00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, your presences, presents, and I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:49 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm pretcher winnegar. What's going on? Ellis is not here today. Ellis is in Spain. Elie will be there in Spain. They've lied to me before, so God knows where they really are, probably laying low somewhere. I don't know. Maybe they'll be back. Elis is not here. We're in the studio. Very little happening for me because the last like six days I finally started watching I gave in too Love is Blind. Love is Blind, Ohio. And so that's kind of cut me off from talking to other people. And by the time this episode releases, culture will have fully moved on to some other piece of art. So it's a show about a great group of guys and a great group of gals, all of their heads on straight. That's basically the show. Is there anything else that's going on? Do I have any business? Let's see, no no. I mean that's truly. I mean I've shut down conversation after conversation the last three days with people who haven't watched Love is Blind, and then I just have nothing left to say. Nothing's really gone bad yet today, So it's just a matter of time. And I should probably mention that the Patreon exists. Have I mentioned it lately? I probably have. I don't care. You need to be reminded patreon dot com slash. I said no gifts, bonus episodes, recipes, pet photos. I mean those are all those are three things, and there's probably at least four things on the Patreon. So go there. And is there any actual business? I don't think so Love is Blind. Ohio, I love today's guest. He's back. It's Johnny Pemberton. Johnny, welcome back to I said no gifts. 00:02:36 Speaker 3: Let me get your McDonald's order. Okay, let me soothe you with McDonald's order. Please. Ten piece buffalo, ten ten piece buffalo. 00:02:43 Speaker 2: Huh you watched it. 00:02:45 Speaker 3: I watched that. My wife watches that show, and she showed me, She's like, you have to see this. I think that's one of them. But the biggest, like pieces of like burning trash, I've ever seen as far as like, oh, just that guy that both just the worst people. 00:03:04 Speaker 2: How much of that guy were you exposed to? 00:03:06 Speaker 3: Just his conversation with the family at dinner. 00:03:09 Speaker 2: The dinner is one of the weirdest things I've ever heard. 00:03:12 Speaker 3: He's like a ballet of bullshit. The way he's like, you have I wasn't talking to my friend Josh last night about it. It's like we have to do something that's like aping this right, because the way he speaks is so just a three years Actually was I picked up. I was doing some finance actually Arizona. Yes, was correct, because California was something we've been interested in. Soccer has been a priority for me, and that's something that I feel that's a good thing because finance is always Yes, I'm going back to that, but it wasn't a job per se. It's more of a career interested. 00:03:45 Speaker 2: Tie In's like this can never stops talking like that because he's so fully he's a drifter. He is. He you can't pin him down where he was living, what he was doing at any time. There's something going on, Like there's something going on. Imagine talking to a friend in that way, like and trying to form a relationship. 00:04:02 Speaker 3: You can't. It is just alarm bells going off. 00:04:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was told last night someone sent me a video from one of his former co workers he was living when he got cast on that show. He was living in Scottsdale, Yes, and working for like a tech sales company and not doing a good job apparently. So and then he keeps going back to soccer, which apparently was like fourteen years ago. 00:04:24 Speaker 3: What is does anyone ever had a job in soccer? Like any American ever had a what Ted Lasso is the only person to ever have a job right in America? 00:04:33 Speaker 2: Your job is soccer coach? Well, then that's volunteer work. Yeah, unless you're literally Ted Lesson. 00:04:38 Speaker 3: You're cutting oranges, Bro, you're cutting oranges. 00:04:41 Speaker 2: You're passing out jukes boxes. 00:04:43 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous soccer soccer as career. 00:04:46 Speaker 2: The other thing that was a big red flag. Oh you haven't seen all of it, but was the confidence in saying, well, we'll live in either Arizona or Florida. Those are the only two options. 00:04:54 Speaker 3: Those are just places that they agreed that he didn't say check a box. Is that you know that reality where it's like they get the thing wrong constantly, it's like, well that really that moved our box, and so we're I don't want to be barking up a ten foot pole here because when the ship rises, our waters are going to be it's so. 00:05:14 Speaker 2: Wid And then the father in that situation is also just like kind of an evil chrone. He looks uh to me, he looked, did you ever see Witches with Angelica Houston? 00:05:25 Speaker 3: I mean, I think your souls point in the movie when the. 00:05:28 Speaker 2: Witches, who are all kind of beautiful women remove their mask and wigs and become kind of the nasty goblin. That's and then his like the father's approval when the son said that he would have voted for Trump, I mean everything about Oh. 00:05:42 Speaker 3: My god, that part was like what the who are these pieces of trash? 00:05:45 Speaker 2: I know. That's the other thing about the show is you're watching kind of like thirty year olds who seem like they are like from the city, like the city. They start revealing what they are. Oh interesting, every one of you is a mega psycho. But you know, as I've said, this episode comes out in like four weeks and people will be watching Love is Blind nineteen. 00:06:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, will they will have moved on from that that guy. 00:06:07 Speaker 2: If that guy, but he'll probably have committed some sort of something. 00:06:11 Speaker 3: Soccer crimes, crimes against soccer humanity. 00:06:15 Speaker 2: Okay, so you watched one episode of that and you were just telling me you were watching some horrible movies over the weekend as well. 00:06:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched Pacific Heights with Melanie Griffith and Matthew Modine. 00:06:25 Speaker 2: What's the general story of this movie? What's the thrill element of my? 00:06:28 Speaker 3: Young couple I'm married buys a house in the Pacific Heights, San Francisco. They cannot afford, but it has spaces to rent out so they can make some money, oh interest, to pay off their mortgage. They cannot afford this house, but they fix it up and they get a bad tenant. And this bad tenant is Michael Keaton and he is like abusing the laws. Of course, Matthew Matthew Modine can't be he can't be chill and he does some stuff that because that goes against tenant law. And Laurie metcalf is in it a little bit. 00:06:56 Speaker 2: He's my favorite person a lot unbelievable. 00:06:59 Speaker 3: I've seen her twice in public and she's one of the few people I'm like, I don't, I can't. 00:07:03 Speaker 2: I don't know what I would do around her. I mean she's scary, she's like an intimidating person. Yeah, and she's like endlessly talented. 00:07:10 Speaker 3: Just I think she's one of the most talented actors too in the last one hundred years. 00:07:15 Speaker 2: Did you find it getting on? 00:07:16 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? That shit is? I mean, I grew up in Rochester, Minnesota. All my it's what the male clinic is, right, pretty much everyone I knew was a doctor, sure, Like I know. 00:07:28 Speaker 2: That, and I know that so well, right, that whole like kind of probably kind of social scene, the. 00:07:33 Speaker 3: Social scene and just the type of person who is successful in medicine, Like the character she plays is I knew three of that woman. 00:07:41 Speaker 2: Were really jealous. Yeah, I've been shocked by how many people aren't aware of even getting on any idea of it at all. It's so good. It's one of the funniest shows I've. 00:07:51 Speaker 3: Ever Seenriguez just stunning, and. 00:07:54 Speaker 2: It's like very sweet and beautiful, old. 00:07:56 Speaker 3: Sweet and you see, Nash is so good. Everyone in the show is like playing against type and they're also great. It's just kind of like, I mean, yeah, it's it's a classic case of something it's so great that it just doesn't have enough. It's not it's not like scandalous, it's not like it like it's. 00:08:16 Speaker 2: It doesn't have some sort of thing that can be thrown to general people. 00:08:20 Speaker 3: It doesn't have like the lusty vibe of like a white lotus type thing. 00:08:24 Speaker 2: So there's no pr Yeah, and I can imagine somebody like glimpsing at a trailer of that and being like, oh, that's like a bleak hospital. 00:08:32 Speaker 3: And it's bleak as ship. 00:08:34 Speaker 2: But you watch it and it's like very funny. 00:08:36 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so funny because it's based on a British show, you. 00:08:38 Speaker 2: Know, right, I never saw the British version. I really like. I think it's Vicky Pepperdiners who created that pepper dye. She and Julia Davis Davis and Vicky Pets the funniest people alive as well. I should watch the British one of them. But wait, so Laura is in Pacific Heights. 00:08:59 Speaker 3: Isn't it just a little little bit? 00:09:00 Speaker 2: And Michael Keaton's just kind of a bad egg. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: He probably shot five days on that. He's like a bad guy. He's like twiddling a razor blade, like just the most. It is a piece of crap movie. It is a crap movie. They all know it. Like it's one of those things where you wonder how they felt at their premiere kind of thing. 00:09:20 Speaker 2: Right where they're all like they know they can't really say it to each other, yeah, but they want each other to know that. They know it's bad. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: They got to fulfill the contract of promotion. 00:09:29 Speaker 2: But it's his goal in the movie. 00:09:31 Speaker 3: Is it like a it's he's he's like a trust fund crazy guy. I mean, you gotta just see it. He's a trust fund guy whose family got him to go away and he's got money. So he says he's scamming people doing like a rent scam thing. 00:09:44 Speaker 2: Oh okay, like I'm rich. 00:09:45 Speaker 3: He has a Porsche, so people are, oh, he's got a Porsche. He's like, oh, my business is actually a private trust. I will how about I wire you the first six months they're like, oh oh great, yes, great, yes. 00:09:56 Speaker 2: This is kind of like Alex from Love is Blind. Similar time. 00:10:00 Speaker 3: It definitely is. 00:10:01 Speaker 2: It's definitely that he's probably run a similar scheme. 00:10:03 Speaker 3: It's like a successful version of Alex from Love is Blind. 