WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Paul is dead

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Thinking Sideways the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Devin joined you know most weeks by and Steve. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This week we're going to talk about a mystery which

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<v Speaker 1>I guess probably will surprise most of you. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>scary mystery because it involved a dead body. It does

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe not talked. Will you ask? Yeah, it really does. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The mystery, I guess we're just going to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>um Paul is dead and yes, this is a Beatles mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish we had a sound effective like girls screaming Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't. We don't. So. Paul McCartney of the

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<v Speaker 1>Beatles is who we're talking about. You know, there there

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<v Speaker 1>are four of them. Two of them are dead or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe three. Ringo Star is definitely alive. Nobody has ever

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<v Speaker 1>cared about Ringo Star. I was when I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>my rear. When I was doing my research, I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading this quote of like, um, it was something like

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<v Speaker 1>George Harrison was the heart of the Beatles, John Lennon

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<v Speaker 1>was the voice or no, the soul of the Beatles,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul McCartney was the voice of the Beatles, and Ringo

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<v Speaker 1>was the drummer. It's like how people actually Ringo Ringo

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<v Speaker 1>had more top ten hits after they broke up than

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<v Speaker 1>John Lennon did. Yeah, he's I mean, he's pretty talent

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<v Speaker 1>it but um, so we're we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this theory, this mystery that Paul McCartney actually died and

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<v Speaker 1>was replaced sometimes in the sixties, sometimes in the sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk details right now. The theory goes that

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<v Speaker 1>Paul McCartney actually died in a car accident at five

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<v Speaker 1>am on Wednesday, November nine, nineteen sixty six. Paul had

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly picked up a female hitchhiker on his way to

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<v Speaker 1>visit friends. The woman became really really excited when she

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<v Speaker 1>realized who had picked her up, and screamed and threw

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<v Speaker 1>her arms around Paul, and that caused him to lose

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<v Speaker 1>control of the car uh and he rammed it into

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<v Speaker 1>a wall. Paul was decapitated by the accident, apparently, and

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<v Speaker 1>the trauma to his head was so bad that even

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<v Speaker 1>dental records were useless. Did she die too, She also died.

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<v Speaker 1>How do they know she screened to put her arms

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<v Speaker 1>around him. That's what I was wondering, right, good question.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the five It was at five am? He

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<v Speaker 1>was going to visit friends, Okay, okay. Anyway, this was

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<v Speaker 1>at the height of when the Beatles really really becoming popular,

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<v Speaker 1>and so record executives decided that instead of upsetting the

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<v Speaker 1>fans quote unquote um, they would just replace Paul with

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<v Speaker 1>a fall If you will, fake Paul, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>thing you will see all over yea, So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna refer to him as such. Um. But the

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<v Speaker 1>record executives decided to just replace Paul with fall Um

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<v Speaker 1>and then just continue on as if nothing had ever happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, probably the other three members agreed, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they would continue to make money and be popular and

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<v Speaker 1>have success, which they may or may not have if

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<v Speaker 1>Paul ended up actually being dead. The surviving Beatles did, however,

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<v Speaker 1>plant clues in all of the rest of their albums,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the cover art and stuff like that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that the fans knew that Paul had

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<v Speaker 1>actually died. The Record executives and I guess maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>other Beatles, I don't know who had a second right,

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<v Speaker 1>but they decided to replace Paul with a man named

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<v Speaker 1>William Campbell who had recently won a Paul McCartney lookalike contest,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, Billy they call him Billy Campbell. Actually they

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<v Speaker 1>call him something totally different, but we'll talk about that later.

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<v Speaker 1>William Campbell or whoever they decided to replace Paul went

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<v Speaker 1>through some extensive plastic surgery to make sure that he

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<v Speaker 1>looked as much like Paul as possible. But he had

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<v Speaker 1>this little scar either on his lip or chin, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on who you talked to, that couldn't be fixed. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it was happy accident that you know it had

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<v Speaker 1>he probably been in a car accident. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>okay because yeah, he had some stuff that looks a

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<v Speaker 1>little different. Um, but you know, it turned out it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay because you know, Paul was in a car accident.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Record executives, he just you know, chipped

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<v Speaker 1>a tooth and had a scar. Are not got to

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<v Speaker 1>captate and replaced. That's a much happier story. Find story. Yeah. Also, apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the legend, it turns out that William Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>could totally sing and was a songwriter, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>really really good at creating pop melody. So he just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He sounded almost exactly with a little tweaking. He sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like Paul, you can always alter your vocal cords to yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>with just a little plastic surgery. It's fine. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I ended up sounding like guitar string ring the exactly. Yeah. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's it's kind of silly, right, this whole story

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit a little silly. Yeah, So are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna are you gonna kind of conclude right now that

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<v Speaker 1>it's absurd? Yeah? Story over episode overall credits. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I was when I was a kid, this story

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<v Speaker 1>was making the rounds, and somebody showed me, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, man, it's like it's true, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it showed me the cover of Abbey Road

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<v Speaker 1>and Paul's barefoot and we're gonna talk about that, don't

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<v Speaker 1>go too far into that. But but my reaction was

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<v Speaker 1>so what you know, and I was just a kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've always been like this. So the story, this

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<v Speaker 1>story really gained It was in the news, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of news outlets reported immediately that Paul had

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<v Speaker 1>died in this car accident. And I should mention that

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<v Speaker 1>it is true that a car belonging to Paul McCartney

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<v Speaker 1>did crash on that night at that time. Whether he

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<v Speaker 1>was in it or not, I'll be let you be

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<v Speaker 1>the judge, like, yeah, exactly, I think it was. Um no,

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<v Speaker 1>just kidding anyway, So the news outlets did immediately report

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<v Speaker 1>that Paul had been killed, but then retracted it, um

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<v Speaker 1>presumably because the record executives or whoever was behind the replacement.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, they you know, they said no, no, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>wait wait, no, Paul's here, he's fine, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the news outlets were like, all right, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're right, we were probably wrong. But a really

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<v Speaker 1>intrepid investigative journalist from the well known publication called The

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Star really broke this case open and made it popular.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know, you guys know the Northern Star, right

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<v Speaker 1>of course, right yeah, the Illinois University student newspaper, right,

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<v Speaker 1>hard hitting journalism. No Okay, well, in this article it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of exposed the conspiracy quote unquote, and it was Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It was either that one or depending on where you

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<v Speaker 1>read it, the editor of the Drake Times Delphic, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Drake University's student newspaper, either of these, and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't find the original one, shocking, but the article whichever one,

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<v Speaker 1>whichever student newspaper was in, came out on September seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty nine. The credit is kind of spread all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place because they're like four other places who

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<v Speaker 1>also say no, no, we came up with this first,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought they definitively identified the guy who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>the original story. That's not true. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people who give credit that's that's credit. Well, no, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who point credit at different people,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just happens to be. I think there's a crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy who's named Um is the editor at the

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<v Speaker 1>Drake University newspaper. But I've also seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>sources that say, actually, it was the Northern Star. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just choosing to say it's some university newspaper, which

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the safest bet in It's kind of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of amazing, even before the internet wild rumors got started. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. The this article added a little something to

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<v Speaker 1>the story that we just told, and that was that

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<v Speaker 1>in the Beatles song Revolution nine, um, if you played

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<v Speaker 1>it backwards, you would reveal a hidden message. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>actually gonna examine that right now, and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you what they said it said because I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to just hear it. So first it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to play forwards, and then there'll be a pause, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it'll play backwards, and then we'll be back to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what it reportedly says. Number nine, number nine,

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<v Speaker 1>number nine, number nine, number nine, number nine, number nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So what did you hear? Nothing? Yeah, you's so glad.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe did listen that until just now. We just played

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<v Speaker 1>it for him in the studio and he had never

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<v Speaker 1>heard it. Um. And apparently he didn't read my script either,

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<v Speaker 1>so he doesn't know what it was supposed to have said. Um, Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>did you when you listen to it? Did you hear anything?

