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Speaker 4: Lasay Yes, and welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices.

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Speaker 1: I'm Erica and I'm Mela, and we're in a fucking

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Speaker 1: sex toy facility, so.

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Speaker 2: It's very appropriate for hump day, baby.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Happy fucking hump Day.

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Speaker 5: We're super pumped because we're in a room full of

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Speaker 5: sex toys and you know how we feel about sex.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you want to see this video,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go on our Patreon and watch

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Speaker 1: this video because you don't want.

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Speaker 4: To miss what's behind us.

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Speaker 5: Right now, behind the scenes only on Patreon. We're here

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Speaker 5: today with c o O himself.

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Speaker 2: Chat, Yeah, Bravery, you gotta get the Jewish, put my

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Speaker 2: Jewish on.

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Speaker 1: And of Doc Johnson, of Doc Johnson manufacturer in the

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Speaker 1: motherfucking world us. You get him a bitch next Toy Royalty,

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Speaker 1: Sex Toy King, Prince Prince, Prince King Jr.

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Speaker 3: Show some respect, respect for Pops.

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Speaker 2: So Chad, how are you?

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Speaker 6: Oh man, I'm beautiful. It's a beautiful day.

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Speaker 5: Chad has just taken us on an extensive tour of

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Speaker 5: the Doc Johnson facility, which Erica and I were like

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Speaker 5: fucking four year old at Disneyland, and he tolerated that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I'm very used to that reality. Okay, I'm very used

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Speaker 6: to it.

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Speaker 2: At this point, I was thinking, he thinks we're such

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Speaker 2: fucking nerds. Jesus we are.

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Speaker 1: But also I'm so excited because you know, you go

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Speaker 1: to like sex sex shops and you know, either it's

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Speaker 1: very limited or you just don't. It's not every day

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Speaker 1: you get to tour a sex facility. Sure, sex toy facility.

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Speaker 6: There aren't many of them. That's the thing.

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Speaker 3: That's why I know when people come here, they get excited,

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Speaker 3: and I it because no one else has this, Like

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Speaker 3: there are other companies that make sex toys, but they

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Speaker 3: don't manufacture them.

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Speaker 4: They manufactured, they buy them.

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Speaker 3: From China, they make them overseas, and like, look, they

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Speaker 3: design them, they do their thing. No, sort of like

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking shit about them, but like they don't

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Speaker 3: manufacture the product. They're not hands on, and we are,

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Speaker 3: like we've been manufacturing since nineteen seventy six. And when

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Speaker 3: you come here, like you guys just did, it's like

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Speaker 3: Willy Wonka. It's like I'm giving you an actual tour

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Speaker 3: of a facility, not of a shipping warehouse, and being like, oh,

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Speaker 3: there's sex toys in all those corrugated boxes right there.

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Speaker 3: It's like, no, you're actually watching product getting made. So

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Speaker 3: like when you see that with your own eyes, all

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Speaker 3: this time that you might have been buying sex toys

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Speaker 3: or going to sex stores, you don't know where they're made.

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Speaker 3: Like you never thought you'd actually even be able to

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Speaker 3: pull that curtain back. So that's that's what's cool about

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Speaker 3: being here.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 5: They just dawned on me because I never considered any

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Speaker 5: of that shit when purchasing my sex toys because I'm

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Speaker 5: not a huge masturbator.

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Speaker 2: I don't have like a huge inventory.

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Speaker 5: But I was just watching this show about like black

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Speaker 5: market and like made in China, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 5: don't know, I want my sex toys coming from a facility.

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Speaker 4: That oh yeah, there's like a bunch of.

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Speaker 5: Toxic ship and weird things and like who knows, like Salmoniliadiliamila.

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Speaker 4: I don't want.

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Speaker 2: Your building, never know. So oh god.

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Speaker 5: So basically what I'm saying is Doc Johnson is the

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Speaker 5: only way to go because it's American maid, and we

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Speaker 5: saw where it's made. It's very clean, everyone's wearing hairnets

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Speaker 5: and smells good.

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Speaker 6: I like that.

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Speaker 1: And we are here now, and we were here now,

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Speaker 1: so you own a piece of it.

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Speaker 2: Came came once.

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Speaker 1: Jamila has already volunteered her vagina for molding. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if anyone out there wants a vagina of Jimmy molded

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Speaker 1: Jamala's China, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, literally honestly coming.

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Speaker 5: Or you know, if you just want to our two

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Speaker 2: Could do that too. We've made it. There's many options. Chat.

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Speaker 6: So when you say you're not a big masturbate or

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Speaker 6: what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Erica always has to remind me you just undersold yourself

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Speaker 1: and then offered your services.

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Speaker 2: So I offered my vagina, which is great.

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Speaker 5: I said, I don't masturbate, but my vagina's great for

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Speaker 5: a small fee.

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Speaker 2: I don't really masturbate a lot.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it has to do with like

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Speaker 5: being shamed in childhood, because I don't like, maybe I got.

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Speaker 2: Caught once or something, but I prefer to have sex

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Speaker 2: with you get caught ones.

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Speaker 5: I feel like maybe I did, or like it was

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Speaker 5: just a secret thing I told you. I found my parents'

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Speaker 5: motion lotion, which now I know is made at Doc Johnson,

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Speaker 5: Remember the one you can blow on and it gets hot. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. It just takes me a lot to

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Speaker 5: want to masturbate. I'd rather just like go through my

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Speaker 5: Rolodex since he was available, which is probably not healthy either.

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Speaker 1: Well, in honor of our meeting with Chat, I've definitely

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Speaker 1: indulged last night with.

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Speaker 4: The I vibe I rock wait now yeah yeah irock.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 4: I'm enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: I have literally FaceTime multiple friends. Actually, when when I

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Speaker 1: got it, I called Jamila immediately and she was doing

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Speaker 1: lashes on someone and I was like, I need to

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Speaker 1: talk to you, and I facetimed her and I was like,

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Speaker 1: this is not a good time. She's like no, and

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Speaker 1: then I called her back and the fucking thing moves.

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Speaker 1: It's like, fucks you the dick. Well, I just have

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Speaker 1: never seen something like that. I was just like, wow,

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Speaker 1: Doc Johnson is next level with their ship. Well, very innovative.

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Speaker 2: Doc Johnson was so so kind to send us things.

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Speaker 5: I got the ee Vibe, and I vibe with the

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Speaker 5: ee Vibe because I don't masturbate like that, but I

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Speaker 5: put it on. I was like, oh shit, okay, okay, Doc.

