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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. It is the local Toyota Dealers KSR postgame show.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky with an embarrassing loss tonight to Michigan State in

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Speaker 1: the Champions Classic eighty three sixty six. A terrible performance

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Speaker 1: that I think raises a lot of questions about the

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Speaker 1: season and a lot more. Well, you can give us

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Speaker 1: a shout. We'll open up the phones at the end

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Speaker 1: of the segment. I don't know, there's a lot I

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Speaker 1: want to say, so it's it's hard to even know

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Speaker 1: where to start. Let's start with just the basketball part

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Speaker 1: of it. This was just an absolutely atrocious performance by Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: I mean, whatever statistic you want to measure, Kentucky was

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Speaker 1: outplay shooting percentage two points. For Michigan State they shoot

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Speaker 1: fifty percent, they shoot fifty percent from three. We shoot

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Speaker 1: thirty five from two to twenty three percent from three.

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Speaker 1: We are out rebounded forty two to twenty eight. That's awful.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five assists for Michigan State, nine or thirteen for us.

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Speaker 1: Just just a terrible performance. It looked uninspired and it

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Speaker 1: looked discombobulated, which was a word that Pope actually used

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Speaker 1: in the postgame press conference, and it was awful, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Pope's comments, but I'll just

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Speaker 1: say from my end, that looked like a team that

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Speaker 1: a I don't want to say, was not ready to

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Speaker 1: play because their best seven minutes of the game were

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Speaker 1: the first seven minutes. But they were out coached, they

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Speaker 1: were out hustled, and Michigan State under Tom Izzo, to me,

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Speaker 1: is a team that is a mirror to who you are,

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Speaker 1: Like you find out who you are when you play

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Speaker 1: Michigan State, because at least in the last decade, they've

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Speaker 1: never had the most talented team. They've never they've never

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Speaker 1: actually even been I don't think they've been top five

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Speaker 1: or ten in a number of years. But what they

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Speaker 1: do is they are fundamental. They rebound, they play defense,

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Speaker 1: They make the right play, and if you whatever it

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Speaker 1: is that you do poorly, they will reflect it. They

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Speaker 1: are a mirror to you, and tonight they mirrored and

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Speaker 1: showed that this team is way off the margin. You know,

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Speaker 1: last year we said about Kentucky that the hole was

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Speaker 1: greater than the sum of the parts, and I actually

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Speaker 1: think that was true. Even though you know, the record

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Speaker 1: was not amazing. I thought they had really a better

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Speaker 1: year than even the players they had. This team is

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Speaker 1: less than the sum of the parts. This team right

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Speaker 1: now is much worse than they should be. Kind of

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Speaker 1: on all ends. I am shocked at how bad they

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Speaker 1: are defensively. Really, I'm shocked at how bad they are defensively.

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Speaker 1: They can't guard anybody they gave. They clearly had a

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Speaker 1: game plan to try to force Michigan State to take jumpers,

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Speaker 1: and they made a lot of threes at the beginning,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't really adjust, and when we did, we

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Speaker 1: were just out hustled at other positions. They got any

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Speaker 1: shot they wanted pretty much the entire game. And defensively,

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Speaker 1: I always worried this team wouldn't be a great three

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Speaker 1: point shooting team, but I never thought they'd be bad defensively.

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Speaker 1: And tonight, with arguably your worst defender hurt, which is

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Speaker 1: Jalen Lowe, you should have been great defensively, and they

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Speaker 1: were awful. And then first half just I bleeding bad.

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Speaker 1: When you let Michigan State you fifty percent from the

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Speaker 1: how you can you know, how you can let that

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Speaker 1: happen with the roster that Mark Pope has. He said

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Speaker 1: in his postgame comments, we have good players, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not getting getting out of them what we need to.

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Speaker 1: I think they probably are missing some star power, but

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Speaker 1: that doesn't explain tonight's performance. You shouldn't lose like they

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Speaker 1: lost tonight, no matter with quaintance out low. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't. You should have. You should not lose by

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Speaker 1: seventeen to Michigan State in a game you're never really

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Speaker 1: roster is at Kentucky. So it's on Pope. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to the for the most part, he has accepted that

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Speaker 1: sitting there Watt as I was at halftime, sort of

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Speaker 1: thinking about the deficit we had created. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about all these big games over the years, over these

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Speaker 1: two years where Pope has had these huge deficits. To

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Speaker 1: come back from now. Tonight, that happened, But then we

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Speaker 1: put the starters back in and they were worse. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the worst plus minuses on the team for this game

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Speaker 1: a performance that raises a lot of questions when the

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Speaker 1: game was over. When the game was over, I was

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Speaker 1: sitting there watching. First of all, Mark Pope took fifty

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Speaker 1: the press conference. I've been covering UK a long time.

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Speaker 1: That's the longest I've ever seen a coach take to

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Speaker 1: come out after a losing performance. I can't remember that

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Speaker 1: ever happening, and he sounded just defeated. And I want

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Speaker 1: to read you some of these quotes. I give Mark

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Speaker 1: credit for, I guess openness sort of, but then in

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Speaker 1: some ways he wasn't open. He started by saying, we're

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Speaker 1: disappointed and discouraged and completely discombobulated. Now, Billy, I give

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Speaker 1: him credit for alliteration on that, yeah, but he sounded

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Speaker 1: he seems to internalize it so much that he becomes

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Speaker 1: It's hard to see him like that, And that's kind

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Speaker 1: of how I felt tonight. Here are some quotes from

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Speaker 1: the postgame. There was one team that was really well

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Speaker 1: not resonating with the guys right now. I got to

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Speaker 1: take the hit for this. I've got skilled, talented players

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Speaker 1: he's correct about all of that. He clearly knows that

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Speaker 1: this has been kind of an abysmal start for the

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Speaker 1: press conference though by saying we will not fail this

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Speaker 1: fail this season. That's strong words. That's a quote that

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Speaker 1: That conversation with Tom Leach is ultimately your message to

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Speaker 1: the fans. The fans don't hear the press conference. They

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Speaker 1: snippets that media puts out, but the radio part is

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Speaker 1: directly to the fans. And I gotta tell you, Billy,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't have been more disappointed in his comments. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't have been more disappointed in the way Mark

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Speaker 1: handled that one word answers. He wasn't rude to Tom,

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Speaker 1: like there were times that you know, you go back

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Speaker 1: in history, Billy Gillespie would be rude to Tom. Cow

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be rude, but he'd sometimes be short. Work wasn't that.

