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Speaker 1: Make Eck a legend, though legend, and what.

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Speaker 3: Probably Charlemagne. Yeah, that's on every That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Probably Charlemagne has to be number one. I think even

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Speaker 2: Charlemagne can do it all. He's author, He writes books

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Speaker 2: on very positive topics. You know, he's got that Black

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Speaker 2: Charlamage is Charlad's all around, he's hard man facts, and

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Speaker 3: That's that's when you board do that, like if you

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Speaker 2: But hey, listen, like I we're here talking about him,

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not saying he's not relevant, right, relevant.

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Speaker 3: Not taking that from him, I'm saying that it's not

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Speaker 3: But that's not a contribute to academics. That's a contribute

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Speaker 3: the primise, he just got the beg from Spotify. You

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing I think Academics also, I gotta

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Speaker 3: So what we're doing with Minds is we about to

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Speaker 3: like this conversation right here. The mess is here. This

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Speaker 3: this is a golden nugget. This is nugget on the Internet.

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Speaker 3: As long as you dropping nuggets on the internet, you know,

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Speaker 3: Act didn't validate you. Bro, your content is dope. This

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Speaker 3: At some point, I'm dropping nuggets, be like Joe Budden

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Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying about. What business have these

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Speaker 3: of the space one percent. It's the business I'm looking

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Speaker 1: It's the business.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing, man. I'll be honest, like,

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Speaker 2: deals that people get other than I looked into Joe's

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Speaker 2: That was crazy?

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Speaker 3: Are you glad it's on the list. It makes me

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Speaker 2: It was crazy. But this is the thing, bro, if

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Speaker 2: You know, I do have an obsession for hip hop,

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Speaker 2: I love writing, I love researching, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: I know I'm an outsider to the culture, and I

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Speaker 2: And you know, I hope that people can see that,

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Speaker 3: Did you do you write everything down? Like is you

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Speaker 2: You know, I'll read all the rap lyrics, I'll watch

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Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, right now with this young

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Speaker 2: then once I feel like I've learned everything, I then

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Speaker 2: Really a case of, like, you know, just me lining

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Speaker 2: we've got a lyric where Young Boys saying I've got

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Speaker 2: you know, let his ops or whatever know that he's

433
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 2: he's still here, he's still standing. You know, he's really

434
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 2: trying to let people know that he's not affected by

435
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:43,880
Speaker 2: the drama going on. And it's it's stuff like this,

436
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 2: this might be something useful. Something I really try and

437
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 2: do is I try and write stories in a way

438
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 2: that somebody that didn't know much about hip hop, or

439
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 2: even somebody that just somebody that's a casual listener but

440
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 2: they don't know Young like they've heard two Young Boy songs.

441
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 2: I try and write things in a way so that

442
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 2: somebody that doesn't know anything about him can still understand it.

443
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 2: I try not to have too much like context of

444
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 2: like you have to have heard all of Young boys

445
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: albums to get one talking about he mentions this person,

446
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 2: like I try and explain, like if young boy mentions

447
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 2: one of his friends is always there for him. Or

448
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: for example, with the Young Boy's story, you know, in

449
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 2: a lot of songs, he mentions rip Lil Dave. A

450
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 2: lot of people might know what that means. Or he

451
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 2: says I put this on Dave, I swear on Dave,

452
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: and it might be it's like, okay, let me explain

453
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 2: to people. You know, young boy releases this album and

454
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 2: he mentions his friend littl Dave numerous times, and then

455
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 2: I'll say Lil Dave was a friend of his when

456
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 2: he was you know, he was a teenager. Unfortunately ended

457
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 2: up losing their life and this was, you know, the

458
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 2: first person he lost, and this ended up affecting him

459
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 2: and this went on to affect his music and the

460
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 2: way he saw the world. So it's really trying to

461
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 2: explain that to somebody. If you're a dope Young Boys fan.

462
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 3: Need to know that's dope right to even be able

463
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 3: to there's something there. There's something special about being able

464
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 3: to do that, dude. I want you to know that, right,

465
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 3: because a lot of people in his industry, again, they

466
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 3: know Yo, here's another thing. The people ahead that you

467
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 3: will find you way before they tell anybody about you.

468
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 3: So somebody like Academics inviting you to his podcast in

469
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, he's been known about you since twenty

470
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 3: seventeen type thing. Right, So I want you to know

471
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: or just I want you to know that these people

472
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: know you. These people know you're dope. They will never

473
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 3: say it. I don't know why this industry is that way.

474
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm probably the only one that just gonna be like, Yo,

475
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 3: it's something there, bro, hang in on that, like that

476
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 3: little thing is something like I'm telling you, it's business

477
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: right there, something you know what I mean, a lot

478
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: of people not going for whatever reason. Bro. I just

479
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 3: wanted to say that to you, but not even necessarily

480
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: about young boy, right. I'm just more so wondering when

481
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 3: you craft this shit up. It's just interesting to see

482
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 3: how you do it. You know what I'm saying. Is

483
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 3: the teleprompter affecting it?

484
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: Is it good? Is it working well? Do you like

485
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: that better?

