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Speaker 6: This will not be a bland show. We are not
Speaker 6: clowning around today, people.
Speaker 1: Oh, not clowning around, not signing clowney quite yet either that.
Speaker 4: Oh you got that from that? It's interested. I heard
Speaker 4: the set up.
Speaker 6: Well, at least at least the show won't be bland.
Speaker 4: Well that's oh no, So you're full of them today?
Speaker 4: How many of you got in you today? Just tickling
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Speaker 5: Starting, a real hot starting, really.
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Speaker 5: No, it will not be a bland show.
Speaker 4: I won't that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say, Isaiah has already done news.
Speaker 6: What happened notes just a couple of points to Davion,
Speaker 6: Clowney had a very extensive and lengthy visit with the
Speaker 6: cowboys when you was here all.
Speaker 7: Day, lengthy, much like himself, tall guy.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm glad you kept going because my work.
Speaker 5: They keep going.
Speaker 6: Get so. It was a very extended visit with the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: Guys are checking, which is a positive sign. However, he
Speaker 6: did leave the building without a deal. Of course, that
Speaker 6: doesn't mean that old deal cannot be agreed upun.
Speaker 4: Maybe it came down to that base salary conversation that
Speaker 4: we had. I'm willing willing to bet it did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, price change, buddy, I might be more close, closer
Speaker 1: to the price I was talking about. Well, the price
Speaker 1: from one side, yes, maybe not the price for the
Speaker 1: other side very much. Yeah, the price from Clowney at
Speaker 1: the moment is probably still decently high, yes, because they're
Speaker 1: gonna try and squeeze every little penny out of absolutely.
Speaker 1: But then you turn around and you say, oh, it's
Speaker 1: already week two of the season.
Speaker 5: He's not gonna play this week.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be inactive this week anyways, whether or not
Speaker 1: he's on the active.
Speaker 5: Roster or not.
Speaker 1: So why waste time and throw him on the roster
Speaker 1: right now when you can sign a Monday and you
Speaker 1: skip a game check from a contract standpoint, very true.
Speaker 6: So does not preclude little him leaving, does not preclude
Speaker 6: a deal getting done. Could still get done in the
Speaker 6: next few days. There is still mutual interest on both sides.
Speaker 6: We'll just see where it goes at this point. As
Speaker 6: far as deron Bland, he showed up on what was
Speaker 6: otherwise a very short and abbreviated injury report, which is
Speaker 6: great news for the Cowboys. They only had two guys
Speaker 6: on the injury report. Malie Hooker returned to practice. He
Speaker 6: was limited with a foot issue, but he did participate
Speaker 6: in summer practice. Darron Bland obviously the headliner there because
Speaker 6: he will be absent upwards of a.
Speaker 4: Couple of weeks.
Speaker 7: I don't like that.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't. It's not likable.
Speaker 7: It's like like, so stop saying those words.
Speaker 4: So he got one game with if only it could.
Speaker 6: After the Universe last year, the Universe continues to conspire
Speaker 6: against Trayvon Diggs and Deron Bland being on the field
Speaker 6: at the same time for an extended period of time.
Speaker 6: So we'll see it's going to be based upon or
Speaker 6: I should say, his absence will be based upon how
Speaker 6: quick he can rehab and get back.
Speaker 4: But as it stands, you know, it's just a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks, is what I'm told. No, that's all. So
Speaker 4: who steps into that role?
Speaker 6: Well, now you're looking at maybe ready Steward Zion Childress
Speaker 6: is ready for a call up on the practice squads.
Speaker 1: Because you'll probably see digs pitch count go up, see
Speaker 1: his snaps go up immediately going up. Whether I mean
Speaker 1: he's ready they he wasn't even on the injury report
Speaker 1: ramping him up.
Speaker 5: He feels good.
Speaker 1: I think his his snaps just have to take a
Speaker 1: take a spike. And then you've got Kyrie Elam on
Speaker 1: the outside other sideline, and then you're going to mix
Speaker 1: some match some guys in this.
Speaker 7: I like Zion.
Speaker 4: What percentage last week did he plays on.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent of thirty three dropbacks from Jalen Hurts?
Speaker 4: Interesting? Yeah, don't see that changing now.
Speaker 6: Now there's a fun conversation yesterday yeah, I was about to.
Speaker 1: Say that was part of the conversation yesterday. Anyways, yesterday,
Speaker 1: ibra Flus likes his zone. He likes running zone. He
Speaker 1: ran at a lot in Chicago, eighty percent. In Chicago,
Speaker 1: he was fourth in the league in terms of running
Speaker 1: zone before he lost his job as head coach. And
Speaker 1: I mean they by the way, there was another stat.
Speaker 1: I pulled it up after the show. I got upstairs
Speaker 1: and usually I plug in my laptop and whatever I
Speaker 1: had on the show was on my laptop.
Speaker 5: There was a stat.
Speaker 1: I'll find it exactly if you guys are really interested
Speaker 1: in it, but it was talking about how it struggled.
Speaker 1: The Bears defense struggled mightily after the drop off and
Speaker 1: after they let ebra Flues go. So they played much
Speaker 1: better in that zone defense and as zebra Flues was
Speaker 1: the play caller than they did post ebra Flues in
Speaker 1: the latter parts of the season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we'll I mean, like I said, it was
Speaker 6: a great conversation yesterday, and then news of deron Blank
Speaker 6: came yesterday afternoon and zone it is so yeah, those
Speaker 6: are the two key news and notes. No transactions yesterday,
Speaker 6: and we'll see what happens today. As far as how
Speaker 6: much more work when the cooker can do, and cross
Speaker 6: your fingers that no one else appears on the injury
Speaker 6: report for Thursday.
Speaker 7: I like that.
Speaker 8: I've heard a couple of we Sorry to interrupt, Isaiah,
Speaker 8: I just like that. I've heard only a couple of weeks,
Speaker 8: I mean grand and we don't have the full injury report.
Speaker 8: We don't have the full timetable of what it is
Speaker 8: for drum plan. I know we was seen wearing.
Speaker 7: A boot, but a couple of weeks is what I've heard,
Speaker 7: sort of on Twitter around the building. Yeah, I hope
Speaker 7: that's the case.
Speaker 4: And never one or I do.
Speaker 6: I do hope that's the case, and it feels like
Speaker 6: it can be the case if he if his foot
Speaker 6: responds well to rehab. I will also say this for
Speaker 6: those wondering, it is not the same foot that he
Speaker 6: suffered the stretch important, very important. This is not the
Speaker 6: same foot, so that that's going to help his case.
