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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Thinking Sideways the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am Devin joined you know most weeks by and Steve. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This week we're going to talk about a mystery which

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Speaker 1: I guess probably will surprise most of you. It's really

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Speaker 1: scary mystery because it involved a dead body. It does

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe not talked. Will you ask? Yeah, it really does. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The mystery, I guess we're just going to call it,

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Speaker 1: um Paul is dead and yes, this is a Beatles mystery.

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Speaker 1: I wish we had a sound effective like girls screaming Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Beatles is who we're talking about. You know, there there

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Speaker 1: reading this quote of like, um, it was something like

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Speaker 1: George Harrison was the heart of the Beatles, John Lennon

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Speaker 1: Paul McCartney was the voice of the Beatles, and Ringo

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Speaker 1: this theory, this mystery that Paul McCartney actually died and

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Speaker 1: am on Wednesday, November nine, nineteen sixty six. Paul had

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Speaker 1: that's the problem. And then well I I say that, yeah,

426
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: because we find so many of them, some of them

427
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: we just it becomes an avalanche. Well, and the thing

428
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: to also remember is that this this was created on

429
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: a sound stage basically, like all of the flowers were

430
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: actually arranged, all everything was actually arranged, and they were

431
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: actually in the space. It's not like a modern photo

432
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: shoot where things are then photoshopped on top or even

433
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: altered afterwards. And so you know, when we start talking

434
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: about well it looks like there's only three sticks instead

435
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: of four, it's a bad camera angle. There's four sticks

436
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: on their calm down next the I one I X

437
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: he died. Yeah, that's very similar to the backwards recordings. Yeah,

438
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: it's interpretation. I don't really see it. I do, I

439
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: I see it, but it's it's one of those things

440
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: that you're just you're grasping for things. It's very convenient

441
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: that it's the Roman numeral I for the first thing,

442
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: and then spelled out O N E for the second,

443
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: with an X followed after it to make eleven. Why

444
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: can't it be one one ten's But here's the other

445
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: such a stretch. And here's the really big thing is

446
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: that you may or may not be forgetting that the

447
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: Beatles were British and they date things day month year,

448
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: not month day year. So if they were going to

449
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: insert something, why in the world would they do it

450
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: in the American style of eleven nine instead of nine

451
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: eleven daw because we're the only world smarta to figure

452
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: it out, obviously, you're right. Well, yeah, probably the person

453
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: to photoshop this is an American, right, Yeah, that's the problem. Yeah. Yeah.

454
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: And also that not the difference in fonts between the

455
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: E and he and the reverse three. Yeah, that's what's

456
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: going on with that. Um is that is that reverse three?

457
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: Is that symbol as the remaining live Beetles? Um? Okay,

458
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: So the Aston Martin thing. To be honest, I don't

459
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: see any car model in the image. It's really small.

460
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: But furthermore, the car that crashed that Paul owned that

461
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: night was actually a Mini Cooper, not an Aston Martin,

462
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: so no wonder he died. Yeah. Um, that does look

463
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: like there's a bloody glove being worn by the grandmother figure.

464
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: I'll give you that, but it also it's not it

465
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: looks like a glove. It doesn't have to be a

466
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: driving glove. It just looks like a white glove. And

467
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: there are such things as in red gloves. Right, Yeah,

468
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: well it's not it's looks like it's blood stained, like, yeah,

469
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: it's not just all read. The Japanese stone figure is

470
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: one that I've seen a lot of and they always

471
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: look like that, so I don't I don't think that's crazy. Um. Also,

472
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: he was decapitated, not conked on the head, so like,

473
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: why didn't it just not have a head? The Shiva

474
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: doll she is, yes, okay, the Shiva doll is pointing

475
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: at Paul and Paul fair again, she's also pointing in

476
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: everybody else. No, she even got six arms. She's pointing

477
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: six different directions. It's two down and or it's four

478
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: down and two up. The only two up are pointing

479
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: at Paul and and fall. However, Shiva's all often depicted

480
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: like that, so like, and it's a it's one of

481
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: those like Coopie dolls kind of, so the arms only

482
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: go in so many directions, got it, Yeah, and that

483
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: you know it's Paul was Paul probably thought of himself

484
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: as you know, kind of being in charge of the

485
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: whole thing. So he probably insisted on, you know, being

486
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: the center of attention a little. Maybe it's possible voice,

487
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: yeah it was. He's still alive. It doesn't matter. M

488
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: The television, the television set being off doesn't bother me

489
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: at all, because like, why would the television set be

490
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: on for for this? Have you ever tried to photograph

491
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: a television? It's done. Also then also you need a

492
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: power chord, you know, maybe somebody forgot the power chords.