486
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: Or quite interesting? Man? No one's ever asked me this,

487
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think the teleprompter is tricky because previously

488
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: what I would do is I would literally you can't

489
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 2: see it. But where I'm sat right now, I've got

490
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: the camera there I'm looking at, and i got the

491
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: screen where you're at. What I used to do is

492
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: I would have my script on the screen where you are,

493
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: and I would just read, you know, I'd literally would

494
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 2: look at the sentence. I would just try and remember it,

495
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 2: and I would turn to the camera and I would

496
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: say it, and I would just do that. It would

497
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: take me hours and hours. But back then I was

498
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: doing shorter videos. But I think the reason why that's

499
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 2: always been good is because you can tell that I'm

500
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: not just reading a script. You might have seen there's

501
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: a lot of channels out there where you've got dudes

502
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: that just read to the teleprompter and it's words that

503
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: they didn't write. It's random shit, And you can actually

504
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: tell that when they're reading it, they're sort of saying

505
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: like the sentences don't really work because they don't know

506
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: what's coming. They're same and then NBA young boy would

507
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 2: get in trouble because he got into a situation. But

508
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: you can tell they don't know what's coming, Whereas I've

509
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: written every word, so I know what's coming. So even

510
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: though I'm reading it off a teleprompter. I know my

511
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: intention and I know the tone. Like I know that

512
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 2: if I'm talking about somebody that just lost their life,

513
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: you know, I need to speak with a little bit

514
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: more of a sensitive tone. I need to say, yeah,

515
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 2: you know, at two fifteen am, you know, somebody got

516
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 2: out of a dark vehicle and open fire. You need

517
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: to say that a bit more seriously than if you're saying,

518
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: you know, young boy released his new album and it

519
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 2: was lit. It was full of bangers, and he went

520
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: number one, you know, and somebody that didn't write the

521
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: content and didn't have a personal connection to it might

522
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: not be able to do that. Because I do care

523
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: about this shit. I don't want people to think I'm

524
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 2: making light of somebody that got killed or whatever. You know,

525
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 2: I have a personal connection with these stories. I'm passionate

526
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: about them, like I write these scripts. Like for me,

527
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: it's you know, a lot of people maybe don't give

528
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: me credit for it, but like you'll notice, especially in

529
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: like my video about FBG Dark or my video about

530
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: you know, the Jacksonville kind of who I Smoke Beef,

531
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: I always try and end videos with like some positive perspective,

532
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: which is my opinion, Like I'll say things the Jacksonville video,

533
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: for example, I kind of end by saying, look, we

534
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: really need this violence to stop. We got trying, you know,

535
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: we got try and see things better and try and

536
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: see a positive outcome of this situation, because we've just

537
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: got people dying on both sides and dissing each other,

538
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: and it's just getting out of control. And I think

539
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: it's like I think those touches where I just try

540
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: and give a bit of extra perspective, or even in

541
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: the King Von video, you know, I know a lot

542
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: of people were upset that you're painting him as the

543
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: serial killer. But if you watch the video carefully, you

544
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: know there's a there's a segment at near the start

545
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: of the video where I say, look, before we get

546
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: any further, I just want to say King Von is

547
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: a product of his environment. He grew up in a

548
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: tough situation where it was kill or be killed. He

549
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: had to defend herself and his people from these dangers,

550
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, maybe some people don't care

551
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: for that.

552
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: Whatever.

553
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: It's like it's like the apology after the murder. You know,

554
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: it's like, damn, you just shot my nephew and say

555
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 3: it sorary. You know they're probably ain't the same kind

556
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: of We appreciate that, but that don't outweigh that. You

557
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: know this, that's the thing that's happening with that. But

558
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: I wanted you to answer this. If if NBA young

559
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: Boy join this stream right now, because I know Alex. Now,

560
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 3: if inn being young would join this stream right now

561
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 3: and say, hey, white boy, stay out of my business,

562
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: what do you say to that.

563
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: I'd probably say, like, keep your business off the Billboard charts.

564
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: Bro.

565
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: You know that he wants me to stay out of

566
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: his business. But he just dropped two albums this month,

567
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I got third, I got

568
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: like fifty tracks to listen through. You know, I think

569
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: I love Young Boy. You know, I respect him, I

570
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 2: respect all of these artists. But I think I think

571
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: if you're look, if you're a gangster and you're in

572
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: the streets and you're really doing this stuff and you're

573
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: keeping it real, you would not be telling people the

574
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: things you did in the streets. I think when you

575
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: become a rapper and you put yourself in the public sphere,

576
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: you become a public figure. You're making music about your life,

577
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: you're telling you're trying to share your story. You rappers

578
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: want people to talk about them, So I think it's

579
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: it's I think it's wrong for people to say, like

580
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: Young Boy is going to release an album, it's gonna

581
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: go number one on Billboard, it's gonna sell a hundred

582
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: thousand copies, but I'm not allowed to talk about it

583
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: or look into it. You know. I feel like that's

584
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: just it's just an unrealistic expectation. You know, if you

585
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: didn't want people looking into your life, you shouldn't have

586
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: put it on a Billboard charting song. But that said,

587
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: I actually think although a lot of people have come

588
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: at me, for example, for King Von, a lot of

589
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: people have defended me and said when King Von was alive,

590
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: he wanted everyone to think he was the big killer.