Speaker 6: But I wonder if there's some strategory in this considering
Speaker 6: the opponies. Now, not to overlook the Giants, not to
Speaker 6: overlook the Bears. These are NFL teams. It's a week
Speaker 6: to week league. You want to put your best foot
Speaker 6: forward every single time.
Speaker 4: But but I didn't even me to do that. No,
Speaker 4: you did it though. It was nice, it was done.
Speaker 6: Okay, But if you look at the timeline, a couple
Speaker 6: of weeks puts him back on the field against guess who.
Speaker 4: Guess who? The Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: So if you miss one or two games, is back
Speaker 1: on the field for that man, Matt, even if he
Speaker 1: misses three games. Though, there's no need to put him
Speaker 1: on IR because you.
Speaker 5: Know I have to keep him on IR right now.
Speaker 4: It doesn't look like an IR and so that's a
Speaker 4: positive question.
Speaker 5: It's not all positive, but that's the one positive.
Speaker 6: What are the possible scenarios that the Cowboys can utilize
Speaker 6: with having an now open roster spot?
Speaker 4: Well, there was only fifty two people on the roster
Speaker 4: as I know it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so there are several So okay, first thought before
Speaker 6: the Duran Bland injury was prior to the Jadeveon Clowney
Speaker 6: visit was, well, you got a guy like Ryan Flinoy
Speaker 6: who's sitting on the practice squad.
Speaker 4: He made the fifty three man roster.
Speaker 6: You only waved him because you need to play that
Speaker 6: numbers game with the defensive back situation. Right, so you
Speaker 6: got Bridges and you got Steward. Okay, cool, those two
Speaker 6: guys are already on the active roster. Another option would be,
Speaker 6: if you're going to be without Bland four a couple
Speaker 6: of weeks, maybe you do bring Zion Childrens to the
Speaker 6: active roster for those couple of weeks, because if you're
Speaker 6: looking at it from a strategic standpoint, it's it seems
Speaker 6: less likely that if you have to wave their childress
Speaker 6: of Flinoy that it would be I think the better
Speaker 6: bit will be the childress would clear clear right, but
Speaker 6: fluid is cleared, so you know who knows.
Speaker 4: But that would be the way that I play.
Speaker 6: Is it still considered a call up if there's an
Speaker 6: open spot, now, just know it's them signing you to
Speaker 6: the act active roster. Got you now sign practice quer.
Speaker 6: So what you're saying is you can sign that person
Speaker 6: to the active roster from your practice squad, but it's
Speaker 6: not a call up. Yes, and then when you no
Speaker 6: longer need their services, you need that roster spot back
Speaker 6: you feel it, you know with another player, you can
Speaker 6: release that player. They will clear waivers, potentially clear waivers.
Speaker 6: And the intention is that I guess that you can
Speaker 6: bring them back to your practice squad and you still
Speaker 6: have all those correct call ups. Well, unless you release
Speaker 6: a so release versus waving. If you release a veteran
Speaker 6: from the active fifty, then there's wavers. Then you can
Speaker 6: gentlemen agree. You can handshake agreement with him, right because
Speaker 6: it's just like, Okay, we're going to release you, we'll
Speaker 6: bring tight, we'll have you on the practice squad, give
Speaker 6: us a couple of weeks, maybe we'll reactivate you to
Speaker 6: the fifty three man roster. There's not a lot of
Speaker 6: guys like exactly. But when you're waiving someone who's not
Speaker 6: a vested veteran, you have to risk losing them to
Speaker 6: the other thirty.
Speaker 4: And at what point are you vested again? Just for
Speaker 4: the three crude season, four crude seasons for four season?
Speaker 8: Good question in the chat though, Braylan, what's up with Carson?
Speaker 8: What's up with kaling Carson?
Speaker 4: Not quite yet, Kayln.
Speaker 6: Carson is on IR still still so minimum four games,
Speaker 6: we're still strapped in.
Speaker 8: But how is he looking out? I mean, is he
Speaker 8: doing workouts? Like what we are you seeing from him
Speaker 8: out there?
Speaker 6: Well, he's doing some sideline work with the rehab group
Speaker 6: and the rehab group being like the Marveion Overshown, Josh Butler,
Speaker 6: Uh Savone, Revel and the like three cornerbacks that are
Speaker 6: doing rehab.
Speaker 4: Well, now four four if you're counting Blank.
Speaker 6: If that, But prior to Bland, you had three guys
Speaker 6: that were doing rehab, Revel, Reelson, Butler, and.
Speaker 4: Now Deron Blank. So yeah, your defensive back room is
Speaker 4: not great.
Speaker 6: But I guess, like I said, you're about to see
Speaker 6: what a guy like Stewart and Bridges can bring to
Speaker 6: the table. And hopefully Childress. I would love to see
Speaker 6: childrens like especially. I feel like if you're going to
Speaker 6: give Zion a chance as a rookie, the Giants would
Speaker 6: be a good a good opponent to the proving grounds,
Speaker 6: a good confidence builder if he can, if he can
Speaker 6: get them.
Speaker 4: What can you tell them he was on the Bridges
Speaker 4: because he wasn't with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Bridges and uh Stewart both came in at
Speaker 1: the same time.
Speaker 4: We kind of they were both playing off waivers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 6: I'm just ask him because the people he was not
Speaker 6: here during camp, he wasn't here for the preseason, so
Speaker 6: the fans have not seen him.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen I mean, we haven't seen him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we can't have any expectations of these guys
Speaker 6: making contributions without understanding what they bring.
Speaker 4: To the table.
Speaker 6: Six to two hundred pounds, big corner. Yeah, he's lengthy.
Speaker 7: Shout, lengthy shouts.
Speaker 4: The hoodie and heavy.
Speaker 8: From debasement Boys entered the Chat.
Speaker 6: Of six hundred pounds out of Florida in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 6: seventh round pick of the Chargers. He was a transfer
Speaker 6: to Florida after several seasons with Oregon. So no stranger
Speaker 6: to the big Lights, right, I just really.
Speaker 4: I had to say Florida. I know you understand.
Speaker 6: So lengthy guy started with the Chargers, couldn't crack from
Speaker 6: their practice squad, and now in twenty twenty five, his
Speaker 6: second year in the league, he's now with the Cowboys,
Speaker 6: claimed off of waivers from when the Chargers waived him
Speaker 6: during final roster goods.
