Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why would look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, let's calling
Speaker 1: and we're calling. Um, we're calling you all. We're calling,
Speaker 1: calling all of you to the center that is culture
Speaker 1: for an important announcement. Oh please, are you gonnounce what?
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna announce? Um? You you go first,
Speaker 1: and then all announce something else. Well, I guess the
Speaker 1: big announcement and the big thing that's going on in
Speaker 1: our immediate future is we'll be touching down in Orlando
Speaker 1: in only a thirteen days, and we will be beginning
Speaker 1: a journey of a lifetime. And I saw recently a commercial.
Speaker 1: I saw commercial. Was it the one with all the
Speaker 1: kids being like, you taught me how to sore, you
Speaker 1: taught me how to fly? Now it's it's basically like
Speaker 1: all their kids. The idea of the commercials, it's the
Speaker 1: kids talking to their parents saying thank you for like
Speaker 1: putting me on this earth. Now let's have an adventure.
Speaker 1: It was very, very, very kind of strange marketing. But
Speaker 1: that's intense. They but I'm here, we are going for
Speaker 1: an adventure. So um my, my add experience was very
Speaker 1: targeted to me. It was just like a sexy young
Speaker 1: couple just going on rides, and really it was very aspirational.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be them. Yeah, okay, I get that.
Speaker 1: That seems to me more cut and dry when it
Speaker 1: comes to marketing, like you think you're going to get that,
Speaker 1: not like this like mine funk about like growing up,
Speaker 1: about being thankful for your upbringing. It's like, I'm coming,
Speaker 1: I'm coming. Just chill. One quick thing I want to
Speaker 1: announce for the listeners. UM, Matt and I are jointly
Speaker 1: recapping on Vulture, not one, but two reality shows. One
Speaker 1: we're we're three weeks into our America's Next Top Model.
Speaker 1: Recaps are so much fun to write, and those are
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're taking a very didionesque tone to those,
Speaker 1: and it's fun because you know, it's such a frivolous
Speaker 1: show and um, but it actually deserves a didionesque critique.
Speaker 1: But we're also recapping and this will come out the
Speaker 1: Thursday of this week. Um Repasse Drag Race All Stars three,
Speaker 1: and that one we write more like the trash that
Speaker 1: we are. We don't use a voice, so it's not
Speaker 1: our on and that one we write as us well,
Speaker 1: they're both our voices. But but but the drag race voices,
Speaker 1: the recap voice for drag races, Mark, it's more like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like sugar children, honey children. Yeah, that whole kind
Speaker 1: of like language. That whole kind of language. You guys
Speaker 1: know what kind of language we're talking about. So please
Speaker 1: um check those check those recaps out common if you'd like.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, drives engagement, that's absolutely, That's something that
Speaker 1: those New York magazine people love to engage. They love
Speaker 1: to engage, but then they'll see, oh, these recaps have comments.
Speaker 1: That's actually rule number seventeen of culture. People love to engage. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: So let's introduce our guests. Oh, our guests. I'm very excited.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I've loved our guests um for years
Speaker 1: and years and years now, but I'll just loved him.
Speaker 1: I've loved him because he was in love with him.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? It gets better? And I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: this is like really dating everybody. Oh I remember and
Speaker 1: with him when you watch I fell in love with
Speaker 1: everybody in that video and now you're deflecting him. I know.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I fell in love with our guests and
Speaker 1: other people polyamorous it was a polyamory. It gets better.
Speaker 1: Guess it was Chris Kelly. It was you know, keep going, oh,
Speaker 1: keep naming all the impact, Tony, it gets better. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think Michael Martin was in it too. Beautiful, beautiful, Okay.
Speaker 1: So anyway, our guest I've loved since that day and
Speaker 1: then I've seen him on stage, seen him in movie,
Speaker 1: seen him on TV, seen him and I will see
Speaker 1: him on stage very soon. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Why is that? Because he is he is
Speaker 1: the star taking the Soho play by storm, playoffs by storm,
Speaker 1: taking some gay icons by storm. Surely one of the
Speaker 1: biggest gay icons has been taken by storm and swept
Speaker 1: out to see recently. We'll talk about this, we'll discuss it.
Speaker 1: But our guest is the star of the hit show
Speaker 1: Bright Colors and Bold Patterns at the Soho Playhouse, directed
Speaker 1: by Michael Jury. It's such a great show and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see him in the lead role of Gary.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Baby, Here we go, Baby. He's about
Speaker 1: to take Gary by storm and and please help, and
Speaker 1: it's it's a storm of a show. It's a storm
Speaker 1: of a show. Any every emotion. The producers of the
Speaker 1: show would like us to let you, the listener know,
Speaker 1: this is really exciting that they are now accepting Bed
Speaker 1: Bath and Beyond coupons to transmute into a discount for
Speaker 1: the ticket. Knock some dollars off the top. Absolutely with
Speaker 1: your Bed Bath and Beyond coupon. Oh my god, everyone has.
Speaker 1: It's it's like bringing a can of coke to six
Speaker 1: Flags and you know what, You're never sorry, You never sorry,
Speaker 1: never say you did Okay. So our guest is resplendent.
Speaker 1: I love him so much with it. Please welcome Jeff Hiller. Wow,
Speaker 1: how do you feel after all that? That was so exciting?
Speaker 1: I kept wanting to talk and I was like, don't
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. It's like a roller coaster that never ups going.
Speaker 1: I know. I was like, is this going to keep going?
Speaker 1: And now it broke down. It's rolling down the back
Speaker 1: and the whole time I was like, Oh, everyone's going
Speaker 1: to be so disappointed when it's me waiting us. Everyone's
Speaker 1: at home crying and screaming with screaming and Jeff. It
Speaker 1: really as soon because because Drew had announced that he
Speaker 1: was leaving the show for a while, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's too bad. It's sad. I didn't know the show
Speaker 1: was gonna keep running it then, but then as soon
Speaker 1: as you were announced, I was like, this makes one.
Speaker 1: I was like, get Drew out of here. I can't
Speaker 1: leave soon enough. Then said this hack. I've been thinking
Speaker 1: about it. You got to get him out of there.
Speaker 1: Replaced him with Jeff. Oh my god, I and and
Speaker 1: and that's when RuPaul decided to go to I was
Speaker 1: talking to Rue. We were talking to yeah, wait until
Speaker 1: they replaced him. And even Rue. Oh, I wish I
Speaker 1: could pull up the tweet because Rue had nothing but
Speaker 1: amazing superlatives for Jeff, saying he was amazing fantastic. There
Speaker 1: were several different words used that were very um positive. Okay,
Speaker 1: so first tell us about the show, and then tell
Speaker 1: us about this whole Ruin encounter. If the root my
Speaker 1: root counter encounter, as I'm sure she would abbreviate the
Speaker 1: experience an abbreviation, it's simply just herself into it, which
Speaker 1: I am all for. Love it on the show, and
Speaker 1: they're like available and yeah, which is what I'm about
Speaker 1: to do right now? Really, come on, baby, where can
Speaker 1: we spend our money? It's called bright colors and bold patterns.
Speaker 1: It's written by Drew Drow who was the actor in
Speaker 1: it too. But now I'm just rudely writing his coat
Speaker 1: tails and just taking his words and being like, I
Speaker 1: make shausted. I can't write my own show. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start in yours. It's also really really good toolf. We
Speaker 1: saw it Withdrew and it's in all honesty, it's very
Speaker 1: very good, and you guys have to go. It's just
Speaker 1: like it's it's just like an all honesty. Why sometimes
Speaker 1: you have Well, let me tell you something thing. We
Speaker 1: for a long time. I'm going to come out and
Speaker 1: say this. We talked about Warby Parker. I don't need
Speaker 1: glasses at all, but I had to sell that product, Jeff.
Speaker 1: That was up to me. I was on the front line.
Speaker 1: That's capitalist. And you know what, I'm no better than no.
Speaker 1: But what I mean is this show is so so
Speaker 1: so amazing. It's so wary Parkers Warkers. These are retro
Speaker 1: super futures. Yeah, so sorry Warby Parkers. Sorry Warby Um okay,
Speaker 1: so what we're yes, And I was selling praise on
Speaker 1: the show, but also I mean sorry, I didn't need to.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have. I'm sorry. The show is great. It's
Speaker 1: super funny, he wrote, like some hilarious stuff. So it's
Speaker 1: very good. It's also it's a thinker. I love the
Speaker 1: aesthetic of it. It happens by the pool in Palm Springs,
Speaker 1: Palm Springs on the eve of a wedding, on the
Speaker 1: eve of a gay wedding. Gay wedding, Why does it
Speaker 1: have to be a gay wed prinsic claim. I don't
Speaker 1: think it will work without it, or it could, but
Speaker 1: it would be challenged. It could, but it would it
Speaker 1: would be another unusual thing. Yeah, right now, this is
Speaker 1: an acting challenge and it will be another unusual thing.
Speaker 1: Would just be another unusual If there were a straight marriage,
Speaker 1: it would be and it would be another unusual. It
Speaker 1: would be too much. You know, everyone in comedy it's
Speaker 1: better to have just one unusual thing to stick with one.
Speaker 1: It's actually rule number seventy nine of culture in comedy,
Speaker 1: it's just one unusual thing. Now, tell us what's okay. So,
Speaker 1: before we get to the reo counter, the show is great.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows how great the show is. Everyone knows that
Speaker 1: how how's working with Michael Ben Have there been any
Speaker 1: changes to the show. Of course, director of the show,
Speaker 1: there I mean, I wouldn't say there's changes to the show,
Speaker 1: but like, um, you know, I'm a different person absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: get like I don't want to lay down art on you,
Speaker 1: but you know when I do, it's a little different
Speaker 1: than Drew. Also, what's cool about Drew is he's like,
Speaker 1: this part is loose. I can see that happen. It's
Speaker 1: scary if if I were to if I were to
Speaker 1: get get that sort of director from from someone else's work,
Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, I don't know what I
Speaker 1: can't That's why. That's why Jeff is the amazing actor
Speaker 1: in it. And maybe you have some more credits to
Speaker 1: build before you get that opportunity, because if you did,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to make choice. Actually, I just
Speaker 1: didn't realize that and I just got sweaty pot Yeah no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Well guess what the crushing weight of this opportunity is
Speaker 1: now coming down on you. You are the star of
Speaker 1: bright colors and both patterns. Um no, I'm I'm curious
Speaker 1: about this. So this this role is an acting challenge.
Speaker 1: It's just you from there for a long time. You
Speaker 1: know that you go through a lot now, speaking of
Speaker 1: acting challenges, we've seen twenty individuals awarded today by the
Speaker 1: Academy that's interes motion picture artists. Are you just saying
Speaker 1: the actors they're the only ones, well, the twenty individuals
Speaker 1: for acting and we're talking about I'm talking to it.
Speaker 1: That's been I'm not going to ask you about the
Speaker 1: cinematographers and me good point. But the first woman ever,
Speaker 1: absolutely Rachel Rachel Morrison. I learned her name's great and
Speaker 1: guess what none of the other cinematogler's names. Just kidding.
Speaker 1: I know one, Roger Deacon, and he's the one that's
Speaker 1: supposed to win because he's been nominated seventeen times. Is
Speaker 1: he Blade Runner this year? Because Blade Runner got like
Speaker 1: a shocking amount of nominations and I didn't see blade
Speaker 1: I didn't either, But I think it looks like you're,
Speaker 1: you know, watching a I don't know video Miami game
Speaker 1: right right right, which which sounds fun, which sounds fun.
Speaker 1: And you know, I guess an Oscar makes you know,
Speaker 1: Oscar makes well, it sounds fun and an Oscar makes okay,
Speaker 1: So so were you going somewhere with with the best
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, how are you feeling as
Speaker 1: an actor who can look upon the list and really say,
Speaker 1: what's what? Whereas we are just two squawking chickens out
Speaker 1: here who pretend to know that we were any qualification.