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Speaker 2: You don't. So now I think I'm gonna masturbate more,

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Speaker 2: I hope.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm always always encouraging Jamila to masturbate.

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Speaker 5: More because Erica will dip off in any time of

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Speaker 5: the day into her room and masturbate with anybody.

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Speaker 2: In the living room.

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Speaker 5: I don't care which I commend you for, because I

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Speaker 4: I gotta do what I gotta do.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, masturbation really takes the edge off

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Speaker 1: of my stress. So it's a stress reliever.

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Speaker 6: What about you.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I've masturbated, not even because I was horny. I

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Speaker 1: was just irritated and I just needed to take the

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Speaker 1: great solution.

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Speaker 4: It really is.

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Speaker 6: I think if I was a female, I would masterbate

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Speaker 6: even more.

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Speaker 4: Why but I feel like men masturbate more than I think.

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Speaker 6: Men do masturbate more, but in terms.

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Speaker 3: Of ability to maybe just go and get a quick

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Speaker 3: session in guys obviously have like a clean up situation

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Speaker 3: and just sort of like different things.

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Speaker 4: I feel like your guys' ship is way more easy.

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Speaker 2: I have seen guys come on the floor and it's

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Speaker 2: like a girl, we gotta lay down.

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Speaker 5: I only see a guy like come on the carpet

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Speaker 5: and keep put it back.

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Speaker 2: In his fans only that I just feel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like girls like it's more of a

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Speaker 1: ret least for me, Like I got to find the

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Speaker 4: I might have ye down.

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Speaker 2: Somewhere, like it has to be mental state as.

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Speaker 4: You can like stand up. It's like peeing literally.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a personal thing too. Like for me,

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Speaker 3: I do have to be more in the right place. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if I know then I'm in an area where like

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Speaker 3: at a certain time, Like it might take me five

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Speaker 6: Say, right, like on a regular day.

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Speaker 3: But if I know someone's coming home in twenty five minutes,

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Speaker 3: I won't be able to match.

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Speaker 6: I'll be like I won't have.

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Speaker 2: Enough time if you walk in, or it's going to

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Speaker 6: Literally put a note on the door not to come.

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Speaker 2: In that Oh my gosh, I know. Wait, he's the king.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you come back?

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Speaker 6: You guys would love him come back.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of your dad, not to like get from your

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Speaker 1: masturbations to your father. I always in researching the history

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Speaker 1: of doc Johnson, Yes, I found that you guys know,

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Speaker 1: were founded in nineteen seventy six. How did your dad

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Speaker 1: get into creating sex toys? Like it seemed like very

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Speaker 1: much of a taboo type of industry to enter into,

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Speaker 1: especially at that time, Like what was this aha moment

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Speaker 1: where he was like I'm gonna start making penises.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for him, it was just sort of

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Speaker 3: depending on what you think of you know, our industry

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Speaker 3: uh just that for a job and it was basically

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Speaker 3: you know, magazines and some of like the VHS that

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Speaker 6: But he was good worker.

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Speaker 3: He's very like motivated and he's he's that type of personality,

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Speaker 3: like he's a worker b and was running magazines and

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Speaker 1: Like magazines and videos like porn, so adult stores and

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Speaker 1: you know, back then it was the you know, it

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Speaker 3: we're doing all the like newdy magazines and the little

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Speaker 6: There was something even before VHS that I can't really remember.

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Speaker 4: When I like I remember like block that Blockbuster like.

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Speaker 3: Way before a Blockbuster. This was like mostly for adult

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Speaker 6: And he really liked that they were focusing on product there.

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Speaker 4: Were they already making sex toys then or they weren't.

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Speaker 4: Got it.

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Speaker 3: So he bought that company and started making sex toys.

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Speaker 6: Like what was like the.

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Speaker 3: Uh this we call it the two hundred because it

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Speaker 6: We had a lot of products all at one time.

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Speaker 3: Dong is just a dildo got no balls or anything

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Speaker 6: The truth is, if you look at our first catalog,

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Speaker 3: I mean, we had like almost two hundred products from

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Speaker 1: Where did the name Doc Johnson come from?

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Speaker 3: So at the time that Ron started the business, Johnson

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Speaker 3: Doc he felt like, you know, this business started as

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Speaker 2: Was like your marriage marital basically.

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Speaker 3: So he wanted to do something that felt familiar but

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Speaker 4: And also Johnson goes hand in hand.

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Speaker 3: With Yeah, he says, that wasn't the case. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't around.

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Speaker 5: of meet him while he had already been in this industry.

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Speaker 3: She met him while he was already in the industry

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Speaker 6: He had been in the business.

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Speaker 3: For a little while, but he didn't know Doc Johnson

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Speaker 6: I guess to some.

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Speaker 5: Degree, was your mom kind of like what am I

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Speaker 2: Or she was all about it time, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: And also explaining to your family I want marrying the guy,

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Speaker 3: Sells, Yeah, it's interesting because my mom it's almost like

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Speaker 3: sort of Roman Catholic upbringing Italian family. She thought my

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Speaker 3: not because back then I don't think she realized that

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Speaker 6: So found out he was an Italian.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I guess he made an impression because

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Speaker 6: Never mind too.

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Speaker 3: She ended up actually having like a very serious relationship

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Speaker 6: And so.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting tale that I don't know that I

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Speaker 6: And I don't know that either one of them did either.

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Speaker 3: I had a relationship that worked long term, but like

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Speaker 3: it had its moments.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, long time, longer than they were together.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Okay, did your dad be married?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Multiple times? Okay, multiple times?

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Speaker 2: Is he married now?

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Speaker 3: He is y?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, N likes marriage.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad at him. I'm not mad at him.

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Speaker 2: What doesn't work? Keep it moving. Next, You're the only child.

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Speaker 6: I'm the only child of wrongs. Oh yeah, I do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Erica, it's technically my stepsister, I mean, just you know, for.

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Speaker 6: But and she works in the business as well, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: She doesn't work with us directly anymore, but she still

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Speaker 2: Ron and no longer is busy.

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Speaker 6: Ron's doing his thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad at her.

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Speaker 1: So I read that growing up, you thought that because

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Speaker 1: your parents didn't weren't totally open with you about what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, which isous.

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Speaker 3: Definitely as a kid who also grew up like mob obsessed,

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Speaker 6: That stuff, Like, I just knew that.

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Speaker 3: I just knew at a certain point in my life

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Speaker 6: For work, which I thought was weird. Well, the story

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Speaker 3: What do we call it, like health and wellness? Like

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Speaker 6: Just ran the gamut of things from like hair dryers

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Speaker 3: But also my dad used to say import export a lot,

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Speaker 1: But a year old kid automatically mafia were export, import.

