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Speaker 1: Now it's time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Market Greg Washerman, the Pop brothers in

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Speaker 1: law with special guest Ian Rassman from Los Angeles Normal,

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Speaker 1: the oldest civil activist cannabis organization in the world.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one.

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Speaker 3: My name is Blue.

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Speaker 2: Alongside of me as mister Joe Grande. As always, thank you.

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Speaker 4: It's always good to be here next to you and

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Speaker 4: not afraid and making up excuses that I have to

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Speaker 4: zoom in. Yeah, as I book a guest and I

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Speaker 4: leave and don't show up for my buddy.

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Speaker 5: Oh quit, you know, shaming me like.

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Speaker 6: You said those who aren't afraid to say, who's that talking?

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Speaker 5: One who went to a super Spreader event?

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Speaker 7: No, and now you're calling it the super Spreader event.

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Speaker 3: I can't go to any grounds. I can't go, can't

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Speaker 3: be with my family.

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Speaker 5: You were at it looked pretty, you know.

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Speaker 4: I never you know, my dad's been dead for almost

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Speaker 4: twenty years, And the other day I get a text

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Speaker 4: messager Dad Instagram and I have an old Jewish father

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Speaker 4: by the name.

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Speaker 3: Of Craig Washerman that goes I love you.

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Speaker 4: Where are the mask at me even he even had

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Speaker 4: the nervous call me me hof.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic and then.

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Speaker 4: He hits me up when we get to the office, Joe,

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Speaker 4: please stay away from me.

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Speaker 3: You were at a what's it called again.

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Speaker 5: Super spreader.

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Speaker 7: You're at a super spreader events COVID spreader.

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Speaker 4: So that is why Craig is not here in the

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Speaker 4: office and smoking in his beautiful office.

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Speaker 2: Well, I Ian just joined us right now from cal Normals,

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Speaker 2: probably thinking well, why'd you guys let me join? Like

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Speaker 2: he's backing away.

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Speaker 3: It's fine, Craig would have been six feet away.

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Speaker 5: Two, he's not as he's not as old as me.

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Speaker 4: Oh that is true. That's what many people are. And

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Speaker 4: Mark should be joining us. So if you hear somebody

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Speaker 4: abruptly come in, Mark's just coming from courts and Mark

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Speaker 4: will be zooming in as well.

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Speaker 3: So it should be a fun time.

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Speaker 4: And on the show today, you guys like Blue just mentioned,

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Speaker 4: we have Ian Rassman and he's from La Normal.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get into him real big.

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Speaker 4: But thank you guys all for listening to the podcast

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Speaker 4: and make sure you follow us on Instagram at Cannabis

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Speaker 4: Talk one oh one at pot Underscore Brothers Underscore at

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Speaker 4: Underscore Law, Mark's Atlaw, Craig's at Washlaw, Dog Blues at one,

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Speaker 4: Christopher Wright, and I am at Joe Grande fifty two.

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Speaker 4: But before we get to you, Ian, I was told Craig,

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Speaker 4: you have some very important news that you want to

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Speaker 4: share with everyone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Two two items.

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Speaker 6: One is just really a statement about our current president

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Speaker 6: and how he really feels about weed, because he's to me,

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Speaker 6: he's lied in the pass about his stance and what

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Speaker 6: he was going to do. And I think he got

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Speaker 6: a lot of swing voters the first time when he

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Speaker 6: said leave it up to the states. But his director

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Speaker 6: of press communications, his director of press communications tweeted House

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Speaker 6: dims more worried about pot dealers than providing relief for

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Speaker 6: the American people. Because in the next coronavirus package, the

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Speaker 6: Democrats have been trying to get in there items that

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Speaker 6: deal with cannabis and cannabis relief that businesses that need

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Speaker 6: relief in the cannabis space, and all the Republicans keep

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Speaker 6: saying that they care more about cannabis than they do

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Speaker 6: about the American people, and they're trying to turn this

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Speaker 6: into we're more worried or Democrats are more worried about

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Speaker 6: pot dealers. Is that how he's describing legitimate, licensed cannabis

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Speaker 6: businesses in the States, and it's from who.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that that's where are you reading this

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Speaker 2: or you ada libbing this? Because it's not like you

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Speaker 2: were ad libbing this, bro, No, it.

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Speaker 5: Was what this was the press community.

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Speaker 6: This isn't a tweet from the press communication the director

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Speaker 6: of press for the president's re election campaign.

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Speaker 3: It's funny how something like that they always.

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Speaker 5: Get around this.

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Speaker 6: He is against weed at its core, no matter what

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Speaker 4: It's just terrible to always think when we hear something

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Speaker 4: that's not what we meant.

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Speaker 3: That's not what we said.

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Speaker 4: When it's like, why would you let this go out

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Speaker 4: if you're the leader of this department, right and you

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Speaker 4: flip flop on this again, which is just either I.

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Speaker 6: Agree, So I just wanted to get that out everybody.

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Speaker 2: That's not what I meant.

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Speaker 3: What was that?

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Speaker 4: All the supporters will say, that's not what he meant,

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Speaker 4: when like you can read it verbatim and it's like well,

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Speaker 4: this is what they said.

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Speaker 3: How is it not what he meant?

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Speaker 5: Well, that's easy.

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Speaker 6: That's all he has to do is say I didn't

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Speaker 6: say it, and you play, you play what he said

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Speaker 6: right next to him.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna say, that's not what I said.

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Speaker 4: And then the media is sending fake information. It's like, no,

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Speaker 4: they're not sending fake information. They're sending it. They're reading

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Speaker 4: exactly verbatim what you just said, Craig.

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Speaker 6: Happens all the time, Craig, fake news, Craig.

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Speaker 3: And that's what we get all the time.

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Speaker 6: You read this here in California, how the DEA served

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Speaker 6: a subpoena on the Bureau of Cannabis Control to get

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Speaker 6: certain information about licensed distributors. In the subpoena, they wanted

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Speaker 6: unredacted cannabis licenses, unredacted cannabis license applications, and unredacted shipping manifests.

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Speaker 6: That's what they DEA was going after the BCC for.

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Speaker 6: And remember the only way now the DEA can spend

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Speaker 6: money on investigations, but if a business is compliant in

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Speaker 6: the state that they're in, then the DOJ can't use

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Speaker 6: that the federal government is no longer still investigating cannabis

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Speaker 6: crimes that fall outside of legal businesses. Now, we've been

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Speaker 6: informed and we've heard that there's certain licensed companies, distributors,

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Speaker 6: potential cultivators that are selling licensed, legal weed out of

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Speaker 6: distribution companies, the BCC fought it. The federal court literally

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Speaker 6: just came down. I'm going to read the excerpt. US

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Speaker 6: Magistrate Judge Linda Lopez sided with DEE on Monday, finding

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Speaker 6: that the agency subpoena meets requirements for an enforceable request,

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Speaker 6: which I guessed what happened. The court finds that the

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Speaker 6: United States has sufficiently established the relevancy of the subpoena

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Speaker 6: to meet the quote not especially constraining standard, the judge

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Speaker 6: the subpoena is too indefinite or broad. The Court finds

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Speaker 6: oil from Mexico by specific licensees. Court finds thus that

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Speaker 6: the subpoenas and the communications between the agencies together are

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Speaker 6: it being federally illegal. I didn't think that the state

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Speaker 6: licensed entities that aren't in compliance and still slinging stuff

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Speaker 4: Can you put that in a little more Layman's terms, Craig,

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Speaker 4: is because what I'm interpreting and what I hear from that,

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Speaker 4: first of all, can you break that down a little

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Speaker 4: more Layman's terms before I give you what I think

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Speaker 4: it says, can you please?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 6: So the dea issue to subpoena, that's a request for

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Speaker 6: records on the Bureau of Cannabis Control, which is the

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Speaker 6: where which is where all the applications for distribution are filed,

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Speaker 6: all your papers, all your documents, manifest which is the

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Speaker 6: with the licensed number from the cultivator, who transporting it,

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Speaker 6: and who's buying it could be could be a retailer,

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Speaker 6: but it's all track and trace with license numbers in

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Speaker 6: the whole nine yards. So that's what that's one of

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Speaker 6: the things that they want to an aster are the manifests.