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Speaker 1: But he was like not at all open and seemed

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Speaker 1: to completely forget that there's a fan base like yearning

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Speaker 1: to hear what he says. And it was epitomized when

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Speaker 1: Tom said, what I thought was a very good question,

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Speaker 1: what did you tell your guys in the locker room

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Speaker 1: after the game? And he said, we told them a

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Speaker 1: That's a horrible answer. If cal had said that, I

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Speaker 1: Your fans are sitting there waiting for you. How can

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, starting with the Louisville pregame,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the last ten days have been a

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Speaker 1: different person. The whole cryptic messaging of what happened in

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Speaker 1: don't know about Jalen Lowe really at all. He had

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Speaker 1: some weird comments in the pregame and then this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that I mean, I don't think they've turned on Pope

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Speaker 1: And I don't believe we told them a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I felt bad for Tom. I mean we waited a

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Speaker 1: I mean Pope talked for what three minutes? You guys

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Speaker 1: So you know what worries me about this is he

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Speaker 1: looks like a coach that doesn't have an answer for

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Speaker 1: all this, that just doesn't have an answer. And you know,

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Speaker 1: this job's hard. There's a lot on this job. There's

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Speaker 1: it's a big job. And loo winning here is the

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Speaker 1: best thing in the world, but losing here stinks. All Right,

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Speaker 1: Our fans can be really hard, we can be really great,

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Speaker 1: of the major ways you measure coaches success on the

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Speaker 1: You're playing on their home floor. You know, they get

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Speaker 1: like I get it. But this this was a disaster

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. I'm very disappointed. I'm not giving

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Speaker 1: of problems on this team. They don't defend, they can't

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Speaker 1: like each other. I don't know that there's chemistry issues,

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Speaker 1: but does that look like a team that likes each other.

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Speaker 1: There were reports that Brandon Garrison and a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys were jawn at each other on the bench. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me because they don't play like a group

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Speaker 1: They seemed like completely different pages guys. Just I mean,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. So it really has in ten days kind

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Speaker 1: But I did not think they would be this bad.

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Speaker 1: I thought they would lose to Louisville. I didn't think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one quote from that radio interview he did, he said,

429
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Speaker 2: we're not in this for each other, right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, for a person that's preached that that's concerning, that's right.

431
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: They're not and they don't seem to like each other. Now.

432
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say there's a chemistry is shee

433
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Speaker 1: because I don't know, but they don't seem to like

434
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Speaker 1: each other. And the reality is you you hear a

435
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff. I don't know what of it is true,

436
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Speaker 1: but I do know this. You've heard me say this,

437
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Speaker 1: so sometimes I feel like I've done this so long.

438
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Speaker 1: I repeat myself. But silence the void will be filled

439
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Speaker 1: by noise. So when you say nothing, the void will

440
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Speaker 1: be filled by noise. And when Mark Pope said something

441
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Speaker 1: happened in the Louisville locker room and didn't say what

442
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Speaker 1: it was, you asked for what's happening? Right now you're

443
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Speaker 1: asking for it. Who's next, Tyler? Tyler, go ahead, Tyler. Man.

444
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Speaker 5: I wish he was on better terms, but it's good

445
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Speaker 5: to talk to you tonight.

446
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Speaker 1: Man.

447
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Speaker 5: You took one of my bigger points, which is the

448
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Speaker 5: fact that you know, we have two games where we

449
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Speaker 5: played good teams and the only thing that we have

450
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Speaker 5: to look back to this what happened with Louisville pregame

451
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Speaker 5: and he didn't say much, but it's like, okay, what

452
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 5: happened must have been horrible because we got beat by

453
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Speaker 5: U of L and we looked horrible. And the night

454
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Speaker 5: we looked bad. We looked worse, honestly, which I don't

455
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Speaker 5: think was possible.

456
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Speaker 1: Oh we did look hard, worse, no doubt, we looked worse.

457
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Speaker 1: Good teams, like really good teams could have lost to

458
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Speaker 1: Louisville that night the way we lost, right, good teams

459
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Speaker 1: don't lose like this to that team.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I got that was one of my big points.

461
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Speaker 5: You took it. So I got, I got two more,

462
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Speaker 5: and if if I only get one, that's fine. But

463
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Speaker 5: I was looking. I didn't watch a whole lot of

464
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Speaker 5: the game. I kind of stopped anyway through the first

465
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Speaker 5: half because I was like, I'm not doing this for

466
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Speaker 5: myself tonight. But in the stats, like so as you

467
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Speaker 5: could understand. So one of the big stats that pointed

468
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Speaker 5: out to me was that Michigan said twenty five assists

469
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Speaker 5: on thirty two Maye shots. Tonight, we only had thirteen

470
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Speaker 5: assists on twenty made shots, and against Louisville, Louisville had

471
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Speaker 5: twenty assists on thirty one shots and we had fourteen

472
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Speaker 5: assists on thirty two shots. And obviously, again with with

473
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Speaker 5: the UFO game, it's signed as big of a discription,

474
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Speaker 5: but that tells me, like whatever offense it is supposed

475
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 5: to be, it was supposed to need to watch it.

476
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Speaker 5: Like I watched Mark Pope make a signal for play

477
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Speaker 5: once tonight and it resulted in Jasper Johnson having a

478
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Speaker 5: step back three and I was like, I don't know

479
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Speaker 5: what he was trying to signal.

480
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Speaker 1: I don't know what that's what he wanted.

481
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Speaker 5: And so whatever offense we're trying to run, it ain't working.

482
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Speaker 5: And whatever the offense that Michigan State or the opponent

483
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Speaker 5: is trying to run, either we're not scouting it, or

484
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Speaker 5: even if we do scout it, we're not ready for

485
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Speaker 5: what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: And I like it makes me I think if we

487
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Speaker 1: scouted them decently well, because we scored, like remember we

488
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Speaker 1: scored we had seventeen points in the first six and

489
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Speaker 1: a half minutes, Yeah, and then we scored what twelve

490
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Speaker 1: the rest the like next third team minutes, so we

491
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Speaker 1: basically yeah. So I think what happens is I think

492
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: we've scout okay, but then adjustments, which I thought would

493
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Speaker 1: be the thing he was the best at, have not

494
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Speaker 1: been good.

495
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Speaker 5: And the adjustments last year for the most part good.

496
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Speaker 5: What I'll say is and I'll I'll and I'll be

497
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Speaker 5: done after this. But I saw a tweet and I

498
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Speaker 5: agreed with it, and I pointed this out to my

499
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Speaker 5: dad when I was watching the game. Was we started

500
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Speaker 5: well against both Louisville and the not against Michigan State.

501
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Speaker 5: But then like kind of, I feel like the first

502
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 5: media timeout, we gave up two big runs that were

503
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Speaker 5: pretty much impossible to come back from. And that doesn't

504
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 5: make that doesn't make all wise sense to me.