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Speaker 3: Export to Cindy is a ten year old kid who

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Speaker 3: they were in Wall Street stockbroker, they were they owned

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Speaker 6: Whatever it was.

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Speaker 3: It was like, I get that job, I understand it.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're a teacher there. And then my dad

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Speaker 3: And I also knew that we had money, Like I

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Speaker 6: But I knew my dad did stuff every day.

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Speaker 4: But you never went to the office or saw where

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Speaker 3: Was also led to another part of my like why

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Speaker 3: it was it was more like, yeah, let's like let's

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't just kind of like something so that

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Exactly anymore, because you know how like you remember these

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Speaker 6: So I was at an age where I knew that

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Speaker 3: I knew what a penis looked like, and I knew

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Speaker 3: But I also know that I was not nearly of

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Speaker 3: of just like kept it to myself that like I

448
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 3: had seen these penises and that like I had seen

449
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,479
Speaker 3: this like stuff, and I was just kind of like,

450
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: I just kind of lived with that, which is probably

451
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 3: why I'm so fucked up today.

452
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: So what was the final moment where it was revealed?

453
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 4: And how did they tell you?

454
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: So another sort of situation where you know depends on

455
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 3: who you asked the story to. The honest answer is

456
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 3: he still has not told me what he.

457
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 2: Does to market.

458
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a step Like I said, I had

459
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: a stepbrother growing up who was like five years older

460
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 3: than me. So it was a pretty big age difference

461
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 3: at that time in your life. So I think when

462
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 3: he was like seventeen, I was twelve, I was over

463
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 3: He obviously lived with my dad and his mom, and

464
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 3: I did not.

465
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 6: I lived with my mom, so I was over there.

466
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 6: One weekend, I was with a buddy of.

467
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 3: Mine and again, because no one knew what my dad did,

468
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 3: this buddy of mine asked me, again, what does your

469
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 3: dad do? And I gave him the sexual, not the sexual,

470
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 3: the fucking health and BEAUTIAID story.

471
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 6: And my seventeen year old step brother was like, that's

472
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 6: not what your dad does for a living. And I

473
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 6: was like, wait, what do you mean?

474
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 3: And he goes, dad makes fake dicks and pussies for

475
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: a living and.

476
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm, oh God, and I.

477
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 3: Was like I knew it, you know, like I'm like,

478
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 3: I fucking knew it. So that was kind of and

479
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: I didn't know it, you know, like I knew it,

480
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: but I hadn't been told it and I hadn't asked it.

481
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: But I did know it when he said it, So

482
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 3: it was like almost confirmation of things that I had

483
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: overheard along the way.

484
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 6: And I was like twelve thirteen.

485
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: Years old, so I was definitely of an age where

486
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 3: I started to piecemeal things together and I knew what

487
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: sex was.

488
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 6: I knew what penises were, I knew what vaginas were, so.

489
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: Like, grow it.

490
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: So your dad is running this in like this massive

491
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: in like sex toy business. Did your parents ever really

492
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: what was the talk of sex in your house? Like,

493
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: did you guys ever talk about se Nothing?

494
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,719
Speaker 6: There really wasn't any thing. I mean, it wasn't.

495
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: Like again, my parents were split up at a very

496
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: young age, like literally one years old, so like I

497
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: lived my mom my whole life. And I think obviously

498
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,239
Speaker 3: we probably had a semi weird relationship in terms of

499
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: just how.

500
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 6: Close we were.

501
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 3: Because it was just the two of us and but

502
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 3: also sometimes when you're that close, you're almost you're also

503
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: very protected. There really wasn't a sex Really, there wasn't

504
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 3: a sex conversation between her and I.

505
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 6: At any point in time.

506
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: And when I think back on it, neither with with

507
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: with with my dad.

508
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 6: I mean I felt like it was it was a

509
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 6: different era.

510
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm on, I'm the last node Internet generation, you know,

511
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 3: so like the way that I grew up, no one

512
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: else really grew up that way ever. Again, like even

513
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 3: you guys are five years younger than me, I think

514
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: or something, right, So like even you guys, it's a

515
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: little bit of a different generation. Like we're close, but

516
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 3: you grew up with more Internet than I did, and

517
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: you just had ways of learning stuff that I didn't

518
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: have ways of learning. So like parents could just straight

519
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 3: up lie to your and like it was so much easier.

520
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 3: And I also think because the information wasn't accessible, we

521
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: also just didn't know to ask questions, right, Like we

522
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: didn't know like we I didn't know to ask a question.

523
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 6: I was just like you'll be told something when you're

524
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 6: told it.

525
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: Otherwise just shut the fuck up, keep moving, you know,

526
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 3: And like so that's just a difference. I mean, like

527
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: that's just I don't you know, And my dad was

528
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: able to just tell people whatever he wanted to tell them,

529
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 3: and there was no way for them to find out.

530
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 5: That's so interesting, Like the Internet makes such a difference,

531
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like obviously, yeah, we came

532
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 5: in at like when we're like eleven twelve, when AOL

533
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 5: started popping up and instant Messenger. But because we have

534
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 5: all this access to the Internet and because of social

535
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 5: and because of this all this other shit, like we

536
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 5: have terms like sex positive parenting.

537
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 7: And yeah, there's a different yeah, of course, but I

538
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 7: still find it interesting that your dad, you know, he

539
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 7: works in this industry and it is definitely a very

540
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 7: I would say, you know, it's extensive.

541
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 4: It's extensive. There's a lot of things happening here. You

542
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 4: have to be an expert. You're talking sex.

543
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: I would imagine that these talking sex products a lot

544
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: and sex because you have to kind of understand sex

545
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: in order to create these products. That then talking with

546
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: your kids and preparing them for sex in any way

547
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: is kind of taboo because of the time that he

548
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: grew up in. But yet he's surrounded with this environment

549
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: on a on a regular basis, So like it's just

550
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: interesting that like those conversations never happened.

551
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 6: I would say, did you figure out.

552
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: You figured out sex on your own then? And like

553
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: sex toys like sex toys, did you have an education

554
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: on like how the toys worked? Like was this something

555
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: your dad went around?

556
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 4: Like the sun? So this one, this.

557
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: Is does this?

558
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: So when you're selling this product, because I think about

559
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: me and my mom, you know, like you know, I'm

560
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: in a from family business as well.

561
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 4: Obviously not sex, it's beauty.

