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Speaker 1: Like that's the thing with Hamilton's now, it's people are

421
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: just like people that are like Hamilton's anti Hamilton's. They're

422
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: like that they listen to one thing and they think, oh,

423
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: this isn't for me, but it would be for you.

424
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: It's wonderful, you see Hamilton's. No, I can't reform to

425
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: see Hamilton's I work off Broadway. I know surely you

426
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: have a connection. That's how, that's how someone can get

427
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: you in there to see Hamilton's I don't think so.

428
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: I think that they can. I believe that they can. Okay,

429
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: you know what listeners locked to bright colors and bull patterns.

430
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: Use your bad Bath and Beyond coupon so that Jeff

431
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: can buy ten you know, California King Bad that he

432
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: can then sell to buy himself Hamilton's ticket. I mean, yeah, yeah,

433
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: that's I've heard. There's a role in it for me,

434
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: Like there's a wonderful role in Like we're in the

435
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: in the tour, you know, once they've run out of power,

436
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: gaze King George. Who's doing it now? I don't know,

437
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: but Jeff Wild being an amazing King George, you would

438
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: be so good. Oh my god, what do we think of?

439
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: Did you see it with Graff? I didn't see it.

440
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: I saw it with some some guy who was in

441
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: the Book of Mormon. I do love me some Graff.

442
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: Rory O'Malley. I saw it with Rory as well. Or

443
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: he was wonderful technically. Let okay, um, so let's get

444
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: back to the Roo the rou counter, Rucy's the show,

445
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: and then is he does he announce himself backstage to

446
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: you just give us he enjoys the show, and then

447
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: you're to wait there. No, I mean I just went

448
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: to my dressing room and change and then he came

449
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: to my dressing room. I don't know. This seems to

450
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: this seems too simple. I don't believe he so he

451
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: came and then you guys, you guys are okay, So

452
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: talk about the encounter because because when you say, when

453
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: you say that it lived up to everything that you

454
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: wanted it to be, I find that to be very

455
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: very difficult to um. You know, it's very difficult to

456
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: meet that expectation is so hard to meet, especially with

457
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: someone like Route. Did you guys know what I'm saying.

458
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: You guys are looking at me like, I mean, look,

459
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: it's it's you don't want anything to go wrong. So

460
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: and I will say that like my two that I

461
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: want to meet, we're always Route, Paul and and Oprah.

462
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So it's like it's real

463
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: hard to have it happened. Okay, Paul hugged me and

464
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: it was like a dirty second hug. You know it

465
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: wasn't just a quick one. And he said, you need

466
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: to know you made that audience fall in love with

467
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 1: you and that touched me. That touched me. Need to know.

468
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: And then he told his husband George. He was like,

469
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: you didn't say anything. And I was thinking George was

470
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, yeah, it's fine whatever, you know,

471
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: like I'm being told I have to see that, and

472
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: he was like, no, it's fine, and he didn't say

473
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: it was fine. He was like he was like it

474
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: was good. And then he was like, actually, what I

475
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: really enjoyed was and he said this like beautiful incisive

476
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: and not incisive insightful and so I always mix those

477
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: two up. Yeah, and I don't know. And then like

478
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: our producer was like, can we please take a picture?

479
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: You know? So we went like yeah, that's you know.

480
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: I would never you couldn't, you know. You don't want

481
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: to be the jerk who's like picture but of course,

482
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: like I still desperately want to pure It depends on

483
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: how it is. He was like, yeah, let me take it.

484
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: And he was like, oh how about this. We do

485
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: it through the and he like art directed it and

486
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: he was like, let's do it through the mirror. So

487
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: get the light, but also like and then he was like, okay,

488
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you when to look up, and you

489
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: just pretend like you're laughing. Is he taller than you are?

490
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: Shorter than you? I think you're kind of the same.

491
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: Sa beautiful, just very tall, very tall, and this would

492
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Speaker 1: be too tall. All icons meeting face to face and

493
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: expressing expressing to what did you say to Ru? Did

494
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: you express anything to Rue? I said, I saw that

495
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: Opra interview you did, and then I did this with

496
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: my fingers to to, you know, insinuate that you have

497
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: clawed at your face, that you had tried to get

498
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: to your own. And he was like thanks. He goes, oh, yeah,

499
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: that's great. I don't know even say yeah my conversation

500
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: with Oprah sure, Oh my god, oh my god. And

501
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: then of course you guys parted ways, but not before

502
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: you exchanged numbers and home addresses. Okay, they opened they

503
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: invited you to Montana. Yeah right, somebody did text me

504
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: and they were like, did you go out after? And

505
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Rue goes out, and you know, house

506
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: doesn't go out. I'm exhausted after the show. After the show,

507
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: you can time to go home. He came to this

508
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: Saturday night show that starts at night. Oh my god,

509
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: and wanted to go to eleven. Not quite, you have

510
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: a home to go to. How's Neil? Can we talk

511
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: about Neil on this? Of course he was like, no,

512
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know Neil, though, has is putting

513
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: out this great new art project on Instagram where he's writing,

514
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: He's writing his thoughts on these index Oh my god,

515
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna be so thrilled that you know about I

516
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: love it. Oh, he's like a big fan of your arts.

517
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: I love Neil so much. See the thing about you

518
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: too is um. Now, this is gonna sound like a read,

519
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: but let me finish. Oh my god, I would love

520
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: to be ready. I want to think about something all night. Um.

521
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: I went back and was listening to podcasts from your

522
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: old podcast, and I listened to operas because you know,

523
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: os my new friend and I mean we were we're anyway.

524
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: It's like on Real Housewives when two of them start

525
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: to get real close doing that. We're getting really close.

526
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: You're Erica and Kyle Richard singing. And she was telling

527
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: she asked you too about your origin story? Yes, and

528
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: so I heard it. It was really interesting to me.

529
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: And here's the thing is that you were like talking

530
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: about this time in college when you were auditioning for

531
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: improv and you were like, oh, yeah, you took a

532
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: class and you took it with Ben Rogers. That was

533
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: just a throw away. Yeah, but in my timeline, and

534
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, yeah, he was a freshman in college

535
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: and he took an improv one oh one class with

536
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: the person who came up years after me, years you

537
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like like I probably taught Ben Rogers.

538
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: You know what. Oh my god, that's funny. Yeah that

539
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: was two nine. I took it right. So here's this

540
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: is why it's the read. Okay, I moved to l

541
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: a in like the fall of two thousand and eleven,

542
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: which I remember, and this was before I even knew you.

543
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: That was like this mournful thing. It was like Jeff

544
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Hiller is no longer. So yeah, I remember when that well,

545
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: when I remember that, I hadn't heard of you two

546
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: the read, that's that's the I didn't know you too.

547
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know there it is. It's on the table.

548
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: So happy then this queen comes back. You know. Well,

549
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: I was doing long distance, so I came back a lot.

550
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: I came back and I was like, I gotta plug

551
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: into the to the scene. What's happening on the scene exactly,

552
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: And everybody was talking about Matt Rogers and Bow and Yang.

553
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: There were no gays when I was around, Okay, I

554
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: was actually that interesting though, like honestly, like you were

555
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: talking about those It Gets Better videos before. I was like,

556
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: literally they got every gay sort of even sort of

557
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: gay person at the time to get in that remnant

558
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: was like sixteen people tops, And like now there's like

559
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: too many of us. Now we're the man, get at

560
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: it now, just getting pleased. Don't come for us. We're

561
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: institutionalized where you were in the institution. But it isn't

562
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: super hard for me though, because like it is like hard,

563
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: it's not the right word, but it is like it's

564
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: around like mindful. I get it, I get it, I

565
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: get I do get it. Oh, but you are you

566
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: are very comfortably established, I think, is it Well, it's

567
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: not so much like I feel like, oh no, there

568
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: are but I am like, oh wait, I am the

569
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: old person who has to re evaluate what is progressive.

570
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: I used to be the most person in the world

571
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: and you're saying, oh god, I'm you know like that.

572
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: Wait that what I just said is probably ye problematic whatever? Yeah,

573
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, it's it's part of it. As Oprah

574
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: would say, to quote Pama show drawn, you already have

575
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: what you need. Wait did you just quote yes via Pema,

576
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: you have everything you need. There's there's nothing to you know, fix.

577
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: What he's doing with his hands right now is some

578
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: sort of like like Middle Eastern dance. Okay, see that's problematic,

579
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, but you know what, I don't care. Oh

580
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: my goodness, Well listen, Jeff, I mean okay, and I

581
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: think I have you listen to you talk on other

582
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: podcasts about this, and there's there's one really funny there's

583
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: one really funny story that you that you tell about UM,

584
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, being like the only gay person in your

585
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: improv groups back uh and and just um having to

586
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: come on having to do a scene with UM where

587
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, it was about a man wearing a scarf

588
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: and then you said, yeah, and I played the scarf.

