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Speaker 1: Pairs mealy peaches, slimy, pineapples, pointy, and half of one cherry.

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Speaker 1: It's not enough. Half of one cherry. It's not enough.

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Speaker 1: It's more than enough. It's more than enough. It's not

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Speaker 1: it's more than enough, and they will be thankful for it,

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Speaker 1: for they do not deserve it.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Swirl. Then, welcome to the No Dunks Podcast

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Speaker 2: presented by Amazon Prime. It's Monday, May twelfth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: This is the Classic Factory. I'm Jay Skeets and alongside me,

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Speaker 2: as always Task Melis.

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Speaker 3: Podcast listeners and cherry lovers. I just had some yesterday.

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Speaker 3: They were great. This one's for you.

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Speaker 2: Next to him, it's the Bearded one with Topsha, Hot Boy,

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Speaker 2: Tray Kirby, Hey yo, and Overyonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 2: Super producer JD. Hello, there he is, and here we

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Speaker 2: are everybody on YouTube. Hello, podcast listeners. On today's show,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get you all set for tonight's Game fours

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Speaker 2: in Madison Square Garden and the Bay will show you

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Speaker 2: who wins the NBA Draft Lottery todnight before it even happens.

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Speaker 2: We already know we figured it out over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: But first let's break down Saturday's games. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: the early one because it was the more entertaining of

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Speaker 2: the two. Though it was Bubba Sparks, it was ugly.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. SGA score twenty five helped the thunder

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Speaker 2: pass the Nuggets ninety two to eighty seven, tied the

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Speaker 2: series at two games apiece. But they shot it combined

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Speaker 2: twenty one for eighty six from three point range tasks.

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Speaker 2: They missed over one hundred shots combined. There heyday Sunday

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Speaker 2: afternoon Nuggets had eight points I guess in the first quarter,

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Speaker 2: but we're in the game because you know, the thunder

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Speaker 2: excuse me, the Nugget. Did I say that right? The

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Speaker 2: Nugget scored eight points. Yeah, yeah, but the thunder weren't

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Speaker 2: going that much more. But in the end, okay, see

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Speaker 2: got it done. Clutch play from SGA and the team.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. This looked a little for OKAC in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: They were down eight points. It looked like Game three

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Speaker 3: where they may not be able to recover, and they fought.

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Speaker 3: I thought Shake Gildas Alexander's fourth quarter compared to his

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter in Game three, was way better. I thought

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Speaker 3: in Game three, where he settled for threes a lot

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Speaker 3: of the time. He was one of eight in that

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Half of his shots were threes. He was

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Speaker 3: just trying to win it from the three point line.

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Speaker 3: In this one, they pushed it. Shay led that they

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Speaker 3: distributed the ball a lot more. You know, he was

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Speaker 3: three of seven in the quarter. He did have a

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Speaker 3: couple of dagger attempts there, Yeah, under but I thought

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Speaker 3: those were okay because they're up five. They're both on

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Speaker 3: one possession where he tried to hit a three and

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Speaker 3: then they got an offensive rebund. I thought that was fine.

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Speaker 3: Him pushing the ball I thought was important in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter because when they're down four or excuse me,

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Speaker 3: down eight early in the fourth quarters, they start distributing

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Speaker 3: and their depth came through Cason Wallace splash, another one,

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Speaker 3: Keep on pushing that ball. Cason Wallace splash at two threes,

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Speaker 3: Aeron Wiggins another one, splash. So they just got all

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Speaker 3: their guys going. Their depth showed. Bench points were thirty

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Speaker 3: five to eight in this game the Nuggets. That's obviously

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Speaker 3: a problem, even though their starters won seventy nine to

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Speaker 3: fifty seven. Somehow, in this game, the man Jokic wasn't

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Speaker 3: the guy. No, he was not, seven of twenty two

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Speaker 3: in this one, only hitting three shots in the paint.

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Speaker 3: The team only hit ten shots in the paint total.

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Speaker 3: Because of how good the Thunder are at helping, they

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Speaker 3: were showing Jokic bodies. I thought Shay was good at

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Speaker 3: one possession doing it to Jokich. What do you think

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Speaker 3: the Jokic reasoning is behind this? Now? Two almost three

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Speaker 4: Worst stretch of three games that he's ever had. I

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Speaker 4: think he's been under forty percent from the field, and

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Speaker 4: all of it. A lot of it is the Thunder defense.

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Speaker 4: They're only guarding Jokic for the most part. It's boxes

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Speaker 4: and elbows every single time. Jokic is eleven of sixteen

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Speaker 4: in the restricted area for the series. That's four attens

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Speaker 4: per game. At the rim, he's twenty five of seventy

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Speaker 4: two everywhere else. He's gonna have to hit jumpers to

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Speaker 4: be able to beat this Thunder team because they're showing

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Speaker 4: him his defender, a defender behind the and then a

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Speaker 4: That's why his turnovers are up. He's got twenty three

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Speaker 4: How often are you seeing Yokic as this where he's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in this series, he's like out a rhythm, which

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Speaker 4: he's completely he can't make a jump shot right now.

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Speaker 4: His three pointer has completely abandoned him. He was two

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Speaker 4: for eight in this game, twenty one percent from the series.

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Speaker 4: He's even not shooting free throws well, was eleven or

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Speaker 4: fourteen last night. That's very good. We had two big

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Speaker 4: He's only shooting seventy eight percent for the series. Sounds

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Speaker 4: pretty good, but he's a career eighty two percent free

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Speaker 4: throw shooter, never had a series or never had a

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Speaker 4: season below eighty seventy four percent so far in this

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Speaker 4: playoffs by far the worst of his career. And the

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Speaker 4: Thunder are so good defensively that they can help on

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Speaker 4: Jokic and get out to the shooters because they're not

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Speaker 4: worried about him at all. Maybe Michael Porter Junior can

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Speaker 4: have a big night shooting, Maybe Jamal Murray can have

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Speaker 4: a big night shooting. But last night mpjaozo for five,

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Speaker 4: Christian Brown two for nine, Westbrook two for nine. The

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Speaker 4: Nuggets blew their lead with Yolkic on the bench, and

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Speaker 4: then they lost the game with Yokic on the court.

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Speaker 4: He just has not been MVP level, and it's because

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Speaker 4: the Thunder are such a good defensive team and he's

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Speaker 4: out of rhythm. Maybe his elbow's bothering him. He heard

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Speaker 4: it in the first round, but no excuses.

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Speaker 5: At this point. You got to make some shots if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair, especially when like they really

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Speaker 2: are down to like six guys the Nuggets. He brought

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Speaker 2: part of that, like eleven zero run where guy suddenly

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Speaker 2: And then SGA took over down the stretch. I like

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Speaker 2: that little stretch there from SGA where he drove on Murray,

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Speaker 2: got him on his hip, and he had one sort

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Speaker 2: of do a Yokic like shot right we're being hit

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Speaker 2: fell in. Then he hit a tough fade away on

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Speaker 2: Christian Brown over in front of his own bench. And

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Speaker 2: then a little bit later after setting up Jalen Williams

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Speaker 2: JDub who had a really bad game except for that

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Speaker 2: to SGA, he blew by Jokic in a pick and

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Speaker 2: SGA in games one and three. But really good reminder.

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Speaker 2: I thought in game four that this guy is among

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Speaker 2: one of the most clutch players in the league of

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Speaker 2: the last couple seasons in regular season, So big game

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Speaker 2: for him, and I mean again, it got really close.

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Speaker 2: It was a dogfight, of a rock fight whatever for

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Speaker 2: them to pull this out. Otherwise they're down three to one,

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Speaker 2: and I think people would be in saying, I don't

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Speaker 2: against Denver, so they may save their season there.