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Speaker 4: And why are they shaying it's coming from Mexico? Did

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Speaker 4: they they got a hunch, they got a lead where

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Speaker 5: I have no idea.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't say whatever the you know that that's big

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Speaker 6: you're gonna it's gonna happen. You're gonna get caught sooner

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Speaker 6: or later. And this is what's happening. Sooner or later,

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Speaker 6: they're gonna get caught, whether it's a small percent leading

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Speaker 6: let's you know, let's let's call it.

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Speaker 5: Uh, let's let's.

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Speaker 6: Call it as it is that Uh, some people are

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Speaker 4: So is this a circumstance where you're in the game

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Speaker 4: and you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar?

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Speaker 4: Because now the federal government's cracking down on the BCC

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Speaker 4: and whatever information they find out, they're gonna find out

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Speaker 4: that if you were slaying packs out the back door,

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Speaker 4: so to speak, like you just said, they're gonna be this.

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Speaker 6: So they're gonna come in and they're gonna go over

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Speaker 6: these manifests. And we've heard of this happening as well.

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Speaker 6: And it might start with a cultivator selling to a licensed.

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Speaker 6: Thre at a price that far out, that far exceeds

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Speaker 6: it's not going to a license retailer. It's disappearing somewhere

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Speaker 6: Mexico could just be one of.

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Speaker 5: The reasons that they're using.

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Speaker 4: So the cartel cartel might have their hands in it

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Speaker 4: somehow somewhere they've been from Jump Street, right, but of

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Speaker 4: course so wouldn't it be almost idiotic? Or is it

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Speaker 4: people trying to get some books to show money being

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Speaker 4: moved legitimately, but they're trying to bring the black market

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Speaker 6: So no, they're not trying to bring the black martin

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Speaker 6: to the legal market. I mean, things kind of turned

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Speaker 6: so everybody there's a little shortage of weed, so a

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Speaker 6: license distributor can actually make more money selling it to

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Speaker 6: a black market retailer or a black market distribute That's.

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Speaker 3: What I mean. I don't understan why wouldn't want to

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Speaker 3: do that? It's go off book.

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't they want to just do that off the books?

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Speaker 4: It's like, okay, why would I want to put this

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Speaker 6: Right now, the margins aren't there like they were in

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Speaker 3: The cookie John No, So they can lose their license.

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Speaker 2: Sure well, guess what, guys, when we come back, we

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Speaker 2: Talk one on one. My name is Blue. Alongside of

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Speaker 3: HII guys via zoom as much.

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Speaker 2: As Hello, Mark just dropped his joint on his lap

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Speaker 8: Mark, Well, I am not in the no smoking zone.

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Speaker 5: My motor vehicle is not.

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Speaker 8: Operating, and I have my California physicians recommendation. So I'm okay,

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, Joe, tell us what's going on the show?

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Speaker 4: But well, you guys Ian Rassman, as you said, Blue

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Speaker 4: Laws otherwise known as Normal.

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Speaker 7: Capital and Capital O Capital R Capital M Capital l.

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Speaker 3: That's Normal, you guys.

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Speaker 4: Holding the role of executive director and president of the

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Ian for being a part of the show.

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Speaker 3: It's always good to run across you again.

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Speaker 9: It's honestly great to be here and see you guys.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad Mark and Craig can book you and then

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Speaker 4: Again, fantastic guys with lawyers. It's just like the washerman's

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Speaker 4: What's the story about Normal in the Los Angeles chapter?

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Speaker 9: Sure. Yeah, So we're one of the oldest chapters in

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Speaker 9: So we support normal's mission to repeal the prohibition of

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Speaker 9: Thanks for the great example over there, Mark, And we

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Speaker 7: Really, so you're not getting paid for this gig.

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Speaker 9: No, but I do get to hang out with cool

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Speaker 9: Well, you know the history of cannabis has got incredibly dark,

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Speaker 9: You know, I wrote down a little quote. I hope

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Speaker 9: getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and

443
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 9: the blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we

444
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 9: could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid

445
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 9: their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night

446
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 9: after night on the evening news.

447
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Speaker 4: I mean, I was like what we're gonna hear from

448
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 4: the government today.

449
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 2: It's exactly what's happening right now, and so you better

450
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Speaker 2: be careful with how you vote.

451
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Speaker 4: No, And that's how they're doing it right now. That's

452
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 4: how the administration is right now. No, I feel like

453
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: that's how the media is right now. What are your

454
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 4: thoughts on a current events right now? I mean, as

455
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: you state back to be honest, Yeah, be honest, what

456
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Speaker 4: do you.

457
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Speaker 3: Think do you feel like it's very similar exactly?

458
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Speaker 9: I think cannabis has never stopped being used as a

459
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 9: weapon against our minority communities. You know, I grew up

460
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 9: here in this in the eighties and nineties and two thousands,

461
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 9: you know, when the war on drugs was raging through

462
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,959
Speaker 9: Los Angeles and it was fierce here in LA. I mean,

463
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Speaker 9: there's no doubt about it. We have We're well known

464
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Speaker 9: to be a large melting pot here in Los Angeles. Therefore,

465
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 9: we have a disproportionate number of minority people of color

466
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Speaker 9: and they were arrested at numbers that are staggering when

467
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Speaker 9: you consider our population. We just locked up tons and

468
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 9: tons of black and brown people and this had devastating

469
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Speaker 9: effects on our communities. On the family structures on these

470
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Speaker 9: families opportunities to uh, to advance economically and socially.

471
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Speaker 10: Uh.

472
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Speaker 9: You know when you break up the family unit and

473
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Speaker 9: throw a mother, father, sister, brother in jail, that's devastating. Uh.

474
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 9: And this this was routinely done across the country, but

475
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 9: in numbers in the Los Angeles that are staggering.

476
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Speaker 5: And it's still going on. Oh yeah, it's still going

477
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Speaker 5: on to this day.

478
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Speaker 6: It's still disproportionately impacts the minority community.

479
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Speaker 5: Marijuana enforcement.

480
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Speaker 6: It's just it's it's continuing, and it's it's it's actually

481
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Speaker 6: disgusting that the leaders of our country have not changed things. Uh.

482
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Speaker 5: When we have a plant that over and over and

483
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 5: over and over.

484
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 6: Again, we know the health benefits from it, let alone

485
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Speaker 6: the economic benefits that could come from reasonable regulations of cannabis.