591
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: King Von was literally resharing videos of like things on

592
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: World Star, of shootouts that he had letter was allegedly

593
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: involved in, like Von, not to go too far back

594
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: to Vaughn, but like, you know, Young Boy, for example,

595
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: he's released an album called The Richest Op and it's

596
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: full of all this stuff where he's kind of dissing

597
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: his ops, going at his enemies. You know, it's he

598
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: wants people to think of him as a tough guy,

599
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: as a gangster. So I don't think he would really

600
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: be upset, And I honestly.

601
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm not sure because it's it's the criminal element you

602
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: putting together to make it cause again investigation.

603
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: Have you ever been on the investigation.

604
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that these days will could be used

605
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: in those kind of scenarios, Like definitely, Man, they don't

606
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: have an understanding of the culture. A lot of times

607
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: they misrepresent words and they got to ask people inside

608
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: the culture. That's why the CI is so important to

609
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: the to the criminal element, to the police, is because

610
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: without the CI, they don't even know what we communicate,

611
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: and somebody might kind of say, hey, bring me to

612
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: bring me to my ice man, and then pull up

613
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: with some of that.

614
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: Boy.

615
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, I do get what you're saying.

616
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: I understand where you're coming from. It's like, for example,

617
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: in the young boy situation, you know, it's I don't

618
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 2: think it's fair to suggest like I'm responsible for him

619
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: being investigated. For example, he just released the music video,

620
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: right and in the music video he's got a lyric

621
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: where he says, we're gonna lay his head on a

622
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: pillow when we pull up on him, and in the

623
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: music video, he's laying on the floor putting his head

624
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: on a pillow and all these guys are over him

625
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: going like this. And this is a reference to the

626
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 2: murder of g Money, where a pillow was found at

627
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: the crime scene and the you know, everyone says, ah,

628
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: they threw a pillow on him after they shot him.

629
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: Now that's not true. I know that's not true. It

630
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: was a pillow that was left by the medical services

631
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 2: that were there trying to save him after he got

632
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: found shot. But young boys on a song talking about

633
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: we're gonna lay his head on a pillow when we

634
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: catch him, and he's in the music video on the

635
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: ground with the pillow, dancing laughing. It would be wrong

636
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 2: to say that he gets investigated because of me pointing

637
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: that out when everybody in Baton Rouge knows that this

638
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 2: guy got found dead with a pillow next to him,

639
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: and everybody can see young boy dancing around on the

640
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: floor with his pillow. So I do respect what you're saying,

641
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: but I think it's almost like the incrimination has already occurred, but.

642
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: We're changing words, and so I do want to let

643
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: the youngsters know, young boy, and everybody is watching that

644
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: that's irresponsible to take their kind of stance on music, right,

645
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: If that does correlate, if that is a situation, I

646
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: want us to move away from that. I can't tell

647
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: a nigga what to do. But here's the thing. When

648
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: we deal with an artist, when we deal with someone

649
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: like him, I'm not saying you responsible. That's a word

650
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: you used. I said you're adding to the investigation. So

651
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: when you're under investigation, it's exactly what it is, an investigation.

652
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: Right.

653
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: A lot of the investigation nowadays operates literally all off

654
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: social media, and they verify or they look at YouTube

655
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: as social media, right, so they literally go on YouTube

656
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: type shit in and somebody like you, with the job

657
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: that you do with this kind of shit, man, there's

658
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: probably three or four police sitting down watching this shit.

659
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: Your your documentary. I'm telling you this for sure.

660
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: I just I don't believe it. I'm telling you thismentary. No.

661
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: But here's here's what I'm trying to say my documentary.

662
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: Whether they use it or not, I think you're confusing

663
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying with them actually using your content in court.

664
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying just this the same way you look at

665
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: academics without using his content and just be like, oh,

666
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: maybe that is a point, Maybe that kind of it's

667
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: the same way the Fears or the State would look

668
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: at some of those documentaries.

669
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I just feel like you're giving me too

670
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: much credit and you're not giving the state enough. For

671
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: bear in mind, it's like, I've got a video, for example,

672
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: King Von He's on his IG live and he's talking

673
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: about I swear I've got more than five bodies, for example.

674
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: Whether I understand that a lot of people believe that

675
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: it's cap and he's maintaining a rapper image, fine, you

676
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: know that's not my perspective, but fair enough. But I

677
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: think the idea that the cops are seeing that in

678
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: my video two years after it happened, rather than I

679
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: think I'm one hundred percent sure that there is probably

680
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: a Baton Rouge detective whose job it is to just

681
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: watch all of young boys Instagram stories and music videos.

682
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: So it's already happened.

683
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: I've been on investigation, I got state charges, I got

684
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: friends in the Fears, I've dealt with the Fears. I've

685
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: spit hundreds of thousands of dollars on federal lawyers. I've

686
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: been set up and snitched on myself, not my cousin,

687
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: not my friend. They brought to people to bust me.

