WEBVTT - Hey Bill Hader! 0:00:02.830 --> 0:00:13.610 Hey Jonas Hi guys Oh hey Joe I've got a 0:00:13.630 --> 0:00:16.849 bone to pick Let's hear it The bone I'm picking 0:00:17.470 --> 0:00:18.470 is your bones. 0:00:19.450 --> 0:00:21.800 I don't really understand what I don't want you picking 0:00:21.820 --> 0:00:27.280 my bone Too bad Can we start over? No too 0:00:27.300 --> 0:00:31.120 bad we're in it now The family group text It's 0:00:31.140 --> 0:00:35.239 quite sacred But I think there is a little conversation 0:00:35.270 --> 0:00:38.230 to be had about family group text etiquette. 0:00:39.229 --> 0:00:42.230 Exhibit A. How much you send? 0:00:43.110 --> 0:00:43.250 No. 0:00:43.390 --> 0:00:47.350 Well, first of all, F you, Kevin Jonas. It's about no. 0:00:47.620 --> 0:00:50.960 I've spent. Look at these. I send one, two, three, 0:00:51.340 --> 0:00:56.480 four messages. And all I get are. Emoticons, or what 0:00:56.540 --> 0:00:58.480 do you call those? Joe, we're with each other all 0:00:58.540 --> 0:00:58.880 the time. 0:00:58.900 --> 0:01:00.520 You show us the pictures in real life. 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.610 You're texting us as we're sitting at the table together. 0:01:03.950 --> 0:01:07.229 This is for mom and dad. We're with you while 0:01:07.270 --> 0:01:07.729 you're sending it. 0:01:07.750 --> 0:01:08.310 This is for family photos. 0:01:08.330 --> 0:01:09.250 You literally go like this. 0:01:09.870 --> 0:01:10.770 I will challenge you on this. 0:01:10.790 --> 0:01:11.490 You'll be like, look at this. 0:01:11.510 --> 0:01:11.789 It's so cute. 0:01:11.810 --> 0:01:13.630 I feel attacked right now. I'm like, oh, that's so cute. 0:01:14.110 --> 0:01:17.170 Do I have to then respond on the thing? Hold on. 0:01:17.459 --> 0:01:18.869 I'm just like, you guys are coming at me right now, 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:20.740 and I'm just feeling really interested. You started it. 0:01:20.819 --> 0:01:21.260 You gave it up. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:23.350 I just was trying to have a casual conversation. 0:01:23.450 --> 0:01:23.610 Yeah. 0:01:23.630 --> 0:01:24.130 Well, next time. 0:01:24.150 --> 0:01:26.390 No, I'm just saying before you speak, listen, there are 0:01:26.410 --> 0:01:27.929 a lot of people in this group text your wives. 0:01:29.050 --> 0:01:29.230 Yeah. 0:01:29.290 --> 0:01:32.850 And they're responding. We're together with you. We spend all 0:01:32.910 --> 0:01:34.980 our time together. I'm just saying, all I'm saying is 0:01:35.020 --> 0:01:37.300 if you send something, I feel like a little, like 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.700 a little bit more than a, I don't know, call 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.240 me old fashioned, but what is this Instagram? Why am 0:01:43.260 --> 0:01:44.980 I just getting likes out here? So here's what I'll do. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.230 I will not exclamation point. I will not respond in person. 0:01:48.270 --> 0:01:49.590 When you show me a video or picture of your 0:01:49.630 --> 0:01:50.470 very cute kids, I'll go. 0:01:50.490 --> 0:01:50.830 Hmm. 0:01:51.210 --> 0:01:52.350 I'm sorry, I'm going to save it for the group text. 0:01:52.370 --> 0:01:56.150 What is the context of these messages? It doesn't matter. Well, 0:01:56.370 --> 0:01:58.230 this one might not be a good example of what's 0:01:58.250 --> 0:02:00.090 happening in our group chat. The top one is, so 0:02:00.210 --> 0:02:03.850 I took a screenshot of Franklin Jonas' text messages for 0:02:03.870 --> 0:02:05.630 me from way back when, because it was his birthday, 0:02:05.650 --> 0:02:07.630 and he said, to Margaritaville, and thought that was funny. 