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Speaker 3: With that game. Yeah, the resiliency of this team showed

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Speaker 3: all came together and we would be talking definitely about

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Speaker 3: Okay See in general and Shay in general if Denver

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Speaker 3: could hit some jumpers, because Shaye missed three shots and

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Speaker 3: he tried to win it. Then he lost the ball

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Speaker 3: off himself, and then it was fine him trying to

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Speaker 3: win it because Denver couldn't hit a shot. So what

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Speaker 3: does it really matter in the end, because they just

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Speaker 3: had a bad fourth quarter, really just just fell apart.

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Speaker 3: Is it the depth? Is it the thirty six hour

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Speaker 3: turnaround everyone was talking about from Friday night to Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: That was the problem in the first quarter, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Twenty five total points. They should never do that. They

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Speaker 2: Even said it in the you know, midgame interview, right,

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Speaker 2: He's like, this is basically as close as you can

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Speaker 2: playoffs because we played that night, it went to overtime

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Speaker 2: and then we have the afternoon game. Is a little

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Speaker 2: strange that it was like, it just why wouldn't they

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Speaker 2: the day, and then do this one at night. That

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Had some impact. It appeared nobody could score.

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Speaker 5: That was a disgusting person that was crazy. I also thought,

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Speaker 5: okay see, once.

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Speaker 4: We get to the fourth quarter and they're actually like

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Speaker 4: learning how to play basketball ones again, okay see, was

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Speaker 4: much better against the zone than Denver was against the zone.

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Speaker 4: It was zone versus zone. Okay see basically playing a

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Speaker 4: it's going side to side, side to side, side to side.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Williams did not score well at all until he

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Speaker 4: started hitting some free throws at the end, but he

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Speaker 4: the two man game with Jokich and Murray, and that's

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Speaker 4: bringing Hartenstein and Alex Caruso, who closed the fourth quarter

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Speaker 4: in this game, into every single action. It's just taken

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Speaker 4: have to fight so hard to even get Yokich or

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Speaker 4: Murray open with those two guys switching screens, battling through.

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Speaker 4: Okay se, he just has a much better game plan

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Speaker 4: for the fourth quarter, at least in this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point about okay see figuring out

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Speaker 2: at least how to beat the zone, because I was

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Speaker 2: like pulling my hair out in some of those possessions

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Speaker 2: earlier in the game when they were seeing Denver zone,

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Speaker 2: like they would do the thing where like they wouldn't

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Speaker 2: think that's like the that's when the zone really is

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Speaker 2: working at its best. Oddly is like it's like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm open on the wing, so I'll just let it

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Speaker 2: rip like eight seconds into the shot clock. And if

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Speaker 2: you don't hit it. I mean, look, if you hit it, okay, fine,

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Speaker 2: you're beating the zone because you're hitting threes. But if

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Speaker 2: you don't, it's like, oh, that's a bad shot. Defense

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Speaker 2: didn't have to do anything, you know, get those things.

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Speaker 2: But if you move it and then you attack when

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Speaker 2: to then kick out or maybe get a shot at

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Speaker 2: the rim, yeah, then you at least have the Denver

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Speaker 2: defense scrambling and working. But they didn't do that for

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Speaker 2: a majority of the game until that second half. I

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Speaker 2: thought more and more it was swinging and was that

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Speaker 2: Legler on the call on this one?

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Speaker 3: If I remember, I think.

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Speaker 2: James okay, yeah, j Bills. He was pointing that out

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Speaker 2: that it's like, oh, this is when they'res was when

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Speaker 2: they're doing their best, when they actually just make it move.

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Speaker 3: A little bit. Yeah, and it looked like, okay, sees

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Speaker 3: Respect to the Denver defense for just throwing everybody into

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Speaker 2: The Nuggets gave it to you on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: their confidence the best of three series? And in general,

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Speaker 4: that didn't happen in game four. So this one still

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Speaker 4: We're talking about Jaylen Williams having a bad game. I

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Speaker 3: What else.

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Speaker 5: Russell Westbrook was playing on defense on Shay Gilder Alexander

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Speaker 2: Man, Mark Jones, man, he's got He's got a line

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Speaker 4: It's fun to watch it with people who aren't like

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Speaker 4: Guy is line a minute and it just feels scripted

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Speaker 4: there's like totally he's he's like good defense in his

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Speaker 2: Fast though he doesn't he's great he is great and

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Speaker 2: then he's the human dictionary too. Yes, he is biquitous

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like the grift off in the second

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Speaker 3: It was weird, Yeah, but it was.

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Speaker 2: He's the one where he was like jumping up and down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Not the biggest burgle you've ever seen from flying

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Speaker 3: He was going for it. Yeah, he just he doesn't

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Speaker 2: You keep that guy to three assists. That means he's

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Speaker 5: When Westbrook is playing this many minutes, it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: You'll shoot it when he's open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And uh, to bring up that Westbrook airball,

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Speaker 2: And you know, another part at bad Westbrook game, obviously

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Speaker 2: it seems like at least fair enough, close enough to

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Speaker 5: Nuggets in seven?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, there you go. That's I'm glad.

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Speaker 3: Because you know everybody's taking the Thunder.

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Speaker 2: So you're going thunder. But are you going six or seven?

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Speaker 2: It's the question.

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Speaker 3: game because as much as the defense is preventing him

432
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:26,200
Speaker 3: from seeing his passing lanes and his shots, I think

433
00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,480
Speaker 3: he's just having off shooting. I mean to shoot twenty

434
00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,280
Speaker 3: one percent from three throughout the series. That ain't yo kitch.

435
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,239
Speaker 3: He's gonna have a good one. So they're gonna win

436
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,720
Speaker 3: a game, but they're not gonna win two. I'll take

437
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:36,520
Speaker 3: the thunder and seven.

438
00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that too. That would be my pick

439
00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,560
Speaker 2: right now. This feels like there's still one more Denver

440
00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,600
Speaker 2: win here. They've pulled some crazy ones out to go

441
00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,479
Speaker 2: back what Trey was saying in some clutch situations, but

442
00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,400
Speaker 2: they just need Like I guess, the one good thing

443
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,119
Speaker 2: is like it's a game they lose, and basically everyone

444
00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 2: played bad for them, you know. It was it like

445
00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,320
Speaker 2: a wasted Jamal game or a wasted Gordon game, or

446
00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 2: a wasted yokicch game. It's sort of like everybody's stump.

447
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,120
Speaker 2: Now that's the thunder De doing that. Like, don't get

448
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,040
Speaker 2: me wrong, but there'll be a game once again here.

449
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 2: I think in these final three, if we get them,

450
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,720
Speaker 2: then it will all click and they'll get another victory.

451
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 2: But I like, okay, see in seven, oh you got

452
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 2: Denver and seven, let's hear from you guys in the

453
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 2: stream team where you going?

454
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 5: I got two more notes for you. Sure.

455
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,200
Speaker 4: Number one, Mister Nugget is a funny nickname. You don't

456
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 4: think about it until you hear it on the broadcast.

457
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,479
Speaker 4: You know, we all know Aaron Gordon is locked in

458
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 4: with Denver. They love him there. He lived in a gym.

459
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,120
Speaker 4: Now he can shoot threes. So his nickname is mister Nugget,

460
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 4: which is hilarious to hear on a broadcast.

461
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 5: Mister Nugget.

462
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 4: Also, David Adalman makes me think of Shadrack by the

463
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 4: Beastie Boys because he is madder than Mad's Alfred E.

464
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 5: Newman. He just looks like such a mischievous little kid. Yeah,

465
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 5: not on the tea, like the gaps in his teem.

466
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 2: Nora could not believe he was the head coach. It's crazy.