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<v Speaker 1>If you stitch it together in your mind, you can

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<v Speaker 1>make something out of it. It doesn't clearly say something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so apparently it's saying, um, turn me on dead Man

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<v Speaker 1>when it's played backwards, and unfortunately, I will say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean unfortunately, I will say that for all of

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<v Speaker 1>these sound clips that we're talking about. Unfortunately, I read

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<v Speaker 1>before I listened, so it was pretty easy for me

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<v Speaker 1>to hear some of it, not all of it, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of it. Well, this is this is this one particularly,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the most concrete of the sound clips that

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<v Speaker 1>you've sent us before, because there were a number of

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<v Speaker 1>them that I kept. You know, it's not you see

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<v Speaker 1>them on YouTube and they put the text up and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading the text and I'm looking at it, and

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<v Speaker 1>only here is yeah, there's nothing there. There's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>the Paula's dead Man miss and miss and miss, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can sort of hear that in there kind of

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you can't. And again but again that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those ones that um, I read before, I read about

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<v Speaker 1>it before I heard it, and so I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how much of that influence influences that because that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I was like, this is gibberish, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to it four times before I started to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get it. Yeah, So I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>put that out there that um, when we're talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you ask you this, What if you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to play that backwards? Do you do you just

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<v Speaker 1>rotate the album backwards on a on a turntable or

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<v Speaker 1>do you tape it and then run the tape backwards?

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<v Speaker 1>How how do you go about doing that? Well, that

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<v Speaker 1>one that we just played, I presume was a digital

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<v Speaker 1>digitally reverse copy. But I would assume back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day, what you had you had to

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<v Speaker 1>take because the record needle is meant to run one

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<v Speaker 1>way in the group, So what people would have to

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<v Speaker 1>do is they would essentially have to lift the arm

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<v Speaker 1>out of its its socket, the record player arm, and

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<v Speaker 1>then rotate at ninety degrees so that when the track

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<v Speaker 1>was running backwards, it was still writing in the groove

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<v Speaker 1>instead of pushing into the group. I've seen it done.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it's hokey. That's one of my that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my theories is that the person who put this out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I really just wanted to get a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people to ruin their albums. This is like, what was

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<v Speaker 1>that stupid game that was out for a while for

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<v Speaker 1>tossing your cell phone into the air? Yeah? Yeah, could

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<v Speaker 1>you toss your phone just so people would be dumb

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<v Speaker 1>and break them. I was I was actually gonna write

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<v Speaker 1>write a phone app for your for your cell phone,

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<v Speaker 1>for your iPhone and you and your droid. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>scale and so that's so you're up up the scale

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<v Speaker 1>and then it just waste things and then you just

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<v Speaker 1>you just you know, you just you know, you set

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<v Speaker 1>it on the ground and you get on the scale

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<v Speaker 1>and perfect. I think that's a great idea. I can

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<v Speaker 1>maybe make money. Sorry, let's get back on UM. So

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<v Speaker 1>that little revelation UM really spurred people to start looking

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<v Speaker 1>for clues, and actually there were a lot of aired

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<v Speaker 1>uh comments and fans calling into certain DJs, and then

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<v Speaker 1>news articles, most notably in the Michigan Daily, which is

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<v Speaker 1>actually reputable source, or at least was at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is kind of when I guess collective clue

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<v Speaker 1>finding started to happen, but it really kind of took

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<v Speaker 1>off at that point. So we're gonna there's not I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's theories about this. It's going to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a different episode. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the what I'm calling the clues quote unquote them. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of them, and but they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>proof for one or the other. But we're gonna commingle.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about, you know, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>and then go back and talk about why they may

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<v Speaker 1>or may not be true. Um. And that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of the format instead of seeing, here's the

0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.160
<v Speaker 1>theories for, and here's the theories against, because there's so

0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.800
<v Speaker 1>much and you know, frankly, the theories against are like, well,

0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that's dumb, and I don't want to do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to actually address Yeah, and bye, thanks everyone. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's start talking about clues. And I guess the the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that we're going to talk about a cigarette

0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.319
<v Speaker 1>that was found outside his apartment and that was weird

0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.600
<v Speaker 1>because he didn't smoke. Nobody in England at that time

0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.280
<v Speaker 1>smoke no no no. Um. One of the big clues

0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:18.120
<v Speaker 1>came from Strawberry Fields Forever. And at the end, apparently

0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you can hear John Lennon saying I buried Paul Um

0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and then actually speaking of speaking stuff, let's listen to

0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:36.880
<v Speaker 1>something else for a second. He begs him him. You

0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:41.800
<v Speaker 1>can clearly hear gibberish interspersed with Paul is dead, miss him,

0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.080
<v Speaker 1>miss him, miss him? Right? You heard that right, Okay,

0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:50.400
<v Speaker 1>So for the I buried Paul Thing. Um No, he

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<v Speaker 1>says cranberry sauce twice. I think I don't know why

0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.880
<v Speaker 1>he says cranberry sauce. They were loaded, Yeah, probably that.

0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but the Beatles were having a hi old time,

0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.000
<v Speaker 1>no pun intended. Yeah they weren't. They weren't as extreme

0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.040
<v Speaker 1>as the Rolling Stones by any means, or you know,

0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.120
<v Speaker 1>or the Doors Morrison. He was yeah, yeah, So John

0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Lennon actually says cranberry sauce at the end of Strawberry

0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Fields Forever. You can find some pretty good YouTube videos

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<v Speaker 1>of it slowed down really far, and it's extra clear

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<v Speaker 1>that he says cranberry sauce. Is much like um Daft

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<v Speaker 1>Punk when they put out that song two years ago

0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and everybody thought it was saying Mexican Monkey. And remember

0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that Daft Punk. They their their new record came out

0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years back, and the first song on it,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what it actually says, but everybody was like,

0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it's Shane Mexican Monkey. And to the point that band

0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.560
<v Speaker 1>was got on the Internet and said, please stop telling

0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:49.600
<v Speaker 1>people it says Mexican Monkey. But I can't remember what

0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.400
<v Speaker 1>it says now that you put me on the spot.

0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.480
<v Speaker 1>But everybody, you know I heard it. I was like,

0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear that until somebody's told me that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it said. Oh yeah, because you know, sometimes when songs happen,

0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you're not exactly sure how the annunciation is working. Yeah,

0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and to that point, um, this whole Paul

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<v Speaker 1>is dead miss him, miss Him part. I disagree. I

0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.640
<v Speaker 1>don't hear it at all, like at all. Yeah, this

0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.800
<v Speaker 1>is the one I was. I listened to it four times.

0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I kept reading it before I figured out what it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to say. I could hear it in there,

0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.440
<v Speaker 1>but I had already seen the text. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also don't know what was meant to be said there,

0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Like nobody has ever said no, no, this person is

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<v Speaker 1>saying this, so I could self correct. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>that was the only thing for him, miss him. Yeah,

0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a backwards recording. Yeah, but I mean it doesn't matter,

0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.440
<v Speaker 1>like it would be easy for them to say, like, wow,

0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's this yeah, gibberish forwards and backwards. Well I

0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think it was gibberish for it is. I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to it. It's gibberish. I swear you're wrong. I thought

0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that was actual words at that point when it was

0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.800
<v Speaker 1>going forward. It's gibberish going forward. It actually sounds more

0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.760
<v Speaker 1>like words going backwards than it does forwards. And that

0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.639
<v Speaker 1>recorded this. Oh man, I think it was Lennon talking

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.000
<v Speaker 1>at that point. Sorry, you know what, it could be

0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.679
<v Speaker 1>something completely I watched. I tried to watch The Yellow

0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Submarine this week just to do extra research, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was a giant mistake. That's not not my favorite Beatles movie.