Speaker 1: And he was a seventh round pick this year, so
Speaker 1: he's still a rookie. He has never played yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so you've never yeah the uh yeah, Bridges has never
Speaker 1: played in an NFL game, And I believe Stewart was
Speaker 1: only like seventeen snaps.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like period like to really no no inexperienced guys. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and another in Zion.
Speaker 4: Another inexperienced guy. You got a lot of inexperience.
Speaker 8: At least you know what you're getting because he's played
Speaker 8: on this team. Yeah, training camp wise, you saw what
Speaker 8: he gave. I mean, like I said, he was on
Speaker 8: my fifty three person Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's an element to that that Zion
Speaker 1: probably would be our choice.
Speaker 5: Yes, but remember they've seen Bridges, They scouted Bridges.
Speaker 4: Sure, they had a.
Speaker 1: Draft grade on him enough to pluck him from waivers.
Speaker 1: He's on their active way and he's on the active.
Speaker 6: ROSTEROL department over there have done more than their fair
Speaker 6: share of research. They know a lot more about those
Speaker 6: guys than we do sitting here at this table. But
Speaker 6: just for the you know, just for the conversation for fans,
Speaker 6: in terms of seeing these guys on the field, you're
Speaker 6: going to see them, Yeah, what are they bringing to
Speaker 6: your to your defense?
Speaker 1: M what's the likelihood that we do see You talked
Speaker 1: about mutual interest, do you feel like with the bland
Speaker 1: injury but not an IR spot so he doesn't open
Speaker 1: up a roster spot. Do you think it's more likely
Speaker 1: you see a corner fill that spot or do you
Speaker 1: feel like it's it's going to be still open for
Speaker 1: a guy like a Jadavian Clowney in an outside.
Speaker 6: I think right now is we have this conversation on
Speaker 6: Thursday Preseed in the Sunday game, and I don't see
Speaker 6: them sign for the one of the reasons you said,
Speaker 6: I don't see that, there's.
Speaker 5: No really do it.
Speaker 6: You let them leave right now, now, right, you let
Speaker 6: them leave the building. Okay, so you can make a
Speaker 6: move next week if you revisit on Monday, But right
Speaker 6: now it's about now getting prepared for the Giants. I
Speaker 6: would say the greater likelihood is that they use that
Speaker 6: roster spot on a corner back. Yeah, and then on
Speaker 6: Monday you revisit the whole roster situation as far as
Speaker 6: Advion Clowney versus you know, how is doing after several
Speaker 6: days of rehab, and you kind of have that conversation
Speaker 6: then yeah, like all right, good.
Speaker 1: Talk, good talk. Yeahs formative, Yeah, I mean it's important
Speaker 1: you're gonna see that. I mean, think about it. Right
Speaker 1: from the fans perspectives, we know the people listen to
Speaker 1: the show. Real fans, when you see these guys on
Speaker 1: the field, you don't want to be like, who the
Speaker 1: heck is at?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you want to know, like, Okay, these
Speaker 6: guys are on the field. Obviously the organization trust them.
Speaker 6: What are they bringing to the table? What's the expectation?
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Speaker 6: All right, guys, were not new season, new opponent, Dallas
Speaker 6: Cowboys versus the Giants.
Speaker 4: What do we know about the Giants?
Speaker 7: How?
Speaker 4: What do you respect about the Giants defense?
Speaker 6: Well, I think we all can be together in this
Speaker 6: and say what position group defensive line D line is
Speaker 6: absolutely disgusting. That's the one portion of their team that
Speaker 6: they said, all right, if we can have one team
Speaker 6: of Avengers, one grouping is gonna be the defensive line.
Speaker 4: Who is on that defensive line? Well, well, well.
Speaker 6: Starts off with the big fella Dex Lawrence aka Sexy DEXI.
Speaker 4: Is what still call.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's still playing and he's still a problem. He's
Speaker 6: number ninety seven. For those that are at home keeping track,
Speaker 6: who else do they have on that D line that
Speaker 6: is notable. That's not to say that all their guys
Speaker 6: can't play, but you need to be concerned about ninety seven.
Speaker 4: You also need to circle number zero, number zero.
Speaker 5: Mister beans.
Speaker 1: Where did mister Burns come from? He came from Carolina
Speaker 1: and a trade he was. He's a dude, He's an
Speaker 1: absolute dude. Then they say, you know what, that's not enough.
Speaker 1: We need to have somebody to play opposite of mister Burns.
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and draft somebody by the name
Speaker 1: of abdul Kartja number fifty one. So fifty one, zero,
Speaker 1: ninety seven, those are the guys.
Speaker 7: Oh oh, miss I'm missing somebody.
Speaker 1: There's somebody else who wears a single digit out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that guy, Hi Cavon Thibodeau. He's a dude as well.
Speaker 1: So they have some guys that can get after the quarterback.
Speaker 1: They have Sexy Dexi in the middle.
Speaker 6: That is a big fella, and he can stop the
Speaker 6: run as well as pass rush from the interior because
Speaker 6: he is a he's a handful of he's a handful.
Speaker 4: He's too.
Speaker 6: A matter of fact, he's four handfuls because you need
Speaker 6: two guys to go ahead and block him. He's an absolute
Speaker 6: problem in the middle of that defense. And at the
Speaker 6: second level they have some respectable guys as well, Bobby
Speaker 6: Bobby Ocaka. I like the way that he plays. Outside
Speaker 6: of that, not a lot, not a lot going on there.
Speaker 6: That's that's enough, right, that's enough. You're your front five
Speaker 6: are going to have their hands full in terms of
Speaker 6: trying to stop that assault up front.
Speaker 4: One on one blocks or.
Speaker 6: A problem because Dexter Lawrence forces you to have one
Speaker 6: on one blocks. If he is up there with three
Speaker 6: other defensive linemen, he requires two guys.
Speaker 4: There's there.
Speaker 6: I'm no disrespect to Cooper BB, but Cooper BB, you
Speaker 6: need more people. You need more people you're not gonna
Speaker 6: be able to block him by j Listen, I don't like,
Speaker 6: I don't tell any man what he's can or can't do,
Speaker 6: but I'm just gonna says probably it's probable that you're
Speaker 6: gonna need some extra assistance with Dexter Lawrence. Okay, so
Speaker 6: now all of a sudden, you're taking either a Tyler
Speaker 6: Booker or you're taking a Tyler Smith and you're using
Speaker 6: them to.