589
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: But I feel like, you know, like I just feel

590
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: like it's always it's always just a little it's it's

591
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: scary to sort of break that ground, especially in like

592
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: back back in the day was even more homogenized than

593
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: it is now. Like I will say this, I think

594
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: that like for us, because they weren't super a lot

595
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: of gay you know, improvisers and actors like on the

596
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: UCB stage that we saw at all, when like I

597
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: always like imprinted on like you and then like later

598
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: on like Aaron and you know, Mike Hilton and these

599
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: people that kind of just made it look fun. Brandon's

600
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: got Jones, you know what I mean, like those you guys.

601
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: For for us, I think it was the first time

602
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: it was like, oh wow, this can be fun for

603
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: us too, And I think that everybody can feel like

604
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: that when they're not on the inside, which is you know,

605
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: to be white and straight and kind of look the

606
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: same because I even think it's white, straight, brown haired guys,

607
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: not a lot of white, straight blonds, like but just

608
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: a gut that's like aceptible comes up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

609
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: When they when they decided to dress up nice for

610
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: Helen that you're like I would, and then later you're like, oh,

611
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: maybe not, I'm gonna go home. I think, you know,

612
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of like that, but um, but seeing yeah,

613
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: you know whatever, it's true. But here it is unfair,

614
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: but you know what, it's true. Um, the thing is

615
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: like now that we kind of like are performing right

616
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: really and people can see us, that's nice to think about,

617
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it is kind of

618
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: nice and I like to remind myself of that. And

619
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: you are doing your own thing, you know, like that's

620
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: that's also like I feel like putting the gay thing aside,

621
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: just like people in two thousand three and two thousand four,

622
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: we didn't. We thought we just had to be on

623
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: a herald team. And now people are like, now you

624
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: have that podcast, what is your podcast exactly? You need

625
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: a podcast has to ask you about it exactly and

626
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: it has to be just you acting like yourself. Yeah.

627
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: But the thing is, it's crazy because so stupid and true,

628
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: Like people think that's what like or they think it's

629
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: that easy, and then some people do tell them that's

630
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Speaker 1: what they need to do and they think it's good.

631
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Speaker 1: But I'm not trying to crap on that because I

632
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: do love that people are creating their and I wish

633
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: I had I wish I had This is so embarrassing,

634
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: but I wish I had thought of that, like known

635
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: to do that. But also like deeply, deeply, Like for us,

636
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm imagine being talented enough to just something

637
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: and like start to work like you are, legitimately imagine

638
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: imagine actually succeeding in the traditional ways exactly. I saw

639
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: Gravit Water and you were the actor, not the improviser.

640
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: I was like, that's how you know a bit can

641
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: take a script to make a choice. Yes, Oh my god,

642
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: I saw you do Gravi and Water with Tammy at

643
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: DUM last year and it was a delighte of course

644
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: it was Gravit Water. For those of you guys out

645
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: there who don't know, is a long running show at

646
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: UCB that you should check out UM where one improviser

647
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: who doesn't know what's about to happen, obviously, is paired

648
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: with an actor who's prepared a scene from the published

649
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: text like a play, and the actor just does the

650
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: scene and the improviser has to just react to it

651
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: and go along. The actor never strays from any dialogue

652
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: in the scene, so it's very fun. It's really funny.

653
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: Jeff regular scripted regular at it, but has transitioned over

654
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: to the scripted side. Oh yes, actually started at the

655
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: scripted side, really, and then I was like, I can't

656
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: remember in those lines anymore? Can you just let me improvise?

657
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: And are you good at I mean, obviously you have

658
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: to be pretty good at it, But it was learning

659
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: lines something that like you have to think about, like

660
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: or there's something something that comes not normally. It's nothing

661
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: I have to think about, like when I even I

662
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: did Shakespeare this past summer and I didn't even have

663
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: to worry, but I just like learned it in the room,

664
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But then you get this

665
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: and it's literally twenty seven pages, you know, like like

666
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: a term paper written. You know, it's not like in

667
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: final draft wins. It's like just like a word document

668
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven pages long. Every single space yet every single

669
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: line tiny fun in six aerial funds so small to

670
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: get out of microscope and learn those lines like they

671
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: did in Shakespeare. Wait, we didn't talk about the We

672
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: didn't talk about you experience the park was I just

673
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: I haven't even talked to you off the air about

674
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: this casually? How was that it was great? How was

675
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: the park? The park? The park was streaming for you?

676
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: You know, I can't think of a better place to

677
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: do midsummer than the Park, New York City. The weather

678
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: in New York is bad. That's what I've decided. Like

679
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: there's three months of the year cumulately that it's like

680
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: kind of okay, and the rest of it is bad.

681
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: You're uncomfortable, yeah, I will say. I will say like

682
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 1: when you're okay. I've done it three times in the park.

683
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: And the first summer I did it, loves Livers Lost

684
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: we it was the hottest week on record, and I

685
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: was like, this is not okay. Yeah, this is unlivable

686
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know what I mean. But then this

687
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: last year I did it, it it wasn't so bad. And

688
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: when you're in there at night once your past tech

689
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: this like a nice breeze, the beautiful breeze, and if

690
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: you see like somebody's wig blow in it and it

691
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: makes you want to cry. The wig and the winds.

692
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: That's the title of this episode. Felicia had this, oh yeah,

693
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: and it would blow and she looked like this earth yes,

694
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: And you know it was nothing to her. No, you

695
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: dropping the bucket and no, I bet she brought her

696
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: own stuffing, my own costumes to this production. That is

697
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: such an ancient Felicia, I shall bring my own yeah,

698
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: to me, she's a thousand years old and always has

699
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: been it always will be. She has the wisdom of

700
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: a of an ancient As I've said many times, the

701
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: greatest of all time. Felicia rashod performance is at the Dinosaur,

702
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 1: the Dinosaur Attraction and Animal Kingdom at didn't Disney World.

703
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: She portrays the head of the Dino Institute and she's like, welcome, Welcome,

704
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: and there's something she says after that. But that's weird

705
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: because she wasn't even on a Disney property. No. I

706
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: think they just scooped her up. She was she was

707
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: a free agent. Yeah, they saw her and raising in

708
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: the sun and they were like, I wonder if they

709
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: do a lot of research where they're like where they're like, oh,

710
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: she appeals to every children, you know. But yeah, but

711
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: then also she appeals to like, you know, all the

712
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: gays that comes. I mean, I think I literally sneeled

713
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: and I was like a twelve year old kid. It

714
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: wasn't like me. Now, I wasn't like, oh yes, Felicia.

715
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: It was like me as a twelve year old, like,

716
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: oh mom, Felicia. She's like, oh my god, this kid's gay. Cooler,

717
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: shut up, we're in Florida. Train is a big At

718
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: one time, we were at a funeral my mother, um mother,

719
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: and I called her my mother was taken. Has gotten

720
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: the piss taken out of her on this podcast, and

721
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't like it. You have called her a bigot. Henry,

722
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: my my ex boyfriend, came on this podcast and he

723
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: blasted my mother with an I don't think so, honey,

724
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: for teaching how to recycle. It's just ridiculous. This woman

725
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: is a goddess and so now I'm going to blast

726
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: her on the pod. So we were at a funeral

727
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: one time. It was like, um, her best friend's mother

728
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: had passed a wife. So we were sitting towards the back.

729
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm with her and she goes, they were doing a

730
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: Body of Christ, you know, Thechris. She's like, I don't

731
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: think I'm going to go receive the U Chris because

732
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: I don't go to church regularly. You know. She kind

733
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: of whispers it to me and I was like, I mean,

734
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not going, and she goes, I mean if

735
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: you go up there, this place is going to burn

736
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: to the ground. And then we laughed a lot, and

737
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: somebody turned it around like really crying. I was like like,

738
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: I looked at us like why are you loving? And

739
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: we were just like, sorry, we're joking about honey. Think

740
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: so okay. I don't think so, honey. People crying during

741
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: a funeral shut up. I just think, if you can't

742
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: tolerate a little laughter in the funeral, what is the

743
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: point of living? Honey? Guess what that is? What it's about?

744
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: Everyone ars if you're not laughing. Honey, my my funeral

745
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: better be a HBO comedy special. At Williams, Yes, well

746
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: will outlive you. I want him to say the final words. Wow,

747
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: that's gorgeous. Who would you have performed stand up at

748
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: your funeral? I would say this is real because we

749
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: will hold YouTube. This is binding. Who would perform stand

750
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: up at my funeral? Yeah? I'm blanking. I'm gonna say, um,

751
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: Angela Johnston, the racially problem man TV Cathy and she

752
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: could do her that's good, which is actually she does

753
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: it so well. She certainly does she does it well.