493
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And then the patch that's on paul

494
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: sleeve you can see in a lot of other places

495
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: and also in these other photos that I saw, it's

496
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: actually an Ontario Provincial Police badge, which you can see

497
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: in other photo shoots and you can look up pictures

498
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: of and it looks the same. So calm down. So

499
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: it is that calm down? Well, why did they go

500
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: with Ontario Provincial Police? I don't know it was colorful

501
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: because it says oh it doesn't it says O P

502
00:29:53,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: P O. Wow. I never expect to. Uh. Next up,

503
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the rest of this cover

504
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: because it's like one of the biggest clues. But we're

505
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: kind of so Sergeant Pepper's only Heart Club Band album

506
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: was kind of a new thing. They included a sleeve

507
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: that included um lyrics and things like that in in

508
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: the album, and that wasn't a thing that they were

509
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: really doing before then, No I became kind of the

510
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: standard operating. Yeah, they kind of set the standards. So

511
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: on the sleeve there are a lot of clues to

512
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: you guys, ready to talk about those please okay? UM.

513
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 1: So on the picture, um, behind all of the lyrics

514
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: and track listings, Paul has his back turned to the

515
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: camera about the other three are facing front. And by

516
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: the way, it's more of a close up of the band.

517
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: Only the background, the painted background and all the flowers

518
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: and stuff isn't there. It's not there anymore. Yeah, it's

519
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: just the band members. And then he has black buttons

520
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: on the back of his coat, which um apparently represent

521
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: the morning of the other Beatles. There's three of them,

522
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: three of the Beatles and also three of the buttons.

523
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: If that wasn't clear, all of them except for Ringo

524
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: so um, John, Paul, and George were all about the

525
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: same height, at least they were when they first started recording.

526
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: And let's just go ahead and start that off by

527
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: saying they start recording when they were in there, like

528
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: early twenties, and men typically grow until they're and they're

529
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: like mid to late twenties. They keep growing for a

530
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: while after that. And they started earlier than they started

531
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: in their teams. And we'll talk about some dates a

532
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: little bit, um. But so apparently it's very mysterious that

533
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: suddenly Paul is taller than the other two, like he's

534
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: ascending the heaven. Next to Paul's head are the words

535
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: without you, Um, from the song title within You without You,

536
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: which is like my favorite Beatles song. Also Um, George

537
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 1: appears to be pointing at the words Wednesday morning at

538
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: five o'clock as the day begins, which is, you know,

539
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: when Paul died in his car accident. The title song

540
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: sergeant Um, it's very hot in here. Uh. That song

541
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: introduces um one Billy Shears, who tells the audience in um,

542
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: with a little help from my friends, quote, lend me

543
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: your ears and I'll sing you a song and I'll

544
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: try not to sing out of key. Paul's replacement, William

545
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: campbell Um, was often called Billy Shears, and apparently, you know,

546
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: he was still working on perfecting his singing voice to

547
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: sound like Paul, so um, you know, he kind of

548
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: is still adjusting to that, apparently because the Beatles didn't

549
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: put out an album for three years. Yeah, according to this, Okay,

550
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: that isn't really that gap was there. I'm not up

551
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: in my no, there's not. Actually, there's not actually a

552
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: three year gap. I think I didn't think so. In

553
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: the story that we told earlier about Paul picking up

554
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: the woman, apparently her name was Rita, right well, and

555
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: there's a song called Lovely Rita. It has a lyric

556
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: that says I took her home and nearly made it.

557
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: So that's, you know, a song I made it. Yeah,

558
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: And then towards the end of Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart

559
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: Club Band Reprised, you can hear a voice shouting Paul

560
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: is dead. Yeah, really really dead. All right, let's back

561
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: up and talk about some of these if we have to,

562
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: we dor Okay, So, yeah, Paul Paula's back turn in

563
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: in that picture, like I don't know why, but yeah,

564
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: was the significance of him having black buttons on his jacket. Okay,

565
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: Can I just stand on the soapbox for a second.

566
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: You always do I do It never ceases to amaze

567
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: me at all of these crazy little references that people

568
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: find in things. You know, Oh well, in this culture,

569
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: a walrus means that to Vikings, and it's like, oh, well,

570
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: so you're saying that instead of focusing on making music

571
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: and chasing women and drinking and having a good time,

572
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: the Beatles were sitting in a library going through tons

573
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: and tons of cultural information to try and find references

574
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: that they could plant it everything, Like right, They're so

575
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: random and out there. Yeah. Yeah, I think that they

576
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: really had better things to do with their time. But

577
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: I also think that probably what happened is on that

578
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: particular day, Paul probably just had a really huge zip

579
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: and so that's why he turned around developed in the

580
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: photo shoot. Yeah it did. He was just stressed out

581
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: or he I mean, there's just a million reasons he

582
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: could have had a back turned. So, like, I guess

583
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: the subtitle for this episode should be calmed down. UM

584
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: As to his height difference, it does appear that M.