Speaker 4: Help Cooper Bebie.
Speaker 6: Now the other four guys, the other three guys are
Speaker 6: now isoed on Thibodeaux, Burns and.
Speaker 4: Carter and Carter, it's a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 6: So you're gonna have to win your one on one
Speaker 6: matchups as offensive linemen. But what do they do outside
Speaker 6: of past rush? Okay, well, they coverage is slim to none.
Speaker 7: I don't non existent or I don't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't have a high regard for their coverage ability.
Speaker 6: And it's interesting because they don't have any guys that
Speaker 6: are very notable. Okay, obviously they're starters in the NFL,
Speaker 6: so they have there's some respect that needs to be
Speaker 6: put on their name. But as you turn on the
Speaker 6: film from last week, because that's the body of work
Speaker 6: that we have for the twenty twenty five season, they
Speaker 6: play a ton of single high safety. There is seemingly
Speaker 6: a false sense of confidence in their corners and DB's
Speaker 6: abilities to play play one on one play banded man coverage.
Speaker 6: I don't understand where it's stemming from. I'm not sure
Speaker 6: if it comes from OTA's camp or what they obviously
Speaker 6: see something that we're not seeing on film, but they
Speaker 6: want to play single high, they want to play man. Now,
Speaker 6: when you look at next Gen Stats, that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 6: back my sentiments, but we differ on that. Okay, when
Speaker 6: I watched the film, I see a ton of man
Speaker 6: the man. When whoever's running next Gen Stats season they
Speaker 6: say they're only playing forty percent man and they're playing.
Speaker 5: Thirty percent zone.
Speaker 6: Yeah, sixty percent zone, thirty five percent Cover three. But
Speaker 6: what happens is whenever you're in cover three, which is
Speaker 6: a single high zone defense, depending on the route concepts,
Speaker 6: it pretty much turns into man looks. So they start
Speaker 6: off as it might start off as three and as
Speaker 6: a zone, but it turns into man. So next Gen
Speaker 6: Stats will we will we will agree to disagree on that.
Speaker 6: I think it's more like seventy five percent man. Even
Speaker 6: when they go to high safeties, they're still running to
Speaker 6: man if they have a receiver. As of last week,
Speaker 6: since in terms of scary terry, when they went too
Speaker 6: high safety, they roll that safety to the other side.
Speaker 6: Sometimes they even play single high safety and they roll
Speaker 6: that safety to the other side, even if it was
Speaker 6: to the boundary. So I don't know how they approached
Speaker 6: Dallas in that regard. Obviously, Cede Lamb had over one
Speaker 6: hundred yards last week one ten on seven catches. Pickens
Speaker 6: had three catches last week for thirty yards four attempts.
Speaker 6: I don't foresee them just leaning over the city Lamb side. However,
Speaker 6: we'll see I do foresee them trying to continue to
Speaker 6: play mando man and continue to play cover three. The
Speaker 6: reason being is because in their head, if they play
Speaker 6: man to man and they played cover three, they can
Speaker 6: get home with their front four. That's why most teams
Speaker 6: play man to man. That's why Dan Quinn with Washington
Speaker 6: Commanders playing against the New York Giants, as I watched
Speaker 6: him play man to man because he felt as if
Speaker 6: his guys can get home, there's a bolt of confidence there.
Speaker 6: I don't see it for the giants. Do they blitz
Speaker 6: a lot? Nope, they don't blitz a lot. And when
Speaker 6: they do blitz, from what we've seen on film and
Speaker 6: this one week's body of work, they bring one guy
Speaker 6: that means that for down lineman plus one guy at
Speaker 6: the second level. Last time I checked, that's five guys,
Speaker 6: and you have five guys up front. But however, I
Speaker 6: told you guys, the maths not math. And because how
Speaker 6: many guys is to take the block Dexter Laurren, two
Speaker 6: is too so now all of a sudden is really
Speaker 6: five on four. So understand that's how they get pressure.
Speaker 6: But at their foundation they feel as if they can
Speaker 6: get home and somehow, some way they feel as if
Speaker 6: they can guard you man to man or form of cover.
Speaker 4: Three.
Speaker 8: Now I like this, thank you for QB vision. All
Speaker 8: respect in the world to defensive coordinator Shane Bowen, yep,
Speaker 8: I don't understand his pedigree. I don't know necessarily what
Speaker 8: he's doing with his rotation, like you just said, Burns,
Speaker 8: Lawrence Thibodeau, Abdul Carter, who's behind them?
Speaker 7: I really don't know. But guess what you know?
Speaker 4: One Chauncey goes Chauncy.
Speaker 8: You know Chauncey may have overpaid him a little bit,
Speaker 8: who knows. But of those four guys that I just mentioned,
Speaker 8: they were on the field at the same time for
Speaker 8: six snaps.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't put them all out there.
Speaker 8: Twelve percent of all of their decent defensive snaps, they
Speaker 8: had their four best guys on the field.
Speaker 7: I think that is a problem with the rotation. I
Speaker 7: don't know what the.
Speaker 8: Philosophy is there with Shane bow Maybe he's just trying
Speaker 8: to keep his guys fresh. But in clear passing downs
Speaker 8: you want those guys out well.
Speaker 1: Maybe the thought process is if you put them all
Speaker 1: out there for every snap together, then you have to
Speaker 1: have time and that's when things happen. So you would
Speaker 1: rather have a mixed match of a couple of those guys,
Speaker 1: guys like Thibodeau and Lawrence on one play with it
Speaker 1: and you turn it around, and then it's Burns and
Speaker 1: Carter on another play, and you.
Speaker 5: Go back and forth.
Speaker 8: But he wasn't doing it on clear passing for sure.
Speaker 8: In clear situations where what they need to do is
Speaker 8: where what the commanders needed to do was rely on
Speaker 8: the pass, they didn't put them out there together.
Speaker 7: I think that's a big.
Speaker 6: Problem of those five guys kind of have five guys
Speaker 6: that you need to circle. Five guys that can that
Speaker 6: can wreck your day if you allow them to write
Speaker 6: exactly for them are defensive ends. Yes, So that's why
Speaker 6: that rotation is messed up, right, And Shamee Bowan has
Speaker 6: not shown that he's creative enough to put all five
Speaker 6: of those guys out there to create problems for.
Speaker 4: Their posing off.
Speaker 6: So this goes to something that I was saying when
Speaker 6: comparing and contrasting the Week one matchup versus the Eagles
Speaker 6: versus the Week two matches versus the Giants the defensive lines.