754
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: She does it. Um, what about you? Who would your

755
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: stand up at your funeral? Like Jacqueline Nova beautiful, She's

756
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: kind of like she's she mixes the absolutely I love

757
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: that expository sort of you know, writing aspect of it,

758
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: the humor. Yeah, and she would like notice things that

759
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: were happening within. I was about to say church, but

760
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be like under a tree or

761
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: right right, right, right right, doing bits about like the

762
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: twigs and stuff. Look at this twig. Yeah exactly. Um

763
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: Mine would be Kathie Griffin. I was gonna say, Kathy,

764
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: Kathy Griffin doing only clay and bits. That's fine, So

765
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: let me tell you about clay. That's that's gorgeous. Does

766
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: feel right for it? Does feel right for both of you?

767
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Caddy over Caddy for both of us. Yes, yeah, Well

768
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: at our joint funeral, I always say I'll be the

769
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 1: last thing, but one ever sees. Yes. Okay, now let's

770
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: ask Jeff the question. Yes, this is the question that

771
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: we ask every single guest that quote unquote rolls through.

772
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: Is what the kids say our studio to record the pod. Uh.

773
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: This question is as follows, what was the culture that

774
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: influenced you growing up? This is UH, when did you

775
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: decide culture is for you? This is your moment to

776
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: answer that question. When did you decide? You opened the

777
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: closet door and there it was, hanging perfectly next to

778
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: your favorite scarf was culture, culture, and you took it

779
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: culture and wrapped that around your neck instead of the scarf,

780
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: and you kept it on forever. What was that culture

781
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: for you? First? Shut up? I wrapped it with the

782
00:43:52,200 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: scarf because I love to accessorize an accessory. Thick um. Okay. So,

783
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: and I know this is going to be hard to believe,

784
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: but I was a bit of a flamboyant child. I am.

785
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: You seem scrappy to me. I guess, like, you know,

786
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: like like you'd be a kid who did play a

787
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 1: sport and was very good at it to fly under

788
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: the radar, but also gay. No, you're absolutely wrong, like

789
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: so profoundly wrong, like not even like even slightly right.

790
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: Speak on. I was forced to play sports sometimes they

791
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: would say. I remember they were like, we're gonna give

792
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: you cents if you win a game, and then they

793
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: were like we're gonna give you if you make a basket,

794
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: and then they were like we'll give you cents if

795
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: you rebound, and then they were like we'll give you

796
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: five dollars if you go. Oh my god, what was that?

797
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: What do they make you? Basketball? Basketball's physical. It's not

798
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: like you said, I'm tall. I was always tall. I

799
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: bet they really did you to be good. And my dad,

800
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: like is not someone who gets angry at all, but

801
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: he would always be like, just hold your hands up,

802
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: Just hold up your hands and make sure they don't

803
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: throw the basket bold into the basket. And I was like,

804
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm so tired, but my hands are so gay. That

805
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: was in birth season. His mind's got some gay hands

806
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: or something. It's so gay, except for he doesn't say

807
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: the word game. Um, but what does he say? He's nice,

808
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, but he's just he's not one to talk

809
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: really about anything, right, you know, it's not his business

810
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: quote unquote Yeah, I don't even think it's that political.

811
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: I think like he doesn't ask my sister about he

812
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't fucking care, which in some ways is some God.

813
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: Y'all came for Katrina and now Ramond. Don't worry. Allen's

814
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: parents will be roasted soon. They won't be They will

815
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: be alright. So, So what I was gonna say is

816
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: so because I was so gay, I didn't have a

817
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 1: lot of friends. I didn't really have friends. And where

818
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: was this San Antonio, Texas, you know, bastion of liberalism.

819
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: They love all people the Alamo was the site of

820
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: the biggest circuit party the world, orgy in the world. Okay, um,

821
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: it was stupid joke, no no, no, no, but can

822
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: you imagine to be poorly thought? Poorly because it would

823
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: also be a protest by nature, which I love. We

824
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: know there's no basement in the Alamos, so you know

825
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: they couldn't be a sling hanging. It absolutely ground. I

826
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's legal in Texas. It actually

827
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: gets Oh are there many basements where sex parties happen

828
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: or is that just something of myth? I think it's

829
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: just there's no you don't have any windows, you know,

830
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 1: the plane and black I didn't know about the Aparently

831
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: there's a sex party that happens under in park slow

832
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: under the co op, under the co op. Yeah yeah, yeah,

833
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: crazy huh. Like on the produce on the product right

834
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: there about the produce where I do the orgy, It

835
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: starts about do it right on the back joy. I

836
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: love about Choy orgy as long as it's nut baby

837
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: about choy. Problem. That's sick, that's sick, sick goes so anyway, Sorry.

838
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: So I used to come home and I would watch

839
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: TV from three pm until my bedtime at ten pm.

840
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: Seven hours. Yeah, and my mom would sometimes be like

841
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: only one hour a day. How did you get to seven?

842
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: She wasn't very strict. Well, she was going to college.

843
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: There was a lot happening. She was getting hers. Yeah,

844
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: she was getting hers. So um. Anyway, I can tell

845
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: you every like I know all sitcoms from like nineteen,

846
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: because you know we did watch it in syndication eight

847
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: to two. I can tell you I'm a encyclopedic knowledge

848
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: of American sitcom. Yeah. Do you want it to be? Well,

849
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: so I guess I guess Cosby was big for you.

850
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: It was. It was changed for me to actually, oh

851
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: my god, there's company. Wow you I mean, I don't

852
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I watched you could quiz me about

853
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: Trivia three company, I'll get it. But you know what,

854
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: and I know this is controversial. Yeah, it wasn't it

855
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: a John Ritter? Okay? You know his son is very cute.

856
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: I know I worked with which one the one who? Oh? Yeah,

857
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: I worked with the other side. Oh, I didn't know

858
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: there was like a more handsome Ritter. Besides, we did

859
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: that with the little little lips utter. No, no, we

860
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: did that show where I played Oh my god, wait,

861
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: I don't remember this. That Cold schoola Aaron Jackson show

862
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: you play that was the character was named Thelma. It

863
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: was oh my god, oh my god. Jeff, Jeff was Jeff. Okay,

864
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: so this is a show that Cold School and Aaron

865
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: Jackson Roe called Thicker than Water. It was all about

866
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: Eve meets Blackfish. Just incredible and then was so good.

867
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: It was so good, and Aaron Markey was incredible, and

868
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: you were incredible. I mean I was just playing bit

869
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: parts here and there. But Jeff, I got it. Jeff's extremely,

870
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: extremely talented. Actually, you guys have to go see Jeff.

871
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: So anyway, Um, but no, Sieges, we were talking about

872
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about Time at three his company. Yeah. Well now,

873
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: and now that I know he's an encyclopedia of sitcoms

874
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: of that era. What was your favorite? Yeah, all time, Pave.

875
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: You have Facts of Life kind of bitch. Well, I

876
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: love Facts of Life, but you know what it's really

877
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 1: into And it sounds like a cliche, but you're super

878
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: into golden girls, like oh yeah, hardcore and like early adopter.

879
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the lifetime you know. Sure, also

880
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: into the nanny physically female leads it comes to designing women.

881
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: Women is one I don't have because you know why

882
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: it's not in syndication. That's much. Yeah, it didn't plan

883
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: Nickot Knight. That's where I saw everything was Nicko Knights.

884
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: Remember when what's her name Dixie was on Desperate House?

885
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: Dixie Dixie Carter was a guest on Desperate She played

886
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Kyle McLaughlin's and it was big. My choir teacher was

887
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: freaking out. I was like, this woman is important apparently. Yeah,

888
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: there was a lot of addresses like that, like um,

889
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: Leslie and Warren was Susan's mother. Yeah, yah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

890
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. That's like her whole career now is like

891
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: playing mothers on fun moms on TV shows. Yeah, she's

892
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: on Will and Grace she was. I think all they

893
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: all had famous mothers come through. They did the House,

894
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: but Leslie and Warren was really robbed of like a

895
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: much fuller, richer career. I think. Do we agree? I

896
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: think probably? Yeah. And you watch Clue and you're like,

897
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: who that person? I know because you think like, oh,

898
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: she's just got this stick, you know, like she doesn't

899
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: pick the Victoria with like you know, but then you

900
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: see her in clue and you're like, oh, you're playing

901
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: this like saucy lady, who's like, I know what it is.

902
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. I'm owning my sexuality. Yeah.