505
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Speaker 1: Well it doesn't, it does. It does to me with

506
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Speaker 1: one thing, and I appreciate the call. I hate his

507
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: mass substitutions. I hated him last year. I hate him

508
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: this year. I hate five in five out. We're not

509
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: good enough. We weren't good enough last year, We're not

510
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: good enough this year. There's a big drop off between

511
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: the starters and the reserves. And I don't know why

512
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: we insist on doing that. Against Louisville. I think it

513
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: was extremely obvious tonight. Same thing now. The starters when

514
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: they came back in didn't do any better. Uh So,

515
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean I can't, but I hate the mass substitutions.

516
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: Hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it. Other teams

517
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: don't do that. I just I hate it. We're not

518
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: good enough for that. We're like, and we did that

519
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: last year, and oftentimes it happened last year. I just

520
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't know why that's. I mean, he's clearly his philosophy.

521
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Speaker 1: He talks about collecting data, and I get all that,

522
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: but we may not be good enough to collect data

523
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Speaker 1: this year. We may have to, you know, stay with

524
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Speaker 1: teams early, because I mean, we got down twenty in

525
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: the first half, and you know, games most of the

526
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: time over at that point. Who's next, Mike, Mike, go ahead, Mike.

527
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Speaker 5: Man.

528
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Speaker 6: If you had told me that in nineteen ninety five

529
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Speaker 6: Note to eighty six, that Mark Pope was going to

530
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Speaker 6: be a head basketball.

531
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Speaker 3: Coach, it had caused basketball coach.

532
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Speaker 6: I would not have thought that he would have trouble

533
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 6: teaching teams how to defend because he was a gruntwork

534
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 6: player when he played.

535
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Speaker 1: He was Yeah, I would have thought.

536
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Speaker 6: I would have thought, you know, he and the people

537
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 6: that are in their late twenties early thirties that never

538
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 6: that didn't see him. You go back and watch those games.

539
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 6: He was the he was the glue guy. He he battled.

540
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 6: So it's it's surprising to me that this is his

541
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Speaker 6: coaching style.

542
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Speaker 1: So it's surprising to me, and and and he clearly

543
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: knew like his weakness last year was defense. But what

544
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: it seems to be that we have done is that

545
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: we then recruited a team to fix the weakness. But

546
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: they're just as bad on defense without the good offense,

547
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: which is not like he got rid of shooting, of

548
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: ability to play defense, and the defense isn't any better,

549
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: and we now don't have the shooting ability.

550
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Speaker 6: And I'm sorry, man, Like yes, playing ten, eleven, twelve guys.

551
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 6: I know people will say it's an embarrassment the riches,

552
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 6: but it's a miserable thing to do because you need

553
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 6: seven guys.

554
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah again, you're eight to ninth guy.

555
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 6: You're eight to nine guys or for injuries, in foul

556
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 6: trouble or.

557
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: When somebody or when somebody doesn't play well. You know,

558
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I'm I'm kind of with you

559
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: on that. I I always thought Cal probably played one

560
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: or too few guys, and I kind of think Pope

561
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: may play one or two too many guys. But you know,

562
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: our starters has got to be better if we're going

563
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: to play these starters. I mean, I I just I

564
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: can't get over how bad for most of this game.

565
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: They looked I just I don't understand why they are

566
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: so bad defensively. It really is, it really is frustrating.

567
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: If I'm nine two eighth, twenty two eighty seven, Uh,

568
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: Duke leads by ten right now against Kansas. Duke's really

569
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: really good. Uh Kansas doesn't have their best player. But

570
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: both these teams look better than we did. We'll take

571
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: a break and be right back. It's a Local Toy

572
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: Dealers KSR postgame show. Welcome back. It is the Local

573
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Speaker 1: Toy Dealers KSR post game show. If I'm nine two eighth,

574
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: twenty two eighty seven, one person right on the text

575
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: machine says, Matt Mark, Pope's hurting like fans are. Maybe

576
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: that's why he was short with Tom. I mean maybe,

577
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: but sorry, you got to be better than that, right,

578
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean you do. You have to. You know, he

579
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: doesn't get the luxury that fans do of you know,

580
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: not like like this is your job, right, I mean,

581
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: being a basketball coach is great. You make a ton

582
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: of money to do something most people would pay to do.

583
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's moments that it stinks, but that's why

584
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: you're paid the money. Right, So I mean, I don't.

585
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: I used to say this with Cal like he would

586
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: skip those post games. I'm like, man, you only got

587
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: to do thirty one of these a year. Similarly, I'm

588
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean you got like so, I'm sure he's said,

589
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: but like, part of the job is dealing with sadness.

590
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Part of the job is dealing with happiness. I mean,

591
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: that's that's part of it. One person says, Travis Ford

592
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: did an interview earlier this week where he said he

593
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Speaker 1: was worried about team chemistry. What do you make of that? Well,

594
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but if he did, that's concerning

595
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: because Travis is around the team a lot because of

596
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Speaker 1: his announcing duties, So like, that's the kind of thing,

597
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: so like to if let's assume that's the case. I

598
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Speaker 1: didn't hear it, but if Travis said that, so that

599
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: would make two things tonight from people that are around

600
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: the team a lot, that would worry me. Jack Gibvens, basically,

601
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Speaker 1: if you listen to the postgame comments question the teams,

602
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: like how hard they're trying, Well, he's there every day,

603
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna listen to Jack over almost anybody when

604
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: it comes to that kind of stuff, And Travis is

605
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: not there every day, but Travis is there in preparation

606
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: for the games he calls, which he's called like three,

607
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: which means he's been there quite a bit. And if

608
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: Jack is questioning how hard they work and Travis is

609
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: questioning their chemistry, those guys have seen even more than

610
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: we have, and that worries me. Okay, that's that's officially worries.

611
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: And honestly, you can read Mark Pope's quotes and he

612
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: seems to suggest similar kind of things. And I don't

613
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: understand why chemistry would be an issue. Like if you

614
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: go back through the last twenty years and I think

615
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: of the teams that had chemistry issues, I can point

616
00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: you to the personalities that caused that. But these dude

617
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: seem like good guys. Don't seem to have particularly combative

618
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: personalities that I know of. The only person I've had

619
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: heard of kind of being a little bit can mean

620
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: a little bit difficult would be low. But he's not

621
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: even playing right now, so I don't think you can

622
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: blame him. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know

623
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: who's next, Martin, Martin, go ahead, Martin.