585
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: Paul probably did hit a growth spurt, and I have

586
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: some height measurements, um. But regardless, we'll talk about the

587
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: height thing a little bit later. I saw you, and

588
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't like it, um, but the body of that

589
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: human is taller than the body of the other humans.

590
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: But calm down, like men grow. It's fine. As to

591
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: George pointing at Wednesday morning at five o'clock the day begins,

592
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: he was actually making an L, because if you look

593
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: at the hands of the Beatles in that image, they're

594
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: actually low key's spelling love. He's got his hands in

595
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: an L, and then another one has it in an O,

596
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: and then one of them has his hands tucked into

597
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: his pants to make a V, and then the E

598
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: is Yeah, they're spelling love. It's okay. He's not pointing

599
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: at anything. Also, it's not like they took the picture

600
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: with the lyrics like in front of them, and I'm

601
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: pretty sure that they weren't in the studio saying, oh,

602
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going a point here, and you

603
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: should arrange that so that it perfectly matches up with

604
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: the time that Paul died. I don't know, well, I

605
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I don't know if either of you

606
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: have had to set type. I've had I've done it digitally,

607
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: but do yeah, I mean back in the day when

608
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: you had to do it manually, that would have been

609
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: just insanity to say these three words must line up here.

610
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: Um As to the whole idea of Billy Shears, it

611
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: is a little weird that they made a song that

612
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: included a Paul look alike name in it. But I

613
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: also wasn't at all able to find the origin of

614
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: William Campbell being called Billy Shears. So for all I

615
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: know that nickname has been given to him post fact,

616
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: that would not be surprising. It wouldn't be surprising to

617
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: me either, love Like, just why, I don't know that

618
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: that really says anything at all. I don't think it does.

619
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: That's not even a clue. And then as far as

620
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: the Paul is dead, yeah, really really dead part, I

621
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: don't know what that person is saying in the background.

622
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: And this is again one of those instances where I

623
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: read it and then I listened to it and it

624
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: sounded like it to me, But nobody's ever provided me

625
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: with what was meant to be said there. Um. And

626
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: also I think I could, you know, I could make

627
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: it into anything. I could make it into a bunch

628
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: of different things. It's just kind of in the background,

629
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: really muffled. So I think that's silly. Yeah. Subtitle of

630
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: this episode that's silly. No, it's calmed down. That calmed down,

631
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: that's silly. Yeah, you're right next up the Abbey Road

632
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: coveritive clue. Yeah, there's lots of definitive clues here. Umfit definitively,

633
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: we're going to do the same thing we just did,

634
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: so buckle in. As you look at the four beatles,

635
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: you will see that Paul is the only one out

636
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: of step. So that draws attention to Paul. Again. If

637
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: you haven't seen this, go look it up. But you've

638
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: seen it. It's the one of the Beatles crossing a

639
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: road with But if you can't remember it, go look

640
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: it up because we're gonna reference it. Also, Paul happens

641
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: to be barefoot in this picture. The Beatles are shown

642
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: in a really specific order. Um. John is dressed first

643
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: in white like a priest would be be that, but

644
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: would Ringo was dressed like an undertaker and all black.

645
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: Paul is um quote shabby suited unquote um, and he

646
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: resembles a corpse and obviously his feet are bare. And

647
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: then um, George is in old jeans and he's a

648
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: grave digger. Paul actually looks like a zombie in that photo. Yeah,

649
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: he does. UM, if you take a closer look at Paul.

650
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: If you take a closer look at Paul, you'll see

651
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: that he's holding a cigarette also known as a off

652
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: and nail in his right hand. And anybody who's any

653
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: kind of fan of the Beatles would know that Paul

654
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: was actually left handed. So why does he have a

655
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: cigarette in his right hand? UM? You know, actually people

656
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: proof proof UM. Behind George Harrison, there's a white Volkswagen

657
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: which looks like an innocent car until you look at

658
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: the license plate, which is UM like something on the

659
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: top half, and then on the bottom half it's twenty

660
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: eight if, which obviously means that you know, Paul would

661
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: be twenty eight if he were alive. And then there's

662
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: UM a policeman and UM and a police car on

663
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: the other side, which symbolizes the police who were called

664
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: to the scene of the crime of UM Paul's accident

665
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixty six But we're paid off to

666
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: hush up the whole affair. Let's go back a First

667
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: of all, I'm just gonna go ahead and say this

668
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: right now. The Beatles had literally ten minutes to get

669
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: a shot for this album cover, literally ten minutes. It

670
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: was super impromptu. Yeah, the these were holding up traffic. Um.

