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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm pretcher winnegar. What's

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Speaker 2: going on? Ellis is not here today. Ellis is in Spain.

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Speaker 2: We're in the studio. Very little happening for me because

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Speaker 2: And so that's kind of cut me off from talking

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Speaker 2: culture will have fully moved on to some other piece

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Speaker 2: of art. So it's a show about a great group

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Speaker 2: anything else that's going on? Do I have any business?

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Speaker 2: Let's see, no no. I mean that's truly. I mean

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Speaker 2: I've shut down conversation after conversation the last three days

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Speaker 2: I just have nothing left to say. Nothing's really gone

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Speaker 2: And is there any actual business? I don't think so

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Speaker 2: Love is Blind. Ohio, I love today's guest. He's back.

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Speaker 2: It's Johnny Pemberton. Johnny, welcome back to I said no gifts.

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Speaker 2: This person's irresponsible with their dog ownership. Did you train

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Speaker 2: Our I think the only thing we need to train

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Speaker 2: That's a struggle. Early, it's a tough thing. I've had to, Like,

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Speaker 2: Where's your dog sleeping?

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Speaker 3: At you know, earlier than I want to get out.

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Speaker 3: We are crazy. We have we have no space.

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Speaker 2: H you have no space? Okay, see that's what we

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Speaker 2: the bathroom at that time. She's eaten like probably five

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00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 2: hours prior to this. There's no element of it where

438
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 2: it's like she's in physical need, but she's just ready

439
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 2: to get up and start doing things.

440
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 3: Have you tried not letting her out?

441
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we've started doing, where like we you know,

442
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 2: we just let her bark as long as possible until

443
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 2: she stops. But that could be a lot. You feel

444
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 2: terrible first of all, and secondly all it's very annoying.

445
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: So there's a kind of a two pronged approach by

446
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 2: her to get out of the crate. But I think

447
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: we're getting to a point that we're at least able

448
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 2: to be like we're just not going to do this

449
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 2: because then she knows and then she's in control of

450
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: the house. I don't know.

451
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 3: I saw some trainers say whatever you do with your dog,

452
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 3: that's the training them. So it doesn't matter whatever you Yeah,

453
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 3: whatever habitual activity you do, that is training, right, whether

454
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 3: you think you're training them, whether you're actively training them,

455
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 3: they are being trained. So whatever you do, like, I mean,

456
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: really trained our dog to get to walk at like

457
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 3: ten am right, not because I want to, because she

458
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 3: she asked me enough.

459
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: And enough and so she gets it. This is me

460
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 2: with giving the dog in an ice cube. Every time

461
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: I use the ice cream cube machine, they know she

462
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: hears the noise it's time.

463
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 3: For an ice It takes like three repetitions in they're

464
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 3: in yes to give.

465
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 2: An ice cube. Yeah, yes, Sometimes it's like one or

466
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 2: two times, and that's just what they are for the

467
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: rest of their life.

468
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: These dogs that have to have their food microwaved. No,

469
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: there's dogs that like get habituated to that, and they

470
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 3: don't actually microwave the food. They just turn the microwave

471
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 3: on for like five seconds and then take it out

472
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 3: and act like the dogs are satisfied.

473
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: How do you get caught in that trap?

474
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: I think it's it just happens accidentally once or twice, right,

475
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 3: the dog refuses to eat until that you do it.

476
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: Then when you do it, you're teaching them to expect it.

477
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 3: Once you do it like five or ten times, it's over.

478
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Our our old dog, Eaty would every time we

479
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 2: would go to get a drink of water, she would

480
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: go to her dish and get water. She just learned

481
00:21:59,520 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: to do that.

482
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

483
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Little computers, there are little computers. They're smarter

484
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: than you think they are. And also dumber than you think,

485
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: like they're just programmable creature.

486
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're so impressionable.

487
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very sweet. Well, I think there's something else

488
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: we should talk about. You were on the podcast I

489
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: think a couple of years ago at this point.

490
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit a while.

491
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, horrifying and we had a wonderful time. You did

492
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 2: bring a gift, which was unfortunate.

493
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: I know, I just can't help myself.

494
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 2: Hand trucking today. Again, I was raised it and you're

495
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: kind of programmed in a way. You brought a gift.

496
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: Should we open it here on the podcast? It's beautifully wrapped.

497
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 3: It's beautifully wrapped.

498
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: I kind of knew immediately that's a gift for me.

499
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: It's wrapped in this is this a track jackets? A

500
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: track jacket beautiful, kind of a Kelly Green.

501
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, haven't even worn it yet.

502
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,239
Speaker 2: Oh you haven't worn it yet.

503
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: I just gonna wear it today. But it's just so hot.

504
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: I want to look at it before I see the gift.

505
00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 2: This is a great tracket.

506
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 3: And when I picked it up at an vntage store,

507
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: of course, very of course, of course, of course I

508
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: didn't just buy and I got it an a vntage store.

509
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 2: It is a nice vintage.

510
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 3: In my travels. During one of my many travels I

511
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 3: travel for work. You see, when I travel for work,

512
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: I tend to shop a little bit. And my off time,

513
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: well i'm not filming on camera, I do a bit

514
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: of shopping at local vintage stores. That's where I precare.

515
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: I have a funky little boutique staffed by a peculiar

516
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 3: young man.

517
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: What where was this purchase?

518
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 3: In Winnipeg, Canada?

519
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: So internationally?

520
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 3: Of course, of course I tend to be traveling internationally.

521
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: As I do have a passport, I get to use

522
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: it quite quite quite often.

523
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 2: Okay, well let me hand this back to you. Oh

524
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: my god, you're really like filling out my garage.

525
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: You know I got him.

526
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: No one else is gonna Last time you brought me

527
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: a hand truck, I did.

528
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 3: The hand truck is such a good hand truck.

529
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: It's an excellent hand truck, and you've brought me. I

530
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: actually have to look at this to even te oh,

531
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: it's a folding saw. This is really weapon levels, so

532
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: it's more for tree trimming.

533
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: I think it's it's not really a weapon.

534
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: It's not really a blade, but it feels like you

535
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 2: could whip it open, you know, like a switch blade.

536
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 3: You could try it, but Fixers makes it pretty safe. Oh,

537
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 3: I've got a button on there as a guard like

538
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 3: a lock.

539
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: Oh should I open it?

540
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: You should just slide that backing up.

541
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: So it's not one of these like painful. No, No,

542
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: that's openness.

543
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: I think this is Danish, right, Fixers is Danish to

544
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: some sort of Scandinavian thing.

545
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 2: Wow, look at that thing. I've never seen one. I've

546
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: seen a lot of tools.

547
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: So they have to push the button down to open it.

548
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: But be careful.

549
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I was expecting it to just floil.

550
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: Now that could.

551
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: Possibly be that.

552
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 3: It's not an automatic knife. Those are actually illegal.

553
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: That's gorgeous.

554
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can trim a tree easily, trim a

555
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: little branch, you know.

556
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: Well, this is something I need all the time in

557
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: my yard.

558
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: That's what I figured.

559
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: I've been using something that is not the correct tool. Yeah,

560
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: Like it's beyond a snipper. It's like a pretty powerful.

561
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: Lopper.

562
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: Maybe a lopper is a handwinner or a cranker. It's

563
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 2: one where you almost have to use two hands to

564
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: get two hands.

565
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: That's wrong.

566
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so it's like when I'm clipping things. Yeah,

567
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't even it must be too cut. What would

568
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: you even cut?

569
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 3: That would be a smaller thing like an inch or less.

570
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: Right, and probably more less organic things, probably like wire.