624
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Speaker 7: Hey, Matt, I'm just gonna I guess I echo a

625
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 7: lot what people have said, but Mark Pope definitely seems

626
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 7: a little off on the sideline. Uh just like watching

627
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 7: his body language and looking at him all through the

628
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 7: TV just looks a little off. You mentioned maybe something

629
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 7: along the lines of he can't get the team to

630
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Speaker 7: buy in, And there was a point time in the

631
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 7: game the second half where it seemed like he was

632
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 7: trying to coach up Diabat from the sideline and like

633
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 7: get him into the position, and he's just like walking

634
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 7: to where he needs to be. And I don't know.

635
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 7: That might just be me like looking into it too hard,

636
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 7: but it just seems like, why don't mean to be harsh.

637
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna sound harsh. Okay, this is gonna sound harsh.

638
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: But if Modiabat and Denzel Aberdeen, one of who's won

639
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: a national championship in Florida and one of whom was

640
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: a glue guy on a final four team at Alabama,

641
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: if you're not able to reach them, well their other

642
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: coach did, so maybe that's on you, right, you know

643
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, it's not like we're talking about

644
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: problem children. These are dudes who've been part of winning

645
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: programs that came here you're.

646
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 7: Right right, and you mentioned in this might be something

647
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 7: else just it might be a coincidence or something. But

648
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 7: like I saw, Jack Gibbons had brought in matt Matthew

649
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 7: Bradford to speak to the team, and maybe he speaks

650
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 7: to the team quite often, but he's a double amputee.

651
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 7: Uh just was involved in id explosion, and it seemed

652
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 7: like maybe that he was trying to get the team

653
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 7: motivated by like having him speak to them or something.

654
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I wouldn't I would not read too

655
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: much in that. I mean, Matthew Bradford's a great guy

656
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: and lots of people try to like, Yeah, I wouldn't

657
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: read too much in that because because like the football

658
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: team brings him in a lot. I don't know if

659
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: he's been to basketball stuff before, but Matthew's a great guy,

660
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: appreciate call it a hero, and I wouldn't read like

661
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: they need this. I think I think Mark. One of

662
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: the good things about Mark is is I think he

663
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: he gets things bigger than than sports and so but

664
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: you know he uh they I am really shocked, not

665
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: just that we've lost, but I'm really shocked where we're

666
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: talking about some of these issues we are because it

667
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: just I never would have seen that coming. Who's next?

668
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 2: I'm sure the perception change of Mark Soups and Mark

669
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: Pope over the last I.

670
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: Mean, think about that. I mean, just think about that flip.

671
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Stoops isn't necessarily out that

672
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: the woodwork had but out of the woods, not the woodwork.

673
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: But it has been a quick change. I mean, just

674
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: three weeks ago we had just gotten blown out by

675
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: Tennessee and we've beaten Perdue and now think about my

676
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: it's that's a big change. What's next? Skyler, Skyler? Go ahead, Skyler.

677
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 8: Hey, Matt, I just I want to shout out my boys,

678
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 8: Cole and Ketan on the West coast.

679
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: Hey, I just noticed.

680
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 8: Tonight a one team that played with house money and

681
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 8: the other team played afraid to lose their money. One

682
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 8: team played with a chip on their shoulder, and the

683
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 8: other team acts like, because maybe they've been there before,

684
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 8: that they're going to walk onto the court and just

685
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 8: uh and win the championship automatically. One team was compared

686
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 8: to the ninety six Wildcats, and the other team is

687
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 8: a decent Big ten Big ten foe of the Indiana Hoosiers.

688
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 8: And one team's coach was honest and articulate and acted

689
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 8: like a leader afterwards, and the other team acted. The

690
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 8: other team's coach acted, uh, I don't know, almost performatively sad,

691
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 8: and and it was like, yeah, every every bit of

692
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 8: the game, there was bad body language on the court.

693
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 8: There was like a spurt of four minutes in the

694
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 8: second half when we kind of pulled it to ten

695
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 8: and then we uh, we pulled out all of our

696
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 8: all of our players who made that run and put

697
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 8: in yellow bitch and it was terrible, you.

698
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. Performably sad. It is an interesting

699
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: word because I because I think it makes it sound

700
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: like you think he's not sad. I think it's almost

701
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: that he's too sad, you know what I mean. I

702
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: don't think Mark Pope is put Yeah, I'll put it

703
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: like this. If Mark put Pope was putting on a performance,

704
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: he put on a bad one, because I actually don't

705
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: think he won any did himself any favors in any

706
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: of those comments.

707
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 8: Okay, then maybe he needs to be a performative leader

708
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 8: in losing, because.

709
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: Right now that might be true. That might be true. Yeah,

710
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: I mean that that might actually be true. I mean,

711
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: sometimes you do have to. My mom always used the

712
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: phrase rise to the moment, and maybe he needs to

713
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: do that. Maybe you have to sit there and compose

714
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: yourself and say, Okay, I may not be in a

715
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: good place right now, but I need to be in

716
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: a good place for this team, these fans, right because

717
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I mean, I I mean, we

718
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: talked about this morning, the story that is being shared

719
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: about what happened before the game, and I have I

720
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: mean we The reality is, I don't want to speculate,

721
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: but you can't help it because he didn't say what

722
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: it was. The story that was shared is that Mark

723
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Pope was uncharacteristic in the pregame locker room, and that

724
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: kind of it put the team in a weird place,

725
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: kind of almost freaked them out a little bit. Now,

726
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not. I really

727
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but that is kind of if

728
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: you're around the program, you talk to the people on

729
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: the periphery, that's what they say. Well, I don't know

730
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: if that's true, Billy, but it seems like the most

731
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: likely explanation to me, because he's been weird besides the

732
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: locker room.

733
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: Hasn't he right, And it felt like he wanted to

734
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: take ownership for it, but he also didn't want to

735
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: say what it was. It was just strange.

736
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it seemed like he wanted to acknowledge

737
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: that he had maybe screwed it up, but he didn't

738
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: want to say what it was. So he said, we

739
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: flipped the switch too early. The story that kind of

740
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: floated around is that he came in and was kind

741
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: of being uncharacteristic, like yelling and challenging guys, and it

742
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: just kind of threw guys off and then put people

743
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: in weird spots. Now, I don't know if that's true

744
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: or not right, but let's say it was. Then you

745
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: could see a guy who realizes he messes up has

746
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: regret and it kind of snowballs. Right. Yeah, we're getting

747
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: into like who like psycho analysis? Who knows? And I

748
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: don't know the answer, But I do know this, the

749
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: dude that's been in these press conferences, it's not the

750
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: same guy that was here since last April. And I

751
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: don't know why that is. And I think all their

752
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: fans are wondering the same thing. And the team we're

753
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: watching has like all of the opposite characteristics of the

754
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: team we watched last year. Yeah, I mean, take everything

755
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: we liked about that team last year, and we're seeing

756
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: almost none of that now, including from guys that were

757
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: on both teams. We know, take the oh Way looks

758
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: like a completely different person than he did last year,

759
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: and we don't know why.