671
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: They were really anxious to wrap up production on Abbey Road,

672
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: and so they said, you know what, let's just go

673
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: outside and take some pictures. That's what they did. They

674
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: didn't plan anything. There was a photographer there, he took

675
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: some pictures, they went back in. They picked the best one.

676
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: That's what they were with. So the idea that they

677
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: had time to plan all the symbolism like as it

678
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: is silly next, um, Paul being out of step. It

679
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: turns out that almost every single one of the takes

680
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: they were only like five, everyone was out of step,

681
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: like really out of step. This was the only one

682
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: where everyone was stepping at the same time. And the

683
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: fact that Paul was on the wrong foot, it seemed

684
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: pretty trivial. I gotta tell you that I never noticed

685
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: that he was on the wrong foot. Yeah. He also

686
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: he's the one who picked the picture, so I maybe,

687
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe that's a sign. Maybe fall is

688
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: in on it. Yeah, maybe he also had Yeah he

689
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: was barefoot. He had started out wearing sandals, but they

690
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: were uncomfortable or getting in his way, so he just

691
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: took him off. Yeah, I saw him on David Letterman.

692
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: He was talking about this and he said he was

693
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: wearing flip flops because it was a hot day and

694
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: so yeah, he just said to kick him off. Yeah,

695
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: so he's not wearing any shoes. In terms of the clothing, um,

696
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: all of them were wearing suits, except for Harrison, who

697
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: is wearing okay, find maybe like shabby old jeans. I

698
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: don't really know what his deal is, but um, the

699
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: other three were wearing suits that were specifically designed for

700
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: them by a designer by the name of Tommy Nutter,

701
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: who I know sounds crazy but is actually a really

702
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: prominent suit designer in um from Britain, not anymore. I

703
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: don't remember if he's alive or not. But so this

704
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: whole idea that Paul is in a shabby suit, that's silly.

705
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: It's a designer suit designs specifically for him. Is Tommy Nutter,

706
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: the one who invented the cookie, the Nutter butter. Oh

707
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: my god. Um, so Harrison was wearing Yeah, he was

708
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: wearing jeans, but it wasn't even I mean, they're not

709
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: old they was. He was wearing nice stuff. They're all

710
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: wearing nice stuff. You're reading into it. Calm down, The

711
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: next fact, which is really fun for me, is the

712
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: bit about the cigarette. So at one point they're all

713
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: smoking obviously, right, the Beatles smoked a lot, everybody did.

714
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: But the really interesting part about this, I guess to

715
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: me at least, is that the working title for abbey

716
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: Road was actually Everest because the sound designer that they

717
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: worked with um smoked their engineer. They're sorry, their engineer,

718
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: Their sound engineer, theater old habits too hard. Their sound

719
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: engineer's favorite brand of cigarettes was called Everest and he

720
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: was always smoking them. So they're working title was Everest.

721
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: They initially planned to continue to have that be the

722
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: title and hire a private jet and go take pictures

723
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: of Everest, and that was what the album was going

724
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: to be, but they were running out of time and

725
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: so Paul said, you know what, screw it, Um, we're

726
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: all tired of this. Let's just go take a picture

727
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: outside in ten minutes as discussed, and then, UM, we'll

728
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: just named after abbey Road and that's fine, And everyone said, okay,

729
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: but I'm sure they wanted to continue to pay homage

730
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: to that, at least the idea of calling it Everest

731
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: in you know, respect to the sound engineer so they

732
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: had a cigarette. And then okay, yeah, Paul was left handed,

733
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: but like, if he had a cigarette in his left hand,

734
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: no one would be able to see it. You know

735
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: what the great thing about cigarettes is you could smoke

736
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: him with either hands hands. There is no such thing

737
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: as a left hand only cigarette. But also, if you

738
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: are trying to get it in the shot, you're gonna

739
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: you're being shot from the right side. You're going to

740
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: have it on the right side. I will also say

741
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: that smokers typically don't even realize that they have a

742
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: cigarette in their hand and that it's going to be included. Yeah.

743
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: I've seen so many photos of people who years they like,

744
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: oh my god, a cigarette, no idea, how to cigarette?

745
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: So those are the two options, right, Either he just

746
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: forgot about it or it was intentional, but it was

747
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: an homage to the fact that they were going to

748
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: call it Everest and then that kind of fell through.

749
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: And plus you know, I mean also, you know, probably

750
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: a lot of smokers actually use their less dominant hand

751
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: to hold the cigarettecause they're doing something else, Yeah, like

752
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: holding a drink. Yeah, you know. So yeah, in regards

753
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: to the bug that had yeah, like I said, that

754
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: was only half of the license plate. And also it

755
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: actually just belonged to the people who lived in the

756
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: flat next to the recording studio, so it just was

757
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: there all the time. In fact, they had a big

758
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: problem with theft after Abbey Road was released. People would

759
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: come and steal the license plate a lot, and then

760
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: finally somebody stole the car itself, like the entire car,

761
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: and it's now I think it's in a museum in

762
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: Germany or something like that. They took it to Germany. Yeah, no,

763
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: it's actually in a museum. It's like a famous artifact now.