903
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: I totally forgot about her being a victory Victoria, but

904
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: she was playing this like Maryland type nominated for an

905
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: Oscar she did. She was incredible in that. I said,

906
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: I think I knew, so are you? And Oscar is

907
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: kind of listen to that Little Goldmen podcast. Oh no,

908
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: I'll put that sounds right up a alley. I don't

909
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: know why I'm plugging it. It doesn't need me plugs.

910
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: But wait, no, this is a question because this is

911
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: topical fish. Um do do you like the topical fish?

912
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Do you like the nominations this year? Well, I was

913
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: really thrilled the Jordan Peele got nominated as director. I

914
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: was super thrilled the Great grew It got nominated. Um,

915
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: I I think it's cool. I think I think what's like.

916
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: The reason I have been like seeking out on like

917
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: reading all this stuff and listening to podcasts about the

918
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: Oscar and stuff is because it is such a weirdoh year,

919
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: It's a weird year, and I like that. I remember

920
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: that year when it was like it was like everybody

921
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: has a lesiavia Candid is gonna win, but they tell

922
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: you exactly who's gonna win, and you're like, well, why

923
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: do I watch right right? And you think they would

924
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: want it to be suspenseful because it has people watching more,

925
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that. I remember that one year,

926
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: the one year I really checked out of it, I

927
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: think was your slum Dog Millionaire one. Everything. I was

928
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: just like, oh and I feel like that happened and happened.

929
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: It happened and happened, and it's just like this year

930
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: is the first year where it's like, oh, okay, well

931
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: these movies have been being talked about for a while

932
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of them, so I'm gonna see

933
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Are you only um an Oscars

934
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: person or do you like all the one? I like

935
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: them all. Here's the here's my question for you, because

936
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: I think this is interesting. I found that I'm not

937
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: as much into the Emmys anymore because like, I literally

938
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: know half of the nominees. Yeah, it's weird. I have

939
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: to say this, like, and you think it would be thrilling,

940
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: but instead it's just like it's too close. That's that's

941
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: my former student. And I was sitting at popcorn. Who

942
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: was the weirdest one for you to see? You get

943
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: up there? Donald Donald was weird, Rachel Ellie Kemper, and

944
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's weird. It's yeah, it's crazy, I will say.

945
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: For me, it's like when it feels like it's not

946
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: too far away, it's harder to engage with it. Like literally,

947
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: like a lot of the writing for Late Night, like

948
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: there's almost whole staffs of that where I'm like, oh,

949
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: that's like my peer, you know what I mean That

950
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: that makes it feel kind of like so now it

951
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: feels like the Emmys are something else. Like when I

952
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: was in high school, I used to find out what

953
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: tapes they submitted and I would like watch them all

954
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: and I would like say, well, you know, so Marcia

955
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: Cross submitted this tape and that's more competitive than what

956
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: Felicity Hufman show, because she submitted the pilot of Desperate

957
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: Housewives and she ended up winning. It was just like

958
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: all these things I loved that I loved, like when

959
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: it felt like strategic in a game and not about

960
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: me and about these like iconic women, because that's really

961
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: I only care about the actresses. But now it's funny

962
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: because it's like several of my peers and people that

963
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: I can even call friends have literally won these things

964
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: in the past few years, and it's like, that's weird,

965
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: and it makes it kind of it's kind of a

966
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: mind funk because you're like, this thing that used to

967
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: be something that was aspirational to me is now like

968
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: the ether, you know. But it's still fun still and

969
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: we'll always be and I love the dress, and you know,

970
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: the Emmys are super fun. The Emmys are super fun. Obviously,

971
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: the Golden Globes are incredibly frustrating and I don't care.

972
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: But I think the Emmys are great, and I think

973
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: the Oscars are great. The Grammys, I think are a

974
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: little bit stupid because it's not about the awards. It's

975
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: about the performances for the Grammys, I think, and it's

976
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: about just records. And now it's gotten so weird where

977
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: you know that you have to put on some sort

978
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: of iconic performance that people are like doing these weird

979
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: things where it's like what are you doing? Why you

980
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: know why whatever, like writing from a fan or whatever.

981
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: Just I just don't believe that anything in music aside

982
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: from a few things are really worth extraordinary mentioned right now,

983
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: Like I don't like and it's just because it's just

984
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: because everything is so just vast and like democrats. Well

985
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: now music is so specific and so like niche and

986
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: so kids. You can have Spotify where you can listen

987
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: to whatever you want, and so it's like the idea

988
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: that we're all on board for this one album unlikely. Yeah, yeah,

989
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: And I think you're right, it is because there's so

990
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: much music, whereas like on television, it's like you can

991
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: still kind of like play this game because there's only

992
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: so many things on television and that's why the movies

993
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: are even better. But exactly, they really narrow it down

994
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, yeah, I mean it is so weird,

995
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: like when you find out like where you're like that

996
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: could totally be a year that Ladybird would have just

997
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: been completely unnoticed, but many years yeah and get out.

998
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: But it's such a weirdo year like post Weinstein, Like

999
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: no one really knows what this aftermath is. I woke

1000
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: up this morning and actually watched them at eight thirty.

1001
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: I just had my alarm. I got rolled over and

1002
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: watched them and then went back to bed. I was

1003
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: disappointed when they were coming out because I think I'm

1004
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: I was. I got used to a world in which

1005
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: get Out and Ladybird we're gonna get nominated, and I

1006
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: got used to a world where the two of them

1007
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: could be directing nominees. And I was a little bored

1008
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: with the nominations because there was no big fun shake

1009
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: up nominee like Tiffany Hattish or something like. I wanted

1010
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: something crazy like that. But then I was thinking about

1011
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: it later and I'm like, you know, I was like,

1012
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not going to be disappointed in an Oscar

1013
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: year where movies like get Out and Ladybird are for

1014
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: Best Picture, Like that's pretty fucking cool. And I'm the

1015
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: n to the point where you were just expecting to

1016
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: be mad if they weren't nominally exactly, I was just

1017
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: kind of like, I really want, I really want just

1018
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know that it's like you're never

1019
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: gonna get what you need. You're even on Oscar and

1020
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: Night people are gonna win, and it's gonna be working over,

1021
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I think is what

1022
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: you're saying that there's such a low threshold for um

1023
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: for like a rate or such a high threshold for

1024
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: like a great Oscars nominee. Well, yeah, I mean you're like,

1025
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: you're're gonna be disappined no matter what. You're going to

1026
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: be disappointed because there's literally only so many possibilities and

1027
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: you've been told them all and seen every possibility rollout,

1028
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: So you're never going to be surprised and blown away

1029
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: because that's just not how this works. Yeah, And I

1030
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: think what I'm saying is I'm not able to enjoy

1031
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: what a special year it is because I'm so used

1032
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: to talking about this and even reading and listening and all.

1033
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: Ye like. So the fact that get Out got nominated

1034
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: for Best Picture, which literally six months ago would have

1035
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: been the gag of the year. We just got used

1036
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: to it, and now it's happened and we're like cool,

1037
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: But it's it's very cool. It's I mean, Jordan pil

1038
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: being nominated, Gretta Grewig being nominated, them both being nominated,

1039
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: the fact that they pushed out, you know, two other

1040
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: old white dudes, you know what I mean, Like, that's cool.

1041
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: Things are changing, it's happening. There is uproar about it,

1042
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: is demand for it. I was gonna say I don't

1043
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: know if you agree with me. Um. I think that

1044
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: year that things like the sea change for me for

1045
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Oscars was when hurt Locker wanted our avatar. That was

1046
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: when it was oh now it's like, actually it's exciting again. Yeah.

1047
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, people hope for the best thing. Yeah. Yeah.

1048
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: And like last year with the Moonlight personally, actually this

1049
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: is a little controversial, but I did like lao Land

1050
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: more than Moonlight. I just liked it more. Um. But

1051
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: the fact that so many people were passionate about Moonlight

1052
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: and then it won, I was like, there you go.

1053
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: That just goes to show this can happen. You don't

1054
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you were more into Lola Land than Moonlight.

1055
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: But you don't know a lot about some time. No,

1056
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: I do know a lot about some time. I think

1057
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: in terms of uh, your average person. But I'm just

1058
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: saying I don't know Merrily, you know what I mean?