Speaker 6: They both have dudes, but their dudes are in different spots.
Speaker 6: The Eagles are heavy on the interior, light on the ends.
Speaker 6: The Giants are heavy on the ends. Dexter Lawrence notwithstanding
Speaker 6: fairly light on the interior. Deathwise, this is going to
Speaker 6: be a game where the Cowboys can run the ball.
Speaker 4: They can run the ball.
Speaker 6: I'm going to read you some of these averages allowed
Speaker 6: by both the ends. I'm talking to abdu Card, I'm
Speaker 6: talking Thibodau, I'm also talking Dexter Lawrence. I'm just going
Speaker 6: to go down some of these This is yards rushing
Speaker 6: yards allowed per play when these guys were on the field.
Speaker 6: Six point nine. That's abdual card. Seven point zero, that's Thibodeaux.
Speaker 6: Where do we go from here? Ediebell, he's a cornerback,
Speaker 6: don't worried about Himlet's roach at seven point one yards allowed.
Speaker 6: Brian Burns, you brought him up, he's a linebacker. Seven
Speaker 6: yards allowed on the run, Dexter Lawrence seven point nine.
Speaker 6: They don't defend the run well because they don't have
Speaker 6: the beef in the middle that the Eagles did.
Speaker 4: And the Eagles still.
Speaker 6: At least in the first half, struggled to stop that
Speaker 6: push from this offensive line. I think the Cowboys can
Speaker 6: establish the run in this game. And then what does
Speaker 6: that do neutralize this the pass rush? So now when
Speaker 6: you drop back in the pass rush, now they have
Speaker 6: to account for play action. You're now sterilizing those guys
Speaker 6: on the end because now they're wondering that second thought,
Speaker 6: do I go straight after Dak or do I kind
Speaker 6: of drop back and read the play?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: Got you? So now you get to throw the ball
Speaker 4: all over the field.
Speaker 6: And as Isaiah said and his wonderful QB vision segment,
Speaker 6: coverage is an issue for them.
Speaker 7: So this game second level is just non exist.
Speaker 6: This is genuine a game that can literally go run
Speaker 6: the ball because you can run it here, play action
Speaker 6: and then just pitch it all over the field.
Speaker 5: I've got a stat that I'm going to read you,
Speaker 5: and I want you to I want you.
Speaker 1: To just give me your reaction. What does this tell
Speaker 1: you about the Giants defense? Giants had three sacks in
Speaker 1: Week one, so significant, and like Isaiah said, there are
Speaker 1: five guys that can wreck your game. That's why is
Speaker 1: because they can finish in the backfield. Week one only
Speaker 1: a twenty one point six percent pressure rate on dropbacks.
Speaker 1: That's according to the NFL Next Gen Stats. That's the
Speaker 1: third lowest quarterback pressure percentage in Week one, behind only
Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Titans. So even though there are sacks,
Speaker 1: they come on certain plays. They come on one of
Speaker 1: those guys makes an individual effort or the coverage was
Speaker 1: just good enough, which didn't I think I only happened
Speaker 1: once yea out of the three sacks in Week one,
Speaker 1: So what that tells me is avoid the big play.
Speaker 5: Defensively and you're gonna be just fine.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to piece together this whole thing,
Speaker 1: because even what they're trying to build their defense around,
Speaker 1: that defensive line, that pass rush, the edge rushers, the
Speaker 1: depth there, they.
Speaker 5: Still aren't getting in the backfield. They're not pressure.
Speaker 6: Your point about Cooper Bebe, who's playing very well, and
Speaker 6: he's coming off an exceptional training camp and a very
Speaker 6: solid year as a center. Last year in transitioning Dexter Lawrence
Speaker 6: was double teamed by the Commanders eighteen times. That's almost
Speaker 6: seventy percent of the time that and you Better is
Speaker 6: on the field. Yeah, he was double team next closest.
Speaker 5: Four you Better.
Speaker 6: So you're You're right, We love you, but you're probably
Speaker 6: going to need Yeah, I have bold prediction.
Speaker 5: Oh have our first bold prediction season.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say it with my chest even though it's
Speaker 6: not Friday. Please do Okay, I was going to back it,
Speaker 6: back it off of it. I'm like, no, I honestly
Speaker 6: think this is a game where Ceedee Lamb has one
Speaker 6: fifteen and George Pickins has one twenty five.
Speaker 4: The words that just came out of your mouth delictable.
Speaker 4: I really do, I really do.
Speaker 8: How could you not collect with this coveragetile, But I'm
Speaker 8: entirely with.
Speaker 6: You there, Deebo Samuel was killing them on routes. Jayde
Speaker 6: Daniels honestly wasn't that accurate in this particular game. Had
Speaker 6: Jade and Daniels been more accurate, there is some huge
Speaker 6: plays that left out there. But I truly believe that
Speaker 6: this is a game where you get George Pickens going
Speaker 6: early and Ceedee Lamb is a benefactor as well. I
Speaker 6: think this is one of those games where you think
Speaker 6: it's going to be CD, you go to George and
Speaker 6: now you have teams guessing right. That'll be my strategy.
Speaker 6: If I'm shoty every week, which one is it going
Speaker 6: to be?
Speaker 8: And if you have a quarterback that's hitting on ninety
Speaker 8: percent of his throws, I think that's a boating well offense,
Speaker 8: especially for CD Lamb that's hungry to get back to
Speaker 8: the field after last week's.
Speaker 6: Q QB rating win targeted last week by Jay and Daniels,
Speaker 6: and like you said, Jay and Daniels didn't have the
Speaker 6: most perfect game, but still flot one oh two point
Speaker 6: nine QB rating when targeted, he had twenty four covered snaps.
Speaker 6: Andrew Phillips win targeted thirty one cover snaps ninety seven
Speaker 6: point five, Robertson Harris Win targeted it will targeted eighty
Speaker 6: three point three. So to your point, yeah, Pickens and
Speaker 6: Lamb and maybe even Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 7: Maybe even Turp why not?
Speaker 4: Why not? Why not?
Speaker 5: You guys are so funny. I'm looking at these sacks again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of them was out of the three sacks,
Speaker 1: one of them was a busted screen that just didn't work,
Speaker 1: and Jad and Daniels tried to get away. Second one
Speaker 1: coverage was good and he was able to kind of
Speaker 1: throw it off a little bit, and then I'm pulling
Speaker 1: up the third one. I went away. But whenever you
Speaker 1: look at those sacks and you go back and you
Speaker 1: watch them, it's guys making individual efforts. If your offensive
Speaker 1: line plays well, you're gonna piece, You're gonna pick apart
Speaker 1: this entire defense.