Speaker 1: Because I'm in a show, you are a claimed, you are,
Speaker 1: you are acclaimed. Stay stay just great and greater the
Speaker 1: big and small screen. That's true. And so therefore, as
Speaker 1: someone who I feel I can truly respect as an actor,
Speaker 1: let me tell you some some of our guests, some
Speaker 1: real real hacks. I couldn't give you a line reading
Speaker 1: can give you one, No, I wouldn't accept it. Um,
Speaker 1: I'd like get out of here, Rachel Bloom. If this
Speaker 1: were the Jeff Hiller Awards, who would been the acting?
Speaker 1: What's going on like when you look at these categories today?
Speaker 1: Gagged Proctavia Spencer. Oh, you're saying because she didn't see
Speaker 1: I already listened to your episode. But she agreed, and
Speaker 1: I think you said it the most where is that
Speaker 1: most of her lines were just yeah, it was nuts.
Speaker 1: I heard that she plays the game. She plays the game.
Speaker 1: She certainly does, but see we're rewarding her for doing
Speaker 1: the same thing, which is playing You know this caretaking
Speaker 1: person in this in a period piece. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's what she gets. I know, but I just we
Speaker 1: all know she can do more, she can do better.
Speaker 1: But did you like that movie? Because I love them.
Speaker 1: I liked the movie. You know. I heard you guys
Speaker 1: being like, I'm just I'm you were like, I'm about it,
Speaker 1: and I'm about Three Billboards. I can't, I'm less than
Speaker 1: I'm Actually you're bad, just like Boards. That's like the
Speaker 1: last one I have to watch. I still haven't watched it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I will. You should, I know
Speaker 1: I should, but just think we should. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe this is the Awards, and I didn't see Three
Speaker 1: bill Awards, so I'm not like on the Francis McDormand
Speaker 1: train right now. But she's she does a brilliant performance.
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure. And I actually don't even mind
Speaker 1: Martin mcdonnaugh. That's that was some faint praise. I don't
Speaker 1: mind him, but I don't mind him. But I found
Speaker 1: this script in particular to be like, I don't think
Speaker 1: he understands race in America very well. I think he's
Speaker 1: a little not a little. He's way too blunt and
Speaker 1: a lot of these things, and also like there's some
Speaker 1: contrivances contrivances and that I will not spoil, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you serious? Yeah, And look every single movie up
Speaker 1: there has those this year, like even um contrivances. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, contrivance things in a movie where I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's a bad part of the script. Like for example,
Speaker 1: I think that get Out should win Best Screenplay, but
Speaker 1: there's a scene towards the end where he is packing
Speaker 1: up spoiler alert for get Out. He's packing up to
Speaker 1: leave their panicking, and he's like, we gotta go now,
Speaker 1: and he finds the door of the closet open, and
Speaker 1: he somehow walks over there and goes through a box
Speaker 1: and sees all the pictures of her with like her
Speaker 1: black boyfriends and the girlfriend. I was like, what made
Speaker 1: him just walk over there and go see that? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like there's things like little things
Speaker 1: like that in the script where it should have been
Speaker 1: because I also say that that's a poor direction choice.
Speaker 1: But still maybe it's just another eye. Although I do
Speaker 1: believe the first feature for him though first Feature brilliant,
Speaker 1: I do believe that Alison's character does sort of go
Speaker 1: over there and like mets with a couple of things.
Speaker 1: As they're packing. It feels very you know, some movie
Speaker 1: and like you let it, you let it happen. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't think they were writing it like let's write
Speaker 1: it really tight because it's going to be under scrutiny,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be up an exactly what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's not like why I get Out released it a year.
Speaker 1: It was a long time ago January. Also now that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at like January at a time when you're
Speaker 1: exactly which is so odd because it's such a gym
Speaker 1: and you think, but you know what, I bet I
Speaker 1: bet they thought, well, it doesn't matter how good it is.
Speaker 1: People don't see these kinds of movies and mass so
Speaker 1: put it out here where like it's kniche audience, We'll
Speaker 1: say it and get on with it. But they thought
Speaker 1: it was going to be a niece. They thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be you know, not everybody, but it
Speaker 1: was everybody. Was everybody. What were you going to say?
Speaker 1: What was it going to say? Nothing? Well, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the root counter or you were jumping around. I'm
Speaker 1: we were on this peg. We're gonna jump back. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the root Counter and I'm jumping around. It's
Speaker 1: really you have to understand, I had a coffee and
Speaker 1: a half today and so now I'm a killing machine.
Speaker 1: I'll scullet your Hanston and Lucy. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I could take those glasses right off you and switch
Speaker 1: it out, just all hips and she was hips, tits
Speaker 1: and a violent attitude. Yeah for her, um the Rue Counter.
Speaker 1: So for everyone that doesn't and not be up to
Speaker 1: a date about this. On Twitter, RuPaul posted a lovely
Speaker 1: picture of Jeff and Rue and a glowing review. Now
Speaker 1: did you get to talk to RuPaul extended period of time?
Speaker 1: You guys? The Route Counter was everything I wanted it
Speaker 1: to be. And we keep hearing that it is. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, like they say,
Speaker 1: don't meet your heroes and all that business, they do
Speaker 1: say that RuPaul could not have been more wonderful, beautiful, amazing,
Speaker 1: go on, explain, So what what happens they bring? They
Speaker 1: bring rude to you. Yes, so they told me. They
Speaker 1: were like they were like, somebody's going to be in
Speaker 1: the audience and they were like they were like, I
Speaker 1: normally wouldn't tell you this, but he's requested to sit
Speaker 1: in the front room. Oh my god, it's like room. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You had to know you had, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm glad they did tell me because there was I
Speaker 1: actually didn't. I don't look in the front row because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm acting. Yeah, of course you're not focused
Speaker 1: on you're not focused on one on the piece first
Speaker 1: and foremost exactly, I was servicing the word. I want
Speaker 1: to honor the text, and um but I did. I
Speaker 1: said something and I heard that the one that's like
Speaker 1: on the on the bumpers, on the bumper, the world
Speaker 1: famous one. Oh my god, it was I was like, crap,
Speaker 1: I was gonna did it terrify or did it fill
Speaker 1: your spirit or both? It was like, this is so exciting,
Speaker 1: don't miss mean voice inside of it? You know what?
Speaker 1: I bet you could have reacted to that because guess what,
Speaker 1: everyone else in that audience heard that laugh too, And
Speaker 1: then like we all know that Rue Paul is here.
Speaker 1: You could have been like, it's true, I will say,
Speaker 1: once I realized where he was sitting, I did notice
Speaker 1: like a lot of people being like, yeah, watching to
Speaker 1: the right, you know what I mean, not looking up
Speaker 1: at this day? Yeah, looking up so Bruse Ruise in
Speaker 1: the front row. She's in the front row loving it.
Speaker 1: Who's rue with his husband, his ranch, her husband. They
Speaker 1: live in Wyoming. I think Montana Montana sounds better. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's really true. You know why Montana
Speaker 1: sounds right because Montana is right. Yeah, I'm making it
Speaker 1: sound like I'm way closer. Well, I don't know when
Speaker 1: we were, let me text. So he's enjoying it, like
Speaker 1: did he laugh throughout? Yes? But you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it is that one thing that like, okay, so at
Speaker 1: one time, there's no way to tell the story without
Speaker 1: having a little brag in it. Okay, you've learned it.
Speaker 1: You know what. It's actually real number one hundred of culture.
Speaker 1: That's an even hundred. Okay, alright, yeah, that's how special
Speaker 1: was only seventeen. I was like, that's really high on
Speaker 1: the list. I thought that was impressive. You'd be shocked,
Speaker 1: how our cherry y. Anyway, the brag. I one time
Speaker 1: auditioned for Stephen Sondheim. Oh, and he was looking at
Speaker 1: me like with such um like just this really nice
Speaker 1: gaze or whatever. And then like two weeks later that
Speaker 1: Sondheim documentary came out on um HBO. Where somebody asked
Speaker 1: him like, um, you know, when you go to see
Speaker 1: a show, you must know that people are watching you
Speaker 1: watch it, And he's like, I don't think about it
Speaker 1: so much then, but I really think about it. When
Speaker 1: people audition for me, I just make every single one
Speaker 1: of them think that they're the best. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was very good. That doesn't do that
Speaker 1: that that that means anything. That means you were either
Speaker 1: actually great or he just you still got to audition
Speaker 1: for fucking Stephen Sondheim's So what did you perform? What
Speaker 1: did you perform in front of him? One of his tunes? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Which was which one? I'm calm from? A funny thing
Speaker 1: happened on the way to the Forum. Wow, it's a
Speaker 1: deep cut. People don't people don't touch a funnything. People
Speaker 1: don't touch a funny thing. That's real Number four of culture.
Speaker 1: People don't touch a funny thing happened on the way
Speaker 1: to the forum. That's not true. It was just revived
Speaker 1: in the nineties and it ran for like six years.
Speaker 1: I mean, they had what's his face? I think and
Speaker 1: then WHOOPI Goldberger Place. Really didn't they have? Um? She
Speaker 1: played suitalis like the lead like the Nathan Lane role
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't have a George K stance at the
Speaker 1: actor Jason Alexander, and it probably comedy tonight, comedy tonight. Um,
Speaker 1: remember Jason, I know it, I know it. But you
Speaker 1: were gonna say, remember when Jason Alexander was in the
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston and Brandy Cinderella. Yes, that's what I was
Speaker 1: gonna He was the father, sure, and he had a
Speaker 1: to pay, but it was like bad. Yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like it was like still it was like a bald
Speaker 1: ing to pay. Yeah, it's impressive that. Like his hair
Speaker 1: is like did you see that, um that documentary about
Speaker 1: Merrily We Roll Along? No, I didn't see. Well he's
Speaker 1: like in one scene talking to the camera with no
Speaker 1: to pay on and then in the next scene unexplained
Speaker 1: different interviews, straight up full to its like like a wig. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I thought it was kind of great.
Speaker 1: I think it's you know what, Yeah, that's just like
Speaker 1: that's he's he's he's changing his look. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's drag. I just peeked so hard. HPJ threw up.
Speaker 1: Jason Alexander is a drag. Performer. He is drag. He
Speaker 1: has the wigs. He's got plenty of wigs. So Merrily
Speaker 1: Merrily is a sad show. I need to be better.
Speaker 1: I'm like a sound teime, like like I know, like
Speaker 1: into the Woods, Sweetey Todd, you know. But merely we
Speaker 1: should all we should all revisit because it's in it's
Speaker 1: the show within a show and ladybird, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's like it's like kind of deep too,
Speaker 1: because yeah, because it's about it's about friends. Who wait
Speaker 1: am I explained it told backwards, told dockwards so, and
Speaker 1: it was originally told you've got to see this document.
Speaker 1: I love it, You'll fall in love, You'll follow swear,
Speaker 1: I swear everybody goes see this. It's called that. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I'm poting it. So I felt like
Speaker 1: maybe this is a thing where we have to eat,
Speaker 1: t touch in order to really get it. I do
Speaker 1: feel like I really get it now. Fun, that's so
Speaker 1: weird because anyway, why is it weird? Because I just
Speaker 1: watched ET and I had this like flashback, why you
Speaker 1: did it? That's why you did it? Was in your
Speaker 1: heart because you know that you know that the way
Speaker 1: Elliott and eat connector was do their fingers. It's rule
Speaker 1: number rule number sixty eight. Filtre the way Elliott through
Speaker 1: their fingers, and you wanted to well explain it all
Speaker 1: in the in the book, that's definitely coming um the
Speaker 1: best worst thing that ever happened. That's what it's called
Speaker 1: the best best worst thing that ever happened. Merrily because
Speaker 1: people should un merrily. Sometimes I don't know that they do.