571
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 3: Or I shouldn't be using that for that, you know,

572
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: certainly either lopper or like a just a tremor. But

573
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: that looks like a big a big diameter two or

574
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: three inch diameter. I'll cut easily through that.

575
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 2: How often are you trimming your trees?

576
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: I mean I'm trimming. If I'm not, I'm out there

577
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: too much. It's like a like a rat, you know.

578
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 3: I'm just always out there, touching and moving and stuff.

579
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: Right, It's like kind of a constant.

580
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a bad habit. It's almost like an O. C.

581
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: D thing where if I'll be talking my neighbor and

582
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: I'll be pulling weeds as we're.

583
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: Talking, which I think is very healthy.

584
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 3: It is, but also when I think about it, it's

585
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: kind of disrespectful to be pulling weeds as you're talking.

586
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: To someone, right, You're like not putting all of your

587
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: energy into But I feel like it just feels like

588
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: something that grounds the conversation in a way where you're

589
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: you know, you're doing something with your hands. You have

590
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: to be doing something with your hands when you're talking

591
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: to people. Why not have it be a project?

592
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: If I can get a good phone call going mm hmmm,

593
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 3: I'm unstoppable.

594
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: Oh while you're out in the garden. Yeah, oh, that's

595
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: a great idea. That's like my thing because I this

596
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: is my big problem with talking on the phone is

597
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm wasting time right now. My body

598
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: is worthless. I should start rolling calls while doing yard work.

599
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 3: It is the ultimate thing ever. I've been doing it

600
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: for so long, but something about it is just that

601
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: if you can at any kind of gardening right with

602
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: the on the phone.

603
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: Call, that sounds lovely because I do like talking to

604
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: my friends on the phone, and I feel like this

605
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: is a because I'm I'm kind of running out of

606
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: energy to like see friends for dinner.

607
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't that weird? How that?

608
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: Like?

609
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: I feel like nowadays that would be it's like a

610
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: big deal. Yeah we're gonna have dinner. Okay, Yeah, well,

611
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: oh gosh, okay, we're gonna have we're gonna meet. Even

612
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: I would lunch is more casual, but even then.

613
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just right in the middle of the day,

614
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: and then it just ruins the day. Then the day

615
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: is just like on both sides, it's just what am

616
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: I going to do then? Right? But a phone call

617
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: while doing something practical feels last night I was having

618
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: I probably had a forty five minute call about love

619
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: is Blind and did nothing with my time except for

620
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: talk about people I don't know marrying each other.

621
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: But that's kind of nice, I suppose. I mean, I

622
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: guess it depends. You could say that what I'm doing

623
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: is a little bit I don't know, not disrespectful, but

624
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: it's that thing where I'm like, I'm I'm doing something

625
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: else while doing that thing.

626
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not looking at your phone.

627
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: That to me is.

628
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: Like the rage that will go through me if I'm

629
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: trying to talk to somebody and they're instead of looking

630
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: at their phone, that feeling is horrible. But I feel

631
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: like if there's something that's repetitive, that just feels like

632
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: a thing that's just they're sure, do it, go for it.

633
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm in my backyard kind of. I eat

634
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: breakfast back there every day, and then it's become a

635
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: dream thing of where I just start doing things with

636
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: the yard.

637
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: What are you having for breakfast?

638
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: So boring? Just a protein bar and some coffee?

639
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: A protein bar?

640
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing?

641
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm I mean, I'm moving now. Okay, I've been doing.

642
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 3: This is my breakfast for the past like maybe six months.

643
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: I do like like granola, a little bit of like

644
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: high fiber cereal, a couple like maybe four or five

645
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: heaping tablespoons of no sugar plane full fat yogurt.

646
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: Okay, hopefully sheep right.

647
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: Add some dried cranberries in there. Oh, add maybe like

648
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: a little bit of a pinch of salt, cinnamon, and

649
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: then I'm probably good there. Maybe a little bit of

650
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: water because it has the water down. But I want

651
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: to move into overnight. Oh, it's want to start making

652
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: the own overnight oats.

653
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: I've tried in the past and they were a disaster.

654
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: How is it a disaster?

655
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: They? I don't think. I don't know if I put

656
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: in the right ingredients or the right portions, but it

657
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: just ended up tasting like very bland mush.

658
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: And I got a surprise for you. Wait, you're telling

659
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: me it tastes like bland mush.

660
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: I was expecting spice. Yeah, fireworks out of oatmeal.

661
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: It tastes like bland mush No.

662
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: But you see these pictures on Instagram and it's like

663
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 2: that is that looks like the best thing that's ever

664
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: been made, the berries, the peanut butter or whatever. And

665
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: then I make it myself.

666
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's because you're not adding a bunch of unnecessary.

667
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: Sugar, right, I guess that's it. But I don't like

668
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: sweet things. You don't, I don't really care, especially in

669
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: the morning. I would prefer it not to be too sweet.

670
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: I okay, yeah, So but if you were to make

671
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: overnight oats, what would you put in yours?

672
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's given me great, It's given me

673
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: the best oats.

674
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

675
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be some almond milk probably, maybe some old milk,

676
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: just a little bit, not too much, right, I'm gonna

677
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: ground grind some cheese seeds because you can't have the

678
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: whole chia seeds, right. I'm not looking to evacuate, I'm

679
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: looking to absorb the nutrients the chia seeds.

680
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: Right, because if you just eat a full chia seed,

681
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: it just flying through.

682
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: That's just like a little like time traveler, right, it's

683
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: a little skate pod for the seed. I'm gonna do that.

684
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do some probably some granola, okay, you know,

685
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: probably like some some berries of some kind. Sure, and

686
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: definitely I'll top it off with some yogurt one upon serving,

687
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: maybe some almond butter, maybe some peanut butter.

688
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: Right. See, the problem with all of this is you're

689
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: introducing a lot of choice, a lot of like having

690
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: to decide and me in the morning, especially like I

691
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: cannot operate.

692
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: I fold the opposite eliminates choice because I made it

693
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: the night before.

694
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: But then the night before I'm panicking, really and I'm wondering,

695
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: will I actually want to eat this tomorrow?

696
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: You don't want to eat it because I want to

697
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: eat it so bad.

698
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: Well, at the moment, of course, I want to eat it.

699
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: In the morning, I might wake up in a different mood.

700
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: Man.

701
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: See, I need something. I'm just like, I know I

702
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: won't enjoy it that much, but I feel like I.

703
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: Think we're just hitting the nail on the head here.

704
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: I don't know how you're denying this. It sounds like

705
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: the perfect thing.

706
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: Maybe I just need to give it more of a show.

707
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: I tried this also with egg bites.

708
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: You know, making you know, like the guitar buckstyle egg bite.

709
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to just have like some egg in

710
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: the morning, but I don't want to have to make

711
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: the whole thing. But then those were disgusting, Yeah, because

712
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: you can't make that.

713
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: The eggs are.

714
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: Hard, Eggs are extremely If you fuck up an egg,

715
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: then it's just revolting.

716
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: And you got to you gotta do stuff.

717
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: Oh, you absolutely have to do something like a cold breakfast.

718
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: I yeah, I guess unless somebody else has made it

719
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: for me. Right, Like, I love like a breakfast at

720
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: a diner.

721
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: Or something, but breakfasted dinner is too good.

722
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I can't have that. Can you imagine making

723
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 2: all of those elements as well as a diner can

724
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: make them sick?

725
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: I'll be sick. If I have a breath that kind

726
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: of breakfast every day, I'll be sick.

727
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: It would take an hour and a half to prepare

728
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: the breakfast.

729
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: Eat like, oh, eat so much bacon and eggs and toast.

730
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: Christ on a crutch. You ever had that expression crush?