760
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you emphasize defense in the offseason and can't

761
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 2: stop anything.

762
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's next? Richard? Go ahead?

763
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 9: Well?

764
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 10: My my thing is, I don't think we're having any

765
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 10: guard you all.

766
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 11: Well, I don't think without without Jayalen, without Jail, nobody

767
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 11: can get I'm not gonna be able to forget.

768
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: His force of voice is not gonna.

769
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: He's got in.

770
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: He's the one guy who can out force voice me.

771
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let him. Go ahead, go ahead, Richard.

772
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 12: All right.

773
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 6: We don't run any plays, man, I.

774
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: Mean yeah, we do. Yeah, we did.

775
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 9: Those guys last year would rip that ball through five

776
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 9: different times to hit the wide open man.

777
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 13: We don't do that this year, and I don't.

778
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: We're not as good at it. We're running plays, We're

779
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: just I.

780
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: Don't think we try like we did last year.

781
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

782
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: The difference is, firstly, I think that team we had

783
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: last year right now, we beat this one to death.

784
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: I do for sure. Well, Jack said, all right, Rich,

785
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Man. I'd like to get in

786
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: a word. Uh, Jack said, last year, all those guys

787
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: came in with like a burning chip on their shoulder

788
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: to show that they deserve to be at Kentucky. And

789
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense to me. Kobe Braa

790
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: came from Dayton, Lamont Butler from San Diego State, right,

791
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: Andrew Carr from Wake Forest, Jackson Robinson from BYU Amari

792
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: Williams from Drexel. Right, Like these guys wanted to show

793
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: Otago was a bench player at Oklahoma. I want to

794
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: show I. And so they had a desire, like a

795
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: burn to prove that they should be here, and we're

796
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: just not seeing that right now. We're just not Let's

797
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: do one more and we'll take a break. Who's next, Hunter, Hunter,

798
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

799
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 13: Hunter, Matt Billy, It's great to talk to you guys tonight.

800
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 13: I got three quick things I'm gonna go through real quick. First,

801
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 13: I I think we na wellenschuck on Mark like there's

802
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 13: when seeing that tunnel in the pregame when he's coming

803
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 13: in there and that just look on his face like

804
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 13: I felt for him, and I'm just like, so, what's everybody.

805
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: Talking about right there? I've had a bunch of people

806
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: write me that on the text machine that I missed

807
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: the very beginning. I mean, I turned it on right

808
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: at the tip. What happened when he walked? Because I've

809
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: had a lot of people say that.

810
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 13: So they showed both coaches walking almost like in the

811
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 13: off the bus and the tunnel. They were by themselves,

812
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 13: and Izzo is just smiling like he's just doing his thing,

813
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 13: and then Mark is just head down and he has

814
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 13: this thousand yard stare and just this look of dread.

815
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 13: You can find the picture online. It's not good. It's

816
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 13: not good at all. And as soon as I saw that,

817
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 13: it was as soon as I saw that, I was like,

818
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 13: uh oh, I was like, this is I hope this

819
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 13: goes well? Like I legit lost any confidence that we

820
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 13: had in this game. Secondly, I'm curious and I'm wondering

821
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 13: because here's the thing. The coaches and the players know

822
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 13: most about the situation, and I wonder if Jalen was

823
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 13: is waiting to make his decision and waiting to see

824
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 13: how these games go, and I'm wondering if we're going

825
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 13: to get an announcement here the next day or so

826
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 13: that he's going to be having whatever that long term

827
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 13: six is for the injury, that he's gonna go with

828
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 13: that option.

829
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I worry about that. To you, I mean, I

830
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: have no reason too, So like, this is not I

831
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: appreciate the call. This is not anything I've heard, but

832
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: I do wonder about that. Like if you're jailing low

833
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: and you're sitting there thinking, Okay, what do I want

834
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: to do? You know this game didn't help with that,

835
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: or maybe he sees it and says, you know, they

836
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: need me, We do need him. I mean, like the

837
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: reality is he is a guy. Why I was so

838
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: excited about him is he's a guy. When the offense

839
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: breaks down, he can go get you buckets. And he

840
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: did it against Louisville. Now I know we missed the

841
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: free throws at the end and all that, but like

842
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: when we were doing nothing else right, he got us

843
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: going and we could have used that tonight. Completely different subject,

844
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: but the LSU coaching search is one of the funniest

845
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: things ever, Reilly. They're trying to get Lane Kiffin, So

846
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: there were apparently message board posters hanging out. They're they're

847
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: doing shifts at the Baton Rouge airport to see when

848
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: private jets take off. Oh that's just and then this

849
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry got it pop Old Daniel continues

850
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: to get personally involved in the Tigers coaching hut and

851
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: a political fundraiser in Baton Rouge tonight. Landry said he

852
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: had spoken to Lane Kiffin for almost two hours trying

853
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: to talk him into the LSU kig.

854
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: You're gonna talk him out of it?

855
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: How about that? You got the governor two hour? Could

856
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: you imagine like Andy Basheer calling the coach for two hours.

857
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it happens more than we know. I don't know.

858
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: If I'm nine two eight twenty two eighty seven. We

859
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: will take a break and we will be right back.

860
00:47:52,920 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: This is the local Toy Dealers KSR post gamship. All right.

861
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: So I just saw that tunnel video. Yeah, if I

862
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: had seen that, I think I would have quickly. Not great, confident,

863
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: not great. I mean he looks like well fake. David

864
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: Beckham says, it looks like a guy who's walking into

865
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: work who hates his job. Yeah, yeah, now, I've not

866
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: heard any of this, so I'm like, I'm gonna play this.

867
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm playing this role, meaning like this is Jeff Goodman

868
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: interviewing Mark Pope. And I've had two friends send this

869
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: to me and say this is one of the weirder

870
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: interviews they've ever heard and makes him very sad. So

871
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: it's two minutes. Mark Pope the whole time seems to

872
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: be staring at the ground. I've not heard this, so

873
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: we will all listen to this together. Okay, here we go.

874
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 14: All right, Mark, this is probably, I think as down

875
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 14: as I've seen you period, and since i've known you.

876
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 14: What are you going through right now in terms of

877
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 14: the frustration after this lush?

878
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 15: Well, I don't want to take any anything from Michigan, say,

879
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 15: because Tom is one of the great coaches in college basketball.

880
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 15: And those guys played tough and together and hard and

881
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 15: played well. So you know, mostly just credit those guys

882
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 15: and and and We're we're facing a monumental challenge right now,

883
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 15: and I'm excited to see if we can figure it out.