Speaker 1: I think they do well. I think it got really
Speaker 1: bad reviews whenever happened, and then now people have like
Speaker 1: a cult um following, you know, which always happens. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like people who are like, I don't even
Speaker 1: like Hamilton's, and then you find out like you don't
Speaker 1: like people like Hamilton's, or like you listen to three
Speaker 1: songs on the soundtrack and like didn't immediately get it right,
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing with Hamilton's now, it's people are
Speaker 1: just like people that are like Hamilton's anti Hamilton's. They're
Speaker 1: like that they listen to one thing and they think, oh,
Speaker 1: this isn't for me, but it would be for you.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful, you see Hamilton's. No, I can't reform to
Speaker 1: see Hamilton's I work off Broadway. I know surely you
Speaker 1: have a connection. That's how, that's how someone can get
Speaker 1: you in there to see Hamilton's I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think that they can. I believe that they can. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what listeners locked to bright colors and bull patterns.
Speaker 1: Use your bad Bath and Beyond coupon so that Jeff
Speaker 1: can buy ten you know, California King Bad that he
Speaker 1: can then sell to buy himself Hamilton's ticket. I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I've heard. There's a role in it for me,
Speaker 1: Like there's a wonderful role in Like we're in the
Speaker 1: in the tour, you know, once they've run out of power,
Speaker 1: gaze King George. Who's doing it now? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but Jeff Wild being an amazing King George, you would
Speaker 1: be so good. Oh my god, what do we think of?
Speaker 1: Did you see it with Graff? I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: I saw it with some some guy who was in
Speaker 1: the Book of Mormon. I do love me some Graff.
Speaker 1: Rory O'Malley. I saw it with Rory as well. Or
Speaker 1: he was wonderful technically. Let okay, um, so let's get
Speaker 1: back to the Roo the rou counter, Rucy's the show,
Speaker 1: and then is he does he announce himself backstage to
Speaker 1: you just give us he enjoys the show, and then
Speaker 1: you're to wait there. No, I mean I just went
Speaker 1: to my dressing room and change and then he came
Speaker 1: to my dressing room. I don't know. This seems to
Speaker 1: this seems too simple. I don't believe he so he
Speaker 1: came and then you guys, you guys are okay, So
Speaker 1: talk about the encounter because because when you say, when
Speaker 1: you say that it lived up to everything that you
Speaker 1: wanted it to be, I find that to be very
Speaker 1: very difficult to um. You know, it's very difficult to
Speaker 1: meet that expectation is so hard to meet, especially with
Speaker 1: someone like Route. Did you guys know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You guys are looking at me like, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's it's you don't want anything to go wrong. So
Speaker 1: and I will say that like my two that I
Speaker 1: want to meet, we're always Route, Paul and and Oprah.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So it's like it's real
Speaker 1: hard to have it happened. Okay, Paul hugged me and
Speaker 1: it was like a dirty second hug. You know it
Speaker 1: wasn't just a quick one. And he said, you need
Speaker 1: to know you made that audience fall in love with
Speaker 1: you and that touched me. That touched me. Need to know.
Speaker 1: And then he told his husband George. He was like,
Speaker 1: you didn't say anything. And I was thinking George was
Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, yeah, it's fine whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm being told I have to see that, and
Speaker 1: he was like, no, it's fine, and he didn't say
Speaker 1: it was fine. He was like he was like it
Speaker 1: was good. And then he was like, actually, what I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed was and he said this like beautiful incisive
Speaker 1: and not incisive insightful and so I always mix those
Speaker 1: two up. Yeah, and I don't know. And then like
Speaker 1: our producer was like, can we please take a picture?
Speaker 1: You know? So we went like yeah, that's you know.
Speaker 1: I would never you couldn't, you know. You don't want
Speaker 1: to be the jerk who's like picture but of course,
Speaker 1: like I still desperately want to pure It depends on
Speaker 1: how it is. He was like, yeah, let me take it.
Speaker 1: And he was like, oh how about this. We do
Speaker 1: it through the and he like art directed it and
Speaker 1: he was like, let's do it through the mirror. So
Speaker 1: get the light, but also like and then he was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you when to look up, and you
Speaker 1: just pretend like you're laughing. Is he taller than you are?
Speaker 1: Shorter than you? I think you're kind of the same.
Speaker 1: Sa beautiful, just very tall, very tall, and this would
Speaker 1: be too tall. All icons meeting face to face and
Speaker 1: expressing expressing to what did you say to Ru? Did
Speaker 1: you express anything to Rue? I said, I saw that
Speaker 1: Opra interview you did, and then I did this with
Speaker 1: my fingers to to, you know, insinuate that you have
Speaker 1: clawed at your face, that you had tried to get
Speaker 1: to your own. And he was like thanks. He goes, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. I don't know even say yeah my conversation
Speaker 1: with Oprah sure, Oh my god, oh my god. And
Speaker 1: then of course you guys parted ways, but not before
Speaker 1: you exchanged numbers and home addresses. Okay, they opened they
Speaker 1: invited you to Montana. Yeah right, somebody did text me
Speaker 1: and they were like, did you go out after? And
Speaker 1: I don't think Rue goes out, and you know, house
Speaker 1: doesn't go out. I'm exhausted after the show. After the show,
Speaker 1: you can time to go home. He came to this
Speaker 1: Saturday night show that starts at night. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: and wanted to go to eleven. Not quite, you have
Speaker 1: a home to go to. How's Neil? Can we talk
Speaker 1: about Neil on this? Of course he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know Neil, though, has is putting
Speaker 1: out this great new art project on Instagram where he's writing,
Speaker 1: He's writing his thoughts on these index Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be so thrilled that you know about I
Speaker 1: love it. Oh, he's like a big fan of your arts.
Speaker 1: I love Neil so much. See the thing about you
Speaker 1: too is um. Now, this is gonna sound like a read,
Speaker 1: but let me finish. Oh my god, I would love
Speaker 1: to be ready. I want to think about something all night. Um.
Speaker 1: I went back and was listening to podcasts from your
Speaker 1: old podcast, and I listened to operas because you know,
Speaker 1: os my new friend and I mean we were we're anyway.
Speaker 1: It's like on Real Housewives when two of them start
Speaker 1: to get real close doing that. We're getting really close.
Speaker 1: You're Erica and Kyle Richard singing. And she was telling
Speaker 1: she asked you too about your origin story? Yes, and
Speaker 1: so I heard it. It was really interesting to me.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing is that you were like talking
Speaker 1: about this time in college when you were auditioning for
Speaker 1: improv and you were like, oh, yeah, you took a
Speaker 1: class and you took it with Ben Rogers. That was
Speaker 1: just a throw away. Yeah, but in my timeline, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, yeah, he was a freshman in college
Speaker 1: and he took an improv one oh one class with
Speaker 1: the person who came up years after me, years you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like like I probably taught Ben Rogers.
Speaker 1: You know what. Oh my god, that's funny. Yeah that
Speaker 1: was two nine. I took it right. So here's this
Speaker 1: is why it's the read. Okay, I moved to l
Speaker 1: a in like the fall of two thousand and eleven,
Speaker 1: which I remember, and this was before I even knew you.
Speaker 1: That was like this mournful thing. It was like Jeff
Speaker 1: Hiller is no longer. So yeah, I remember when that well,
Speaker 1: when I remember that, I hadn't heard of you two
Speaker 1: the read, that's that's the I didn't know you too.
Speaker 1: I didn't know there it is. It's on the table.
Speaker 1: So happy then this queen comes back. You know. Well,
Speaker 1: I was doing long distance, so I came back a lot.
Speaker 1: I came back and I was like, I gotta plug
Speaker 1: into the to the scene. What's happening on the scene exactly,
Speaker 1: And everybody was talking about Matt Rogers and Bow and Yang.
Speaker 1: There were no gays when I was around, Okay, I
Speaker 1: was actually that interesting though, like honestly, like you were
Speaker 1: talking about those It Gets Better videos before. I was like,
Speaker 1: literally they got every gay sort of even sort of
Speaker 1: gay person at the time to get in that remnant
Speaker 1: was like sixteen people tops, And like now there's like
Speaker 1: too many of us. Now we're the man, get at
Speaker 1: it now, just getting pleased. Don't come for us. We're
Speaker 1: institutionalized where you were in the institution. But it isn't
Speaker 1: super hard for me though, because like it is like hard,
Speaker 1: it's not the right word, but it is like it's
Speaker 1: around like mindful. I get it, I get it, I
Speaker 1: get I do get it. Oh, but you are you
Speaker 1: are very comfortably established, I think, is it Well, it's
Speaker 1: not so much like I feel like, oh no, there
Speaker 1: are but I am like, oh wait, I am the
Speaker 1: old person who has to re evaluate what is progressive.
Speaker 1: I used to be the most person in the world
Speaker 1: and you're saying, oh god, I'm you know like that.
Speaker 1: Wait that what I just said is probably ye problematic whatever? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, it's it's part of it. As Oprah
Speaker 1: would say, to quote Pama show drawn, you already have
Speaker 1: what you need. Wait did you just quote yes via Pema,
Speaker 1: you have everything you need. There's there's nothing to you know, fix.
Speaker 1: What he's doing with his hands right now is some
Speaker 1: sort of like like Middle Eastern dance. Okay, see that's problematic,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know what, I don't care. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, Well listen, Jeff, I mean okay, and I
Speaker 1: think I have you listen to you talk on other
Speaker 1: podcasts about this, and there's there's one really funny there's
Speaker 1: one really funny story that you that you tell about UM,
Speaker 1: you know, being like the only gay person in your
Speaker 1: improv groups back uh and and just um having to
Speaker 1: come on having to do a scene with UM where
Speaker 1: you know, it was about a man wearing a scarf
Speaker 1: and then you said, yeah, and I played the scarf.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, you know, like I just feel
Speaker 1: like it's always it's always just a little it's it's
Speaker 1: scary to sort of break that ground, especially in like
Speaker 1: back back in the day was even more homogenized than
Speaker 1: it is now. Like I will say this, I think
Speaker 1: that like for us, because they weren't super a lot
Speaker 1: of gay you know, improvisers and actors like on the
Speaker 1: UCB stage that we saw at all, when like I
Speaker 1: always like imprinted on like you and then like later
Speaker 1: on like Aaron and you know, Mike Hilton and these
Speaker 1: people that kind of just made it look fun. Brandon's
Speaker 1: got Jones, you know what I mean, like those you guys.
Speaker 1: For for us, I think it was the first time
Speaker 1: it was like, oh wow, this can be fun for
Speaker 1: us too, And I think that everybody can feel like
Speaker 1: that when they're not on the inside, which is you know,
Speaker 1: to be white and straight and kind of look the
Speaker 1: same because I even think it's white, straight, brown haired guys,
Speaker 1: not a lot of white, straight blonds, like but just
Speaker 1: a gut that's like aceptible comes up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: When they when they decided to dress up nice for
Speaker 1: Helen that you're like I would, and then later you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe not, I'm gonna go home. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like that, but um, but seeing yeah,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, it's true. But here it is unfair,
Speaker 1: but you know what, it's true. Um, the thing is
Speaker 1: like now that we kind of like are performing right
Speaker 1: really and people can see us, that's nice to think about,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it is kind of
Speaker 1: nice and I like to remind myself of that. And
Speaker 1: you are doing your own thing, you know, like that's
Speaker 1: that's also like I feel like putting the gay thing aside,
Speaker 1: just like people in two thousand three and two thousand four,
Speaker 1: we didn't. We thought we just had to be on
Speaker 1: a herald team. And now people are like, now you
Speaker 1: have that podcast, what is your podcast exactly? You need
Speaker 1: a podcast has to ask you about it exactly and
Speaker 1: it has to be just you acting like yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, it's crazy because so stupid and true,
Speaker 1: Like people think that's what like or they think it's
Speaker 1: that easy, and then some people do tell them that's
Speaker 1: what they need to do and they think it's good.