0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah it was. I don't remember watching that and

0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:30.399
<v Speaker 1>I had stopped. Yeah, so another clue here is UM

0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:37.879
<v Speaker 1>something else album covers. Quickly, we'll talk about the Yesterday

0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and Today cover UM, which was initially baby Dolls dismembered

0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.959
<v Speaker 1>exactly like Paul was in the accident, right right right.

0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.960
<v Speaker 1>The producers thought that it was a bit much, so

0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.280
<v Speaker 1>they replaced it worth from one where Paul was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in a box, which was obviously meant to be a coffin.

0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.240
<v Speaker 1>It was a big trunk. It was like a shipping

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<v Speaker 1>or steamer trunk. But no, actually, that's silly. I've listened

0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to some interviews with Lennon uh and he says that

0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to quote break the Beatles image unquote of

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<v Speaker 1>being a good boy band and to show quote that

0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.000
<v Speaker 1>we were aware of life unquote and um not some angels.

0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.840
<v Speaker 1>And then I think that second one probably signifies like

0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:21.680
<v Speaker 1>we feel like we're being put in a box. Very likely.

0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I were the Beatles and I was

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<v Speaker 1>hearing all these rumors that would be had attempted to

0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:30.200
<v Speaker 1>have a little fun with it. Totally. Yeah. The hard

0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.280
<v Speaker 1>problem with that is that, I mean there were Beatles

0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:40.040
<v Speaker 1>fan clubs in every town across the world, and and

0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:45.880
<v Speaker 1>they were The fans were voracious, and nobody get upset

0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.960
<v Speaker 1>at me because my Beatles knowledge is a little weak

0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:52.120
<v Speaker 1>in general. I'm not you know some no, but I'm

0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:57.119
<v Speaker 1>not a Beatle just but those people were rabid and

0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I could just imagine that if you were caught messing

0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.359
<v Speaker 1>with them, it would be bad. Yeah. Absolutely, that's true. Yea,

0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess people working. That's where the word band comes from.

0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.960
<v Speaker 1>It's fanatic yep. So yeah, they're guardo crazy. Uh pretty much. Okay,

0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Next is the um Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band

0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.280
<v Speaker 1>album cover. It's a big one. We're going to talk

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.320
<v Speaker 1>to all that stuff. Um. And as a side note,

0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:27.240
<v Speaker 1>this is my favorite Beatles album. Alright, so let's just

0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.040
<v Speaker 1>go through them all real quick. Here. Um, there's a

0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.920
<v Speaker 1>hand over Paul's head all the as though he was

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.480
<v Speaker 1>being blessed by a priest before being interred across this

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 1>grave site. You should look this up. If you look

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.119
<v Speaker 1>it up before you pause us google it, yeah, and

0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.200
<v Speaker 1>then come back. Cool, you're back, Welcome back. Across the

0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.320
<v Speaker 1>grave site is a bass guitar that's oriented the way Paul,

0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.720
<v Speaker 1>who was left handed, would have played it. Is it

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.760
<v Speaker 1>a grave site. It's a big area with flowers on it. Yeah.

0:19:58.200 --> 0:19:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think it's meant to be a great

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<v Speaker 1>of even like not in weird interpretations. I think it's

0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.680
<v Speaker 1>meant to be kind of signifying the death of the

0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>old Beatles. I mean, there's so some of the some

0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 1>symbolism that the sympology that we're not going to talk

0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.639
<v Speaker 1>about is. Um, if you're if you haven't stopped and

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.760
<v Speaker 1>googled it and found it. There's these wax figures of

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.960
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote the old Beatles and then um, the new

0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Beatles in there like technicolor uniforms, and so I think

0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to signify them finally being able to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of break their old mold of the boy band and

0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:31.359
<v Speaker 1>going into this new genre. So I do believe it

0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 1>is meant to be a grave site either way. The

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:40.520
<v Speaker 1>strings on the bass guitar made out of flowers are

0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 1>made of sticks, but there are only three sticks instead

0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 1>of four, just because there would be three beatles instead

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of four without Paul the base. Yeah. If you hold

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.639
<v Speaker 1>a mirror across the middle of the words lonely Hearts

0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that are written in the center of the drum, in

0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Speaker 1>the very center of the album cover, you only see

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<v Speaker 1>I one I x he die with like little I

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>don't actually know what those things are called. The greater

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.440
<v Speaker 1>than Yeah. But by the way you're you're reflecting the

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.640
<v Speaker 1>top part of the letters. So it's the top part

0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.280
<v Speaker 1>of the letters which reflecting, not the bottom. Yeah, and

0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:23.360
<v Speaker 1>not you're not it's not in the center horizontal. Yeah,

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it's horizontal reflecting the top down exactly. So rearrange a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Given some spaces, uh, it should say I

0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.240
<v Speaker 1>want I x he um you know, greater than less

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:40.280
<v Speaker 1>than uh die, which the image suggests. The date which

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.440
<v Speaker 1>is eleven nine or November ninety six. That Paul died,

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and the diamond in between the words he and die

0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:51.560
<v Speaker 1>points directly at Paul. So obviously that is a sign

0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that Paul died on November nine, actually greater than listen

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.400
<v Speaker 1>symbol that. Look at the image for ding Dong's it's

0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it's just a diamond, yeah kind of And actually it

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:05.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't say he die. It says it says one one

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:08.399
<v Speaker 1>E or I I E. No, that's just a bad image,

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>is that? What it is actually is a cross a

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.640
<v Speaker 1>little cross piece there. It's it's from the internet, of course,

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 1>it's UM. There was a model of an Aston Martin,

0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.200
<v Speaker 1>which was the type of car that Paul was supposedly

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 1>driving at the time of his fatal accident, leaned against UM.

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.440
<v Speaker 1>A doll's leg in the picture, and the interior of

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:30.400
<v Speaker 1>this car is apparently read, which symbolizes Paul's bloody accident.

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.760
<v Speaker 1>There's a a grandmother figure that a doll is laying on,

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and there's something that looks much like a bloody stained

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 1>driving globe UM sitting there with that. There's a Japanese

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.399
<v Speaker 1>stone figure on the other side in front of the

0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 1>wax images of these younger beetles, and it's got a

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>line on its head, which obviously represents the head wound

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that Paul sustained in his fatal accident or decapitation. I

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.640
<v Speaker 1>don't really know. The there's a four armed Indian doll

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.639
<v Speaker 1>and front in like the very front center. Two of

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the dolls arms are raised pointing directly at New Paul

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>fall and Paul Old Paul UM, which apparently signifies something.

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>The television set on the ground to the right of

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the Beatles is turned off, suggesting that the news of

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the tragedy had been suppressed. And then UM in the photo.