764
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: But it wasn't intentional. And then to the police, like

765
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: there were police, they're holding up traffic, that's what they

766
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: were doing. You can see them holding up graphic Calm down.

767
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's the word of the day. Are people

768
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: needing calming down? I mean, I know that this was

769
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: a big thing back in the you know, late sixties,

770
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: early seventies. But here's the big problem actually is that

771
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Ringo Star recently didn't interview where he mentioned something about

772
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: Paul being dead, like in two thus fifteen mentioned something

773
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: about Paul being dead, and it started it up again.

774
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: And I started up again also because it was Ringo

775
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: Star saying something about Paul being dead, so people thought

776
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: that was pretty good authority. I didn't actually watch any

777
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: of those interviews, I'll be honest with you, because I

778
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: just don't think that's But there there are so many

779
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: people who have been so attached to I mean, you

780
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: remember Jeff On in the Facebook group. That guy was

781
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: lobbying for this story all the time. We did it substantly. Yes,

782
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, we've satisfied it for Jeff, but but he

783
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: was one of many where it was like you would

784
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: talk about something and it would be oh, but then

785
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: the Polish dead thing, and then you would talk about

786
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: catfood with the Paul dead thing, and then you talk

787
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: about the Chinese you had the night before. Don't let

788
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: me go. So yeah, Jeff, Jeff, hey, this is this

789
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: one is for you. But also calm down. It's a

790
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: fun story. It's been around forever. Well, there's actually a

791
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: bit more here, unfortunately, So yeah, we're not done. Well,

792
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: we are done with Abbey Road scene. I'm done. Your

793
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: book is out, so I don't like you. So there's

794
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: actually a bit um of an ad on theory here

795
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: um and that is that actually um m I five

796
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: had something to do with the of the selection of

797
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: of the replacement of Paul, the replacement of Paul with Fall. Um,

798
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: they helped select this person and we'll talk about who

799
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: it might be in just like one second. Um. But

800
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: the whole reason for that is because Paul or fall whichever,

801
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: just pretty quickly after being replaced, gave an interview in

802
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: which he admitted to having used LSD, which encouraged a

803
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: lot of young people to experiment with LSD, which was

804
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: actually an m I five plot to be able to

805
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: better control people in the late sixties early seventies because

806
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: they were on LSD and hallucinogenic drugs and they were

807
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: easier to manipulate and control. So um. So M I

808
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: five actually placed Fall there and had him admit that

809
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: as Paul, And that's what happened there. We hadn't paid

810
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: for these mikes and they weren't stuck in this mounty

811
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: thing on in front of me. I would drop it

812
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: on the ground, right now, you would, Yeah, I don't.

813
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: I think that's who put this theory out there. Yeah, yeah,

814
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: M five and m I six are always kind of

815
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: a logger. Yeah, Well, but you know who actually put

816
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: it out there was m I seventeen because they're the

817
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: deviouses they're on. Yeah. Yeah, well, I gotta tell you,

818
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that people being high on LSD or

819
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: coming down from LST or any easier to control. But hey,

820
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: that's just me. So who who replaced Paul? I mean,

821
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: assuming clues are mysteries, who is fault? I guess kind of.

822
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really know what this mystery is.

823
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: Um it's you know, is Paul dead? Well? Probably not.

824
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: But if he is, who, um? Yeah, according to fall

825
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: he's not. You mean, um, so he could have been replaced,

826
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: as we mentioned before, um by one Mr William Campbell,

827
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: who was actually called Billy Shears. His name was William

828
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: Shears Campbell. He did win a Paul look like contest,

829
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: although I've never been able to find any pictures. Didn't.

830
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: I didn't either, and I haven't been able to find

831
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: any pictures. One would assume that if somebody want to

832
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: look like contests, there would be pictures of that person everywhere,

833
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: but not so I guess almost that's a little suspicious, right,

834
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: So if she disappeared, WHOA what does that mean? Well,

835
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: he did apparently disappear, but again, no official reports or

836
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: anything like that. So maybe he didn't so much disappear

837
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: just or just never exist. And so again I don't

838
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: know if he could sing or not. Um, it's a

839
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: good question. And then the other person he could have

840
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: been is um this guy named Billie Shepherd. I'm not

841
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: sure why it's always Billy, but it's always Billy. Billy

842
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: Shepherd didn't really look a whole lot like Paul, but

843
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: he was the ex leader of Billy Pepper and the

844
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: pepper Pots, which was a band, uh in kind of

845
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: contemporary band of the Beatles, and they sounded quite a