Speaker 1: But I'm not trying to crap on that because I
Speaker 1: do love that people are creating their and I wish
Speaker 1: I had I wish I had This is so embarrassing,
Speaker 1: but I wish I had thought of that, like known
Speaker 1: to do that. But also like deeply, deeply, Like for us,
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm imagine being talented enough to just something
Speaker 1: and like start to work like you are, legitimately imagine
Speaker 1: imagine actually succeeding in the traditional ways exactly. I saw
Speaker 1: Gravit Water and you were the actor, not the improviser.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's how you know a bit can
Speaker 1: take a script to make a choice. Yes, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I saw you do Gravi and Water with Tammy at
Speaker 1: DUM last year and it was a delighte of course
Speaker 1: it was Gravit Water. For those of you guys out
Speaker 1: there who don't know, is a long running show at
Speaker 1: UCB that you should check out UM where one improviser
Speaker 1: who doesn't know what's about to happen, obviously, is paired
Speaker 1: with an actor who's prepared a scene from the published
Speaker 1: text like a play, and the actor just does the
Speaker 1: scene and the improviser has to just react to it
Speaker 1: and go along. The actor never strays from any dialogue
Speaker 1: in the scene, so it's very fun. It's really funny.
Speaker 1: Jeff regular scripted regular at it, but has transitioned over
Speaker 1: to the scripted side. Oh yes, actually started at the
Speaker 1: scripted side, really, and then I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: remember in those lines anymore? Can you just let me improvise?
Speaker 1: And are you good at I mean, obviously you have
Speaker 1: to be pretty good at it, But it was learning
Speaker 1: lines something that like you have to think about, like
Speaker 1: or there's something something that comes not normally. It's nothing
Speaker 1: I have to think about, like when I even I
Speaker 1: did Shakespeare this past summer and I didn't even have
Speaker 1: to worry, but I just like learned it in the room,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But then you get this
Speaker 1: and it's literally twenty seven pages, you know, like like
Speaker 1: a term paper written. You know, it's not like in
Speaker 1: final draft wins. It's like just like a word document
Speaker 1: twenty seven pages long. Every single space yet every single
Speaker 1: line tiny fun in six aerial funds so small to
Speaker 1: get out of microscope and learn those lines like they
Speaker 1: did in Shakespeare. Wait, we didn't talk about the We
Speaker 1: didn't talk about you experience the park was I just
Speaker 1: I haven't even talked to you off the air about
Speaker 1: this casually? How was that it was great? How was
Speaker 1: the park? The park? The park was streaming for you?
Speaker 1: You know, I can't think of a better place to
Speaker 1: do midsummer than the Park, New York City. The weather
Speaker 1: in New York is bad. That's what I've decided. Like
Speaker 1: there's three months of the year cumulately that it's like
Speaker 1: kind of okay, and the rest of it is bad.
Speaker 1: You're uncomfortable, yeah, I will say. I will say like
Speaker 1: when you're okay. I've done it three times in the park.
Speaker 1: And the first summer I did it, loves Livers Lost
Speaker 1: we it was the hottest week on record, and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is not okay. Yeah, this is unlivable
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know what I mean. But then this
Speaker 1: last year I did it, it it wasn't so bad. And
Speaker 1: when you're in there at night once your past tech
Speaker 1: this like a nice breeze, the beautiful breeze, and if
Speaker 1: you see like somebody's wig blow in it and it
Speaker 1: makes you want to cry. The wig and the winds.
Speaker 1: That's the title of this episode. Felicia had this, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and it would blow and she looked like this earth yes,
Speaker 1: And you know it was nothing to her. No, you
Speaker 1: dropping the bucket and no, I bet she brought her
Speaker 1: own stuffing, my own costumes to this production. That is
Speaker 1: such an ancient Felicia, I shall bring my own yeah,
Speaker 1: to me, she's a thousand years old and always has
Speaker 1: been it always will be. She has the wisdom of
Speaker 1: a of an ancient As I've said many times, the
Speaker 1: greatest of all time. Felicia rashod performance is at the Dinosaur,
Speaker 1: the Dinosaur Attraction and Animal Kingdom at didn't Disney World.
Speaker 1: She portrays the head of the Dino Institute and she's like, welcome, Welcome,
Speaker 1: and there's something she says after that. But that's weird
Speaker 1: because she wasn't even on a Disney property. No. I
Speaker 1: think they just scooped her up. She was she was
Speaker 1: a free agent. Yeah, they saw her and raising in
Speaker 1: the sun and they were like, I wonder if they
Speaker 1: do a lot of research where they're like where they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: she appeals to every children, you know. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: then also she appeals to like, you know, all the
Speaker 1: gays that comes. I mean, I think I literally sneeled
Speaker 1: and I was like a twelve year old kid. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like me. Now, I wasn't like, oh yes, Felicia.
Speaker 1: It was like me as a twelve year old, like,
Speaker 1: oh mom, Felicia. She's like, oh my god, this kid's gay. Cooler,
Speaker 1: shut up, we're in Florida. Train is a big At
Speaker 1: one time, we were at a funeral my mother, um mother,
Speaker 1: and I called her my mother was taken. Has gotten
Speaker 1: the piss taken out of her on this podcast, and
Speaker 1: I don't like it. You have called her a bigot. Henry,
Speaker 1: my my ex boyfriend, came on this podcast and he
Speaker 1: blasted my mother with an I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: for teaching how to recycle. It's just ridiculous. This woman
Speaker 1: is a goddess and so now I'm going to blast
Speaker 1: her on the pod. So we were at a funeral
Speaker 1: one time. It was like, um, her best friend's mother
Speaker 1: had passed a wife. So we were sitting towards the back.
Speaker 1: I'm with her and she goes, they were doing a
Speaker 1: Body of Christ, you know, Thechris. She's like, I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm going to go receive the U Chris because
Speaker 1: I don't go to church regularly. You know. She kind
Speaker 1: of whispers it to me and I was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not going, and she goes, I mean if
Speaker 1: you go up there, this place is going to burn
Speaker 1: to the ground. And then we laughed a lot, and
Speaker 1: somebody turned it around like really crying. I was like like,
Speaker 1: I looked at us like why are you loving? And
Speaker 1: we were just like, sorry, we're joking about honey. Think
Speaker 1: so okay. I don't think so, honey. People crying during
Speaker 1: a funeral shut up. I just think, if you can't
Speaker 1: tolerate a little laughter in the funeral, what is the
Speaker 1: point of living? Honey? Guess what that is? What it's about?
Speaker 1: Everyone ars if you're not laughing. Honey, my my funeral
Speaker 1: better be a HBO comedy special. At Williams, Yes, well
Speaker 1: will outlive you. I want him to say the final words. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's gorgeous. Who would you have performed stand up at
Speaker 1: your funeral? I would say this is real because we
Speaker 1: will hold YouTube. This is binding. Who would perform stand
Speaker 1: up at my funeral? Yeah? I'm blanking. I'm gonna say, um,
Speaker 1: Angela Johnston, the racially problem man TV Cathy and she
Speaker 1: could do her that's good, which is actually she does
Speaker 1: it so well. She certainly does she does it well.
Speaker 1: She does it. Um, what about you? Who would your
Speaker 1: stand up at your funeral? Like Jacqueline Nova beautiful, She's
Speaker 1: kind of like she's she mixes the absolutely I love
Speaker 1: that expository sort of you know, writing aspect of it,
Speaker 1: the humor. Yeah, and she would like notice things that
Speaker 1: were happening within. I was about to say church, but
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be like under a tree or
Speaker 1: right right, right, right right, doing bits about like the
Speaker 1: twigs and stuff. Look at this twig. Yeah exactly. Um
Speaker 1: Mine would be Kathie Griffin. I was gonna say, Kathy,
Speaker 1: Kathy Griffin doing only clay and bits. That's fine, So
Speaker 1: let me tell you about clay. That's that's gorgeous. Does
Speaker 1: feel right for it? Does feel right for both of you?
Speaker 1: Caddy over Caddy for both of us. Yes, yeah, Well
Speaker 1: at our joint funeral, I always say I'll be the
Speaker 1: last thing, but one ever sees. Yes. Okay, now let's
Speaker 1: ask Jeff the question. Yes, this is the question that
Speaker 1: we ask every single guest that quote unquote rolls through.
Speaker 1: Is what the kids say our studio to record the pod. Uh.
Speaker 1: This question is as follows, what was the culture that
Speaker 1: influenced you growing up? This is UH, when did you
Speaker 1: decide culture is for you? This is your moment to
Speaker 1: answer that question. When did you decide? You opened the
Speaker 1: closet door and there it was, hanging perfectly next to
Speaker 1: your favorite scarf was culture, culture, and you took it
Speaker 1: culture and wrapped that around your neck instead of the scarf,
Speaker 1: and you kept it on forever. What was that culture
Speaker 1: for you? First? Shut up? I wrapped it with the
Speaker 1: scarf because I love to accessorize an accessory. Thick um. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: and I know this is going to be hard to believe,
Speaker 1: but I was a bit of a flamboyant child. I am.
Speaker 1: You seem scrappy to me. I guess, like, you know,
Speaker 1: like like you'd be a kid who did play a
Speaker 1: sport and was very good at it to fly under
Speaker 1: the radar, but also gay. No, you're absolutely wrong, like
Speaker 1: so profoundly wrong, like not even like even slightly right.
Speaker 1: Speak on. I was forced to play sports sometimes they
Speaker 1: would say. I remember they were like, we're gonna give
Speaker 1: you cents if you win a game, and then they
Speaker 1: were like we're gonna give you if you make a basket,
Speaker 1: and then they were like we'll give you cents if
Speaker 1: you rebound, and then they were like we'll give you
Speaker 1: five dollars if you go. Oh my god, what was that?
Speaker 1: What do they make you? Basketball? Basketball's physical. It's not
Speaker 1: like you said, I'm tall. I was always tall. I
Speaker 1: bet they really did you to be good. And my dad,
Speaker 1: like is not someone who gets angry at all, but
Speaker 1: he would always be like, just hold your hands up,
Speaker 1: Just hold up your hands and make sure they don't
Speaker 1: throw the basket bold into the basket. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm so tired, but my hands are so gay. That
Speaker 1: was in birth season. His mind's got some gay hands
Speaker 1: or something. It's so gay, except for he doesn't say
Speaker 1: the word game. Um, but what does he say? He's nice,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but he's just he's not one to talk
Speaker 1: really about anything, right, you know, it's not his business
Speaker 1: quote unquote Yeah, I don't even think it's that political.
Speaker 1: I think like he doesn't ask my sister about he
Speaker 1: he doesn't fucking care, which in some ways is some God.
Speaker 1: Y'all came for Katrina and now Ramond. Don't worry. Allen's
Speaker 1: parents will be roasted soon. They won't be They will
Speaker 1: be alright. So, So what I was gonna say is
Speaker 1: so because I was so gay, I didn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of friends. I didn't really have friends. And where
Speaker 1: was this San Antonio, Texas, you know, bastion of liberalism.
Speaker 1: They love all people the Alamo was the site of
Speaker 1: the biggest circuit party the world, orgy in the world. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: it was stupid joke, no no, no, no, but can
Speaker 1: you imagine to be poorly thought? Poorly because it would
Speaker 1: also be a protest by nature, which I love. We
Speaker 1: know there's no basement in the Alamos, so you know
Speaker 1: they couldn't be a sling hanging. It absolutely ground. I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's legal in Texas. It actually
Speaker 1: gets Oh are there many basements where sex parties happen
Speaker 1: or is that just something of myth? I think it's
Speaker 1: just there's no you don't have any windows, you know,
Speaker 1: the plane and black I didn't know about the Aparently
Speaker 1: there's a sex party that happens under in park slow
Speaker 1: under the co op, under the co op. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: crazy huh. Like on the produce on the product right
Speaker 1: there about the produce where I do the orgy, It
Speaker 1: starts about do it right on the back joy. I
Speaker 1: love about Choy orgy as long as it's nut baby
Speaker 1: about choy. Problem. That's sick, that's sick, sick goes so anyway, Sorry.
Speaker 1: So I used to come home and I would watch
Speaker 1: TV from three pm until my bedtime at ten pm.
Speaker 1: Seven hours. Yeah, and my mom would sometimes be like
Speaker 1: only one hour a day. How did you get to seven?