1059
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: I know every word to Sweeney Todd and Into the

1060
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: Woods and all the bigger ones and like, you know,

1061
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: a little Mike music and things like that, but I

1062
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: just don't know, like Merrily right right, Yeah, it's good,

1063
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: it's a good one. Okay. You don't know, um, anyone

1064
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: can whistle. I know that. I saw I saw a

1065
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: Sutton one time performed anyone was and she was like

1066
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: I didn't think it, what's that? And I was just like,

1067
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: this woman is a freak. She's a freak. You've seen

1068
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: her perform live. Oh boy, you don't like she's amazing? No,

1069
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: I literally I saw her. Do I think? Yeah? Sometimes honestly, like,

1070
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: but she's she's really incredible. Um. I will say like

1071
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: I think I've said this before in the podcast, Um,

1072
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: but I saw The Drowsy Chaperone when it was in previews.

1073
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: Like my family went to the city and we were like,

1074
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: let's say this. Like my mom was like, you know,

1075
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: I heard that Sutton Foster is very good. This is

1076
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: like she didn't won a Tony for I think thoroughly model.

1077
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: And she was opening this new show and no one

1078
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: had talked about it, and it was like the cheap

1079
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: one on t KTS. And we went and saw this

1080
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: show in perfect seats, like was unbelievable and you would

1081
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: have just left that theater thinking, well, that was really good.

1082
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: Too bad no one's talking about it. But then it

1083
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: was so big at the Tony's. People love it it's

1084
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: like this she did that number that was kind of

1085
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: star Oh unreal. I mean seeing that live. I think

1086
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: I even said at the time, I'm like, I think

1087
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: this is the most talented person in the world. I

1088
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: was like, this is it was a real performer in

1089
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: hell of a costume designer, so I may tell you.

1090
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: So she made her own stool, brought her own wig

1091
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: and set, and brought her own dresses. She's like, and

1092
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 1: I thought I'd bring my own things. Um. I heard

1093
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: that she was a teacher at m y U. Yeah.

1094
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: I remember the people who were in her class, like,

1095
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: we're just insufferable time. It's true. Yeah she was, Yeah

1096
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: she was. It was right after anything goes and she

1097
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: was like established at this point. Yeah, for sure. Like,

1098
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: but this is I guess two thousands some of our

1099
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: some of our friends were acqua, did you graduate from

1100
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,959
Speaker 1: m YU? We get help big, it's been a while,

1101
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: so we um we knew some people that audition, well,

1102
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: everyone auditioned for her cabaret. She was coming to n

1103
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: y U to teach a cabaret and at the end

1104
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: of the semester it would be performed at Joe's Pub.

1105
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: So it was big. It was a really cool opportunity

1106
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: to be directed by Sutton. There was a very cool

1107
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: musical director as well. It was it was all to

1108
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: Rogers and heart music. She was doing it. I see,

1109
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: this is why you go to m I U because yeah,

1110
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: when you know, we all get excited abou dumb stuff

1111
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: in college, but your's actually the stakes were pretty big. Well,

1112
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was pretty cool. Like ten people got this,

1113
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: got this opportunity, and a few of them were are

1114
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: good friends and um they said that like she sometimes.

1115
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: I think it was like in the beginning and when

1116
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: she was directing things, because he'd be frustrating because they'd

1117
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm really having trouble connecting to this material,

1118
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: and she would. Her advice would always just be like

1119
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: open your eyes extra big and listen with your heart.

1120
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: And it was just like, I'm trying. I don't know

1121
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: what this word means, Like it's not about my heart.

1122
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't think she's like try it your eyes. That's

1123
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: someone who's just a natural talent and who doesn't know

1124
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: how to get me. Just do it. You have talent

1125
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: and make the talent show. Hold on, let me do

1126
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: a backflip. Like the best is when you open your

1127
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: eyes and open your eyes into a seven minute tapped.

1128
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: I was just insane, Sorry, Joe, um so wait. But

1129
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: then the best, though, the best, most revealing Tony Awards.

1130
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,479
Speaker 1: But when I've ever seen where I was like that

1131
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: bitch was centers Tony's. Of course, there have been so

1132
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: many of those moments at the Kennedy Center Honors, but

1133
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: specifically this is the Tony Awards. Audrew McDonald was performing

1134
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: a number um from One Tent in the Shade and

1135
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: she doesn't aerial flip. She does Audre Audre McDonald's who

1136
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: you would think just stands and delivers, honey did flip

1137
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: on stage. Go look it up on YouTube. That is

1138
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: insane and delicious. You think fancy, fancy. She was struggle

1139
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: along and she did that tap dance. I was like

1140
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: a secret piece. Yeah that's really like it wasn't like

1141
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: a you know, like no no shade, but like you

1142
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: know David Hypierce dances and you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1143
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: he's moving. He did it. She was like dancing in

1144
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: the pocket. Yeah, in the pocket. No. I mean also

1145
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: not talking about Jonathan Golf again, but he did like

1146
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 1: a tribute to Sutton and did the whole anything goes

1147
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: number and he also could dance the whole thing. I'm like,

1148
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: how can you be this good at all things? Yeah,

1149
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: they're probably not good at something. What do you think

1150
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: they're not good at? What's the thing you think Audre?

1151
01:03:54,360 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: Is sheety at Algebradra math? Straight tone? I know? I

1152
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: think that is the one thing is that? Is that

1153
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: like a fair criticism A good level at Audre is

1154
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: that like she doesn't straight? Can you just put it

1155
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: in the mask, Jack, you just put it in the mass?

1156
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Wait, I'll tell you what's a real

1157
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: gag to have you heard? On Spotify? They have this

1158
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: It's the concert version of dream Girls with Lilia's white.

1159
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: That's funny that you're like, it's on Spotify. Yeah, I

1160
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: had the bootleg baby okay, mama. Heather Headley though Heather

1161
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: Headley as Laurel, she's so good, but that wasn't a

1162
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: part for I mean, it also wasn't a part for Audre.

1163
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: Like she looks sooner. Luck dude on Jude's just like

1164
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: this is seen where lilias white as E's like she

1165
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: can't sing like I can, and I'll just like, she's right,

1166
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: I can't and the audience laughs like that we all go.

1167
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 1: That's why it was well, I meant was a great team.

1168
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: Was a great team because in comparison to Jennifer Hudson,

1169
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: like just the volume of her voice, it felt smaller.

1170
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: I think she made herself smaller. But then it's so

1171
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: funny how she couldn't help herself on listen. It was like, oh,

1172
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she's a lion. Yeah. I think

1173
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: she probably like rationalized at being like, well, this is

1174
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: inside Tina's head feelings that she's actually she's actually amazing now,

1175
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: like if you heard it on this record, it would

1176
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: not sound as good, but in her heart she could

1177
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: sing f sharp. But also, aren't you just like I

1178
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: want I want listen? Yeah, I think I should slay

1179
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: a full belted sea. Yeah, I mean I think she

1180
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: didn't bring out like a really fierce dance. It was

1181
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: just like became the club and then Jennifer Hudson comes

1182
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: back and you're like, we don't need it. That really

1183
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: has always been just notably harsh on Jennifer Hudson. It's

1184
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: because I lift her up the highest eyes. She's got

1185
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: some serious dead eyes. She's been through a lot. This

1186
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: is prior to her having been through a lot. Even

1187
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: prior to that, she's been through even before American Idol,

1188
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: She's been through a lot. That was her whole, That

1189
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: was her little arc. Yeah, I will say that in

1190
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: that Sex in the City movie, it's like, put this

1191
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: poor woman out of her litera and put it over here.

1192
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: It was awful. It was not even passively good. It

1193
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: was like they should have just burnt the burnt the

1194
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: whole film. Her her arc was, yeah, that she literally

1195
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: got a bag Louise from St. Louis. Louise from St. Louis.

1196
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, God, but I will give give him this.

1197
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: They had Jennifer Slay that number, all dressed up in love,

1198
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: dressed up cool in the winter. I remember the trailer

1199
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: for that movie was the first time I heard that

1200
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: jay Z song, you know, like where Alicia Keys is

1201
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: like sex and I was like, where they leave New York.

1202
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: I was in l A and I was listening to

1203
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: that song, and I was like, beautiful, please, we were

1204
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: back there probably like literally fighting a rat in the street.

1205
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. Now that I'm back, I'm like,

1206
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: it's not beautiful at all. No, it's the worst to

1207
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: put toner on at night and it comes off like

1208
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: just a dark gray cloud. Do you do a face mask? Yeah?

1209
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: I have a face mask. I've never done one, but

1210
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: last night I put some cream under my eyes. You

1211
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do after we that's what you did?

1212
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: You put some cream? What was it like? Half in hand?

1213
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: It was body butter? Am I using it wrong? Did

1214
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: you use blue on your face? Yeah? I put some

1215
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: k y in my eyes. Body butter on your face.

1216
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: It's the perfumet start too much better like on your feet.

1217
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: I feel Oh that sounds good too. That sounds really good. No,

1218
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: this is what I do. And it's a little like

1219
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: maybe like the way I'm going to describe it is

1220
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: going to make you feel like just like a little

1221
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: bit of a heave and you tell me I love it.