00:10:10 Speaker 2: When was the last time you had a roommate, does my spouse not count? Yeah, pre spouse. 00:10:16 Speaker 3: Pre spouse was probably, uh maybe twelve thirteen, maybe fourteen years. 00:10:22 Speaker 2: Have you ever had like a bad roommate situation? 00:10:25 Speaker 3: I actually never have. No, I've only had really great roommates. 00:10:28 Speaker 2: Oh that's lovely. Yeah, that's really I feel like, well, I got out of the roommate game pretty quickly. So, but the idea of like having to live with somebody that I have a hard time living with someone I really love. 00:10:39 Speaker 3: It is some people, really do? I think I've never lived alone. 00:10:44 Speaker 2: You've never lived alone except for some. 00:10:46 Speaker 3: Times I've been on location, like for like maybe you know six months. 00:10:49 Speaker 2: Right, do you? When you're living alone? How does that feel? Is it unsettling for you? No? 00:10:55 Speaker 3: Yes, and no, I kind of love it, okay. But also it's that thing where I just like around people a lot. Sure, you know, I really enjoy it. I like having a space, like having like a room, sure, an office or place I can retreat to my place. Yeah, place I can like, you know, be me, place I can be me. But also I do like I like having the camaraderie or something like that. 00:11:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like you're somebody who also makes really good use of their time. I feel like you find hobbies and you throw yourself into them. So I don't know, I feel like you have a very healthy way of being alive. 00:11:28 Speaker 3: I mean, what's that when they say, uh, perception is everything, So it's all just uh. 00:11:36 Speaker 2: Scam, I guess sort of. 00:11:37 Speaker 3: I mean I spent the entire day yesterday breaking my back repaving the front walkway, and like that's why. 00:11:44 Speaker 2: I mean, like that's amazing to me. 00:11:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just because it's like I needed to do that because I just finished I just finished shooting my first comedy special, oh right, right, And it was the most work I've ever done in my entire life, just about because it's not like a special special. I'm not like staying with a microphone. It's like it's like a one man show. I have all these these cues and sound cues and like music things and all this stuff. It's so utterly complicated, and I you know, I built my own prison in that sense, right, So it was just so much work coming off of that. I always have that thing where you know, I almost get sick. I did this time, luckily, but I just don't know what to do with myself. I go, I'm just mad with inactivity. 00:12:26 Speaker 2: Right, and that sort of activity where it's a very clear directive. You've like once you get it started, you basically know what you're doing the entire time. There are no curve balls, and you. 00:12:33 Speaker 3: Can't work on it enough. There's no amount that is you'll never be like, oh I did it all. Because there's even some jokes I fucked up and I didn't forgot there's stuff I forgot to say. But it's fine, sure, because everything. Sure, it's wonderful, it's outstanding. It's so good, it's it's so I'm so happy with that. I can't believe it. But it's still in those things where it's like like the drop off, you know, the continental shelf kind of thing. Oh yeah, of course, yeah, it's why I'm in the uh I'm in that place now where it's super deep. I'm like, what do I do? 00:13:05 Speaker 2: But then you can pave? How does that even work? In front of your house? You've got little pavers. 00:13:10 Speaker 3: I have bricks, but a bunch of them were broken and they're a weird size because they're like legacy bricks. Legacy brick it's a brick that doesn't exist now because now home deep ow and lows they have they have two sizes and everything you know and everything is like everything's been winnowed down to the most generic version of the thing. And if you want something, yeah, one character, you have to go to like a specialty store in Pasadena and talk to a guy who's like surly. But if you and so, there's no I'm not gonna find the bricks. So I decided to cut some bricks I have. It were longer, and I bought a chisel. Doesn't work. Even my neighbor who's an engineer, tried. It doesn't work. So I had to get a special masonry saw blade to cut them. Worked like a dream with a fucking dream. But then I got to set them in by the masonry sand, get the fucking polymetric sand to fill in the cracks ground All. 00:14:01 Speaker 2: This, Chris is also are you how are you teaching yourself to do this? This is what I'm always so curious with you. Where I'm like, where is the information coming from before you know how to do it? Because oh you are. 00:14:11 Speaker 3: Watching blond that once. It's like basically this thing where we have all the information that's ever existed just in this little you know, right controlled by a massive, you know, semi governmental entity. 00:14:25 Speaker 2: But you can kind of learn to lay bricks all kinds of things like that. 00:14:29 Speaker 3: Nothing can't be that hard. 00:14:30 Speaker 2: So are you done laying off the bricks? 00:14:32 Speaker 3: Now? Yeah? I did it, and it was only four bricks. I was replacing, oh four, but I had to regrout it all. So I did that all one day. 00:14:38 Speaker 2: Right, I'm basically asking this because I'm like, I'm trying to gather information from my own yard. Yeah, because my whole lawn in the backyard is dead. Because if our new dog has peed all over, it's good. It's placing the lawn with clover. I think maybe just with uh, Saint Augustine rock or something else. 00:14:54 Speaker 3: That's why I just said that too. Yesterday you did, so what I have this new technique. So what you do because clover, we try to clover didn't fucking work, right, I don't know why. I think because the trees were just too much canopy, so its shading it out too much. You take a bunch of just like, get the cheapest bags of top soil, spread that out. Then you buy bags of pebble like like, uh, you know, the like little pebbles, right, Yeah, they come in like a bag of like forty fifty pounds bags. You put the dirt down and you spread that pebble out, and what does it creates sort of like a like a surface you can walk on when it's wet and and maybe something will grow there. If it does, it does okay, But it's also a nice surface that's not like dirty because you have enough pebble to be I think that's great. 00:15:39 Speaker 2: Well, and I needed this because playing fetch with her in the backyard is also with muddy or grass. It's a total design for time all the way. So gravel, this is probably the wave of the future. All these other groundcover things. I'm like, I guess if you're not walking on them or I don't know, I don't believe that they're actually going to grow in my yard, somebody else could pull it on. Clover's go. 00:16:00 Speaker 3: But you got to fence off the area for like three weeks. I don't have that time exactly, And the dog needs to do something. 00:16:05 Speaker 2: Yes, that's a usable space that has to be used every single multiple times a day. So what am I supposed to do? 00:16:11 Speaker 3: In the meantime exactly, we had a little strip, a little poop. 00:16:14 Speaker 2: And pistrkay right, and that you know my dog whould go in the neighborhood. Well, we take her on. She's very polite in that way, and of course I take bags with me every time. But she refuses to use the neighborhood as a toilet. I don't know why. So that's causing me a decent amount of trouble. 00:16:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but does both? 00:16:37 Speaker 2: Does both? I would like to get to the point where we're doing both, kind of a hybrid situation, because the walks right now are purely for exercise and smelling. I would like to throw in using the toilet. I don't know how to get her. 00:16:49 Speaker 3: To that point, like a scared dog. 00:16:51 Speaker 2: Apparently when we sent her on these pack walks once a week and she does it then, so I don't understand. But that's in Griffith Park, so maybe she's feeling more in nature or whatever. Are you walking your dog out in like for long walks or is. 00:17:04 Speaker 3: It we day? I do about twenty minute walk because she demands it. She won't leave me alone. She's a wonderful dog. We got her about. She's almost two years old, right, we got her about, you know, just under a year. We love her. She's super sweet. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: She's smaller big dogs. 00:17:19 Speaker 3: She's fifty five pounds. 00:17:20 Speaker 2: Okay, nice small yeah right right, our medium size. 00:17:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's great, but she's also just so annoying because she's like the cutest thing in the world. She's like a model. She's honestly like a fucking model. 00:17:32 Speaker 2: Like, what sort of dog is she? She's a golden Oh okay, gorgeous, and she. 00:17:36 Speaker 3: Just is one of those dogs where she knows she sits pretty. She's like knows. I don't know how she knows, but somehow this dog knows that, like, oh she looks good and she's gonna get what she wants. How old is she she's almost two years old? 00:17:51 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, horrible. Yeah, our dog is gorgeous as well. But she doesn't know how to sit. She doesn't know how to kind of every sitting position is very awkward looking. She doesn't quite know where her body is in space, and she's very I mean, she stopped barking at strangers, which is nice. 00:18:06 Speaker 3: That's good. 00:18:07 Speaker 2: But she's like almost seventy five pounds, so when she starts barking and jumping at things. You feel bad. 00:18:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a dog like that before this, and she was even bigger, and it's like, you know, you have a big dog. It's that thing where you just can't you know. There's just a different thing between a big dog and a small dog. They can do the same activity, but one is acceptable. 00:18:27 Speaker 2: Ones like people are scared on like this as a monster. This person's irresponsible with their dog ownership. Did you train your own dog or did you bring somebody into the situation? 00:18:37 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:18:37 Speaker 3: We did both. My wife trained her mostly and then we took her to a class really close by to our house. This lady who's very very good at training. She was like the star of the class too. She had training. Oh right, she came in kind as she came in as a little ringer. So we trained her. But she needs to get trained again. I think it's time for round two. 00:18:57 Speaker 2: Our I think the only thing we need to train our dog is to stop barking at five thirty am. That's a struggle. Early, it's a tough thing. I've had to, Like, I've started putting in earplugs and then having to put on noise canceling headphones while I'm sleeping. 