688
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: So I'm telling you that they don't have an understanding

689
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: like you. You're giving them too much credit. They're a

690
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: bunch of lazy fucks.

691
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Bro.

692
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, you ain't even from the you ain't

693
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: even from the States.

694
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you now, on a certain level it

695
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: gets serious.

696
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: But Bro, they don't have an understanding in the way

697
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: that you think they have an understanding.

698
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you they don't.

699
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: That's why half of what happens in court is cooperation

700
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: because they don't know nothing. They don't really know what

701
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: the fuck that means or how.

702
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: Did you do that.

703
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: Sometimes they'll give a dude been sixty murders. They'll let

704
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: him go, just tell us how to hear you did that.

705
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: We don't have no understanding on it.

706
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: So here's why, here's why I disagree. Just with one

707
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: good example. I think I did a video on the

708
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: ysl wyfn me right, wife.

709
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: And you before you go, I'm gonna let you get

710
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: that off, but I want to set this premise before

711
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: you go. The reason why that is different is because

712
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: Atlanta is culture, so that even the DA's is culture.

713
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: To judge everybody in Atlanta because it has bled culture.

714
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: But that's that's an anomaly that doesn't happen everywhere.

715
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: But continue, Okay, I if that's your opinion. But I

716
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: think just more specifically, I released my video about the

717
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: wifn YSLB six months before Young Thug got indicted, right,

718
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: and then when he got indicted, a lot of people saying, oh,

719
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: it's because of Trap law Ross. He did a video.

720
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 2: And bear in mind, I released my video after Luci

721
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: got indicted. So Luci gets indicted, I make a video

722
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: and I literally say in my video, it seems like

723
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: Young Thug has moved away from the streets. He's just

724
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: a musician, he's not involved in that. Unfortunately, Luci got

725
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: caught up and he's caught Rico. Six months after I

726
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: released my video, young Thug catches his case and everybody

727
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: starts saying it's trap lau Ross. His video. It broke

728
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: it down so well that he's the one responsible. But

729
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: here's the thing. Then the indictment drops and what's in

730
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: the indictment All they've got all of his They got

731
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: his phones like details from his stone. They got pictures,

732
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 2: communications messages between them saying young thug book in this

733
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: rental car. They've got him instagramming people saying you know,

734
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: we soldiers, we have to get the job done or

735
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 2: whatever it was. And it's like when you actually then

736
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: see it's like they got way more resource.

737
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: I want to point out in Atlanta, she is culture.

738
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: She understands the terms, the language. She she has dealt

739
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: with rapt Again, Atlanta is a different space. And I

740
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: think because you haven't dealt with the criminal system, there's

741
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: no way you don't have a reference. But I'm telling you,

742
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: you go into this criminal system and they don't know

743
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: the culture like that. That's why cooperation is prevalent in Atlanta.

744
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: Though everybody is a part of black culture. Even I'll

745
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: give you an example. Just the other day in the

746
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: wide Sale case, instead of going to jail, the judge

747
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: told the dude, hey, you go to go you gotta

748
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: go buy lunch.

749
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: Guess where he went, Magic City. He's the lawyer.

750
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: You went, got wings and shit from Magic every is

751
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: cultured in Atlanta. It's a different So I wouldn't contribute

752
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: it as much to an Atlanta situation because I know

753
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: that Diata understand rap music.

754
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: When when Thug.

755
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: Is on the song and saying I keep a dress

756
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: under the stick and all of that, I know she

757
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: knows how to kind of put some of this together

758
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: more so than some of these white, old, elderly people

759
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 3: who won't leave their job. But their investigator for this

760
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: state place, I'm telling you they don't know. But with Atlanta,

761
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: even though she's misrepresented lyrics, I need to be on

762
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: record saying that, but I think that she has more

763
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: of an understanding the DA office in Atlanta has more

764
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: of an understanding of hip hop culture.

765
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: Even Thug. They know that situation.

766
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 3: I believe them to have cousins and family that could

767
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: be intertwined somewhere down the line.

768
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: That know some of those guys, But.

769
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how that same thing cont be applied

770
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: to like Baton Rouge. You know, your young boy's been

771
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: investigated since late twenty sixteen, right, so that's like seven

772
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: years that they've had to get their head around the

773
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: lingo and all this stuff. You can't just say it's

774
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: all trying.

775
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. That's all I'm saying. You add

776
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 3: to the understanding again. I gave the example the same

777
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: way you look at academics and you don't take him

778
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: from his word everything.

779
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: He says you. It's two our thing.

780
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 3: I know this guy don't know everything, but oh, fuck

781
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 3: that little piece we didn't Hey you heard that little piece.

782
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: We didn't know about that. That's what I'm saying, right.

783
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: It ain't that, Oh we're taking trap Lord Ross documentary

784
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 3: and we're drawing the indictment up off of that. That's

785
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: not happening. But I'm telling you and guaranteeing you that

786
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: there's some investigators sitting down watching that for perspective, not

787
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: necessarily to grab charges, but for perspective in the same

788
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: way that we do when we go do an interview

789
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: or try to do a doc or whatever.