486
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Speaker 2: You know, I and I I've actually had some some

487
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 2: really good experiences for myself. Uh, you know, back in

488
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Speaker 2: the days when you know, normal was around. And Bruce, Bruce,

489
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Speaker 2: you know, has been in my life for for a

490
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Speaker 2: long time. You know, I would say in my twenties,

491
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Speaker 2: he used to come out to the Cottonmouth Kings events

492
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: in Hollywood and we would be on stage with a

493
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Speaker 2: bunch of our boys and stuff that were wrapping and whatnot.

494
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Speaker 2: And there was a group you know called the Cottonmouth

495
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 2: Kings at the time in Cypress Hill and Bruce would

496
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Speaker 2: come out to those events and preach, you know, about

497
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: Normal and about the movement of cannabis and how you

498
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: know it can help people. And if anybody needed his card,

499
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: it was Bruce Margolan and really yeah. So so you know,

500
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Speaker 2: I'm known Bruce for i mean many many years.

501
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Speaker 3: And one of the.

502
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Speaker 2: Things that that kind of was was shocking to me

503
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Speaker 2: is is I had a store here and you know

504
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: called Village Flora in Orange County and and I opened

505
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: that store up and you know, I was told that

506
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 2: I was going to get raided and and I remember,

507
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, they were saying, well, two things happened is

508
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: you know, contact Normal and tell them the moment it's happening.

509
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: And you know, they came out and you know and

510
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Speaker 2: did a whole you know protest in front of my store.

511
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Speaker 3: Normal yeah, oh oh.

512
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and then and then you're yeah, years later,

513
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Speaker 2: you know, I you know, I met Candace here in

514
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 2: Orange County. And Candace, I believe is probably the running

515
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: normal hero part of it.

516
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Speaker 9: She's my She's honestly truly my hero. She really helped

517
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 9: to bring me into the organization, showed me the path

518
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 9: and showed me how to be a proper Actice. Hurt

519
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 9: and Bruce really truly my my direct personal heroes in

520
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 9: helping get it.

521
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Speaker 2: Suit involved in this so so Candace and I, you know,

522
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Speaker 2: we met my Cannabis Talk one on one's first studio

523
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: and you know, and I was trying to explain to

524
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: her like, hey, you know, I think I was here,

525
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and she actually, uh, she was talking

526
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Speaker 2: to me about how, you know, they needed space to

527
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: do their meetings and whatnot. So I just literally was like,

528
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: here's the keys, and she's like, well, you're not going

529
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: to be here, and I'm like, nope, go ahead, and

530
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 2: she's liked, well, you know, here's the here's the password,

531
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: the alarm coade, you know, run your meetings and set

532
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: up shops. So she ran Canada out of Cannabis Talk

533
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Speaker 2: one on one. She ran the normal meetings for probably

534
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: i'd say six months or something.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I didn't I didn't know that. Yeah, she's awesome.

536
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 9: I want to say. She's been running Orange County Normal

537
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 9: for like seventeen years or something, and and the things

538
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 9: that she's accomplished here in Orange County, I've been really

539
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 9: truly staggering.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a great person. And like I said, for me,

541
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: you know, she ended up linking up with I think,

542
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: oh see something else Dispensary or something like that, and

543
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: doing it her meetings there. But you know, we we

544
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: gave her the floor for several months to just do

545
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: a thing here.

546
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Speaker 3: Creature. I had no idea.

547
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

548
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Speaker 4: But the one thing he didn't say was when he

549
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: went to go watch those bands, the cotton Mouth Kings,

550
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Speaker 4: he was also there to see Imperial Stars. I mean,

551
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 4: don't cut the band, short dog.

552
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: Come on.

553
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 4: Those who don't know, Okay, that was Blues Group, Imperial

554
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: Assassins one or the other, but that you know, google

555
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 4: the name and you'll see the clowns that shut down.

556
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 7: The one on one freeway and Blue on top of

557
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 7: that bus.

558
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Speaker 4: But you know this is true. I mean that's the

559
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: dope part when you think about things like that. You

560
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 4: were performing with those guys, so Normal has been around

561
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: for a long time.

562
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: You get involved. Fifteen years fifty year.

563
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: Was the sniff that made you even smell this corporation

564
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 4: or this this organization not corporation, Like, how did you

565
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: even find him?

566
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 9: Canvas? Honestly, how did.

567
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 3: You find Candas?

568
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 4: And what led you to finding let's take up for

569
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: people with cannabis and let's you know, be on this crusade.

570
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 9: It's hard to even remember where I'm at Candas now,

571
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 9: but it's probably some cannabis events somewhere along the way.

572
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 9: And and I recognized what she was doing, and I

573
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 9: and I saw her passion. And she's a volunteer also,

574
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 9: but she's, like I said, they've accomplished some amazing, amazing

575
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 9: things here in Orange County. So so I joined her organization,

576
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 9: joined the board down there and learned, you know, just

577
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 9: got involved and started learning.

578
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: So as we were talking to it, we're talking to

579
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Speaker 4: Ian Rassman, and he's the la you know, head of

580
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: normal as we're heard in eighty six different countries. And

581
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 4: someone's sitting here, let alone in the United States. How

582
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 4: do they get.

583
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 7: Involved in the normal in their area?

584
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 9: It's a great question. So there actually are normal Normal

585
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 9: was really started as an American thing to change our

586
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 9: laws here, but there are actually chapters all around the world.

587
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 9: I am connected up. I'm irish, I connected up with

588
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 9: a chapter in Ireland. I'm like, wow, this is great

589
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 9: really and you know their laws are just terrible over there.

590
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 9: So you can go to normal dot org and you

591
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 9: can find all the chapters that are around the country

592
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 9: and even around the world, and there's contact information and

593
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 9: reach out to your local chapter. But it's really important,

594
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 9: I think, to get involved, to do something. If you

595
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 9: want to support this injury as a consumer and you

596
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 9: want to see it grow, then you should get involved,

597
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 9: because we're not things are not settled yet, right, Oh.

598
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 5: How far from it? I mean, And if anything, at

599
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 5: a minimum followed nor go to.

600
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Speaker 6: Normal's page and they have pre written letters to your representatives,

601
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 6: whether state federal. You put in your zip code and

602
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 6: it comes up with who you're supposed to send it to.

603
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 6: They have pre written letters and support of cannabis and

604
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 6: cannabis laws and bills. And at the minimum, go on

605
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 6: and take that move, I mean, And that's such a

606
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 6: minimum thing to get off your button do and support

607
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 6: of this plan. If you don't want to go out

608
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 6: and do stuff and go to meetings and get like

609
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 6: that active, at least do that. And it's so simple

610
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 6: to go in there and support with the resources that

611
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 6: are on Normal's website. It's just ridiculous that that's available

612
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 6: and so easy. We just need more people to do it.

613
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 6: As Dana Warbacher told us years ago, that the only

614
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 6: thing politicians understand is getting reelected. So you add in

615
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 6: the form letters that are written for you. You don't

616
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 6: vote how I want you to vote. In my area,

617
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 6: We're going to.

618
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 5: Vote you out. You know what I like about Normal?

619
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Speaker 5: Going back to the beginning.

620
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Speaker 8: You know, you can talk about Margolan and Keith Stroop,

621
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Speaker 8: one of the uh Ian correct.

622
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Speaker 10: Me if I'm wrong.

623
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Speaker 8: I believe one of the one of the founding board

624
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Speaker 8: members was a fellow name Hunter Thompson.