Speaker 4: And they only had two run stuffs the entire game.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, two that's not cool.
Speaker 7: You can one that's not very minute one and.
Speaker 4: Stop because well run the ball.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Commanders had over two hundred yards through the
Speaker 6: air and the ground.
Speaker 1: And yes, when we come back on talking Cowboys, we've
Speaker 1: talked about the passing game. You mentioned that you may
Speaker 1: want to try and run the ball here, Mike, question
Speaker 1: is who is gonna run the ball in two?
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Speaker 5: The Store, all right, terrible the run game.
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams is obviously the guy know Jaden Blue. Last
Speaker 1: week he was inactive. We haven't really talked about that
Speaker 1: as a significant talking point, but the fans are very adamant.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of comments earlier today talking about
Speaker 1: how they want to see Jaden Blue and they want
Speaker 1: to see his ability.
Speaker 5: To break free, for his ability with the speed the cuts.
Speaker 1: There is a consistency comment the juice suck out?
Speaker 4: The juice is there?
Speaker 1: The consistency comment from Brian Schottenheimer is what stuck stuck
Speaker 1: out to me saying they want to see more from him.
Speaker 5: What does that entail across the board?
Speaker 6: It's not the first time we've heard something like that
Speaker 6: in regards to Jaden. Didn't Blue early in camp? I
Speaker 6: too want Jaydon Blue. It something borrowed something Blue listen.
Speaker 6: So I think what Shoddy is is speaking on is
Speaker 6: something that when I had the conversation with Derek Foster
Speaker 6: running backs coach Derek Foster in training camp. It was
Speaker 6: a great conversation. I asked him straight up. I said, hey,
Speaker 6: I don't know if you've heard of the narrative surrounding
Speaker 6: Blue as far as lack of work, ethic, etc.
Speaker 4: Et cetera.
Speaker 6: He qualified it, or I should say he explained it
Speaker 6: in a great detail. But what he said was, Derek Foster,
Speaker 6: is that it's not lack of work ethic. He is
Speaker 6: he came in as prepared as a traditional rookie would
Speaker 6: have come in, and then he ran into what rookies
Speaker 6: traditional traditionally run into like, holy crap, this playbook is
Speaker 6: not this thing.
Speaker 4: It's this thing. I mean, Isaiah's brought his playbook, came
Speaker 4: before in good grief.
Speaker 7: Man sooks right, it's crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, size matter, size doesn't matter. Okay, the thicker
Speaker 6: the all right, listen. So when you talk about that,
Speaker 6: I think that James Blewis I'm not going to use
Speaker 6: the word struggling, but I think it's inconsistent based upon
Speaker 6: what we're hearing from the coaching staff and Brian Schottenheimer,
Speaker 6: not in the work ethic, but in the aspect of absorption.
Speaker 4: Maybe absorption.
Speaker 6: So Derrick Foster did say that he was learning to
Speaker 6: be appro and he said that there have been stretches
Speaker 6: of time this offseason wherein he's seen exactly what he
Speaker 6: needs to see from Jayden Blue. But I'm wondering now,
Speaker 6: being inactive last week, they've recently seen the other stretch
Speaker 6: where it's just like a little less prepared in the
Speaker 6: meeting rooms than they would have liked. So that's my
Speaker 6: speculation based upon what we're hearing from Shoddy, my conversation
Speaker 6: with Derek Foster, conversations I've had with jay and blue.
Speaker 6: I just think he's hitting the rookie hiccup right now.
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of speculation there. I no, no,
Speaker 6: I like this pretty bright I.
Speaker 5: Versus Big Blue, says pay play Jaden.
Speaker 4: Blue versus Big Blue. I want to see small blue,
Speaker 4: so listen it.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of things that coaches take into consideration
Speaker 6: when it in terms of of ensuring that a player is.
Speaker 4: Prepared for the matchup.
Speaker 6: It's not just running, no, So there's things that happen
Speaker 6: behind the scenes that we don't see. I don't know
Speaker 6: what they do here in Dallas, but I can give you,
Speaker 6: guys examples walk throughs, right walk throughs, and your understanding
Speaker 6: of taking what's being mentioned and gone over in the
Speaker 6: meeting rooms and then being able to go then walk
Speaker 6: through gives the coaches a boat of confidence or lack
Speaker 6: thereof Your reps in practice will give coaches an indication
Speaker 6: as to your ability to digest information and be able
Speaker 6: to apply it on the field.
Speaker 4: When I was in New England, we were all those things.
Speaker 6: And then you get a test that's given to you
Speaker 6: on the plane in the form of a packet where
Speaker 6: you have to draw up the responsibilities of the offensive line,
Speaker 6: draw up the responsibilities of the running backs, draw up
Speaker 6: the route concepts, and all these things. Right, So, I'm
Speaker 6: not sure what the Cowboys do, but I can tell
Speaker 6: you that if the coaches.
Speaker 4: I have belief that in the coaches.
Speaker 6: Especially with some of the moves they ate last week
Speaker 6: with inactives, that if they question anything in regards to
Speaker 6: preparation or focus or whatever it may be, that's not
Speaker 6: going to be to the benefit of the team. I
Speaker 6: don't doubt their decision making. I truly don't, because there's
Speaker 6: so many checkpoints that have to take place, and if
Speaker 6: you are a risk factor at all to the success
Speaker 6: of the team, one play We've seen it. We just
Speaker 6: saw it last week in last week's game with Baltimore. Yeah,
Speaker 6: one play can turn the tides of a game. So
Speaker 6: you're not going to put a guy out there if
Speaker 6: you don't have one hundred positive confidence that they can
Speaker 6: get the job done.
Speaker 1: There are two knocks on Jaden Blue coming out of
Speaker 1: Texas as a draft prospect. The first one was ball security. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: that was a big problem during his time in Texas.
Speaker 1: Has he had the chance to review that and improve
Speaker 1: upon that? Yet, we don't necessarily know because they're not
Speaker 1: stripping the football and making tackles in practice. So what
Speaker 1: we saw in training camp and what we saw in
Speaker 1: the one game in the preseason is all we have
Speaker 1: to go by, so we don't know if that's a
Speaker 1: problem or not at this point. The second one was
Speaker 1: pass protection. You can see what that looks like in
Speaker 1: practice and understanding of it, and the understanding of it.
