WEBVTT - 9021One-On-One: Michael Dietz 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.000 It's nine O G Engine with Jenny Garth and Tory 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:13.680 spelling there Hi, Oh my gosh, this is wild. 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:16.400 Yeah, I'm a little grayer than last time. We probably 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:17.239 saw each other. 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.120 A silver fuck I've seen you. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.840 You have. I don't say this was I that was 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:27.159 like five, six, seven years ago. I don't know. I 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:28.800 can't remember. I think I was. Yeah, I think I 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.319 was great, great, pretty gray. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:31.760 It looks so good on you. 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:34.040 Oh, thank you, thank you. So it's like you. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:35.440 Weren't an actor, like I came in and took a 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:36.800 meeting with you producing. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:38.160 That's right. 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.200 The roles were reversed. It was awesome, it was great. 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:41.800 It was great. 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.320 Michael Dets. You still look the same you do. You 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.960 look exactly the same, but you have a great wing on. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:48.640 It's weird. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.920 It's kind of yeah, a little older. God, I mean, 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.120 what are we talking. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:59.960 Like thirty twenty thirty years it's twenty eight. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:00.320 I don't know. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:01.480 You were in season six. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:07.520 Yeah, so that was yeah. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.600 Yeah, you were a doctor or not a you were 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:11.160 a resident. 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.039 I was a I was like a med student, med 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:16.120 student something. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:20.039 Yeah, they like kept mentioning that, right, Yeah, don't you. 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.200 Think it's a little unethical for a med student to 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.040 hit on one of his patients. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.920 I think, so, yeah, I'm going to go with yes. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:31.960 And you were in for cocaine, weren't you. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:33.800 Right, I'm a great catch. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.120 At that point, you're like, oh, I think they're like, 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.080 we got to throw it in. He's not a doctor, 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:45.080 so maybe this storyline is okay. Yeah, exactly, he's in training. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:45.800 Well. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:47.760 It was crazy because I may have mentioned this back 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.480 in the day, but like, really quick, I was at 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.520 Penn State my second year, watching nine to two and 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.720 on a black and white TV in my dorm room. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.000 Never it acted, and uh, and I watched it. It 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.280 was almost coming up on and I was like, first 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:02.720 of all, I had a crush on a little crush 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.160 on Jenny when I was watching it, and I was like, 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.080 Beverly Hills. I had never been to California, and I 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:10.959 was like, it looks like a great place to live, 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.080 and these guys look like they're having fun doing this show. 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.600 And I called my mom, and long story short, she 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.000 got me crush. She's like, what are you doing? I 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.919 knew one guy in Newport Beach I ended up staying 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.440 for the summer Meta manager. It was Lee Daniels, who 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.080 now directs Lee Daniels The Butler, and he was like 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.600 my first manager stayed. My stepfather at the time was like, 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:31.920 you can always go back to school. You may as 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.160 well give it a shot. And like four three four 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.640 years later, I was standing with you. I remember on 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.840 the scene we were about to have a kissing scene, 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.000 and I think it was when Tar, her name was 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.400 the character Tar was watching like from the window, and 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:47.880 I just remember like thinking, I literally stepped through the television. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.920 Set and now I was in color. Oh my god, 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:51.880 you never told me that. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.240 Yeah, that was that true story. It's a really like 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.040 one of the reasons I drove to California. I'm currently 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.280 on the East Coast through the holidays, but the reason 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.959 I drove to LA was that show partly and then 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.560 ended up just staying and then ended up being on 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.520 that show. Was just so bizarre. Still one of those 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.920 stories I tell because it still gives me goosebumps that 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.079 I can't believe that that actually happened. 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.200 That I just got goosebumps too. That's like a like 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.960 a dream come true. You like, should we say you're welcome. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.680 I think we didn't have much to do with it. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.960 That was just like weird, No, but it was. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.160 It was I hadn't saw you and had a little crush. 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.840 Maybe he never done it, that's. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.880 Right, so right, I never. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:34.440 I never. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.680 Yeah, I never got creepy crush vibes from you. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.720 So that at that point, Yeah, that was years and years, 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:44.040 but yeah, the true true story. And then from there, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.000 I think there was a couple of things I did 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:47.880 before and then I remember you guys, we had seen 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.680 Blockbuster that dates it, doesn't it a Blockbuster on Wilshire, 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.880 and I remember toy You and Jenny were like everybody 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.760 that's done the show goes on to like work or 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:59.640 do soaps, and you were naming like all these people. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.960 And then sure enough I ended up, you know, doing 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.320 soaps for six years I think after that show or 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:04.960 seven years. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.480 So it all kind of just what was your like, 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.600 your acting experience prior to doing the show. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.000 I think I did. I want to say, I did 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:18.880 a bay Watch where Pamela Anderson saves me from the 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:19.880 ocean from a gator. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:24.760 Long story and there's a gator in the ocean. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.359 Yeah again, long story came out of a sewer sewer 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.600 drain and Hasselhoff picks me up and puts me in 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:30.480 the truck and. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.679 Was this a dream sequence some other one of your dreams? 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:34.840 It was real? 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.479 It was real, and oh my god. 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.240 So yeah, he puts me in the back of this truck. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:43.400 And that was I think my first first thing. And 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.400 then right as I found out, I got and I 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:51.320 think I got the call to test for Guiding Light, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.520 like I think it was within like I think it 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.880 was pretty close. And then Guiding Light was like my 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.760 first year on on soaps. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:04:59.440 Wow. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.320 But I remember being in your your dad's office toy, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.919 and I was just I was so nervous. I walked in. 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.240 It was down to the final callbacks, I guess, and 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:11.000 I look and there's David Chokichi sitting them like, oh god, 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.279 like what, I like, what am I doing here? Like 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.240 all these people. There's like about four or five guys, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.280 And I just remember recognizing David and and went in 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.560 and your dad was there, and I was just like, 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.960 oh my god, I can't believe I'm in I'm in 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.680 the office here, and and uh and I did the audition. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.760 I just remember the Steelers were playing in the Super 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.720 Bowl like that that following Sunday or something, and your 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.080 dad was like I knew I was a Steeler fan. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.560 I was talking about it and he's like, you want 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.719 to place a ben And I just remember saying, you 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.039 mean my dollar to year like millions? And uh. And 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.479 that was like the last last thing I said. And 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.560 I ended up leaving the office and got a call 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:47.720 I want to say later that day, or like a 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.760 couple of day later or two days later that I 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.400 that I booked it, and I was so excited. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.800 I mean, back then, David Chokichi is still mad at you. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.120 Wait, but did you know that your role was going 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:00.719 to be key? 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.080 I think that's a really good question. I honestly, I 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.000 don't know how much they gave us. I can't remember 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.240 like if it was a you know, just two pages, 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.800 or if there was any context. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.080 To what one of those fake scenes reads, you know, 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:15.920 what's going on. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.160 And especially then, it was probably pretty under wraps. I 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.600 would imagine with the story, you know that the popularity 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.039 and the storylines and stuff. So I don't know, but 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:26.839 I just remember getting the call and I was like, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:28.920 oh my god, I can't I can't believe that that 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.799 this is happening. So and I remember the first day Tory, 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.480 I just remember you walked by. I was in the 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.120 dress room. I just gotten like acclimated, I got sent 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:38.880 and I just remember you coming in. You were the 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.280 sweet as you were like him. So I'm like, yeah, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.039 I know who you are, and you're so kind and 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.400 sweet and made me feel so at home. And I 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.800 always remember that that was like my first, you know, 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.240 first impression, my first experience being like on set. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.520 And and then well we all got to hang out. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.159 Like I never had scenes with you, but like we 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.320 all went out and we're friends in real life. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.920 And during that time, yeah, and I remember, yeah, you 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:07.120 lived on I think Wilshire, someplace on Wilshire, yeah, yeah, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:08.880 And I remember we ran into each other a lot. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.960 And then Jenny, I think I ran The last time 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.840 I ran into you was like in a Ralph's, like 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:18.280 fifteen years ago, the one on Ventura by the across 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.520 from the old Maxwell Maxwell's Drugs, Maxwell Drugs, whatever that 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.720 one is. And I think that was the last time. 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.680 Oh my god, Why don't I remember that because it 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.240 was like it was literally like I, oh my god, 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:34.600 and then like it was like two minutes was it Ralph's? Okay? 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:35.440 So we were groceries? 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.600 Ralph you were, Yeah, you were shopping, and it had 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.240 to be maybe it could be twenty well maybe twenty 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.080 years ago, because I'm trying to think, Yeah, it might 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:45.600 have been fifteen. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.239 And did we say hello to one another? 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:48.440 We did? We did? Yeah? 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.200 And did I reckon? Did I know who? 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:51.840 You realize? Really are? 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.840 You probably remember people? 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.000 We chatted? And then I think that was it. It 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.840 might have been the only time I saw you after 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.760 Oh my god, anything since the show. But and then 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.640 you know, I know Randy's on it, but then you know, 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:09.760 obviously Randy's son, Colton became my son on Poor Charles 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.120 on My Soap, which was. 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.880 So You've got to work with Colti. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:19.559 I did. Now he's so growing up, it's so weird. 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.720 But I loved it. It was It was a great 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.720 It was great. I saw some of the scenes, like 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:27.640 a couple of years ago, I pulled out a VCR 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.480 tape and and there were some scenes of me and him. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.280 Was so sweet, he was so little. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.280 I just realized, you and mister Showbiz have the same hair, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:47.280 exact same hair. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.280 I've seen it recently in some of the posts. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.199 But do you wear tank talks because he wears going 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:54.000 really well. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:55.920 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not doing it. I'm not 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.199 doing the cutoffs with the tank tops yet. But Randy, 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:00.760 maybe you got a you know, he can show me 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:01.240 some style. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:02.280 Oh he will. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.880 But you're still iconically known in the soap world in 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.680 a good way. I'm obsessed with soap operas like Live 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.080 for Them. Do people ever recognize you from now two? 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:12.360 And oh? 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.280 Though, I mean it was only four episodes. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.680 And I made mistake or not mistake, I guess, however 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.000 you look at it, going down to Tijuana Rosa Rito 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.560 maybe spring break with some friends and it was like wow, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.000 one of them while they were still airing, and so 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.560 definitely it's like the one time I remember it was 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.880 like wait then we'd be sitting at the bar and 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.520 I kid you not, there'd be like a preview coming 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:40.000 up and you'd see it flash. Wait after that, I 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:45.360 think for a bit, and soaps very rarely now long ago. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.160 I mean, the last show that I did well, I 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.600 think I can say this because I saw it online. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:53.760 I'm not going to say anything else. But I did 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:58.880 a very short stint recently, the first time in twenty 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:03.880 years in front of camera, and that respect on on days. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:08.200 But I'm not saying anything else because I'm not supposed 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:09.920 to say it. But I did see it online, so 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.600 they I think talked about it. I saw my name 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.960 like a couple days ago, so anyway, but it been 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.840 it's twenty we're talking about twenty years since I did 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.440 Port Charles, Finish Port Charles, and then I did Bold 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.120 and Beautiful was the last one, and my daughter was born, 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.360 so that was twenty one. Yeah, it was twenty one 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:32.360 years ago since I did I'd left a soap opera, which. 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.520 Is crazy, but no one forgets soap operas. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.360 No one ages on soap operas. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.520 No one does. And you know, I've done I hosting, 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.280 I did a couple of things, and then you know, 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:46.760 as you know, I got into producing fully, like twenty 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.000 three years ago. I kind of right when Bold and 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.640 Beautiful was over and just realized how much I loved it. 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:53.880 How did that happen? 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:54.040 Like? 