467
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 2: Who is that? Guy said, that's the new head coach

468
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,640
Speaker 2: he sort of took over. Yeah, he does not look

469
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,639
Speaker 2: like a head coach. Yeah, I know his dad was

470
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 2: a famous coach. You know, he's been in the obviously

471
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: assistant for a long time. But I get it. He

472
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,479
Speaker 2: does not appear to be no an NBA head coach.

473
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 5: It makes me our day not look like.

474
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 2: Old man squinty lord serious man. Yeah for sure, all right, well,

475
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 2: let's keep it going here. Let's talk about the blowout

476
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 2: from Sunday, the East top seed on the brink of

477
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: elimination because the Pacers blew at the Cavs one twenty

478
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 2: nine to one oh nine in Game four, they take

479
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: the three to one lead here in their second round series,

480
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: they built a forty one point halftime lead. Sayd how

481
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 2: just like this got out of hand in such a

482
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 2: hurry for Cleveland of course, and then it was over.

483
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I know we've seen a lot of twenty

484
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 2: point comebacks, you're not seeing that I've seen at forty

485
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 2: one point come back, especially after Donovan Mitchell tweaks his ankle,

486
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,239
Speaker 2: you know, getting ready for the second half, and then

487
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 2: they shut him down for the entire second half. So

488
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 2: what were your takeaways or your notes from this one?

489
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: TK get started here?

490
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a sixty one to thirty seven game

491
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 4: late in the second quarter. That's a huge lead. That's

492
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 4: a twenty four point lead. You're not confident going into halftime. Uh,

493
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 4: and then Indiana went on a nineteen to two run

494
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 4: after so pretty bad, such a big blowout that I

495
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 4: literally turned it off and watched the movie Blowout. Oh wow, yeah, fitting, yeah,

496
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 4: I wasn't realizing that until this morning. I was like, oh, nice,

497
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 4: So that was good. But I think the big key

498
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,199
Speaker 4: here was that Indiana had solutions against the zone that

499
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,719
Speaker 4: we saw on Friday night from Cleveland. Basically, Evan Mobley

500
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 4: is at the top of their three two zone. They

501
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 4: figured out if we screen him and roll down the lane,

502
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 4: it's all little guys down there. And guess what, Tidrome

503
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 4: ain't doing nothing at the rim. Darius Garland ain't doing

504
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 4: nothing at the rim. They attacked every switch in the post.

505
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 4: It felt like whether it be Siakam or even Obi

506
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 4: Topons was scoring in the post. I don't know if

507
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 4: they beat every single mismatch down there, but it seemed

508
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 4: like they went every single mismatch down there. Siakam finished

509
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 4: with twenty one, Turner had twenty, Obi Toppin had twenty.

510
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 4: I was a little worried early in the first quarter.

511
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 4: Pascal picks up two files in the first four minutes

512
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 4: of the game. He's playing pretty well. Uh oh, this

513
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 4: could be bad. Turns out, Obi Toppin leads Indiana and

514
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 4: scoring in the first quarter, hit some threes and stuff.

515
00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 5: So I just think it's bad.

516
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 4: This was certainly a dominant performance from Indiana, and I

517
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 4: think that their bigs have outplayed the Calves bigs for

518
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 4: the majority of the series. Now, obviously Evan Mobley missed

519
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 4: the first two games, but he was decent in Game three.

520
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 4: But in general, Siakam and Miles Turner have been better

521
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 4: than Jared Allen and Evan Mobley had been for the Calves.

522
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 4: That should have been one of Cleveland's advantages, but it

523
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 4: hasn't been. And you gotta start casting some aspersions at

524
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 4: Jared Allen here two points, two points last night?

525
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and two boards.

526
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, is he seven feet tall?

527
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 3: Yeah? I know Indiana's hitting shots, But no, he was not.

528
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 3: He was not there. I think you look up and

529
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: down the Cavs roster.

530
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: Who was there?

531
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: Nobody? Yeah, that twenty point final score is nothing close

532
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,719
Speaker 3: to what actually happened out there was one twenty nine

533
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: one o nine. But Donovan Mitchell said at halftime, I

534
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 3: ain't playing the second half. Now. I don't know how

535
00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: bad his leg is, but they are I'm assuming him

536
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 3: for game time. It was like, come on, we're down forty.

537
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 3: Aaron Ne Smith hit a shot at the buzzer at

538
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: the end of the second quarter to put him up

539
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: forty one, to just put a dagger in it, because

540
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 3: Cleveland didn't show up. They didn't show up, period. Everybody

541
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: on the tay. I I want to say Max Shrews,

542
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 3: he did show up. That guy plays hard. That being said,

543
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: nobody else did. I mean, it's like the old DMX song,

544
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: Where to calves, Where to calves? Where the calves at?

545
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 3: That's what I was singing. Where are they? Where are they?

546
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 3: Did not play? In Game four? And now the Pacers

547
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: obviously solved the zone and they were awesome. But when

548
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: Pascal Siakn goes to the bench and here comes Oobie

549
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 3: Top and he's just doing backdoor baseline cuts, You're not ready.

550
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 3: You're not ready. All these guys were not ready for

551
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: this game.

552
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: Cleveland had fourteen turnovers and just eight made baskets in

553
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: the first half, and I thought, I went and watched

554
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: all the turnovers again this morning because I remembered watching

555
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: it live last night. I was like, God, these are ugly,

556
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: Like half of these don't even feel like forced by

557
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 2: the Pacers, and a lot of them weren't. They had

558
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: six calves. Players had two turnovers each in the first

559
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: half here when they were down a million, Jared Allen,

560
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: he sailed one over Mobley's head in the corner. I

561
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: don't know he was rushing, he was panicked. I don't know.

562
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: It went like ten feet over Mobley's head over in

563
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: the corner. A minute later, Alan had another turnover where

564
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: he was like he was trying to wrap a pass

565
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: around to Mobili like in the paint, like shoot it,

566
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: big man, Like it's a little hook shot right there.

567
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: Not long after that, Mitchell rifled one out of bounds

568
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: like he saw I think it was Max Streuce like

569
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: cutting back door, but it was like three feet behind him.

570
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: Didn't like he got a fingertip on it. But turnover

571
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: Max Druce threw one at Alan's feet. He like just again,

572
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 2: Like I almost felt bad for Jared Allen on that one.

573
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: He was like, I think, even who is I keep

574
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: forgetting who's on the call on these games? But whoever,

575
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: it was pointed out like what was he gonna do

576
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: if you even caught it there? Like what were you thinking?

577
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: Strews and again he threw it right at his feet.

578
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: I think, yes, yes, yes yeah. And then Ty Jerome,

579
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: this guy was a mess. He's been a mess all series.

580
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: He traveled in the paint, didn't know what he was

581
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: going to do, and just you know, shuffled his feet

582
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: and then he threw away one where he tried like

583
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: you know, pick and roll action up top. He like

584
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: tried to loop it over just way too nonchalant. That

585
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: was another turnover. Anyway, The whole point was they were

586
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: garbage and they got punched in the mouth and they

587
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: didn't know how to react and it just got out

588
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: of hand because the pacers were clicking and beating his

589
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: own and the cows were just turning it over time

590
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: after time.

591
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Mitchell was out there doing things. He tried

592
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: to decapitate Thomas Bryan on that dunk, but then he decided,

593
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna go with my left hand. Like

594
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: he was out there, Mobile was out there, but they

595
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 3: really didn't show up. I hated when Darius Garland had

596
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: his third foul and Kenny Akinton decided to put him

597
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 3: to the bench. He was just smiling. I know, he

598
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 3: was sort of mocking that third foul call, but he

599
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: just wasn't wasn't locked in. If there's any positives, it

600
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: is that Darius Garland had his best quarter of this series.

601
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 3: When it went after half third quarter, he was the

602
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: ball was in his hands, especially because Donovan Mitchell was

603
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: not on the floor, so he had twelve points in

604
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 3: that quarter. So, you know, he's only played eight quarters

605
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: in this series because he was hurt the first two games.

