1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: It's nine O G Engine with Jenny Garth and Tory 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: spelling there Hi, Oh my gosh, this is wild. 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little grayer than last time. We probably 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: saw each other. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: A silver fuck I've seen you. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: You have. I don't say this was I that was 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: like five, six, seven years ago. I don't know. I 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: can't remember. I think I was. Yeah, I think I 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: was great, great, pretty gray. 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: It looks so good on you. 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you. So it's like you. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: Weren't an actor, like I came in and took a 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: meeting with you producing. 14 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: That's right. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: The roles were reversed. It was awesome, it was great. 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: It was great. 17 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Michael Dets. You still look the same you do. You 18 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: look exactly the same, but you have a great wing on. 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: It's weird. 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: It's kind of yeah, a little older. God, I mean, 21 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: what are we talking. 22 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Like thirty twenty thirty years it's twenty eight. 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: You were in season six. 25 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was yeah. 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were a doctor or not a you were 27 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: a resident. 28 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: I was a I was like a med student, med 29 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: student something. 30 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, they like kept mentioning that, right, Yeah, don't you. 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: Think it's a little unethical for a med student to 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: hit on one of his patients. 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, I'm going to go with yes. 34 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: And you were in for cocaine, weren't you. 35 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Right, I'm a great catch. 36 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: At that point, you're like, oh, I think they're like, 37 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: we got to throw it in. He's not a doctor, 38 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: so maybe this storyline is okay. Yeah, exactly, he's in training. 39 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: Well. 40 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: It was crazy because I may have mentioned this back 41 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: in the day, but like, really quick, I was at 42 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: Penn State my second year, watching nine to two and 43 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: on a black and white TV in my dorm room. 44 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: Never it acted, and uh, and I watched it. It 45 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: was almost coming up on and I was like, first 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: of all, I had a crush on a little crush 47 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: on Jenny when I was watching it, and I was like, 48 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. I had never been to California, and I 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: was like, it looks like a great place to live, 50 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: and these guys look like they're having fun doing this show. 51 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: And I called my mom, and long story short, she 52 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: got me crush. She's like, what are you doing? I 53 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: knew one guy in Newport Beach I ended up staying 54 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: for the summer Meta manager. It was Lee Daniels, who 55 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: now directs Lee Daniels The Butler, and he was like 56 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: my first manager stayed. My stepfather at the time was like, 57 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: you can always go back to school. You may as 58 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: well give it a shot. And like four three four 59 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: years later, I was standing with you. I remember on 60 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: the scene we were about to have a kissing scene, 61 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: and I think it was when Tar, her name was 62 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: the character Tar was watching like from the window, and 63 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: I just remember like thinking, I literally stepped through the television. 64 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: Set and now I was in color. Oh my god, 65 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: you never told me that. 66 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that true story. It's a really like 67 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: one of the reasons I drove to California. I'm currently 68 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: on the East Coast through the holidays, but the reason 69 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 2: I drove to LA was that show partly and then 70 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: ended up just staying and then ended up being on 71 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: that show. Was just so bizarre. Still one of those 72 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: stories I tell because it still gives me goosebumps that 73 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: I can't believe that that actually happened. 74 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: That I just got goosebumps too. That's like a like 75 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: a dream come true. You like, should we say you're welcome. 76 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: I think we didn't have much to do with it. 77 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: That was just like weird, No, but it was. 78 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: It was I hadn't saw you and had a little crush. 79 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: Maybe he never done it, that's. 80 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: Right, so right, I never. 81 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: I never. 