00:19:10 Speaker 3: Does she sleep in the same room? 00:19:12 Speaker 2: As you know, she's great trained once she's only a year old, so I think once she gets a little older, she'll start sleeping in the same bed. But right now, it's like for sona territory of waking up in her pe you know, could. 00:19:23 Speaker 3: Be yeah, gosh, that's rough. 00:19:25 Speaker 2: Where's your dog sleeping? 00:19:26 Speaker 3: She s in the crate in our bedroom? 00:19:28 Speaker 2: Okay, she does wake up. 00:19:30 Speaker 3: At you know, earlier than I want to get out. 00:19:33 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, the cratey because our dog's so big. The crate is huge, so it's like to put in the bedroom would feel crazy. 00:19:40 Speaker 3: We are crazy. We have we have no space. 00:19:44 Speaker 2: H you have no space? Okay, see that's what we would be dealing with, and I just refuse. I don't know. 00:19:48 Speaker 3: You're right, that's funny that it's loud enough to oh she barks. 00:19:52 Speaker 2: She's an extremely loud bark because she's a huge dog. So and she's relentless, and there's no need for it because like you know, she doesn't she's also a large dug so she doesn't really necessarily need to go to the bathroom at that time. She's eaten like probably five hours prior to this. There's no element of it where it's like she's in physical need, but she's just ready to get up and start doing things. 00:20:13 Speaker 3: Have you tried not letting her out? 00:20:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we've started doing, where like we you know, we just let her bark as long as possible until she stops. But that could be a lot. You feel terrible first of all, and secondly all it's very annoying. So there's a kind of a two pronged approach by her to get out of the crate. But I think we're getting to a point that we're at least able to be like we're just not going to do this because then she knows and then she's in control of the house. I don't know. 00:20:39 Speaker 3: I saw some trainers say whatever you do with your dog, that's the training them. So it doesn't matter whatever you Yeah, whatever habitual activity you do, that is training, right, whether you think you're training them, whether you're actively training them, they are being trained. So whatever you do, like, I mean, really trained our dog to get to walk at like ten am right, not because I want to, because she she asked me enough. 00:21:05 Speaker 2: And enough and so she gets it. This is me with giving the dog in an ice cube. Every time I use the ice cream cube machine, they know she hears the noise it's time. 00:21:14 Speaker 3: For an ice It takes like three repetitions in they're in yes to give. 00:21:18 Speaker 2: An ice cube. Yeah, yes, Sometimes it's like one or two times, and that's just what they are for the rest of their life. 00:21:24 Speaker 3: These dogs that have to have their food microwaved. No, there's dogs that like get habituated to that, and they don't actually microwave the food. They just turn the microwave on for like five seconds and then take it out and act like the dogs are satisfied. 00:21:37 Speaker 2: How do you get caught in that trap? 00:21:39 Speaker 3: I think it's it just happens accidentally once or twice, right, the dog refuses to eat until that you do it. Then when you do it, you're teaching them to expect it. Once you do it like five or ten times, it's over. 00:21:52 Speaker 2: Yeah. Our our old dog, Eaty would every time we would go to get a drink of water, she would go to her dish and get water. She just learned to do that. 00:22:00 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:22:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Little computers, there are little computers. They're smarter than you think they are. And also dumber than you think, like they're just programmable creature. 00:22:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're so impressionable. 00:22:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very sweet. Well, I think there's something else we should talk about. You were on the podcast I think a couple of years ago at this point. 00:22:19 Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit a while. 00:22:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, horrifying and we had a wonderful time. You did bring a gift, which was unfortunate. 00:22:27 Speaker 3: I know, I just can't help myself. 00:22:28 Speaker 2: Hand trucking today. Again, I was raised it and you're kind of programmed in a way. You brought a gift. Should we open it here on the podcast? It's beautifully wrapped. 00:22:41 Speaker 3: It's beautifully wrapped. 00:22:43 Speaker 2: I kind of knew immediately that's a gift for me. It's wrapped in this is this a track jackets? A track jacket beautiful, kind of a Kelly Green. 00:22:51 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, haven't even worn it yet. 00:22:53 Speaker 2: Oh you haven't worn it yet. 00:22:54 Speaker 3: I just gonna wear it today. But it's just so hot. 00:22:56 Speaker 2: I want to look at it before I see the gift. This is a great tracket. 00:23:00 Speaker 3: And when I picked it up at an vntage store, of course, very of course, of course, of course I didn't just buy and I got it an a vntage store. 00:23:09 Speaker 2: It is a nice vintage. 00:23:10 Speaker 3: In my travels. During one of my many travels I travel for work. You see, when I travel for work, I tend to shop a little bit. And my off time, well i'm not filming on camera, I do a bit of shopping at local vintage stores. That's where I precare. I have a funky little boutique staffed by a peculiar young man. 00:23:32 Speaker 2: What where was this purchase? 00:23:34 Speaker 3: In Winnipeg, Canada? 00:23:36 Speaker 2: So internationally? 00:23:37 Speaker 3: Of course, of course I tend to be traveling internationally. As I do have a passport, I get to use it quite quite quite often. 00:23:46 Speaker 2: Okay, well let me hand this back to you. Oh my god, you're really like filling out my garage. 00:23:50 Speaker 3: You know I got him. 00:23:52 Speaker 2: No one else is gonna Last time you brought me a hand truck, I did. 00:23:56 Speaker 3: The hand truck is such a good hand truck. 00:23:58 Speaker 2: It's an excellent hand truck, and you've brought me. I actually have to look at this to even te oh, it's a folding saw. This is really weapon levels, so it's more for tree trimming. 00:24:07 Speaker 3: I think it's it's not really a weapon. 00:24:09 Speaker 2: It's not really a blade, but it feels like you could whip it open, you know, like a switch blade. 00:24:13 Speaker 3: You could try it, but Fixers makes it pretty safe. Oh, I've got a button on there as a guard like a lock. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: Oh should I open it? 00:24:21 Speaker 3: You should just slide that backing up. 00:24:23 Speaker 2: So it's not one of these like painful. No, No, that's openness. 00:24:27 Speaker 3: I think this is Danish, right, Fixers is Danish to some sort of Scandinavian thing. 00:24:32 Speaker 2: Wow, look at that thing. I've never seen one. I've seen a lot of tools. 00:24:36 Speaker 3: So they have to push the button down to open it. But be careful. 00:24:40 Speaker 2: Okay, I was expecting it to just floil. 00:24:42 Speaker 3: Now that could. 00:24:43 Speaker 2: Possibly be that. 00:24:44 Speaker 3: It's not an automatic knife. Those are actually illegal. 00:24:47 Speaker 2: That's gorgeous. 00:24:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can trim a tree easily, trim a little branch, you know. 00:24:53 Speaker 2: Well, this is something I need all the time in my yard. 00:24:55 Speaker 3: That's what I figured. 00:24:56 Speaker 2: I've been using something that is not the correct tool. Yeah, Like it's beyond a snipper. It's like a pretty powerful. 00:25:06 Speaker 3: Lopper. 00:25:07 Speaker 2: Maybe a lopper is a handwinner or a cranker. It's one where you almost have to use two hands to get two hands. 00:25:14 Speaker 3: That's wrong. 00:25:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so it's like when I'm clipping things. Yeah, I don't even it must be too cut. What would you even cut? 00:25:21 Speaker 3: That would be a smaller thing like an inch or less. 00:25:24 Speaker 2: Right, and probably more less organic things, probably like wire. 00:25:28 Speaker 3: Or I shouldn't be using that for that, you know, certainly either lopper or like a just a tremor. But that looks like a big a big diameter two or three inch diameter. I'll cut easily through that. 00:25:39 Speaker 2: How often are you trimming your trees? 00:25:42 Speaker 3: I mean I'm trimming. If I'm not, I'm out there too much. It's like a like a rat, you know. I'm just always out there, touching and moving and stuff. 00:25:54 Speaker 2: Right, It's like kind of a constant. 00:25:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a bad habit. It's almost like an O. C. D thing where if I'll be talking my neighbor and I'll be pulling weeds as we're. 00:26:02 Speaker 2: Talking, which I think is very healthy. 00:26:04 Speaker 3: It is, but also when I think about it, it's kind of disrespectful to be pulling weeds as you're talking. 00:26:10 Speaker 2: To someone, right, You're like not putting all of your energy into But I feel like it just feels like something that grounds the conversation in a way where you're you know, you're doing something with your hands. You have to be doing something with your hands when you're talking to people. Why not have it be a project? 00:26:25 Speaker 3: If I can get a good phone call going mm hmmm, I'm unstoppable. 00:26:30 Speaker 2: Oh while you're out in the garden. Yeah, oh, that's a great idea. That's like my thing because I this is my big problem with talking on the phone is I'm just like, I'm wasting time right now. My body is worthless. I should start rolling calls while doing yard work. 00:26:44 Speaker 3: It is the ultimate thing ever. I've been doing it for so long, but something about it is just that if you can at any kind of gardening right with the on the phone. 00:26:55 Speaker 2: Call, that sounds lovely because I do like talking to my friends on the phone, and I feel like this is a because I'm I'm kind of running out of energy to like see friends for dinner. 00:27:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't that weird? How that? 00:27:06 Speaker 2: Like? 00:27:07 Speaker 3: I feel like nowadays that would be it's like a big deal. Yeah we're gonna have dinner. Okay, Yeah, well, oh gosh, okay, we're gonna have we're gonna meet. Even I would lunch is more casual, but even then. 00:27:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just right in the middle of the day, and then it just ruins the day. Then the day is just like on both sides, it's just what am I going to do then? Right? But a phone call while doing something practical feels last night I was having I probably had a forty five minute call about love is Blind and did nothing with my time except for talk about people I don't know marrying each other. 