0:02:08.190 --> 0:02:10.210 And then I wrote, happy birthday, Frank. That I got 0:02:10.250 --> 0:02:13.770 a like. Probably from Kevin Sr. You ran this joke 0:02:13.870 --> 0:02:15.489 by us before you posted. 0:02:15.190 --> 0:02:15.710 It on the group text. 0:02:15.730 --> 0:02:17.169 You literally said it to me in the gym. I 0:02:17.169 --> 0:02:18.889 like he said posted it on the group text. Like 0:02:18.950 --> 0:02:20.389 it's a feed. 0:02:20.490 --> 0:02:20.970 Okay, boomer. 0:02:21.310 --> 0:02:23.589 But it's great. Denise Jonas, I came as, I saw, 0:02:23.669 --> 0:02:26.010 I conquered. Which came as wine. We'd love to get 0:02:26.050 --> 0:02:27.389 our mom sponsored. That's important. 0:02:27.590 --> 0:02:27.770 Yes. 0:02:27.950 --> 0:02:29.709 It'll save us a bunch of money. 0:02:29.970 --> 0:02:33.089 You workshopped that joke with me in the gym right 0:02:33.130 --> 0:02:33.690 before you sent it. 0:02:34.010 --> 0:02:35.869 Okay, Kevin. We want to get our mom sponsored. 0:02:36.930 --> 0:02:40.010 Okay miss okay and finally but not uh lastly oh 0:02:40.050 --> 0:02:41.750 you're in your summer clothes which is a call back 0:02:41.770 --> 0:02:45.269 to hey jonas podcast which was actually a screenshot of 0:02:45.330 --> 0:02:47.690 an instagram and i'd say that's very funny and you 0:02:47.750 --> 0:02:49.590 should have gotten some response that's really funny i didn't 0:02:49.610 --> 0:02:51.620 even get anything it's funny because in the car when 0:02:51.630 --> 0:02:53.660 you posted it on the family chat i said that 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:54.940 was funny in real life i love. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.239 You said posted on the family chat so funny anyway 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.860 um i'm stressed out let's bring in our guest because 0:03:00.940 --> 0:03:04.140 he's an incredible person and honestly He's playing a character 0:03:04.180 --> 0:03:06.360 that solves a lot of family problems. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:03:06.380 --> 0:03:08.519 please welcome to the pod, Bill Hader, everybody. Bill Hader 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.959 on the podcast. I never even noticed that. All I had, Bill, 0:03:12.300 --> 0:03:12.640 was this. 0:03:13.020 --> 0:03:14.980 Needless to say, this place has everything. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:16.280 I do have that. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:16.899 Or this. 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:19.780 So just in case. We've got options. 0:03:19.900 --> 0:03:20.419 Oh, good. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:20.980 Oh, good. 0:03:21.139 --> 0:03:23.260 Hey, Bill, where are you FaceTiming us from? 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.480 Los Angeles, where it's 100 degrees right now. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:28.140 It's very warm there. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:28.760 Yeah. 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:30.650 It's obscenely hot right now. 0:03:31.030 --> 0:03:31.750 It's great to see you. 0:03:33.570 --> 0:03:36.430 We were just talking before you hopped in how we 0:03:36.450 --> 0:03:39.410 go way, way back. Kevin actually said, wait, he was 0:03:39.430 --> 0:03:41.330 the wizard in the SNL skit that we did with him, right? 0:03:41.350 --> 0:03:42.130 I was like, yeah. 0:03:42.510 --> 0:03:45.690 The ageless wizard. The ageless wizard of Property of the Queen. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.870 Which we just recently saw that again, and it holds up. 0:03:51.260 --> 0:03:52.010 Not every bit holds up. 0:03:52.020 --> 0:03:52.380 Oh, really? 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:53.040 Oh, good. 0:03:53.500 --> 0:03:54.080 Do you remember. 