82 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I never got creepy crush vibes from you. 83 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: So that at that point, Yeah, that was years and years, 84 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: but yeah, the true true story. And then from there, 85 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: I think there was a couple of things I did 86 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: before and then I remember you guys, we had seen 87 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: Blockbuster that dates it, doesn't it a Blockbuster on Wilshire, 88 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: and I remember toy You and Jenny were like everybody 89 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: that's done the show goes on to like work or 90 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: do soaps, and you were naming like all these people. 91 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: And then sure enough I ended up, you know, doing 92 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: soaps for six years I think after that show or 93 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: seven years. 94 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: So it all kind of just what was your like, 95 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: your acting experience prior to doing the show. 96 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: I think I did. I want to say, I did 97 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: a bay Watch where Pamela Anderson saves me from the 98 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: ocean from a gator. 99 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: Long story and there's a gator in the ocean. 100 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 2: Yeah again, long story came out of a sewer sewer 101 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: drain and Hasselhoff picks me up and puts me in 102 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: the truck and. 103 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 1: Was this a dream sequence some other one of your dreams? 104 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: It was real? 105 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: It was real, and oh my god. 106 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, he puts me in the back of this truck. 107 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: And that was I think my first first thing. And 108 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: then right as I found out, I got and I 109 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: think I got the call to test for Guiding Light, 110 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: like I think it was within like I think it 111 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: was pretty close. And then Guiding Light was like my 112 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: first year on on soaps. 113 00:04:59,120 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Wow. 114 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: But I remember being in your your dad's office toy, 115 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 2: and I was just I was so nervous. I walked in. 116 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: It was down to the final callbacks, I guess, and 117 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: I look and there's David Chokichi sitting them like, oh god, 118 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: like what, I like, what am I doing here? Like 119 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: all these people. There's like about four or five guys, 120 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: And I just remember recognizing David and and went in 121 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: and your dad was there, and I was just like, 122 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't believe I'm in I'm in 123 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: the office here, and and uh and I did the audition. 124 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: I just remember the Steelers were playing in the Super 125 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: Bowl like that that following Sunday or something, and your 126 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: dad was like I knew I was a Steeler fan. 127 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: I was talking about it and he's like, you want 128 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: to place a ben And I just remember saying, you 129 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: mean my dollar to year like millions? And uh. And 130 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: that was like the last last thing I said. And 131 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: I ended up leaving the office and got a call 132 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: I want to say later that day, or like a 133 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: couple of day later or two days later that I 134 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: that I booked it, and I was so excited. 135 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: I mean, back then, David Chokichi is still mad at you. 136 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: Wait, but did you know that your role was going 137 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: to be key? 138 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: I think that's a really good question. I honestly, I 139 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: don't know how much they gave us. I can't remember 140 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: like if it was a you know, just two pages, 141 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: or if there was any context. 142 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: To what one of those fake scenes reads, you know, 143 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: what's going on. 144 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: And especially then, it was probably pretty under wraps. I 145 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: would imagine with the story, you know that the popularity 146 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: and the storylines and stuff. So I don't know, but 147 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: I just remember getting the call and I was like, 148 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't I can't believe that that 149 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 2: this is happening. So and I remember the first day Tory, 150 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: I just remember you walked by. I was in the 151 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: dress room. I just gotten like acclimated, I got sent 152 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: and I just remember you coming in. You were the 153 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: sweet as you were like him. So I'm like, yeah, 154 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: I know who you are, and you're so kind and 155 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: sweet and made me feel so at home. And I 156 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: always remember that that was like my first, you know, 157 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: first impression, my first experience being like on set. 158 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: And and then well we all got to hang out. 159 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: Like I never had scenes with you, but like we 160 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: all went out and we're friends in real life. 161 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: And during that time, yeah, and I remember, yeah, you 162 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: lived on I think Wilshire, someplace on Wilshire, yeah, yeah, 163 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: And I remember we ran into each other a lot. 164 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: And then Jenny, I think I ran The last time 165 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: I ran into you was like in a Ralph's, like 166 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, the one on Ventura by the across 167 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: from the old Maxwell Maxwell's Drugs, Maxwell Drugs, whatever that 168 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: one is. And I think that was the last time. 169 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Why don't I remember that because it 170 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: was like it was literally like I, oh my god, 171 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: and then like it was like two minutes was it Ralph's? Okay? 172 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: So we were groceries? 