731
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: Where did that come from?

732
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: Some some like Midwestern Catholic bet on a crutch. I

733
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: think it's like, oh, oh God, Jesus and marine Joseph

734
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: Christ on a crutch. You can't have bacon every morning?

735
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: Oh God, that's too much.

736
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: Is the crutch just because of the alliteration?

737
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: Maybe because yeah, I think it's just the illiteration.

738
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: It's just the because we're not picturing I mean, like

739
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: now we're just imagining this biblical figure on a crutch,

740
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: Jesus on a crutch, poor Jesus, Jesus on a jumper,

741
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: Jesus on a Jesus.

742
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: Maria used to hear that a lot.

743
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: I bet you have a lot of those in the Midwest.

744
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: I mean a little bit.

745
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: I feel like that's probably the birthplace of a lot

746
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: of that sort of phrase in the South too. Yeah,

747
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: the South has got a lot of wild sections. Yeah,

748
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: my boyfriend, I think it's kind of conjured a thing

749
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: talk the chicken off a bone, which feels like something

750
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: that's good real, but I don't know that it's actually

751
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: is that southern? It feels Southern, right, he could talk

752
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: the chicken off a bone. I feel like I've mentioned

753
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: this that on this podcast before, and usually people will

754
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: be like, you know, actually, or tell you immediately or

755
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: diagnose you with some sort of illness, but no one

756
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: had heard of this, so but it feels like that

757
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: feels like it's been around since the beginning of time. Yeah,

758
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: talk the chicken off a boat.

759
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: You could talk the chicken off a bomb. Sty a

760
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: wife from jam sty a wife from ham. You want

761
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: to cape your pockets full, don't talk to him. He

762
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: can talk the chicken off a bomb.

763
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Your current breakfast is kind of like a dream

764
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: breakfast for me. Granola and yoga meat. Maybe that's my

765
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: thing is I just need to get some nice, plain yogurt.

766
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't like a sweetened yogurt.

767
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: I cannot stand as sweeten yogurt.

768
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: A sweet and slime essentially. Yeah, it's disgusting.

769
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: You remember that part of Toddlers and Tierras from years ago,

770
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: the girl being like, E, I can smell the hairspry. Yeah,

771
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: I just conjured that in my head when I went, eh,

772
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: there's a little girl. They have a swong. This is

773
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: from fifteen years ago by race right. Little girl and

774
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: she's got a super thick Southern accent. But there's some

775
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: internet me that has it slowed down and she's talking

776
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: about hairspray. I can smell it right now. It's so nasty.

777
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: That's a sweet and yogurt.

778
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: For me, those little girls were old souls. Yeah, I

779
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: wonder where they are now.

780
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: God, I don't want to know. That's of those things

781
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: where it's like it's either bad or worse.

782
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: There's no way that that like went ended up in

783
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: medical school or better Jail. That's the new TLC show, Yeah,

784
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: Catching Better Jail. They probably had something in that realm

785
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: TLC that anytime a TLC thing gets recommended to me,

786
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: I just think, where did this start from? What evil

787
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: person had this idea?

788
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: God, we've fallen so far.

789
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 2: History Channel, Oh, the History Channel TLC. Those things used

790
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: to be kind of a and e oh my god,

791
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: are you kid? Arts and Entertainment Bravo used to be

792
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: like the Opera Channel?

793
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 3: Was it really?

794
00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: You think?

795
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: So everything has just gone to the I mean, not

796
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: even the dogs.

797
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: Not even give me a break.

798
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: No, this is just gone, like the not even the rats.

799
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: What is it.

800
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: It's gone like those little pill bugs that eat stuff.

801
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: It's gone to the roaches.

802
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: A restaurant in my neighborhood recently got shut down for

803
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: rodents and place I had eaten that probably once every

804
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: six weeks at least, and that was a terrible feeling.

805
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: But rodents are taking over La. There's a rat problem.

806
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: No way, rats everywhere? I don't know, true according to.

807
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: Me, Okay, I wasn't sure that's what I was asking

808
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: because perception, you know.

809
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: But I've seen a lot of rats in the last

810
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: couple of years, way more than I have in the

811
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: last you know, I've lived here for almost sixteen years.

812
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: That makes sense though, because that's sort of like the

813
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: one of those things where that's an indicator species.

814
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, that's that's right today. What are the other indicators?

815
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: I guess I can go the other direction too, where

816
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: an indicator species can be like a high end dog.

817
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: When those start showing up in your neighborhood, it's gentrification

818
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: sort of thing.

819
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: So it's the indicator species act is an actual term

820
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: that I used wrong.

821
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, So what else could it mean? Then?

822
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: I think it's indicator species. I'm gonna say it wrong,

823
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: but it has to do with something with like population decline,

824
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: like in terms of like certain species show up when

825
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: they there's more of them.

826
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: I don't fuck, but it kind of like it feels

827
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: like you've used it in a proper ish way.

828
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: I have a good friend who's in a who's a biologist,

829
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: so he probably said it.

830
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, yeah, I might use that,

831
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: but they like probably in the correct sense. It's more

832
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: just to do with actual ecosystems, yeah, and how they

833
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: affect each other some.

834
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: But we're hardcore in the Holocene now, right, I'm not sorry.

835
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: The anthroposyne No, I'm not familiar.

836
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: The anthroposcene is a term that I'm pretty sure. It's like,

837
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: we're definitely in it now, okay, Like instead of the

838
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: whatever the previous era was, we're now in the anthroposyne,

839
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: which means that we're in the era that is so

840
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: significantly in influenced by many that we are. It's a

841
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: different thing completely. It's considered a different uh you know

842
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: how there's like the Holocene and there's like.

843
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: That there eras where like nature or animals also had

844
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: some level of impact on what we were going on.

845
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: Those are huge, massive long eras where this is one

846
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: the this type of the the saber to tiger existed

847
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: in this era, right, So we're out of that a

848
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: right now. But now we're in this era called anthroposy,

849
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: which means that humans have so significantly impacted their environment

850
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: that it's caused us to Scientists to definitively describe the

851
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: era as being different than the previous.

852
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder that must have been in the last

853
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: hundred years.

854
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty even more recently. And this is

855
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: not like a debate thing, and this is something where

856
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: like all all scientists agree that that this is very

857
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: much the case and so.

858
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: And then I can't imagine what the next era could

859
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: even possibly be. We're going to be in this for

860
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: a while, right until we've were our own undoing.

861
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, until it's like just jellyfish, just jellyfish, and maybe

862
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: like god knows what else on the land.

863
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: Anthropos the anthroposy fast, I mean terrifying.

864
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: It's terrifying, but it's also kind of that thing where

865
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: it's like, I take what's it called when you take

866
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: it makes something you feel good about? No, I can't

867
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: think of I can't think of any words today. But

868
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like, well, we're all in this now.

869
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: It's it's unchangeable, right, We're just in this. We're in

870
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: a different era because like this idea where people talk

871
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: about plants being invasive, right right, you know how there's

872
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: the person you know sometimes it's me, But I pulled

873
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: back from that because everything we're surrounded by invasive species,

874
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: surrounded by non natives. Yes, they're just proliferate everywhere. And

875
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: so it's kind of like this thing now where like

876
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 3: I was arguing with someone about asthma, so someone is

877
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: saying that the jasmin's and bloom, now like, well, it's not.

878
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: Actually you're smelling something else unless you have some sort

879
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: of weird microclimate. You're not smelling jasmine right now, right,

880
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: just smelling citrus bossoms, which smell incredible. You're smelling a

881
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: different thing that looks like Jasmine's not technically whatever the

882
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: scientific name for jasmine, which is this crazy hard to

883
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: repeat name, because jasmine's non native.