790
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: That's what I would believe to that. What do you say.

791
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, man, I just I'm not sure I

792
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: believe it. I feel like it's a bit of a reach.

793
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: But at the same time, we have a difference in perspective,

794
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: you know. I just feel like, you know, for example,

795
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: the Feds, right, you know, the five people that were

796
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: caught for FBG Duck's murder, they're currently awaiting trial. I

797
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: just don't believe that the investigators that were looking into

798
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 2: them didn't have the knowledge or the context to decipher

799
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: what was going on. You know, they got they've got what.

800
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: Do you say, Chicago? They don't know, Bro, they don't

801
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 3: have the content. I'm telling you.

802
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't know though, because I mean, there's that King

803
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: Von's song. Was it that there's the King Von song?

804
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: What it's like?

805
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: And he says at the end of the song, he says,

806
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: he basically says the conversation that he had with the investigators,

807
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: and they said, oh, you know, d Rose, that's my work.

808
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 2: You know, Rondo number nine, that's my work. So it's

809
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: like Von's talking about these guys, these these meds.

810
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: They that's what I'm trying to tear.

811
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: You've never been arrested, probably I'm been onder investigation.

812
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: They say these.

813
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: Things, Hey man, we know we know about you always

814
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: having a gun on you know, said gas. We know

815
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: that you know you. We know you came back from Tech.

816
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: They might have saw me come back from Texas. We

817
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: know you came back from Texas last week. We know

818
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: we know you was out there. You know, we know

819
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: what you was doing out there.

820
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: You know. They say these things. I'm telling you this

821
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: for sure.

822
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: They but they're not getting not from YouTube videos. I

823
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: just thought, I'm with when.

824
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: You even speaking of for next two times.

825
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: Guess what when he went to court, they brought in

826
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 3: thirty two articles. Articles are evidence from the government side

827
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: that they placed forward to try to let the judge

828
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: know why you do deserve more time or why you

829
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: deserve the maximum or whatever it is. I think he

830
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: said twenty nine thirty of those was all social media

831
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 3: YouTube things when he would go off on money bag

832
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: yo bitch, had Nick had a gun in the club,

833
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: flash to gun. They are getting everything from YouTube and

834
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 3: social media.

835
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm guaranteeing you this.

836
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: But that's that's his own social media.

837
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: Why not his own social media? I was it's about

838
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: it discurve this. It was not his own social media.

839
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: It was videos of him at the club, maybe with

840
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: an ar on stage, like talk to the side or

841
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: with a gun. Well, he might have been relive, but

842
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: that video was on YouTube. He had been deleted that

843
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: so that video might have been on YouTube somewhere. And

844
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: so I'm saying this is assistance. This is assistance, is

845
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, whether it's on him or not. You

846
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: gotta acknowledge that the role that you play in it,

847
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: or you saying are you saying you don't think you

848
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: played zero role? With the great journalism that you do

849
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: wrapped around these things, you're telling me you play zero

850
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: role in an investigation if there is.

851
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: One going on.

852
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: You don't believe no one to have ever looked at

853
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: one of your documentaries.

854
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: For perspective in law enforcement.

855
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: I do not believe my videos have played any role,

856
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: zero role in an active investigation. I can imagine an

857
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: investigators probably watched my video for fun, But I don't

858
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: think I played any role in an investigation if there

859
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: was some evidence, if you could show me an indictment

860
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: where one of my.

861
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: Won't be referenced.

862
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 3: From this perspectives, So when I'm telling you, what I'm

863
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: telling you do is you think you get a million

864
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 3: views and there's not a golden nugget in it?

865
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: Oh, you think there's a million dumb people? No, no, no, no,

866
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: there's golden nuggets. There's nuggets in this.

867
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: Those are nuggets that the cops already have.

868
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: I just do.

869
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: It seems unbelievable to me that they would they would

870
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: not look at any of the I just don't exactly

871
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: bear of mind, bear in mind no, but this is

872
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's like bear of mind. Like for example,

873
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: you know I got I might get a clip of

874
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: young boy toting the gun. Right, that is the same

875
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: clip that he got arrested for. I don't know if

876
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 2: you you know, if I do, you know the story.

877
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: But like in twenty twenty, twenty twenty, young boys doing

878
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: a music video. He's on probation, he shouldn't be around guns.

879
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: He's on social media with all of his voice toting

880
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: an ak and then the Feds pull up up and

881
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: they arrest him, the arrest everyone. And this is the

882
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: case that young boys, he's a waiting trial for this

883
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: weapons charge because he was on social media with his gun. Now,

884
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: he's it's not my fault if I put that in

885
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: a video that he was doing that. He should not

886
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: have been totally a gun in his neighborhood.

887
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.

888
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: You're right, right, responsibility right, He should never never be

889
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: doing that. I remember one time academics had posted Meek

890
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: Mial and he was on probation, and he was in

891
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: his neighborhood feeling one of the most dangerous places in

892
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: the world, so they had fire.

893
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: Arms on them.

894
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: Academics reposted meet people and then hit him up. Hey bro,

895
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: he on probation, bru take it down. They didn't get

896
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: him locked up, academics, what's wrong? I don't know what's

897
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 3: going on.