562
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: But my mom is a professional makeup artist and she's

563
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: shown me the ropes of makeup. And it's a less

564
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 1: awkward conversation.

565
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: This is an anal plug son, this goes the butt.

566
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's I mean, you know really,

567
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: I think when I started working here, it just.

568
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 4: How old were you started working here?

569
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 6: Too?

570
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: Started working here the summer after eighth grade, so like

571
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 3: going into ninth grade, I started working here, you know,

572
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: fake work, but work. I mean I started in the

573
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: shipping department and I worked. I mean I did. Obviously

574
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 3: I also had summer vacation and I did other things.

575
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 3: But like I came in here Monday through Friday and like,

576
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 3: I worked a full day, and I worked here every

577
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: summer until I started working here full time in two

578
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 3: thousand and four. So every summer through high school and

579
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: every summer through college, I would come home and work

580
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: for the summer. I pretty much worked in every single

581
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 3: department that we have here, because we have a lot

582
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: of departments because again, we manufacture and we do a

583
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: lot of things in house, so we have a lot

584
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: of different departments. It's not just like purchasing and accounting

585
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 3: and sales and marketing, it's all these other things as

586
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: well that actually make the ship run. So that's where

587
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: he started me, is like you need to know how

588
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: this organization sort of runs from like the bottom up,

589
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: you know, and what actually is, like, what actually makes

590
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: this organization tick is everything behind these walls, you know,

591
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: all of our manufacturing and our shipping and our receiving.

592
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 2: And so you always knew or he was grooming you

593
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: too well.

594
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 3: He always said to me from the beginning is you

595
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: don't have to work for me, but you have to

596
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: have a job like that that he grew up having

597
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: jobs over the summer. And you know, I think again,

598
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 3: because I grew up from a very different cut of

599
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: cloth than he did, because he's sort of first generation.

600
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 6: Wealthy, whatever word you want to put to it.

601
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: I think he wanted to instill certain things in me

602
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: of like, look, I grew up working in the summer.

603
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 6: You're going to grow up working the summer.

604
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 3: Just because you have way more things than I ever

605
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: had growing up, you still have to have this sort

606
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: of like balance and this sort of like groundedness in

607
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: your life.

608
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 6: So of course I wasn't stupid. I'm like, well, I'm

609
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 6: i'll work for somebody else.

610
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna work for you because I can get away

611
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 3: with way more work for you than I can for

612
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: somebody else who's really going to be a prick to me.

613
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 3: And then I think it became one of those things

614
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: where it's like, yeah, well, if I figure out what

615
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 3: I want to do with my life, then I'll go

616
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 3: and do that. And if I don't, or if I

617
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: decide that this is what I want to do with

618
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: my life, then I will have some incredible education moving

619
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: into that. Having worked here for so long so every summer,

620
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: I think it became the same thing, which was why

621
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: would I not work here and continue to learn this business.

622
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 3: I think being an only child and having this being

623
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 3: a one generation old company. As I got older and

624
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: a little bit more sort of wiser, it became like, well,

625
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: if I don't take this over, then who is? And

626
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: I also felt like I had some real things that

627
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: I wanted to do here in this business, and so

628
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: it kind of as I went to business school in college,

629
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: it became more like.

630
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 6: That's really where I'm going to head. So then it

631
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 6: became a decision that I made of like, all right,

632
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 6: this is what I'm going to do.

633
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: Partially also because I didn't necessarily find something that I

634
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: was like really passionate about outside of like I felt

635
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: like I wanted to be in business, So then it

636
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: became like, well, why would I not be in this business?

637
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: It's fun business, it's fun, it is successful, but it

638
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: also is at risk. Like it's not like a ten

639
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: generational company that's just like this machine and I just

640
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: need to come in and kind of just like completely.

641
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 6: Not fuck it up.

642
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: It's like I actually have like a real job here

643
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: that I have to do on a day to day

644
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: basis in order to make this company run or this

645
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: company will just close, you know, So that's something that

646
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: you know is important to me, and kind of like

647
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: the legacy of the business also being able to pass

648
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: it down again if if if I want to or

649
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: if the next generation wants to take it over.

650
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 6: But if I didn't do that, there wouldn't even be

651
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 6: that option.

652
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: Right, right, So it kind of became one of those

653
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: like pressure things in some degree as well as like

654
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: if you don't do it, no one else will and

655
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: that's the.

656
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 6: End of that.

657
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 5: Now that you've taken you know you're take you've taken over.

658
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 5: And maybe it wasn't initially something sex toys weren't something

659
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: you're passionate about because of the industry.

660
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: Are you more.

661
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 5: Sexually open and kinky because I mean you're pushing sex toys.

662
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I'm.

663
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: I think I'm as sexually open as you can possibly get. Mentally,

664
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: I don't know necessarily how kinky I am in my

665
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: day to day life, but it's just like there's nothing

666
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: that's weird to me. There's nothing that you could say

667
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: to me that would like turn me off or freak

668
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: me out or like any of that type of stuff.

669
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 3: So in terms of like the mental aspect of it,

670
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: like I just I've seen it all and I've heard

671
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: it all, and there's just nothing weird or like strange

672
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: to me anymore. How much of it do I do

673
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: I partake of in my sex life? Probably one percent, right,

674
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: you know? So yeah, I mean that's kind of a.

675
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: When you were growing up, how did you deal with like,

676
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: because kids can be cruel and weird and be like

677
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: your dad sells dicks?

678
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: How did you know that?

679
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean I would imagine that at some point, you know,

680
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: you were really popular because of it, and like you

681
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: gave like the best gifts ever. But then at some

682
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: point too, like they're like, you know, it's it's an interesting.

683
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 6: I think industry to me.

684
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: And we actually interviewed this couple who's are poor porn

685
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: stars and they have kids, and obviously you're not.

686
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: A porn star, but you know you never have you

687
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 4: have you molded yourself?

688
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, like yeah, like explaining that and navigating that

689
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: as a teenager or even like in eighth grade.

690
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think I got lucky. I think

691
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: for sure, I went to a small private school in

692
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: Los Angeles. I had, you know, a really good group

693
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: of friends. Before any of this became knowledge to anybody,

694
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: I think that I had a very strong sense of

695
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: myself and I had a very strong position at my

696
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: particular school. I was not someone who was like a

697
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: wallflower or someone who before this was sort of picked

698
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: on or bullied or any of that type of stuff.

699
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just some vehicle.