173 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: Ralph you were, Yeah, you were shopping, and it had 174 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: to be maybe it could be twenty well maybe twenty 175 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: years ago, because I'm trying to think, Yeah, it might 176 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: have been fifteen. 177 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: And did we say hello to one another? 178 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: We did? We did? Yeah? 179 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: And did I reckon? Did I know who? 180 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: You realize? Really are? 181 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: You probably remember people? 182 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: We chatted? And then I think that was it. It 183 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: might have been the only time I saw you after 184 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god, anything since the show. But and then 185 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: you know, I know Randy's on it, but then you know, 186 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: obviously Randy's son, Colton became my son on Poor Charles 187 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: on My Soap, which was. 188 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: So You've got to work with Colti. 189 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 2: I did. Now he's so growing up, it's so weird. 190 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: But I loved it. It was It was a great 191 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: It was great. I saw some of the scenes, like 192 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, I pulled out a VCR 193 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: tape and and there were some scenes of me and him. 194 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: Was so sweet, he was so little. 195 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: I just realized, you and mister Showbiz have the same hair, 196 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: exact same hair. 197 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: I've seen it recently in some of the posts. 198 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: But do you wear tank talks because he wears going 199 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: really well. 200 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not. I'm not doing it. I'm not 201 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: doing the cutoffs with the tank tops yet. But Randy, 202 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: maybe you got a you know, he can show me 203 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: some style. 204 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: Oh he will. 205 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: But you're still iconically known in the soap world in 206 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: a good way. I'm obsessed with soap operas like Live 207 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: for Them. Do people ever recognize you from now two? 208 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: And oh? 209 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: Though, I mean it was only four episodes. 210 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: And I made mistake or not mistake, I guess, however 211 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: you look at it, going down to Tijuana Rosa Rito 212 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: maybe spring break with some friends and it was like wow, 213 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: one of them while they were still airing, and so 214 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: definitely it's like the one time I remember it was 215 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: like wait then we'd be sitting at the bar and 216 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: I kid you not, there'd be like a preview coming 217 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: up and you'd see it flash. Wait after that, I 218 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: think for a bit, and soaps very rarely now long ago. 219 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the last show that I did well, I 220 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: think I can say this because I saw it online. 221 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say anything else. But I did 222 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: a very short stint recently, the first time in twenty 223 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: years in front of camera, and that respect on on days. 224 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: But I'm not saying anything else because I'm not supposed 225 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: to say it. But I did see it online, so 226 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: they I think talked about it. I saw my name 227 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: like a couple days ago, so anyway, but it been 228 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: it's twenty we're talking about twenty years since I did 229 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: Port Charles, Finish Port Charles, and then I did Bold 230 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: and Beautiful was the last one, and my daughter was born, 231 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: so that was twenty one. Yeah, it was twenty one 232 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: years ago since I did I'd left a soap opera, which. 233 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: Is crazy, but no one forgets soap operas. 234 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: No one ages on soap operas. 235 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: No one does. And you know, I've done I hosting, 236 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: I did a couple of things, and then you know, 237 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: as you know, I got into producing fully, like twenty 238 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: three years ago. I kind of right when Bold and 239 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: Beautiful was over and just realized how much I loved it. 240 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: How did that happen? 241 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: Like? 242 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: What was the reality? TV? Unscripted was kind of starting, 243 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: and I remember thinking, God, you know, I should I 244 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: should pitch some ideas and come up with some ideas 245 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: that I have for different shows and things like that, 246 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: and so basically started kind of putting my own stuff 247 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: together and pitching and and then through that a friend 248 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 2: of mine that worked on Big Brother and was one 249 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: of my favorite shows. My friend Sean was like, you know, 250 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: you'd be great like creating games and doing competition shows 251 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: for for like these type of shows, and I was 252 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: like great. He got me an interview at Big Brother. 