846
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: bit like the Beatles. Actually, he sounded quite a bit

847
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: like Paul Um at least in the early days of

848
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: the Beatles, the kind of poppy, you know, she loves

849
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: me kind of stuff. Yeah, but I don't think I

850
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: from all the pictures I saw, he didn't really look

851
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: like Paul, so he would have had to undergone pretty

852
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: extensive plastic surgery. And whoever it was obviously just hated

853
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: John because they began to fight just incessantly. Yeah, or

854
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: he just wanted to, you know, go solo. I wanted

855
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: to just live his life as Paul and that was it. Yeah,

856
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: I kind of think that it would have made more

857
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: sense to forgo the plastic surgery and just say, hey,

858
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: unfortunately Paul I got killed, but we have this awesome

859
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: replacement is super talented, and that would be the simplest answer.

860
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: But according to our conspiracy friends, that is not the

861
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: word the way the world operates, because young girls would

862
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 1: be throwing themselves off of bridges and buildings everywhere. Yeah,

863
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: and I actually have I have some pictures in this

864
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: script that unfortunately our UM listeners can't see. But the

865
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: pictures are. The pictures are kind of where I start

866
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: to lose my skepticism a little bit just looking at them.

867
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: And you guys, I really encourage you all post some

868
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: links to some stuff that encourages that that has some

869
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: UM side by side comparisons. I um, I see what

870
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: people see. I totally see what people see. I don't

871
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: think that, you know, old Paul looks like new Paul

872
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: really that much at all. Does he look like that

873
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: to you for the most part? Does? I'm sorry one

874
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: of you said no, there are difference. Isn't anyone said no,

875
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: he looks like him? So look at these two guys,

876
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: they're like similar. Those are the ones that look the

877
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: most similar, but there's like a lot of differences in

878
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: those um and then particularly the ones on these two pages,

879
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Like the chin is totally different, and that's not like

880
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: a weight loss thing. It's a totally different chin shape.

881
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. You don't. I don't. Okay, you're

882
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: gonna do your photo analysis thing that you do. Well, No,

883
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't have to analyze any photos other than look

884
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: at him and go, Okay, that photo was taken in

885
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three and the other photo was taken in

886
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven or sixty eight. Okay, ballpark, ballpark ranges here.

887
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: But there's a couple of things. The guys are aging,

888
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: they're losing their baby fat. That's going to have an

889
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: impact on it's a heroin addict, also in a methodict.

890
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: Yeah it wasn't, but but they can. They probably all

891
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: got a little bit of plastic surgery here and there

892
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: to fix some things they didn't like make in the

893
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: sixties that was so prevalent, though I don't think so.

894
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, at the at the level

895
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: of fame that they had, I'm not going to say

896
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: that they couldn't have done it, but there's some things

897
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: that really make me think that it is just simply aging.

898
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: And one of them is the insane schedule that the

899
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: Beatles held between So you guys have read the history

900
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: of the Beatles and and there's this point where they

901
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: spent a bunch of time in Hamburg, and they were

902
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: there over the course of like three or four years.

903
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: This is before the US invasion. They did twelve hundred

904
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: live events in three years or three and a half years.

905
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: That's a freaking insane schedule. They worked hard. I have

906
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: a popular and I have a feeling that a lot

907
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: of these early photos that we see have two things

908
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: going on. One is they're probably wearing makeup is going

909
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: to hide the wrinkles, and two, they've probably been airbrushed

910
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: because it wasn't around, so you had to airbrush photos

911
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: so that the wrinkles went away. So that's a huge

912
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: thing to me, is that they had worked so hard

913
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: for so long, they're gonna burn out. They're gonna be

914
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: drinking and partying and chasing skirts and just having fun. Well,

915
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna burn off that fat. They're They're not gonna

916
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: be a twenty two year old kid anymore. They're gonna

917
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: be a twenty six year old guy, and you see

918
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: that with a lot of men where it's like he

919
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: was so baby faced and then suddenly he has a

920
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: chin and a jawline and it's weird and how did

921
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: that happen? Like that happens all the time. Yeah, yeah, total, yeah. Yeah.

922
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: The height thing, so let's I'll just say that. Um.

923
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: In uh, nineteen sixty three, there was a biography that

924
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: was published of Paul and it said that he was

925
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: five eleven, and then in nineteen sixty seven he reported

926
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: that he was six to um, which is it was

927
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: just strange because Paul never looked that tall to me. Yeah,

928
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: he didn't look that tall to me either. But I also,

929
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean they started wearing lifts like he was wearing shoes.