884
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: Right.

885
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 3: So that's this thing where we're all habituated to think

886
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: something is normal because it's been around for I don't

887
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: know one hundred years.

888
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 2: Who is currently a live lifetime Yeah.

889
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: They understand that says oh, this is just how it is,

890
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 3: when technically that is not a normal thing at all, right,

891
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: But we're just so habituated to it that we think

892
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, this is this is normal, when actually

893
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: it's fully not at.

894
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: All, right, And so you're saying this with the anthroposy

895
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: and you're saying, well, I'm just going to embrace it.

896
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: You know, we're in it.

897
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: There's no one doing it. How do we make the

898
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: best of this situation?

899
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: Exactly? It's over kind of thing, right, Like did you

900
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: see this thing about this is so stupid? But I

901
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 3: found out, Uh, there's a book a woman wrote. I

902
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: have to read it, but it's about ice. Not about

903
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: the the goon squad, I know, but about literally about.

904
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: Ice, right frozen water.

905
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 3: And it just blew my mind because you realize that

906
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: all human life in the world, pretty much in any

907
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: type of like even mildly first world setting, has been

908
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 3: radically changed since we have the ability to refrigerate things,

909
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: oh get ice. Yeah, I'm sure it's like completely different.

910
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean the things that that allows, like

911
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: from like science to like luxury things.

912
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: It's so different. Like the life lifestyle we have has

913
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: been everything for before ice was everywhere you went was

914
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 3: different because we don't have any ice.

915
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: You know, the idea of like there being a period

916
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: when like there was just it was literally impossible to

917
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: be out in the desert area and there is just

918
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: how would you have eyes?

919
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 3: What you got is what you got.

920
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the things you're dealing with, and if

921
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: you want to preserve something, it's got to be.

922
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: Insult Yeah, and now that is everywhere.

923
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's probably one of the biggest things that

924
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: like on the same level of fire.

925
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: It's huge. It's so huge where I'm seeing this. I

926
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: gotta read the book because it's just called ice, right,

927
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: But you know, like it made me feel like an idiot,

928
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: right because I'm thinking, Oh, all this time, I haven't

929
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: realized that that so many things in our life are

930
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 3: just they're completely and totally influenced by refrigeration. We would

931
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 3: be living completely different lives.

932
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Absolutely, yeah, I mean we wouldn't have

933
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: any sort of medication.

934
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 3: There's everything would be so much more localized, like the

935
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: way you do it over there. Oh, that's how they

936
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: do it, because you know they got it's cold then.

937
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: Right ice. Oh that's very nice thing. I'm curious about that.

938
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

939
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough time for that book title.

940
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 3: But oh my god, the worst yeah, the worst.

941
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: Is there anything left to say about this? Saw?

942
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: I mean, oh, I check it out. If you push

943
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: down that button and push it the other direction, like

944
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: you're not going to fold it, so push.

945
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: Here you do it because I'm scared.

946
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: So watch this. You can do like an undercut.

947
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: Oh that's great, cool. Wow, what a piece of engineering.

948
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: I know these Danish or maybe Swedes, who knows, they've

949
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: been making this stuff like over one hundred years. Oh

950
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: at least, right, it's probably cut some ice with this, yeah,

951
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: and sell it to people in the tropics.

952
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: Have you been ever been to Antarctica?

953
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: No?

954
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that feels like a place that you would travel.

955
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: I was obsessed with it for a long time because

956
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 3: there's this great book called Big Dead Place by Nicholas Johnson.

957
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: I was.

958
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: I communicated with him a couple of times. Okay, he's

959
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 3: not alive anymore, sure, but I mean this book is

960
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: one of the funniest things I've ever read my entire life. Huh,

961
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: Big Dead Place, Big dead Places all about uh an Arctica,

962
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 3: because there is myth by Antarctica.

963
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: That's all scientists, right, sure?

964
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: Four to five people there are like support workers like

965
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: dishwasher of course, truck driver just like you know, labor person.

966
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: That are kind of keeping it all up for the

967
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: other people.

968
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: And an Arctica for the most part is run by Raytheon, oh,

969
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: which is a defense contract right right, so our PSCTHON

970
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: Polar Services.

971
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: It's kind of eerie, it.

972
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: Is, and it's so just wrought with bureaucracy in a

973
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: way that is comical.

974
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: How many people do you think are currently living in Antarctica?

975
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: So it's got to be an extremely small population.

976
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: During the winter, it's pretty small, but I think the

977
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 3: summer it booms significantly. Huh. Yeah.

978
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: I wonder what the social scene feels like.

979
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of drinking, yeah, and like

980
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: a lot of people having sex with someone who they

981
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: don't care what they look like.

982
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 4: Right.

983
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: This is very Love Island. Very This feels like the reality.

984
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: I think it would be the reality show that people

985
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to watch it, Like imagine being like miser

986
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: it's full darkness for about five or six months. Yeah,

987
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 3: colly dark.

988
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: Have you been to a place where the day night

989
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: cycles like that? Like been in Alaska during the summer

990
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: or anything? I want so crazy? It was in Alaska

991
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: during the summer once. And what an unsettling feeling for

992
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: it to be like four or like two am it's

993
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: still like it's noon. Your body doesn't know what to

994
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: do with it. So yeah, very and for it to

995
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: be completely dark I don't know if i'd be able

996
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: to handle it.

997
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 3: How long were you there for?

998
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: Just like a week, and so it was like my

999
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: dad had it was a business trip. My brother and

1000
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: I went along and kind of we fished and then

1001
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 2: we like saw Fast Fish Furious in the movie theater.

1002
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 3: That's a cool I love seeing a movie in a place,

1003
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1004
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: It's a great like it's a kind of a waste

1005
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 2: of a vacation or try, but it is an interesting feeling.

1006
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: It's like because it's such a such a thing you

1007
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: associate with doing well at home.

1008
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: It's also like you go to I always go to McDonald's.

1009
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: I'm in a foreign country.

1010
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: Oh that will really give you a taste of the

1011
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: little you just check out, like how they doing it here?

1012
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: Right? Right?

1013
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'd like to be in a movie theater in

1014
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: a foreign place. I don't know, especially in Alaska that's

1015
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: not quite a movie town. But to see Fast and

1016
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: the Furious and then go like deep sea fishing and

1017
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: be throwing up on a boat. Did you catch I

1018
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: caught nothing because I was so sea sick. It was me,

1019
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: my dad and brother and then a grandmother and her

1020
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: granddaughter who was pregnant, so the granddaughter who was pregnant.

1021
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: I were just throwing up the whole time, damn. And

1022
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: then my father and brother were fishing, so I didn't

1023
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: get to catch anything. But did they catch anything? Yeah,

1024
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: I think they did halibin.

1025
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: I think, okay, yeah, they get it smoked.

1026
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: No, I think we just I think it was sent home.

1027
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: This is a long time ago frozen, okay. But we

1028
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: then we did some fishing that was not deep sea

1029
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: fishing and caught salmon.

1030
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: I think. Nice.

1031
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 2: But we were like fishing and you could see bears.

1032
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: It was incredible. It's not really like a thing that

1033
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: I would ever seek out, you know, it's exactly my thing,

1034
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: but I I mean, it was wonderful, fascinating. We also

1035
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: lived in like an airbnb, wasn't It was a what

1036
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: do we used to call those? Just a rental, a

1037
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: rented house. It was like a rented basement of a

1038
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: woman who we think may have been spying on us

1039
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: with a like a cyber camera.

1040
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 3: She's got what else is she going to do?