606
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 3: But if there's anything to be positive about, I guess

607
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: it's that they can win a game. They could definitely

608
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: win Game five and then we're going back to Indiana hopefully.

609
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: One of the spiciest things from this game was Benedict

610
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: Mathrin getting ejected for I guess the punch push to

611
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: DeAndrea Hunter's stirred him there. He got him in the chest.

612
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: Pacers were trying to inbound the ball, and that's what

613
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: Mathrin did, right, I mean, he popped him in the chest. Now,

614
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: whether it was a closed fist or a little a

615
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: bit of a push or a little bit of both.

616
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: Hunter sort of doubled over and then he walked over

617
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: to Mathren, who did the you know, wide arms spread

618
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: bro yeah, exactly, and he sort of got in his

619
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: face and then pushed him with the two hand shove.

620
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: He went down, and that's when Miles Turner came running

621
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: in he hip checked Hunter. In the end, they determined

622
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: that Mathrin punched him in the stern sternam and man like,

623
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: poor camera guy. So they didn't really have a good

624
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 2: shot of this one, did they, at least that we

625
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: saw in the broadcast. Never, you could never see it.

626
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 4: No, we need the hawkeye camera to come back, or

627
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: at least an enhance or something like that. We never

628
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: got to see fist to stirn them. Maybe he did

629
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 4: the five point palm heart exploding technique.

630
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: Well that's what Wait when we were not getting good

631
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: camera views at first, I like, because you all you

632
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: were seeing was Hunters sort of go over. Did anybody

633
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: else think, oh, he must have tapped him in the balls?

634
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 5: The reaction was balls, yes.

635
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then of course you then they see it

636
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: a little bit and it's like, okay, he's definitely popping

637
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: them a little bit in the chest. But it's like,

638
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, it felt like more of like a

639
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 2: These two are obviously not getting along good on TNT

640
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: for having that uh Mathron Hunter pack ready to go.

641
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was the heart fell in game one,

642
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: them talking a little trash in game three, and then

643
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: this obviously in game four, but it didn't matter. I

644
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: think when it happened, you're like, oh, oh, Math, and

645
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 2: what are you doing? You guys are rolling right now.

646
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: Are you gonna like, you know, literally poke the bear

647
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: here and wake up the Calves? But no, they just

648
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: cruised even more well played by Math and I.

649
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: Guess yeah, the Calves didn't have anybody coming off the

650
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 3: bench to help DeAndre. Andre had a terrible game, even

651
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: though he stayed in and he pointed at his head

652
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: and said, see, I'm smart. You know I'm smart, but

653
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 3: he he looked like he was kind of lost in

654
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: this game. You know.

655
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: It looked like the Calves could have used Caro Slipper

656
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: or George Dang.

657
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I.

658
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: Know I'm a Hunter hater, but that that's what I thought.

659
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: It was like they could really use them right now.

660
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, scrappy George, and yeah they could have used some fight.

661
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where that hit was. When they came

662
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: back from replay, they showed it as close as possible,

663
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: but it was, you know, one of those pixelated the

664
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 3: same angle of the main angle. You really couldn't see it,

665
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: but it didn't look like a punch. I thought maybe

666
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: it was just a purple nurple, like what what else?

667
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 3: What else could it have been?

668
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: But they determined it was punch enough.

669
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: I guess yeah. And and the ref coming to the

670
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: microphone and saying it hit him in the sternum type

671
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: you know use we use the word sternum. You don't

672
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: hear that very often, so I guess they deemed it

673
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: that's a punch anyway. I mean, it is kind of

674
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: surprising DeAndre Hunter didn't get tossed in a way because

675
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: he came out, but anyway got a technical in.

676
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: Fact, and then Turner got a technical for I mean,

677
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: he was trying to like peace making, but he did

678
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: come in and bump the hell out one hundred, so

679
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: that's warranted, I thought. I think the shocking part was

680
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: more than mathroom. Maybe got tossed for that, Yeah, yeah,

681
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: when maybe yeah whatever, flagrant tech, whatever you want give,

682
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: but nobody has mathroom in our Instigator draft. So no,

683
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: no no impact on points anything else, TK from your

684
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: random note.

685
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 5: So yeah, Darius Garland fixes his hair too much. I

686
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 5: knew this is.

687
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 4: There's a play in the second quarter where you can

688
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 4: see him putting his ponytail up at the free throw line.

689
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: Pacer swing swing, the ball gets to Obi Topping in

690
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 4: the corner. I think the Calves are supposed to be

691
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: in zone there because it seems like that's Darius Garland's spot,

692
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: but he's late to get there, so Obi Topping drives

693
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: his baseline. He does the Doctor J layup finishes on

694
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: the other side, and then you see Darius Garland finishing

695
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 4: putting his hair up into a ponytail.

696
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: Probably should do that during time out.

697
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not the first time he's ever done that too,

698
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: Maybe not even the first time in that game. I

699
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: think there was another one too, Yeah, where he's obviously

700
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: messing with it. It's like causing him some sort of discomforter.

701
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: He's trying to get it back. But yeah, the game's

702
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: going on.

703
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: We're playing here.

704
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's that. Anything else from you guys on

705
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: this one, the blowout? Do you think the Calves are toast?

706
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: Are they toast? Yeah?

707
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: Like you think they maybe could win a Game five

708
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, But.

709
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: That's what the Pulse is saying my favorite newsletter. Yeah,

710
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: or the Calves toast? I do think I think they are. Well.

711
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: Game two is what they're gonna regret, missing a blowing

712
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: a forty eight performs from Donovan Mitchell not getting a

713
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: win because of course the Pacers are gonna win one

714
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: of two games at home. I mean, they're good enough

715
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: to do it, so they did that. But the Cavs

716
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: just need to freaking split at home, and obviously the

717
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: injuries are part of it. There's no doubt. But I

718
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: think the Cavs should should win Game five.

719
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: We'll see, what do you think.

720
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: I think it depends on if Mitchell plays. Sure, he's

721
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 4: been their only real source of offense so far, and this.

722
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: Is getting an Mris's what they're telling us. I'm with you, Tas.

723
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: I thought it was a bit more of like, Okay, yeah,

724
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: my ankle is sore. Everybody's sore, but like we're getting killed,

725
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: so let's save anything I have left in the tank

726
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: for game five. Yeah. But then I have seen the

727
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: clip of him. I don't know if you guys saw it.

728
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: There's some like sort of backboard clip of him coming

729
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: out there and warming up. He does seem to aggravate something.

730
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: It's like doubled over.

731
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, so for a rumper.

732
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: We'll see if he plays. Obviously in their next game, man, yeah,

733
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: if he doesn't, They're in a lot of trouble. If

734
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: he does, can he can they at least get that

735
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: back to Indiana for Game six.

736
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like last year where he missed the last

737
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: couple of games against the Celtics in Round number two.

738
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to do that, so I assume I

739
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: assumed that it was just them being safe. But yeah,

740
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: they need him. But I guess it's a good thing

741
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: Garland did something out there in the second half. Anyway,

742
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: we'll see.

743
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about Saturday's games. We'll start

744
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: with Edwards and Randall leading the Wolves past the Warriors

745
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: one O two ninety seven. They have a two to

746
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: one lead now in their second round series. Julius Randall

747
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: first career playoff triple double, twenty four points, ten boards,

748
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: game high twelve assists. This guy is just turning into

749
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: Yokic Cher with the the assist numbers he's putting up.

750
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: He has been awesome, and it was great in the

751
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. And this was an ugly game too. Obviously,

752
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 2: this was like what the Warriors were trying to do

753
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: here and help their best chances to maybe get a

754
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: victory without Curry. You had Butler a lot more aggressive.