253 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: My resume was like course, guys like you produce TV. 254 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm like no, But I went in and I knew 255 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: the show well enough that I pitched like all these games. 256 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: And he called like a week later, and I remember 257 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: him saying, you know, I've got people with like resumes 258 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: like this, but you're you know, the meeting was so great. 259 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 2: And so I came on as a producer on Big 260 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: Brother and then have been kind of working since. Yeah, 261 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: and I just love everything from Apprentice to Minute to 262 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Win It to a Big Brother to Food Network shows too, 263 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: I mean pretty much everything. 264 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: And you did House Civilains? Correct? 265 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: Did How Civillains last? 266 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: First season? 267 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? First season? And then Generation Gap I did that 268 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: same year with Kelly Rippa and uh. And then I 269 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: do a lot of you know, developing stuff for for 270 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 2: networks as well in production companies. And then my wife 271 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: and I started pitching a lot of our own stuff 272 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: as well, and so we currently have seven projects in 273 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: various stages of development with you know, we've so I've 274 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: sold option shows like Fox and Sony, and we currently 275 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: have one with Reese Witherspoon's company, He'll of Sunshine, And 276 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: so we we found we really enjoy that and kind 277 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: of doing our own thing and pitching our own stuff. 278 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: So it's been it's been a lot of fun. 279 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, like. 280 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: Literally we're so we're you know, it's funny because we're 281 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: now Our daughter's twenty two, she's in her final year 282 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: at Duke and we only have the one and we 283 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: were empty nesting. So when she went, she was very 284 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: supportive too. She's like, I'm excited to see what you 285 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: guys are gonna do when I go, you know, go 286 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: off to college. And so I kind of feel like 287 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: it's that moment back in you know, college, watching something 288 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 2: on TV that it's kind of the next chapter. And 289 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: so I keep joking like I feel like a lot 290 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: of ways we just got to La. It's like what 291 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: are we going to do now? And you know, there's 292 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: so many opportunities, as everybody knows. The last couple of years, 293 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: I think in entertainment in general, especially unscripted and but 294 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: but yeah, we've we've enjoyed it, and we're currently we 295 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: did a couple of months on the East Coast now 296 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,479 Speaker 2: through the holidays. My wife is here with her mom, 297 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: who's not not doing great, and so we're spend some 298 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: time here. My mom's up in Pittsburgh. We've kind of 299 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: been bouncing all around the East Coast the last last 300 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: couple of months and hopefully back in La soon. 301 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: Are you laying in bed at night and you're just like, wait, 302 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: I have this idea and then you just like, is 303 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: it the pileon? 304 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Sometimes it pops in. I have to write 305 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: it down immediately or I forget it, and yeah, And 306 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: a lot of times it's been like around somebody or 307 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: a talent, right we base it on and then and 308 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: other times, yeah, it's just format. So I'm kind of 309 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: the majority of the stuff is kind of the competition 310 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: game formats that I've done a lot of, you know, 311 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: and it's obviously very competitive. It's not just as easy 312 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: as going out the first thing I sold years ago. 313 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: You were asking how I got into it, like write 314 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: around right before Big Brother I started, I actually sold 315 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: a scripted show to NBC and we were in. The 316 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: script was written the weekend that it was going to 317 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: be decided to go into series. A lot of people 318 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: got let go at NBC and the Project Fill apartment. 319 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: There was like a Hollywood Reporter article like this is 320 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: going to be lightning in a bottle this series. And 321 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, amazing. And it just didn't. 322 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: It just didn't turn out age. By the way, my 323 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: wife was on episode. She was in. She was with 324 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: rick Hurst in an episode or two after me. They 325 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: wanted to say, hey, hey, I I think. 