possibilities.

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Speaker 3: I know where to get to the interview. But like

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Speaker 3: during the Big Ben year, it was pretty obvious they

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Speaker 3: were gonna take a quarterback and it was Eli Rivers

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Speaker 3: and Ben. Yes, there was all kinds of like three Rivers.

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Speaker 3: No one thought Ben would still be there, right right.

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Speaker 3: The odds on favor to be the Steelers pick was

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Speaker 3: Philip Rivers. Was Philip Rivers? All kinds of talk about

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Speaker 3: three Rivers, right, all kinds of stuff with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ohio the man in the film, right, Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers is, of course the quarterback tasked with getting these

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Speaker 2: Steelers not only into the postseason, but hopefully ending that

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Speaker 2: postseason drought. This season, he spoke talking about Arthur Smith's offense,

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Speaker 2: talking about some of the young guys in this offense

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Speaker 2: that he's impressed with so far. Here's what QB one

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Speaker 2: had to say.

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Speaker 4: Aaron looks like They have a lot of fun out there,

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Speaker 4: are you?

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Speaker 5: And how does the guy be doing this as long

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Speaker 5: as you've been doing it, still have fun of camp.

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Speaker 5: I mean, once it stops being fun, you should probably

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Speaker 5: hang it up. So I love that we're out here

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Speaker 5: in the trope. I love the opportunity for true camaraderie.

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Speaker 5: At nighttime, after meetings you're done.

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Speaker 4: Guys hang out. You know, guys coming to my room.

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Speaker 5: Last night, I was in high Smith's room. So that's

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Speaker 5: it's pretty cool to see everybody hanging out the way

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Speaker 5: they are and it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: A lot of really great offenses over the years. What

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Speaker 4: do you like about this arthur'spective? I like the flexibility.

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Speaker 4: You know, Arthur is not rigid and what he's doing.

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Speaker 5: He wants to tailor the scheme to the personnel that

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Speaker 5: you got when you bring in a King and gain Will,

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Speaker 5: bringing a Janui Smith, bringing DK Metcalf and myself with

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Speaker 5: some of the stuff I've done over the years. You know,

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Speaker 5: we're trying to find out what guys do best and

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Speaker 5: implement that in the offense. So I love that about

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Speaker 5: Arthur to work to keep doing that.

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Speaker 2: Birthday today, what are you looking forward to not.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I love throwing run solutions, you know, and

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Speaker 5: the boxes loaded, uh, and you have one on ones outside.

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Speaker 5: But today I'm gonna kind of let it go. I

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Speaker 5: haven't been a part of a true tackling period in

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Speaker 5: a long time, So there might be some times in

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Speaker 5: a game I might want to spit it out the

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Speaker 5: d K or Calvin, but today I might just added

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Speaker 5: off to jail and see what happens. Last time you were,

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Speaker 5: I was trying to rack my brain sit next to

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Speaker 5: aj over there. But it's been a long time. It's

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Speaker 5: been Uh, it's got to be you know, over a decade.

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Speaker 2: You think people were overlooking Jalen Warren with the with

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Speaker 2: the rookie in the backfield Caleb Johnson.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the what the narratives are out there,

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Speaker 5: but Jalen's super smart.

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Speaker 4: Uh, just from.

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Speaker 5: Playing against him, I know he was a great change

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Speaker 5: up back. He was great in protection, great on third downs.

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Speaker 5: But I think it give me a free down back.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's the biggest commenty you can give a

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Speaker 5: running back.

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Speaker 2: How does this defense help you guys improve?

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Speaker 5: We haven't had bads on yet, but I like what

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Speaker 5: I've seen on some old flips.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how how how does the defense helped you guys improve?

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Speaker 5: It seem like they're giving you guys a lot of

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Speaker 5: looks and you're doing that back.

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Speaker 2: How have you seen you guys this chemistry improve against them?

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Speaker 5: I mean they played pretty soft the first four days,

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Speaker 5: so you know, there's a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 5: checkdowns and different things. But you got a lot of

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Speaker 5: players outside the ball. You know, obviously you brought in Jalen,

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Speaker 5: I got multiple guys that can rush, got a good

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Speaker 5: interior rush, got great linebackers who are multiple, can cover

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Speaker 5: and pressure and and fill holes. So you know it's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a good test for us. I think for

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Speaker 5: any offense, it's kind of trying to find our footing

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Speaker 5: as we are.