0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 1>On the sleeve of Paul's uniform is a patch that

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 1>says O p D, which is obviously UM stands for

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>officially pronounced dead. Right, So you guys want to go

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>back and talk about some of these, Yeah, So I

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:42.119
<v Speaker 1>actually looked up UM. I actually was able to find

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>some behind the scenes pictures of this photo shoot, which

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 1>we're actually really really interesting from the different angles and

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>just people. It was actually like UM people painting the

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.439
<v Speaker 1>figures that are standing behind them and getting them all

0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 1>set up, and then the Beatles in different pose is

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and the Beatles kind of just hanging out, and so

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 1>that was really interesting and also very enlightening. So let's

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about what that informed me of

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.479
<v Speaker 1>for this stuff. The idea that there's a hand over

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Paul's head as though he were being blessed, that's a

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.639
<v Speaker 1>that's a waving figure. He just happens to be standing

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.119
<v Speaker 1>in front of picture of somebody who's who's waving was

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>waving in the original. Yes, there's another photo that you

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>know just as well could have been the album cover

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and John Lennon was standing under it. So does that

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>mean that that was also a sign that John Lennon

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>was going to be assassinated? That Oh my god, the

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 1>bass guitar also looks exactly like a p so maybe

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>it actually stands for Paul, or even if you squint

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>really hard, it could even spell out Paul. Either way,

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's silly just in general that its gar Yeah,

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I've actually seen some pretty funny images of this where

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>people have also insert did other things, so that, um,

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the I think something about camera what part of it.

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>But it says lies in the main text of Sergeant Pepper.

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:10.679
<v Speaker 1>But the funny thing is that if you look at

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the original and then you look at this one, that

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 1>shows that it says lies it's so freaking photoshop it's absurd. Yeah, absolutely,

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem. And then well I I say that, yeah,

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>because we find so many of them, some of them

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 1>we just it becomes an avalanche. Well, and the thing

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>to also remember is that this this was created on

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a sound stage basically, like all of the flowers were

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:36.919
<v Speaker 1>actually arranged, all everything was actually arranged, and they were

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>actually in the space. It's not like a modern photo

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.120
<v Speaker 1>shoot where things are then photoshopped on top or even

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>altered afterwards. And so you know, when we start talking

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 1>about well it looks like there's only three sticks instead

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>of four, it's a bad camera angle. There's four sticks

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 1>on their calm down next the I one I X

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>he died. Yeah, that's very similar to the backwards recordings. Yeah,

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it's interpretation. I don't really see it. I do, I

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I see it, but it's it's one of those things

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that you're just you're grasping for things. It's very convenient

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that it's the Roman numeral I for the first thing,

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and then spelled out O N E for the second,

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:31.400
<v Speaker 1>with an X followed after it to make eleven. Why

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>can't it be one one ten's But here's the other

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>such a stretch. And here's the really big thing is

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that you may or may not be forgetting that the

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Beatles were British and they date things day month year,

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>not month day year. So if they were going to

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>insert something, why in the world would they do it

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 1>in the American style of eleven nine instead of nine

0:26:56.520 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>eleven daw because we're the only world smarta to figure

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>it out, obviously, you're right. Well, yeah, probably the person

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to photoshop this is an American, right, Yeah, that's the problem. Yeah. Yeah.

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And also that not the difference in fonts between the

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>E and he and the reverse three. Yeah, that's what's

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>going on with that. Um is that is that reverse three?

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that symbol as the remaining live Beetles? Um? Okay,

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>So the Aston Martin thing. To be honest, I don't

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>see any car model in the image. It's really small.

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>But furthermore, the car that crashed that Paul owned that

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 1>night was actually a Mini Cooper, not an Aston Martin,

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>so no wonder he died. Yeah. Um, that does look

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>like there's a bloody glove being worn by the grandmother figure.

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you that, but it also it's not it

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>looks like a glove. It doesn't have to be a

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>driving glove. It just looks like a white glove. And

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>there are such things as in red gloves. Right, Yeah,

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>well it's not it's looks like it's blood stained, like, yeah,

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>it's not just all read. The Japanese stone figure is

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>one that I've seen a lot of and they always

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>look like that, so I don't I don't think that's crazy. Um. Also,

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>he was decapitated, not conked on the head, so like,

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>why didn't it just not have a head? The Shiva

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>doll she is, yes, okay, the Shiva doll is pointing

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>at Paul and Paul fair again, she's also pointing in

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>everybody else. No, she even got six arms. She's pointing

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>six different directions. It's two down and or it's four

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 1>down and two up. The only two up are pointing

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>at Paul and and fall. However, Shiva's all often depicted

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>like that, so like, and it's a it's one of

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>those like Coopie dolls kind of, so the arms only

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>go in so many directions, got it, Yeah, and that

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you know it's Paul was Paul probably thought of himself

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>as you know, kind of being in charge of the

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. So he probably insisted on, you know, being

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the center of attention a little. Maybe it's possible voice,

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>yeah it was. He's still alive. It doesn't matter. M

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>The television, the television set being off doesn't bother me

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>at all, because like, why would the television set be

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>on for for this? Have you ever tried to photograph

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>a television? It's done. Also then also you need a

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>power chord, you know, maybe somebody forgot the power chords.

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. And then the patch that's on paul

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>sleeve you can see in a lot of other places

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and also in these other photos that I saw, it's

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>actually an Ontario Provincial Police badge, which you can see

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>in other photo shoots and you can look up pictures

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>of and it looks the same. So calm down. So

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it is that calm down? Well, why did they go

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>with Ontario Provincial Police? I don't know it was colorful

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>because it says oh it doesn't it says O P

0:29:53.600 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>P O. Wow. I never expect to. Uh. Next up,

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about the rest of this cover

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>because it's like one of the biggest clues. But we're

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of so Sergeant Pepper's only Heart Club Band album

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>was kind of a new thing. They included a sleeve

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that included um lyrics and things like that in in

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the album, and that wasn't a thing that they were

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>really doing before then, No I became kind of the

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>standard operating. Yeah, they kind of set the standards. So

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>on the sleeve there are a lot of clues to

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys, ready to talk about those please okay? UM.

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.479
<v Speaker 1>So on the picture, um, behind all of the lyrics

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and track listings, Paul has his back turned to the

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>camera about the other three are facing front. And by

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the way, it's more of a close up of the band.

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Only the background, the painted background and all the flowers

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and stuff isn't there. It's not there anymore. Yeah, it's

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>just the band members. And then he has black buttons

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>on the back of his coat, which um apparently represent

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the morning of the other Beatles. There's three of them,

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>three of the Beatles and also three of the buttons.

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>If that wasn't clear, all of them except for Ringo

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>so um, John, Paul, and George were all about the

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>same height, at least they were when they first started recording.

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And let's just go ahead and start that off by

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>saying they start recording when they were in there, like

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>early twenties, and men typically grow until they're and they're

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>like mid to late twenties. They keep growing for a

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>while after that. And they started earlier than they started

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>in their teams. And we'll talk about some dates a

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>little bit, um. But so apparently it's very mysterious that

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>suddenly Paul is taller than the other two, like he's

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>ascending the heaven. Next to Paul's head are the words

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>without you, Um, from the song title within You without You,

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>which is like my favorite Beatles song. Also Um, George

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.959
<v Speaker 1>appears to be pointing at the words Wednesday morning at

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>five o'clock as the day begins, which is, you know,

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>when Paul died in his car accident. The title song

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>sergeant Um, it's very hot in here. Uh. That song

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>introduces um one Billy Shears, who tells the audience in um,

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>with a little help from my friends, quote, lend me

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>your ears and I'll sing you a song and I'll

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>try not to sing out of key. Paul's replacement, William

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>campbell Um, was often called Billy Shears, and apparently, you know,

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>he was still working on perfecting his singing voice to

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 1>sound like Paul, so um, you know, he kind of

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>is still adjusting to that, apparently because the Beatles didn't

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>put out an album for three years. Yeah, according to this, Okay,

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>that isn't really that gap was there. I'm not up

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in my no, there's not. Actually, there's not actually a

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>three year gap. I think I didn't think so. In

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the story that we told earlier about Paul picking up

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the woman, apparently her name was Rita, right well, and

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a song called Lovely Rita. It has a lyric

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that says I took her home and nearly made it.