1222
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: I like before I put on the sock, especially a

1223
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: wool sock, like for the day, I just lather on

1224
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: the thickest layer of vassilina on my feet for what purpose?

1225
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: Because I like how dowey and and and soft my feet.

1226
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, they can't smell good on

1227
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: this show. And they said they smell great great in

1228
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: the show wearing sandals. Well, no, I I mean in

1229
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: barefoot at the very end, and I'm so nervous that

1230
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: someone will see a cracked heel. Oh my goodness, Jeff,

1231
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: No one's paying attention, but they absolutely are. Are you

1232
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: telling me some people look at if somebody was up

1233
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,919
Speaker 1: on stage and you saw, like, don't you always pay attention,

1234
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: even even like if the show is great? Aren't you like,

1235
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm not fixated on aren't you like, oh, when they

1236
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: lifted up their shirt you can kind of see their

1237
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: belly or whatever. You're always doing that. I will tell

1238
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: you this, I never look at feet. I never noticed shoes.

1239
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: I I do. I'm guilty of this. When someone's performing

1240
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: on stage, I am very conscious of their butt. I'm

1241
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: always looking like what they're about doing? What's male? Female?

1242
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: I always? I just I mean, you want to see

1243
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: if it's rattling anything out. I was like, what's the

1244
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: butt situation on this performer? Isn't it just amazed? Anything?

1245
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: Like of Audra McDonald farting like mid I literally never

1246
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: thought about her farting before in my life, and now

1247
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 1: I just thought of in college, when somebody's like Jesus

1248
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: masturbated and You're like, you know, oh my god, imagine

1249
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: like having that argument whether Jesus masturbated or not. That's

1250
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Speaker 1: like a very Christian camp argument. Oh sorry, I went

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01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: to Christian. Okay, So did you have that argument? And

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01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: what was the who wants? So? What are what are

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01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: the what's the evidence behind this? Well, it's just that

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01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, he is both human and divine, so the

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01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: idea that if you are human you would have sexual

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01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: desires and blah blah blah, and also like is it

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01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: a sin to masturbate? Doesn't it's sacred masturbation? Yeah, she

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01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: said that in her Diane saw Your interview. She was like,

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01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of sacred. And Diane Sawyer said,

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01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: what was Actually I'm Confusedly, it's actually literally what happened?

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01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: She wait, hold on, I don't think I meant to

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: say that was that when she was saying like I'm

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01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: a virgin and stuff. Remember that interview where her eyelash

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01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: fell off? No, no, no, wait it wasn't. It wasn't.

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01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: It was after justin Timberlake had told the world that

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01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: he sucked her And Diane was like, so we heard

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01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: actually maybe not so true. It was like very slight.

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01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: Was this the interview where she like burnt down and cried. No,

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01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: that was with Matt Lauer. Oh, that's where her eyelash

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01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: that she was not in a good place and that baby.

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01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: But I also was like, who put her eyelashes on?

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01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: That they fell off from a blake. I'm Louisiana makeup.

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01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: Are you a Britney fan? Um? Yes, but not like

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: um yeah, I'm not a super fan. Right, So do

1275
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: you follow? Do you follow on Instagram? No, it's it's

1276
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: it's just told me you should follow. Katherine's aid to

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01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: Jones and my friend Jen like she's she'll like post

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01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: a thing where it's like a refrigerator just completely full

1279
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: of ice cream, and she'd be like, my friends, bud

1280
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: me ice cream. Oh my god, I need to see that.

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01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:28,879
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that poor thing? Is she? Okay? Yeah?

1282
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: So Matt and Matt and mar friend Dave have have

1283
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: this joke in one of their shows about how, like,

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01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, to conjure Katherine's Aida Jones essence, you would

1285
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: just need clon up in a black cat a courtroom,

1286
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 1: clon up in h and A and a solid dark

1287
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: a dark smoky eye. And then if you put that

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01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: in the college. When you get Katherine's don't know what,

1289
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: that's someone else who's been through a lot as Katherine's ada.

1290
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, Look, they've all been through a lot,

1291
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: I know. And she's not open about how she has

1292
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: uh bi polar. She definitely is and proud about I'm proud,

1293
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: but she's she's taken away to come forward about being bipolar,

1294
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's important. And she was also I think

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01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: she's rather friendly with Michael Douglas because she was on

1296
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: stage with Kirk Douglas at the still technically married? Are

1297
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: they married? I can't follow that ship. But yeah, apparently

1298
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: on interview to get in front of some inappropriate right

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01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: of course, well another one bites the goddamn dust, the

1300
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: goddamn test. She looked well at that award, she did.

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01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: She was wearing some nice sea through black, I gotta

1302
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: tell you. In Chicago, she said at the best. Yes,

1303
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: I watched that movie so many times just for that,

1304
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: um but I can't do it. She made it as

1305
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: good as it was. I think, just when she just

1306
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: walks up that oh my god, my god. And you

1307
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: know what I think. I think my first public performance

1308
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: of queerness was to other my my eighth grade friends

1309
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: in my living room and performed the Hot Honey Rag

1310
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: for them as as the movie was playing. The back

1311
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: to talk about a deep cut. I love that hot

1312
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: Honey rag. That was. That was when I knew my

1313
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: dad wouldn't stop talking about John c Riley in that movie.

1314
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: After we saw it, he was like he was unbelievable.

1315
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, wow, this is what you grabbed

1316
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: from this movie. They could have cast a better I know,

1317
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: but that's a rising tide lifts a boats situation. I

1318
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: think I thought they could off. It was just like fine,

1319
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: they could have cast a better MS. I think so

1320
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: I was Queen Latifa. It's like, you know she was

1321
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: the fourth choice. She was. You think they actually did

1322
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: say they would try to get Bett Middler. They would

1323
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 1: have been amazing. They were doing the movie of Chicago.

1324
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: They tried to get somebody, big and body. Although you

1325
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: got Roxy, you got Velma, you got Billy, those are

1326
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: the big three, and then they nailed it for all.

1327
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: You know, remember when Renelgo was huge. I loved her

1328
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: still do. Look, oh, I made this comment. I loved

1329
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: I really appreciated Lucy Lose cameo in Chicago. Because it

1330
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: is completely implausible for an Asian woman in the twenties

1331
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: to be like that wealthy and assimilated and that speak

1332
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: speak And yeah, they also wouldn't have a jail cell

1333
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: in the twenties that would be interracially mixed. Either one

1334
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: was there too, Yes I do. I'm just saying I

1335
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: loved that the touches of I loved witch she was wearing.

1336
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: It was like it was so gorgeous, it was all diamonds.

1337
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: It was Rob Marshall had his chance to be Ryan Murphy,

1338
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: and I don't think, yeah, he really did nail it.

1339
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: What was what was his big misstep? After Chicago did

1340
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: Memoirs of h But then didn't you direct something nine

1341
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: as well? Which I actually enjoy? Yeah, like Penelope CRUs Yeah,

1342
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: but you know I saw m the Revival on Broadway,

1343
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: and um, Jane, miss Jane, she came down. I cry.

1344
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 1: You know what. I cried? When people fly? I cry

1345
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: when um, when people fly, I cry. That's gonna be

1346
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: the little quote, right when people fly when the Annie

1347
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: Potts would be I'm saying any it was Andrew Martin,

1348
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: but I didn't see the original cast in Pippen, And

1349
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: you know she goes up, which, by the way, I

1350
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: hate that Grandma number. I'm always because you know I

1351
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: saw it was like Loona exactly, so Phiola is dying

1352
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: as she sings it. I'm talking about in Pippen when

1353
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: they made Annie Potts fly. Andrew Martin did it first,

1354
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: but I started weeping. I could not stop crying. It

1355
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: was so gorgeous. It's like when it's like when Beyonce

1356
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: grabs the hook and then fly over to the beast. Yes,

1357
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: thee Yeah, that's what it's called. The stage, a stage

1358
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: and the beast. She's like, hey, look it's it's breathtaking.

1359
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: She's a breathtaking performer. I want nothing. And they were like,

1360
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be We're going to fly you

1361
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: in the script is all about flying and stuff. And

1362
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, we'll go to Broadway and

1363
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: so it'll be better on Broadway than when we do

1364
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: it in the regional thing. And then they were like,

1365
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: so okay, actually we're not gonna fly, You're just gonna

1366
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: hang you. And then they were like, okay, you just

1367
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: need to be rolled on in this cage. It was

1368
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: so disappointing how it felt what they thought their budget

1369
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: might be compared to the reality of staggering there. You

1370
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: don't get theater. I don't. I don't understand the money, Like,

1371
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: how does it happen? It's got to be crazy? But

1372
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: do you do you want? You never wanted to do theater?