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Speaker 4: Uh, it's not a bad thing to get beat up

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Speaker 4: a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So if if we were out there today and they

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Speaker 5: kind of get after us a little bit, that'll be

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Speaker 5: the best thing for us. So you're not hoping for

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Speaker 5: that because you want to have great practices, but you know,

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Speaker 5: sometimes you can learn more from from the failures in

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Speaker 5: training camp than getting after him every single day.

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Speaker 2: Talked.

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Speaker 4: Well, it starts with Zach. I mean, Zach is a

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Speaker 4: highly intelligent player.

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Speaker 5: And it helps because as much as I have a

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Speaker 5: good feel for the offense, I'm not what I would

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Speaker 5: call an expert.

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Speaker 4: Of the offense yet uh becoming expert.

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Speaker 5: I have a I'm an expert when you break the

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Speaker 5: huddle and you can see the picture of your mind,

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Speaker 5: and every now and then the picture is a little

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Speaker 5: fuzzy still. So I'm still working some things out. But

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Speaker 5: Zach is so freaking smart. He's making some calls for me.

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Speaker 5: I told me, I said, don't get used to that.

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Speaker 5: I said, some point, I'm gonna I'm gonna be making

875
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 5: the calls for you. But but he's got a really

876
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 5: good disposition for a center.

877
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: He's obviously a talented player, and I think his.

878
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 5: Leadership is what I'd like to say most continue to

879
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 5: grow because the leadership often grows at the same rate

880
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 5: as a performance.

881
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 4: And everybody knows what kind of player he is. So

882
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: he's gonna have more opportunities to lead for a fight today.

883
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 5: Because if you watch the first four days, there was

884
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 5: two matchups that they brought out a little bit of angst,

885
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 5: shall we say, And when he gets those big West

886
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 5: Virginia palls on somebody that could definitely start something.

887
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: In the offense. How long does that process take for

888
00:39:59,239 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 4: you too?

889
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: Starts a picture come in a little bit more clearly

890
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: at the snap.

891
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 4: To me, don't want to have it down right end

892
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 4: this week, but we'll see.

893
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: You're getting to know Jalen Ramsey at all.

894
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 5: How he as a t He's a tempo violator in

895
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 5: the walkthroughs, I no, I like, I like Dayla.

896
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: I have a ton of respect for him what he's

897
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 4: accomplished in his career. He's a very versatile guy.

898
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 5: I was telling him we were walking to to Caps

899
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 5: one of these days, and I was reminded him how

900
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 5: Charles Woodson late in his career moved to safety. And

901
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 5: there's you know, truly only a few elite guys who

902
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 5: have done everything that he's done. If you think about it,

903
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 5: you can play outside corner and dominate, you can play

904
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 5: nickel and dominate, and then go to safety and be a

905
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 5: dominant player. And I think he can do all three

906
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 5: of those things all right.

907
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: Thank you.

908
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey. The tempo disruptor, tempo violent, tempe of violator.

909
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: That's the right part of me. I like it.

910
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good rhythm. Let's get a tempo going.

911
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: To make a play, And there unfortunately was too much

912
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: of that the first few days for the offense. As

913
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: we've mentioned, though certainly their best day so far today.

914
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: And I thought at the same time too, not that

915
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 2: he's been bad or anything, but I thought Aaron Rodgers

916
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: looked the most like doing Aaron Rodgers things that we

917
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: had seen so far.

918
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and his interviews are great. I mean he's so

919
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: well spoken, he's so intelligent, and his experience and better

920
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: on the block and frankness at times too, like, yeah,

921
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: we've done tackling in a long time, and no matter

922
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 3: where I've been, really shines through. But one thing that

923
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 3: stood out to me too is, like all of our

924
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: listeners know, Zach Fraser had a very successful you know,

925
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 3: rookie year gets his big West Virginia pause on it.

926
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: You put to the ground. He's a wrestler. I mean,

927
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: he's a really good, rugged football player, but you would

928
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: assume being from WVU, he probably isn't all that bright,

929
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: you know, And.

930
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: Just like a certain certain Steelers Nation radio.