1041
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: Truly, at those endless nights, why did you think that,

1042
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: Because this was so long ago that my brother had

1043
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: to he was he was like an early eBay person

1044
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: and he was selling something. He was like fifteen at

1045
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: the time, but was selling something on eBay and had

1046
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: to borrow her computer I think, to use eBay and

1047
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: then saw her Internet history and there was like hidden

1048
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: shower cameras that she had been searching for.

1049
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's fuck, that's against the law.

1050
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: Maybe not at the time, maybe I don't know, wow,

1051
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: but yeah, that was And we found out that her

1052
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: screen name was Lusty Lady Linda.

1053
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 3: Linda's got a second life.

1054
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 2: Huh, she might have footage of me, damn, who knows.

1055
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: But that was a fun thing to discover while like

1056
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: being in somebody's rented basement weird vacation.

1057
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 3: That sounds fun though that again, I feel like it's

1058
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: maybe you know, we're not doing that anymore now. I

1059
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 3: was like, you hit the code to check in company

1060
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 3: running it.

1061
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: You're not meeting the people who are spye on you.

1062
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you meet me, I'll because I'll let you.

1063
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll let you do whatever you want with me,

1064
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: take care of it, do whatever you want. But if

1065
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: you're in some office for no.

1066
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: I'm sick of it all.

1067
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: I feel like you're a do fish. I have but

1068
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm not like an outdoorsy person.

1069
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm a very outdoorsy person, but I'm not like a

1070
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I'm like a big.

1071
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: Fishing Okay, you're more like hiking camping.

1072
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I love fishing. I don't like eating

1073
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: a lot of fish.

1074
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but I mean I just.

1075
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: Love the I don't know, I like all that stuff.

1076
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: Anything outdoors. I'm men do it on some level. I'm

1077
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: not like a really good at being out there for

1078
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 3: a long time.

1079
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: What's the longest you've been out for?

1080
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 3: Probably like me, four nights off in the back country.

1081
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so like a big hike.

1082
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Every summer I go with some friends up to

1083
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: Yosemite area.

1084
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful.

1085
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: Do about a week up.

1086
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: There, Okay. I've been wanting to go up there for

1087
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: a very long time.

1088
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of the most incredible places in

1089
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 3: the world.

1090
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Any image you see of it, it's like this is, yeah,

1091
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 2: just absolutely stunning.

1092
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: There's a reason all these people come from different countries

1093
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: to see.

1094
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: That, right.

1095
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: They don't have that shit.

1096
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: They do not have it. Their garbage, the things that.

1097
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 3: Come you know. That's the thing about the national parks.

1098
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where I'm kind of like

1099
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 3: a zealot for America in that sense where.

1100
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: It's kind of like these jewels that America happens to

1101
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: have that are protected for now, and other countries they don't. Well,

1102
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: I mean other countries I think are just beautiful naturally

1103
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: and they just get to continue being natural. I guess

1104
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: you have to protect them. Yeah, if there's not the space, Yeah,

1105
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: we have.

1106
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 3: Stuff that they just we just don't. They don't have

1107
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: the same. It's just different and the variety, the variety,

1108
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 3: everything about it is bigger, right, it's Yeah.

1109
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite National Park?

1110
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: Uh, definitely a SMI. But it's one I've been to

1111
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: so many times. It's so big and there's so many

1112
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: places you can go to that are like if you

1113
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: want Ansel Adams Wilderness, Oh, it's next to Yosemite. You

1114
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 3: go through there, and you feel like this is a

1115
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: fucking dream or something. Wow, you feel like you're in

1116
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: some sort of AI constructed a set, right because you're

1117
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: pop there's a little rolling hills with all this granite

1118
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 3: boulders and uh, little pools that are green, blue.

1119
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: And right.

1120
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: This is something that it's just uh, for whatever reason,

1121
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: my brain takes issue with whenever somebody says this looks

1122
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: like another planet or this looks like AI. I think, no,

1123
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: this is just beautiful Earth.

1124
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: It's just this.

1125
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm just like, but it is just like this is amazing.

1126
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: This isn't right.

1127
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: That's because it's we see the simulacrum before we see

1128
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: the reality, right, Right. So it's like it's like when

1129
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 3: people go to Disneyland and the people go to Paris

1130
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 3: and they're like, it's just like Disneyland. It's like it's

1131
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: the other way around, so fun. But it's just how

1132
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: it is because we've been we don't see still, we

1133
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: see the fake before we see the real.

1134
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: Right, it's so much easier to access artificial things for

1135
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: the most real you.

1136
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 3: Just kind of it feels fake because it's so pristine.

1137
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: Right. That's like growing up in Utah. That's a lot

1138
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: of that sort of thing where it's like it feels

1139
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: like we're on Mars and it's like, well, no, it's

1140
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: just this is what.

1141
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 3: Earth looks like. But Utah non Utah is just stunning.

1142
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Utah is very beautiful and then

1143
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: a lot of it is very beige. Yeah, but the

1144
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: beautiful parts are gorgeous. Well, I'm thrilled, Like the practicality

1145
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: you're lending to my life is really impressive.

1146
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: That's my goal.

1147
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're also putting tree cutters out of business.

1148
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: I think they're they're still okay.

1149
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess like there are parts of these trees

1150
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: that are too high up for me.

1151
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have one of those, and I

1152
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 3: just hired some tree cutters, right I had.

1153
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: I got a little irresponsible and didn't trim the tree

1154
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: and it fully collapsed in the wind. What that was?

1155
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it was kind of impressive to see, not

1156
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 2: sure what sort of tree, and it was big enough

1157
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: that most of it's still alive, but one fold like

1158
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: trunk collapsed in my yard and was just blocking the

1159
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: entire yard. It was fun to look at.

1160
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: Was in it conifer? Deciduous? Oh?

1161
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: If I have no idea?

1162
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 3: Was it pine pine type?

1163
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: No?

1164
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: Not pine type? Yeah, So you know, I wish I

1165
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: had any not an oak, because the branches or the

1166
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 2: trunks are maybe this big around again.

1167
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: They go up in three with a flower.

1168
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: No, okay, still mostly alive, but I'll be able to

1169
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: do some light trimming some time, pruning. I think we

1170
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: should play a game.

1171
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm ready.

1172
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: Oh we're going to play Gift or a Curse. But

1173
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: I need to number between one and ten from you five. Okay.

1174
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating to get our

1175
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: game pieces. So right now you can promote, recommend, do

1176
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: whatever you want.

1177
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: Please continue to watch Fallout on Amazon Prime. Enjoy it

1178
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: all episodes are available, and then prep yourself to go

1179
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: to the theater and see Mermaid when it comes out

1180
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: on April eighth and most draft house cinemas across the country.

1181
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 3: Mermaid written directed by Tyler Kornack, starring Johnny Pemberton.

1182
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for Mermaid, me too. You've posted a

1183
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: little bit about it, but yeah, it seems to already

1184
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: be very well received.

1185
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 3: And yeah, we had a great time at south By

1186
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 3: last year.

1187
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 2: What is the movie about?

1188
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: It is about a loser guy named Doug who's played

1189
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 3: by me, and he finds a mermaid. But it's not

1190
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 3: like a beautiful mermaid.

1191
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: This is a creature, right, It's something that lives in

1192
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 2: the ocean.

1193
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: Yes, but it is a mermaid. It's an exotic it's

1194
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: an exotic creature. So he falls in love with it.

1195
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: In a sense and all this madness ensues.

1196
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 2: And people are going gaga over Fallout.

1197
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's it's such a big thing and

1198
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: it's been around for so long that right, But it's.

1199
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 2: Like kind of crossed over in a way where it

1200
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: was like a big video game and it it's like

1201
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 2: a big everything.