0:03:54.820 --> 0:03:57.220 any of the sketches or are there ones that stand out? Like, 0:03:57.260 --> 0:03:58.440 is it just one big blur? 0:03:59.030 --> 0:04:01.790 Some stick out. I remember that one just cause I 0:04:01.830 --> 0:04:04.030 had to wear that, that beard was so itchy. 0:04:04.630 --> 0:04:05.089 Sorry about that. 0:04:05.170 --> 0:04:06.650 And also it was nice though when I came and 0:04:06.670 --> 0:04:08.870 you guys were laughing so much. So I was like, well, 0:04:08.910 --> 0:04:09.490 that's good. 0:04:09.790 --> 0:04:10.610 That's probably rare too. 0:04:10.990 --> 0:04:13.060 You did a sketch with a bunch of teenagers, um, 0:04:13.130 --> 0:04:13.590 on the show. 0:04:13.780 --> 0:04:13.900 Yeah. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:14.840 Yeah. 0:04:15.140 --> 0:04:20.780 I was back in 09. Valentine's Day 2009. Oh my God. 0:04:21.580 --> 0:04:26.390 No, Andy Sandberg and I texted, uh, yesterday was the 0:04:27.460 --> 0:04:31.180 21st anniversary of our first show wow so we've been 0:04:31.260 --> 0:04:34.560 on we were on snl the legal drinking. 0:04:34.339 --> 0:04:37.760 Age you can finally drink yeah yeah now you probably 0:04:37.779 --> 0:04:39.960 told the story a million times so sorry to ask 0:04:39.980 --> 0:04:41.760 you this question but can you walk us through your 0:04:41.810 --> 0:04:44.330 audition for the show and what happened when you found 0:04:44.370 --> 0:04:46.250 out you got it i. 0:04:45.910 --> 0:04:48.330 I got very lucky megan malaly saw me in a 0:04:48.730 --> 0:04:53.750 in a um second city show like in 2004 that 0:04:53.890 --> 0:05:00.370 her brother-in-law was in. And, uh, and she, you know, 0:05:00.410 --> 0:05:03.150 Matt Offerman is really funny, great guy. And, and, uh, 0:05:03.810 --> 0:05:06.900 we were in the show together and then she afterwards 0:05:06.940 --> 0:05:09.380 was like, Hey, you're really funny. And then I was 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:13.180 working as an assistant editor at the time on Iron 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:18.229 Chef America. I was a nighttime assistant editor and, And she, yeah, 0:05:18.430 --> 0:05:19.089 it was pretty awesome. 0:05:19.110 --> 0:05:21.470 Did you do the, did you edit Iron Chef Masters 0:05:21.490 --> 0:05:21.770 as well? 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.039 Yeah, no. Well, I don't know. It was just Iron Chef. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.060 I don't know what the masters were. I didn't really 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.080 pay much attention to be honest. I just had a 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:36.150 lot of footage of Bobby Flay running around and Mario 0:05:36.190 --> 0:05:39.350 Batali running around. And I had one thing, Bobby Flay 0:05:39.390 --> 0:05:41.690 electrocuted himself once. We were like, oh shit. 0:05:43.690 --> 0:05:44.849 You're going to watch the rest of the year. 0:05:44.890 --> 0:05:48.130 He grabbed this pan and just kind of dropped. He 0:05:48.170 --> 0:05:50.730 was fine, though. And then, yeah, she called me and 0:05:50.770 --> 0:05:53.390 was like, I went and had dinner with Lorne Michaels 0:05:53.450 --> 0:05:56.450 and I told him about you and they'd like to 0:05:56.490 --> 0:06:00.920 meet you. And so I went out there and met him. He, 0:06:01.460 --> 0:06:04.260 you know, said, yeah, you should audition. And I auditioned 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:08.160 a couple times. Like they came to L.A., they saw 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.940 me perform. Then we went to New York. I performed there. 0:06:12.020 --> 0:06:17.020 And then I did a proper audition. And then the 0:06:18.540 --> 0:06:22.320 summer of 2005, I found out I got the job. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.620 And I remember flying up with Andy Samberg. 0:06:25.339 --> 0:06:26.039 No way, really? 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.370 Yeah, we were on the flight together up, kind of 0:06:29.390 --> 0:06:33.150 going like, wow, this is crazy. That's so cool, man. 0:06:33.510 --> 0:06:36.089 And then we had dinner. I remember with Lauren. And 0:06:36.130 --> 0:06:38.750 as we walked out, Conan O'Brien was walking in. And 0:06:38.770 --> 0:06:39.909 we met Conan O'Brien. 0:06:39.950 --> 0:06:40.250 And we're like. 0:06:40.550 --> 0:06:43.950 Whoa. Like I, we were just like starstruck the whole time. 0:06:44.500 --> 0:06:45.440 So yeah, it was really cool. 0:06:45.940 --> 0:06:46.100 Yeah. 0:06:46.140 --> 0:06:49.360 That's how I, how soon after that final audition, did 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.840 you find out that you got, uh, it was. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.979 It was like three weeks later. I got a manager 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.530 solely off getting the audition. Like they were like, whoa, 0:06:57.550 --> 0:06:59.250 SNL wanted to meet you. And I got a manager, 0:06:59.270 --> 0:07:03.790 you know, Miodenkerk. And I remember we were eating and 0:07:03.830 --> 0:07:05.570 I went to the restroom. As I came back, she 0:07:05.610 --> 0:07:08.270 had her phone and she handed it to me and like, hello. 0:07:08.290 --> 0:07:12.730 And it was Marcy Klein saying, Hey, so, Yeah, you're hired. Wow. 0:07:12.750 --> 0:07:13.530 That's so awesome. 0:07:13.550 --> 0:07:14.690 That's so cool. 0:07:14.790 --> 0:07:17.690 That's crazy. Yeah, life changer. 0:07:18.030 --> 0:07:20.940 Feels like from some of the other comedians that have 0:07:21.070 --> 0:07:22.720 been on this show and other people we've talked to, 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.320 it just seems like such an intense process, though, of 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.400 going through the auditioning. What was the thing that you 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:29.720 went in there and was like, I can do this 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.040 and I can do it well? What gave you a 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:33.610 little bit of confidence going into the room? 0:07:33.970 --> 0:07:35.770 I mean, I knew I was pretty good at impressions, 0:07:35.870 --> 0:07:38.010 so I knew I had that. Actually, the thing that 0:07:38.030 --> 0:07:40.890 was most helpful was finding out that, you know, you 0:07:40.910 --> 0:07:44.770 should make your audition kind of, like, quick. Like, get 0:07:44.830 --> 0:07:46.040 it down to, like, five minutes. 0:07:46.130 --> 0:07:46.380 Right. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.060 Don't go in there and, like, take your time. You know, 0:07:50.100 --> 0:07:53.920 because I was, you were seeing people with, you know, 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.640 props and, like, different, you know, wigs and stuff they 0:07:57.660 --> 0:07:59.340 were putting on, and I was like, I don't have 0:07:59.380 --> 0:08:00.660 any of that. I just kind of, it was like 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:06.070 a stand-up, like a five-minute stand-up set. you know? And, uh, 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.480 so I kind of had the idea where I was 0:08:08.500 --> 0:08:10.280 going to do this character. I used to do on 0:08:10.300 --> 0:08:12.680 the show, Vinnie Vadeci, he was an Italian guy and 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.740 it was him doing impressions. So I was doing a 0:08:15.820 --> 0:08:19.540 character doing impressions. So there would be, so here's some 0:08:19.580 --> 0:08:21.640 of my character work and here's some impressions that I 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.000 can do. And then within that, I would do other 0:08:25.220 --> 0:08:27.380 characters like Vinnie Vadeci would go, this is a character 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.040 I have called so-and-so, you know, whatever. And so I 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.200 was able to get it into a really tight five minutes. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.000 And so my feeling was like, well, at least I'll 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.550 do it and they won't be bored. It'll be, I'll 0:08:39.570 --> 0:08:41.170 be in and out, you know, so I'm not going to, 0:08:41.309 --> 0:08:43.890 you know, maybe that'll be a plus. But I knew 0:08:43.929 --> 0:08:48.670 it was good because a couple minutes, a couple seconds 0:08:48.770 --> 0:08:50.420 into it, Tina Fey started laughing. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:51.859 That's always a good sign. 0:08:52.179 --> 0:08:55.040 And I really relaxed. I was like, whoa, Tina laughs. Okay. 0:08:55.300 --> 0:08:55.880 That's awesome. 0:08:55.940 --> 0:08:57.520 And is this in front of the other people auditioning 0:08:57.540 --> 0:08:59.000 as well that you're doing this or is it just. 0:08:59.020 --> 0:09:02.230 You can hear them. That was messed up. We're all 0:09:02.260 --> 0:09:06.429 in dressing rooms, and you could hear the auditions happening. 0:09:06.550 --> 0:09:09.950 So you were hearing other people audition, and I now 0:09:10.010 --> 0:09:12.090 know I could have just turned it. The knob is 0:09:12.210 --> 0:09:12.650 in the room. 0:09:12.670 --> 0:09:14.990 The knob's in the room. But I didn't know that. 0:09:15.010 --> 0:09:15.650 That's so interesting. 0:09:15.670 --> 0:09:18.790 So you could listen to the other auditions. 0:09:19.290 --> 0:09:20.910 I don't know if they did it on purpose, or 0:09:20.929 --> 0:09:24.270 they just didn't. They forgot that some of the dressing 0:09:24.290 --> 0:09:25.870 rooms had the sound up. I don't think everything would 0:09:25.890 --> 0:09:26.390 be on purpose. 0:09:27.020 --> 0:09:30.429 Nick and I had an audition for Wicked. Nick and 0:09:30.450 --> 0:09:32.510 I both auditioned for a part in the movie. 0:09:33.130 --> 0:09:33.630 Didn't get it. 0:09:33.730 --> 0:09:36.070 Yeah, didn't get that one. But I think what got 0:09:36.110 --> 0:09:36.550 me was hearing. 0:09:36.570 --> 0:09:36.830 That's okay. 0:09:36.870 --> 0:09:37.630 It didn't do well. 0:09:38.950 --> 0:09:39.310 Nah. 0:09:39.429 --> 0:09:42.500 Too bad. I could hear the guy auditioning, and I 0:09:42.540 --> 0:09:45.540 was like, oh, okay. So he's singing three octaves higher 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:46.500 than I planned. 0:09:46.580 --> 0:09:46.780 Okay. 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.059 And he sounds really, really good. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:49.839 Perfect. Okay. No problem. 0:09:50.020 --> 0:09:52.120 And then he walks out, and he's like, oh, hey, man. 0:09:52.380 --> 0:09:54.250 And you know, they're waving back. They're like, all right. 0:09:54.260 --> 0:09:56.090 And they're clapping. You're just like, oh, great. 0:09:56.090 --> 0:09:58.329 Here we go. That's the worst when you're auditioning to 0:09:58.390 --> 0:10:00.910 anything and you see the person in front of you 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:02.500 come out of the room and they're all like, oh, 0:10:02.540 --> 0:10:05.719 my God, that was amazing. You know, and you're like, 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:06.780 sing it again. 0:10:07.420 --> 0:10:09.559 So you were doing Second City before this. 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:10.160 Yeah. 0:10:10.660 --> 0:10:11.819 It was Second City, L.A. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.420 So it wasn't like in Chicago or, you know, that's like. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:16.339 Still, you're doing it. 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.820 Were you auditioning a ton in L.A. before you got 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:19.460 to audition for SNL? 0:10:20.030 --> 0:10:24.710 No, I was trying to be a filmmaker. Acting wasn't 0:10:24.750 --> 0:10:28.250 even a thing. I did Second City because a friend 0:10:28.270 --> 0:10:31.290 of mine, I went and saw his Level 5 show. 0:10:31.350 --> 0:10:34.530 This guy, Eric Falkowski, I went and saw his Level 0:10:34.530 --> 0:10:36.590 5 is Your Final Show. And I was like, wow, 0:10:36.830 --> 0:10:40.030 there's people my age doing comedy. I didn't even cross 0:10:40.050 --> 0:10:44.850 my mind to do improv or sketch comedy. And so 0:10:44.870 --> 0:10:50.680 I've been living in L.A. for, at that point, six years. 0:10:50.780 --> 0:10:53.439 I hadn't really done anything creative. Like I was trying 0:10:53.460 --> 0:10:55.660 to write these movies and things like that, but I 0:10:55.700 --> 0:10:58.569 was trying to make a living. So I was PA-ing 0:10:58.610 --> 0:11:00.990 on movies and I was an assistant editor and then 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:02.910 a post PA. And I was just kind of like, 0:11:04.010 --> 0:11:06.490 not really like, oh man, I got to make something. 0:11:06.510 --> 0:11:08.110 So I was like, well, if I take these classes 0:11:08.170 --> 0:11:09.990 and it's like, okay, once a week I'm doing something 0:11:10.010 --> 0:11:13.930 creative and, and then I'll meet people. Maybe that can 0:11:13.950 --> 0:11:16.330 be in my short films. You know, that's how I 0:11:16.610 --> 0:11:20.089 thought it would go. Right. And then when Megan Mullally 0:11:20.110 --> 0:11:23.570 saw me in the, I got, I met Lauren and 0:11:23.590 --> 0:11:26.610 then I got, you know, Naomi Odenkirk became my manager. 0:11:26.630 --> 0:11:30.130 Then I, I went and did that, uh, what do 0:11:30.150 --> 0:11:34.329 you call it? Uh, pilot season. And I read for, uh, 0:11:35.390 --> 0:11:37.670 what did I read for? And I bombed everything. Oh, 0:11:37.710 --> 0:11:39.750 I read for how I met your mother pilot. I 0:11:39.770 --> 0:11:43.010 bombed that. I read for new adventures of old Christine, 0:11:43.510 --> 0:11:44.430 bomb that hard. 0:11:44.460 --> 0:11:47.620 Um, Did you know immediately that you bonded or you 0:11:47.660 --> 0:11:49.440 just felt it after? 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.720 That one I think they told me I bonded. They 0:11:51.740 --> 0:11:53.400 were like, okay. Oh, no. 0:11:53.860 --> 0:11:55.220 You're not going to get this role. 0:11:55.780 --> 0:11:57.679 I forget which one, but one of them I think said, 0:11:57.700 --> 0:11:58.960 you know this is a comedy, right? 0:11:59.700 --> 0:12:00.319 Oh, no. 0:12:01.500 --> 0:12:04.870 I made a terrible mistake. A morning show in the audition, 0:12:05.660 --> 0:12:07.590 they were like, all right, and you can read off 0:12:07.610 --> 0:12:09.309 the sides if you like. I'm like, no, I got it. 0:12:10.010 --> 0:12:10.330 Oh, no. 0:12:10.790 --> 0:12:11.850 Never do that. 0:12:11.890 --> 0:12:14.709 You read for those? I mean, you know a lot 0:12:14.730 --> 0:12:16.420 of people won't read. I know. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:17.850 I'm very grateful. 0:12:17.870 --> 0:12:18.950 That's nice. 0:12:19.270 --> 0:12:21.710 Lesson learned. Just if they offer sides, you hold those 0:12:21.750 --> 0:12:22.309 damn sides. 0:12:22.330 --> 0:12:22.970 Hold your sides. 