625
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 9: Yeah. I believe he was on the advisory board of

626
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Speaker 9: directors with Keith.

627
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, and he's a guy who believed in the legalization

628
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 10: of all drugs and in fact, now up in Aspen

629
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Speaker 10: when they have Normal meetings, you know, they do those

630
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 10: twice a year, well before COVID, and they have that big.

631
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 8: Party up at Hunter Thompson's ranch with his wife, and

632
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Speaker 8: I'd been there a couple of times if you had

633
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Speaker 8: a chance to go there.

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Speaker 9: Ian No, but that sounds pretty awesome, Mark.

635
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 8: Well, and the cool thing about it, and I still

636
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 8: have a picture. If you've seen the movie Fear and

637
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 8: Loathing in Las Vegas. Of course, Thompson and they got

638
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 8: that convertible red car. That is his actual car. And

639
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 8: that car, yep, that car remains in his shed that

640
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 8: he has on the property.

641
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: His wife keeps it.

642
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: And I wasn't supposed to go in there.

643
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 5: All the heads of normal when.

644
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 8: I was like three or four years ago that I

645
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 8: went stay out of that garage. I went in there,

646
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 8: I sat in there, I took some pictures of the car.

647
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 7: I'm sure after a few drinks, I'm sure you did this.

648
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 9: Absolutely an iconic car, no doubt.

649
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 4: Mark saw I'm just gonna go in there a little tipsy,

650
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: I'm high, I'm drunk, whatever not, Mark Ian, I want

651
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 4: to talk about the More Act. I mean, you know,

652
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 4: the More Act is there on the table. Of course,

653
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: Mark Washerman is gonna crap on it like he always does.

654
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts as he's shaking his head and

655
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: going crazy in his car right now? What are your

656
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: thoughts on the More Act and how people support this?

657
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 9: Wow?

658
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: I wish you would right now. I wasn't talking to you, Mark,

659
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: I'm talking to Ian please.

660
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 9: So the MORE Act, Actually it's really important. If this

661
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Speaker 9: legislation went all the way through, it would easily be

662
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Speaker 9: the most substantial piece of reform that we've seen in

663
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Speaker 9: the last fifty years of Normal's history. So MORE what

664
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Speaker 9: A stand for Marijuana Opportunity, Reinvestment and Expungement Act. Very briefly,

665
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 9: it decriminalizes marijuana and specifically removes marijuana from the list

666
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 9: of scheduled substances under the Controlled Substances Act. And it

667
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 9: eliminates criminal penalties for individuals who manufacture, distribute, or possess marijuana.

668
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Speaker 9: This is very critical. There's a critical distinction here in

669
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 9: descheduling rather than rescheduling. And I don't think any of

670
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 9: us are interested in a reschedule of this. To go

671
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 9: from Schedule one to Schedule two. I mean, that really

672
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 9: doesn't push us forward. It needs to be descheduled. It

673
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 9: needs to be more like alcohol and tobacco and you know,

674
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 9: regulated and whatnot, but you know, not not scheduled like

675
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 9: a like a dangerous drug.

676
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: I think it's a it's you're very right about that.

677
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: I think what's happened is they've categorized it with the

678
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: most powerful rugs on the planet, heroin co heroin cocaine.

679
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: These are manufactured. These are manufactured chemicals put together to

680
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: create a high. Whereas this is a plant that is

681
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: very organic and you can.

682
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: Grow on the side of the freeway and it literally.

683
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: Is in a lot of places. I mean a lot

684
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: of people don't know this, but when you're driving through Kentucky,

685
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: you know there's there's cannabis right there on the side

686
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: of the road.

687
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: It grows like a weed, just grows like.

688
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: A weed on the side of the road.

689
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Speaker 9: And you should be one of their biggest exports.

690
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: Yeah sometime.

691
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, And a lot of people don't even know that.

692
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: Like I was actually a funny story. This is a

693
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: legit story. Driving through there one time years ago, dude,

694
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: and I'm loaded up with something I don't know what

695
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: it was, and I'm looking over to the side and

696
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, that I was like weed right there.

697
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: Your stories And we're.

698
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: Looking at the side of it and I'm going there,

699
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: no way, and my buddy's like, that is weed right there,

700
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: but I'm like, no, it's not weed. I literally pulled

701
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: over and I'm thinking, well, should I be pulling over

702
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: with leading the car, you know, I don't want to

703
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: pull over and look at this way. And I'm pulling

704
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: over and I'm walking up and sure enough there's nugs

705
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: on a plant thing and I'm like, no way, dude,

706
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: we just grab a few at least. Yeah, And I

707
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: was gonna grab some of my buddies like don't touch it.

708
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: And I'm like why, It's like it's trash, bro it'll

709
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: you know, you'll get a headache. It doesn't get you high,

710
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: and this and that. It's mainly for this and that,

711
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: and they actually created they grow it. There's farmers out there.

712
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 2: They're growing it all along the freeway and they're growing

713
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: it for like different purposes. But they they take they're

714
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: they're extracting all the TSG out of they're using it.

715
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure for whatever, CBS whatever you know there

716
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: there's yeah, yeah, it's really right there on the side

717
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: of the freeways.

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Speaker 6: The problem with the More Act is this tell me,

719
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Speaker 6: unless we flipped the Senate, it will die on the

720
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Speaker 6: floor of the Senate.

721
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Speaker 5: It's already happened. It's already happened with.

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Speaker 7: Marijuana year old guys about because.

723
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Speaker 6: Flipped the house and even then we may need the

724
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 6: supermajority to overcome a freaking veto bib If Biden wins,

725
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 6: which I hopefully he will, you know, he's not pro cannabis.

726
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 5: He wants people to get rehab. Still he's got his

727
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 5: head up his ass.

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Speaker 9: I can't believe all the all the candidates that rose,

729
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 9: all the candidates him. At the end of the day,

730
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 9: the House of Representatives have already moved. If we flip

731
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 9: the Senate, I think Biden's gonna have no choice but

732
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 9: to sign whatever is put in front of him. And

733
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Speaker 9: if they don't, I think they might be able to

734
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Speaker 9: come up with the majority, hopefully to override the veto.

735
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Speaker 9: But if he vetoed some kind of bill like that,

736
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Speaker 9: I think that would be hell to pay. So of course,

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Speaker 9: Kamala Harris is from California, so she's you know.

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Speaker 3: She's got it.

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Speaker 6: She's got his ear, but he's still he's still got the.

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Speaker 3: Old She's from Oakland, Dog.

741
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Speaker 4: I think she's gonna represent the town and you know

742
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: she's gonna represent California.

743
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Speaker 3: That's her past. But she's wrecked.

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00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: When she was doing her job, she did stow the

745
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: hammer down, but she's really loosened up on. Yeah, she

746
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: was doing her job and hopefully she does her job

747
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: and represents.

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Speaker 3: For the people.

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Speaker 9: Has signed on, she sponsors do her job.

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Speaker 3: She has do you hear this? Do you do you

751
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: knuckle aheads here?

752
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 9: And she she is a supporter of the More Act.

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00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 6: Oh, I understand absolutely no. Since she's you know, since

754
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 6: her time as a prosecutor, she's become more progressive as

755
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 6: far as legalizing cannabis and things like that, which I

756
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 6: understand that, and I think she's far ahead of the game.