700
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: But again, and I say that fully knowing that it

701
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: was like big fish, small pond, you know. And I

702
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: think that there's a lot of schools in LA that

703
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: I could have gone to where that would have been

704
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: a completely different situation, you know, And that would have

705
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: been a thousand kids in your grade and you're popular

706
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: maybe in your one group of friends, but not in

707
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: the actual scheme of things. Right, So, by the time

708
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: it became knowledge, there really wasn't anywhere for me to

709
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: sort of like it wasn't that wasn't going to change

710
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: in my life. And it didn't change in my life.

711
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: I mean maybe behind my back there was things said

712
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: about me or whatnot, but nothing that ever changed how I.

713
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 6: Lived on a day to day basis.

714
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: When I went to college, for me, it was already

715
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm eighteen years old, and I made it a very

716
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: concerted effort to be like, this is what I do,

717
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: this is what my family does, because I don't care

718
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: anymore and also like, if you don't like this, or

719
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: if this is weird to you, or if we're not

720
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: going to like be friends because of this, let's fucking

721
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: find out right now, because I don't want to like

722
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: play that game with you at all. And I think

723
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: that also comes from just having not known for so

724
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: long and understanding why my parents did lie to everybody,

725
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: including myself. I was almost like, oh, I'm going to

726
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: take the exact opposite approach, and I'm going to be

727
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 3: very in your face about it, and if you love it,

728
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: cool and if you don't, fuck it. But of course,

729
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: at eighteen years old, everyone loved it and everyone just

730
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: wanted product, and they thought I was the coolest person

731
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: in the world because of it, not in spite of it.

732
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: Right, So, you know, how do you plan on having

733
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: this discussion with you have a one and a half

734
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: year old?

735
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, new dad, Yeah, how's that going? Yeah one and

736
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 6: a half year old?

737
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: Ih, my baby's five. I'm still gonna used to be sleeping's.

738
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 4: Like me to the night. Yeah.

739
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: In that aspect of things, it's been like amazing. He's

740
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: like perfectly like sleep trained from like three months, sleeping

741
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: through the night and just crushing life in that regard,

742
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: it's funny because even I know I'm so lucky that

743
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: even well rested to like I think new parents is

744
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: still so different.

745
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 6: Than what well rested used to me. But because I.

746
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: Also am a little bit crazy with it too, just

747
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: in the sense of like I don't sleep anywhere near.

748
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 6: As soundly as I ever slept before.

749
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: Ever sounds you hear, or just even the popping up

750
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: to check real quick on like the monitor or like

751
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: the noises coming from the monitor, And that's just a

752
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: different lifestyle, and it's just there's no going back, and

753
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: it's it's just different and you'll never be the same.

754
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: I don't think, like that's why parents get up so early.

755
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Four and a half now, I heard something in the

756
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: middle of the night, like creak in the deepest sleep ever,

757
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: was like in the midst of dreaming, And I.

758
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, it's just it's different talking or sleep

759
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: a lot.

760
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 5: It's it's like fighty senses, but it's like parent senses. Yeah,

761
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 5: suddenly I'll look at at three o'clock like she needs to.

762
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: But but uh, in regards to the conversation, I mean, honestly,

763
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: I have no clue because he's going to know again,

764
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 3: way before I would have ever known. I mean, he'll

765
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 3: know probably by like what six or seven or eight

766
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: years old, just because he'll be able to use the internet.

767
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he's already on a fucking iPad and he

768
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: like he we don't really let him do it, but

769
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: like he when he gets in front of it, he

770
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: understands it fully already at a year and a half,

771
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: Like he understands like the home button and like where

772
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 3: to touch things and like how to make things come on.

773
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: So I mean, like, what's that going to take another

774
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 3: couple of years before he's like fully understanding obviously parental controls.

775
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 6: And all that other sort of stuff. But it's just tough.

776
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how I'm going to do

777
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: it or when I'm going to do it, but I

778
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: know that I don't have anywhere near the leeway that

779
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: like my dad had or anything like that. Like that's

780
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: out the window for me.

781
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: But I mean, would you even want to do that?

782
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think of that effect in a

783
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: negative way?

784
00:35:59,120 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know.

785
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: I haven't reconciled yet how I feel about it in

786
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: terms of protection, because I don't know how he's going

787
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: to grow up.

788
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 6: I don't know where he's going to go to school.

789
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 6: I don't know all these other features. Now. Granted, it's

790
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 6: way less taboo, way.

791
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: More mainstream, and way more talked about today than it

792
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: was when I was growing up. But you know, I

793
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: think once you become a dad, you realize you have

794
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: to protect them at all costs. And so at the

795
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: end of the day, like I don't ever want him

796
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: to be bullied or ridiculed or outcast because of what

797
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: you know, his family does for a living. So it's

798
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: an interesting conversation, and like I said, not one that

799
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: i've fully like reconciled. I know, I don't really have

800
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: a choice, though, so it's going to happen. But if

801
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: I did have a choice, what would I do. I

802
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: don't know, because I do want to just protection is

803
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: all I care about. I feel way better about where

804
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: we are today as a culture and as a society

805
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: within Los Angeles. I should say that based on what

806
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: I do for a living and how that will be

807
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: real by people, But I don't know. You know, when

808
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: I was applying to schools in Los Angeles, nobody knew

809
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: what my dad did. They never judged him, and and

810
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: and and and and also judged me based on that, right,

811
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: Like I was accepted to a school based on merit,

812
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: not based on like, well, so.

813
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 6: We have a guy who does sex toys.

814
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, that's so interesting because I'm applying to

815
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: kindergarten right now, and like they it's so you know,

816
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: la private school kindergartens, some of them I'm applying to,

817
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: and the questions they ask are so I'm like, they're

818
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: like they're very like not intrusive, but they are a

819
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: bit and like they're going to google you and they're

820
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna google me, but they're gonna google you too and

821
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: ask you, like what is it when you have to

822
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: fill out that that description of like what is your

823
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: job title?

824
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 4: What do you write like sex toy.

825
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 6: God, I was playing with the title, but I was

826
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 6: sex toy.

827
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 4: Gud of the sex toys.

828
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you get it.

829
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: I mean, look, they're gonna listen to this. They're gonna

830
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: you know, they're gonna google you. They're gonna listen to

831
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: your podcast. I know, I thought you're going to go

832
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 3: through your history. I mean, that's what's going to happen now.

833
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 3: You know, it all depends on what you're looking for.

834
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 3: And what you want right, but.

835
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 8: It's it's it's a again you have to do what

836
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 8: is right, but it's it's a difficult thing because of

837
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 8: how much information people have at their fingertips today about

838
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 8: you and every.

839
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 6: Little thing you've ever done.