326 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 5: I did do a scene with both of you in 327 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 5: Spring Breakdown. It was many many moons ago. 328 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: What yeh. 329 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 5: Rick Hurst played a manager and Tiffany and merheessim was 330 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 5: managing her boyfriend and there was a movie premiere and 331 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: I was the the bimbo actress that kind of entered in. 332 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: So I thought, I was like, wait, did he just 333 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: say she was on an episode? 334 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: Wait? 335 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: What? 336 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: No? 337 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: Spring Breakdown? 338 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: It was one Wait and Palm Springs. Were you on 339 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: location though? 340 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 5: No? No, no, no, no, it was in, It was in, 341 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 5: It was in town. 342 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: Wait was it after you were on? 343 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: See? I was six or eight? Was it eight? I 344 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: feel like, oh later and seven seven. 345 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we're gonna look. 346 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, because Tiffany and Thesim was on it at that point. Yeah, 347 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure. I don't know if she was on 348 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 5: yours and all, but. 349 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: Would you say you played a bimbo? She played a bembo. 350 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 5: Tiffany and we all pretended like Cameron Crowe wanted to 351 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 5: meet me, and so she just showed me away so 352 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 5: that I wouldn't be near her handsome actor boyfriend that. 353 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: She was managing on the show. Oh my gosh, Jen 354 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: We was that when? 355 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was Sex in the City, Jason Lewis, who 356 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: went on Sex and the City, Kim Katrell's boyfriend, actor boyfriend, 357 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: he played another actor exactly. 358 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: I love it. Oh, this has been fun. We're going 359 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: to keep an eye out for you. Then you both 360 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: look lovely. I'll let good to. 361 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: See you by. Thanks son. 362 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Wait, that was fun to get to meet her and 363 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: and hear that story. 364 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we watched. We watched them recently. I think we're 365 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: families and pulled them up and saw. 366 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so you've done a lot of shows, a lot 367 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: of reality shows. Of all of them, what would you say, 368 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: like was has been your most challenging or the most difficult. 369 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a great question. They're all challenging in their 370 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: own ways. I'd say, you know, we did. I did. 371 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: I was a co executive producer on a show called 372 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: Stars earn Stripes. It was with Burnett and Dick Wolf. 373 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: Actually even though he scripted and it was there showing. 374 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: It was celebrities like shooting live ammo and guns and 375 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: jumping out and yeah, we had like Nick Chet like 376 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: all these celebs and it was it was intense. I 377 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: mean it was real. They were shooting machine guns, they 378 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: were shooting. 379 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: Like everything that sounds like Special Forces now it's. 380 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: It's very much. It was very much like like Special Forces. 381 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: But it was this was yeah, you were first, Yeah 382 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: we were first, and that just logistically with the safety 383 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: and everything. It was. It was a lot and the 384 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: celebs alone. Right then you've got and you've got all 385 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: the military consultants and experts on set all the time 386 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: telling how to do stuff. You know, I mean a 387 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: lot could go wrong and show like that if you're 388 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: not careful. I was one of the biggest I think, 389 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: and then one of my most fun was the best 390 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: time ever with Neil Patrick Harris. It was a live 391 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 2: show on NBC and it was just just a blast, 392 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: I mean live on network TV. Wow walk like out 393 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: of New York. 394 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: Will we talk us through that one? 395 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? So it was It was based on it a 396 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: UK series called Saturday Night Takeaway. There's these two guys 397 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: and Deck that are like super popular in the UK 398 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: and it's a show that they had and so we, 399 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 2: not me, NBC took it and wanted to do its 400 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: own version. We called it Best Time Ever. But it 401 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 2: was based on that show. So it was like what 402 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: do you call it? A show with a bunch of 403 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: different what's the thing? 