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's, you know, a song I made it. Yeah,

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>And then towards the end of Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Club Band Reprised, you can hear a voice shouting Paul

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>is dead. Yeah, really really dead. All right, let's back

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>up and talk about some of these if we have to,

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>we dor Okay, So, yeah, Paul Paula's back turn in

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>in that picture, like I don't know why, but yeah,

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>was the significance of him having black buttons on his jacket. Okay,

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Can I just stand on the soapbox for a second.

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>You always do I do It never ceases to amaze

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>me at all of these crazy little references that people

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>find in things. You know, Oh well, in this culture,

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a walrus means that to Vikings, and it's like, oh, well,

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>so you're saying that instead of focusing on making music

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and chasing women and drinking and having a good time,

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the Beatles were sitting in a library going through tons

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and tons of cultural information to try and find references

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that they could plant it everything, Like right, They're so

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>random and out there. Yeah. Yeah, I think that they

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>really had better things to do with their time. But

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I also think that probably what happened is on that

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 1>particular day, Paul probably just had a really huge zip

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and so that's why he turned around developed in the

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 1>photo shoot. Yeah it did. He was just stressed out

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>or he I mean, there's just a million reasons he

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>could have had a back turned. So, like, I guess

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the subtitle for this episode should be calmed down. UM

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>As to his height difference, it does appear that M.

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Paul probably did hit a growth spurt, and I have

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>some height measurements, um. But regardless, we'll talk about the

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>height thing a little bit later. I saw you, and

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it, um, but the body of that

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>human is taller than the body of the other humans.

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>But calm down, like men grow. It's fine. As to

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 1>George pointing at Wednesday morning at five o'clock the day begins,

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>he was actually making an L, because if you look

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.919
<v Speaker 1>at the hands of the Beatles in that image, they're

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>actually low key's spelling love. He's got his hands in

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>an L, and then another one has it in an O,

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and then one of them has his hands tucked into

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>his pants to make a V, and then the E

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 1>is Yeah, they're spelling love. It's okay. He's not pointing

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>at anything. Also, it's not like they took the picture

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 1>with the lyrics like in front of them, and I'm

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure that they weren't in the studio saying, oh,

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm going a point here, and you

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>should arrange that so that it perfectly matches up with

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the time that Paul died. I don't know, well, I

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, I don't know if either of you

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 1>have had to set type. I've had I've done it digitally,

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>but do yeah, I mean back in the day when

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you had to do it manually, that would have been

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>just insanity to say these three words must line up here.

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Um As to the whole idea of Billy Shears, it

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>is a little weird that they made a song that

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:42.239
<v Speaker 1>included a Paul look alike name in it. But I

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>also wasn't at all able to find the origin of

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>William Campbell being called Billy Shears. So for all I

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>know that nickname has been given to him post fact,

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that would not be surprising. It wouldn't be surprising to

0:36:55.480 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>me either, love Like, just why, I don't know that

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>that really says anything at all. I don't think it does.

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 1>That's not even a clue. And then as far as

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the Paul is dead, yeah, really really dead part, I

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know what that person is saying in the background.

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>And this is again one of those instances where I

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>read it and then I listened to it and it

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>sounded like it to me, But nobody's ever provided me

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>with what was meant to be said there. Um. And

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>also I think I could, you know, I could make

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it into anything. I could make it into a bunch

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>of different things. It's just kind of in the background,

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>really muffled. So I think that's silly. Yeah. Subtitle of

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>this episode that's silly. No, it's calmed down. That calmed down,

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>that's silly. Yeah, you're right next up the Abbey Road

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>coveritive clue. Yeah, there's lots of definitive clues here. Umfit definitively,

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>we're going to do the same thing we just did,

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>so buckle in. As you look at the four beatles,

0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>you will see that Paul is the only one out

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>of step. So that draws attention to Paul. Again. If

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen this, go look it up. But you've

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>seen it. It's the one of the Beatles crossing a

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>road with But if you can't remember it, go look

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it up because we're gonna reference it. Also, Paul happens

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>to be barefoot in this picture. The Beatles are shown

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in a really specific order. Um. John is dressed first

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>in white like a priest would be be that, but

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>would Ringo was dressed like an undertaker and all black.

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Paul is um quote shabby suited unquote um, and he

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>resembles a corpse and obviously his feet are bare. And

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>then um, George is in old jeans and he's a

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>grave digger. Paul actually looks like a zombie in that photo. Yeah,

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>he does. UM, if you take a closer look at Paul.

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>If you take a closer look at Paul, you'll see

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that he's holding a cigarette also known as a off

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.959
<v Speaker 1>and nail in his right hand. And anybody who's any

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:05.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of fan of the Beatles would know that Paul

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>was actually left handed. So why does he have a

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>cigarette in his right hand? UM? You know, actually people

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>proof proof UM. Behind George Harrison, there's a white Volkswagen

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>which looks like an innocent car until you look at

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>the license plate, which is UM like something on the

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>top half, and then on the bottom half it's twenty

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 1>eight if, which obviously means that you know, Paul would

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>be twenty eight if he were alive. And then there's

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>UM a policeman and UM and a police car on

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 1>the other side, which symbolizes the police who were called

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to the scene of the crime of UM Paul's accident

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixty six But we're paid off to

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>hush up the whole affair. Let's go back a First

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>of all, I'm just gonna go ahead and say this

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>right now. The Beatles had literally ten minutes to get

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a shot for this album cover, literally ten minutes. It

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>was super impromptu. Yeah, the these were holding up traffic. Um.

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>They were really anxious to wrap up production on Abbey Road,

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>and so they said, you know what, let's just go

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>outside and take some pictures. That's what they did. They

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't plan anything. There was a photographer there, he took

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 1>some pictures, they went back in. They picked the best one.

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>That's what they were with. So the idea that they

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>had time to plan all the symbolism like as it

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>is silly next, um, Paul being out of step. It

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>turns out that almost every single one of the takes

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.479
<v Speaker 1>they were only like five, everyone was out of step,

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>like really out of step. This was the only one

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 1>where everyone was stepping at the same time. And the

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>fact that Paul was on the wrong foot, it seemed

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty trivial. I gotta tell you that I never noticed

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>that he was on the wrong foot. Yeah. He also

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>he's the one who picked the picture, so I maybe,

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe that's a sign. Maybe fall is

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 1>in on it. Yeah, maybe he also had Yeah he

0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>was barefoot. He had started out wearing sandals, but they

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>were uncomfortable or getting in his way, so he just

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>took him off. Yeah, I saw him on David Letterman.

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>He was talking about this and he said he was

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>wearing flip flops because it was a hot day and

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.879
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, he just said to kick him off. Yeah,

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 1>so he's not wearing any shoes. In terms of the clothing, um,

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>all of them were wearing suits, except for Harrison, who

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>is wearing okay, find maybe like shabby old jeans. I

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>don't really know what his deal is, but um, the

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>other three were wearing suits that were specifically designed for

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>them by a designer by the name of Tommy Nutter,

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>who I know sounds crazy but is actually a really

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>prominent suit designer in um from Britain, not anymore. I

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>don't remember if he's alive or not. But so this

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>whole idea that Paul is in a shabby suit, that's silly.