755
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: You had cominga chipping in, but in the end, those

756
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: two wolf stars took over t K.

757
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right.

758
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: Julius Randall is having an awesome playoffs so far. He's

759
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: followed his best playoff series in the first round. That

760
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: was the best series he ever had. He's having a

761
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 4: better series as we go into the second round. Here

762
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 4: he cannot make a three pointer, but everything else is

763
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: basically flowing for this guy. I think it was McDaniel's

764
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: postgame said, you put a small guy on him, he's

765
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: too big for that guy. You put a big guy

766
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: on him. He's too quick for that guy. He's a

767
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: walking mismatch out there right now. He's playing bully ball.

768
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 4: He almost dunked one with his face in this one. Meanwhile,

769
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards is basically a tale of two halves as

770
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: a player. In the first halves of games this series,

771
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: he's averaging five points per game, shooting nineteen percent. Second

772
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: halves of games, he's shooting sixty four percent fifty from

773
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 4: three and scoring twenty one a game. And that's exactly

774
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: what happened in Game three, eight points, two assists in

775
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: the first half, two assists and twenty eight points in

776
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: the second half. He basically just put his head down

777
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: started getting to the rim NonStop. In the third quarter.

778
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: That really opened up the three ball. Then in the

779
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: fourth quarter for Edwards when he was switching.

780
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 5: Him like crazy.

781
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: These guys are playing great games, Anthony Edwards, Julius Randall,

782
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: and still in the tensest moments of the game, they're

783
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: gonna swing, swing for McDaniels, wide open three pointer.

784
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: You got.

785
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: Julius Randall didn't want to pass the ball to Rudy

786
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 4: Gobert earlier in the season, drops it off to go

787
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: Bear for an and one dunk to throw it in,

788
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: and then the icing game, icing play of the game,

789
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: the board by Randall kicks it to Anthony Edwards in

790
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 4: the corner. It's like, this is exactly the point. These

791
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: two guys are doing everything out there. They're making the

792
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: role players better and showing up in these games. This

793
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: was a stealable win for the Warriors.

794
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

795
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: They got a playoff Jimmy type game. Thirty three points

796
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: on twenty six shots. The guy amped up his usage,

797
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: looked to be a scorer, just zero margin ferrer. So

798
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 4: you see Pajenski goes one for ten, you get a

799
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: combined nine points and four rebounds from your starting front

800
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: court and Draymond and Trace Jackson Davis.

801
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 5: It ain't gonna cut it.

802
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 4: You gotta play perfectly to beat this Timberwolves team without

803
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: Steph Curry, and the Warriors played almost perfectly, just not

804
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 4: quite there.

805
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kurr's stressing tasks like his team to win,

806
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: they have to do it with defense, and they just

807
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: could not make the key stops down the stretch that

808
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 2: TK just went through, either open looks or those offensive

809
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: rebounds that led to other looks, that a corner three

810
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: that he got another look at it. They just came

811
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: up just short. And if they go on to lose

812
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: this series, it feels like that one. That game, to me,

813
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: was like the difference maker because that was probably the

814
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 2: way they played could have been theirs.

815
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: Oh, this was the want to steal. When you get

816
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: thirty three from Jimmy and thirty from Jonathan kaminga off

817
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: the bench, a guy who wasn't part of the rotation,

818
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: insert him, you get sixty three from them, and Anthony Edwards.

819
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: You know, he really did not exist in this series

820
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 3: until the second half of this game, where he was

821
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: really truly himself. It was like ten and a half

822
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: quarters for him to find himself. As he said before

823
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: this game, you know what was it? Playing me different,

824
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 3: taking away my three points and they're just let me drive.

825
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: But he couldn't find his drive for the first two

826
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: games here was And so combine that with a Cominga

827
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: and Butler game. But then you get a bad Draymond

828
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: Green game where he fills out Julis Randall taking it

829
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: to him, and I thought, just a margin for error,

830
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: and with the Golden State Warriors now without staff, is

831
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: just so small you just can't make mistakes. I just

832
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: thought there was just boneheaded slash. We haven't had Jimmy

833
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: as our number one guy. Mistakes early in this game,

834
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: I mean Draymond Green inbounding a ball after a made

835
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: basket underneath his own hoop to Jimmy Butler, who didn't

836
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: know what was coming, turns into a Mike Conley three.

837
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: That's three fricking points. And then you had Jimmy coming

838
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: for a dribble handoff from Draymond Green goes past it.

839
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: Draymond says, all right, you're coming to it right now.

840
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: Jimmy thought he was getting it way behind three point line.

841
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: That's another freaking turnover. You heard Gary Payton the second

842
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: talking to Jimmy Butler, Okay, what are we doing here

843
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: when they did an audio assist like that. Those are

844
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: multiple things that just it's unfortunate, but it also just

845
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: it just can't happen. Jonathan Kaminga and Jimmy Butler on

846
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: a fast break, Jimmy Butler just gives him this direct

847
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: pass that goes through Jonathan Kaminga when he was expecting

848
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: an alley up. They just didn't communicate all that well.

849
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: And then Anthony Edwards is alive. I mean, he really

850
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: took him a long time, but yeah, now he's going

851
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 3: And so now if he's alive, this was the game.

852
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: It sure felt like. But I would say even at

853
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: the end of the fourth quarter there when ain't got

854
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: that steal off Rudy Gobert two fifteen left, excuse me not,

855
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: he got a steal from Jonathan Kaminga and that turned

856
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 3: into a Rudy Gobert fast break dunk. Gobert beat Jonathan

857
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: Kaminga and he beat Kevon Looney down the floor, and

858
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: so those are like, Okay, we're winning this series. This

859
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: feels like the end of the Lakers series already where

860
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 3: we're doing this thing. If he Rudy Gobert is beating

861
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: those guys down the floor, and then he's taller than everybody,

862
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: so he'll get a tap back that let the Julius

863
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 3: Randalls pass to Anthony Edwards. Obviously the size is a problem,

864
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: but the effort was a problem right at the end.

865
00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: This was the game.

866
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: Warriors not helped out with Draymond Green fouling out with

867
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: what about four forty to go when he picked up

868
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: that sixth foul trying to block McDaniels, who was attacking

869
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: the rim on the baseline now appeared a questionable to some,

870
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: you know, minimal contact, definitely touched on, but that was

871
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: his sixth and the ones before Trey that he picked

872
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: up go either way a few of them, though there

873
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: are many other times where Draymond is getting away, probably

874
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: with a foul call on him. So if you look

875
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: at the entire games, like, well, that could have been

876
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: a foul and it wasn't. Oh that one's called a foul.

877
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: Oh that one's tough. But maybe it all evens out.

878
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: But he's just he's bad. He was bad in this

879
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: game too, in doing anything no, he did nothing.

880
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 4: And of course, honestly the killer for the Warriors because

881
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: as soon as Draymond checks out, Looney comes in. That's

882
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: when Edwards started going to the hoop. I think he

883
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 4: had a couple of layups. Right after that, another drive

884
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: got fouled and went to the free throw line. It

885
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: was just like, oh, come on, Looney, he ain't a

886
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 4: challenge for me at the rim. So once a Draymond

887
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 4: got into trouble with number four, I don't know, they

888
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: were on the line with calls. It's hard to give

889
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: Draymond the benefit of the doubt. He probably should have

890
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 4: had five fouls in this game rather than the six, right.

891
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So tonight obviously season on the line. It

892
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: feels like for the Warriors, especially as they just try

893
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: and pray and wait to hope to get Carey back.

894
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: We keep talking about like, don't worry, cur, it'll be back,

895
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: But you've got to get to those games for Curry

896
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: to be back unless the Wolves take care of business here.

897
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: But huge game that game four. It's always sort of

898
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: fun when that home team is down to one and

899
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: it's like it's their season feels on the line. It

900
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: really does, so we'll see what fight they have in them.

