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Speaker 1: to this. Lamar Jackson Patrick Mahomes comparison. Rob It and
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Son wrote an interesting story. I believe the
Speaker 1: headline was ravens QB. Lamar Jackson does not like Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes comparisons after record breaking deal, they're unavoidable and they
Speaker 1: just talk about, you know now that Mahomes got this
Speaker 1: five hundred and three million dollars deal over ten or
Speaker 1: twelve years, you mean one hundred and sixty three. Let's
Speaker 1: just call it what it is. I don't mean that,
Speaker 1: I mean five hundred and three. It's what it says
Speaker 1: because they got to guarantee him. He you think he's
Speaker 1: only gonna play four or five years or what. I
Speaker 1: just don't think he's gonna get five hundred and three
Speaker 1: million probably. I know, I know Mike Trout's getting four
Speaker 1: twenty six. I think he's getting more. I think he's
Speaker 1: getting more than five hundred million, because I think that
Speaker 1: this contract is gonna go about six years, he'll get
Speaker 1: even a higher a higher amount of money. But anyway,
Speaker 1: there is now the talk of you know, Baltimore knows. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is you know, the type of money that's out
Speaker 1: there now, and this is the type of money it'll
Speaker 1: take to sign Lamar Jackson. Now, to your point, and
Speaker 1: to a lot of people's point, Lamar Jackson may very
Speaker 1: well not want a ten year deal. Okay, However, let's
Speaker 1: just assume that you know he would take that that
Speaker 1: that's not the issue. The issue is if you were
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, would you offer right now Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: that type of deal ten years, five hundred million. I
Speaker 1: got one answer for you. Are you gonna say what
Speaker 1: I said today on first things first? Yes? No way, no.
Speaker 1: How you want to talk about premature, this would be premature.
Speaker 1: And that's nothing to take away from Lamar Jackson. The
Speaker 1: year he had and how great he was Chris for
Speaker 1: the Ravens and we all marveled at him. He was tremendous, right, tremendous,
Speaker 1: and he's a game changer and he's a winner and
Speaker 1: all those other things, and all the naysayers when he
Speaker 1: came out of college. He's poved everybody wrong, period. But
Speaker 1: you gotta win something you got. There's gotta be a
Speaker 1: little bit more than that, and you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: before you turn over the brink struck to everybody. The
Speaker 1: Ravens have his contract, they have control of it, and
Speaker 1: you should cash him. Chris. If the Ravens win this
Speaker 1: year coming up, they win the super Bowl, now all
Speaker 1: bets are off. He would then be like Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: an MVP a Super Bowl, Right, what what what would
Speaker 1: be used of his first two and a half years? Yes,
Speaker 1: so what would be your hesitation? There would be none.
Speaker 1: I would still have hesitation for ten years because I
Speaker 1: think his style of play. I'm just saying, if the
Speaker 1: guy was able to win. You know how hard it
Speaker 1: is to win a Super Bowl, asked the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 1: who've won one playoff game. No, I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: ain't easy. To the bottom of the barrel. I couldn't help.
Speaker 1: That's like saying it's hard to win an NBA championship.
Speaker 1: I mean it is. It is a real child, ask
Speaker 1: ask ask Land Stevenson it's hard. Wow, I did not
Speaker 1: even like ask Kyle Corford it's hop but but my
Speaker 1: point is that it ain't daddy, it ain't that easy.
Speaker 1: And remember Matthew Stafford was the first overall pick. The
Speaker 1: quarterback has been paid Chris handsomely. It's just hard. At
Speaker 1: my point is that if if Lamar was able to
Speaker 1: do it and win a Super Bowl inus and like
Speaker 1: you say, two and a half years and is that guy,
Speaker 1: and puts on another another fantastic season like he had
Speaker 1: this past year, Chris, he would be in line to
Speaker 1: get paid. Yeah. I look, if he has another. For me,
Speaker 1: it's not even just about winning like that. He hasn't
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. If they have another, if he
Speaker 1: has another great year, say and they make the playoffs, obviously,
Speaker 1: maybe they get beat in the second round. You know,
Speaker 1: they win a game then lose, whether it's AYFC championship
Speaker 1: or whatever. I wouldn't like I would be willing to
Speaker 1: go like a five year deal. My hesitation is more
Speaker 1: so the style of play. And I know, thank god
Speaker 1: last year he was able to you know, I mean
Speaker 1: that was tremendous what we saw and he was healthy.
Speaker 1: But to me, a big difference forget the Super Bowl championship.
Speaker 1: A big difference between Pat Mahomes and Lamar Jackson is
Speaker 1: that I believe Pat mahomes style of play is far
Speaker 1: more sustainable over the law. Now an injury, an injury
Speaker 1: can always have but of course, I mean, anybody can
Speaker 1: get injured. But my point is he is a passer.
Speaker 1: He is not a runner primarily, or even fifty fifty.