898
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't hear.

899
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: He just loves because he himself active of the internet babies. Right.

900
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: Well, we're trying to tell y'all this preserve our culture.

901
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: But y'all don't look at it like that because y'all

902
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: ain't a part of it for real. So what happens

903
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: is when we say, yo, don't send me to jail

904
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: for something, yo. Like with John Moran, that shit going

905
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: crazy right now. He shouldn't have done that. But in

906
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: our culture sometimes your people will bury some shit if

907
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 3: they can.

908
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: For us, it's like, yo, you shouldn't have done it.

909
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: Everybody posted, but we always ignore the incentive that everybody

910
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 3: is monetizing people's downfalls. People are monetizing people's mistakes. That's

911
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: what's happening. So if it wasn't an incentive, you could

912
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 3: tell a person, hey man, they might send me to jail, bro,

913
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: and they'll take it down.

914
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: But because they want, especially academics that.

915
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: Thirst to be first, that thirst to be first, and

916
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: make him throw it up. But bro, I'm thinking, like,

917
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: fuck man, like I want us to find a medium

918
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: for that shit.

919
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: But again, I can't deal with self snitching. I don't

920
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: do it. I think it's dune.

921
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: Listen, Ja Moran, because I've been looking into this too.

922
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: He got away one time. He was lucky. He flashed

923
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: that gun in the street club. They nearly banned him.

924
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: They gave him like two game suspension. I don't know

925
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: what he's doing running around showing guns on Instagram live again.

926
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: That's on him, bro, he why is he doing that again?

927
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 3: Bro, he's gonna from you know, I can't talk about

928
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: that with you, man, that's my boy, And they gonna

929
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: say long damn man, it just happened.

930
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: You talking about it with the white boy up there.

931
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: That ain't cool. So I'm a whole on four minute

932
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: on the job topic. That's my guy. I wish him

933
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: the best. YA don't know what's happening. I do understand it.

934
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: Something's happening, and I hate it for him, right. I

935
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: think partially, I think he's been into that music a

936
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 3: whole lot. I think that music got him choke hold

937
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: on him. But that's what I'm trying to tell you.

938
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: They this is the this is the evidence. What I'm

939
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: telling you they do. They tell they tell I rap niggas,

940
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: They incentivize, and it's benefit on the side of exaggeration

941
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: of criminal behavior, and then what you deal with is

942
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: real crime rising. Young Boy said something in a song

943
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: that scared me, And it didn't scare me because I

944
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: think he gonna do something, but I understood.

945
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: I know young boys that listen to him. Guess what

946
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: he said.

947
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: He said that what you know about a dude beating

948
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: on your mama, you get old enough and then you

949
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: kill him. I said, I don't think that's a good

950
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: message to give those children, because there's people, there's people

951
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: gonna start plotting on that or feel like that's the

952
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 3: way to go in real life. Like I don't even

953
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: know if he knows, but I've dealt with young niggas

954
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 3: that look just like young Boy. Try to stand like him,

955
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 3: try to talk like him, get their hair like him.

956
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: If he swishes hair, they swish their hair. If he

957
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: weighing is they wear so they got he got a

958
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: certain choke hold on him. That when he said that

959
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: I said, oh, you know, I just don't know. Maybe

960
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: you know as a slippery one. That's a slippery place

961
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: right there.

962
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: Well that's a really good point. And actually, I think

963
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: something I really wanted to say to you at some

964
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: point in this conversation is that I think the you

965
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: know something needs to change because I think there's a

966
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: lot of successful rappers. Ja Cole is just one that

967
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: jumps to mind that can be successful without living up

968
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: to this gangster image. I know that that works for

969
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people. But at the same time, that's

970
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: not the only route. I know. People are incentivized by

971
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 2: acting like a tough guy, acting like they've got bodies

972
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: or they're a killer or whatever.

973
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: But I want you because it's not acting like anything.

974
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: It's exaggeration of the circumstances. Not that I'm not involved,

975
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 3: but I made they This is benefit on the side

976
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: of putting a little bit on that.

977
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: Now with j Cole, he's dope. That's the difference.

978
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: They don't incentive azzed niggas that ain't dope, but they'll

979
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: give you some money.

980
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: If you ain't dope, but you're talking it gangster killer shit,

981
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: you can still get in.

982
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: But that that's but that's why it's so it's it's

983
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: actually quite confusing because then you look at a guy

984
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 2: like Joe Moran and we don't have to talk too

985
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: much on him because I know there's a personal relationship there,

986
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: But it's like it's it's almost hard to understand where

987
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: it's like, this guy is an NBA player with one

988
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: of the biggest contracts going. He doesn't really need to

989
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: be flashing the gun. But I suppose, how.

990
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 3: Do we know he doesn't does major How do we

991
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: know that he don't need.