757
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 6: She's much farther ahead of the game than Biden is

758
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 6: as far as her thoughts on decriminalizing completely and taking

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00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 6: it out and descheduling it and letting the states decide.

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Speaker 9: Isn't it sad though that we have, uh today greater

761
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 9: than sixty six percent of the population supporting decriminalizing and

762
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 9: and just stop making a crime and only cannabis. Yeah,

763
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 9: sixty six and one or two points every year. So

764
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 9: it's continuously climbing.

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Speaker 6: The representatives aren't listening. Why don't they listen to the

766
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 6: people that elect them?

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00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, every state. I think it's more

768
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: than their their thought process. I think it's that Uh,

769
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: the world's got to catch up. I mean, you know

770
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: there's a lot of elder folks out there that they no, no, no,

771
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: that's what That's what I'm saying. The we're almost like

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00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: a bumper car. We're pushing them out of position, do

773
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like they're sitting in there

774
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: and they're in the front seat, still driving, and it's

775
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, no no, and it's like you bump

776
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: them and they always don't just pop off.

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00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: You know, you physically got.

778
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 5: To this train right now and it ain't gonna stop.

779
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: You know, I agree, the train is coming, but the

780
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: train hasn't got derailed yet. You know, to put the new,

781
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: the new folks in in the Senate, in the in

782
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: the places where anybody out there and.

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00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: Vote, yeah, we're working on that.

784
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 6: Or very simply, you could probably go to normal I know,

785
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 6: I googled it just candidate the favor of marijuana.

786
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 9: Or the vote. A whole campaign called smoke the Vote.

787
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 7: And what does that explain a little morean go to

788
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 7: normal dot vote.

789
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 9: Yeah, go to normal dot org and you can follow

790
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 9: along and smoke the vote and you can see who's supporting, uh,

791
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 9: the legislation in different areas, and you know who you

792
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 9: can vote for. I want to stay on the More

793
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 9: Act for a moment if we can, because this so

794
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 9: and Craig, to go back to something to what you

795
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 9: said about the form letters that we put out on

796
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 9: our website. So I'm going to talk for a minute

797
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 9: specifically about what the More Act could mean for Los Angeles, Right, Okay,

798
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 9: So the More Act, as it may affect Los Angeles

799
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 9: due to our large population. The passage of this bill

800
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 9: may release federal money and assistants disproportionately to LA County.

801
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 9: There are eleven members of Congress in LA that could

802
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 9: have influence in the passage of this legislation. So we

803
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 9: wrote letters to these representatives asking them to sign on

804
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 9: to this legislation and support it, and we gave them

805
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 9: the bullet points that I'm about to give you here

806
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 9: to explain why they should do so. And we also

807
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 9: reached out to our community, Craig, with those letters that

808
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 9: you're talking about, the pre formatted letter that they could

809
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 9: send these eleven representatives like this is your representative copy paste,

810
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 9: tell them that you support this. So what could this

811
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 9: do for LA Expungement? Number one? The More Act would

812
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 9: expunge the records of those with prior cannabis convictions, and

813
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 9: a study by the Government Accountability Office found that Los

814
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 9: Angeles County had the most per capita cannabis arrests of

815
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 9: any major county in the United States during the period

816
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 9: of nineteen eighty to twenty ten. Los Angeles County residents

817
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 9: would thus disproportionately benefit from a policy that would expunge

818
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 9: cannabis convictions, which often functions as a significant barrier to

819
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 9: obtaining employment and other critical benefits. So at the time,

820
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 9: at a time of pressing economic need, the More Act

821
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 9: would provide a boost to some of the county's more

822
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 9: vulnerable residents. That's expungement. Immigration. We all know what a

823
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 9: sensitive topic that is nationally and here in Los Angeles.

824
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 9: It's the core part of our story. Right. Let's not

825
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 9: forget that the More Act would also protect immigrants from

826
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 9: being denied citizenship because they work in the cannabis industry

827
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 9: and remove the threat of deportation for those immigrants involved

828
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Speaker 9: in minor cannabis violations. Immigrants make up more than thirty

829
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Speaker 9: five percent of the population of Los Angeles County, higher

830
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Speaker 9: than any other major county in the United States and

831
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Speaker 9: the More Act would thus provide critical protections to a

832
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 9: substantial percentage of county residents and help ensure that they

833
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 9: can participate in the growing cannabis economy without fear of

834
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Speaker 9: reprisals by the federal government.

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Speaker 2: You know this, this, you know, this is directly affects

836
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Speaker 2: me because what you know, I know plenty of my

837
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: friends that I grew up with that have gotten little

838
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: little charges that were you know, they've got caught with

839
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: you know, five or five pounds of weed back in

840
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Speaker 2: the day, and they're trying to deport them even half

841
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Speaker 2: ounces forgot, you know, I mean less than that. The

842
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: half bounce is not not so much unless they had

843
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: criminal records with that. But you know, four or five pounds,

844
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: I think it was over three pounds that they would

845
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: they were trying to deport you you know. And this

846
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: is somebody that was not like that didn't just hop

847
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: to the border. And he was born here, bro like

848
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,240
Speaker 2: his whole family was born here. I mean his parents

849
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: weren't born here, but I mean him and his brother

850
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: were brought here like an age of like, you know,

851
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: two years old, where they you know, they've been their

852
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 2: entire life there they've graduated high school, they're going to Collegeulous.

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00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 6: I had a story I was going to post the

854
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 6: other day and never got out of posting it. But

855
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 6: it was called a puff too far And it's a

856
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 6: DACA resident, someone who's eligible for the DACA program had

857
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 6: to go back to Mexico for some reason and during

858
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 6: the pandemic and all this other crap that happened. I'm

859
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 6: we're not immigration attorney, so I don't know the exact details.

860
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 6: But on his way back in he I don't know

861
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Speaker 6: if he had to go back to Mexico to fill

862
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 6: out certain papers in order to come back here, he

863
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 6: had to answer whether he smoked weed or not. He

864
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 6: admitted that he did, and that kills the immigration process

865
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Speaker 6: standing in Mexico now. How critical that people are making

866
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Speaker 6: millions and millions of dollars and this poor kid who

867
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 6: took admitted to taking a puff, is now precluded from

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Speaker 6: coming into the United States.

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Speaker 3: We hold how, asked back?

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Speaker 2: Is that hold that, Doc Craig.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this break.

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Speaker 8: Welcome back, Welcome back to Cannabis Dot one oh one

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Speaker 8: Brothers at.

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Speaker 3: And we are here with Ian from.

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Speaker 8: Normal and you know, right now, before we get to

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Speaker 8: the big high five, we got got to get back

878
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 8: to Ian because we were a discrigore on cannabis and

879
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 8: specifically it's impact on Los Angeles.

880
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 5: Ian, what else you got to say about it?

881
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, so this is really a core part of our

882
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 9: story on who Los Angeles Normal is. So Number one,

883
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 9: a couple of things about Los Angeles as the most

884
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 9: populous county in the United States, with over ten million people,

885
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 9: LA has a population greater than forty one individual states,

886
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 9: I know, right, So, and we are arguably the largest

887
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 9: cannabis friendly city on the planet, right, I mean, that's

888
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 9: nobody would dispute that. So today a significant portion of

889
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 9: the California cannabis industry considers LA home. And there's no

890
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 9: doubt that significant cannabis dollars are flowing through our streets, right, I.

891
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 7: Mean in the Bay Area as well.