0:12:23.929 --> 0:12:28.170 So how soon after SNL did Barry come about? And 0:12:28.270 --> 0:12:29.550 was that something that you were cooking up while you 0:12:29.570 --> 0:12:30.569 were doing the show? 0:12:31.100 --> 0:12:33.360 No, I was trying to write movies. And I had 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.500 written a movie for Jed Apatow that didn't really work. 0:12:36.580 --> 0:12:38.939 And I wrote something for Scott Rudin, and that didn't 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:44.650 really work. And I was just... I very quickly was like, 0:12:44.710 --> 0:12:46.209 if I could learn, you know, I need to learn 0:12:46.230 --> 0:12:48.709 to write. So that's why I went and worked at 0:12:49.190 --> 0:12:52.709 like South Park and I did stuff at Pixar a 0:12:52.750 --> 0:12:55.450 little bit just to see like how things can be written. 0:12:58.230 --> 0:13:01.620 And then after I'd done the movie Trainwreck, I had 0:13:01.660 --> 0:13:05.460 a meeting at HBO and they said, we would really 0:13:05.500 --> 0:13:08.800 like to work with you, but not like what you 0:13:08.820 --> 0:13:11.939 did on SNL. You know, they'd seen a film I 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.780 was in called Skeleton Twins. And they were like, we 0:13:13.820 --> 0:13:16.840 really liked your work in Skeleton Twins. We think something 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.700 more like that as opposed to like sketch. 0:13:20.460 --> 0:13:23.900 And I was like, all. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:27.510 Right, I wasn't expecting that. And then they were saying, 0:13:27.530 --> 0:13:31.069 you know, there's this guy, Alec Berg, who just, he 0:13:31.090 --> 0:13:33.870 has a show, Silicon Valley, which is about to come out. 0:13:34.450 --> 0:13:34.970 Love that show. 0:13:35.370 --> 0:13:39.000 I was like, all right. So I met him. And 0:13:39.020 --> 0:13:40.900 then I saw Silicon Valley like, wow, this is great. 0:13:41.100 --> 0:13:45.300 And then he and I met and just started talking 0:13:45.350 --> 0:13:48.910 about ideas. And we had one idea that we tried 0:13:48.929 --> 0:13:50.710 to write for a couple of months and it just 0:13:50.750 --> 0:13:54.490 wasn't working. And then almost in frustration, one day we 0:13:54.530 --> 0:13:58.130 were at this S & W diner in Culver City 0:13:58.710 --> 0:14:00.890 and we were sitting there and we were frustrated. And 0:14:01.510 --> 0:14:03.350 I said, well, what if I was like a hit man? 0:14:04.230 --> 0:14:07.790 But like, you know, it's me. you know, just like 0:14:07.860 --> 0:14:10.960 me being myself, but I'm a hit man. And then 0:14:12.660 --> 0:14:16.440 quickly somehow the idea of him being in an acting class, 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.170 like we still, we were talking about this the other day. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.000 We still have no idea where acting class came from, 0:14:21.020 --> 0:14:22.090 but we were like, Oh, he should be in an 0:14:22.210 --> 0:14:25.550 acting class. I don't know if it's similar with songwriting 0:14:25.570 --> 0:14:27.609 or what you guys do. We're just, there's some things 0:14:27.630 --> 0:14:29.590 that just doesn't work. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. 0:14:29.690 --> 0:14:31.770 And then suddenly you come up with an idea and 0:14:31.850 --> 0:14:34.170 then it, it's like a tree. It just starts to 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.520 grow in the right direction. You're like, Oh, OK, so 0:14:38.060 --> 0:14:40.619 he lives in darkness, but he wants to live in 0:14:40.660 --> 0:14:43.400 a spotlight like he has to like those two things 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.460 don't go together, you know. And that's like, oh, what 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.500 if he meets these people? And then he's like getting into, 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.250 you know, it's like therapy for him. He's like understanding 0:14:52.330 --> 0:14:54.670 why he does these things. And, you know, and but 0:14:54.710 --> 0:14:59.430 he's getting it through this acting class. And and we 0:14:59.490 --> 0:15:01.870 are really excited. It was that feeling, you know, we 0:15:01.890 --> 0:15:03.960 were like, OK, this is this is a thing. 