00:27:35 Speaker 3: But that's kind of nice, I suppose. I mean, I guess it depends. You could say that what I'm doing is a little bit I don't know, not disrespectful, but it's that thing where I'm like, I'm I'm doing something else while doing that thing. 00:27:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not looking at your phone. 00:27:52 Speaker 1: That to me is. 00:27:55 Speaker 2: Like the rage that will go through me if I'm trying to talk to somebody and they're instead of looking at their phone, that feeling is horrible. But I feel like if there's something that's repetitive, that just feels like a thing that's just they're sure, do it, go for it. But yeah, I'm in my backyard kind of. I eat breakfast back there every day, and then it's become a dream thing of where I just start doing things with the yard. 00:28:16 Speaker 3: What are you having for breakfast? 00:28:18 Speaker 2: So boring? Just a protein bar and some coffee? 00:28:20 Speaker 3: A protein bar? 00:28:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing? 00:28:24 Speaker 3: I'm I mean, I'm moving now. Okay, I've been doing. This is my breakfast for the past like maybe six months. I do like like granola, a little bit of like high fiber cereal, a couple like maybe four or five heaping tablespoons of no sugar plane full fat yogurt. 00:28:44 Speaker 2: Okay, hopefully sheep right. 00:28:46 Speaker 3: Add some dried cranberries in there. Oh, add maybe like a little bit of a pinch of salt, cinnamon, and then I'm probably good there. Maybe a little bit of water because it has the water down. But I want to move into overnight. Oh, it's want to start making the own overnight oats. 00:29:01 Speaker 2: I've tried in the past and they were a disaster. 00:29:03 Speaker 3: How is it a disaster? 00:29:04 Speaker 2: They? I don't think. I don't know if I put in the right ingredients or the right portions, but it just ended up tasting like very bland mush. 00:29:11 Speaker 3: And I got a surprise for you. Wait, you're telling me it tastes like bland mush. 00:29:17 Speaker 2: I was expecting spice. Yeah, fireworks out of oatmeal. 00:29:22 Speaker 3: It tastes like bland mush No. 00:29:24 Speaker 2: But you see these pictures on Instagram and it's like that is that looks like the best thing that's ever been made, the berries, the peanut butter or whatever. And then I make it myself. 00:29:33 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's because you're not adding a bunch of unnecessary. 00:29:38 Speaker 2: Sugar, right, I guess that's it. But I don't like sweet things. You don't, I don't really care, especially in the morning. I would prefer it not to be too sweet. I okay, yeah, So but if you were to make overnight oats, what would you put in yours? 00:29:51 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's given me great, It's given me the best oats. 00:29:53 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:29:54 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be some almond milk probably, maybe some old milk, just a little bit, not too much, right, I'm gonna ground grind some cheese seeds because you can't have the whole chia seeds, right. I'm not looking to evacuate, I'm looking to absorb the nutrients the chia seeds. 00:30:07 Speaker 2: Right, because if you just eat a full chia seed, it just flying through. 00:30:10 Speaker 3: That's just like a little like time traveler, right, it's a little skate pod for the seed. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do some probably some granola, okay, you know, probably like some some berries of some kind. Sure, and definitely I'll top it off with some yogurt one upon serving, maybe some almond butter, maybe some peanut butter. 00:30:31 Speaker 2: Right. See, the problem with all of this is you're introducing a lot of choice, a lot of like having to decide and me in the morning, especially like I cannot operate. 00:30:43 Speaker 3: I fold the opposite eliminates choice because I made it the night before. 00:30:47 Speaker 2: But then the night before I'm panicking, really and I'm wondering, will I actually want to eat this tomorrow? 00:30:54 Speaker 3: You don't want to eat it because I want to eat it so bad. 00:30:56 Speaker 2: Well, at the moment, of course, I want to eat it. In the morning, I might wake up in a different mood. 00:31:00 Speaker 3: Man. 00:31:00 Speaker 2: See, I need something. I'm just like, I know I won't enjoy it that much, but I feel like I. 00:31:05 Speaker 3: Think we're just hitting the nail on the head here. I don't know how you're denying this. It sounds like the perfect thing. 00:31:11 Speaker 2: Maybe I just need to give it more of a show. I tried this also with egg bites. 00:31:14 Speaker 3: You know, making you know, like the guitar buckstyle egg bite. 00:31:17 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to just have like some egg in the morning, but I don't want to have to make the whole thing. But then those were disgusting, Yeah, because you can't make that. 00:31:24 Speaker 3: The eggs are. 00:31:24 Speaker 2: Hard, Eggs are extremely If you fuck up an egg, then it's just revolting. 00:31:29 Speaker 3: And you got to you gotta do stuff. 00:31:30 Speaker 2: Oh, you absolutely have to do something like a cold breakfast. I yeah, I guess unless somebody else has made it for me. Right, Like, I love like a breakfast at a diner. 00:31:38 Speaker 3: Or something, but breakfasted dinner is too good. 00:31:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I can't have that. Can you imagine making all of those elements as well as a diner can make them sick? 00:31:46 Speaker 3: I'll be sick. If I have a breath that kind of breakfast every day, I'll be sick. 00:31:50 Speaker 2: It would take an hour and a half to prepare the breakfast. 00:31:52 Speaker 3: Eat like, oh, eat so much bacon and eggs and toast. Christ on a crutch. You ever had that expression crush? 00:32:00 Speaker 2: Where did that come from? 00:32:02 Speaker 3: Some some like Midwestern Catholic bet on a crutch. I think it's like, oh, oh God, Jesus and marine Joseph Christ on a crutch. You can't have bacon every morning? Oh God, that's too much. 00:32:16 Speaker 2: Is the crutch just because of the alliteration? 00:32:18 Speaker 3: Maybe because yeah, I think it's just the illiteration. 00:32:20 Speaker 2: It's just the because we're not picturing I mean, like now we're just imagining this biblical figure on a crutch, Jesus on a crutch, poor Jesus, Jesus on a jumper, Jesus on a Jesus. 00:32:30 Speaker 3: Maria used to hear that a lot. 00:32:32 Speaker 2: I bet you have a lot of those in the Midwest. 00:32:34 Speaker 3: I mean a little bit. 00:32:35 Speaker 2: I feel like that's probably the birthplace of a lot of that sort of phrase in the South too. Yeah, the South has got a lot of wild sections. Yeah, my boyfriend, I think it's kind of conjured a thing talk the chicken off a bone, which feels like something that's good real, but I don't know that it's actually is that southern? It feels Southern, right, he could talk the chicken off a bone. I feel like I've mentioned this that on this podcast before, and usually people will be like, you know, actually, or tell you immediately or diagnose you with some sort of illness, but no one had heard of this, so but it feels like that feels like it's been around since the beginning of time. Yeah, talk the chicken off a boat. 00:33:11 Speaker 3: You could talk the chicken off a bomb. Sty a wife from jam sty a wife from ham. You want to cape your pockets full, don't talk to him. He can talk the chicken off a bomb. 00:33:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. Your current breakfast is kind of like a dream breakfast for me. Granola and yoga meat. Maybe that's my thing is I just need to get some nice, plain yogurt. I don't like a sweetened yogurt. 00:33:33 Speaker 3: I cannot stand as sweeten yogurt. 00:33:35 Speaker 2: A sweet and slime essentially. Yeah, it's disgusting. 00:33:40 Speaker 3: You remember that part of Toddlers and Tierras from years ago, the girl being like, E, I can smell the hairspry. Yeah, I just conjured that in my head when I went, eh, there's a little girl. They have a swong. This is from fifteen years ago by race right. Little girl and she's got a super thick Southern accent. But there's some internet me that has it slowed down and she's talking about hairspray. I can smell it right now. It's so nasty. That's a sweet and yogurt. 00:34:11 Speaker 2: For me, those little girls were old souls. Yeah, I wonder where they are now. 00:34:16 Speaker 3: God, I don't want to know. That's of those things where it's like it's either bad or worse. 00:34:23 Speaker 2: There's no way that that like went ended up in medical school or better Jail. That's the new TLC show, Yeah, Catching Better Jail. They probably had something in that realm TLC that anytime a TLC thing gets recommended to me, I just think, where did this start from? What evil person had this idea? 00:34:44 Speaker 3: God, we've fallen so far. 00:34:46 Speaker 2: History Channel, Oh, the History Channel TLC. Those things used to be kind of a and e oh my god, are you kid? Arts and Entertainment Bravo used to be like the Opera Channel? 00:34:58 Speaker 3: Was it really? 00:34:58 Speaker 2: You think? 00:34:59 Speaker 3: So everything has just gone to the I mean, not even the dogs. 00:35:03 Speaker 2: Not even give me a break. 00:35:05 Speaker 3: No, this is just gone, like the not even the rats. 00:35:08 Speaker 2: What is it. 00:35:09 Speaker 3: It's gone like those little pill bugs that eat stuff. It's gone to the roaches. 00:35:16 Speaker 2: A restaurant in my neighborhood recently got shut down for rodents and place I had eaten that probably once every six weeks at least, and that was a terrible feeling. But rodents are taking over La. There's a rat problem. No way, rats everywhere? I don't know, true according to. 00:35:31 Speaker 3: Me, Okay, I wasn't sure that's what I was asking because perception, you know. 00:35:34 Speaker 2: But I've seen a lot of rats in the last couple of years, way more than I have in the last you know, I've lived here for almost sixteen years. 00:35:41 Speaker 3: That makes sense though, because that's sort of like the one of those things where that's an indicator species. 00:35:47 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, that's that's right today. What are the other indicators? I guess I can go the other direction too, where an indicator species can be like a high end dog. When those start showing up in your neighborhood, it's gentrification sort of thing. 00:36:02 Speaker 3: So it's the indicator species act is an actual term that I used wrong. 