Speaker 1: She wasn't very strict. Well, she was going to college.
Speaker 1: There was a lot happening. She was getting hers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was getting hers. So um. Anyway, I can tell
Speaker 1: you every like I know all sitcoms from like nineteen,
Speaker 1: because you know we did watch it in syndication eight
Speaker 1: to two. I can tell you I'm a encyclopedic knowledge
Speaker 1: of American sitcom. Yeah. Do you want it to be? Well,
Speaker 1: so I guess I guess Cosby was big for you.
Speaker 1: It was. It was changed for me to actually, oh
Speaker 1: my god, there's company. Wow you I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I watched you could quiz me about
Speaker 1: Trivia three company, I'll get it. But you know what,
Speaker 1: and I know this is controversial. Yeah, it wasn't it
Speaker 1: a John Ritter? Okay? You know his son is very cute.
Speaker 1: I know I worked with which one the one who? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I worked with the other side. Oh, I didn't know
Speaker 1: there was like a more handsome Ritter. Besides, we did
Speaker 1: that with the little little lips utter. No, no, we
Speaker 1: did that show where I played Oh my god, wait,
Speaker 1: I don't remember this. That Cold schoola Aaron Jackson show
Speaker 1: you play that was the character was named Thelma. It
Speaker 1: was oh my god, oh my god. Jeff, Jeff was Jeff. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is a show that Cold School and Aaron
Speaker 1: Jackson Roe called Thicker than Water. It was all about
Speaker 1: Eve meets Blackfish. Just incredible and then was so good.
Speaker 1: It was so good, and Aaron Markey was incredible, and
Speaker 1: you were incredible. I mean I was just playing bit
Speaker 1: parts here and there. But Jeff, I got it. Jeff's extremely,
Speaker 1: extremely talented. Actually, you guys have to go see Jeff.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Um, but no, Sieges, we were talking about
Speaker 1: we're talking about Time at three his company. Yeah. Well now,
Speaker 1: and now that I know he's an encyclopedia of sitcoms
Speaker 1: of that era. What was your favorite? Yeah, all time, Pave.
Speaker 1: You have Facts of Life kind of bitch. Well, I
Speaker 1: love Facts of Life, but you know what it's really
Speaker 1: into And it sounds like a cliche, but you're super
Speaker 1: into golden girls, like oh yeah, hardcore and like early adopter.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the lifetime you know. Sure, also
Speaker 1: into the nanny physically female leads it comes to designing women.
Speaker 1: Women is one I don't have because you know why
Speaker 1: it's not in syndication. That's much. Yeah, it didn't plan
Speaker 1: Nickot Knight. That's where I saw everything was Nicko Knights.
Speaker 1: Remember when what's her name Dixie was on Desperate House?
Speaker 1: Dixie Dixie Carter was a guest on Desperate She played
Speaker 1: Kyle McLaughlin's and it was big. My choir teacher was
Speaker 1: freaking out. I was like, this woman is important apparently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of addresses like that, like um,
Speaker 1: Leslie and Warren was Susan's mother. Yeah, yah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. That's like her whole career now is like
Speaker 1: playing mothers on fun moms on TV shows. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: on Will and Grace she was. I think all they
Speaker 1: all had famous mothers come through. They did the House,
Speaker 1: but Leslie and Warren was really robbed of like a
Speaker 1: much fuller, richer career. I think. Do we agree? I
Speaker 1: think probably? Yeah. And you watch Clue and you're like,
Speaker 1: who that person? I know because you think like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's just got this stick, you know, like she doesn't
Speaker 1: pick the Victoria with like you know, but then you
Speaker 1: see her in clue and you're like, oh, you're playing
Speaker 1: this like saucy lady, who's like, I know what it is.
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. I'm owning my sexuality. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I totally forgot about her being a victory Victoria, but
Speaker 1: she was playing this like Maryland type nominated for an
Speaker 1: Oscar she did. She was incredible in that. I said,
Speaker 1: I think I knew, so are you? And Oscar is
Speaker 1: kind of listen to that Little Goldmen podcast. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I'll put that sounds right up a alley. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I'm plugging it. It doesn't need me plugs.
Speaker 1: But wait, no, this is a question because this is
Speaker 1: topical fish. Um do do you like the topical fish?
Speaker 1: Do you like the nominations this year? Well, I was
Speaker 1: really thrilled the Jordan Peele got nominated as director. I
Speaker 1: was super thrilled the Great grew It got nominated. Um,
Speaker 1: I I think it's cool. I think I think what's like.
Speaker 1: The reason I have been like seeking out on like
Speaker 1: reading all this stuff and listening to podcasts about the
Speaker 1: Oscar and stuff is because it is such a weirdoh year,
Speaker 1: It's a weird year, and I like that. I remember
Speaker 1: that year when it was like it was like everybody
Speaker 1: has a lesiavia Candid is gonna win, but they tell
Speaker 1: you exactly who's gonna win, and you're like, well, why
Speaker 1: do I watch right right? And you think they would
Speaker 1: want it to be suspenseful because it has people watching more,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that. I remember that one year,
Speaker 1: the one year I really checked out of it, I
Speaker 1: think was your slum Dog Millionaire one. Everything. I was
Speaker 1: just like, oh and I feel like that happened and happened.
Speaker 1: It happened and happened, and it's just like this year
Speaker 1: is the first year where it's like, oh, okay, well
Speaker 1: these movies have been being talked about for a while
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of them, so I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Are you only um an Oscars
Speaker 1: person or do you like all the one? I like
Speaker 1: them all. Here's the here's my question for you, because
Speaker 1: I think this is interesting. I found that I'm not
Speaker 1: as much into the Emmys anymore because like, I literally
Speaker 1: know half of the nominees. Yeah, it's weird. I have
Speaker 1: to say this, like, and you think it would be thrilling,
Speaker 1: but instead it's just like it's too close. That's that's
Speaker 1: my former student. And I was sitting at popcorn. Who
Speaker 1: was the weirdest one for you to see? You get
Speaker 1: up there? Donald Donald was weird, Rachel Ellie Kemper, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's weird. It's yeah, it's crazy, I will say.
Speaker 1: For me, it's like when it feels like it's not
Speaker 1: too far away, it's harder to engage with it. Like literally,
Speaker 1: like a lot of the writing for Late Night, like
Speaker 1: there's almost whole staffs of that where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's like my peer, you know what I mean That
Speaker 1: that makes it feel kind of like so now it
Speaker 1: feels like the Emmys are something else. Like when I
Speaker 1: was in high school, I used to find out what
Speaker 1: tapes they submitted and I would like watch them all
Speaker 1: and I would like say, well, you know, so Marcia
Speaker 1: Cross submitted this tape and that's more competitive than what
Speaker 1: Felicity Hufman show, because she submitted the pilot of Desperate
Speaker 1: Housewives and she ended up winning. It was just like
Speaker 1: all these things I loved that I loved, like when
Speaker 1: it felt like strategic in a game and not about
Speaker 1: me and about these like iconic women, because that's really
Speaker 1: I only care about the actresses. But now it's funny
Speaker 1: because it's like several of my peers and people that
Speaker 1: I can even call friends have literally won these things
Speaker 1: in the past few years, and it's like, that's weird,
Speaker 1: and it makes it kind of it's kind of a
Speaker 1: mind funk because you're like, this thing that used to
Speaker 1: be something that was aspirational to me is now like
Speaker 1: the ether, you know. But it's still fun still and
Speaker 1: we'll always be and I love the dress, and you know,
Speaker 1: the Emmys are super fun. The Emmys are super fun. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Golden Globes are incredibly frustrating and I don't care.
Speaker 1: But I think the Emmys are great, and I think
Speaker 1: the Oscars are great. The Grammys, I think are a
Speaker 1: little bit stupid because it's not about the awards. It's
Speaker 1: about the performances for the Grammys, I think, and it's
Speaker 1: about just records. And now it's gotten so weird where
Speaker 1: you know that you have to put on some sort
Speaker 1: of iconic performance that people are like doing these weird
Speaker 1: things where it's like what are you doing? Why you
Speaker 1: know why whatever, like writing from a fan or whatever.
Speaker 1: Just I just don't believe that anything in music aside
Speaker 1: from a few things are really worth extraordinary mentioned right now,
Speaker 1: Like I don't like and it's just because it's just
Speaker 1: because everything is so just vast and like democrats. Well
Speaker 1: now music is so specific and so like niche and
Speaker 1: so kids. You can have Spotify where you can listen
Speaker 1: to whatever you want, and so it's like the idea
Speaker 1: that we're all on board for this one album unlikely. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think you're right, it is because there's so
Speaker 1: much music, whereas like on television, it's like you can
Speaker 1: still kind of like play this game because there's only
Speaker 1: so many things on television and that's why the movies
Speaker 1: are even better. But exactly, they really narrow it down
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, yeah, I mean it is so weird,
Speaker 1: like when you find out like where you're like that
Speaker 1: could totally be a year that Ladybird would have just
Speaker 1: been completely unnoticed, but many years yeah and get out.
Speaker 1: But it's such a weirdo year like post Weinstein, Like
Speaker 1: no one really knows what this aftermath is. I woke
Speaker 1: up this morning and actually watched them at eight thirty.
Speaker 1: I just had my alarm. I got rolled over and
Speaker 1: watched them and then went back to bed. I was
Speaker 1: disappointed when they were coming out because I think I'm
Speaker 1: I was. I got used to a world in which
Speaker 1: get Out and Ladybird we're gonna get nominated, and I
Speaker 1: got used to a world where the two of them
Speaker 1: could be directing nominees. And I was a little bored
Speaker 1: with the nominations because there was no big fun shake
Speaker 1: up nominee like Tiffany Hattish or something like. I wanted
Speaker 1: something crazy like that. But then I was thinking about
Speaker 1: it later and I'm like, you know, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not going to be disappointed in an Oscar
Speaker 1: year where movies like get Out and Ladybird are for
Speaker 1: Best Picture, Like that's pretty fucking cool. And I'm the
Speaker 1: n to the point where you were just expecting to
Speaker 1: be mad if they weren't nominally exactly, I was just
Speaker 1: kind of like, I really want, I really want just
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know that it's like you're never
Speaker 1: gonna get what you need. You're even on Oscar and
Speaker 1: Night people are gonna win, and it's gonna be working over,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I think is what
Speaker 1: you're saying that there's such a low threshold for um
Speaker 1: for like a rate or such a high threshold for
Speaker 1: like a great Oscars nominee. Well, yeah, I mean you're like,
Speaker 1: you're're gonna be disappined no matter what. You're going to
Speaker 1: be disappointed because there's literally only so many possibilities and
Speaker 1: you've been told them all and seen every possibility rollout,
Speaker 1: So you're never going to be surprised and blown away
Speaker 1: because that's just not how this works. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think what I'm saying is I'm not able to enjoy
Speaker 1: what a special year it is because I'm so used
Speaker 1: to talking about this and even reading and listening and all.
Speaker 1: Ye like. So the fact that get Out got nominated
Speaker 1: for Best Picture, which literally six months ago would have
Speaker 1: been the gag of the year. We just got used
Speaker 1: to it, and now it's happened and we're like cool,
Speaker 1: But it's it's very cool. It's I mean, Jordan pil
Speaker 1: being nominated, Gretta Grewig being nominated, them both being nominated,
Speaker 1: the fact that they pushed out, you know, two other
Speaker 1: old white dudes, you know what I mean, Like, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Things are changing, it's happening. There is uproar about it,
Speaker 1: is demand for it. I was gonna say I don't
Speaker 1: know if you agree with me. Um. I think that
Speaker 1: year that things like the sea change for me for
Speaker 1: Oscars was when hurt Locker wanted our avatar. That was
Speaker 1: when it was oh now it's like, actually it's exciting again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, people hope for the best thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And like last year with the Moonlight personally, actually this
Speaker 1: is a little controversial, but I did like lao Land
Speaker 1: more than Moonlight. I just liked it more. Um. But
Speaker 1: the fact that so many people were passionate about Moonlight
Speaker 1: and then it won, I was like, there you go.