840
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: And as you become more public facing, there's more information

841
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: and there's more chance for missteps or things that people

842
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: might look at negatively. So and I wouldn't say that

843
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: I'm very public facing, but my company is. So then

844
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 3: by extension, I have become as I've sort of become

845
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: the face and the voice of Doc Johnson, I've become

846
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: very public facing, you know. And there's a lot of

847
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: articles with me now, and there's a lot of podcasts

848
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: with me now, and there's a lot of things that

849
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: I've said, and there's a lot.

850
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 6: Of articles and all that other sort of shit.

851
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: So you google Chad Braverman and you're there's a plethor

852
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: of information that's going to pop up. How you deem

853
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: to view that information is going to be different from

854
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: person to person.

855
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 5: I think it's interesting even talking about generation to generation

856
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 5: and like there's less censorship because there's more exposure.

857
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: I think for us there's.

858
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 5: This like there's this line that we throught like that

859
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: we throttle because is that the right word?

860
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: Throttle kind of anyway, you know what I mean.

861
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 5: I think our parents came from a place where everything's

862
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: very hush hush, everything's very private. Why do you have

863
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 5: to tell your business? Don't tell anybody what's going on

864
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 5: in your house, don't tell you, don't go tell your

865
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 5: your friends are business. You know, that's like our mindset.

866
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 5: But as the Internet comes and tweeting and people are

867
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 5: pulling up your shit and there's podcasts and we're talking

868
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 5: all this shit online, there's less there's less privacy, And

869
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 5: I think for us, like our parents taught us to

870
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 5: be hush hushed.

871
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: Sex life's private, certain things are private.

872
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 5: But then there's this part of us that's like wants

873
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 5: to be honest and be who we are, and social

874
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 5: media and all these things, but they can they can

875
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 5: haunt you later.

876
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 3: So the best thing I ever I mean, you've probably

877
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: seen this, but one of the best things I ever

878
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: read was that I forget who said it or where

879
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: it came from, some stupid meme probably or whatever, but

880
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 3: it was like people forget that invisibility was a superpower,

881
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 3: you know, and like today, like no one wants to

882
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: be invisible, right, And it's like, obviously we're all striving

883
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: for certain things, but I don't know about being famous

884
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: or being famous, but being public for a sort of

885
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: a certain measure of success based on if you can

886
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: reach more people, your podcast is going to be more successful, right,

887
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: If I can reach more people, my business.

888
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 6: Is going to be more successful.

889
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: So go down the line with that, right, But how

890
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: you sort of get that information out there and what

891
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: the public wants? And it's like everyone wants information and

892
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: gossip and all this sort of shit. We're just pulling, pulling, pulling, pulling, pulling.

893
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: But like in when we kind of step back from it,

894
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: that that line that like we forgot that invisibility was

895
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 3: a superpower is like really interesting in kind of today's

896
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: world where like no one can kind of be that way,

897
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: and it's almost looked at as like if you say

898
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: you're invisible, it's almost looked at it's like a bad thing.

899
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: I know.

900
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: It's a sense of like no one notices me I'm invisible,

901
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: yeah or yeah right, I mean, or like someone like

902
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: me who has three hundred and is very proud of it.

903
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: We'll follow speaking of like visibility and the sex industry,

904
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: the visibility and the sex industry, I've noticed that obviously

905
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: every industry is led by trends in some way, and

906
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: I see that, you know, I think the sex and

907
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: this quote me I. I mean, I could be totally wrong,

908
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's moving in a way, and

909
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: it's moving in this direction of like social media, and

910
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: obviously women are becoming more empowered to explore their bodies

911
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: and are probably buying sex toys at a much higher

912
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: rate than ever before, whereas before I feel like sex

913
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: toys were generally for men's pleasure or or.

914
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: Men are mostly allowed to be openly sexual.

915
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: Right, and now we see like we were just looking

916
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: over here and Safari has a sex toy with Doc Johnson,

917
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: and me and Jamila were like.

918
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 6: Where do we get Safari's dick?

919
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 4: I can't believe he has a sext?

920
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: I well, it's right here, right, And like, you know,

921
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: we're looking at all these other like you know, you know,

922
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: I like reality television stars that are getting molds of

923
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: their vaginas and things like is the sex industry really

924
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of like with like fifty shades of gray,

925
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: and like social media are those?

926
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: Is that where it's going an influence?

927
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 5: Do you see an influence in your sales and in

928
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 5: certain like requests for certain things because of those type

929
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 5: of because of social media and because of movies and

930
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 5: shit like that.

931
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that you know, main stream

932
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: whatever it's sort of speaking on is going to push

933
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 3: the needle and or I should say move the needle.

934
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: Right.

935
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 6: So, like a fifty Shades.

936
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: Of Gray, for instance, was a very mainstream phenomenon centered

937
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: around BDSM and fetish. So in a very overlooked category

938
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: in our business for a long time was specifically b.

939
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 6: D SEM and fetish.

940
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: There were people that were in it, still a very

941
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: big market, but it wasn't mainstream. So a lot of

942
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: people that maybe would want to get into it or

943
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: explored a little bit were not at all because it

944
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's beauty s i'mon fetish, and that's

945
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: gonna be fucking tie me up in a dungeon. Fifty

946
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: Shades of Gray took that and flipped it on its head,

947
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden, we're selling out of

948
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: fucking ben.

949
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 6: Wa balls and ropes and like the.

950
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: Little balls that you put in like your vagina for

951
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: like kegel exercises.

952
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, like Yonia or whatever.

953
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: Right, that's something like if I had given if I

954
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: had given a girlfriend of mine ben Wa balls ten

955
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: years ago, like she would have like said, what the

956
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: fuck is this for? And then all of a sudden,

957
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 3: the whole world is selling out of ben Wa balls

958
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: because the pickty Shades of Gray, because Christian Gray or

959
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: whatever stuffed these up, fucking Dakota Johnson's fucking pussy and

960
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: then they're like, you know, we're selling out of them.

961
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: So in ropes and all this other sort of stuff

962
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: became really really popularized. If you go back, like twenty

963
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: years ago, it was Sex in the City and the

964
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: four girls on that show were sitting around a table

965
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: talking about masturbation, and they were talking about the rabbit that.

966
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 6: Charlotte had bought.

967
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that rabbit.