884
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 14: You hinted at something like this a week or so

885
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 14: ago before the Louisville game, or after the Louisville game.

886
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 14: Did you sense that this has been kind of brewing

887
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 14: throughout the preseason?

888
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 15: No, I'm I'm I'm disappointed with how disconnected we've been.

889
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 15: I thought I had a better pulse. I thought I

890
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 15: thought I was doing a better job coaching that I'm

891
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 15: doing right now. So it's been it's been eye opening

892
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 15: for me a little bit. So, you know, I'm a

893
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 15: little bit surprised.

894
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 14: And by coaching, you're not talking about access and knows

895
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 14: as much as you're talking about getting these guys to

896
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 14: play for the Kentucky name.

897
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: Correct.

898
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 15: No, I think it's everything. I think it's it's it's

899
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 15: it's development and culture. It's the right care, it's the

900
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 15: right focus, it's the right schemes, it's the right excess

901
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 15: and o's it's a portant job. A nice thing is

902
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 15: is I can fix it, like we can fix it.

903
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 15: But it's a really disappointing result.

904
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Mark? What do you think about that?

905
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: The dude needs to talk, like he said, a loss

906
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: of words, but we need to hear something out of him.

907
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that looked really sad. I mean, you know,

908
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Jeff Goodman knows Mark really well. I mean, Jeff Cooman

909
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: probably knows Mark better than any other media member, and

910
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: when he says to him, this is the saddest you've

911
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: ever looked, like, I'll take that at face value. I

912
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: think Jeff would know that. And you know, Mark just

913
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: looks like he's completely at a loss for words. I

914
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: mean he looks I don't know, man, I mean he

915
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: looks like a dude who I don't know.

916
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: But your players are going to see that, like, yeah,

917
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: this is the leader, no man.

918
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: Like I just I this is like, I'm oddly more

919
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: pessimistic after watching all of these and listening to all

920
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: these comments after the game than I was, uh than

921
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: I was watching it. Sorright, who's next?

922
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: Well, let's do the Johnny Rocker personal injury attorney, moneymaker

923
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 2: of the game. Injured get small town compassion with big

924
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: city results.

925
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: Sorry, but do you read I spoke over it?

926
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: He gets small town compassion with big city results. When

927
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: you call the Rocker at two seven oh three two

928
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: one four four two nine, and yeah, we're kind of

929
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 2: looking around if the money maker of the game tonight,

930
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 2: but we're gonna go with Malachai Moreno, he had nine points.

931
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: He was seven of eight from the free throw line.

932
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: He had four rebounds, two of them being offensive rebounds,

933
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: when the team had six total. He had two, three assists,

934
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: one block, and twenty minutes, he was only minus one

935
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: in the plus minus. He is our money maker of

936
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 2: the game. Uh, and he should start.

937
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to start. He needs next game. I

938
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: think I think that that needs to happen. I don't

939
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: like this video online right now. Have you seen this

940
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: video of otego Away kind of rolling his eyes?

941
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 12: Yeah?

942
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: I don't like that either.

943
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: Are we dissecting? Are we dissecting every well?

944
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: Probably probably, We're probably over dissecting things. I think that's

945
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: but you know that's what happens. That's that's you're a

946
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: Kentucky right, Yeah, uh so, But yeah, I don't like

947
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: that video either. So for people who don't know, Mark,

948
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: Pope's explaining that he hasn't coached well and that he

949
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: needs to. Oh, Mario just tweeted this out and then

950
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: he needs to uh uh, there was still time to

951
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: fix it in otego Away looks to be like rolling

952
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: his eyes as he says it. All right, who's next, Todd? Todd?

953
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: Go ahead?

954
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 16: Todd, Hey, Matt, I agree with everything you said tonight.

955
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 16: It's definitely been a very confusing week with the comments

956
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 16: post Louisville, the way we played and then and then

957
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 16: tonight as well a couple of things.

958
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 8: Last year.

959
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 16: These problems are now the problems of this year. We

960
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 16: can't stay and last year it was, well, wait, can

961
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 16: we get some better athletes?

962
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: But you're breaking up. I'm sorry, sir. I want to hear.

963
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: I want to hear what you say, but it's I

964
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: appreciate the call you breaking up. I can't hear you. Uh.

965
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: I think you were suggesting though that last year we

966
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: said we can't defend the pick of roll because we

967
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: don't have the athletes, and now we have them, and

968
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: you're you're you're exactly right. I mean, then not defending

969
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: the pick and roll well, but they're not only not

970
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: defending anything well, And yeah, I mean I don't. It's

971
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: hard for me to believe Mark Pope can't coach defense.

972
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: It's like the caller said earlier, he played on one,

973
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: he played on a great defensive team. He's smart, he

974
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: knows basketball, he can coach defense. Last year the excuse

975
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: was though he didn't have the athletes, but he does

976
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: this year. But like what I said earlier, it feels

977
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: like we traded shooting for defense and toughness and ended

978
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: up with none of them. And that's a bad trade.

979
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: That's like a trade the Reds would make. Who's next?

980
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: Although I like key Bride, go ahead, Victor, Victor, go ahead, Victor,

981
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,959
Speaker 1: first time caller? Who? All right?

982
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 17: So I'm having a problem being optimistic. Freshman year COVID,

983
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 17: then Saint Peter's in the second round, then open. Those

984
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 17: were my four years at college.

985
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: Tough four years. It was tough.

986
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 17: But now last year sweet sixteen, I mean, yeah, that's good.

987
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 17: But I mean we're in talking. We have to remember

988
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 17: who we are, and I'm kind of like worried thinking

989
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 17: that this honeymoon is over. And I would like my

990
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 17: question for you. I'm not trying to sound rude or anything,

991
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 17: but what is if you were Mark Post financial advisor,

992
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 17: what would you do with twenty two million dollars?

993
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: Oh you mean for the roster? Sure, well, you know,

994
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: at the twenty two million dollars. I appreciate we're going

995
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: to hear that all year. That's just the nature of

996
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: if you if you spend that kind of money. I

997
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: don't really think that's the issue because I don't think

998
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: this is a talent issue if you have low. I mean,

999
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: if it was a talent issue, low and quaints are coming,

1000
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: so I hope they're coming. My issue is effort. This

1001
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: is not tonight has nothing to do with talent. We

1002
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: may have lost a Louisville because they have more talent

1003
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 1: and we're better, but like, this is an effort issue.