Speaker 1: That just goes to show this can happen. You don't
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you were more into Lola Land than Moonlight.
Speaker 1: But you don't know a lot about some time. No,
Speaker 1: I do know a lot about some time. I think
Speaker 1: in terms of uh, your average person. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I don't know Merrily, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I know every word to Sweeney Todd and Into the
Speaker 1: Woods and all the bigger ones and like, you know,
Speaker 1: a little Mike music and things like that, but I
Speaker 1: just don't know, like Merrily right right, Yeah, it's good,
Speaker 1: it's a good one. Okay. You don't know, um, anyone
Speaker 1: can whistle. I know that. I saw I saw a
Speaker 1: Sutton one time performed anyone was and she was like
Speaker 1: I didn't think it, what's that? And I was just like,
Speaker 1: this woman is a freak. She's a freak. You've seen
Speaker 1: her perform live. Oh boy, you don't like she's amazing? No,
Speaker 1: I literally I saw her. Do I think? Yeah? Sometimes honestly, like,
Speaker 1: but she's she's really incredible. Um. I will say like
Speaker 1: I think I've said this before in the podcast, Um,
Speaker 1: but I saw The Drowsy Chaperone when it was in previews.
Speaker 1: Like my family went to the city and we were like,
Speaker 1: let's say this. Like my mom was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I heard that Sutton Foster is very good. This is
Speaker 1: like she didn't won a Tony for I think thoroughly model.
Speaker 1: And she was opening this new show and no one
Speaker 1: had talked about it, and it was like the cheap
Speaker 1: one on t KTS. And we went and saw this
Speaker 1: show in perfect seats, like was unbelievable and you would
Speaker 1: have just left that theater thinking, well, that was really good.
Speaker 1: Too bad no one's talking about it. But then it
Speaker 1: was so big at the Tony's. People love it it's
Speaker 1: like this she did that number that was kind of
Speaker 1: star Oh unreal. I mean seeing that live. I think
Speaker 1: I even said at the time, I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: this is the most talented person in the world. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is it was a real performer in
Speaker 1: hell of a costume designer, so I may tell you.
Speaker 1: So she made her own stool, brought her own wig
Speaker 1: and set, and brought her own dresses. She's like, and
Speaker 1: I thought I'd bring my own things. Um. I heard
Speaker 1: that she was a teacher at m y U. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember the people who were in her class, like,
Speaker 1: we're just insufferable time. It's true. Yeah she was, Yeah
Speaker 1: she was. It was right after anything goes and she
Speaker 1: was like established at this point. Yeah, for sure. Like,
Speaker 1: but this is I guess two thousands some of our
Speaker 1: some of our friends were acqua, did you graduate from
Speaker 1: m YU? We get help big, it's been a while,
Speaker 1: so we um we knew some people that audition, well,
Speaker 1: everyone auditioned for her cabaret. She was coming to n
Speaker 1: y U to teach a cabaret and at the end
Speaker 1: of the semester it would be performed at Joe's Pub.
Speaker 1: So it was big. It was a really cool opportunity
Speaker 1: to be directed by Sutton. There was a very cool
Speaker 1: musical director as well. It was it was all to
Speaker 1: Rogers and heart music. She was doing it. I see,
Speaker 1: this is why you go to m I U because yeah,
Speaker 1: when you know, we all get excited abou dumb stuff
Speaker 1: in college, but your's actually the stakes were pretty big. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it was pretty cool. Like ten people got this,
Speaker 1: got this opportunity, and a few of them were are
Speaker 1: good friends and um they said that like she sometimes.
Speaker 1: I think it was like in the beginning and when
Speaker 1: she was directing things, because he'd be frustrating because they'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm really having trouble connecting to this material,
Speaker 1: and she would. Her advice would always just be like
Speaker 1: open your eyes extra big and listen with your heart.
Speaker 1: And it was just like, I'm trying. I don't know
Speaker 1: what this word means, Like it's not about my heart.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's like try it your eyes. That's
Speaker 1: someone who's just a natural talent and who doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to get me. Just do it. You have talent
Speaker 1: and make the talent show. Hold on, let me do
Speaker 1: a backflip. Like the best is when you open your
Speaker 1: eyes and open your eyes into a seven minute tapped.
Speaker 1: I was just insane, Sorry, Joe, um so wait. But
Speaker 1: then the best, though, the best, most revealing Tony Awards.
Speaker 1: But when I've ever seen where I was like that
Speaker 1: bitch was centers Tony's. Of course, there have been so
Speaker 1: many of those moments at the Kennedy Center Honors, but
Speaker 1: specifically this is the Tony Awards. Audrew McDonald was performing
Speaker 1: a number um from One Tent in the Shade and
Speaker 1: she doesn't aerial flip. She does Audre Audre McDonald's who
Speaker 1: you would think just stands and delivers, honey did flip
Speaker 1: on stage. Go look it up on YouTube. That is
Speaker 1: insane and delicious. You think fancy, fancy. She was struggle
Speaker 1: along and she did that tap dance. I was like
Speaker 1: a secret piece. Yeah that's really like it wasn't like
Speaker 1: a you know, like no no shade, but like you
Speaker 1: know David Hypierce dances and you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's moving. He did it. She was like dancing in
Speaker 1: the pocket. Yeah, in the pocket. No. I mean also
Speaker 1: not talking about Jonathan Golf again, but he did like
Speaker 1: a tribute to Sutton and did the whole anything goes
Speaker 1: number and he also could dance the whole thing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how can you be this good at all things? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're probably not good at something. What do you think
Speaker 1: they're not good at? What's the thing you think Audre?
Speaker 1: Is sheety at Algebradra math? Straight tone? I know? I
Speaker 1: think that is the one thing is that? Is that
Speaker 1: like a fair criticism A good level at Audre is
Speaker 1: that like she doesn't straight? Can you just put it
Speaker 1: in the mask, Jack, you just put it in the mass?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Wait, I'll tell you what's a real
Speaker 1: gag to have you heard? On Spotify? They have this
Speaker 1: It's the concert version of dream Girls with Lilia's white.
Speaker 1: That's funny that you're like, it's on Spotify. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had the bootleg baby okay, mama. Heather Headley though Heather
Speaker 1: Headley as Laurel, she's so good, but that wasn't a
Speaker 1: part for I mean, it also wasn't a part for Audre.
Speaker 1: Like she looks sooner. Luck dude on Jude's just like
Speaker 1: this is seen where lilias white as E's like she
Speaker 1: can't sing like I can, and I'll just like, she's right,
Speaker 1: I can't and the audience laughs like that we all go.
Speaker 1: That's why it was well, I meant was a great team.
Speaker 1: Was a great team because in comparison to Jennifer Hudson,
Speaker 1: like just the volume of her voice, it felt smaller.
Speaker 1: I think she made herself smaller. But then it's so
Speaker 1: funny how she couldn't help herself on listen. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she's a lion. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: she probably like rationalized at being like, well, this is
Speaker 1: inside Tina's head feelings that she's actually she's actually amazing now,
Speaker 1: like if you heard it on this record, it would
Speaker 1: not sound as good, but in her heart she could
Speaker 1: sing f sharp. But also, aren't you just like I
Speaker 1: want I want listen? Yeah, I think I should slay
Speaker 1: a full belted sea. Yeah, I mean I think she
Speaker 1: didn't bring out like a really fierce dance. It was
Speaker 1: just like became the club and then Jennifer Hudson comes
Speaker 1: back and you're like, we don't need it. That really
Speaker 1: has always been just notably harsh on Jennifer Hudson. It's
Speaker 1: because I lift her up the highest eyes. She's got
Speaker 1: some serious dead eyes. She's been through a lot. This
Speaker 1: is prior to her having been through a lot. Even
Speaker 1: prior to that, she's been through even before American Idol,
Speaker 1: She's been through a lot. That was her whole, That
Speaker 1: was her little arc. Yeah, I will say that in
Speaker 1: that Sex in the City movie, it's like, put this
Speaker 1: poor woman out of her litera and put it over here.
Speaker 1: It was awful. It was not even passively good. It
Speaker 1: was like they should have just burnt the burnt the
Speaker 1: whole film. Her her arc was, yeah, that she literally
Speaker 1: got a bag Louise from St. Louis. Louise from St. Louis.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, God, but I will give give him this.
Speaker 1: They had Jennifer Slay that number, all dressed up in love,
Speaker 1: dressed up cool in the winter. I remember the trailer
Speaker 1: for that movie was the first time I heard that
Speaker 1: jay Z song, you know, like where Alicia Keys is
Speaker 1: like sex and I was like, where they leave New York.
Speaker 1: I was in l A and I was listening to
Speaker 1: that song, and I was like, beautiful, please, we were
Speaker 1: back there probably like literally fighting a rat in the street.
Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. Now that I'm back, I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's not beautiful at all. No, it's the worst to
Speaker 1: put toner on at night and it comes off like
Speaker 1: just a dark gray cloud. Do you do a face mask? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I have a face mask. I've never done one, but
Speaker 1: last night I put some cream under my eyes. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do after we that's what you did?
Speaker 1: You put some cream? What was it like? Half in hand?
Speaker 1: It was body butter? Am I using it wrong? Did
Speaker 1: you use blue on your face? Yeah? I put some
Speaker 1: k y in my eyes. Body butter on your face.
Speaker 1: It's the perfumet start too much better like on your feet.
Speaker 1: I feel Oh that sounds good too. That sounds really good. No,
Speaker 1: this is what I do. And it's a little like
Speaker 1: maybe like the way I'm going to describe it is
Speaker 1: going to make you feel like just like a little
Speaker 1: bit of a heave and you tell me I love it.
Speaker 1: I like before I put on the sock, especially a
Speaker 1: wool sock, like for the day, I just lather on
Speaker 1: the thickest layer of vassilina on my feet for what purpose?
Speaker 1: Because I like how dowey and and and soft my feet.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, they can't smell good on
Speaker 1: this show. And they said they smell great great in
Speaker 1: the show wearing sandals. Well, no, I I mean in
Speaker 1: barefoot at the very end, and I'm so nervous that
Speaker 1: someone will see a cracked heel. Oh my goodness, Jeff,
Speaker 1: No one's paying attention, but they absolutely are. Are you
Speaker 1: telling me some people look at if somebody was up
Speaker 1: on stage and you saw, like, don't you always pay attention,
Speaker 1: even even like if the show is great? Aren't you like,
Speaker 1: I'm not fixated on aren't you like, oh, when they
Speaker 1: lifted up their shirt you can kind of see their
Speaker 1: belly or whatever. You're always doing that. I will tell
Speaker 1: you this, I never look at feet. I never noticed shoes.
Speaker 1: I I do. I'm guilty of this. When someone's performing
Speaker 1: on stage, I am very conscious of their butt. I'm
Speaker 1: always looking like what they're about doing? What's male? Female?
Speaker 1: I always? I just I mean, you want to see
Speaker 1: if it's rattling anything out. I was like, what's the
Speaker 1: butt situation on this performer? Isn't it just amazed? Anything?
Speaker 1: Like of Audra McDonald farting like mid I literally never
Speaker 1: thought about her farting before in my life, and now
Speaker 1: I just thought of in college, when somebody's like Jesus
Speaker 1: masturbated and You're like, you know, oh my god, imagine
Speaker 1: like having that argument whether Jesus masturbated or not. That's
Speaker 1: like a very Christian camp argument. Oh sorry, I went
Speaker 1: to Christian. Okay, So did you have that argument? And
Speaker 1: what was the who wants? So? What are what are
Speaker 1: the what's the evidence behind this? Well, it's just that
Speaker 1: you know, he is both human and divine, so the
Speaker 1: idea that if you are human you would have sexual
Speaker 1: desires and blah blah blah, and also like is it
Speaker 1: a sin to masturbate? Doesn't it's sacred masturbation? Yeah, she
Speaker 1: said that in her Diane saw Your interview. She was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of sacred. And Diane Sawyer said,
Speaker 1: what was Actually I'm Confusedly, it's actually literally what happened?