00:36:06 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, So what else could it mean? Then? 00:36:08 Speaker 3: I think it's indicator species. I'm gonna say it wrong, but it has to do with something with like population decline, like in terms of like certain species show up when they there's more of them. 00:36:20 Speaker 2: I don't fuck, but it kind of like it feels like you've used it in a proper ish way. 00:36:26 Speaker 3: I have a good friend who's in a who's a biologist, so he probably said it. 00:36:30 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, yeah, I might use that, but they like probably in the correct sense. It's more just to do with actual ecosystems, yeah, and how they affect each other some. 00:36:40 Speaker 3: But we're hardcore in the Holocene now, right, I'm not sorry. 00:36:43 Speaker 2: The anthroposyne No, I'm not familiar. 00:36:46 Speaker 3: The anthroposcene is a term that I'm pretty sure. It's like, we're definitely in it now, okay, Like instead of the whatever the previous era was, we're now in the anthroposyne, which means that we're in the era that is so significantly in influenced by many that we are. It's a different thing completely. It's considered a different uh you know how there's like the Holocene and there's like. 00:37:12 Speaker 2: That there eras where like nature or animals also had some level of impact on what we were going on. 00:37:19 Speaker 3: Those are huge, massive long eras where this is one the this type of the the saber to tiger existed in this era, right, So we're out of that a right now. But now we're in this era called anthroposy, which means that humans have so significantly impacted their environment that it's caused us to Scientists to definitively describe the era as being different than the previous. 00:37:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder that must have been in the last hundred years. 00:37:49 Speaker 3: I think it's pretty even more recently. And this is not like a debate thing, and this is something where like all all scientists agree that that this is very much the case and so. 00:38:00 Speaker 2: And then I can't imagine what the next era could even possibly be. We're going to be in this for a while, right until we've were our own undoing. 00:38:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, until it's like just jellyfish, just jellyfish, and maybe like god knows what else on the land. 00:38:15 Speaker 2: Anthropos the anthroposy fast, I mean terrifying. 00:38:18 Speaker 3: It's terrifying, but it's also kind of that thing where it's like, I take what's it called when you take it makes something you feel good about? No, I can't think of I can't think of any words today. But you know, I feel like, well, we're all in this now. It's it's unchangeable, right, We're just in this. We're in a different era because like this idea where people talk about plants being invasive, right right, you know how there's the person you know sometimes it's me, But I pulled back from that because everything we're surrounded by invasive species, surrounded by non natives. Yes, they're just proliferate everywhere. And so it's kind of like this thing now where like I was arguing with someone about asthma, so someone is saying that the jasmin's and bloom, now like, well, it's not. Actually you're smelling something else unless you have some sort of weird microclimate. You're not smelling jasmine right now, right, just smelling citrus bossoms, which smell incredible. You're smelling a different thing that looks like Jasmine's not technically whatever the scientific name for jasmine, which is this crazy hard to repeat name, because jasmine's non native. 00:39:21 Speaker 2: Right. 00:39:21 Speaker 3: So that's this thing where we're all habituated to think something is normal because it's been around for I don't know one hundred years. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: Who is currently a live lifetime Yeah. 00:39:32 Speaker 3: They understand that says oh, this is just how it is, when technically that is not a normal thing at all, right, But we're just so habituated to it that we think it's like, oh, this is this is normal, when actually it's fully not at. 00:39:46 Speaker 2: All, right, And so you're saying this with the anthroposy and you're saying, well, I'm just going to embrace it. 00:39:52 Speaker 3: You know, we're in it. 00:39:54 Speaker 2: There's no one doing it. How do we make the best of this situation? 00:39:57 Speaker 3: Exactly? It's over kind of thing, right, Like did you see this thing about this is so stupid? But I found out, Uh, there's a book a woman wrote. I have to read it, but it's about ice. Not about the the goon squad, I know, but about literally about. 00:40:12 Speaker 2: Ice, right frozen water. 00:40:14 Speaker 3: And it just blew my mind because you realize that all human life in the world, pretty much in any type of like even mildly first world setting, has been radically changed since we have the ability to refrigerate things, oh get ice. Yeah, I'm sure it's like completely different. 00:40:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean the things that that allows, like from like science to like luxury things. 00:40:40 Speaker 3: It's so different. Like the life lifestyle we have has been everything for before ice was everywhere you went was different because we don't have any ice. 00:40:55 Speaker 2: You know, the idea of like there being a period when like there was just it was literally impossible to be out in the desert area and there is just how would you have eyes? 00:41:04 Speaker 3: What you got is what you got. 00:41:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the things you're dealing with, and if you want to preserve something, it's got to be. 00:41:09 Speaker 3: Insult Yeah, and now that is everywhere. 00:41:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's probably one of the biggest things that like on the same level of fire. 00:41:18 Speaker 3: It's huge. It's so huge where I'm seeing this. I gotta read the book because it's just called ice, right, But you know, like it made me feel like an idiot, right because I'm thinking, Oh, all this time, I haven't realized that that so many things in our life are just they're completely and totally influenced by refrigeration. We would be living completely different lives. 00:41:42 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Absolutely, yeah, I mean we wouldn't have any sort of medication. 00:41:47 Speaker 3: There's everything would be so much more localized, like the way you do it over there. Oh, that's how they do it, because you know they got it's cold then. 00:41:57 Speaker 2: Right ice. Oh that's very nice thing. I'm curious about that. 00:42:01 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:42:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, tough time for that book title. 00:42:03 Speaker 3: But oh my god, the worst yeah, the worst. 00:42:08 Speaker 2: Is there anything left to say about this? Saw? 00:42:11 Speaker 3: I mean, oh, I check it out. If you push down that button and push it the other direction, like you're not going to fold it, so push. 00:42:20 Speaker 2: Here you do it because I'm scared. 00:42:22 Speaker 3: So watch this. You can do like an undercut. 00:42:26 Speaker 2: Oh that's great, cool. Wow, what a piece of engineering. 00:42:29 Speaker 3: I know these Danish or maybe Swedes, who knows, they've been making this stuff like over one hundred years. Oh at least, right, it's probably cut some ice with this, yeah, and sell it to people in the tropics. 00:42:42 Speaker 2: Have you been ever been to Antarctica? 00:42:45 Speaker 3: No? 00:42:45 Speaker 2: Okay, that feels like a place that you would travel. 00:42:48 Speaker 3: I was obsessed with it for a long time because there's this great book called Big Dead Place by Nicholas Johnson. 00:42:55 Speaker 2: I was. 00:42:56 Speaker 3: I communicated with him a couple of times. Okay, he's not alive anymore, sure, but I mean this book is one of the funniest things I've ever read my entire life. Huh, Big Dead Place, Big dead Places all about uh an Arctica, because there is myth by Antarctica. 00:43:09 Speaker 2: That's all scientists, right, sure? 00:43:12 Speaker 3: Four to five people there are like support workers like dishwasher of course, truck driver just like you know, labor person. 00:43:21 Speaker 2: That are kind of keeping it all up for the other people. 00:43:24 Speaker 3: And an Arctica for the most part is run by Raytheon, oh, which is a defense contract right right, so our PSCTHON Polar Services. 00:43:33 Speaker 2: It's kind of eerie, it. 00:43:34 Speaker 3: Is, and it's so just wrought with bureaucracy in a way that is comical. 00:43:40 Speaker 2: How many people do you think are currently living in Antarctica? So it's got to be an extremely small population. 00:43:47 Speaker 3: During the winter, it's pretty small, but I think the summer it booms significantly. Huh. Yeah. 00:43:53 Speaker 2: I wonder what the social scene feels like. 00:43:56 Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of drinking, yeah, and like a lot of people having sex with someone who they don't care what they look like. 00:44:05 Speaker 4: Right. 00:44:05 Speaker 2: This is very Love Island. Very This feels like the reality. 00:44:09 Speaker 3: I think it would be the reality show that people wouldn't want to watch it, Like imagine being like miser it's full darkness for about five or six months. Yeah, colly dark. 00:44:18 Speaker 2: Have you been to a place where the day night cycles like that? Like been in Alaska during the summer or anything? I want so crazy? It was in Alaska during the summer once. And what an unsettling feeling for it to be like four or like two am it's still like it's noon. Your body doesn't know what to do with it. So yeah, very and for it to be completely dark I don't know if i'd be able to handle it. 00:44:40 Speaker 3: How long were you there for? 00:44:41 Speaker 2: Just like a week, and so it was like my dad had it was a business trip. My brother and I went along and kind of we fished and then we like saw Fast Fish Furious in the movie theater. 00:44:53 Speaker 3: That's a cool I love seeing a movie in a place, you know what I mean. 00:44:56 Speaker 2: It's a great like it's a kind of a waste of a vacation or try, but it is an interesting feeling. It's like because it's such a such a thing you associate with doing well at home. 00:45:05 Speaker 3: It's also like you go to I always go to McDonald's. I'm in a foreign country. 00:45:09 Speaker 2: Oh that will really give you a taste of the little you just check out, like how they doing it here? 00:45:13 Speaker 3: Right? Right? 00:45:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'd like to be in a movie theater in a foreign place. I don't know, especially in Alaska that's not quite a movie town. But to see Fast and the Furious and then go like deep sea fishing and be throwing up on a boat. Did you catch I caught nothing because I was so sea sick. It was me, my dad and brother and then a grandmother and her granddaughter who was pregnant, so the granddaughter who was pregnant. I were just throwing up the whole time, damn. And then my father and brother were fishing, so I didn't get to catch anything. But did they catch anything? Yeah, I think they did halibin. 