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:58.880 What was the reality? TV? Unscripted was kind of starting, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.400 and I remember thinking, God, you know, I should I 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.520 should pitch some ideas and come up with some ideas 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.360 that I have for different shows and things like that, 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.600 and so basically started kind of putting my own stuff 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:15.480 together and pitching and and then through that a friend 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.839 of mine that worked on Big Brother and was one 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.280 of my favorite shows. My friend Sean was like, you know, 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.560 you'd be great like creating games and doing competition shows 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.920 for for like these type of shows, and I was 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.160 like great. He got me an interview at Big Brother. 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:34.120 My resume was like course, guys like you produce TV. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.520 I'm like no, But I went in and I knew 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.319 the show well enough that I pitched like all these games. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.679 And he called like a week later, and I remember 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.280 him saying, you know, I've got people with like resumes 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.280 like this, but you're you know, the meeting was so great. 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.439 And so I came on as a producer on Big 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:54.360 Brother and then have been kind of working since. Yeah, 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.560 and I just love everything from Apprentice to Minute to 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.280 Win It to a Big Brother to Food Network shows too, 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.280 I mean pretty much everything. 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.440 And you did House Civilains? Correct? 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.120 Did How Civillains last? 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:09.400 First season? 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.520 Yeah? First season? And then Generation Gap I did that 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:17.600 same year with Kelly Rippa and uh. And then I 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.360 do a lot of you know, developing stuff for for 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.559 networks as well in production companies. And then my wife 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.400 and I started pitching a lot of our own stuff 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.240 as well, and so we currently have seven projects in 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.679 various stages of development with you know, we've so I've 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.880 sold option shows like Fox and Sony, and we currently 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:41.440 have one with Reese Witherspoon's company, He'll of Sunshine, And 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:45.600 so we we found we really enjoy that and kind 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.360 of doing our own thing and pitching our own stuff. 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.559 So it's been it's been a lot of fun. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.600 And yeah, like. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.120 Literally we're so we're you know, it's funny because we're 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.440 now Our daughter's twenty two, she's in her final year 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.960 at Duke and we only have the one and we 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:07.079 were empty nesting. So when she went, she was very 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.400 supportive too. She's like, I'm excited to see what you 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.120 guys are gonna do when I go, you know, go 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.680 off to college. And so I kind of feel like 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.600 it's that moment back in you know, college, watching something 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.199 on TV that it's kind of the next chapter. And 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.400 so I keep joking like I feel like a lot 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:22.880 of ways we just got to La. It's like what 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.600 are we going to do now? And you know, there's 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.480 so many opportunities, as everybody knows. The last couple of years, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:33.559 I think in entertainment in general, especially unscripted and but 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.760 but yeah, we've we've enjoyed it, and we're currently we 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.520 did a couple of months on the East Coast now 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:42.479 through the holidays. My wife is here with her mom, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.280 who's not not doing great, and so we're spend some 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.199 time here. My mom's up in Pittsburgh. We've kind of 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.560 been bouncing all around the East Coast the last last 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.800 couple of months and hopefully back in La soon. 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.280 Are you laying in bed at night and you're just like, wait, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.000 I have this idea and then you just like, is 0:13:58.040 --> 0:13:58.720 it the pileon? 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.560 Yeah? Absolutely, Sometimes it pops in. I have to write 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:06.960 it down immediately or I forget it, and yeah, And 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.720 a lot of times it's been like around somebody or 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.120 a talent, right we base it on and then and 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.880 other times, yeah, it's just format. So I'm kind of 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.160 the majority of the stuff is kind of the competition 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.400 game formats that I've done a lot of, you know, 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.800 and it's obviously very competitive. It's not just as easy 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.560 as going out the first thing I sold years ago. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.600 You were asking how I got into it, like write 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.400 around right before Big Brother I started, I actually sold 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.040 a scripted show to NBC and we were in. The 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.680 script was written the weekend that it was going to 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.960 be decided to go into series. A lot of people 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.720 got let go at NBC and the Project Fill apartment. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.760 There was like a Hollywood Reporter article like this is 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.640 going to be lightning in a bottle this series. And 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.800 I was like, oh my god, amazing. And it just didn't. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.800 It just didn't turn out age. By the way, my 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.000 wife was on episode. She was in. She was with 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.840 rick Hurst in an episode or two after me. They 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:05.400 wanted to say, hey, hey, I I think. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.400 I did do a scene with both of you in 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.120 Spring Breakdown. It was many many moons ago. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:12.520 What yeh. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.640 Rick Hurst played a manager and Tiffany and merheessim was 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:19.360 managing her boyfriend and there was a movie premiere and 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.840 I was the the bimbo actress that kind of entered in. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.720 So I thought, I was like, wait, did he just 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.080 say she was on an episode? 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:30.320 Wait? 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:31.360 What? 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:32.120 No? 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:32.880 Spring Breakdown? 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:34.840 It was one Wait and Palm Springs. Were you on 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:35.640 location though? 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.040 No? No, no, no, no, it was in, It was in, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:39.000 It was in town. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.640 Wait was it after you were on? 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.120 See? I was six or eight? Was it eight? I 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.880 feel like, oh later and seven seven. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.000 Yeah, okay, we're gonna look. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.680 Yeah, because Tiffany and Thesim was on it at that point. Yeah, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.000 I'm pretty sure. I don't know if she was on 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:55.720 yours and all, but. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.320 Would you say you played a bimbo? She played a bembo. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:04.280 Tiffany and we all pretended like Cameron Crowe wanted to 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.680 meet me, and so she just showed me away so 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.800 that I wouldn't be near her handsome actor boyfriend that. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.520 She was managing on the show. Oh my gosh, Jen 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.120 We was that when? 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:20.760 Yeah, he was Sex in the City, Jason Lewis, who 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:25.760 went on Sex and the City, Kim Katrell's boyfriend, actor boyfriend, 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:27.680 he played another actor exactly. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.520 I love it. Oh, this has been fun. We're going 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.160 to keep an eye out for you. Then you both 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.800 look lovely. I'll let good to. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:35.720 See you by. Thanks son. 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.840 Wait, that was fun to get to meet her and 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:40.240 and hear that story. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.800 Yeah, we watched. We watched them recently. I think we're 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.200 families and pulled them up and saw. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.840 Okay, so you've done a lot of shows, a lot 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.280 of reality shows. Of all of them, what would you say, 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.080 like was has been your most challenging or the most difficult. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.920 Wow, that's a great question. They're all challenging in their 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.280 own ways. I'd say, you know, we did. I did. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.639 I was a co executive producer on a show called 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.680 Stars earn Stripes. It was with Burnett and Dick Wolf. 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:15.560 Actually even though he scripted and it was there showing. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:20.320 It was celebrities like shooting live ammo and guns and 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.760 jumping out and yeah, we had like Nick Chet like 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.240 all these celebs and it was it was intense. I 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.199 mean it was real. They were shooting machine guns, they 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:29.159 were shooting. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.640 Like everything that sounds like Special Forces now it's. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.880 It's very much. It was very much like like Special Forces. 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.880 But it was this was yeah, you were first, Yeah 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:45.160 we were first, and that just logistically with the safety 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.320 and everything. It was. It was a lot and the 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:51.160 celebs alone. Right then you've got and you've got all 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.880 the military consultants and experts on set all the time 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.399 telling how to do stuff. You know, I mean a 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.120 lot could go wrong and show like that if you're 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:03.040 not careful. I was one of the biggest I think, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.320 and then one of my most fun was the best 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.280 time ever with Neil Patrick Harris. It was a live 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.439 show on NBC and it was just just a blast, 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.040 I mean live on network TV. Wow walk like out 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:15.600 of New York. 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:17.159 Will we talk us through that one? 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.560 Yeah? So it was It was based on it a 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.160 UK series called Saturday Night Takeaway. There's these two guys 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.600 and Deck that are like super popular in the UK 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:29.880 and it's a show that they had and so we, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.640 not me, NBC took it and wanted to do its 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.520 own version. We called it Best Time Ever. But it 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.479