404 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Variety show, variety show. 405 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: Thank you? Like there was a lot of Neil kind 406 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: of always had like a live bit he would do. 407 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: We had some remote stuff that I also produced if 408 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: we were on like in Chicago and other places during 409 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: the episodes, but it was basically a variety show. We 410 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 2: had celebrities come on do bits. There was challenges that 411 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: we did. There was you know, like I said, Neil 412 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: singing and dancing and people came on as guests. MC's 413 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: Kelsey Kelsey Grammar like we had you know, one of 414 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: the baldwins. We had Reese Switherspoon on the show. They 415 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: had it like kind of everybody it was a really. 416 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: Fun Hey this sounds great. What happened to that? 417 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: Did one season? And I think probably the budget and 418 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: everything else. I mean, who knows. That's the one thing 419 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: I've I've learned to kind of not trying to figure out. 420 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: I never know what you know, you think something's gonna 421 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: not go, and it goes and vice versa. It's just 422 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: there's so many, so many factors involved in it, especially 423 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: if it goes for a long time. 424 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: You've you've been in it for a minute, I mean, 425 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: all the ups and downs. I'm sure your adventures are interesting. 426 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been. It's been great. It's take some great 427 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: places and you know stuff that I've shot in Ireland 428 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 2: and Australia and all over the place, and it's been 429 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: it's been really fun. 430 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: And you said you prefer being behind the camera instead 431 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: of in front of it. 432 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: I do, I do? 433 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: You know, I always kind of there's a question mark there. 434 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could. I wouldn't want to. I'd want to 435 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: host if that opportunity came up, I think, but to 436 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: go back full time acting again, I don't know. I 437 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: don't know. I I just I get so much out 438 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: of producing and creating, and that it would be it 439 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: would be a weird transition. And now that said, if 440 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: I was something recurring and I could do it while 441 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: I'm producing, for sure, like one hundred percent, kind of 442 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: like I just recently did. And but hosting, I always 443 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: love hosting, and a lot of times with the reality shows, 444 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: I'll kind of host the run throughs and things like 445 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,239 Speaker 2: that before we get our hosts on board. So I 446 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: enjoy that. But producing is just like I just loved 447 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: at My wife will say I got to stop when 448 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: I get help, but my nature is just always producing things. Yeah, 449 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: and I do have to let it go sometimes when 450 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: I walk in the door because it's like, well, wait, 451 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: let's do that. We gotta do this, and what time 452 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: are we doing this? It's like gott to let it go. 453 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 3: Well, she is your life partner and business partner, So 454 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: where do you leave now? 455 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? Now I really have to be careful. But even 456 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: my daughter wud be like, Dad, stop producing us. You cannot. 457 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. 458 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 2: So but it's been great, you know, and look, if 459 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: it's the right thing, and maybe as I get older, 460 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: you know, I end up coming back to it. I 461 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: keep thinking there is a chance I end up bookending, 462 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, my my career and somehow I'm acting because 463 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: it's I'd much rather be sixty five seventy on a 464 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: show acting than running around putting out fires at that age, 465 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: so you never know. 466 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, producing is hard work. 467 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's a lot. 468 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: Acting is a lot easier. Just go get your makeup done. 469 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: It's not easier, right, Well, I don't want to say 470 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: that to any action because it's really it is hard. 471 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: Obviously the lines. By the way, this recent thing I forgot, 472 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: like you forget that muscle, I'm like, can I do 473 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: this again? Well, i'd be able to retain this, like 474 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: and what happened? I did, just like getting back on 475 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: a bike. 476 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: I was like, soap operas are different, Like how many 477 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: pages a day? 478 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: Do you guys? Typically what? 479 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: Well? I mean, if it's an hour show, you could 480 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: you could have twenty pages. 481 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: Imagine Jen like would be screwed with like eight pages. 482 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: We'd be like, oh my god, we have so much 483 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 3: dialogue today. 484 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: I would feel the same exact way, Like if I 485 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: was having to memorize something and go act right now, 486 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh my god, I don't know if 487 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: I can do it. 488 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: I was blessed to luck out on with the exception 489 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: of Guying Light. It was only a year, but a 490 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: port Charles and Bold and Beautiful were half an hour shows, 491 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: so it was the same deal, but half the show. 492 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: You definitely didn't have as much Jay. I got to 493 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: ask you, Jenny, do you remember. 