0:15:04.820 --> 0:15:05.580 It definitely was a thing. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.860 And yeah, I think songwriting is very similar to that, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.380 at least for myself and our experience. Like I'll see 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.640 an idea start with, I don't know, a melody over 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.970 here with Joe and then a lyric with Nick. And 0:15:16.330 --> 0:15:20.330 then it translates to be something completely different once someone 0:15:20.370 --> 0:15:22.150 else collaborates as well. It's just really cool to see 0:15:22.210 --> 0:15:25.100 how creativity can be like its own, like you said, 0:15:25.220 --> 0:15:26.600 tree with so many different branches. 0:15:26.620 --> 0:15:29.220 Yeah, just sometimes you plant a thing and it grows 0:15:29.260 --> 0:15:32.670 like sideways. It just kind of dies. Or it goes 0:15:32.870 --> 0:15:34.410 up and it goes right back into the ground and 0:15:34.430 --> 0:15:36.950 you're like, okay, that's not going to work. Yeah, that's 0:15:36.990 --> 0:15:41.350 the best feeling, you know, when you're like, oh man, 0:15:41.390 --> 0:15:43.480 none of these things have worked and you just have 0:15:43.500 --> 0:15:45.880 to keep doing it and suddenly something clicks. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:46.140 Right. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:46.240 Yeah. 0:15:46.620 --> 0:15:49.000 Well, something that definitely worked in my household with you 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:50.040 is Cloudy with a Chance. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.050 It is one of our favorite films ever. It's one 0:15:54.070 --> 0:15:57.780 of my favorite films, and I always wanted to go 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.680 to a restaurant that made certain items like that from 0:16:01.700 --> 0:16:02.120 the movie. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.989 Oh, huge. It's huge. Yeah. I'm sure you could find 0:16:06.010 --> 0:16:08.390 a place like that. You guys should open that up. 0:16:08.470 --> 0:16:10.220 There you go. See, this is the tree growing. This 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:11.480 is the tree. It's starting to grow. 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.220 It's starting to grow. Exactly. 0:16:14.260 --> 0:16:16.620 The ice cream scene where they were like, where he 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.280 gets like, pretends like he got like shot with the 0:16:18.340 --> 0:16:19.910 ice cream is like the funniest thing. 0:16:20.010 --> 0:16:21.870 Such a good movie. It's so well done. 0:16:21.910 --> 0:16:24.670 Your voice is perfect. And you know, your voice work. 0:16:24.730 --> 0:16:25.850 Do you enjoy doing voice work? 0:16:26.210 --> 0:16:26.590 Yeah. 0:16:26.910 --> 0:16:29.100 Yeah, I do. I mean, I think I say this 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.800 a lot, but I think the thing that people don't 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.160 assume is that it's really easy and you kind of 0:16:33.180 --> 0:16:35.330 just waltz in and you do it but it's i'm 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.170 so exhausted after i do it dude it's physical right 0:16:38.270 --> 0:16:40.890