Speaker 1: Missing an assignment can be the difference between a completed
Speaker 1: pass and a first down or Dak Prescott on his
Speaker 1: hind quarters.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the no.
Speaker 1: With the investment that you put in into these quarterbacks, yep,
Speaker 1: the investment that you have in your franchise, with that
Speaker 1: guy behind center with number four throwing the football to
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, George Pickens, Jake Ferguson, everybody else, you can't
Speaker 1: afford to have that one play because that one play
Speaker 1: if Blue miss is an assignment.
Speaker 5: Not saying that he would, but if they've seen it in.
Speaker 1: Practice, there's a short leash for that type of thing
Speaker 1: if you don't have an understanding. And that's why fans
Speaker 1: you have to be very hesitant to just jump the
Speaker 1: gun on some things, because there's things that we just
Speaker 1: don't know even sitting here, which respeculating exactly what it
Speaker 1: possibly could be. But we have understanding of some of
Speaker 1: the things that transpire behind the scenes that can contribute
Speaker 1: to the decisions made by the front office and the
Speaker 1: coaching staff.
Speaker 6: But to your point, God is a really good point.
Speaker 6: There are some things that we pointed out on air
Speaker 6: during the preseason broadcast Reduced Vaughan did an amazing job
Speaker 6: of understanding what the protections were and what his responsibilities were,
Speaker 6: to the point where he checked front side and then
Speaker 6: when nobody showed his eyes, immediately scanned all the way
Speaker 6: completely across offensive line to the backside and went and
Speaker 6: picked up his assignment. There are things like that that
Speaker 6: would I say, you have to have one hundred percent
Speaker 6: confidence that the person can execute their jobs. If that
Speaker 6: was the case for Blue, if he doesn't have that
Speaker 6: instinctual understanding of my responsibilities in the past blocking department,
Speaker 6: that's just one element that we that could be a potential.
Speaker 6: You're not going to put Dak Prescott in harm's way
Speaker 6: for that reason.
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
Speaker 6: I would also say, and this is not a counterpoint
Speaker 6: as much as it is an additional point of discussion.
Speaker 6: There are ways to scheme around a particular running back
Speaker 6: struggling in past pro Okay, for example, play action is
Speaker 6: a way to do it right because play action he
Speaker 6: goes out and now it's a bubble screen or something
Speaker 6: to that effect. And also when I say play Jade
Speaker 6: and Blue, because I also want to be clear because
Speaker 6: I said this on Twitter, and I noticed a couple
Speaker 6: of folks who are like, why are you against Javonte?
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 6: This is not a Javonte Williams in Blue convers now,
Speaker 6: this is this is an rbt RB two conversation. How
Speaker 6: do you rotate those.
Speaker 4: Because you want to change a pace? Because you want
Speaker 4: to change a pace.
Speaker 6: And then we talked about it yesterday there done redundancy
Speaker 6: between Miles Sanders and Javonte Williams And and maybe we
Speaker 6: don't know. I do believe and I said this and
Speaker 6: cal I get it. Blue cribs that ball in Philly.
Speaker 6: Now I will also be fair and say, because of
Speaker 6: the one of the red flags on Blue coming out
Speaker 6: of Texas, how do we not know at some point
Speaker 6: later in the game that he doesn't fumble the ball
Speaker 6: we don't.
Speaker 1: Need, or that he has the patience to even hit
Speaker 1: that hole in the first place. Because Miles Sanders ran
Speaker 1: behind him, he waited for the blocks to develop.
Speaker 4: He played well, he more mistake.
Speaker 8: My thing about that is, if you were Jayden and
Speaker 8: again granted we're speculating on why he's not active for
Speaker 8: this game or for for Philadelphia, if I am Jayden
Speaker 8: Blue in that circumstances, I'm saying, I'm looking at myself
Speaker 8: and I'm saying, what is it that Miles Sanders did
Speaker 8: to be actives that I can just what I look
Speaker 8: in the mirror, and then at that point I am
Speaker 8: over Miles sanders shoulder all week long doing the exact
Speaker 8: same thing to where I'm making the coaches decide whether
Speaker 8: or not I need the young fresh guy or I
Speaker 8: need Miles.
Speaker 6: So I'll do you one better instead of shadowing Miles
Speaker 6: Sanders shadow Javonte one RB one is because your question
Speaker 6: that you need to ask yourself, you need to look
Speaker 6: in the mirror and say, how can I be RB one?
Speaker 6: Not how can I get RB two reps just from
Speaker 6: a self compared.
Speaker 8: From a preparedness standpoint, Because if Miles Sanders is doing
Speaker 8: just enough right to be RB two, well Javonte Williams
Speaker 8: is doing mostly everything right, which is why he's RB one.
Speaker 6: So glue yourself to Javonte's hip and figure that out.
Speaker 6: Because Javonte he had some some pass pro that you
Speaker 6: want back on tape, but at the same time he
Speaker 6: was pretty solid in that capacity. So I do love
Speaker 6: Kyle's speculation as far as the pass protection, and I
Speaker 6: think that comes with time. He is a rookie Jayson
Speaker 6: Blue is, but you get better with that. Also, two
Speaker 6: ways practice and game rips right, So.
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if he is inactive this week
Speaker 1: because against the team like this, you're gonna need to
Speaker 1: run the football.
Speaker 5: You're gonna need to have.
Speaker 1: The ability to shuffle in and out if you're going
Speaker 1: to run the football as effectively as you want. Plus
Speaker 1: the way that Miles Sanders ended that game. A lot
Speaker 1: of times coaches will put you in the doghouse for
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, that reminds me of I mean
Speaker 1: Rico Dowdell last year fumbled near the goal line Hunter
Speaker 1: Lipkey two years ago against that for a year, he
Speaker 1: did not have another carry the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: Whereas Rico Dowdell, it wasn't like an immedia thing, but
Speaker 1: he had to drop drop in trust too. I'm wondering
Speaker 1: how much.
Speaker 5: That fumble is going to affect.
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders and his ability to have the trust from
Speaker 1: the coaching staff for it.
Speaker 8: May be something as simple as they trust him more
Speaker 8: in pass pro than they did Jayden. But maybe something
Speaker 8: as simple as that.
Speaker 5: It might be.
Speaker 6: Here's a question posed by the by the check. This
Speaker 6: is a good one. I want out everybody weigh in
Speaker 6: on this. If not Blue, would you consider Malik Davis?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: No, probably not.