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a designer suit designs specifically for him. Is Tommy Nutter,

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the one who invented the cookie, the Nutter butter. Oh

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>my god. Um, so Harrison was wearing Yeah, he was

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 1>wearing jeans, but it wasn't even I mean, they're not

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>old they was. He was wearing nice stuff. They're all

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>wearing nice stuff. You're reading into it. Calm down, The

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>next fact, which is really fun for me, is the

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>bit about the cigarette. So at one point they're all

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:18.359
<v Speaker 1>smoking obviously, right, the Beatles smoked a lot, everybody did.

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>But the really interesting part about this, I guess to

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>me at least, is that the working title for abbey

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Road was actually Everest because the sound designer that they

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 1>worked with um smoked their engineer. They're sorry, their engineer,

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Their sound engineer, theater old habits too hard. Their sound

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>engineer's favorite brand of cigarettes was called Everest and he

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 1>was always smoking them. So they're working title was Everest.

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 1>They initially planned to continue to have that be the

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 1>title and hire a private jet and go take pictures

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>of Everest, and that was what the album was going

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to be, but they were running out of time and

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>so Paul said, you know what, screw it, Um, we're

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>all tired of this. Let's just go take a picture

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 1>outside in ten minutes as discussed, and then, UM, we'll

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>just named after abbey Road and that's fine, And everyone said, okay,

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure they wanted to continue to pay homage

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to that, at least the idea of calling it Everest

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>in you know, respect to the sound engineer so they

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>had a cigarette. And then okay, yeah, Paul was left handed,

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>but like, if he had a cigarette in his left hand,

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 1>no one would be able to see it. You know

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>what the great thing about cigarettes is you could smoke

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>him with either hands hands. There is no such thing

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>as a left hand only cigarette. But also, if you

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>are trying to get it in the shot, you're gonna

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you're being shot from the right side. You're going to

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.359
<v Speaker 1>have it on the right side. I will also say

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that smokers typically don't even realize that they have a

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.839
<v Speaker 1>cigarette in their hand and that it's going to be included. Yeah.

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I've seen so many photos of people who years they like,

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, a cigarette, no idea, how to cigarette?

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>So those are the two options, right, Either he just

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 1>forgot about it or it was intentional, but it was

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>an homage to the fact that they were going to

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>call it Everest and then that kind of fell through.

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.720
<v Speaker 1>And plus you know, I mean also, you know, probably

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of smokers actually use their less dominant hand

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>to hold the cigarettecause they're doing something else, Yeah, like

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>holding a drink. Yeah, you know. So yeah, in regards

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>to the bug that had yeah, like I said, that

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>was only half of the license plate. And also it

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>actually just belonged to the people who lived in the

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>flat next to the recording studio, so it just was

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>there all the time. In fact, they had a big

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:33.879
<v Speaker 1>problem with theft after Abbey Road was released. People would

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>come and steal the license plate a lot, and then

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>finally somebody stole the car itself, like the entire car,

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's now I think it's in a museum in

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Germany or something like that. They took it to Germany. Yeah, no,

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>it's actually in a museum. It's like a famous artifact now.

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.239
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't intentional. And then to the police, like

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>there were police, they're holding up traffic, that's what they

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>were doing. You can see them holding up graphic Calm down.

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, that's the word of the day. Are people

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 1>needing calming down? I mean, I know that this was

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a big thing back in the you know, late sixties,

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>early seventies. But here's the big problem actually is that

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Ringo Star recently didn't interview where he mentioned something about

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Paul being dead, like in two thus fifteen mentioned something

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>about Paul being dead, and it started it up again.

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>And I started up again also because it was Ringo

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Star saying something about Paul being dead, so people thought

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that was pretty good authority. I didn't actually watch any

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:34.320
<v Speaker 1>of those interviews, I'll be honest with you, because I

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>just don't think that's But there there are so many

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 1>people who have been so attached to I mean, you

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 1>remember Jeff On in the Facebook group. That guy was

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 1>lobbying for this story all the time. We did it substantly. Yes,

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've satisfied it for Jeff, but but he

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>was one of many where it was like you would

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about something and it would be oh, but then

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>the Polish dead thing, and then you would talk about

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.359
<v Speaker 1>catfood with the Paul dead thing, and then you talk

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>about the Chinese you had the night before. Don't let

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.400
<v Speaker 1>me go. So yeah, Jeff, Jeff, hey, this is this

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>one is for you. But also calm down. It's a

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>fun story. It's been around forever. Well, there's actually a

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>bit more here, unfortunately, So yeah, we're not done. Well,

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>we are done with Abbey Road scene. I'm done. Your

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>book is out, so I don't like you. So there's

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 1>actually a bit um of an ad on theory here

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 1>um and that is that actually um m I five

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>had something to do with the of the selection of

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 1>of the replacement of Paul, the replacement of Paul with Fall. Um,

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>they helped select this person and we'll talk about who

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it might be in just like one second. Um. But

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the whole reason for that is because Paul or fall whichever,

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>just pretty quickly after being replaced, gave an interview in

0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>which he admitted to having used LSD, which encouraged a

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of young people to experiment with LSD, which was

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>actually an m I five plot to be able to

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>better control people in the late sixties early seventies because

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 1>they were on LSD and hallucinogenic drugs and they were

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>easier to manipulate and control. So um. So M I

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>five actually placed Fall there and had him admit that

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:26.319
<v Speaker 1>as Paul, And that's what happened there. We hadn't paid

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>for these mikes and they weren't stuck in this mounty

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>thing on in front of me. I would drop it

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:34.919
<v Speaker 1>on the ground, right now, you would, Yeah, I don't.

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's who put this theory out there. Yeah, yeah,

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>M five and m I six are always kind of

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a logger. Yeah, Well, but you know who actually put

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>it out there was m I seventeen because they're the

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 1>deviouses they're on. Yeah. Yeah, well, I gotta tell you,

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that people being high on LSD or

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>coming down from LST or any easier to control. But hey,

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:06.799
<v Speaker 1>that's just me. So who who replaced Paul? I mean,

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 1>assuming clues are mysteries, who is fault? I guess kind of.

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't really know what this mystery is.

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Um it's you know, is Paul dead? Well? Probably not.

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>But if he is, who, um? Yeah, according to fall

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>he's not. You mean, um, so he could have been replaced,

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned before, um by one Mr William Campbell,

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 1>who was actually called Billy Shears. His name was William

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Shears Campbell. He did win a Paul look like contest,

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>although I've never been able to find any pictures. Didn't.

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't either, and I haven't been able to find

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.800
<v Speaker 1>any pictures. One would assume that if somebody want to

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 1>look like contests, there would be pictures of that person everywhere,

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 1>but not so I guess almost that's a little suspicious, right,

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>So if she disappeared, WHOA what does that mean? Well,

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 1>he did apparently disappear, but again, no official reports or

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. So maybe he didn't so much disappear

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>just or just never exist. And so again I don't

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.239
<v Speaker 1>know if he could sing or not. Um, it's a

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 1>good question. And then the other person he could have

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>been is um this guy named Billie Shepherd. I'm not

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>sure why it's always Billy, but it's always Billy. Billy

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Shepherd didn't really look a whole lot like Paul, but

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.320
<v Speaker 1>he was the ex leader of Billy Pepper and the

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 1>pepper Pots, which was a band, uh in kind of

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.320
<v Speaker 1>contemporary band of the Beatles, and they sounded quite a

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>bit like the Beatles. Actually, he sounded quite a bit

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>like Paul Um at least in the early days of

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the Beatles, the kind of poppy, you know, she loves

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>me kind of stuff. Yeah, but I don't think I

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 1>from all the pictures I saw, he didn't really look

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>like Paul, so he would have had to undergone pretty

0:49:56.480 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 1>extensive plastic surgery. And whoever it was obviously just hated

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:07.400
<v Speaker 1>John because they began to fight just incessantly. Yeah, or

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.359
<v Speaker 1>he just wanted to, you know, go solo. I wanted

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to just live his life as Paul and that was it. Yeah,

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I kind of think that it would have made more

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 1>sense to forgo the plastic surgery and just say, hey,

0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:21.720
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately Paul I got killed, but we have this awesome

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:25.760
<v Speaker 1>replacement is super talented, and that would be the simplest answer.