1202
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess it's just because they did such a

1203
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: great job with the show.

1204
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: You know, it's good casting.

1205
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: I think the best. Yeah, I'm I'm biased, but I

1206
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: would say some of the probably one of the best cast.

1207
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: I really believe that. Yeah, not interesting to get LORI

1208
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: Metcalf over there, Oh my.

1209
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 3: God, I would be I'd have to prep myself significantly

1210
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 3: to be able to speak with her without that would yeah.

1211
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: Fe oh she's the absolute best. Okay, this is how

1212
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: we play Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name

1213
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: three things. You'll tell me if they're a gift or

1214
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: a curse and why then I'll tell you if you're

1215
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: right or wrong because I got correct answers right. These

1216
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: are all from Patreon listeners today. This first one is

1217
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: from Christiane Gift. You're a curse. Podcasters who routinely talk

1218
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: through a burp.

1219
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: Ooh that's a curse. Why because it's someone who is

1220
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: they just can't take the time to realize that they'll

1221
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: get back the time.

1222
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: This correct, I mean correct. This is a total curse

1223
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: for me. Anytime somebody brings up the word podcast on

1224
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: this podcast, I think, are they talking about me? But

1225
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: I can't imagine I've done that before? Have I talked?

1226
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: I don't think you have.

1227
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: What does that even look like?

1228
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: I may have done it today?

1229
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: What does that really like practically speaking? Is are they

1230
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: like here? It is?

1231
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 3: So the thing about these weapons is people are just

1232
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 3: always finding them on the streets. And that's.

1233
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: Listener, if I've ever done that, I'm sorry that feels

1234
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 2: What I was imagining is like as a kid, you've

1235
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: been like the gross kid being like I'll do the

1236
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 2: ABC's as a burp.

1237
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I forgot that that was such a thing,

1238
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: that was the real thing. For a while, I wanted

1239
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: so badly to be that guy.

1240
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: Seems so dangerous to me. Okay, so this is more

1241
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: of a like you're just hearing them like process a

1242
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: bodily something while talking, rather than just stepping back for

1243
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: a second. Well, I think that's a curse, and I'm

1244
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 2: sorry that if I've ever done it, and if Christina's

1245
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: kind of passively aggressively passive aggressively coming after me, I apologize. Okay,

1246
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: you've gotten one right so far. Nexus is from Caroline

1247
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 2: or Caroline, I don't know. Gift or a curse. Retired

1248
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: ambulances repurposed as plumbing work trucks.

1249
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: I don't know that was even a thing. I'd say

1250
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 3: gift why. I just think anything repurposed is great, correct?

1251
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: I love?

1252
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: I love, especially a repurposed truck, because trucks come in

1253
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: all sorts of shapes and fun sizes. A repurpose like

1254
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: postal truck or ice cream truck. Those aren't typical vehicles

1255
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: you're seeing other than their exact use. So then when

1256
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: it's a plumbing truck, has anybody ever done a fire

1257
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: truck other than yeah, what use will that be other

1258
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: than looking like a long rectangle?

1259
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 3: Right?

1260
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: And the gas the gas on those things.

1261
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 3: Probably diesel, that's gonna be. That's a big bill.

1262
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: This is something I don't understand. When fire people go

1263
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: out to lunch with each other and take the fire truck.

1264
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: They do.

1265
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: Yes, So we were seeing this, So pull up in

1266
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: front of like a savage place. It's like, wait, doesn't

1267
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: send me you're coming from or to a job? Is

1268
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 2: so they just have it ready.

1269
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: I think it's so they get the discount, but they've

1270
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: already got the costume on just and every every bit helps.

1271
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 3: If I were a fire guy, I'll be doing that,

1272
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Are there fire ladies?

1273
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: There have to be.

1274
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: I mean I think that there have to be.

1275
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: But I just I have never uh well, I've never

1276
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: been rescued from a fire. First of all, I've never

1277
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: been god knock on wood, I'll never I haven't been

1278
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: dragged from a burning home or anything. But I've never

1279
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 2: interacted with a fire woman.

1280
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: Right, I haven't either. I'm just thinking, you know.

1281
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are ill becaussive times the living scenario.

1282
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: I guess. I don't know. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I

1283
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: don't want to discount that. I'm sure there are. But

1284
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: it's just I think it is a very male dominated.

1285
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: I think it's very dominated. But I wonder, I wonder.

1286
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: Now it's got me wondering. Yeah.

1287
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 3: Also, sometimes there's that thing maybe where you know certain industries.

1288
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 3: It's not like you can try to to make that happen.

1289
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: But it just nobody wants to do.

1290
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: It, right. The guys of the down of the station

1291
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: just refuse.

1292
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 3: Well, not even that, it's like there's just we can't

1293
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: find any women who want to do it.

1294
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: Oh right, it's just like, well the door is open. Yeah. Yeah,

1295
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: but they're they're driving those trucks that out to the

1296
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: you know, sandwich place, and the gas I mean they're

1297
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: blowing through gas. They must be diesel. It's got to

1298
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: be diesel, right, yeah, not that that matters, but maybe

1299
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: slightly cheaper. I've never seen one filling out of Maybe

1300
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: they have it at.

1301
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: The station at the station.

1302
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: Interesting. There are a lot of things about how a

1303
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: fire station works that I'm not familiar with.

1304
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: It's become a very much nine year old boy on

1305
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: the Spectrum conversation. We need to correct us.

1306
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: Did you ever you had that show where you drove

1307
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: big vehicles around?

1308
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, forever ago? Yeah?

1309
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: Did you ever drive a fire fire truck?

1310
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: I did?

1311
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 2: You did?

1312
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: And Salt Lake too?

1313
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: Really?

1314
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah it was an airport fire truck.

1315
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: Okay, how far did you drive it?

1316
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: God? Not very far, just kind of around the like

1317
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 3: the area where they have simulated fires.

1318
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 2: Okay, what's it hard to drive. I don't remember how

1319
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: did that show even come into being.

1320
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: It came into being. This was back when MTV was

1321
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 3: was doing stuff like that, and they had someone create

1322
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: it and they just needed someone to host. Yeah, they

1323
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 3: auditioned me. They flew me out to Jersey to audition

1324
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 3: and like the middle of winter against other people, other

1325
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 3: people they were auditioning, right, with a test, like a.

1326
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: Camera testing And did you have to drive for the test?

1327
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1328
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 3: I drove like a semi in a lot with like

1329
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 3: some some dude. I think it's Portuguese. God, I can

1330
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: rarely remember this, but I definitely had like a test.

1331
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: That's fast they got and that was enough to make

1332
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: the pilot shot the pilot and it got picked up right,

1333
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 3: and they had a different guy come on as showrunner

1334
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: for the show. Okay, it was a whole thing. It

1335
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: was like a lot of work.

1336
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a I mean that the logistics of

1337
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: that seem very complicated to me, putting someone who doesn't

1338
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: drive these things that usually require a license to drive them.

1339
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: Was there any not to just suddenly dive into you

1340
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: driving the car show? But was there any car that

1341
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: was particularly scary to drive?

1342
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: All of them. They were all I think back, and

1343
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: I cannot believe I didn't come close to dyet. Of course,

1344
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: I was riding in some motorcycle that was like a

1345
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 3: like uh it was maybe twenty times the size of

1346
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 3: a regular motorcycle for what purpose? Because it was some guy,

1347
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 3: some wacko dude.

1348
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: It was like a novelty cycle.