00:45:43 Speaker 3: I think, okay, yeah, they get it smoked. 00:45:46 Speaker 2: No, I think we just I think it was sent home. This is a long time ago frozen, okay. But we then we did some fishing that was not deep sea fishing and caught salmon. 00:45:56 Speaker 3: I think. Nice. 00:45:57 Speaker 2: But we were like fishing and you could see bears. It was incredible. It's not really like a thing that I would ever seek out, you know, it's exactly my thing, but I I mean, it was wonderful, fascinating. We also lived in like an airbnb, wasn't It was a what do we used to call those? Just a rental, a rented house. It was like a rented basement of a woman who we think may have been spying on us with a like a cyber camera. 00:46:21 Speaker 3: She's got what else is she going to do? 00:46:23 Speaker 2: Truly, at those endless nights, why did you think that, Because this was so long ago that my brother had to he was he was like an early eBay person and he was selling something. He was like fifteen at the time, but was selling something on eBay and had to borrow her computer I think, to use eBay and then saw her Internet history and there was like hidden shower cameras that she had been searching for. 00:46:48 Speaker 3: Ooh, that's fuck, that's against the law. 00:46:50 Speaker 2: Maybe not at the time, maybe I don't know, wow, but yeah, that was And we found out that her screen name was Lusty Lady Linda. 00:47:00 Speaker 3: Linda's got a second life. 00:47:01 Speaker 2: Huh, she might have footage of me, damn, who knows. But that was a fun thing to discover while like being in somebody's rented basement weird vacation. 00:47:12 Speaker 3: That sounds fun though that again, I feel like it's maybe you know, we're not doing that anymore now. I was like, you hit the code to check in company running it. 00:47:22 Speaker 2: You're not meeting the people who are spye on you. 00:47:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you meet me, I'll because I'll let you. 00:47:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll let you do whatever you want with me, take care of it, do whatever you want. But if you're in some office for no. 00:47:35 Speaker 3: I'm sick of it all. 00:47:37 Speaker 2: I feel like you're a do fish. I have but I'm not like an outdoorsy person. 00:47:42 Speaker 3: I'm a very outdoorsy person, but I'm not like a I wouldn't say I'm like a big. 00:47:45 Speaker 2: Fishing Okay, you're more like hiking camping. 00:47:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I love fishing. I don't like eating a lot of fish. 00:47:51 Speaker 2: Oh okay, but I mean I just. 00:47:53 Speaker 3: Love the I don't know, I like all that stuff. Anything outdoors. I'm men do it on some level. I'm not like a really good at being out there for a long time. 00:48:04 Speaker 2: What's the longest you've been out for? 00:48:06 Speaker 3: Probably like me, four nights off in the back country. 00:48:10 Speaker 2: Okay, so like a big hike. 00:48:12 Speaker 3: Yeah. Every summer I go with some friends up to Yosemite area. 00:48:16 Speaker 2: Oh beautiful. 00:48:17 Speaker 3: Do about a week up. 00:48:17 Speaker 2: There, Okay. I've been wanting to go up there for a very long time. 00:48:20 Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of the most incredible places in the world. 00:48:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. Any image you see of it, it's like this is, yeah, just absolutely stunning. 00:48:28 Speaker 3: There's a reason all these people come from different countries to see. 00:48:31 Speaker 2: That, right. 00:48:31 Speaker 3: They don't have that shit. 00:48:33 Speaker 2: They do not have it. Their garbage, the things that. 00:48:36 Speaker 3: Come you know. That's the thing about the national parks. It's one of those things where I'm kind of like a zealot for America in that sense where. 00:48:44 Speaker 2: It's kind of like these jewels that America happens to have that are protected for now, and other countries they don't. Well, I mean other countries I think are just beautiful naturally and they just get to continue being natural. I guess you have to protect them. Yeah, if there's not the space, Yeah, we have. 00:49:02 Speaker 3: Stuff that they just we just don't. They don't have the same. It's just different and the variety, the variety, everything about it is bigger, right, it's Yeah. 00:49:13 Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite National Park? 00:49:15 Speaker 3: Uh, definitely a SMI. But it's one I've been to so many times. It's so big and there's so many places you can go to that are like if you want Ansel Adams Wilderness, Oh, it's next to Yosemite. You go through there, and you feel like this is a fucking dream or something. Wow, you feel like you're in some sort of AI constructed a set, right because you're pop there's a little rolling hills with all this granite boulders and uh, little pools that are green, blue. 00:49:47 Speaker 1: And right. 00:49:48 Speaker 2: This is something that it's just uh, for whatever reason, my brain takes issue with whenever somebody says this looks like another planet or this looks like AI. I think, no, this is just beautiful Earth. 00:49:58 Speaker 3: It's just this. 00:50:00 Speaker 2: I'm just like, but it is just like this is amazing. This isn't right. 00:50:03 Speaker 3: That's because it's we see the simulacrum before we see the reality, right, Right. So it's like it's like when people go to Disneyland and the people go to Paris and they're like, it's just like Disneyland. It's like it's the other way around, so fun. But it's just how it is because we've been we don't see still, we see the fake before we see the real. 00:50:23 Speaker 2: Right, it's so much easier to access artificial things for the most real you. 00:50:27 Speaker 3: Just kind of it feels fake because it's so pristine. 00:50:33 Speaker 2: Right. That's like growing up in Utah. That's a lot of that sort of thing where it's like it feels like we're on Mars and it's like, well, no, it's just this is what. 00:50:39 Speaker 3: Earth looks like. But Utah non Utah is just stunning. 00:50:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Utah is very beautiful and then a lot of it is very beige. Yeah, but the beautiful parts are gorgeous. Well, I'm thrilled, Like the practicality you're lending to my life is really impressive. 00:50:54 Speaker 3: That's my goal. 00:50:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're also putting tree cutters out of business. 00:50:59 Speaker 3: I think they're they're still okay. 00:51:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess like there are parts of these trees that are too high up for me. 00:51:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have one of those, and I just hired some tree cutters, right I had. 00:51:09 Speaker 2: I got a little irresponsible and didn't trim the tree and it fully collapsed in the wind. What that was? I mean, it was kind of impressive to see, not sure what sort of tree, and it was big enough that most of it's still alive, but one fold like trunk collapsed in my yard and was just blocking the entire yard. It was fun to look at. 00:51:27 Speaker 3: Was in it conifer? Deciduous? Oh? 00:51:30 Speaker 2: If I have no idea? 00:51:31 Speaker 3: Was it pine pine type? 00:51:32 Speaker 1: No? 00:51:33 Speaker 2: Not pine type? Yeah, So you know, I wish I had any not an oak, because the branches or the trunks are maybe this big around again. 00:51:42 Speaker 3: They go up in three with a flower. 00:51:45 Speaker 2: No, okay, still mostly alive, but I'll be able to do some light trimming some time, pruning. I think we should play a game. 00:51:56 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm ready. 00:51:56 Speaker 2: Oh we're going to play Gift or a Curse. But I need to number between one and ten from you five. Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want. 00:52:09 Speaker 3: Please continue to watch Fallout on Amazon Prime. Enjoy it all episodes are available, and then prep yourself to go to the theater and see Mermaid when it comes out on April eighth and most draft house cinemas across the country. Mermaid written directed by Tyler Kornack, starring Johnny Pemberton. 00:52:32 Speaker 2: I'm so excited for Mermaid, me too. You've posted a little bit about it, but yeah, it seems to already be very well received. 00:52:38 Speaker 3: And yeah, we had a great time at south By last year. 00:52:42 Speaker 2: What is the movie about? 00:52:44 Speaker 3: It is about a loser guy named Doug who's played by me, and he finds a mermaid. But it's not like a beautiful mermaid. 00:52:51 Speaker 2: This is a creature, right, It's something that lives in the ocean. 00:52:55 Speaker 3: Yes, but it is a mermaid. It's an exotic it's an exotic creature. So he falls in love with it. In a sense and all this madness ensues. 00:53:07 Speaker 2: And people are going gaga over Fallout. 00:53:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's it's such a big thing and it's been around for so long that right, But it's. 00:53:15 Speaker 2: Like kind of crossed over in a way where it was like a big video game and it it's like a big everything. 00:53:20 Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess it's just because they did such a great job with the show. 00:53:23 Speaker 2: You know, it's good casting. 00:53:26 Speaker 3: I think the best. Yeah, I'm I'm biased, but I would say some of the probably one of the best cast. 00:53:33 Speaker 2: I really believe that. Yeah, not interesting to get LORI Metcalf over there, Oh my. 00:53:37 Speaker 3: God, I would be I'd have to prep myself significantly to be able to speak with her without that would yeah. 00:53:45 Speaker 2: Fe oh she's the absolute best. Okay, this is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong because I got correct answers right. These are all from Patreon listeners today. This first one is from Christiane Gift. You're a curse. Podcasters who routinely talk through a burp. 00:54:05 Speaker 3: Ooh that's a curse. Why because it's someone who is they just can't take the time to realize that they'll get back the time. 00:54:20 Speaker 2: This correct, I mean correct. This is a total curse for me. Anytime somebody brings up the word podcast on this podcast, I think, are they talking about me? But I can't imagine I've done that before? Have I talked? 00:54:31 Speaker 3: I don't think you have. 00:54:32 Speaker 2: What does that even look like? 00:54:33 Speaker 3: I may have done it today? 