1004
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: Today we just got out coached out everything. There's nothing

1005
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: you do to win a basketball game that we did

1006
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: better than them tonight. We did not coach better, we

1007
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: did not shoot better, we did not play better defense,

1008
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: we were not more motivated. Every single thing you can

1009
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: do to win a game. We were worse than they

1010
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 1: were tonight. So you know, I'm we lost to Louisville.

1011
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: I think it was reasonable to say, you know, if

1012
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: this had happened or this had happened, that's not tonight.

1013
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: Tonight's inn all systems failure. This is the worst performance

1014
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: of the Mark Pope era, and this is one of

1015
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: the worst regular season November performances in a long time. Now,

1016
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: it's not the worst. We lost at home to UNC Wilmington.

1017
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: I mean, we've done some we've done some bad things.

1018
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: We lost Evansville, but this one's pretty bad. Who's next, Johnny, Johnny,

1019
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: go ahead, Johnny.

1020
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 10: Hey, Matt, feeling pretty defeated tonight. That was an embarrassing performance.

1021
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 10: What do you guys think that we need to shrink

1022
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 10: the rotation?

1023
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: Yes, quickly, Yes, I think you need. For me, I'm

1024
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: changing the starting lineup. I'm printing Malachi in instead of Garrison,

1025
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna play three guys off the bench. I'm

1026
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: gonna probably play uh you know, I mean, it's hard

1027
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: for me to see Garrison minutes. But I so let's

1028
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: say Yellovich, either Noah or Williams and you know Jasper.

1029
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: That's probably who I'm going with right now. But even

1030
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: if you play ten, I think you have to like

1031
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: to me right now, this team should be a When

1032
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: Jalaen Low comes back, this is probably a seven or

1033
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: eight man rotation. I kind of don't care who they are.

1034
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: But if you try to play ten and nobody's playing well,

1035
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: I just don't think you let anybody get into a rhythm.

1036
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

1037
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 10: I don't think Yellvinch is ready, and I don't know

1038
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 10: if BG and Trent will ever be ready. Start Marino

1039
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 10: and have Cam and Jasper as your main two reserves

1040
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 10: even run some small ball lineups with Mow and Cam together.

1041
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 10: The offense opens up when the foregn shoot.

1042
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: I do think that's a huge issue. I appreciate the call.

1043
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: I think Diabate at the four is an offensive problem.

1044
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: Those threes he took tonight were some of the saddest

1045
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: shots Billy I've ever seen.

1046
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: That first half was rough for him.

1047
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he is Stanley from the Office for he

1048
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: is he is. I mean, it's it's bad his threes, uh,

1049
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: But I like him on defense and I like some

1050
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: of the other stuff he gives. But that, well, that's

1051
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: I got mocked for saying him at the five and

1052
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: Malachi at the four. But wouldn't you rather have Malachi

1053
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: shooting that or any one that's not him? Money? He

1054
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: is the worst shooter on the team, and he and

1055
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: he had He had four threes tonight and I don't

1056
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: think one of them was close, and they were wide open,

1057
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: wide open. They're giving him what we used to give it, trancy,

1058
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: the Kyle Saddler treatment. Shoot. I see Kyle sometimes he

1059
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: hates that I use him as that analogy, but it's

1060
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: the truth. Well, we would just say shoot, that's what

1061
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: they're doing with him.

1062
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: Well, how about Michigan State hitting thirteen threes in the

1063
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: first three games. They hit eleven tonight.

1064
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that explains why. But remember they

1065
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: hit four of them right at the beginning. But we

1066
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: were still head you know they I mean they scored

1067
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: what they scored, eighty three. I mean that's a lot

1068
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,479
Speaker 1: for them, but we scored sixty nine. We're not gonna

1069
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: beat anybody, I don't. I don't think Popes won a

1070
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: game yet where we've scored under.

1071
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: Seventy sixty six.

1072
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: Sixty six, Yeah, I think I saw Popes like zero

1073
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: to ten or something when we scored under seventy. Uh,

1074
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: let's do four more and we'll call it to night.

1075
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: Who's next, Jerry, Jerry, go ahead, Jerry.

1076
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 9: The Abate kills me.

1077
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 18: Man, he just he shoots a ball from a hill man,

1078
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 18: he's taking.

1079
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 6: I been playing cars ball, lost it. We'd be shooting

1080
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 6: the ball from the top.

1081
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 8: There's no way, man.

1082
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 9: He can do he can hit shots from from the field, man,

1083
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 9: I mean, it just don't make sense to me. And

1084
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 9: another thing, Garson, he just don't give you no affort, man,

1085
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 9: He just stands the rails. There was two different times

1086
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 9: than night. I tell him my wife, they got to

1087
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 9: drive the ball to the hole.

1088
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 13: He just stands on.

1089
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 8: He put his hands up there.

1090
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 9: Man, he's six eleven.

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01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

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01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I love my cats, man, but.

1093
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 9: Jesus Christ, give it a little affort.

1094
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 18: Man, Thank you for taking my call.

1095
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: Appreciate. Yeah, I can't argue three more? Who's next? Landing? Landing?

1096
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: Did I overreacting to hang on? A second way? Video?

1097
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: Video looks bad? I can't.

1098
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: I can't really tell. I mean, it does look like

1099
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: an eye roll.

1100
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: I guess it's not obvious that that. I but it

1101
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: looks like an a roll. Who's next?

1102
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 3: Up?

1103
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: Landing? Go ahead? Landed?

1104
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 18: All right, Matt, how's it going?

1105
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: Man?

1106
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 13: It's been a long week.

1107
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 18: For Kentucky basketball, for sure. With the Louis of loss

1108
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 18: was rough, and then this just was icing on the cake. Thankfully,

1109
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 18: we are only three three weeks in and I feel

1110
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 18: like I still trust Pope up to this point. There's

1111
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 18: no reason to give up on them. I mean, you

1112
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 18: look at the louisvill game. We went down sixteen to

1113
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 18: two separate times and fought back both times, and the

1114
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 18: same thing tonight, down twenty two and got to ten. So,

1115
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 18: I mean we're there, but we're not fully there. At

1116
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 18: the same time, this team has plenty of talent and

1117
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 18: also a lot of talent that is missing on the

1118
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 18: floor at the same time. So and I think we

1119
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 18: have a plenty enough run to make it to then

1120
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 18: it and Maddy bangs in the end, it's still go cards.

1121
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I know it. I guess that was

1122
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: just at the end, he just said go cards. Yeah, right,

1123
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: I think that was. I think that was more of

1124
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: a burn in your head than you thought. It's it's

1125
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: hard to talk trash when when we're already down, there's

1126
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: nothing you can say to me that's gonna make me

1127
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: feel worse than we already do. All for me not

1128
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: good from that. Hope's face is not good. No, let's uh,

1129
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play one more video here. This was apparently

1130
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: Away was, uh, well, why are you so worried about O? Way?