1349
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: Novelty. This thing was not rated by any authority, and

1350
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 3: we drove over stuff. The fact that it didn't tip over,

1351
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: I would have broken all of my ribs, one hundred

1352
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: percent would have I was like a metal cage, would

1353
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: have broken all my ribs. We drove these these dolphins

1354
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 3: that were barely tested. It all dolphins, like a dolphin

1355
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: like sort of like a she had like a like

1356
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: a seaday. It was in the dolphin shape and you

1357
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: were encapsulated in it. The fact that I didn't drown

1358
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 3: in a lake in Oregon go underwater, yeah, just a

1359
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 3: little bit.

1360
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1361
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 3: And it was the most deeply unsafe thing.

1362
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: While you were doing it. Were you enjoying it or

1363
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: you just being like theocusing on, I don't want to

1364
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: die while doing that.

1365
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 3: I loved it, but I used to always acknowledge I

1366
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: had a thing where I'd always imagine how I would die,

1367
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 3: thinking that if you are prepared for dying in a

1368
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: certain way, the angel of death doesn't want to kill

1369
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 3: you that way because the angel of death wants to

1370
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 3: surprise you.

1371
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: It's no fun for the angel of death.

1372
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, because angel death wants to be like if you

1373
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 3: can see it coming, it's like a mountain lion. Mountain

1374
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: lion never attacks you had on Oh I didn't know that.

1375
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 3: They pretty much never do because they're ambush predators. I

1376
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 3: think that death is the same way.

1377
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

1378
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 3: So I would constantly imagine how I would die in

1379
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 3: hopes that I wouldn't die that way. And the older

1380
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 3: I get, the more I'm like, I cannot believe how

1381
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: legal department signed off on any of this.

1382
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially the more you know about how TV gets

1383
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: made and how little they'll that you do anything.

1384
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just so incredibly I think I was

1385
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: also just really cautious, like I was looking out for

1386
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: myself all the time.

1387
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, you probably had to, especially on like kind

1388
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: of a reality show where right, they probably want someone

1389
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: to die on camera.

1390
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 3: I mean often I want someone to die, but injury

1391
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: would have been cool.

1392
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been exciting for them, for sure.

1393
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: I did vomit in a plane spectacularly, in a stunt plane,

1394
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I sprayed vomit. And as much as

1395
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: they that much as the pilot hated that, the producers were.

1396
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: Like, of course, yeah, they would do that every episode

1397
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 2: if they could. Yes, that's a show where you throw

1398
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 2: up on a different vehicle every God, that's a sequel show.

1399
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah it was Manus.

1400
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that's a fun memory to think of it.

1401
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Manus.

1402
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if we've ever talked about this, but

1403
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: I think you were in the like the first stand

1404
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: up show I ever saw in La. You were on

1405
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: the lineup. Where was it? It was in that weird

1406
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: little western thing on Gower Gower Gulch.

1407
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: I think, okay, I think I know you're talking about it.

1408
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up, Tiger Lily? Maybe as what I was,

1409
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: that's it. I think that was the first, and I

1410
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: remember it being like the longest stand up show I

1411
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: have ever.

1412
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 3: Seen, probably like fifteen comedians.

1413
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was truly like three and a half hours.

1414
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 3: I remember that shit.

1415
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: But I remember you were like the one person and

1416
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 2: I was like this person's very funny and the rest

1417
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: of this is agony. Yes, that's a very early memory too.

1418
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 3: That's good.

1419
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: Okay, well now we've gotten very off course, but I

1420
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: think you've gotten two right so far. Finally, this is

1421
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: from Stephanie Gift to a curse. A stuffed animal affixed

1422
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: to a semi truck.

1423
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 3: That's a curse. Why it's gonna get out? Get out?

1424
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 2: Dirty?

1425
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 3: I think it's so dirty. It's one of those things

1426
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 3: where you can't tell what's going on. Is this like

1427
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 3: a is this a person a hard person showing their

1428
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 3: soft side? Or is this a person who's so hard

1429
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 3: You're like, this is what I do with the stuffed animal.

1430
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 3: I don't like that?

1431
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: Correct, you win the game? This to me, any adult

1432
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: interacting with a stuffed animal or plush, it's immediately like

1433
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: the madded gross fur. There's something dirty about it. There's

1434
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 2: something like something's wrong here, especially those they're out in

1435
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: the weather. They're filthy. It's just like, this is dangerous.

1436
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: There's an element of this person that I can't trust. Ever,

1437
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: and why did they go out of their way to

1438
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: attach this to the thing? What are they trying to prove?

1439
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 3: The only excuse is if their child was lost, just

1440
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 3: all they have. But even then you wouldn't have fixed

1441
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 3: it to the back of your truck.

1442
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: That feels like the worst possible play.

1443
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because usually you can find the stuffed animals, like

1444
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: this is where Abigail was murdered, and we found her.

1445
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 3: There's her stuffy and that happens all the time. This

1446
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 3: is the classic case of for forensic files.

1447
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: Now, if that happens, get the tattoo.

1448
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 4: When Abigail McIntyre m why would I say McIntyre the

1449
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 4: first time anyone ever said, McIntyre said of McIntyre, mcre mckintyre.

1450
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: My brain just did some weird thing where it's like,

1451
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 3: yees say it that way.

1452
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: Where you can't even picture what the last.

1453
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: You freaking idiot say it mckintyre. Jesus, how do they

1454
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: do that?

1455
01:04:54,520 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: That's g in it? Yeah, McIntyre, mckent, mcmacintyre, McIntyre.

1456
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: Young Abigail McIntyre, I was lost for forty days. Her

1457
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 3: parents found her stuffed animal.

1458
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: Well you won the game. Good for you know what

1459
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: to say? Will you help me answer a listener question?

1460
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: I will, Okay, people are writing into I said no

1461
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: gifts at Gmail dot com or they're sending voice notes

1462
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: that have to common sense, record them in a quiet place,

1463
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: don't make them too long, that sort of thing. Okay,

1464
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: this one is a written email. It says, Hello, Bridger

1465
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: and guest, I need some advice about something that happened

1466
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: over a decade ago. When my husband and I first

1467
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: got married, we lived with my in laws for a

1468
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,959
Speaker 2: couple of years while saving to buy our own place.

1469
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: For that first Christmas, we bought them a Soda Stream

1470
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 2: soda maker. Soda Stream Soda Maker. It was really expensive

1471
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: for us at the time, but my father in law

1472
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: was addicted to diet coke, so we thought he'd like it.

1473
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: Fast forward a year later and we were trying to

1474
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: decide what to get them for Christmas again. While searching

1475
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: for Christmas decorations in their garage, we saw the maker

1476
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: with the gift receipt still attached to the top. We

1477
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: were still so poor and they hadn't used the gift,

1478
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 2: so we did the unthinkable. We returned the Soda Stream

1479
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: Maker to buy them a new gift for that Christmas.

1480
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: A couple months after Christmas, my mother in law brought

1481
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: up the maker and we actively helped her to look

1482
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: for it. To this day, she brings it up about

1483
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: once a year, wondering where it went. Has it been

1484
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 2: long enough that we tell her the truth or will

1485
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: we go to hell? EXO, very guilty daughter in law

1486
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: thirteen years after the fact. This is interesting.

1487
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: That's guilty. That's very guilty, daughter in law. I'm going

1488
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: to hell. We're all I'm going to hell. Baby, Damn.

1489
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: Wow, what the hell stands a chance?

1490
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: Geez, she thought about it. I can't imagine having enough

1491
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: space and your conscience for something like that.

1492
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: To just continually keep you up at night for thirteen

1493
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 2: years for that. No, I'm moving on.

1494
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: Man.

1495
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 3: That's a good That's must be a nice family to.

1496
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: Me in that situation, I'm thinking mother in law is

1497
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: going to hell. I'm fine.

1498
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: That is not a person who is in the entertainment industry.