901
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: But it felt like, man, they let that one get away.

902
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm reiterating what you guys are saying. I does

903
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: feel I do believe that anything.

904
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 3: Else from that one from the entire game. Yeah, it's

905
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: weird to see a guy like Brandon Pajemsky not be

906
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: able to shoot anymore. Going one of ten. They like

907
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: I said, sixty three points from Butler and Jonathan Aminga.

908
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: That is an accomplishment. You need somebody, And you know,

909
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: Heal was okay and Dream was not there and Brandon

910
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 3: Pajemsky was not there, So that part is odd and

911
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: that just makes me believe that it's all over here

912
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: because they need to win one without Steph Curry and

913
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: who knows when Steph Curry is coming back? So I

914
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: will save my note is Jonathan Kaminga not putting a

915
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: hand up on a nase red three. That's just the

916
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: most confusing thing to me. When guys don't put a

917
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: hand up on defense. I just don't get it. I

918
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: will never get it.

919
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: Cominga is a guy that could score thirty and you're like,

920
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 4: I see why he was out of the run.

921
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: Ye, Why why did Looney get dunked on when Aunt

922
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: dunked on him, that was cominga exactly watched the play.

923
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: It's like, that's a brutal close out. What are you doing?

924
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: They need his scoring, yeah, they need his scoring, but

925
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: he brings all the other cominga stuff along with them.

926
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: We need we need a montage of guys not putting

927
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: their hands up, and it's actually, yeah, why not Mark

928
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: Jackson stuff. It is nuts just from the postseason. It's

929
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: it's nuts to see it. Lebron did it. I guess

930
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: he's trying to throw off Julius Randall in the first round,

931
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: and you saw.

932
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: That if you're not gonna put you don't get at

933
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: least do the Jose Calderon defense. He was a clapper

934
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: some it works, yeah right, yeah, yeah, I creative.

935
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: I could be wrong. We saw who was it. I

936
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: guess in the Denver, Okay see game, like Michael Porter

937
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: Junior was like so open, he's too open to shoot.

938
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 3: You know that's a good defense, is too open? Just

939
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: back up or jump like your Luke Cornett from like

940
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: fifteen feet away. I mean, there's there's different different defenses

941
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: for three point shots, but I hate them. I hate

942
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 3: the non handout.

943
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: Guys are tired. That's what it comes down to. Let's

944
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: talk briefly here about the Celtics crushing the Knicks one

945
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: to fifteen ninety three. They cut New York's lead to

946
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: two to one in the East semis. Celtics shot a

947
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: little bit better from three You what a surprise, right, yeah,

948
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: a little bit twenty for forty. I think they were

949
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: from three point range in Game three, after going just

950
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: twenty five for one hundred in their two losses. They

951
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: made their first four to three pointers there on Saturday

952
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 2: and never really slowed down. They were six to seven

953
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: behind the arc in the first quarter. They had their

954
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: highest scoring first quarter of the postseason. And you know,

955
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: there was times when the Knicks tried put together the

956
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: little comeback, but the but Missoula was on it quick

957
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 2: timeouts when it was cut to like seventeen or eighteen,

958
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: like not this time. So you know, look, we knew

959
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: this was gonna happen. It just happens here in Game

960
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: three for the most expensive ticket in town, which you

961
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: also probably could see coming up.

962
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 4: Honestly, hater's paradise to see this happen to the Knicks.

963
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: Tough stuff.

964
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: People were talking this up is the biggest game in

965
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 4: twenty five years, and they got smoked, destroyed.

966
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 5: By the end of the first quarter.

967
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 4: Everybody knew, like you're saying, the threes, we're gonna drop eventually.

968
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 4: The good thing for the Knicks is that they've gotten

969
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: two bad shooting games from the Celtics and they were

970
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: able to win both of those games because basically, if

971
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: Boston hits their threes, it doesn't matter what the other

972
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: team does.

973
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 5: Boston is gonna win.

974
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: That has been the story this season, definitely was the

975
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: story last season as well.

976
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 5: The next defense was not as good.

977
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: The Celtics loved to do a double screen up top

978
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: for their ball handlers. The Knicks were pretty good defending

979
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: it in games one and two. In this game, they

980
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 4: were not very good at defending it at all. Towns

981
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: was just way too far back, basically at the free

982
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: throw a line, so you're giving step into a three

983
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: point shots to Jalen Brown, to Jason Tatum, guys that

984
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 4: want to shoot that shot, and they made them in

985
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: this game. I thought Jalen Brown's post up game was

986
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: given the next a ton of trouble as well. He

987
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 4: would get down usually would have Brunton on him in

988
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: the post, bash him in them. A couple of times

989
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: they send help swing swing, somebody's hitting a wide open three.

990
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: Pritchard was awesome in this game, had a really good

991
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: first half. Finished with twenty three, but thirteen in the

992
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: first half, had a couple of assists, had a couple

993
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 4: of threes, catch and shoot, drive and kick. They were

994
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 4: just playing Celtics basketball and the jump shots were actually

995
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 4: going in. So they made twenty threes compared to twenty

996
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 4: five through games one and two.

997
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 5: It's that simple.

998
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Pritchard definitely, I thought like robbed MSG of

999
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: their energy right because he was hitting those threes. He

1000
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: was actively looking for a shot, like he was playing

1001
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: with some freedom. There was no doubt Miziula was trying

1002
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: to get through to these guys. Look, keep gunning them,

1003
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: just do it with confidence and obviously obviously be open

1004
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: and we can get a better shot. But yeah, they

1005
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: just knocked him down again. We knew this was gonna happen,

1006
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of when. So they do it

1007
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: in this game and another twenty point lead. They've had

1008
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: a twenty point lead in every game. Task the Knicks

1009
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: are gonna need to stop that even though they're up

1010
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: to one, they're gonna have to change that part where

1011
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: they're down twenty in game four and moving forward here

1012
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: to win this.

1013
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it look like then Knicks were getting way away

1014
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 3: from the ball handlers, like Kat was sagging, and even

1015
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 3: the guys guarding the ball handlers weren't getting it after it.

1016
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: Maybe they were just like, okay, well you guys weren't

1017
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: hitting shots in game one game too, we want one

1018
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: pass shot possessions. Obviously, nothing nothing worked in this game. Yeah,

1019
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: the effort wasn't there defensively. Yeah, Peyton Pritchard, he may

1020
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: have sucked the energy out of MSG, but that guy's

1021
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: been really good in this series. He's been banging home threes.

1022
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: He's the one guy who's been pretty consistent through three games.

1023
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: That being said, yeah, I don't know what happens with Kat.

1024
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: He's not on the injury report here. Even though we

1025
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: saw him shake his hand. You saw everybody on the

1026
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: internet doing the little reading in his mouth, reading his lips.

1027
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: I broke it. It sure looked like he said, for

1028
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: his left hand, which is in his non shooting hand obviously,

1029
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 3: so maybe it's okay, but it looks like he's playing

1030
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: through it because he's gonna tough it out. So maybe

1031
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: that's a good thing for the next We're gonna play

1032
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: hard for that guy he's playing with a broken hand,

1033
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: because it definitely looks like I mean, it's something that

1034
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: he was favoring the entire game.

1035
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Also worst game for Mitchell Robinson in this series

1036
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: so far. Had played pretty well in games one and two,

1037
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: but you know that didn't work out. In Games three,

1038
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: they just decided to do the whole foul him thing again,

1039
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: especially you know, in the penalty, and it paid off.