930
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: But also, dudes grow. Paul was always the tallest of

931
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: them if you look. So I laughed at this because

932
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,959
Speaker 1: there was some articles that I came across from people

933
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: like well, I found this live performance where they were

934
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: moving around and I was trying to use that to

935
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: judge the height of one or the other. Okay, you

936
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: didn't need to do that. They had all kinds of

937
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: skills and they're like my My favorite one is they

938
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 1: came off the plane when they first hit the States,

939
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: which means that they were they weren't wearing fancy, fancy

940
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: shoes and stuff, because if we're on a plane all day.

941
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: But you know, who's the tallest, Paul, So he didn't

942
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: suddenly get taller than the other guys. He was always

943
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: a little taller than the other Well, and the pictures

944
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: that I always see are of them, you know, wearing

945
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: exactly the same thing. So people say, oh, but they

946
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 1: didn't wear exactly the same thing, you know, much longer

947
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: than after they got popular. So it's always kind of stuff.

948
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: It's really grainy, crappy pictures, and it's like, oh, yeah,

949
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: see that one, that one's Paul. And it's like, I

950
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: don't know, they all have the exact same haircut, they

951
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: all have dark, dark hair, they're all wearing the same thing.

952
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: That could be Paul, that could be Ringo, that could

953
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: be anyone. I don't know who that is. So you

954
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: can't just say, oh, look that's that one because they

955
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: all look exactly the same. The photo is so grainy,

956
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: e they're wearing the same thing. And then a lot

957
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: of it is taken from like their Ed Sullivan appearance,

958
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: which is video tape. It's it's it's that tape. It's film,

959
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: which is not that greater equality film, and it has

960
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: an aged well. The other thing from that Teleivan film

961
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 1: that people talk about is the changes in Paul's performance demeanor,

962
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: which is always so interesting to me because it's like, dude, yeah,

963
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: they were like brand new to the stage. They had

964
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: never really performed on that scale before, and I'm sure

965
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: he was nervous. And then as they performs for The

966
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: Sullivan Show, the sensors would walk up and say, don't

967
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: do this. I mean, there's famous stories about what they told.

968
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen there's that gag video out there.

969
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: I think it's an S and L thing about Elvis

970
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 1: Pressley on The Sullivan Show, and they said, you can't

971
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: shake your hips, it's it's too sexual, and he went

972
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: ahead and did it. And there's they put a black

973
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: bar across his waist, which I did, and then he

974
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: keeps shaking and the bar keeps rising, he keeps trying

975
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: to get taller till there's nothing but Elvis's chin and

976
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: the in his eyes on the screen, and the whole

977
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: rest of the screen is black like that but that

978
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: is the extent that the sensors went to. They did

979
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: crazy stuff, and I'm sure that they were afraid to

980
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: do anything. Heard that story about the doors, right, there's

981
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of them. Yeah, So, I mean I

982
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: agree that it's um, they're not good reasons. You have more.

983
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: I see your book out. Yeah, I know the book

984
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: didn't go away. There's still there's let's let's go there.

985
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: Let's throw on the fire for this, okay. Um, So

986
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: I think that where there's this whole thing of Paul

987
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: being in an accident, and that's where this whole story.

988
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: But you do know was never in an accident. Yes

989
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: he was. He was in a mo Pad accident. Okay,

990
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: he was in a Mopad accident. That's how he chipped

991
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: his tooth and that's how he got the scar on

992
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: his lip. But I think that is the kernel of

993
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, Paul was in an accident? What actually had? Right? Okay,

994
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: So a car that he owned was in a really

995
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: serious accident, and he was in a Mopad accident probably

996
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, within a year or so of each other.

997
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: Who was driving his friends. I don't remember his name.

998
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: There's well, there's there's several friends. There was no he crashed,

999
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: he totaled the car. But he was like, fine, well

1000
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: that's for the Mini Cooper. Yeah, there is when you

1001
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: when you go on the internet, you will see a

1002
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: series of very iconic photos which show I believe it's

1003
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: an Aston Martin, it's a sports car and this thing

1004
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: is just ripped up and I see it referenced all

1005
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: the time for this story. But that's the Princess Die car.

1006
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: Well but here's the thing, No, this is this is

1007
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: total sixties sporty. I started Google image searching, and I

1008
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: love the fact that you can grab an image and

1009
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: look for other similars, and very quickly found out that

1010
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: there was indeed an accident in the December of nineve

1011
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: which people then spun forward to this possible November sixties

1012
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: six thing. And is there is a friend of the band,

1013
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: a guy whose name was Tara Brown, and he was

1014
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, he was a big guy, or not a

1015
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: big he was a semi famous and he was hanging

1016
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: around with the band doing stuff and he was driving

1017
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: his car and he had a woman in the car

1018
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: with him, and he swerved to avoid another car and

1019
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: he careened through park cars and while it said that

1020
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: he was going exceptionally fast. It killed him and his head.

1021
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: He took severe damage to his skull and it killed him.