892
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: I mean, of course it's coming from Yeah, you know,

893
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: the trifles for sure, but yeah, Los Angeles is definitely

894
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: the ports too. They're putting on there, get rid of

895
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 4: it whatever, Yeah, they use.

896
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: The ports show.

897
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 9: However, when it comes to cannabis, there's a great dichotomy

898
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 9: between lost the Los Angeles of today and the Los

899
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 9: Angeles of the past. Right So, LA is well known

900
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 9: around the world as this large melting pot with people

901
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 9: from all over the place. And due to our large

902
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 9: numbers and diverse population, we have a significant population of black, brown,

903
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 9: and minority residents in LA. Right So, the war on

904
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 9: drugs in the seventies, eighties, nineties, and two thousands ravage

905
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 9: these community, these locking people up in massive numbers. Today,

906
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 9: with all the cannabis dollars flowing through Los Angeles, it's

907
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 9: vitally and morally important to consider social equity measures and

908
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 9: criminal expungement that specifically address these communities. Right, So, opportunity

909
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 9: must be created to ensure that the community's most negatively

910
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 9: negatively impacted by cannabis criminalization will now benefit from this

911
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 9: new regulated market. So this is really an important part.

912
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: And how does that happen?

913
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: And I love the stats and facts about it, but

914
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 4: how does the execution happen? How do the black and

915
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 4: brown get to benefit from this?

916
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 9: Well, so, we do have a social equity program in LA,

917
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 9: and I'm glad that we have one, but I think

918
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 9: it's yeah, I know, I know, So short there's no doubt.

919
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: Tell the truth about it. What do you mean, don't

920
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: fall short?

921
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll jump in. And just because I'm a minority,

922
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: it's probably easier for me to say this is that,

923
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of unsophisticated people that have

924
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: gotten these licenses, that don't know how to operate businesses.

925
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: So when you have are the minority Oh no, no, no,

926
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: just now with the social No no, the social acty

927
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: program is different than that.

928
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 6: These people don't even aren't getting anything because the system

929
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 6: was set up unfairly well, hold on how people and

930
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 6: how people applied for social equity in the first place.

931
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: We're not talking.

932
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 6: About so the people who were already you're in, they

933
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 6: were in on pre icos.

934
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: They were talking about the people that got them, and

935
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 2: then and then now that they have them, you've got

936
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: so me and you. Let's see, you're a multimillionairere investor.

937
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: And and I'm sitting here with this but being a

938
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 2: minority black and the minority right, and I'm saying here, less,

939
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: let's go into business.

940
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: I have to put the money up.

941
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: I have to own fifty one percent, which means I

942
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: have complete control of your money, your business everything that

943
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: you're throwing at me. Okay, so, which is very difficult

944
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: for someone that just you.

945
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: Know, I give you two million dollars and say you're

946
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 4: going to take fifty one percent of it.

947
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I that's minority.

948
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: It's not that's not that you know, no, no, you

949
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: know so.

950
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 7: And you can also do a third and then and then.

951
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: That though the actual the actual stuff that went down

952
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: inside of Los Angeles, I mean we're talking Los Angeles minority.

953
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: You know, there was there was a lot of the

954
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: portals opened up early. People knew about that, they were

955
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: utilizing it, that other people heard about the So now

956
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: you've also got some kind of a sneaky like you know,

957
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: I would say, suspicion of foul play and and and

958
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: so you know, and and then people. Yeah, they gave

959
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: everybody an opportunity to.

960
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 3: To what's the outcome.

961
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 6: They know they're giving out an extra hundred licenses. They

962
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 6: did a whole research and report by some guy who

963
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 6: said that the people that got in early were normalized.

964
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 6: So whatever that means that their number was put where

965
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 6: it should have been if they had logged in at

966
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 6: the right time.

967
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 5: And uh, that's what they found.

968
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 6: There was a lawsuit against the city because of all

969
00:46:55,560 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 6: the early sign ins a an alleged potential fraud, and

970
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 6: got settled on the eve of a restraining order hearing,

971
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 6: and that's when the city allowed one hundred more in.

972
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 6: And they're gonna give that, I believe the next round.

973
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 6: They're changing the next round from first come, first serve

974
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 6: to a lottery system, so it won't matter as long

975
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 6: as you apply within a certain window, you're gonna be

976
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 6: up for a lottery. And then no one can complain

977
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 6: they got in early or you know, there was fraud.

978
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 6: There still may well be allegations of fraud every turn

979
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 6: in any type of situation like this, But they're turning

980
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 6: it into a.

981
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 5: Lottery from a first come, first serve.

982
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 6: But they are giving out an extra hundred in what

983
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 6: was Phase three, round one of social equity retail.

984
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 5: And they're furthermore not going to give.

985
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 6: Out any licenses I believe, until twenty twenty five, only

986
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 6: to social equity applicants. They're coming down more stringent on

987
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 6: the social equity applicants deals in paperwork with the incubator

988
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 6: or the person who's funding them.

989
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 5: I mean, it is brutal, it's brutal that.

990
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: You know, in Oakland they put.

991
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 6: Up all the money and there and they have to

992
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 6: be fifty one percent in control of the business.

993
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 2: Well, in Oakland they were giving out grants as well,

994
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 2: you know, and the.

995
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 5: Oakland's a different animal.

996
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: I have not.

997
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 6: I actually got a client that a potential client that

998
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 6: I got to look into the Oakland program. I'm really

999
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 6: not sure exactly what that program's like. But here in

1000
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 6: LA it's it's brutal because there were a lot of

1001
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 6: big companies coming in trying to circumvent the rules on

1002
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 6: the social equity applicant.

1003
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 5: Being in control.

1004
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 6: And I represented several of the social equity applicants and

1005
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 6: my response was, they want to get in if they

1006
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 6: want to wait till twenty twenty five, where you don't

1007
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 6: need to be a social elect applicant anything. Anybody can

1008
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 6: apply if you can find the property in his zone

1009
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 6: that's not undue concentrated. If you want to get in

1010
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 6: now on the back of somebody who was arrested, gone

1011
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 6: to jail, incarcerated, you know, that's what it's going to cost.

1012
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 6: But I mean, I understand the issue though with man,

1013
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 6: I'm giving this person fifty and you.

1014
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: Know, it's a tough field as well.

1015
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 2: I I I set with some of these these applicants myself,

1016
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: and and to be honest with.

1017
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 5: You, just don't try to screw me.

1018
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: No, I well, I had to walk away because I

1019
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: knew that they just didn't have the ability to operate

1020
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: the business that I was looking to move forward to.

1021
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: And so in that situation, and I could just have

1022
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: the conversation with them and go, no, man, you know,

1023
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, there's no way I'm gonna pony up a

1024
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: million dollars to give you know what, But I'm I

1025
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: could have found one. But but there were several out

1026
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: there that didn't have that ability to operate. You know.

1027
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 6: You know what's nice in this in this what they've

1028
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 6: done is in the next round is because everybody in

1029
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 6: the first round have already secured property, because that was

1030
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 6: the requirement when you filed for your life to get.

1031
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 9: Into very expensive requirement.

1032
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 5: What was that?

1033
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 9: The very expensive requirement?

1034
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 5: That very expensive took that out, So they took that out.