00:54:35 Speaker 2: What does that really like practically speaking? Is are they like here? It is? 00:54:40 Speaker 3: So the thing about these weapons is people are just always finding them on the streets. And that's. 00:54:48 Speaker 2: Listener, if I've ever done that, I'm sorry that feels What I was imagining is like as a kid, you've been like the gross kid being like I'll do the ABC's as a burp. 00:54:57 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I forgot that that was such a thing, that was the real thing. For a while, I wanted so badly to be that guy. 00:55:04 Speaker 2: Seems so dangerous to me. Okay, so this is more of a like you're just hearing them like process a bodily something while talking, rather than just stepping back for a second. Well, I think that's a curse, and I'm sorry that if I've ever done it, and if Christina's kind of passively aggressively passive aggressively coming after me, I apologize. Okay, you've gotten one right so far. Nexus is from Caroline or Caroline, I don't know. Gift or a curse. Retired ambulances repurposed as plumbing work trucks. 00:55:39 Speaker 3: I don't know that was even a thing. I'd say gift why. I just think anything repurposed is great, correct? 00:55:48 Speaker 1: I love? 00:55:49 Speaker 2: I love, especially a repurposed truck, because trucks come in all sorts of shapes and fun sizes. A repurpose like postal truck or ice cream truck. Those aren't typical vehicles you're seeing other than their exact use. So then when it's a plumbing truck, has anybody ever done a fire truck other than yeah, what use will that be other than looking like a long rectangle? 00:56:17 Speaker 3: Right? 00:56:17 Speaker 2: And the gas the gas on those things. 00:56:20 Speaker 3: Probably diesel, that's gonna be. That's a big bill. 00:56:23 Speaker 2: This is something I don't understand. When fire people go out to lunch with each other and take the fire truck. 00:56:29 Speaker 3: They do. 00:56:30 Speaker 2: Yes, So we were seeing this, So pull up in front of like a savage place. It's like, wait, doesn't send me you're coming from or to a job? Is so they just have it ready. 00:56:37 Speaker 3: I think it's so they get the discount, but they've already got the costume on just and every every bit helps. If I were a fire guy, I'll be doing that, you know what I mean? Are there fire ladies? 00:56:52 Speaker 2: There have to be. 00:56:53 Speaker 3: I mean I think that there have to be. 00:56:55 Speaker 2: But I just I have never uh well, I've never been rescued from a fire. First of all, I've never been god knock on wood, I'll never I haven't been dragged from a burning home or anything. But I've never interacted with a fire woman. 00:57:10 Speaker 3: Right, I haven't either. I'm just thinking, you know. 00:57:13 Speaker 2: I'm sure there are ill becaussive times the living scenario. I guess. I don't know. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't want to discount that. I'm sure there are. But it's just I think it is a very male dominated. 00:57:28 Speaker 3: I think it's very dominated. But I wonder, I wonder. 00:57:33 Speaker 2: Now it's got me wondering. Yeah. 00:57:35 Speaker 3: Also, sometimes there's that thing maybe where you know certain industries. It's not like you can try to to make that happen. But it just nobody wants to do. 00:57:45 Speaker 2: It, right. The guys of the down of the station just refuse. 00:57:49 Speaker 3: Well, not even that, it's like there's just we can't find any women who want to do it. 00:57:52 Speaker 2: Oh right, it's just like, well the door is open. Yeah. Yeah, but they're they're driving those trucks that out to the you know, sandwich place, and the gas I mean they're blowing through gas. They must be diesel. It's got to be diesel, right, yeah, not that that matters, but maybe slightly cheaper. I've never seen one filling out of Maybe they have it at. 00:58:13 Speaker 3: The station at the station. 00:58:15 Speaker 2: Interesting. There are a lot of things about how a fire station works that I'm not familiar with. 00:58:19 Speaker 3: It's become a very much nine year old boy on the Spectrum conversation. We need to correct us. 00:58:28 Speaker 2: Did you ever you had that show where you drove big vehicles around? 00:58:31 Speaker 3: Oh my god, forever ago? Yeah? 00:58:32 Speaker 2: Did you ever drive a fire fire truck? 00:58:34 Speaker 3: I did? 00:58:35 Speaker 2: You did? 00:58:37 Speaker 3: And Salt Lake too? 00:58:38 Speaker 2: Really? 00:58:39 Speaker 3: Yeah it was an airport fire truck. 00:58:40 Speaker 2: Okay, how far did you drive it? 00:58:43 Speaker 3: God? Not very far, just kind of around the like the area where they have simulated fires. 00:58:50 Speaker 2: Okay, what's it hard to drive. I don't remember how did that show even come into being. 00:58:56 Speaker 3: It came into being. This was back when MTV was was doing stuff like that, and they had someone create it and they just needed someone to host. Yeah, they auditioned me. They flew me out to Jersey to audition and like the middle of winter against other people, other people they were auditioning, right, with a test, like a. 00:59:17 Speaker 2: Camera testing And did you have to drive for the test? 00:59:19 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:59:20 Speaker 3: I drove like a semi in a lot with like some some dude. I think it's Portuguese. God, I can rarely remember this, but I definitely had like a test. That's fast they got and that was enough to make the pilot shot the pilot and it got picked up right, and they had a different guy come on as showrunner for the show. Okay, it was a whole thing. It was like a lot of work. 00:59:40 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a I mean that the logistics of that seem very complicated to me, putting someone who doesn't drive these things that usually require a license to drive them. Was there any not to just suddenly dive into you driving the car show? But was there any car that was particularly scary to drive? 00:59:57 Speaker 3: All of them. They were all I think back, and I cannot believe I didn't come close to dyet. Of course, I was riding in some motorcycle that was like a like uh it was maybe twenty times the size of a regular motorcycle for what purpose? Because it was some guy, some wacko dude. 01:00:14 Speaker 2: It was like a novelty cycle. 01:00:16 Speaker 3: Novelty. This thing was not rated by any authority, and we drove over stuff. The fact that it didn't tip over, I would have broken all of my ribs, one hundred percent would have I was like a metal cage, would have broken all my ribs. We drove these these dolphins that were barely tested. It all dolphins, like a dolphin like sort of like a she had like a like a seaday. It was in the dolphin shape and you were encapsulated in it. The fact that I didn't drown in a lake in Oregon go underwater, yeah, just a little bit. 01:00:52 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 01:00:53 Speaker 3: And it was the most deeply unsafe thing. 01:00:57 Speaker 2: While you were doing it. Were you enjoying it or you just being like theocusing on, I don't want to die while doing that. 01:01:02 Speaker 3: I loved it, but I used to always acknowledge I had a thing where I'd always imagine how I would die, thinking that if you are prepared for dying in a certain way, the angel of death doesn't want to kill you that way because the angel of death wants to surprise you. 01:01:17 Speaker 2: It's no fun for the angel of death. 01:01:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, because angel death wants to be like if you can see it coming, it's like a mountain lion. Mountain lion never attacks you had on Oh I didn't know that. They pretty much never do because they're ambush predators. I think that death is the same way. 01:01:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes perfect sense. 01:01:33 Speaker 3: So I would constantly imagine how I would die in hopes that I wouldn't die that way. And the older I get, the more I'm like, I cannot believe how legal department signed off on any of this. 01:01:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially the more you know about how TV gets made and how little they'll that you do anything. 01:01:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just so incredibly I think I was also just really cautious, like I was looking out for myself all the time. 01:01:56 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, you probably had to, especially on like kind of a reality show where right, they probably want someone to die on camera. 01:02:02 Speaker 3: I mean often I want someone to die, but injury would have been cool. 01:02:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been exciting for them, for sure. 01:02:07 Speaker 3: I did vomit in a plane spectacularly, in a stunt plane, Like I mean, I sprayed vomit. And as much as they that much as the pilot hated that, the producers were. 01:02:18 Speaker 2: Like, of course, yeah, they would do that every episode if they could. Yes, that's a show where you throw up on a different vehicle every God, that's a sequel show. 01:02:27 Speaker 3: Yeah it was Manus. 01:02:28 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that's a fun memory to think of it. 01:02:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Manus. 01:02:31 Speaker 2: I don't know if we've ever talked about this, but I think you were in the like the first stand up show I ever saw in La. You were on the lineup. Where was it? It was in that weird little western thing on Gower Gower Gulch. 01:02:44 Speaker 3: I think, okay, I think I know you're talking about it. 01:02:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up, Tiger Lily? Maybe as what I was, that's it. I think that was the first, and I remember it being like the longest stand up show I have ever. 01:02:54 Speaker 3: Seen, probably like fifteen comedians. 01:02:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was truly like three and a half hours. 01:02:58 Speaker 3: I remember that shit. 01:02:59 Speaker 2: But I remember you were like the one person and I was like this person's very funny and the rest of this is agony. Yes, that's a very early memory too. 01:03:06 Speaker 3: That's good. 01:03:07 Speaker 2: Okay, well now we've gotten very off course, but I think you've gotten two right so far. Finally, this is from Stephanie Gift to a curse. A stuffed animal affixed to a semi truck. 01:03:17 Speaker 3: That's a curse. Why it's gonna get out? Get out? 01:03:21 Speaker 2: Dirty? 01:03:22 Speaker 3: I think it's so dirty. It's one of those things where you can't tell what's going on. Is this like a is this a person a hard person showing their soft side? Or is this a person who's so hard You're like, this is what I do with the stuffed animal. I don't like that? 01:03:39 Speaker 2: Correct, you win the game? This to me, any adult interacting with a stuffed animal or plush, it's immediately like the madded gross fur. There's something dirty about it. There's something like something's wrong here, especially those they're out in the weather. They're filthy. It's just like, this is dangerous. There's an element of this person that I can't trust. Ever, and why did they go out of their way to attach this to the thing? What are they trying to prove? 