968
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: So now all of a sudden, like the rabbit becomes

969
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: the most popular item in the history of the adult industry,

970
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: all because fucking for women. For the first time ever,

971
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: we're seen in portraye sitting around a table talking openly

972
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: about masturbation and talking about vibrators during masturbation and all

973
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: this other sort of stuff and I think what happened

974
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: was people were talking about it, but like you said,

975
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: it was hush hush, and now they brought it out

976
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: into the forefront, and now other women were sitting there

977
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: watching this show, which was a huge show at the time,

978
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: saying like, well, yeah, I masturbate, like I want a

979
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: vibrator like or my girlfriends and I talk about this

980
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 3: stuff too, right, And so it started selling and selling

981
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: and selling, and then it's spawned too this entire category

982
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: of product in our industry called literally the rabbit category.

983
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: I mean it's literally dual vibrators, platoral stimulator with an

984
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: internal shaft, And there's an entire section. You go on

985
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: any adult website in the world and if you go

986
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: to categories, you will see rabbit style vibrators. And that's

987
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 3: all because of Sex and the City twenty years ago.

988
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 3: In regards to some of these products that we're doing,

989
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: I think it just speaks more on sort of the

990
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: branding of it and the mainstream ability of these products today,

991
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: where we're seeing people that are not in our industry

992
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: that are interested and willing to actually create product within

993
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: our industry. So whether it is a full line of

994
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: toys or whether it is something that is actually molded

995
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: from their body part, like Safari for instance.

996
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 6: I mean that was an interesting situation.

997
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: Obviously, Safari had a situation where he had a sort

998
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: of a leaked picture slash I'll leave that the ology,

999
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: and you know, look, guy has a huge fucking cock

1000
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: and everybody saw it.

1001
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 6: And so like, I think we hit them up, they

1002
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 6: hit us up.

1003
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: It was whatever is like they know we can mold

1004
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 3: and we can actually bring that like realistically to the public.

1005
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: So we were able to sit down and like actually

1006
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: pitch him this concept and he was willing to do

1007
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 3: it because it is not as crazy as it was

1008
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: ten to fifteen years ago.

1009
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 6: Feel like those products do well, Yeah, they do great.

1010
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 6: I know I don't think they do well. Yeah, because

1011
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 6: people are a huge part of our business.

1012
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: If you go back to like the traditional stuff like

1013
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: the like the film people that we mold, like the

1014
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: porn stars and stuff like that, right, I mean, the

1015
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 3: concept behind that always was is just bringing the fantasy

1016
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: to real life. So if I'm sitting there watching my

1017
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: favorite female performer, my favorite male performer on on on

1018
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: video on film, on wherever I'm at, I'm on Pornhub

1019
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 3: or whatever, right, I get to actually use the product

1020
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: at the same time. So if I'm not just jerking off,

1021
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 3: which is a fantasy in and of itself, but I'm

1022
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: actually using the product molded based on.

1023
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 6: This person and actually fucking Safari, I'm actually.

1024
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 3: Fucking Safari, or I'm actually fucking you know, Danny Daniels

1025
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: or whoever it is, right, So that was the concept

1026
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: of it. Now we're doing that in other ways as well.

1027
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: So whether it's social media stars, we have this whole

1028
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: line of like social girls of social media who.

1029
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 4: Aren't even in the porn industry, not in the.

1030
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 6: Porn industry at all.

1031
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: I mean, these are girls that you know, are are

1032
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,479
Speaker 3: big on Instagram and in different mediums like Instagram, that

1033
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: we've partnered with to mold their body parts and to

1034
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 3: bring that fantasy, you know, to to customers.

1035
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: So I read somewhere that you sell about seventy six

1036
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: thousand products.

1037
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 6: Per week on out Like, no, we make.

1038
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: Or make about seventy six We make about fifteen to

1039
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 3: twenty thousand a day from this facility. Okay, so yeah,

1040
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: we sell a lot more than that, but we no, no, no,

1041
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, like fro well, we do we do

1042
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 3: make product overseas, and you know, we make about seventy

1043
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: percent of our product here, so thirty percent of our

1044
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: product comes from other areas. But so, yeah, so we

1045
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: make about fifteen to twenty thousand a day out of

1046
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: this facility.

1047
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: Would you say, would you say most of your customer

1048
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: what would are mostly women? Men?

1049
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: Is it fifty to fifty or a shift day?

1050
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 6: We're pretty split.

1051
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 3: I would say that that shifted from probably more male

1052
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: dominated before than it is. But I think because of

1053
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: the the product selection that we have in the categories

1054
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 3: that we that we make product for, we're still heavily split,

1055
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 3: kind of right down the middle at about fifty to fifty.

1056
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: We make a lot of product for men because we

1057
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: do make we have a huge business of like masturbators

1058
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: and strokers and things like that. We also have a

1059
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: major business of gay product, So it's still men right Categorically,

1060
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: if you're going to talk like sexes, it's men, and

1061
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 3: then for women. We also do a lot of product

1062
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 3: for lesbian women and women in general. So it's we're

1063
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: still split about fifty to fifty, but I would say

1064
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: we were probably more about like seventy thirty before male

1065
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 3: to male to female. Wow.

1066
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: Well, as far as products for women, are mostly women

1067
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: making these products? Or is it mostly men that make them?

1068
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: Like how do you go about design that? Even design?

1069
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: Is it just like is there a whole reef Urch

1070
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: department about anatomy?

1071
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 4: Or is it like are these products are being made?

1072
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: Because I would assume that in this in the sex

1073
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: toy industry, historically it's mostly been male men making products

1074
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: for women. Although we did meet Angelie and Johnny in

1075
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: the back, who is actually sculpting like the most beautiful

1076
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: penises I've ever She's literally back there with like a

1077
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: sculpting tool like making veins in the Peanuts. I can't

1078
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: wait to post this picture because it was so cool.

1079
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, how many how many of herd do

1080
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: you have? Or like how does that? How does that

1081
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 1: work when you're creating a product for women, Because I

1082
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: personally feel like sometimes I get vibrators that I'm like,

1083
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: this isn't for me.

1084
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: One vibe doesn't fit all.

1085
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, like my plate is.

1086
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: A little bit higher than maybe someone else, or like

1087
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: it's not reaching it is or it's too short.

1088
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 6: Part of.

1089
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: Why the answer to that question matters and doesn't matter

1090
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: to some degree, so like our brain up a little bit.

1091
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 3: When we have a four person product development team, they

1092
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: actually happen to be all female. We have a five

1093
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: person marketing team, they also happen to be all female.

1094
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: We have a seven person sales team, and that's pretty

1095
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 3: much split like four and three female to male. But

1096
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: is intentional or no, nothing's intentional. It just you know, again,

1097
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 3: it's always just best.

1098
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 6: Higher, right.