1035
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 6: So in the second round, you're gonna have, if you

1036
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 6: if you get the picked as a lottery recipient, you're

1037
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 6: gonna have up to a year to find property, right

1038
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 6: because because now, I mean people are fucking I had

1039
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 6: a lot of people that had to bail out because

1040
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 6: you know they're already.

1041
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 9: Holding properties for a year.

1042
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I tell of that money tool, that property lottery

1043
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 6: or no lottery, you're gonna be after carrying property for

1044
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 6: quite a while until you get you know, you've better

1045
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 6: budget that in and carrying the property.

1046
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 9: It's prohibitively expensive to go through the process.

1047
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 6: Right, So at least in this round, they are getting

1048
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 6: rid of that requirement, which I think will help a

1049
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 6: lot of applicants. You know, they'll be worth a lot

1050
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 6: when they get their authorization if they're picked in the

1051
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 6: lottery to be able to go market or go find

1052
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 6: the partners that aren't that aren't going to screw them.

1053
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 9: So there's no doubt that there were a lot of

1054
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 9: questions over the last round of licenses that we're given out,

1055
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 9: and some irregularities and people getting in first and whatnot.

1056
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 9: But let's let's be honest about the number we're talking

1057
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 9: about here. We're talking about one hundred licenses. You guys like,

1058
00:50:59,560 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 9: it's not.

1059
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 7: Grand number one one one hundred.

1060
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 9: Let's let's put that into perspective. Let's I wish I

1061
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 9: was sitting in front of Google right now. But let's

1062
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 9: put that into perspective. For some of the other states

1063
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 9: that have cannabis programs, places like Oklahoma, Colorado, they're per

1064
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 9: popular per capita access to cannabis in terms of retail locations,

1065
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 9: dwarfs are access to cannabis. Here in California.

1066
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 4: So there's so many liquor stores everywhere, exactly, there's liquor

1067
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 4: store in every freaking corner.

1068
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: Why can't throw a cannabis.

1069
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 4: Store in every corner and lower prices and let people

1070
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 4: do what they need to do, Let.

1071
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 9: The market sort it out.

1072
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 8: All the criminals rings in the criminals, they say, isn't

1073
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 8: that crazy that that's the out like the criminals.

1074
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: And not only that, you hear all.

1075
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 6: The studies said, All the studies have clearly showed the opposite.

1076
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, opposite, Yeah, yeah.

1077
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: Well.

1078
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 2: I think what's gonna happen though, is that I think

1079
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: a lot of these new operators that are getting in

1080
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: now will suffer later because there is going to be

1081
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: that time where it does become into Walmart's and liquor stores.

1082
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: It's gonna be sold, I believe, just like a pack

1083
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: of cigarettes, and when that happens. You're still going to

1084
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: have your dispensary owner.

1085
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: That's like, man, what happens?

1086
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 7: Just like the liquor store owner. Right because the liquor

1087
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 7: store owner.

1088
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: Now you can go to Costco and by the bottle

1089
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 4: of Kirkland that's that bottle of gray Goose one.

1090
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 2: Hundred percent of it. Yeah, so I think, yeah, that's

1091
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: the cup right here. Player, look at up what oh

1092
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: backpack boys eliminates the backpack boys.

1093
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 5: I think it's time for the high five.

1094
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I would agree with you.

1095
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: So many things we could talk to Ian about, but

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Speaker 4: it's now time for the high five with Ian Rassman

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Speaker 4: from Los Angeles Normal. It's so great to hear everything

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Speaker 4: you have to say, and I appreciate you doing what

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00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 4: you do yes for the community and representing that black

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Speaker 4: and brown like you do. I mean, I just really

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Speaker 4: want to say that I appreciate you for doing that

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Speaker 4: and sticking your neck out for folks like us and

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00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: appreciate you.

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Speaker 9: Thank you you guys. You guys have been such great

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00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 9: supporters of Normal right from the get go, so I

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00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 9: really have to thank you for your support. I brought

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00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 9: a small little gift to get you guys caught up

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Speaker 9: with Mark. I see Mark's representing, always representing. Yeah, there

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00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 9: you go, brother, Oh, Mark is always representing. So I

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00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 9: brought you guys a pen. Also, now you're going to

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00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 9: struggle to represent as well as Mark over there because

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00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 9: he's got some fancy duds. But Joe, you've lost some weight,

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Speaker 9: so I know you're going to represent.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for noticing you never.

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Speaker 9: Lost a decent amount of eight since I saw you last.

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00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's because I've been carrying Mark around the show

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00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: so much that it's, you know, helps me lose.

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Speaker 9: Craig, Craig, here's one with Joe's fat. No, Craig, here's

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00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 9: one for you. Who can I trust to give it

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Speaker 9: to you?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 2: Just stick it to No, no, no, give it to the

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Speaker 2: black guy.

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Speaker 5: He said, give it to I trust him the most.

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Speaker 3: See that Pinocchio. Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Question high five. Question number one with Ian Rassman from

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Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Normal. How old are you the first

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Speaker 4: time you got high?

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Speaker 7: And where'd you get it from?

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00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 9: Let's see, I was nineteen in college. I was fairly late,

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00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 9: and I.

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00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 3: Suppose what school did you go to?

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00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 9: I was up at questa question?

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00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: Where's that?

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00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: Oh, nice. Okay, a little bit up.

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Speaker 9: North, yeah, cool, right up in central coast.

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Speaker 2: Question number two of the High Five.

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00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 3: I guess what is your best what?

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00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 5: What?

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00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 9: What?

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00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, to use cannabis.

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00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 9: I suppose back in the day it was a traditional flower,

1144
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 9: like a joint, just a joint. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Nice.

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00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Greig.

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Speaker 2: Number three, question number three of the High Five with

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Speaker 2: Ian of Normal Los Angeles chapter Craziest place You've ever

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00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: used or smoked it?

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Speaker 9: Oh my goodness, going back, you know, you've sparked a

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00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 9: memory about the standing on the bus. I was in Australia,

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Speaker 9: I think in two thousand or two thousand and one,

1153
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 9: doing a tour along the East coast, and you end

1154
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 9: up in Byron Bay and suddenly you're like, oh man,

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00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 9: I'm like thirty minutes from Nimben. Nimben is like the

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00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 9: Venice Beach of like off the books, you know, back

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Speaker 9: as it was in the eighties, off the book sort

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00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 9: of place to go, and it was well known that

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Speaker 9: the police didn't crack down on it or anything there.

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Speaker 9: So headed off to Nimben on a little, you know,

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Speaker 9: ten person shuttle bus with a bunch of other tourists, backpackers,

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00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 9: we get up there. There's there's a two dispensaries in town.

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00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 9: It's small town. It's one street, maybe one intersection, two

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Speaker 9: dispensaries and a Hemp cannabis museum with the claims of

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00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 9: the world's biggest joint. So I go into dispensary, get

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00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 9: what I was looking for, and I go out and

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00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 9: consumed a little bit right there in the dispensary, and

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Speaker 9: then I head out to go check out the museum.

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00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 9: I come out of the museum and there's police cars everywhere,

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00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 9: like oh no, oh yeah. So the police showed up

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00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 9: with dogs and went in to raid the dispensaries. I

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00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 9: swear to God on the this was like tolerated and

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00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 9: nimben and the one freaking day I go there, the

1174
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Speaker 9: police decided to make an example of it and crack down.

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Speaker 9: And they went into the dispensary and arrested mostly tourists.