1022
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: But it wasn't Paul. He looked nothing like Paul. But

1023
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: he was a friend of the Beatles. So this is

1024
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: as with always, it's a game of telephone. A friend

1025
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: of the Beatles was in a car accident in a

1026
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: sports car, and then it do do Do Do Do do?

1027
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: Paul is dead. So that's why thing is that. I

1028
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: because I was confused when I read your stuff about

1029
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: it being the Mini and I what the hell? Yeah,

1030
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: I guess I should have clarified. I'm realizing I didn't

1031
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: at this point, Um that that story that we told

1032
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: in the beginning is the like Steve version of things,

1033
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: when we told the most fantastical version of anything. That's

1034
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: what that is, realistic magical mystery tour. Yeah, none of

1035
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: it happened. It didn't happen. Sorry, Yeah, I know it was.

1036
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: Actually I don't. I didn't even know that it grew

1037
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: from that, Colonel Truth. I thought somebody just made it up.

1038
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: I really believe that somebody made it up. He did.

1039
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: It was an amalgam of a lot of things. Yeah,

1040
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: I I think with a lot of these things, it's

1041
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: it's held together with spit and duct tape, and it

1042
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: just I don't know how it survives. Just a heck

1043
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: of a lot of LSD. Yeah, there's a lot of

1044
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: things that No, actually there's not a lot of things

1045
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: have been held together by LSD. So you don't know,

1046
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: do you have any more stuff that we need to

1047
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: just nothing that is that is really good? Good bits

1048
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: that the car and the friend were really and that

1049
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: the origin of the scar and the tooth, that it's

1050
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: not a different human being he got like people get

1051
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, there was actually somebody who said, Paul,

1052
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: you need to get your tooth fixed it it looks

1053
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: kind of bad. People are going to notice. But apparently

1054
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: it's you know, there was no nerves are and he

1055
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: just didn't care. You never fixed it. Yeah, I never

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Speaker 1: get fixed a little super glup, you know. I mean that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, even though I don't believe that Paul died,

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Speaker 1: there is a similar, more recent thing, which is Avril Levine. No,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot, there's actually a lot of this stuff

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Speaker 1: out there, and it's not it's well, it's not just

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love the avro Levine thing I do.

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Speaker 1: There's also like the Beyonce was never pregnant thing. There's

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Speaker 1: like there's so many of these things out there that

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Speaker 1: people are just like crazy, we'll be talking about Levin. No,

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Speaker 1: I'll just say the moral of the story is just

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Speaker 1: like calm down, Yeah, like take a step back and

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Speaker 1: think about what you're saying. Well, the thing about it

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Speaker 1: is is that if Paul truly is dead, well they

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Speaker 1: found a really good replacement and who cares. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: amazing that they managed to find a replacement that looked

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Speaker 1: like sound like that could play the same instrument, could write. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like the coincidence for that, the alignment of the stars,

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Speaker 1: and really realistically, to Joe's point, I mean Fall, if

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Speaker 1: it is, Fall has been Paul for longer than Paul

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Speaker 1: ever really was, and at this point he is Paul.

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Speaker 1: That's just that's so, what you're telling me is that

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Speaker 1: the British monarchy united an impersonator. Yeah, why not. It

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first time, and that, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Fall probably deserved it, you know, because he made many

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Speaker 1: contributions to the band, apparently at least after he was

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Speaker 1: swapped in for Paul. Yeah, yeah, so I guess he

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Speaker 1: deserves his knighthood. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So. UM.

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Speaker 1: If you want to see any of the lengths of

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Speaker 1: the research that we did, um, we'll try to include

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Speaker 1: some that have pictures at hatch to them. You can

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Speaker 1: find that information on Thinking Sideways podcast dot com. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook. We have a group

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Speaker 1: and we have a page. UM, so find both of

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Speaker 1: those pretty cool things. I guess I don't know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We have a Twitter we're thinking sideways. We have a

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Speaker 1: so you can email us just like literally whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: that there's like a million of them and there's nothing

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Speaker 1: we can do in response. Yeah, we can't have a

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Speaker 1: discussion to find out really what's going on. Okay. And

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Speaker 1: then also, if you want to contribute to the show

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Speaker 1: So I guess we're gonna, you know, just get out

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Speaker 1: of here. Okay, So I'm going to join a Beatles

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Speaker 1: tribute band, and I'm gonna be bulled. I think we

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Speaker 1: had to like start a Beatles tribute band. All we need,

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Speaker 1: Actually we don't. We can do it three because Paul's dead, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not Ringo. I'm not Ringo. I'll be Ringo. I'm George. Alright, Ringo.

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Speaker 1: Let's get out of here, right bye, guys. I love you,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah, I love you yeah yeah yeah. I love

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Speaker 1: luck that. You know, you should be glad