1373
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: You were always a TV filming person. No, yeah, I

1374
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: mean we we both kind of like, well, I don't

1375
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: know his journeys different them, and I got involved in

1376
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: like comedy, they're doing sketch at in college show. It

1377
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: was never about like we performed, I performed live in life,

1378
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: my life perform, but it was never about theater. For

1379
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: me was a comedy. But um, I just think theater

1380
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: is the most is the most um risk inviting thing

1381
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: of all of of all of the mediums, right. I

1382
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: don't know. When Paul came, I realized I had skipped

1383
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: an entire like ten minute chunk, and I was like,

1384
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 1: oh my god, I skipped the whole thing about way,

1385
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: what did you do? What did you do? I was like, RuPaul,

1386
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: is here you need that? You need that piece of

1387
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: information for later, So I just put it in. I

1388
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: knew there was a non sequitor moment, and so I

1389
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: just put in that and then I went to the

1390
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: non sequitor again and I almost shipped my pants. That's

1391
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: very frazy. Dang, So is that is that one of

1392
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: the like top moments of like line forgetting you can

1393
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: you've ever had? Like yeah, because, like I said, every

1394
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: other player I've done, I've had like six lines, so

1395
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: like if you know this is what this is just you. Yeah,

1396
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: but it was really stressed. Although one time I did,

1397
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,560
Speaker 1: I was in that same show where I'm supposed to fly. I,

1398
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: um my mustache fell off in the middle of my song,

1399
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: and um so I made a joke about how my mustache.

1400
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 1: You know, I improvised. It's a gift and the really

1401
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 1: hard to get good at it too, right, thank you

1402
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: just have one out there. Yeah, you're just something You're

1403
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: not the sudden foster. Know. I listened to that improv

1404
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: in my heart and I said a joke about the

1405
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: mustache and anyway, because they all laughed and I was

1406
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: like writing so high off of my improvisation, I completely

1407
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: forgot my lyrics. That was probably worse. Sometimes sometimes you

1408
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: serve as a joke over the music over the lyrics.

1409
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes each time, each time, Mama, each time, Um okay,

1410
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: So I think it might be time to move on

1411
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: to I don't think so, honey, So so listen, and

1412
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: actually you must do our next live show. You will.

1413
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: I want to. We want you to too. So I'm

1414
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: happy with that table. Just so everyone knows, we've reached

1415
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: out to Jeff multiple times twice times. Couldn't do it

1416
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: because he's been doing Shakespeare in the Park and some such.

1417
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: You know, I love nonsense they are. He just took

1418
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: off the shoe and it smelled reeks of vassiline. Um, well,

1419
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: they're very cute, bru Romari. Yeah, you know where I

1420
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: got these babies? Um, Nordstrom rap hashtag resist um. So,

1421
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: speaking of resisting, this is I don't think so, honey,

1422
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: where we um step forward to resist something in culture,

1423
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: if you will, that's bothering us, um entirely. So this

1424
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: is where we take one minute to get on the

1425
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: clock and just really pick something apart in pop culture. Um,

1426
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: would you like to go first? I think could probably

1427
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: go first because something has consumed my life and I'll explain.

1428
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: I know what this is gonna be. This is Matt

1429
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: Rodgers is I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

1430
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honey, to all my friends who

1431
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 1: watched Real Housewives and didn't tell me how good it was,

1432
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: because now I have to look like an idiot getting

1433
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: involved in Real Housewives. Literally a decade late. This just

1434
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: happening me. With Project Runway. I'm literally ten years late

1435
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: on trends, and I don't think so, honey. The fact

1436
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: that it's also blending into my clothing. I've just now

1437
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: discovered unbutton ng button ing a flannel all the way

1438
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 1: up to the top. Apparently that was a trend like

1439
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 1: a while ago. Listen, all I know is I'm literally

1440
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,839
Speaker 1: obsessed with Real Hashwives of Beverly Hills. I'm gonna specifically

1441
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: call out Sudie Green, who I always thought the one

1442
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: classy thing about me over her was that she likes

1443
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 1: trash reality TV, and meanwhile, here I am, I love

1444
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: trash reality TV. Now you people should have just gotten

1445
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: me involved in it before. As my friends, you are

1446
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: cultural influences to me, and to fail me in this,

1447
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: I feel is damn it. It's damning So I think

1448
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: that I don't think so, honey, all of you who

1449
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: kept me from Erica Jane. I literally can't stop watching

1450
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: the expensive music video and that's one minute. Have you

1451
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: seen the video expensive by Erica Jane. I can't believe

1452
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: how long have you known about it? Years? It came

1453
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: out like a year ago. Yeah, it's taken too long.

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01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: She hasn't been on that long, right, and relatively to

1455
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: like third season, I think our fourth season, but she popped.

1456
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, y love Eric. So I just I

1457
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: just recently got into it. I watched like the last

1458
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: two seasons of New York and then I wanted to

1459
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: watch Beverly Hills because I'm so fascinated with Erica Jane.

1460
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: So I started with season six when she started. But

1461
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: now there's a lot of flashbacks to this crazy ass

1462
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: Brandy Glanville character, who I must know what that's about.

1463
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: She was married to somebody, Eddie Brian, and then he

1464
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: cheated on her with miss goddamn Leanne Rhymes, which is

1465
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 1: the gag of the year, Leanne that Leanne rhymes because

1466
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: they were in movie together. Yes, they were my fell

1467
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 1: in love, not on like Ms brad Pitt and Mr Angelia.

1468
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: So I'm starting which I did on accident, but now

1469
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to change um. At Matt's recommendation, I'm

1470
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: starting with season six, I believe of Beverly Hills and

1471
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: it's not, it's not hasn't stuck with me? To stee at,

1472
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm still in that first episode doesn't stick with you,

1473
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: it becomes a part of your life because while it's

1474
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: on and you're doing dishes and things around the house,

1475
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: like you realize you know these women, and all of

1476
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: a sudden, you start, like you know how when you're

1477
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: doing things in your life and you picture yourself as

1478
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 1: someone else, like like you know that thing of like

1479
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: when you just see a movie or something, and then

1480
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: the lead character that movie you like, and so you

1481
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,560
Speaker 1: picture yourself as them in your mind's eye. Does that

1482
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:52,879
Speaker 1: ever happen to you? Okay, well, I'm I'm Kyle Richards

1483
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: and I've been Kyle Richards for a few days now,

1484
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: and I'm also it's so sad, I'm Lisa Anna. I'm

1485
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:03,879
Speaker 1: Lisa Rinna and Lisa all right. I don't like the conflict.

1486
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: There's too much conflict for me. I'm a real people pleaser,

1487
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: so it's really awkward. So what do you watch? People

1488
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: sitting by the beach or something. I know, I don't

1489
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: like the conflict because it's it's real, like manufactured, it's

1490
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: completely produced, it's completely as. The things about it are

1491
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 1: like so deep. It's like him, I'm so sorry, but

1492
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: did you tell everyone in this city that I have

1493
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: an eating disorder? It's like never small, it's always like

1494
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: you told different one I have a Munchhausen syndrome, a

1495
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: disease in which you make up having a disease to

1496
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: get attention. I really have lime disease. It's like so

1497
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: specific and insane. So apparently what they do is, um,

1498
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: they they'll just like have to housewives, like you know,

1499
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: catch up over drinks, and they'll have them just sit

1500
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: there for hours and talk about everything, every possible topic,

1501
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: and then the team of producers will just be watching

1502
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: and then they'll write down a little note cards like

1503
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 1: the topics that they'll have talked about, put them on

1504
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: a on a corkboard and be like, um, actually, can

1505
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: I have that for this episode when they when when

1506
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: this happened, so that they connect these are I mean,

1507
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: it's like this genius. It's genius. It's so engineered and

1508
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: it's it's it's wild, and I just it is just

1509
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: sort of architect in this way that just makes me

1510
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: feel uneasy. What what bothers me is when like, in

1511
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: order to get a plat point starting started, one of

1512
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: them will just say I received a text with a

1513
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: picture or like someone told me this, and it's like who,

1514
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: and then you realize it's absolutely a producer, totally totally.

1515
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: They'll just like have like that little part will just

1516
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: be in a d R later and you can absolutely

1517
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: tell that they were like, oh, we need this to

1518
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: edit together, so so, you know, can you say this

1519
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: thing exactly? So she's like in a studio being like, hey,

1520
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,799
Speaker 1: can I talk to you about you know? In reality

1521
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 1: shows is the most ironic anyway. I really enjoying it.