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 1>But according to our conspiracy friends, that is not the

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 1>word the way the world operates, because young girls would

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:36.959
<v Speaker 1>be throwing themselves off of bridges and buildings everywhere. Yeah,

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and I actually have I have some pictures in this

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:43.400
<v Speaker 1>script that unfortunately our UM listeners can't see. But the

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:47.439
<v Speaker 1>pictures are. The pictures are kind of where I start

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>to lose my skepticism a little bit just looking at them.

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:52.800
<v Speaker 1>And you guys, I really encourage you all post some

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.719
<v Speaker 1>links to some stuff that encourages that that has some

0:50:56.360 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 1>UM side by side comparisons. I um, I see what

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>people see. I totally see what people see. I don't

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, old Paul looks like new Paul

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 1>really that much at all. Does he look like that

0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to you for the most part? Does? I'm sorry one

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 1>of you said no, there are difference. Isn't anyone said no,

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 1>he looks like him? So look at these two guys,

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 1>they're like similar. Those are the ones that look the

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:26.320
<v Speaker 1>most similar, but there's like a lot of differences in

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 1>those um and then particularly the ones on these two pages,

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Like the chin is totally different, and that's not like

0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 1>a weight loss thing. It's a totally different chin shape.

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that. You don't. I don't. Okay, you're

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna do your photo analysis thing that you do. Well, No,

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to analyze any photos other than look

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>at him and go, Okay, that photo was taken in

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:53.800
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty three and the other photo was taken in

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven or sixty eight. Okay, ballpark, ballpark ranges here.

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:02.320
<v Speaker 1>But there's a couple of things. The guys are aging,

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 1>they're losing their baby fat. That's going to have an

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:10.400
<v Speaker 1>impact on it's a heroin addict, also in a methodict.

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it wasn't, but but they can. They probably all

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>got a little bit of plastic surgery here and there

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to fix some things they didn't like make in the

0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>sixties that was so prevalent, though I don't think so.

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, at the at the level

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of fame that they had, I'm not going to say

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:31.919
<v Speaker 1>that they couldn't have done it, but there's some things

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that really make me think that it is just simply aging.

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 1>And one of them is the insane schedule that the

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Beatles held between So you guys have read the history

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 1>of the Beatles and and there's this point where they

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 1>spent a bunch of time in Hamburg, and they were

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:52.360
<v Speaker 1>there over the course of like three or four years.

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>This is before the US invasion. They did twelve hundred

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 1>live events in three years or three and a half years.

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:07.279
<v Speaker 1>That's a freaking insane schedule. They worked hard. I have

0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a popular and I have a feeling that a lot

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 1>of these early photos that we see have two things

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:17.319
<v Speaker 1>going on. One is they're probably wearing makeup is going

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to hide the wrinkles, and two, they've probably been airbrushed

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't around, so you had to airbrush photos

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.920
<v Speaker 1>so that the wrinkles went away. So that's a huge

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>thing to me, is that they had worked so hard

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:37.080
<v Speaker 1>for so long, they're gonna burn out. They're gonna be

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:41.080
<v Speaker 1>drinking and partying and chasing skirts and just having fun. Well,

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna burn off that fat. They're They're not gonna

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 1>be a twenty two year old kid anymore. They're gonna

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:48.399
<v Speaker 1>be a twenty six year old guy, and you see

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 1>that with a lot of men where it's like he

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:53.800
<v Speaker 1>was so baby faced and then suddenly he has a

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.839
<v Speaker 1>chin and a jawline and it's weird and how did

0:53:56.920 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that happen? Like that happens all the time. Yeah, yeah, total, yeah. Yeah.

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:06.359
<v Speaker 1>The height thing, so let's I'll just say that. Um.

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>In uh, nineteen sixty three, there was a biography that

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 1>was published of Paul and it said that he was

0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 1>five eleven, and then in nineteen sixty seven he reported

0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 1>that he was six to um, which is it was

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:24.279
<v Speaker 1>just strange because Paul never looked that tall to me. Yeah,

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:26.840
<v Speaker 1>he didn't look that tall to me either. But I also,

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean they started wearing lifts like he was wearing shoes.

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:37.000
<v Speaker 1>But also, dudes grow. Paul was always the tallest of

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 1>them if you look. So I laughed at this because

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:41.959
<v Speaker 1>there was some articles that I came across from people

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>like well, I found this live performance where they were

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 1>moving around and I was trying to use that to

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:48.600
<v Speaker 1>judge the height of one or the other. Okay, you

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't need to do that. They had all kinds of

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:54.279
<v Speaker 1>skills and they're like my My favorite one is they

0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:57.240
<v Speaker 1>came off the plane when they first hit the States,

0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 1>which means that they were they weren't wearing fancy, fancy

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.359
<v Speaker 1>shoes and stuff, because if we're on a plane all day.

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, who's the tallest, Paul, So he didn't

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:10.720
<v Speaker 1>suddenly get taller than the other guys. He was always

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:13.120
<v Speaker 1>a little taller than the other Well, and the pictures

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:15.839
<v Speaker 1>that I always see are of them, you know, wearing

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same thing. So people say, oh, but they

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:22.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't wear exactly the same thing, you know, much longer

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>than after they got popular. So it's always kind of stuff.

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:31.719
<v Speaker 1>It's really grainy, crappy pictures, and it's like, oh, yeah,

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:33.440
<v Speaker 1>see that one, that one's Paul. And it's like, I

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know, they all have the exact same haircut, they

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:37.359
<v Speaker 1>all have dark, dark hair, they're all wearing the same thing.

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 1>That could be Paul, that could be Ringo, that could

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.440
<v Speaker 1>be anyone. I don't know who that is. So you

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:44.880
<v Speaker 1>can't just say, oh, look that's that one because they

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 1>all look exactly the same. The photo is so grainy,

0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 1>e they're wearing the same thing. And then a lot

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:51.280
<v Speaker 1>of it is taken from like their Ed Sullivan appearance,

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:55.320
<v Speaker 1>which is video tape. It's it's it's that tape. It's film,

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 1>which is not that greater equality film, and it has

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 1>an aged well. The other thing from that Teleivan film

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that people talk about is the changes in Paul's performance demeanor,

0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:09.759
<v Speaker 1>which is always so interesting to me because it's like, dude, yeah,

0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 1>they were like brand new to the stage. They had

0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 1>never really performed on that scale before, and I'm sure

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:20.800
<v Speaker 1>he was nervous. And then as they performs for The

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Sullivan Show, the sensors would walk up and say, don't

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:25.759
<v Speaker 1>do this. I mean, there's famous stories about what they told.

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen there's that gag video out there.