01:04:06 Speaker 3: The only excuse is if their child was lost, just all they have. But even then you wouldn't have fixed it to the back of your truck. 01:04:14 Speaker 2: That feels like the worst possible play. 01:04:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, because usually you can find the stuffed animals, like this is where Abigail was murdered, and we found her. There's her stuffy and that happens all the time. This is the classic case of for forensic files. 01:04:29 Speaker 2: Now, if that happens, get the tattoo. 01:04:30 Speaker 4: When Abigail McIntyre m why would I say McIntyre the first time anyone ever said, McIntyre said of McIntyre, mcre mckintyre. 01:04:41 Speaker 3: My brain just did some weird thing where it's like, yees say it that way. 01:04:45 Speaker 2: Where you can't even picture what the last. 01:04:47 Speaker 3: You freaking idiot say it mckintyre. Jesus, how do they do that? 01:04:54 Speaker 2: That's g in it? Yeah, McIntyre, mckent, mcmacintyre, McIntyre. 01:05:01 Speaker 3: Young Abigail McIntyre, I was lost for forty days. Her parents found her stuffed animal. 01:05:10 Speaker 2: Well you won the game. Good for you know what to say? Will you help me answer a listener question? I will, Okay, people are writing into I said no gifts at Gmail dot com or they're sending voice notes that have to common sense, record them in a quiet place, don't make them too long, that sort of thing. Okay, this one is a written email. It says, Hello, Bridger and guest, I need some advice about something that happened over a decade ago. When my husband and I first got married, we lived with my in laws for a couple of years while saving to buy our own place. For that first Christmas, we bought them a Soda Stream soda maker. Soda Stream Soda Maker. It was really expensive for us at the time, but my father in law was addicted to diet coke, so we thought he'd like it. Fast forward a year later and we were trying to decide what to get them for Christmas again. While searching for Christmas decorations in their garage, we saw the maker with the gift receipt still attached to the top. We were still so poor and they hadn't used the gift, so we did the unthinkable. We returned the Soda Stream Maker to buy them a new gift for that Christmas. A couple months after Christmas, my mother in law brought up the maker and we actively helped her to look for it. To this day, she brings it up about once a year, wondering where it went. Has it been long enough that we tell her the truth or will we go to hell? EXO, very guilty daughter in law thirteen years after the fact. This is interesting. 01:06:31 Speaker 3: That's guilty. That's very guilty, daughter in law. I'm going to hell. We're all I'm going to hell. Baby, Damn. 01:06:42 Speaker 2: Wow, what the hell stands a chance? 01:06:46 Speaker 3: Geez, she thought about it. I can't imagine having enough space and your conscience for something like that. 01:06:54 Speaker 2: To just continually keep you up at night for thirteen years for that. No, I'm moving on. 01:07:00 Speaker 1: Man. 01:07:00 Speaker 3: That's a good That's must be a nice family to. 01:07:03 Speaker 2: Me in that situation, I'm thinking mother in law is going to hell. I'm fine. 01:07:06 Speaker 3: That is not a person who is in the entertainment industry. 01:07:10 Speaker 2: This person could not cut it now. 01:07:13 Speaker 3: That person has too loved, way too loved to abuse themselves on a daily basis by working in the most rotten industry that's ever existed. 01:07:23 Speaker 2: This person has thought about another person enough to email about them. 01:07:27 Speaker 3: There are like professional hangmen who have less going on. 01:07:33 Speaker 2: I totally support this. Yeah, I think it was just being wasted in the garage. They were trying to send you a sign. 01:07:39 Speaker 3: I want to know what's up with this mother in law? What is she thinking? 01:07:42 Speaker 2: Why is she still thinking about this thing she's wear with this thing that's probably fifty dollars. Go buy one, you psycho. 01:07:48 Speaker 3: Have a good laugh about that. It's over Christmas morning. You had some coffee, maybe you've had an early toddy. 01:07:56 Speaker 2: Everyone's so drunk. 01:07:58 Speaker 3: They're not This is not a drinking family. I feel like. 01:08:02 Speaker 2: I feel like I mean me in this situation. If I feel that guilty, I'm going to buy a new one and putting it back and then being like, oh, let's go look one more time thirteen years after. Oh, there it is. I have such fools. 01:08:14 Speaker 3: I have zero guilt with that kind of stuff. Like I would be like, oh, I can't even imagine the situation that I would even remain un set, Like it'll be instantaneous. It'd be like the second I find it, But why the hell is this? You haven't used it? We bought this for you. 01:08:33 Speaker 2: Don't you know what we're going through. 01:08:34 Speaker 3: I don't understand people who have that thing with their family where they're so like like kid gloves it's your family, you say it right away. 01:08:43 Speaker 2: Oh, you're not in my family. 01:08:45 Speaker 3: Oh, I can't imagine that. 01:08:46 Speaker 2: A lot of communication issues in the Wyneger family. Wow, a lot of like just keeping it to yourself as long as possible. You have a very open family. 01:08:54 Speaker 3: I guess. 01:08:55 Speaker 2: But it's a healthy thing to do. 01:08:57 Speaker 3: It's good and bad though, like the whole thing when people are oh, I don't want to I don't know if I want to do this because my dad will not be happy. It's like, who gives a shit what they think? That's healthy, I guess, but it's also kind of like, well, they're so fucked up they won't go to therapy, so who gives us shit what they say? These these are crazy people who are like lying about all kinds of stuff, manipulating, Like I don't care what they think. 01:09:27 Speaker 2: That's such a good way to look at things. 01:09:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, but my family they're so messed up, like my parents, like they're they're just so deeply you know what I mean. They're so mired in all kinds of old bullshit that like, how could you possibly give a shit what they think about anything that you're doing. They're like a different century. 01:09:47 Speaker 2: You know, like they care's a different way of thinking. 01:09:51 Speaker 3: They're like from a time when when you go to a hotel, you'd leave the hotel because you have to You can't be there for turn down. You have to go out for dinner and you you know what I mean, like all these like what. 01:10:00 Speaker 2: Is operating your life? What sort of rules are you playing? 01:10:03 Speaker 3: Sadly, I think this ancient thing. 01:10:05 Speaker 2: Wait, we don't do that anymore. 01:10:07 Speaker 3: They're operating by pre ice rules back when, like you know, you weren't able to provide yourself your own drink cold drink. Ugh, I just can't understand. That drives me crazy. 01:10:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, this person's I mean, they should have let them know. And if not by now, I think Steph have a laugh also, or maybe just reverse the guilt at this point and say, didn't you know what we were going through. We scrimped and saved for you and then you just kept that thing in the garage. You could have been having unlimited diet coke on us and meanwhile at home we're splitting a can. 01:10:43 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:10:43 Speaker 3: Also, you can't manufacture diet coke no, I mean that's the big thing that we can't make a fake the soda stream can't possibly yeah, you can't phenal kinectronics in there. Whatever. That stuff's called, the stuff that's all killing us greedy. Yeah, what is it called. 01:11:00 Speaker 2: It's a word that I think that on purpose they kind of said, don't let anyone be able to pronounce this, otherwise they'll be able to talk about it. 01:11:06 Speaker 3: It's definitely the thing causing I. 01:11:08 Speaker 2: Mean just probably everything, and I just kind of give handed myself a lot of it. Unfortunately not as much as because you know, growing up Mormon didn't drink coffee, so once coffee came into the situation, that kind of made up a lot of my caffeine consumption. But I still drink a decent amount of diet coke and I've kind of just said to myself, you know what whatever, anthroposcene, anthroposne. Yeah, it's the exact thing. 01:11:33 Speaker 3: It's just I drink it when I'm having a rough time on set. You need some caffeine, I go to the diet coke because it's the keems. 01:11:41 Speaker 2: Oh you think it's the chems that are helping. 01:11:42 Speaker 3: I think it's the chemicals in concert with the caffeine somehow that is like the thing that helps you pull through. It's a different type of stimulation. 01:11:53 Speaker 2: I get it is a different It's certainly more than coffee, because I can't drink coffee at night night, but I can drink diet coke. 01:12:00 Speaker 3: Really die coke will fucking rit me open if. 01:12:05 Speaker 2: Well, this guilty daughter in law, I think should just continue living in guilt until she goes to hell and just waste her life. 01:12:13 Speaker 3: I can't believe that the shame involved in it's just nothing. The fact that that registers what a nice person I know, sweet, what a nice person? Gosh. 01:12:27 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, thirteen years have no soda stream for anybody in years. I feel like there were a lot of answers this whole time, and she waits for a podcast to come along to finally get her answer. She's got to get a control of her family and herself. I don't know what to say, Steph, Well, I have another useful item from you. 01:12:48 Speaker 1: This is uh. 01:12:49 Speaker 2: I'll just keep asking you on every couple of years until my life is fixed, and then we'll end to the podcast. 01:12:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:12:55 Speaker 2: I don't know what else I could do with myself. I already got an eyelash on here. No nuts, it's probably a dog here and it was part of the Fiskers brand. 01:13:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Fisker Whisker. 01:13:07 Speaker 2: That trademark Fisker Whisker. Well, thank you for being here, thank you for having me. 01:13:11 Speaker 3: It was a wonderful time listener. 01:13:13 Speaker 2: I always enjoy listener. The podcast is over. We're pulling the over lever. It's done. Move get doing something else. I love you, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Coottner. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts? Did you hear? 01:13:58 Speaker 1: Funamin Missille? Perfectly clear? But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty And I said, no, guess, your own presence is presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me