1522
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: I think I have one. Here we go. This is

1523
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey, his time will

1524
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: begin now. I don't think so many magicians who reveal

1525
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 1: their secrets. I was working with the magician today on

1526
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 1: set and he just spilled all the beans, and honestly,

1527
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: it felt like the last nail and the coffin of

1528
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: my innocence. I it really broke the illusion completely, and

1529
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: I had no respect for this man. He was wonderful,

1530
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: he's a very talented magician, but he just had no

1531
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: hesitation about telling telling me all about the card tricks,

1532
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: all about the coin stuff, all about this one trick

1533
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: where he turns a bubble into a glass or but

1534
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: it was he's an incredibly talented magician. Um. I won't

1535
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: say his name, but he just I think he just

1536
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: felt like there was, you know, a rapport connection, and

1537
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: so he just let me know. And you what, you

1538
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: have killed the child inside of me, and I just

1539
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: had I'm I'm a new uncle and just to just

1540
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: to have to have that inner child murdered just as

1541
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: my niece is born is factually tragic, and I don't

1542
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: think so, Honey, Magic the Magician, that's his name. Magic

1543
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: is very talented. His name is Magic the Magician. I

1544
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: think it's it's an alias, of course. And he murdered

1545
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: your inner child just as your niece is born, just

1546
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: as my niece. That's the beginning of the movie about this.

1547
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: He's born today. My niece was born today. I know

1548
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: she was born on Thursday's Beautiful young girl, Elie Wiss,

1549
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get her a onesie that says, miss Weiss,

1550
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: excuse me, miss Weiss. I love, I love referring to

1551
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 1: the basics, Miss Weiss, Like when she starts crawling. Just

1552
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, miss Weisse, crawl, you better crawl, miss Wise,

1553
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: you better learn to chew. I see him as Weiss.

1554
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm one of those people that who posts

1555
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: baby pictures and it's my baby. It's it's wild. I

1556
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: hope I don't fully slip into that. My two best

1557
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: friends now have nieces and I feel that I must

1558
01:26:53,400 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: care about children now and it's exhausting. It's a lot. Okay, Jeff,

1559
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: you don't what what were you going to say? Well?

1560
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: Then I was like, well, should I make that my

1561
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: think because whatever you'd like? Okay, I don't know. I

1562
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: feel like I'm I feel like I should try and

1563
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: make my something about like promoting the show. But okay, okay, okay, okay, alright,

1564
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: let the show drop away, just forget okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,

1565
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: all right, you know what I'm just gonna say it.

1566
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: Then this is gonna be mine. Alright, alright, this is it.

1567
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 1: This is Jeff Hillers. I don't think so, honey, a

1568
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: time starts. I'm so excited his time starts now. Okay,

1569
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, Because like, if you see

1570
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: a baby in your Instagram feed. All you have to

1571
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: do is move your finger like this up. Okay, it's

1572
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal. If you see a

1573
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: freaking baby or a freaking dog or a freaking chaot,

1574
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: they're adorable and they're lovely, and I choose to follow

1575
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 1: all of them because there's something that's inside of me

1576
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 1: that's a little bit dead, and that warp warms it up. Okay.

1577
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: I happen to have a cat on Instagram daily Underscore

1578
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: Beverly follower for a really cute cat picks okay, and

1579
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, bright colors and bold patterns

1580
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: at the Soho Playhouses, playing four times a week, starring

1581
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 1: me Jeff Hiller replacing Drew Drow. And also, you know what,

1582
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,799
Speaker 1: if the people like to show pictures of their animals

1583
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,839
Speaker 1: or their babies, it's because that is the external portion

1584
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: of their love of their body, and so they have

1585
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: to bring it up to everyone else. And for God's sake,

1586
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: come see the show. It's not only serious, it's also hilarious.

1587
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: A second, Oh you know what else? I think just

1588
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: double tap things. It's not hard, you move your fingers.

1589
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that people should just like people

1590
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: should just like worswipe. What's it? What's your problem? You

1591
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about it? Oh well, I have

1592
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 1: to say I manufactured a little bit of my anger,

1593
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: But I do I do think what's the problem? Scrolling

1594
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: a little fast? Or just honey? Exactly exactly? Like I

1595
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: love hearing that you love your niece, Like that's so nice.

1596
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: I think that that teaches me so much more about

1597
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: you than some sort of like framed um you know,

1598
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: like you know, like deciding like this is how I'm

1599
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: going to project my life. It's like, you know, Paul

1600
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: came to see me. You know, that's beautiful. But op

1601
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 1: posting your baby pick is the most earnest thing you

1602
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 1: can do on social media, just short of posting, you know,

1603
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: a meal culture number number. The most earnest thing you

1604
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 1: can do on social media is supposed to picture. Come on.

1605
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: The most earnest you can do social media is supposed

1606
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: to I really love that I shoehorned you into having

1607
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: to say, you know, here's the thing. It's it's not

1608
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,600
Speaker 1: that I don't like the babies. I'm sure if I

1609
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 1: saw them they'd be wonderful. But the other day someone

1610
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: handed me a photo of their baby, and the baby

1611
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: was in different costumes and I was like, I gotta

1612
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 1: tell you, it's the same baby. I just on the

1613
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,600
Speaker 1: other cross them. That's so funny because I love a

1614
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: good and I especially love a baby in a wig.

1615
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 1: I love a good I love it. I love a

1616
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: baby in a costume in person, yes, all right, But

1617
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: I love a three dimensional baby. Three D baby that is.

1618
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: That's so weird because I went to a birthday party

1619
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: last night and we put the birthday board in a

1620
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: lift and he was he was like, something's under my

1621
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: seat and just this humongous cardboard got out of a

1622
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: baby face and he just put it on the window

1623
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: and drop away with this huge cardboard baby. That's what

1624
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They're they're horrifying one pictured. Yeah, it was,

1625
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 1: I guess you what. It was a little time, right.

1626
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: It was disturbing. I saw someone that I only knew

1627
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,879
Speaker 1: on social media exclusively the other day and they described

1628
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 1: me as so much more three dimensional. I was like, honey,

1629
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 1: you have no idea. I didn't say I r L Yeah,

1630
01:30:56,320 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: ironically say I r L l L. I do say

1631
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: bt w um, that's very sorry. I say, wait, you

1632
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: say bt w like by the way, Yeah, yeah, what's

1633
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 1: the one I say recently that I was like ll

1634
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll say L O L, but I think it's

1635
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 1: a joke. Yeah, yeah, I think I say BT dubs dubs.

1636
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: It's one. Bus is fun. Everyone will know what you mean.

1637
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: It's not G two G. That's horrible. Can I say

1638
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: b r B br B? I say br B tow

1639
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 1: rb b r B. I'm gonna go pee. Oh that's good.

1640
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, because you know it's horrible to have

1641
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: to share that you're shipping. You know what, Jeff, Jeff

1642
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 1: did something historic and as I don't think Sony, I

1643
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: just want to point out he really just if if

1644
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,640
Speaker 1: anyone shorned anything, it was Jeff. Oh you know what,

1645
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: I really respect that. I respects too as two people

1646
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: who are coming up and trying to find new and

1647
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 1: and and in innovative ways to self promote, to self promote.

1648
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Yeah. That was for Mama Rue.

1649
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: That was for Mama Rue because from Mama to Guru. Wow,

1650
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: that is beautiful. Well, this has been a fantastic episode.

1651
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: It's been a fantastic episode. And I have to say, Jeff,

1652
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: when you fly, we cry. I think that inspires a song. Um, first,

1653
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: I want to say bright colors and bold patterns, four

1654
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: nights a week at the SOHO Playoffs Playoffs, bring your bed,

1655
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Bath and beyond tickets or I'm sorry, bed bath and

1656
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: beyond coupons. Any last words for the people listening to

1657
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: this podcast, because you've given a lot of knowledge, So

1658
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 1: just leave us with something beautiful and then we'll sing

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Speaker 1: us out. Okay, Um, if you uh, you should get

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Speaker 1: this little tool and if you ever get a white hind,

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Speaker 1: you can scrape it off and it won't get infected.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't do that this week. You got a

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Speaker 1: scrape that ship off your face, Scrape that ship of

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Speaker 1: off your face, scrape that ship right off your face.

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Speaker 1: Today Today, Today, you're supposed to join me on a harmony.

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Speaker 1: I was I was looking at the peaks. Why are

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Speaker 1: you looking at the peak because that's for HPJ to

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Speaker 1: deal with. Well, all right, you know what, this has

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Speaker 1: been a fucking disaster When people fly right, you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Oh we sounded like a um what's a three person trio?

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Speaker 1: What's it a quartet? That's because we put it in

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Speaker 1: the mask Audra Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production.

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