931
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: Co host, and obviously it's quite the difference, you know,

932
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: And I gotta kick out of rogers, being like, don't

933
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: get too used to making those calls. Yeah, I'm supposed

934
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: to take that shining wheels off around right. Yeah, you'd

935
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: think a mountaineer wouldn't be all that right.

936
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because you pick guys all make

937
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: the same jokes. Because Bob Labriola said the same thing

938
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: to me earlier. When Zach made his commitment at WU

939
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: his senior year of high school, he only had two

940
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: schools his final two schools, Like when he you know,

941
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: did the hat and the W and Stanford really so

942
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: he was. I mean, Stanford is one of those schools.

943
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: They're not just taking anybody as a football player. You

944
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: got to be pretty bright. You got to castro the

945
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: castro types of the world exactly right.

946
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: Kidding aside, Intelligence at the offensive line position, especially center,

947
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: is really really high on our list of.

948
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: Attributes, especially at that position, especially you've got it. You've

949
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: got to be the quarterback, second set of eyes.

950
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and things happened really fast. You got to adjust

951
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: on it all the time. You got to adjust to

952
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: different opponents. One thing I learned with my time from

953
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 3: the Browns, and this came directly from the Ravens because

954
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: Phil Savage I wouldn't have been It's a big Ravens ism,

955
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: but it's it's not unique anymore. I mean, this was

956
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 3: twenty years ago. If you're tough and you're smart, it's

957
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: really hard to get you out of the lineup as

958
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 3: an offensive lineman. Ye in an offensive line starved league.

959
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 3: Give me the baseline athleticism and tough and smart. You'll

960
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 3: probably retire a millionaire, you.

961
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: Know, right exactly, Even if you're not, you know, all

962
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: pro and pro bowler, you're gonna make.

963
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 3: It hard to get out of you make you're gonna

964
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 3: be on the squad for a long time.

965
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough and smart, I'm I'm totally with it.

966
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: In fact, if you don't have either, you're in big trouble.

967
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: You for it very hard. Yeah, no, absolutely, you gotta

968
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: love that. And yeah, I man, what a the quarterbacks

969
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: that Zach has gotten to work with so far short

970
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: in his career. I mean a good point, A guy

971
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: like Aaron Rodgers, who's one of the best to ever

972
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: do it and certainly cerebral above the brain. Sure, even

973
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: someone Russell Wilson who has it not to that level,

974
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: but he's a potential Hall of Famer. He's a super

975
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: Bowl champion in his own right. He is one of

976
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: the better, maybe not best, but one of the better

977
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in NFL.

978
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: History last ten years for sure. Right.

979
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then even a guy like Justin Field's high pedigree, difference,

980
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: skill set, you got to spend some time with him.

981
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: I think that really tide to play with so many

982
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: different guys. Maybe Fraser helps stabilize fields, you know, like

983
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: you get to actually work at the center that.

984
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: He could take cold.

985
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, not to get you too excited, I mean, Fraser

986
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: is even gonna better with all the metal stuff. I

987
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: mean it's a thousand.

988
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: Hundred every center is, you know, yeah, without a doubt,

989
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: and Howers.

990
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: Johnson Barton, all those guys are gonna be way better

991
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: in the second.

992
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: Year, at least at least they better, right, But yeah, no,

993
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 2: you're absolute right. The game will it starts to slow down,

994
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: Things start to slow down. You've been in those stadiums before.

995
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: You've seen, uh, you know, the the a attack you yeah,

996
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: that you call him, right, wasn't that your term? The

997
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: apex predators of the defensive velosci raptors. That's what you

998
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: go with one.

999
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: Thing I'll do is like they're just a variety of

1000
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: ferocious animals you need to block. Like you're in charge

1001
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: of blocking this mako shark. You're in charge of blocking

1002
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: this grizzly bear.

1003
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: You get a t rex.

1004
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you get a rhinoceros, you know, like all right,

1005
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: great sounds good, all.

1006
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: Right, I'll be good to go. I'm gonna get myself

1007
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: ready for Sunday.

1008
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: You're a cheetah, you know.

1009
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna get ourselves ready for the final

1010
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Speaker 2: hour of the show. More tweets, more conversation as we

1011
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: roll along here into the bonus hour of The Drive

1012
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: on campus. It's all part of our ongoing training camp coverage.

1013
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Speaker 2: Well Shooler Matt Williamson The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

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