Speaker 4: Why not? This is just because the fans are asking.
Speaker 5: I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Malik Davis. Yeah, but you're not going
Speaker 1: to go away from your top two guys unless you're
Speaker 1: If you're releasing Miles Sanders, then maybe talk about Malik Davis.
Speaker 7: That's you don't want to play the roster. That's not
Speaker 7: a situation with that.
Speaker 8: Like Jayden, Blue is already on the active roster, and
Speaker 8: you make him active for this, you make Miles Sanders
Speaker 8: an act.
Speaker 1: Let me say that Miles Sanders did not play bad. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't like he fumbled the ball.
Speaker 6: Yeah, things wrong, major, absolutely, But so did Derrick Henry
Speaker 6: and so did a bunch of other players in his league.
Speaker 4: Guys fumble the ball, now, do you want to see it? Repeat?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. That's when it's a problem. But yeah, he
Speaker 1: that was a big player in the game. But it's
Speaker 1: he did not play bad.
Speaker 5: So I had I had the same conversation last night with.
Speaker 1: An expectation of him toting the rock for a sixty
Speaker 1: yard touch that's not realistic.
Speaker 4: That's not his that's not his asset. Now he doesn't
Speaker 4: possess that anymore.
Speaker 1: So to have an unrealistic expectation that he's going to
Speaker 1: all of a sudden break away and ren for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: that's unreal Those are two parts of the argument, though
Speaker 1: is one. He fumbled in the red zone. And I
Speaker 1: even talked to Nate Newton last night during the crosstalk show.
Speaker 1: He said, if that was Jimmy, he'd be I'd be
Speaker 1: looking for Miles Sanders' bags on Monday.
Speaker 4: I understand.
Speaker 5: But that's a different time period, different so we can go.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 5: I get the second thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah he did, but hundred lipkey fumble last year.
Speaker 1: He just got a contract extension, like like like stuff
Speaker 1: happened was two years ago, okay, whatever, like stuff happens,
Speaker 1: bro Like, it's not a if you're a repeat offending.
Speaker 1: If it's a repeat offender, then it's a problem. But
Speaker 1: what you said about it's unrealistic to expect him to
Speaker 1: have the sixty yard touchdown.
Speaker 5: He had a touchdown, but he just didn't have a
Speaker 5: touch No, you know, now he jaden blue. If he
Speaker 5: does break free, he's gone.
Speaker 4: Understand, but he's got to say that about oh my
Speaker 4: every poy I exist.
Speaker 5: Ghit it Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 1: But what the situation is is you've got a young
Speaker 1: running back you haven't seen yet.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 1: So either there's four find the scenes that we don't
Speaker 1: have yet and we don't see yet, or there's a
Speaker 1: need to see him on the field. There's one of
Speaker 1: two ways that can go, and so that's what the
Speaker 1: coaching staff has to decide.
Speaker 5: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna disagree with what they see
Speaker 1: because they're around it a whole lot more than we
Speaker 1: are at this point in time in the season. Just
Speaker 1: for those that don't know, the media gets to see
Speaker 1: stretching and special teams.
Speaker 5: That's all we get. So we don't see any practice.
Speaker 4: But I'm on.
Speaker 6: Record saying, through trading camp and now into the season,
Speaker 6: with the one in two running backs that you have,
Speaker 6: you can expect and anticipate them falling for four to
Speaker 6: four and a half yards per play. If they're able
Speaker 6: to do that, that is success. That's william that is
Speaker 6: both of those guys. Him is said, like, you have
Speaker 6: two backs that are very similar to Williams is just
Speaker 6: more physical.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have home run hitters out of those two.
Speaker 1: Got so so to expect it just because he obviously
Speaker 1: breaks through the first and second level.
Speaker 4: To expect him to just tote that.
Speaker 6: Thing all the way to the house, that's unreal It's
Speaker 6: not realistic. So like, don't put that expectation on him
Speaker 6: and then be mad when he shows you exactly.
Speaker 4: Who he is.
Speaker 7: He's still gain fifty yards.
Speaker 4: So here here's a question.
Speaker 5: Got cot by the line?
Speaker 4: All right? So in this freedom really but should have
Speaker 4: been one of the defensive players of the year.
Speaker 7: But like he said, the four who knows if Jay
Speaker 7: and Blue sees that hole?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it has to get there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, here's what I wonder though, and and I know
Speaker 6: it's not going to happen, especially being that he was
Speaker 6: just awarded the contract extension.
Speaker 4: But would you be at verse to would you be
Speaker 4: at verse? Yes?
Speaker 7: I am at verse.
Speaker 6: I am all active this week. Oh see what Jaydon
Speaker 6: Blue can inactive?
Speaker 4: No? No, inactive? But here here's what. Here's why I
Speaker 4: say that. It's because I thought he's gonna say, put
Speaker 4: him in a rotation. No, no, no, make hundred inactive so
Speaker 4: that you can get it. Never happens, so I know.
Speaker 6: But here's what I would do, right, I would make
Speaker 6: Hunter lip Key inactive so that I could get jay
Speaker 6: and Blue, Miles Sanders and Javontai Williams if you're so
Speaker 6: hell bent on keeping Mouse Sanders there so that you
Speaker 6: can kind of feel Jayden Blue out.
Speaker 4: Okay, cool, run with those three. Here's why I.
Speaker 6: Say that you had Jayden Blue inactive last week, Hunter
Speaker 6: Lipkey obviously access on your quasi running back, full back,
Speaker 6: tight en, etcetera. Yea, Hunter lip Key, how many handoffs none?
Speaker 6: How many targets but they love, they love how and
Speaker 6: how many past protection coverages one they love him, one.
Speaker 5: Didn't utilize them, didn't utilize him at actual team.
Speaker 4: So that's that's my point.
Speaker 6: I don't know that that's going to be the same
Speaker 6: special I don't know that that's going to be the
Speaker 6: case for Hunter lip Key going forward. I'm quite certain
Speaker 6: they're going to find ways to utilize Hunter lip Key
Speaker 6: in certain pockets going forward.
Speaker 4: They love blip Key.
Speaker 6: If if your plan for Hunter lip Key in week
Speaker 6: two same as week one, then there's no reason for
Speaker 6: Hunter lip Key to be active over Jay and Blue.
Speaker 1: That's my say, gotta li Key, you gotta go when
Speaker 1: we come back tomorrow. It is a saying with your
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