Speaker 1: She wait, hold on, I don't think I meant to
Speaker 1: say that was that when she was saying like I'm
Speaker 1: a virgin and stuff. Remember that interview where her eyelash
Speaker 1: fell off? No, no, no, wait it wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was after justin Timberlake had told the world that
Speaker 1: he sucked her And Diane was like, so we heard
Speaker 1: actually maybe not so true. It was like very slight.
Speaker 1: Was this the interview where she like burnt down and cried. No,
Speaker 1: that was with Matt Lauer. Oh, that's where her eyelash
Speaker 1: that she was not in a good place and that baby.
Speaker 1: But I also was like, who put her eyelashes on?
Speaker 1: That they fell off from a blake. I'm Louisiana makeup.
Speaker 1: Are you a Britney fan? Um? Yes, but not like
Speaker 1: um yeah, I'm not a super fan. Right, So do
Speaker 1: you follow? Do you follow on Instagram? No, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's just told me you should follow. Katherine's aid to
Speaker 1: Jones and my friend Jen like she's she'll like post
Speaker 1: a thing where it's like a refrigerator just completely full
Speaker 1: of ice cream, and she'd be like, my friends, bud
Speaker 1: me ice cream. Oh my god, I need to see that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that poor thing? Is she? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So Matt and Matt and mar friend Dave have have
Speaker 1: this joke in one of their shows about how, like,
Speaker 1: you know, to conjure Katherine's Aida Jones essence, you would
Speaker 1: just need clon up in a black cat a courtroom,
Speaker 1: clon up in h and A and a solid dark
Speaker 1: a dark smoky eye. And then if you put that
Speaker 1: in the college. When you get Katherine's don't know what,
Speaker 1: that's someone else who's been through a lot as Katherine's ada.
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, Look, they've all been through a lot,
Speaker 1: I know. And she's not open about how she has
Speaker 1: uh bi polar. She definitely is and proud about I'm proud,
Speaker 1: but she's she's taken away to come forward about being bipolar,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's important. And she was also I think
Speaker 1: she's rather friendly with Michael Douglas because she was on
Speaker 1: stage with Kirk Douglas at the still technically married? Are
Speaker 1: they married? I can't follow that ship. But yeah, apparently
Speaker 1: on interview to get in front of some inappropriate right
Speaker 1: of course, well another one bites the goddamn dust, the
Speaker 1: goddamn test. She looked well at that award, she did.
Speaker 1: She was wearing some nice sea through black, I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you. In Chicago, she said at the best. Yes,
Speaker 1: I watched that movie so many times just for that,
Speaker 1: um but I can't do it. She made it as
Speaker 1: good as it was. I think, just when she just
Speaker 1: walks up that oh my god, my god. And you
Speaker 1: know what I think. I think my first public performance
Speaker 1: of queerness was to other my my eighth grade friends
Speaker 1: in my living room and performed the Hot Honey Rag
Speaker 1: for them as as the movie was playing. The back
Speaker 1: to talk about a deep cut. I love that hot
Speaker 1: Honey rag. That was. That was when I knew my
Speaker 1: dad wouldn't stop talking about John c Riley in that movie.
Speaker 1: After we saw it, he was like he was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, wow, this is what you grabbed
Speaker 1: from this movie. They could have cast a better I know,
Speaker 1: but that's a rising tide lifts a boats situation. I
Speaker 1: think I thought they could off. It was just like fine,
Speaker 1: they could have cast a better MS. I think so
Speaker 1: I was Queen Latifa. It's like, you know she was
Speaker 1: the fourth choice. She was. You think they actually did
Speaker 1: say they would try to get Bett Middler. They would
Speaker 1: have been amazing. They were doing the movie of Chicago.
Speaker 1: They tried to get somebody, big and body. Although you
Speaker 1: got Roxy, you got Velma, you got Billy, those are
Speaker 1: the big three, and then they nailed it for all.
Speaker 1: You know, remember when Renelgo was huge. I loved her
Speaker 1: still do. Look, oh, I made this comment. I loved
Speaker 1: I really appreciated Lucy Lose cameo in Chicago. Because it
Speaker 1: is completely implausible for an Asian woman in the twenties
Speaker 1: to be like that wealthy and assimilated and that speak
Speaker 1: speak And yeah, they also wouldn't have a jail cell
Speaker 1: in the twenties that would be interracially mixed. Either one
Speaker 1: was there too, Yes I do. I'm just saying I
Speaker 1: loved that the touches of I loved witch she was wearing.
Speaker 1: It was like it was so gorgeous, it was all diamonds.
Speaker 1: It was Rob Marshall had his chance to be Ryan Murphy,
Speaker 1: and I don't think, yeah, he really did nail it.
Speaker 1: What was what was his big misstep? After Chicago did
Speaker 1: Memoirs of h But then didn't you direct something nine
Speaker 1: as well? Which I actually enjoy? Yeah, like Penelope CRUs Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know I saw m the Revival on Broadway,
Speaker 1: and um, Jane, miss Jane, she came down. I cry.
Speaker 1: You know what. I cried? When people fly? I cry
Speaker 1: when um, when people fly, I cry. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: the little quote, right when people fly when the Annie
Speaker 1: Potts would be I'm saying any it was Andrew Martin,
Speaker 1: but I didn't see the original cast in Pippen, And
Speaker 1: you know she goes up, which, by the way, I
Speaker 1: hate that Grandma number. I'm always because you know I
Speaker 1: saw it was like Loona exactly, so Phiola is dying
Speaker 1: as she sings it. I'm talking about in Pippen when
Speaker 1: they made Annie Potts fly. Andrew Martin did it first,
Speaker 1: but I started weeping. I could not stop crying. It
Speaker 1: was so gorgeous. It's like when it's like when Beyonce
Speaker 1: grabs the hook and then fly over to the beast. Yes,
Speaker 1: thee Yeah, that's what it's called. The stage, a stage
Speaker 1: and the beast. She's like, hey, look it's it's breathtaking.
Speaker 1: She's a breathtaking performer. I want nothing. And they were like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be We're going to fly you
Speaker 1: in the script is all about flying and stuff. And
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, we'll go to Broadway and
Speaker 1: so it'll be better on Broadway than when we do
Speaker 1: it in the regional thing. And then they were like,
Speaker 1: so okay, actually we're not gonna fly, You're just gonna
Speaker 1: hang you. And then they were like, okay, you just
Speaker 1: need to be rolled on in this cage. It was
Speaker 1: so disappointing how it felt what they thought their budget
Speaker 1: might be compared to the reality of staggering there. You
Speaker 1: don't get theater. I don't. I don't understand the money, Like,
Speaker 1: how does it happen? It's got to be crazy? But
Speaker 1: do you do you want? You never wanted to do theater?
Speaker 1: You were always a TV filming person. No, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we we both kind of like, well, I don't
Speaker 1: know his journeys different them, and I got involved in
Speaker 1: like comedy, they're doing sketch at in college show. It
Speaker 1: was never about like we performed, I performed live in life,
Speaker 1: my life perform, but it was never about theater. For
Speaker 1: me was a comedy. But um, I just think theater
Speaker 1: is the most is the most um risk inviting thing
Speaker 1: of all of of all of the mediums, right. I
Speaker 1: don't know. When Paul came, I realized I had skipped
Speaker 1: an entire like ten minute chunk, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I skipped the whole thing about way,
Speaker 1: what did you do? What did you do? I was like, RuPaul,
Speaker 1: is here you need that? You need that piece of
Speaker 1: information for later, So I just put it in. I
Speaker 1: knew there was a non sequitor moment, and so I
Speaker 1: just put in that and then I went to the
Speaker 1: non sequitor again and I almost shipped my pants. That's
Speaker 1: very frazy. Dang, So is that is that one of
Speaker 1: the like top moments of like line forgetting you can
Speaker 1: you've ever had? Like yeah, because, like I said, every
Speaker 1: other player I've done, I've had like six lines, so
Speaker 1: like if you know this is what this is just you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was really stressed. Although one time I did,
Speaker 1: I was in that same show where I'm supposed to fly. I,
Speaker 1: um my mustache fell off in the middle of my song,
Speaker 1: and um so I made a joke about how my mustache.
Speaker 1: You know, I improvised. It's a gift and the really
Speaker 1: hard to get good at it too, right, thank you
Speaker 1: just have one out there. Yeah, you're just something You're
Speaker 1: not the sudden foster. Know. I listened to that improv
Speaker 1: in my heart and I said a joke about the
Speaker 1: mustache and anyway, because they all laughed and I was
Speaker 1: like writing so high off of my improvisation, I completely
Speaker 1: forgot my lyrics. That was probably worse. Sometimes sometimes you
Speaker 1: serve as a joke over the music over the lyrics.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes each time, each time, Mama, each time, Um okay,
Speaker 1: So I think it might be time to move on
Speaker 1: to I don't think so, honey, So so listen, and
Speaker 1: actually you must do our next live show. You will.
Speaker 1: I want to. We want you to too. So I'm
Speaker 1: happy with that table. Just so everyone knows, we've reached
Speaker 1: out to Jeff multiple times twice times. Couldn't do it
Speaker 1: because he's been doing Shakespeare in the Park and some such.
Speaker 1: You know, I love nonsense they are. He just took
Speaker 1: off the shoe and it smelled reeks of vassiline. Um, well,
Speaker 1: they're very cute, bru Romari. Yeah, you know where I
Speaker 1: got these babies? Um, Nordstrom rap hashtag resist um. So,
Speaker 1: speaking of resisting, this is I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: where we um step forward to resist something in culture,
Speaker 1: if you will, that's bothering us, um entirely. So this
Speaker 1: is where we take one minute to get on the
Speaker 1: clock and just really pick something apart in pop culture. Um,
Speaker 1: would you like to go first? I think could probably
Speaker 1: go first because something has consumed my life and I'll explain.
Speaker 1: I know what this is gonna be. This is Matt
Speaker 1: Rodgers is I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honey, to all my friends who
Speaker 1: watched Real Housewives and didn't tell me how good it was,
Speaker 1: because now I have to look like an idiot getting
Speaker 1: involved in Real Housewives. Literally a decade late. This just
Speaker 1: happening me. With Project Runway. I'm literally ten years late
Speaker 1: on trends, and I don't think so, honey. The fact
Speaker 1: that it's also blending into my clothing. I've just now
Speaker 1: discovered unbutton ng button ing a flannel all the way
Speaker 1: up to the top. Apparently that was a trend like
Speaker 1: a while ago. Listen, all I know is I'm literally
Speaker 1: obsessed with Real Hashwives of Beverly Hills. I'm gonna specifically
Speaker 1: call out Sudie Green, who I always thought the one
Speaker 1: classy thing about me over her was that she likes
Speaker 1: trash reality TV, and meanwhile, here I am, I love
Speaker 1: trash reality TV. Now you people should have just gotten
Speaker 1: me involved in it before. As my friends, you are
Speaker 1: cultural influences to me, and to fail me in this,
Speaker 1: I feel is damn it. It's damning So I think
Speaker 1: that I don't think so, honey, all of you who
Speaker 1: kept me from Erica Jane. I literally can't stop watching
Speaker 1: the expensive music video and that's one minute. Have you
Speaker 1: seen the video expensive by Erica Jane. I can't believe
Speaker 1: how long have you known about it? Years? It came
Speaker 1: out like a year ago. Yeah, it's taken too long.
Speaker 1: She hasn't been on that long, right, and relatively to
Speaker 1: like third season, I think our fourth season, but she popped.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, y love Eric. So I just I
Speaker 1: just recently got into it. I watched like the last
Speaker 1: two seasons of New York and then I wanted to
Speaker 1: watch Beverly Hills because I'm so fascinated with Erica Jane.
Speaker 1: So I started with season six when she started. But
Speaker 1: now there's a lot of flashbacks to this crazy ass
Speaker 1: Brandy Glanville character, who I must know what that's about.