494 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: Because I was laughing, I'm just gonna say no. 495 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: When we both I think I went out and got 496 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: a car when I was on the show, and you 497 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: went out to the same lady and got a car. 498 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: And there's the joke about lipstick. You don't remember any 499 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: of that to you. Probably not lipstick in a cart 500 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: a BMW from a woman on Wilshire and we had 501 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: this joke that she always kind of had some lipstick 502 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: on her and we would be on set and you 503 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: got like who I was like, oh my god, happened 504 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: to go to the same lady within like a couple 505 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: of weeks of me, and we chance No. I think 506 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: I got it first, and Jenny's like, where'd you get that? 507 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: And I said you should go talk to this lady 508 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: and then. 509 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: We have the same car. Did I get the same 510 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: car as you. 511 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: No, you got something different anyway. I just I just 512 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: remember that, like I love. 513 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: That you remember that. I wish I did. 514 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: Well now that you brought it back around. Can we 515 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 3: talk about Resident Greg for a second, because our fans 516 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: really a ka us what happened. We weren't as fans 517 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: rewatching the show, as viewers were perplexed. We're like, he 518 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 3: never comes back, He's just gone the whole tear. 519 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: I think Tara. Tara's shared the crap out me. 520 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: Why didn't he try? 521 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: Sorry? 522 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, right, it was weird. 523 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: She said that Kelly wasn't up for a relationship, and she. 524 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: Planted that seat in my head and then I just 525 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: kind of backed off and then it just kind of 526 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: and that was it. 527 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: We never see you again. 528 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: You're never mentioned again. We're very upcited about it as yours. 529 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, because I remember too. I was like, 530 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: maybe this goes, maybe this something happens. I'm still waiting, guys, 531 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: by the way, So yeah, I don't know. It was 532 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: a weird. It was a weird ending. Yeah, I watched 533 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: them again reboot. 534 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: On the reboot. 535 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: On the reboot, we got your number, We'll book it. 536 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: Into your acting career with that. 537 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 2: There you go, that would be funny. Twenty fifty. 538 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: Nine O two one old. 539 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a weird ending. I just you 540 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: know that that whole thing. I mean, it was obviously 541 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: the single white female storyline, which was which was crazy. 542 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, I watched it recently and I kind of 543 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: forgotten some of it, and I was like, oh, yeah 544 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: that she totally tells me, like, you know, she's just 545 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: getting out of you know, the rehab, and she's trying 546 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: to get her life together, and you know you should 547 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: probably just give her some space. And and so I 548 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 2: will say I was probably taking the high road as 549 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: the med student. 550 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got your like scruples back for a moment, 551 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: the high road. 552 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: I shouldn't be dating a patient. But now I'm going 553 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: to let her, you know, become her best self by 554 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: me not being part of it. And yeah, and then 555 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 2: that was that was the end. 556 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: Very Yeah, Very you made a big impact. We liked 557 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: Kelly and Greg together and we wanted to see more 558 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: of you. 559 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: I wish I would have and I wish I wish 560 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: I would have thought through my hair back in the 561 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: day on that I watched it. I'm like what was 562 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: I thinking. It's like this crazy weird but I guess 563 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: that was. 564 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: The thinking the same thing. Yeah, my hair, you look back, geez. Yeah, 565 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: what was it all? 566 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's great. I yeah, I lucked out because 567 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: it was all so nerve wracking because I had obviously, 568 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 2: we had our scenes Jenny, but then I had some 569 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: party scenes where I had to walk in and it 570 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: was the entire cast and I was just like, oh 571 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: my god, oh my god, it's such a dork. But 572 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: I remember it's when your brother Tory, well, when Randy 573 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: Forget his character got and passed out, and. 574 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: Oh when you come through the door and somebody makes 575 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: you say a poem or something. 