1131
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: Apparently this was this is a way talking about his

1132
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: I guess his effort. Let me play this. It's not

1133
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: working for you personally as an individual.

1134
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 9: Right Tom.

1135
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean, we're all gonna.

1136
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 6: Figure it out with me.

1137
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of playing hard.

1138
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: Had an effort a hundred percent.

1139
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: That's something that I gotta go out there and do.

1140
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 2: And everything else was wanting to place after that.

1141
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: Well, okay, at least he knows that, but you kind

1142
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: of would hope you already would do that.

1143
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: Ye does that mean he's not doing that?

1144
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, all right, two more? Who's next, Poe?

1145
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: Actually that was a littlevel When he doesn't count, We'll

1146
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: do three, go ahead, Poe.

1147
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, uh, it's just mind boggling. I don't know

1148
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 12: where to start. I guess with Mark Pope. That was

1149
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 12: the craziest interview by a head coach for a big

1150
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 12: time school that I've ever heard. After the game, something's up.

1151
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 12: One thing reason I don't use the word I watched

1152
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 12: trying to use the word talent. They they they're athletic,

1153
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 12: but they don't pass the ball good. They don't handle

1154
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 12: the ball good. I know they they don't have Jalen

1155
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 12: Lowe right now, but I don't even know if he's

1156
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 12: the answer. But the good thing is we're early in

1157
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 12: the season. We got our big guys still supposed to

1158
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 12: come back acquaintings. I'm gonna try to keep it.

1159
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: We'll try to keep your head up. You know you.

1160
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, you sound as.

1161
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: Sad as Mark Pope, and I don't want you to

1162
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: do that.

1163
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 12: Yeah, well I am probably, And that's the thing is

1164
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 12: Kentucky basketball, and that's how that's that we are.

1165
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: But that's how we are.

1166
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 12: It's it's early, but we're not looking good and we're

1167
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 12: not sounding good and and it's just bad man. Yeah,

1168
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 12: but I'll talk to you in the more.

1169
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: Probably appreciate it, sir, Thank you, Thank you very much.

1170
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: If I'm nine to eighty seven, two more, who's next? Hopper? Hopper, Hopper, Hopper, Hopper?

1171
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead?

1172
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 19: Okay, So, so I think that Brandon Garrison, not only him,

1173
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 19: but I think the whole team needs to work on

1174
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 19: that rebound of skills because I'm burning Rison really watched

1175
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 19: the ball drop in front of him three times and

1176
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 19: never caught it one top.

1177
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: You're right, Hopper? Where are you from? Hopper? I hearn

1178
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: Kentucky and accent? Am I right?

1179
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1180
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

1181
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 19: Am I from eastern?

1182
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? You went from eastern Kentucky, Kentucky? You're from Wayne County?

1183
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: You from Mono, Yes, okay, that's eastern Kentucky. You're from

1184
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 1: southeast You're not tell your dad that I said, it's

1185
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: not southern Kentucky. Manaicello is Eastern Kentucky.

1186
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 19: He's listening to you. I had to go in the

1187
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 19: other room because he was that because I was trying

1188
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 19: to it into him.

1189
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: Well you tell him, he do, You tell him that

1190
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: you're from eastern Kentucky. And I've been to Wayne County

1191
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: High School. There's a lot of mountains there. So thank

1192
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: you for calling hopper appreciated. Okay, there you go, so

1193
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: you know that cheers me up. Hearing a kid from

1194
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: Wayne County called the postgame show. Let's do one more?

1195
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: Who's next? Chris, Chris, go ahead, Chris.

1196
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: Okayme ask you. I'm going to compare my four years

1197
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 3: at school to the other guys. Four years, freshman year,

1198
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 3: dream game, sophomore year, Georgetown Final four, junior year, lost

1199
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 3: to Saint John's in the sweet sixteen. Senior year LSU

1200
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 3: Elite eight.

1201
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: Not too bad. That's a great one.

1202
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 3: I spoke at I graduated with Kitty Walker.

1203
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: I spoke at UK last week and we were talking

1204
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: about what would have because because I argue that if

1205
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: you were in school ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven,

1206
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: ninety eight, that might have been the best four years

1207
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: to be at UK if you graduate ninety eight or

1208
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: ninety nine, something like that, probably ninety eight. If you

1209
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: graduated ninety eight or ninety nine, that'd be best. I graduated

1210
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: in two thousand. But we were also saying, well, what's

1211
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: the worst for football and basketball? And you could make

1212
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: an argument that the people graduating right now have kind

1213
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: of had that right or at least in the last

1214
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: couple of years, because they haven't really seen either team

1215
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: be really good, whereas like in ninety seven ninety eight,

1216
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: like both teams were great for us. So yeah, but.

1217
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 3: Here's the deal. Our coach is a Petino disciple. Yep,

1218
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: let's go full court, pressure, press the hell out of people,

1219
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 3: and start having some fun.

1220
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: Well, this team certainly likes being in transition. I appreciate

1221
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: the call, and if they're not going to play any defense,

1222
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: maybe that's what you have to do. When we were

1223
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: in transition, which was the first seven minutes, we looked

1224
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: pretty good and that was really the only time we

1225
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: looked good the whole time. Well, folks, I was a

1226
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: good postgame show in terms of calls and everybody getting in.

1227
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: It's a tough loss. It's very frustrating, but you know,

1228
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: hopefully it gets better. I can't remember a time that

1229
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: I felt more bewildered by the team than now. I mean,

1230
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: we've seen teams where we've had frustrations, We've seen teams

1231
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: be bad, We've seen teams have struggles. I can't I

1232
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: kind of understand a little bit about Pope's sort of

1233
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: not knowing what to say because I don't really know

1234
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: what to say. This is surprising to me. But he's

1235
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to turn it around. He ended his press

1236
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: conference by saying, we will not fail. Those are his words.

1237
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: I think he has earned the right to see if

1238
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: that to see if that happens. But I will say

1239
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: I hope he gets some sleep, and I hope I

1240
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: hope somebody who's his friend cheers him up a little bit,

1241
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: because he he does not look like a happy camper. Billy.

1242
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: We will thank you for staying up. We'll be back

1243
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. We'll do this again. We'll probably make it

1244
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: kind of a caller heavy morning show, which we don't

1245
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: do a lot, just because I want to hear from

1246
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: more folks, and hopefully we'll have some more clarification on

1247
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: some of the things we talked about shout out to

1248
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: the women's team who did win by forty tonight in

1249
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: a huge game for them as well. We'll see you later.

1250
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: This has been the local Toy Dealers KSR post game

1251
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: show