Speaker 1: She was married to somebody, Eddie Brian, and then he
Speaker 1: cheated on her with miss goddamn Leanne Rhymes, which is
Speaker 1: the gag of the year, Leanne that Leanne rhymes because
Speaker 1: they were in movie together. Yes, they were my fell
Speaker 1: in love, not on like Ms brad Pitt and Mr Angelia.
Speaker 1: So I'm starting which I did on accident, but now
Speaker 1: I don't want to change um. At Matt's recommendation, I'm
Speaker 1: starting with season six, I believe of Beverly Hills and
Speaker 1: it's not, it's not hasn't stuck with me? To stee at,
Speaker 1: I'm still in that first episode doesn't stick with you,
Speaker 1: it becomes a part of your life because while it's
Speaker 1: on and you're doing dishes and things around the house,
Speaker 1: like you realize you know these women, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you start, like you know how when you're
Speaker 1: doing things in your life and you picture yourself as
Speaker 1: someone else, like like you know that thing of like
Speaker 1: when you just see a movie or something, and then
Speaker 1: the lead character that movie you like, and so you
Speaker 1: picture yourself as them in your mind's eye. Does that
Speaker 1: ever happen to you? Okay, well, I'm I'm Kyle Richards
Speaker 1: and I've been Kyle Richards for a few days now,
Speaker 1: and I'm also it's so sad, I'm Lisa Anna. I'm
Speaker 1: Lisa Rinna and Lisa all right. I don't like the conflict.
Speaker 1: There's too much conflict for me. I'm a real people pleaser,
Speaker 1: so it's really awkward. So what do you watch? People
Speaker 1: sitting by the beach or something. I know, I don't
Speaker 1: like the conflict because it's it's real, like manufactured, it's
Speaker 1: completely produced, it's completely as. The things about it are
Speaker 1: like so deep. It's like him, I'm so sorry, but
Speaker 1: did you tell everyone in this city that I have
Speaker 1: an eating disorder? It's like never small, it's always like
Speaker 1: you told different one I have a Munchhausen syndrome, a
Speaker 1: disease in which you make up having a disease to
Speaker 1: get attention. I really have lime disease. It's like so
Speaker 1: specific and insane. So apparently what they do is, um,
Speaker 1: they they'll just like have to housewives, like you know,
Speaker 1: catch up over drinks, and they'll have them just sit
Speaker 1: there for hours and talk about everything, every possible topic,
Speaker 1: and then the team of producers will just be watching
Speaker 1: and then they'll write down a little note cards like
Speaker 1: the topics that they'll have talked about, put them on
Speaker 1: a on a corkboard and be like, um, actually, can
Speaker 1: I have that for this episode when they when when
Speaker 1: this happened, so that they connect these are I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like this genius. It's genius. It's so engineered and
Speaker 1: it's it's it's wild, and I just it is just
Speaker 1: sort of architect in this way that just makes me
Speaker 1: feel uneasy. What what bothers me is when like, in
Speaker 1: order to get a plat point starting started, one of
Speaker 1: them will just say I received a text with a
Speaker 1: picture or like someone told me this, and it's like who,
Speaker 1: and then you realize it's absolutely a producer, totally totally.
Speaker 1: They'll just like have like that little part will just
Speaker 1: be in a d R later and you can absolutely
Speaker 1: tell that they were like, oh, we need this to
Speaker 1: edit together, so so, you know, can you say this
Speaker 1: thing exactly? So she's like in a studio being like, hey,
Speaker 1: can I talk to you about you know? In reality
Speaker 1: shows is the most ironic anyway. I really enjoying it.
Speaker 1: I think I have one. Here we go. This is
Speaker 1: Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey, his time will
Speaker 1: begin now. I don't think so many magicians who reveal
Speaker 1: their secrets. I was working with the magician today on
Speaker 1: set and he just spilled all the beans, and honestly,
Speaker 1: it felt like the last nail and the coffin of
Speaker 1: my innocence. I it really broke the illusion completely, and
Speaker 1: I had no respect for this man. He was wonderful,
Speaker 1: he's a very talented magician, but he just had no
Speaker 1: hesitation about telling telling me all about the card tricks,
Speaker 1: all about the coin stuff, all about this one trick
Speaker 1: where he turns a bubble into a glass or but
Speaker 1: it was he's an incredibly talented magician. Um. I won't
Speaker 1: say his name, but he just I think he just
Speaker 1: felt like there was, you know, a rapport connection, and
Speaker 1: so he just let me know. And you what, you
Speaker 1: have killed the child inside of me, and I just
Speaker 1: had I'm I'm a new uncle and just to just
Speaker 1: to have to have that inner child murdered just as
Speaker 1: my niece is born is factually tragic, and I don't
Speaker 1: think so, Honey, Magic the Magician, that's his name. Magic
Speaker 1: is very talented. His name is Magic the Magician. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's an alias, of course. And he murdered
Speaker 1: your inner child just as your niece is born, just
Speaker 1: as my niece. That's the beginning of the movie about this.
Speaker 1: He's born today. My niece was born today. I know
Speaker 1: she was born on Thursday's Beautiful young girl, Elie Wiss,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get her a onesie that says, miss Weiss,
Speaker 1: excuse me, miss Weiss. I love, I love referring to
Speaker 1: the basics, Miss Weiss, Like when she starts crawling. Just
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, miss Weisse, crawl, you better crawl, miss Wise,
Speaker 1: you better learn to chew. I see him as Weiss.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm one of those people that who posts
Speaker 1: baby pictures and it's my baby. It's it's wild. I
Speaker 1: hope I don't fully slip into that. My two best
Speaker 1: friends now have nieces and I feel that I must
Speaker 1: care about children now and it's exhausting. It's a lot. Okay, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you don't what what were you going to say? Well?
Speaker 1: Then I was like, well, should I make that my
Speaker 1: think because whatever you'd like? Okay, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm I feel like I should try and
Speaker 1: make my something about like promoting the show. But okay, okay, okay, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: let the show drop away, just forget okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, you know what I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 1: Then this is gonna be mine. Alright, alright, this is it.
Speaker 1: This is Jeff Hillers. I don't think so, honey, a
Speaker 1: time starts. I'm so excited his time starts now. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, Because like, if you see
Speaker 1: a baby in your Instagram feed. All you have to
Speaker 1: do is move your finger like this up. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal. If you see a
Speaker 1: freaking baby or a freaking dog or a freaking chaot,
Speaker 1: they're adorable and they're lovely, and I choose to follow
Speaker 1: all of them because there's something that's inside of me
Speaker 1: that's a little bit dead, and that warp warms it up. Okay.
Speaker 1: I happen to have a cat on Instagram daily Underscore
Speaker 1: Beverly follower for a really cute cat picks okay, and
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, bright colors and bold patterns
Speaker 1: at the Soho Playhouses, playing four times a week, starring
Speaker 1: me Jeff Hiller replacing Drew Drow. And also, you know what,
Speaker 1: if the people like to show pictures of their animals
Speaker 1: or their babies, it's because that is the external portion
Speaker 1: of their love of their body, and so they have
Speaker 1: to bring it up to everyone else. And for God's sake,
Speaker 1: come see the show. It's not only serious, it's also hilarious.
Speaker 1: A second, Oh you know what else? I think just
Speaker 1: double tap things. It's not hard, you move your fingers.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that people should just like people
Speaker 1: should just like worswipe. What's it? What's your problem? You
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about it? Oh well, I have
Speaker 1: to say I manufactured a little bit of my anger,
Speaker 1: But I do I do think what's the problem? Scrolling
Speaker 1: a little fast? Or just honey? Exactly exactly? Like I
Speaker 1: love hearing that you love your niece, Like that's so nice.
Speaker 1: I think that that teaches me so much more about
Speaker 1: you than some sort of like framed um you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, like deciding like this is how I'm
Speaker 1: going to project my life. It's like, you know, Paul
Speaker 1: came to see me. You know, that's beautiful. But op
Speaker 1: posting your baby pick is the most earnest thing you
Speaker 1: can do on social media, just short of posting, you know,
Speaker 1: a meal culture number number. The most earnest thing you
Speaker 1: can do on social media is supposed to picture. Come on.
Speaker 1: The most earnest you can do social media is supposed
Speaker 1: to I really love that I shoehorned you into having
Speaker 1: to say, you know, here's the thing. It's it's not
Speaker 1: that I don't like the babies. I'm sure if I
Speaker 1: saw them they'd be wonderful. But the other day someone
Speaker 1: handed me a photo of their baby, and the baby
Speaker 1: was in different costumes and I was like, I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, it's the same baby. I just on the
Speaker 1: other cross them. That's so funny because I love a
Speaker 1: good and I especially love a baby in a wig.
Speaker 1: I love a good I love it. I love a
Speaker 1: baby in a costume in person, yes, all right, But
Speaker 1: I love a three dimensional baby. Three D baby that is.
Speaker 1: That's so weird because I went to a birthday party
Speaker 1: last night and we put the birthday board in a
Speaker 1: lift and he was he was like, something's under my
Speaker 1: seat and just this humongous cardboard got out of a
Speaker 1: baby face and he just put it on the window
Speaker 1: and drop away with this huge cardboard baby. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They're they're horrifying one pictured. Yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: I guess you what. It was a little time, right.
Speaker 1: It was disturbing. I saw someone that I only knew
Speaker 1: on social media exclusively the other day and they described
Speaker 1: me as so much more three dimensional. I was like, honey,
Speaker 1: you have no idea. I didn't say I r L Yeah,
Speaker 1: ironically say I r L l L. I do say
Speaker 1: bt w um, that's very sorry. I say, wait, you
Speaker 1: say bt w like by the way, Yeah, yeah, what's
Speaker 1: the one I say recently that I was like ll
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll say L O L, but I think it's
Speaker 1: a joke. Yeah, yeah, I think I say BT dubs dubs.
Speaker 1: It's one. Bus is fun. Everyone will know what you mean.
Speaker 1: It's not G two G. That's horrible. Can I say
Speaker 1: b r B br B? I say br B tow
Speaker 1: rb b r B. I'm gonna go pee. Oh that's good.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, because you know it's horrible to have
Speaker 1: to share that you're shipping. You know what, Jeff, Jeff
Speaker 1: did something historic and as I don't think Sony, I
Speaker 1: just want to point out he really just if if
Speaker 1: anyone shorned anything, it was Jeff. Oh you know what,
Speaker 1: I really respect that. I respects too as two people
Speaker 1: who are coming up and trying to find new and
Speaker 1: and and in innovative ways to self promote, to self promote.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Yeah. That was for Mama Rue.
Speaker 1: That was for Mama Rue because from Mama to Guru. Wow,
Speaker 1: that is beautiful. Well, this has been a fantastic episode.
Speaker 1: It's been a fantastic episode. And I have to say, Jeff,
Speaker 1: when you fly, we cry. I think that inspires a song. Um, first,
Speaker 1: I want to say bright colors and bold patterns, four
Speaker 1: nights a week at the SOHO Playoffs Playoffs, bring your bed,
Speaker 1: Bath and beyond tickets or I'm sorry, bed bath and
Speaker 1: beyond coupons. Any last words for the people listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast, because you've given a lot of knowledge, So
Speaker 1: just leave us with something beautiful and then we'll sing
Speaker 1: us out. Okay, Um, if you uh, you should get
Speaker 1: this little tool and if you ever get a white hind,
Speaker 1: you can scrape it off and it won't get infected.
Speaker 1: And I didn't do that this week. You got a
Speaker 1: scrape that ship off your face, Scrape that ship of
Speaker 1: off your face, scrape that ship right off your face.
Speaker 1: Today Today, Today, you're supposed to join me on a harmony.
Speaker 1: I was I was looking at the peaks. Why are
Speaker 1: you looking at the peak because that's for HPJ to
Speaker 1: deal with. Well, all right, you know what, this has
Speaker 1: been a fucking disaster When people fly right, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: Oh we sounded like a um what's a three person trio?
Speaker 1: What's it a quartet? That's because we put it in
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