1099
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: I think though what we look at it is like

1100
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: we call it like a sexual fingerprint.

1101
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 6: Like you two can be best friends and I will give.

1102
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Speaker 3: You both the same vibrator and it absolutely positively will

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Speaker 3: be the best for the other one. So it's not

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Speaker 6: It was you know for me. Yeah, And that's why

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Speaker 6: in some regards, there is so much product out there.

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Speaker 3: I will say there are products that do have inherent flaws,

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Speaker 3: and there's things that were probably overlooked along the way,

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Speaker 3: we spend a lot of time developing these products. There

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Speaker 3: it is is is we're less interested in like the

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Speaker 3: sort of quintessential did it get you off? We're way

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Speaker 3: more interested in like, how did it feel? Was it

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Speaker 3: these other questions that actually are like easier to determine

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Speaker 3: what gets this person off? And and and have we

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Speaker 3: where you are really talking about anatomically shaped than that

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Speaker 3: is something that we make sure is designed, you know,

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Speaker 3: with the right angles and the right features in the

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Speaker 3: it's just about like are we using the right motor,

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Speaker 3: are we using the right electronics, how we used for

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Speaker 3: the buttons more user friendly, do the buttons work the

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Speaker 3: way that we anticipated them to, how does it charge

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Speaker 3: all these other sorts of things, and then obviously packaging

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But it doesn't necessarily mean there's

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Speaker 6: And I don't mean that in terms of like sizing.

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Speaker 3: I just mean like that everybody that I've given it

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Speaker 3: to is like, oh, I loved it. Some of those

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Speaker 3: items are a little bit simpler to use, like platoral

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Speaker 3: I loved it. But you know, it's not necessarily like

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Speaker 3: we needed a woman to design that mean. I've designed

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Speaker 3: probably more platoral stimulators than some women have, and they

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Speaker 6: Just the same.

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Speaker 5: I can't take my eyes off of this box behind

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Speaker 5: the Christmas tree that I don't know how I missed it,

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Speaker 5: the Mills box.

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Speaker 4: What is in there?

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Speaker 5: Box?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We need a milf box?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? What is that? That is? So you know what

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Speaker 6: MILFs are? Are you guys MILFs?

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Speaker 5: I mean the hell, Chad, look at us?

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Speaker 3: That is so obviously in porn, there is this category

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Speaker 3: not the biggest category, and.

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Speaker 2: As a big milf stone.

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Speaker 3: So this was we had this idea of actually creating

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Speaker 3: a box, not just the package itself, but an actual

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Speaker 3: box inside and calling it like milf in a box.

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Speaker 2: So basically you can put it in your travel you

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Speaker 2: can travel with it. Yeah, basically, and there's your milf

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Speaker 2: right there. Nice. I was just I was wondering.

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Speaker 4: I've seen her before and.

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Speaker 2: My porn research.

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Speaker 6: She's awesome. I love her. Do we have any other questions?

1175
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Speaker 4: Do we miss anything?

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Speaker 5: We asked you if you had any horries? You don't,

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Speaker 5: which I know is a lie.

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Speaker 4: You have a little we have a little mini horr.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you should share with Chad because it's what

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Speaker 2: we do. So we have a segment called Horris.

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Speaker 4: Oho Stories.

1182
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Speaker 2: So we have a segment called Horries. We share horror

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Speaker 2: stories or just silent sily.

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Speaker 5: I'm fucking up boards today all day, highly sexual encounters

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Speaker 5: or weird shit that happens the other day. Maybe last week,

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Speaker 5: shortly after we got our package from Doc Johnson, because

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Speaker 5: they're so kind.

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Speaker 2: It was in my car and.

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Speaker 5: I don't know these last these particular two days, I

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Speaker 5: was horny as fun and I told you don't masturbate much.

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Speaker 5: But I was just feeling so horny, and I was

1192
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Speaker 5: just just dming people pictures, asking for dick pics. I

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Speaker 5: was just really on it. And so I was having

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Speaker 5: like this is totally illegal. I was having like a

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Speaker 5: kind of hot sexting situation. And someone sent me a

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Speaker 5: video and I was like, God, it's kind of fucking hot.

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Speaker 5: And I just looked in the back seat and there

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Speaker 5: you were driving. I was driving, and there was my

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Speaker 5: I have not a single motherfucking tint on my car,

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Speaker 5: not one, not a tint. It's not like some very

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Speaker 5: incognito car. And I just reached my ass back in

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Speaker 5: the front of you after I exited the one on one,

1204
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Speaker 5: pop that bitch open that good old eye vibe and

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Speaker 5: placed it just over the panty.

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Speaker 2: I was wearing a skirt.

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Speaker 5: I's like, oh my god, it's fucking amazing. So I

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Speaker 5: got a little just right off to Balbo. I'd got off.

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Speaker 4: I was on the way in my house, right Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 5: I was like driving and it was and I was

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Speaker 5: actually like looking around at.

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Speaker 4: The Maybe that kind of like made it more exciting.

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Speaker 6: China.

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Speaker 2: It was like it was like five o'clock. It was definitely.

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Speaker 2: It was like stop traffic.

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Speaker 5: It's like how no one looks over because I look curse.

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Speaker 5: And then I took a picture and I sent it

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Speaker 5: back and then I went Eric's Sausen said, wow, did

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Speaker 5: you I did try that?

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Speaker 2: I vibe in It's amazing.

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Speaker 5: And so that's while driving.

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Speaker 2: I don't recommend you do it, but if you can

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Speaker 2: do both.

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Speaker 4: I would definitely crash. Can't do that.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't crash. So so there's my horri for

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Speaker 2: the day. Happy hump day, guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on and letting

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Speaker 2: Putting up with us.

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Speaker 8: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Where can our people find you? I mean, I know

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Speaker 3: I think it's the you know, for me, it's the

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Speaker 3: it's a vibrating cock ring. I love that item. I

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Speaker 3: also think like the I Vibe line that you guys

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Speaker 2: That is that what we got right.

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Speaker 6: And then also the I wand is great. It has

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Speaker 6: a great angle on it.

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Speaker 3: It's really easy to use for solo, but it definitely

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Speaker 3: is also amazing with a partner as well. It has

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Speaker 3: it's larger, it's it stays out of the way when

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Speaker 3: you're with somebody, So it's I love those items.

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Speaker 3: think we're also doc Johnson USA on Twitter. I don't know, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't do any of this.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check out our stories. We're gonna definitely

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 2: rate us God damn.

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye solo.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say yes.

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Speaker 5: Runzul s s the Mills cover and do so.

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