1499
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: This person could not cut it now.

1500
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: That person has too loved, way too loved to abuse

1501
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 3: themselves on a daily basis by working in the most

1502
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 3: rotten industry that's ever existed.

1503
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: This person has thought about another person enough to email

1504
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: about them.

1505
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 3: There are like professional hangmen who have less going on.

1506
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 2: I totally support this. Yeah, I think it was just

1507
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 2: being wasted in the garage. They were trying to send

1508
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 2: you a sign.

1509
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 3: I want to know what's up with this mother in law?

1510
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 3: What is she thinking?

1511
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: Why is she still thinking about this thing she's wear

1512
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: with this thing that's probably fifty dollars. Go buy one,

1513
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 2: you psycho.

1514
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 3: Have a good laugh about that. It's over Christmas morning.

1515
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 3: You had some coffee, maybe you've had an early toddy.

1516
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 2: Everyone's so drunk.

1517
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 3: They're not This is not a drinking family. I feel like.

1518
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: I feel like I mean me in this situation. If

1519
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 2: I feel that guilty, I'm going to buy a new

1520
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: one and putting it back and then being like, oh,

1521
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: let's go look one more time thirteen years after. Oh,

1522
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: there it is. I have such fools.

1523
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 3: I have zero guilt with that kind of stuff. Like

1524
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 3: I would be like, oh, I can't even imagine the

1525
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 3: situation that I would even remain un set, Like it'll

1526
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 3: be instantaneous. It'd be like the second I find it,

1527
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 3: But why the hell is this? You haven't used it?

1528
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 3: We bought this for you.

1529
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: Don't you know what we're going through.

1530
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 3: I don't understand people who have that thing with their

1531
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 3: family where they're so like like kid gloves it's your family,

1532
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 3: you say it right away.

1533
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: Oh, you're not in my family.

1534
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't imagine that.

1535
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: A lot of communication issues in the Wyneger family. Wow,

1536
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 2: a lot of like just keeping it to yourself as

1537
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 2: long as possible. You have a very open family.

1538
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 3: I guess.

1539
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: But it's a healthy thing to do.

1540
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 3: It's good and bad though, like the whole thing when

1541
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 3: people are oh, I don't want to I don't know

1542
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: if I want to do this because my dad will

1543
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 3: not be happy. It's like, who gives a shit what

1544
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: they think? That's healthy, I guess, but it's also kind

1545
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 3: of like, well, they're so fucked up they won't go

1546
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 3: to therapy, so who gives us shit what they say?

1547
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: These these are crazy people who are like lying about

1548
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff, manipulating, Like I don't care what

1549
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 3: they think.

1550
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: That's such a good way to look at things.

1551
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but my family they're so messed up, like my parents,

1552
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 3: like they're they're just so deeply you know what I mean.

1553
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 3: They're so mired in all kinds of old bullshit that like,

1554
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: how could you possibly give a shit what they think

1555
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 3: about anything that you're doing. They're like a different century.

1556
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: You know, like they care's a different way of thinking.

1557
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 3: They're like from a time when when you go to

1558
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 3: a hotel, you'd leave the hotel because you have to

1559
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 3: You can't be there for turn down. You have to

1560
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 3: go out for dinner and you you know what I mean,

1561
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 3: like all these like what.

1562
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 2: Is operating your life? What sort of rules are you playing?

1563
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 3: Sadly, I think this ancient thing.

1564
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: Wait, we don't do that anymore.

1565
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 3: They're operating by pre ice rules back when, like you know,

1566
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 3: you weren't able to provide yourself your own drink cold drink. Ugh,

1567
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 3: I just can't understand. That drives me crazy.

1568
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this person's I mean, they should have let them know.

1569
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: And if not by now, I think Steph have a

1570
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 2: laugh also, or maybe just reverse the guilt at this

1571
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 2: point and say, didn't you know what we were going through.

1572
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: We scrimped and saved for you and then you just

1573
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 2: kept that thing in the garage. You could have been

1574
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: having unlimited diet coke on us and meanwhile at home

1575
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 2: we're splitting a can.

1576
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1577
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: Also, you can't manufacture diet coke no, I mean that's

1578
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 3: the big thing that we can't make a fake the

1579
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: soda stream can't possibly yeah, you can't phenal kinectronics in there. Whatever.

1580
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 3: That stuff's called, the stuff that's all killing us greedy. Yeah,

1581
01:10:59,439 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: what is it called.

1582
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 2: It's a word that I think that on purpose they

1583
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 2: kind of said, don't let anyone be able to pronounce this,

1584
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: otherwise they'll be able to talk about it.

1585
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 3: It's definitely the thing causing I.

1586
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: Mean just probably everything, and I just kind of give

1587
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 2: handed myself a lot of it. Unfortunately not as much

1588
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 2: as because you know, growing up Mormon didn't drink coffee,

1589
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 2: so once coffee came into the situation, that kind of

1590
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 2: made up a lot of my caffeine consumption. But I

1591
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 2: still drink a decent amount of diet coke and I've

1592
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 2: kind of just said to myself, you know what whatever, anthroposcene, anthroposne. Yeah,

1593
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: it's the exact thing.

1594
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 3: It's just I drink it when I'm having a rough

1595
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 3: time on set. You need some caffeine, I go to

1596
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 3: the diet coke because it's the keems.

1597
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 2: Oh you think it's the chems that are helping.

1598
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,440
Speaker 3: I think it's the chemicals in concert with the caffeine

1599
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 3: somehow that is like the thing that helps you pull through.

1600
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 3: It's a different type of stimulation.

1601
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 2: I get it is a different It's certainly more than coffee,

1602
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 2: because I can't drink coffee at night night, but I

1603
01:11:59,160 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: can drink diet coke.

1604
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 3: Really die coke will fucking rit me open if.

1605
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 2: Well, this guilty daughter in law, I think should just

1606
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: continue living in guilt until she goes to hell and

1607
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 2: just waste her life.

1608
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 3: I can't believe that the shame involved in it's just nothing.

1609
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 3: The fact that that registers what a nice person I know, sweet,

1610
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 3: what a nice person? Gosh.

1611
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, thirteen years have no soda stream for anybody

1612
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 2: in years. I feel like there were a lot of

1613
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: answers this whole time, and she waits for a podcast

1614
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: to come along to finally get her answer. She's got

1615
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: to get a control of her family and herself. I

1616
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: don't know what to say, Steph, Well, I have another

1617
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: useful item from you.

1618
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: This is uh.

1619
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: I'll just keep asking you on every couple of years

1620
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: until my life is fixed, and then we'll end to

1621
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:54,879
Speaker 2: the podcast.

1622
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1623
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,799
Speaker 2: I don't know what else I could do with myself.

1624
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 2: I already got an eyelash on here. No nuts, it's

1625
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: probably a dog here and it was part of the

1626
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: Fiskers brand.

1627
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Fisker Whisker.

1628
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 2: That trademark Fisker Whisker. Well, thank you for being here,

1629
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 2: thank you for having me.

1630
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,879
Speaker 3: It was a wonderful time listener.

1631
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 2: I always enjoy listener. The podcast is over. We're pulling

1632
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: the over lever. It's done. Move get doing something else.

1633
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: I love you, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an

1634
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and

1635
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme

1636
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 2: song is by miracle worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't

1637
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: do it without our booker, Patrick Coottner. You must follow

1638
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 2: the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts, that's

1639
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

1640
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,839
Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?

1641
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: Did you hear?

1642
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: Funamin Missille? Perfectly clear? But you're a guess to my home.

1643
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:12,799
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty And I said, no, guess,

1644
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: your own presence is presents enough. I already had too

1645
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me