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00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 9: I don't think they actually arrested them, but they sort

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Speaker 9: of processed them and brought them out. I come out

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00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 9: of the museum feeling pretty good. I see what's going on.

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00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 9: I'm like starting to get the shakes going.

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Speaker 2: Shit.

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Speaker 9: I was just in there five minutes ago, and they

1182
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 9: brought drug dogs in and if the dog sat down

1183
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Speaker 9: next to you.

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Speaker 3: Just watching from a distance car, Oh.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know any of those one. So anyway,

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00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 9: but they did release all the tourists. We get back

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00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 9: on the bus. The tour guide's like, okay, that was

1188
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 9: That's not the ruble tour that week. So we're going

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00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 9: to go to a little park and unwind, and so

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Speaker 9: we did. We headed off to this little hill overlooking

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00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 9: a lake and sat down and everybody talked about how

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00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 9: they got busted by the police on their tourist visit

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Speaker 9: to Australia.

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Speaker 3: Wow, what a high and a low guy.

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00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 9: So the bus thing, this guy and a whole bunch

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00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 9: of counter protesters showed up for this thing too. So

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00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 9: you have this bush like a hippie old school bus

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Speaker 9: converted and painted rainbow colors all of the place in

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Speaker 9: this guy and like a green one piece jumpsuit like

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Speaker 9: the Riddler from Batman gets up and he starts with

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Speaker 9: this microphone on the top of the bus and he's

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Speaker 9: rallying people and like there's this chant when the dog

1203
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 9: when the police dogs got out of the car, they

1204
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 9: start this chat who let the dogs out? And like

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00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 9: the crowds shot back exactly. That was That was absolutely

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Speaker 9: probably one of my more wild cannabis experience because I

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Speaker 9: was on the more or less the good side of

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Speaker 9: that experience.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, if you're not getting cuffs on, you're always on.

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Speaker 3: The good side.

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Speaker 9: By by minutes, by literally just minute. I missed that one.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic.

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Speaker 3: That was a blessing.

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Speaker 8: Definitely one of the crazier stories we heard. All right, Ian,

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Speaker 8: we are on question number four of the Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 8: one on one high five. What go too, Munchie when

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00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 8: you get hot a.

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00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 9: Crowd? Ice cream? I suppose ice cream?

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00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: What kind of ice cream? Yeah?

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00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: Species?

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00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 9: What kind of ice cream? And ice cream is ice cream?

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00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: I had some last night.

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00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 3: I had what kind you have?

1224
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: I had the strawberry shortcake, the delicious yeah from the

1225
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: ice cream chuck.

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 4: I like, you know, you know, it's funny because I

1228
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 4: just got my son for the first time. I got

1229
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 4: on one of those taco ice creams, and he's Choco Taco. Yeah,

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00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 4: Chaco Taco. And at first, I'm like, let's get a

1231
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 4: taco I. He looks at me sideways. I'm like, no,

1232
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: I go, They're really good. But he's looking at the list,

1233
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 4: and he's allergic to red dye. So he's like, he's

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00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 4: very limited what kind of ice cream you can get?

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Speaker 2: Right?

1236
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: So he finally the size on the this is about

1237
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 4: two weeks ago he had it. He goes, I give

1238
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: my daughter a bite of it. Oh my god, They're

1239
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 4: like hooked.

1240
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Speaker 3: Where can we get more?

1241
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: What if I got the UFO is good too?

1242
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: Though?

1243
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, UFOs specially those are all bombed right there.

1244
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 4: Okay, question number five with a high five Ian, if

1245
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: you could smoke cannabis with anyone.

1246
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 9: Lie, you know, I think I'm gonna go with Stephen

1247
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 9: Hawking or Copernicus or Galilee or somebody that really had

1248
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 9: that was responsible for some profound discoveries about our place

1249
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 9: in the universe and really how small we are in

1250
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 9: comparison to the scientist. Yeah. I'm a huge cosmology fan,

1251
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 9: just a big nerd when it comes to space, and

1252
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 9: I think that would be cool to sit down and

1253
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 9: have a philosophical conversation. You know, why are we here

1254
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 9: with with some of those.

1255
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 4: How did you come up with the theories and how

1256
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 4: did you figure out all this?

1257
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: What is your theory?

1258
00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 8: Now?

1259
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: Though? Real quick, let's just go to that. That's by

1260
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: taking another show, I know.

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Speaker 4: And it's so you know, it's funny as you say that,

1262
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 4: I can trip out on that sometimes too. Not only

1263
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 4: like when did they figure out it was round? When

1264
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: did they figure out space? When did you guys figure

1265
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 4: out the different planets? And there's a new planet in

1266
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 4: this and that it's just like it's so baffling. Sometimes

1267
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 4: you feel like your stones.

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01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, you have to sort of think about

1269
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 9: that sometimes when you look at what's going on in

1270
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 9: the world today, and you know, just just try and

1271
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 9: keep it in perspective. You know, we're just on this

1272
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 9: tiny little rock in the corner of the universe that

1273
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 9: nobody knows about, spinning around this hot wall of fire,

1274
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 9: and you know, and there you have it. So try

1275
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 9: and do some good each day and you don't feel

1276
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 9: good about yourself.

1277
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Speaker 4: That was a great way to wrap it up. Brother,

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01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 4: anything else you want to plug before we let you.

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01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 9: Go, please do come support us at Los Angeles Normal.

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01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 9: I mean, we are an all volunteer organization, so we're

1281
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 9: definitely looking for people in the community that have energy

1282
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 9: to give and want to join us. Please come check

1283
01:00:54,320 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 9: out l anormal dot org. We do regular public monthly

1284
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 9: meetings where we bring in educational speakers, celebrities. Are you

1285
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 9: guys came on to our show? That was fantastic appreciated

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 9: having you guys on our show a few months ago.

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Speaker 2: Just the Pod Brothers No All for you guys.

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Speaker 3: Was that there were we there. You guys don't even remember,

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Speaker 3: see they don't.

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Speaker 8: They just put it on when.

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Speaker 3: You're no no.

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Speaker 2: That was the actually pre recorded. That was pre recorded.

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Speaker 2: That was a pre recorded show.

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Speaker 3: Mark I remember we came.

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Speaker 9: That was the Tommy Chong show. We had Tommy.

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Speaker 11: That's right, Okay, now the group yeah and so so definitely, look,

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Speaker 11: we're definitely looking right now for volunteers in our marketing.

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01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 9: Government affairs, membership, and community aren't reach departments.

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Speaker 3: So please, if you.

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Speaker 9: Have some energy to give to pushing this industry forward,

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Speaker 9: please do reach out to us. These public monthly meetings

1302
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Speaker 9: that we do are free and they're on the third

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01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 9: Wednesday of each month at four pm and you can

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Speaker 9: check us out on Facebook. It's Los Angeles Normal, LinkedIn

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Speaker 9: l A Normal and Instagram at Los Angeles Normal.

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Speaker 3: There it is there. It is guys.

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Speaker 8: Let me let me say one other thing really quick

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Speaker 8: to Ian I recently had a quick conversation with Keith Stroup, who,

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Speaker 8: as you mentioned, the founder of Normal years ago. He

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01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 8: is going to be coming on Cannabi's Talk one on

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Speaker 8: one shortly.

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Speaker 9: At Fantastic Yeah him. Goodness, that guy has got some stories.

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Speaker 9: I mean he has he has the stories. Oh my goodness. Yeah,

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