1040
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: He was four to twelve at the free throw line

1041
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: and you know, another airball of this guy, and you know,

1042
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: again that's a thing that just like deflates the crowd

1043
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: a little bit, especially when he's not hitting them and

1044
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: you're like, oh god, what's going on now? Do we

1045
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: have to get him off as well? So they continue

1046
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: with that. I Mean, the self is just stuck with

1047
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: what was working in games one too, even though they

1048
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: were down oh two, Like our offense, our shots are

1049
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: three pointers and our strategy even with him, and it

1050
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: paid off in this one as they built the big

1051
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 2: lead and never really were in you know, in any

1052
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: scare of giving up this one TK.

1053
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 5: No, not at all.

1054
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: Uh.

1055
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 4: They definitely played the same style. There's they were probably

1056
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: smarter about how they went about getting threes. I thought

1057
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: most of their shots in games with one and two

1058
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 4: were pretty solid as well. Some of them were hurried,

1059
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: but there was definitely an intentional let's get in the

1060
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: lane and play our driving kick style.

1061
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 5: They were great.

1062
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 4: Horford I thought was awesome in this game. Fifteen points

1063
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: and nine rebounds, and he just looked like the fastest

1064
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 4: guy on the court during the second half, because it

1065
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 4: was like a three parade in the first half, and

1066
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: then it seemed like a track meet more so in

1067
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 4: the second half, and Horford had a lot of energy

1068
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: to be beaten.

1069
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 5: Robinson and Towns down.

1070
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: The court Missoula. The quote after the game still down

1071
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 2: to one. Of course in the serious but you've got

1072
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: to tap into your darkness. This guy's all about the

1073
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: darkness right now and the hole that they are.

1074
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 5: He believes in a thing called love.

1075
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: Nice reference.

1076
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 3: Did we hear that we did? Yeah?

1077
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: Good, we did.

1078
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 5: I think we heard all three guitar solo.

1079
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: He did like to play a lot of the song.

1080
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Would the whole song no problem? But then again, like,

1081
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you when the crowds go that crazy?

1082
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1083
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: Exactly, all right? Any other notes?

1084
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 5: I got a couple.

1085
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 4: You could tell how Horford was fired up because he

1086
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 4: jumped too early on the opening tip twice.

1087
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: That was funny but not illegal. It's like, should be

1088
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: like hockey to me, because you can't do that and

1089
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: swap them out. Yeah, that's a good idea. You can't

1090
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: just keep jumping.

1091
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 5: He should have kept helping.

1092
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: Just every time. I get it right.

1093
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 5: I think the Knicks did they get the tip?

1094
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: I think they did. Yeah, I think yeah.

1095
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 4: They did, they did get I was thinking about JD

1096
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 4: a lot every time they would cut to the Knicks

1097
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 4: outside party, like outside of MSG, tons of people packed

1098
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 4: and it's right in front of a pickleball Can you

1099
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: imagine if you made your your reservation for like four

1100
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 4: o'clock on Saturday, like, oh, well, go down to the

1101
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 4: club place and pickleball.

1102
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 5: You show up and there's eighty thousand.

1103
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: In front of the entrance.

1104
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: I think worldwide tweet also, like you imagine showing up

1105
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: for your pickleball game today? Well, you were living this

1106
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: weekend because we had so much rain here, Oh.

1107
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 3: My god, Saturday I was editing a pickleball video instead

1108
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: of playing.

1109
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: Oh, well, we're gonna show you that in a second

1110
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: that's coming out. Yeah yeah, anything else that one.

1111
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: Well, if you want to be positive, you can say

1112
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: the Knicks haven't won or excuse me, the Celtics haven't

1113
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: won a clutch game in this series yet, and they

1114
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: weren't banging home threes in a clutch situation here because

1115
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: it was a blowout. So if the Knicks just make

1116
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: it close in the fourth quarter, we'll have some fun.

1117
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to save. Positive for the

1118
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: Knicks is they have not had a good offensive game

1119
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: either in this series, like they haven't like and they

1120
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: were a really good offense this year. That could be

1121
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: unlocked for one of these games.

1122
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: For sure.

1123
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: You are a little worried about the cat injury and

1124
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: how much of the effect that is had on him,

1125
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: because I think he's been pretty pretty bad sort of

1126
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: overall in this He used to add he was taking

1127
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: some bombs there. He was like getting even deeper and

1128
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: deeper with some of those three point attempts on Saturday,

1129
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: but not really falling all that much.

1130
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm a twenty one and fifteen game for him

1131
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: even though he good numbers, but he missed a lot

1132
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: of shots.

1133
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: He's like five of eighteen and you guys were talking

1134
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: about the defensive drop like way under.

1135
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: The defense was the problem. Yeah, he wasn't taking a

1136
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: ton of threes in this one. Only five eighteen shots.

1137
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 5: That's a lot for him. You've taken two in the

1138
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 5: first two games total. There you go.

1139
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I but.

1140
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: Okay, So Celtics are still down to one. Yeah, but

1141
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 4: they're acting like they won the series Celtics.

1142
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: Fans, Yeah, yeah, they definitely are.

1143
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 5: They could be down three to one very easily after

1144
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 5: getting four.

1145
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: They're good, they could. I mean they feel that way

1146
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: because they've led for like ninety percent of this series. Yeah,

1147
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: so you'll understand the reasoning and the defending champs, and

1148
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: you know they are I think, on paper the better

1149
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: team maybe like in terms of just top end talent

1150
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. You're not wrong though, that's the

1151
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: vibe from them.

1152
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: This is a Bean town thing. You know, we play bad,

1153
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: play a little bad in a series. It's gonna happen.

1154
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: But whoa would you see us in game three? We're

1155
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: back baby? So I think that's the that's the feeling

1156
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: all right.

1157
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: Well, game four? When is that tonight?

1158
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course Eastern.

1159
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, right after the draft lottery perfect segue.

1160
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five. NBA Draft Lottery tonight in Chicago. That

1161
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: might be good for TK. Drawings will be conducted to

1162
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: determine the first four picks in the draft using fourteen

1163
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: pingpong balls number one through fourteen and that lottery machine

1164
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: they use. The remainder of the lottery. Teams will select

1165
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 2: in positions five through fourteen based on regular season records

1166
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: in descending order. Here's a quick look at the lottery

1167
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: teams and their odds of winning the number one pick. Now,

1168
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: that Sun's pick that's going to.

1169
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: The Rockets, Okay, nice, nice trade.

1170
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Hawks pick that's going to the Spurs. And

1171
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: that Kings pick is top twelve protected, so you know

1172
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: they jump up here they're keeping that Otherwise, if it's

1173
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: at the bottom, that'll be on its way out. But look,

1174
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: there's no need to wait to find out who wins

1175
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: the number one pick, because over the weekend we used

1176
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: the power of pickleball to predict who is going to

1177
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: win tonight's NBA Draft lottery. Let's roll the tape. No

1178
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: Dunks is back to predict the twenty twenty five NBA

1179
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: Draft Lottery winner, and this year we're doing it. Pickle

1180
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: ball stop in this hopper one hundred labeled balls representing

1181
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: the unique lottery odds of all the teams. The Jazz,

1182
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: the Wizards, the Hornets. They got fourteen balls in here.

1183
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: Teams below them they got fewer. The first ball that

1184
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: JD hits into Trey Herby's toilet hat is the winner.

1185
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 5: Good luck you got this JD.

1186
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 3: Oh first one? Oh oh oh.

1187
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: Hold might not take long. I'm gonna set me dead ball.

1188
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 2: It felt like that was a dead ball.

1189
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: Oh okay, nope, walls, Oh like a drop man. You

1190
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: haven't hit that the islet?

1191
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: Has he touched horses? I have ball ball heldo. We

1192
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: got lots we got Oh that's my angle. Theyn't light touch,

1193
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: no placement? Okay, here when you went closer than.

1194
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 5: That, I got one hundred bulls.

1195
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: I don't worry. I don't worry. Oh oh fuck, I'll

1196
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 3: get excited.