0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's an S and L thing about Elvis

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:35.919
<v Speaker 1>Pressley on The Sullivan Show, and they said, you can't

0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:39.319
<v Speaker 1>shake your hips, it's it's too sexual, and he went

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:41.240
<v Speaker 1>ahead and did it. And there's they put a black

0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 1>bar across his waist, which I did, and then he

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 1>keeps shaking and the bar keeps rising, he keeps trying

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to get taller till there's nothing but Elvis's chin and

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the in his eyes on the screen, and the whole

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:57.400
<v Speaker 1>rest of the screen is black like that but that

0:56:57.520 --> 0:56:59.840
<v Speaker 1>is the extent that the sensors went to. They did

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 1>crazy stuff, and I'm sure that they were afraid to

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:06.359
<v Speaker 1>do anything. Heard that story about the doors, right, there's

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.719
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of them. Yeah, So, I mean I

0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:13.319
<v Speaker 1>agree that it's um, they're not good reasons. You have more.

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I see your book out. Yeah, I know the book

0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't go away. There's still there's let's let's go there.

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's throw on the fire for this, okay. Um, So

0:57:22.880 --> 0:57:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that where there's this whole thing of Paul

0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:29.480
<v Speaker 1>being in an accident, and that's where this whole story.

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 1>But you do know was never in an accident. Yes

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was in a mo Pad accident. Okay,

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 1>he was in a Mopad accident. That's how he chipped

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 1>his tooth and that's how he got the scar on

0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 1>his lip. But I think that is the kernel of

0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Paul was in an accident? What actually had? Right? Okay,

0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 1>So a car that he owned was in a really

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>serious accident, and he was in a Mopad accident probably

0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, within a year or so of each other.

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Who was driving his friends. I don't remember his name.

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:08.720
<v Speaker 1>There's well, there's there's several friends. There was no he crashed,

0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:11.680
<v Speaker 1>he totaled the car. But he was like, fine, well

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that's for the Mini Cooper. Yeah, there is when you

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 1>when you go on the internet, you will see a

0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 1>series of very iconic photos which show I believe it's

0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 1>an Aston Martin, it's a sports car and this thing

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 1>is just ripped up and I see it referenced all

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the time for this story. But that's the Princess Die car.

0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Well but here's the thing, No, this is this is

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 1>total sixties sporty. I started Google image searching, and I

0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 1>love the fact that you can grab an image and

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 1>look for other similars, and very quickly found out that

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 1>there was indeed an accident in the December of nineve

0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 1>which people then spun forward to this possible November sixties

0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:01.920
<v Speaker 1>six thing. And is there is a friend of the band,

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:06.480
<v Speaker 1>a guy whose name was Tara Brown, and he was

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was a big guy, or not a

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 1>big he was a semi famous and he was hanging

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 1>around with the band doing stuff and he was driving

0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 1>his car and he had a woman in the car

0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 1>with him, and he swerved to avoid another car and

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:26.680
<v Speaker 1>he careened through park cars and while it said that

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:30.200
<v Speaker 1>he was going exceptionally fast. It killed him and his head.

0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 1>He took severe damage to his skull and it killed him.

0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't Paul. He looked nothing like Paul. But

0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 1>he was a friend of the Beatles. So this is

0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 1>as with always, it's a game of telephone. A friend

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Beatles was in a car accident in a

0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:47.760
<v Speaker 1>sports car, and then it do do Do Do Do do?

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Paul is dead. So that's why thing is that. I

0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:55.040
<v Speaker 1>because I was confused when I read your stuff about

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:57.360
<v Speaker 1>it being the Mini and I what the hell? Yeah,

0:59:57.400 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess I should have clarified. I'm realizing I didn't

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:03.240
<v Speaker 1>at this point, Um that that story that we told

1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:06.240
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning is the like Steve version of things,

1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:11.080
<v Speaker 1>when we told the most fantastical version of anything. That's

1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 1>what that is, realistic magical mystery tour. Yeah, none of

1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 1>it happened. It didn't happen. Sorry, Yeah, I know it was.

1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Actually I don't. I didn't even know that it grew

1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:23.240
<v Speaker 1>from that, Colonel Truth. I thought somebody just made it up.

1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I really believe that somebody made it up. He did.

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:28.320
<v Speaker 1>It was an amalgam of a lot of things. Yeah,

1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I I think with a lot of these things, it's

1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it's held together with spit and duct tape, and it

1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:37.200
<v Speaker 1>just I don't know how it survives. Just a heck

1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:40.200
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of LSD. Yeah, there's a lot of

1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:42.240
<v Speaker 1>things that No, actually there's not a lot of things

1:00:42.280 --> 1:00:44.760
<v Speaker 1>have been held together by LSD. So you don't know,

1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:47.800
<v Speaker 1>do you have any more stuff that we need to

1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:51.080
<v Speaker 1>just nothing that is that is really good? Good bits

1:00:51.320 --> 1:00:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that the car and the friend were really and that

1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the origin of the scar and the tooth, that it's

1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:02.200
<v Speaker 1>not a different human being he got like people get

1:01:02.320 --> 1:01:06.560
<v Speaker 1>those things. Yeah, there was actually somebody who said, Paul,

1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you need to get your tooth fixed it it looks

1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:12.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of bad. People are going to notice. But apparently

1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, there was no nerves are and he

1:01:13.920 --> 1:01:16.200
<v Speaker 1>just didn't care. You never fixed it. Yeah, I never

1:01:16.280 --> 1:01:19.120
<v Speaker 1>get fixed a little super glup, you know. I mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, even though I don't believe that Paul died,

1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:27.880
<v Speaker 1>there is a similar, more recent thing, which is Avril Levine. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot, there's actually a lot of this stuff

1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:32.720
<v Speaker 1>out there, and it's not it's well, it's not just

1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love the avro Levine thing I do.

1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:38.040
<v Speaker 1>There's also like the Beyonce was never pregnant thing. There's

1:01:38.120 --> 1:01:40.320
<v Speaker 1>like there's so many of these things out there that

1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:46.520
<v Speaker 1>people are just like crazy, we'll be talking about Levin. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say the moral of the story is just

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<v Speaker 1>like calm down, Yeah, like take a step back and

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<v Speaker 1>think about what you're saying. Well, the thing about it

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<v Speaker 1>is is that if Paul truly is dead, well they

1:01:57.880 --> 1:02:01.280
<v Speaker 1>found a really good replacement and who cares. Yeah, it's

1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:04.800
<v Speaker 1>amazing that they managed to find a replacement that looked

1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:11.439
<v Speaker 1>like sound like that could play the same instrument, could write. Yeah,

1:02:11.680 --> 1:02:16.040
<v Speaker 1>like the coincidence for that, the alignment of the stars,

1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and really realistically, to Joe's point, I mean Fall, if

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<v Speaker 1>it is, Fall has been Paul for longer than Paul

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<v Speaker 1>ever really was, and at this point he is Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just that's so, what you're telling me is that

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<v Speaker 1>the British monarchy united an impersonator. Yeah, why not. It

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be the first time, and that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Fall probably deserved it, you know, because he made many

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<v Speaker 1>contributions to the band, apparently at least after he was

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<v Speaker 1>swapped in for Paul. Yeah, yeah, so I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>deserves his knighthood. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>a link to that on the website. Um, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do a recurring donation, that's awesome. That's our favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that's going to be on Patreon. That's patreon dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>slash thinking sideways and thanks to everybody who donates, and

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to considering donating. And I think that's everything. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess we're gonna, you know, just get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. Okay, So I'm going to join a Beatles

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<v Speaker 1>tribute band, and I'm gonna be bulled. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>had to like start a Beatles tribute band. All we need,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually we don't. We can do it three because Paul's dead, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not Ringo. I'm not Ringo. I'll be Ringo. I'm George. Alright, Ringo.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get out of here, right bye, guys. I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, I love you yeah yeah yeah. I love

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<v Speaker 1>luck that. You know, you should be glad