992
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: He doesn't need to flash the gun. Maybe he needs

993
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: the gun for protection, but he doesn't need to. And

994
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: he's clearly music. He's caught up in the music in

995
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: the moment and he wants to show it off. But

996
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: what I really wanted to say to you, going back

997
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: to the j Cole thing, because you said something really

998
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: interesting right back at the start of this when we

999
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: were talking about jay Z and the Massy projects, and

1000
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: you said that you've got young guys growing up in

1001
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: a difficult situation where damn near the only options they've

1002
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: got is rap or play ball or get into the streets.

1003
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: And I think it's so important for us going forward

1004
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 2: to also shine a light on the people like yourself

1005
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: and like Charlemagne or j Cole that say, you know

1006
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: what you haven't Actually, you've got more options. You can

1007
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: be a dope podcaster and make millions. You can be

1008
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: even if you don't like ACT, you could be like ACT.

1009
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: A lot of people that maybe don't want to be

1010
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: like ACT. I like ACT, but you know what I mean,

1011
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: and I think that going I think and this is

1012
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: something I want to do, and I would love to

1013
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: do more projects broadly on you know, I cover lots

1014
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: of different types of people. I also love covering success,

1015
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 2: but you know, just really showing people like young dudes

1016
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: coming out of fucked up environments that you know what,

1017
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: there's so many more options, there's so many more routes.

1018
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: You're a good podcaster not because you're up here acting

1019
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: like the toughest podcaster in the world that can't be

1020
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: fucked with. You're here because you've got interesting opinions. You know,

1021
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: you you argue your points well, you've got a really

1022
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: good perspective from the background that you've come from, and

1023
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: you're a shining example, like you're a role model, you

1024
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean, And I think it's just a

1025
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: really interesting space that we're in where it's like some

1026
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: people that they're kind of caught up in just the

1027
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: only role models they can see are the King Von's,

1028
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: the Chief Keiths or the NBA young boys. And there's actually, nowadays,

1029
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: in the modern era, there's so many more people to

1030
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: look up to. And I think, you know, maybe going forward,

1031
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: you know, I'd love to know if there's more ways here.

1032
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: Now.

1033
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: We definitely spread that mess.

1034
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, and we're gonna get some stuff together

1035
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: because again I can appreciate how you do these days,

1036
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: is what I think happens. Is I truly truly when

1037
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 3: I lay down at night, I truly truly in my heart, no,

1038
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm breaking the mold. I truly know this because before me,

1039
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: you have your academics, you have your Joe Buddens, you

1040
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: have all of these guys are different from me. Now,

1041
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: tex Stone is a version of it. But something happened.

1042
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: It got slippery for him, and then some took him alone.

1043
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 3: The way I thank him to be, I take him

1044
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: to be intelligent. I take him to have game a

1045
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: lot of game as well. But I truly believe because

1046
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: my head is on right right and I've literally dedicated

1047
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,959
Speaker 3: my life to this. I truly believe this to break

1048
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 3: the mold. And I say that because when I pull

1049
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: up in the trap, they will play my podcast. They

1050
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: will not play another podcast. Here's the kicker. When I

1051
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: pull up to an exec, they also play the podcast.

1052
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: And so here's where you see somebody like QCP, I

1053
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: always share my stuff. That's my brother. It ain't because

1054
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: the personal relationship. It's because the opinion. That's the perspective

1055
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: that's being laid down. It's like, yo, that makes sense.

1056
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: You see some of the biggest people in the game

1057
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: embrace it because of the perspective.

1058
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: And so I believe soon everybody have a mic and

1059
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: be talking.

1060
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna be about where you get your information from,

1061
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: because everybody's gonna have a YouTube channel, a camera. Everybody's

1062
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: gonna know how to edit the shit gonna damn to

1063
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: edit itself. There's a new program now that edit podcasts

1064
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: for you. AI just you ain't even gotta touch it.

1065
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be about you better be dope. And

1066
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: that's what dudes like academics gonna burn out and people

1067
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: like you are gonna thrive because you must have golden nuggets,

1068
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: and I just pissed gold like I talk golden nuggets.

1069
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 3: I like, perspective wise, I'm always gonna have something that's

1070
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 3: like what the fuck was that?

1071
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: You know? And so I'm lucky enough to be there.

1072
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 3: I just pray that perspective stays with me in the universe,

1073
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: stays in line. But outside of that, I want the

1074
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 3: youngsters to know you can and be a dope podcaster.

1075
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: But I know I'm the first one. They looking at

1076
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: it saying, nah, he really cool, like the girls like

1077
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 3: I'm the first podcaster. I mean, I'm sure dudes like Charlemagne,

1078
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 3: I don't look at him like a podcaster. Joe Joe

1079
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: probably get girls. There's a lot of niggas this, but bro,

1080
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: I'm popping like a rap nigga popping like I'm I'm

1081
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: talking about they loving real and and I love them,

1082
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: but I'm saying I want us to shad like so

1083
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 3: the kids do know, Hey, it's other avenues. J Cole

1084
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: got out because he was truly dope. What's unfortunate it

1085
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: is you don't gotta be dope if you talk criminal,

1086
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: you gotta be believable. So they don't necessarily care if

1087
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: you dope. Long as they believe you will get you

1088
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: out there, because we gonna put some criminal shit in

1089
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: front of these people because that's what they want, they

1090
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 3: gonna listen to. That's why you see young boy half