1197
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: Oh zero, I go, he's zero again. He's getting dialed.

1198
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: That ard put it.

1199
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 5: I saw the win.

1200
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: I thought the n I don't know who he wants

1201
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: to see.

1202
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 3: And the winner of the twenty twenty five NBA Draft

1203
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: Lottery is.

1204
00:51:48,000 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: So you don't, yes, So there it is the Utah

1205
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: Jazz we predict will win the Draft lottery tonight, obviously

1206
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: one of the teams with the best chances to get

1207
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: the number one pick at fourteen percent, along with a

1208
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: few other teams. Let's see if we can get it

1209
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: correct again, because we have done this, not the pick

1210
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 2: a ball variety, but we have correctly called the winner

1211
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: before over a very long time. But two or three times,

1212
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: I want to say, I know we did it a

1213
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: couple of years ago with Paolo and the magic trey

1214
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: pulled out even though it took like eight attempts to

1215
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: pull out an egg the egg, but we did get

1216
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: there and the magic one and then way back you

1217
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: in a shower once with an industrial fan and a

1218
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: bunch of paper did pull the calves one of the

1219
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: year's day one. I couldn't remember if there was one

1220
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 2: other time.

1221
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 3: It was Mightyo's showers personal shower.

1222
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his person.

1223
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: Never I've never showered in that shower, but I have

1224
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: picked the right piece of paper. Yeah, so we had

1225
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 3: we had that the wind in uh in the starter's days. Yeah,

1226
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 3: in the studio, and you got that one right too.

1227
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 5: Sixers maybe like mark a false draft.

1228
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I think it's three times we've correctly.

1229
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: Yes, it sounds right. Yeah, yeah, I feel like we

1230
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: had a malfunction, bad take on that first one. So

1231
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: wherever I picked on the first one had to go

1232
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 3: back into the hobber, and then we picked the second one.

1233
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: Well, can happily say no reason on this pickleball video

1234
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: and JD you edited a beauty there, I thought, And

1235
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: great shooting too.

1236
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Thanks, that says that shot and pickleball is you're

1237
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: trained not to do that. You want to pop it

1238
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: up like and like hit it mid like you're dead

1239
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: if you do that in the actual game.

1240
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: Should we have had you smashing you at Kirby instead

1241
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: try and bank it off the.

1242
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: I mean it occurred to me, take off his shirt,

1243
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: let's get a welt him up ice chest style. But

1244
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 3: you know he didn't. He didn't lose a pick and

1245
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: payoff or anything. So point that's a good pick off. Next.

1246
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, time just get pelted.

1247
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: It won't be it will be Rachel doing it.

1248
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: Crazy out there.

1249
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: I did.

1250
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: I gotta come you for when we do get the

1251
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: leggie slash wedgie there like I thought. I thought it

1252
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 2: was going to fall off because it looked more on

1253
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: the side. I mean, it was closer to me, but

1254
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to fall towards me and

1255
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 2: not in. But you you did not move an inch

1256
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: statue as I mean I was doing the joke like

1257
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: blowing on it. I don't think I was having any impact.

1258
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how. I don't know why.

1259
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: But you just steeped like steady as a rock and

1260
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: then it like, yeah, just just fell in.

1261
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 5: That was beautiful.

1262
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: So we'll see beautiful well, I guess. I guess from

1263
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: from our perspective, we either want the Utajas to win, yes,

1264
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: because then the video will go viral, or we want

1265
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: the Toronto Raptors to win. With a seven point five

1266
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: percent chance, I did have some people asking me when

1267
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: we were making the balls, and by the way, there

1268
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: was one hundred balls in there, all representative, but seven

1269
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: point five percent, how do you do that? I put

1270
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: eight in there, don't you? And then or the bulls

1271
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: with being in Chicago, what'd you say having the Derek

1272
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: Rose ods, they got the Derreck Rose could they do

1273
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: it again?

1274
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 5: Point seven percent chance? That was to Chicago there as well.

1275
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, well that's fair.

1276
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 5: Had the round up. The widest moment in show history

1277
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 5: there pickleball.

1278
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, a pickleball draft lottery where the Utah Jazz won

1279
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 4: the right to draft Cooper.

1280
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they ain't gonna be.

1281
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 5: Fat if all.

1282
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: We were wearing cowboy boots.

1283
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 5: Exactly right, were listening to the Vampire Weekend poop.

1284
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: I do, I mean, I really hope it is go

1285
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: to the Jazz night because like you're wearing a toilet hat.

1286
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: We're even screaming like pooper flag, Pooper flag, like it's

1287
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Speaker 2: super Coop. It's so good, all right, So we'll find

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Speaker 2: out that's at six third excuse me, that's at seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock tonight. I said six thirty because we're gona jump

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Speaker 2: on play back a little bit early to live react

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Speaker 2: to the draft lottery. So if you want to join

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Speaker 2: us on playback, that link is in the show notes.

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Speaker 2: We'll go live again around six thirty, stay for the hour,

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Speaker 2: and then obviously we'll get excited and watch the games,

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Speaker 2: but we'll see who wins night. So join us on

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Speaker 2: playback could be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tiny part of me wants the Rockets to win

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Speaker 3: via the Sun's pick because of that very sly three

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Speaker 3: team deal that they made a year ago. That nobody

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Speaker 3: rarely remembers that the Rockets were able to acquire a

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Speaker 3: pick swap. They were just being super smart. So if

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Speaker 3: you get matt Ishbia to eat that, I mean that

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Speaker 3: that would be so tough for Phoenix Suns fans. That

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Speaker 3: would be incredibly tough just because you traded this pick swap.

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Speaker 3: That would be so smart of Raphael Stone in the

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Speaker 3: Rockets to get the number one.

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Speaker 2: What about even the Rockets jumping like into the top

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Speaker 2: four with that pick, with that Sons pick, because then

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk about this probably tomorrow or this coming week.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of reports here janis open

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Speaker 2: minded about exploring whether his best long term fit is

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Speaker 2: in Milwaukee or playing elsewhere. So my point is, you know,

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Speaker 2: Rockets have been a team that people have brought up

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Speaker 2: about Giannis. You know, you suddenly have us two three pick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, oh man, you can sweeten the package there.

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Speaker 5: Quite spicy to go get them.

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Speaker 4: So I don't remember the seats they got that pick

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Speaker 4: from the Nets, right, that swap Son's pick, because I

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Speaker 4: think the Sons pick went in the Kevin Durant trade

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Speaker 4: with Cam Johnson with Michale Bridges. So yeah, the Rockets

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Speaker 4: getting into the top four with a Sun's pick over

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Speaker 4: the Nets would be kind of the ultimate kick in

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Speaker 4: the nuts for two franchises.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what else do we watching tonight? I guess

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Speaker 2: the Sixers could drop and lose their pick to the

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Speaker 2: Thunder if they fall out of the top six. They

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Speaker 2: would need a couple teams to jump ahead of them

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Speaker 2: to bump down, but it's possible that they could obviously

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Speaker 2: lose that pick. And I went over a few of

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Speaker 2: the other ones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Atlanta has a point seven percent chance of jumping

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Speaker 4: to number one, but it's an unprotected pick, which would

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Speaker 4: mean the Spurs would get to draft Cooper Flag right

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Speaker 4: after having the two previous rookies of the year.

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Speaker 5: So that's something that would.

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Speaker 2: Do something crazy. Yeah, a lot could go down tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out again at seven on ESPN, but join

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Speaker 2: us at six thirty on playback, and otherwise we'll be

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Speaker 2: back here to talk about that and the two games

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Speaker 2: on tonight till then, Clipper bros.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time.

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Speaker 5: Turn up love you guys.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, thanks for joining us, and remember basketball is great.

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Speaker 2: YEP, race today people,