576 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brian had the camera and he's filmed 577 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: me on like he goes, I have a message, and 578 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: I was, and I forget. It was like rose and 579 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: revelized it was something something and you have birthday to 580 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: you or something. 581 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't know you, but happy birthday to you. 582 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I just remember being unsetty. He got 583 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: yeah he was drunk. He was drinking off the side, 584 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: and then I came over. I go, is the way 585 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: I'm a med student? 586 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: Right? 587 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: You did? Thank god you were there, Kelly call nine 588 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: one one. 589 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: I think you said I didn't been the guy. It 590 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: was helping out there. But and I remember, yeah, we 591 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: had the bulling scene that we shot down in the 592 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: valley and then yeah, and then that's when Tara kind 593 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 2: of started also kind of like grabbing my arm, and 594 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: you know, it was getting a little a little weird 595 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: and creepy with her Page was her name, I think 596 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: page Page. 597 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 598 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had fun though, I think that that even 599 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: though it was weird and icky, we had fun doing it. 600 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: It was a great I mean a great story for 601 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: back then. I mean that was such a great, you know, lifetime, 602 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: single white female kind of story. Yeah, it's just everybody 603 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 2: loved and but yeah, I just kind of faded off. 604 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: I'm trying to even think the last scene like that 605 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: I was even seen. I don't remember the exact last 606 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: time on camera, but it was probably that Tara saying 607 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: something to me, because I don't think I do you remember, Jane. 608 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 2: I don't know if I called, like I didn't have 609 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: I didn't have a formal. 610 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: Like flowers to be bye. Well, I didn't send him flowers, Tara. 611 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: Tara sent him flowers from me. Oh, saying it's over, 612 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: and then he sends her flower. She sends Kelly flowers 613 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: from him. It says it's over. Yeah, yeah, so it's 614 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: a double flower. 615 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: By the way, I remember this very clearly, exactly what 616 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: you're doing now. We all did Tara, Tara, tart We 617 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: did it all we did. Do you go so Tar, No, 618 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 2: it's Tara, Okay, try it again, Tara No, Tara. 619 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: There was something about that name. I cannot get it right. 620 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: Every time ye had we had many retakes because I 621 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: either somebody was saying it wrong. 622 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: We just say, Tara, Tara, What you just did? I 623 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: think it was Tara. I honestly don't know. I said 624 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: I think it was Tara, and I instantly thought it 625 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: was Tar. 626 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: I definitely did some taras I think in the mix. 627 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's such good memories talking to you 628 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: and seeing you. This is really fun. 629 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: Wise, miss you, guys, miss you, Randy. 630 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: Come back. 631 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm hopefully we'll be back in the in the next 632 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. We'll get back. But we kind of 633 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: put it laws. We we kind at least this amazing 634 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: place for like twelve years, and the landlord was like, 635 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: you know, I want to move back into this this home. 636 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: I love this home. I'm getting a little older. We're 637 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: like great, So we put everything into storage. So it's 638 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: all sitting in LA. We're just waiting now to come 639 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: back and pull it right back out and figure out 640 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: where we're gonna where we're gonna go. 641 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: But what's up for you? Yeah, what's next? What's your 642 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: next chapter? It's so exciting being an energy chapter. 643 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: Hopefully with that there's a there's a job that there's 644 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: something more of a long term thing that I that 645 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: I hope to get that. If that happens, then for 646 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: sure I'm back very soon full time. So we'll see. 647 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: We're sending you good energy. 648 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and then hopefully a couple of 649 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: these shows to get on the air. 650 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: And we love a good challenge killing keep us in mind. 651 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: Thank you. It's so great to see you guys. 652 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: Really good to see you too. Thanks for coming on 653 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: of course, by bye bye.