1091
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 3: seventy k seventy k people on the Instagram. Nobody really

1092
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 3: they gonna find where it be fed. What the hell

1093
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: is he going talking about that beef shit? We gonna

1094
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 3: find that. And so I think I'm the first one

1095
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: to be able to dribble in both of those like

1096
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: lanes where it's like, oh he cool land his information

1097
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: like we can learn and it's it's still us. And

1098
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: so I pray that people coming behind this, you know

1099
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: that we like the way that it's possible. You know,

1100
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: because what you're doing, bro, I'm telling you this, and

1101
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: don't wait for these suckers to validate you, because if

1102
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: you waiting on that, it ain't gonna ever happen. You

1103
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: may be the dopest one doing that. You need to

1104
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: be at a network with that. You see what I'm saying.

1105
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: You're the level you're doing it on. It needs to

1106
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 3: it's network material. So continue to put them nuggets in there,

1107
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 3: because at some point we're gonna try to get that

1108
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: shit licensed or get a bag for some of that

1109
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: shit to live over here on one of these Especially

1110
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: when you put a nigga, you put somebody like me

1111
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 3: involved with it, where if they don't can't really blackbally

1112
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: where it's like, yo, he don't really know like.

1113
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: They gonna say.

1114
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because even with Act, Bro,

1115
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: you know, all due respect that Act made a lot

1116
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 3: of money, he's not really from our culture. When we

1117
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: really dribble it down, it's like, Bro, you really didn't

1118
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: grow up.

1119
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Well.

1120
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: See, I come up in a situation where I learned

1121
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: I've met every kind of person. Here's the thing about

1122
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: the street, the streets, the drug game, if you really

1123
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: was in it, you have an opportunity to meet all

1124
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: walks of life. I get to see the doctor because

1125
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 3: nine times out of ten, at some point the doctor's

1126
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: on drugs and he comes down to see me.

1127
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: I see the tractor trailer drive, I see damn.

1128
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: There all walks of life, and so you get to

1129
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 3: pick up on habits. You get to pick up on

1130
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: people and how to look at people and view people

1131
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 3: and get things from them and understand what they have

1132
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: to offer. I don't see him being able to survive

1133
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: much longer with that level of content, because soon everybody's

1134
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: gonna be quick trigger, quick trigger, because everybody gonna have

1135
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: a computer or fall.

1136
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: It's just too much content coming out.

1137
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: Bro, man, you know it's uh. I think you're right.

1138
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of people are gonna

1139
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: try and get in on this space and they are

1140
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: going to be recording. Everyone's gonna have a camera. But

1141
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: as you say, I think it's that you know that unique,

1142
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: like whatever makes you unique. You know, your your nugget,

1143
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: your golden nugget, your diamonds, your your facts that you

1144
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: put across, that's what's going to make you stand out.

1145
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: But bro, you know, I totally agree, and I think

1146
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 2: you are a shining example. I think you're a great

1147
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: role model for this culture in this current space and

1148
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: time that we're in. You know, twenty twenty three is

1149
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: it's a crazy time. There's crazy shit going on. You know,

1150
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: the wrap media sphere damn near recognizable from what it

1151
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: was ten years ago. But I think it's super exciting

1152
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of great people coming through and

1153
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: have a conversation.

1154
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 3: Don't appreciate you great, that man, ask you one more question.

1155
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: Do you make enough money to survive off of this stuff?

1156
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 3: What kind of money you making off this shit?

1157
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: Man? I make enough to live comfortably, you know, I live.

1158
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: I do this full time.

1159
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: The seventh fit is.

1160
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: Nah, no, yeah, man, hopefully eventually, but you know I'm granded, man,

1161
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: and you know I don't do it for the money.

1162
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know it would be

1163
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: nice to have seven figures. But I ain't there yet, man,

1164
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 2: But I'm trying.

1165
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: Man.

1166
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: I live a humble life. I'm not too flashy, you know,

1167
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't ball out too much. You know,

1168
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 2: I live a comfortable, happy life, and I'm happy with

1169
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: where I'm at. But you know what I'm saying, I appreciate.

1170
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: You coming through. Like I say, we'll lock in.

1171
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: You got any questions about any culture perspective, hit me.

1172
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: I'll give you my perspective and you go with what

1173
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: you go with, Like not there, whatever I say, you

1174
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 3: got to put in. But if you ever got you know,

1175
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 3: I wonder what the fuck is that about? Like what

1176
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: does that really?

1177
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: You know?

1178
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: You can hit me, you know what I'm saying, and

1179
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 3: then we might do some once in a month where

1180
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 3: we just get on and chop it. You know what

1181
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because I found this conversation to be interesting,

1182
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: both perspectives to be so totally on the opposite that

1183
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: I think the audience, once they get a hold of

1184
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 3: that we're doing this, they'll probably enjoyed.

1185
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: So I had a good time. I appreciate you, Bro, Totally.

1186
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: Appreciate you too. Man.

1187
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: Thanks sir.

1188
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: You have a goal speak against SU for sure, so

1189
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: look yes

1190
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: Passssssssssssssssssss