Speaker 1: He's a passer and that style of play we've seen
Speaker 1: it can last for fifteen years, if not more. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson his style of play, and I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: probably you even think he won't rush for a thousand
Speaker 1: yards this year. So he's going to dial back the
Speaker 1: running probably a little bit every year, even if the
Speaker 1: hits and don't get to him and wear him down,
Speaker 1: which is a big if because Cam Newton is twice
Speaker 1: as big as Lamar Jackson. The wear and tear, the
Speaker 1: hits he's taken have you know, taken a toll on
Speaker 1: his body, So that even if that's not the case, though,
Speaker 1: he's just going to slow down a little bit as
Speaker 1: the years go on. He's not gonna be quite as shifty,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be quite as fast, and so that'll
Speaker 1: take away a little bit from his running, and he
Speaker 1: may take more licks than he did last year, so
Speaker 1: that is a bigger question mark for me. And then
Speaker 1: he's a very good passer. He improved a lot last year,
Speaker 1: but we all know he's got some more improvement to
Speaker 1: do to become like a great passing quarterback. He's very
Speaker 1: good at he's a great runner, he's a very good passer,
Speaker 1: but he's still got some work to do to become
Speaker 1: a great passing quarterback. So that's really now. I would
Speaker 1: go four or five, you know, but to go ten
Speaker 1: I would not be willing to do that because of
Speaker 1: his style. I hope, I hope Lamar Jackson is smart
Speaker 1: enough to see what Mahomes did and not even would
Speaker 1: even want a contract of ten years long term anyway,
Speaker 1: and that he would be more open to the idea
Speaker 1: of betting on himself on being a Kirk Cousins. On
Speaker 1: decided that I'm going to take Now you're favorable on
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins contracts. No, I never had a problem with
Speaker 1: a three year, fully guaranteed contracts. No. I mean what
Speaker 1: he did what he did, Okay, So I thought you,
Speaker 1: I'm not a franchise tag. No, the franchise tag means
Speaker 1: I'm talking that that meant that they didn't have any time,
Speaker 1: they didn't believe in him, right right, that's totally different.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that he bet on himself with a three year,
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed contract and it will be up for another one.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, which you'll be able to
Speaker 1: get money. That's all I'm saying is, don't lock yourself in.
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes is happy there, that's fine. He wants to say,
Speaker 1: that's fine. You could stay, you can know what. You
Speaker 1: could still re up, Chris. You could do a five year,
Speaker 1: you could do fie years. It doesn't mean that you
Speaker 1: can't re up because you don't have a ten year deal.
Speaker 1: It just for a ten year deal where you don't
Speaker 1: have any mobility or you don't have any say in
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. That's my only problem. I don't think
Speaker 1: you disagree with him having an out If things aren't
Speaker 1: going well, Andy Reid retire, the team is sold and
Speaker 1: there's a skin Flint owner who doesn't want to spend
Speaker 1: money on players. Now you're stuck, am I right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Things change should have gotten out, that's all. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Isn't out to me makes sense because you
Speaker 1: don't want to you don't know, things change so quickly
Speaker 1: and over that period of time. Think about what you
Speaker 1: would doing ten years ago. You were floundering sportswriter in Ohio.
Speaker 1: He didn't know what was going on. You really struggling. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's true. That's true. And uh, and I don't
Speaker 1: think this will become a trend, the ten year contract.
Speaker 1: I think from both sides, you know, from the team side.
Speaker 1: I mean look right now, one players side as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know people have dissected this contract, and you
Speaker 1: know they look at all the flaws Chris. It's all
Speaker 1: out there and you know other agents and players have
Speaker 1: read it, and it'll be interesting to see it. You're
Speaker 1: right as you move forward. Yeah, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a bad deal, but because it's what he wanted
Speaker 1: to do, and I think he'll end up getting more
Speaker 1: than five hundred million dollars. I think they'll re up
Speaker 1: him at some point, you know, assuming there's no injuries
Speaker 1: or anything like that. But yeah, it's it's interesting that
Speaker 1: he did it that way. But yeah, for Lamar, I
Speaker 1: don't see anything like this happening. I think his next
Speaker 1: deal will probably be, you know, a five year deal,
Speaker 1: and um, do you expect him to have the same
Speaker 1: type of season that he did last year? Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: went from fifty touchdowns to twenty six. Um. So, no,
Speaker 1: with the injury. Of course, he's still played. I mean
Speaker 1: he played whatever game it was okay, but he's still
Speaker 1: that wouldn't need that. That wouldn't have made up to
Speaker 1: to fifty. We wouldn't want to get more than a
Speaker 1: half four. No, he wouldn't have in those three games.
Speaker 1: He would have made for three days for him to
Speaker 1: throw twelve touchdown. No, Chris, he didn't throw a touchdown
Speaker 1: again the Lions. It was a game. One game, Wow,
Speaker 1: one game. All I'm saying is you over and you
Speaker 1: said he was gonna get forty. I tried to tell you, hurt,
Speaker 1: it's a part of the game that all you get hurt.
Speaker 1: Still got hurt. I still say, lamar, No, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna have the same season, Chris. Every year they're gonna
Speaker 1: figure out and try to do something different to take
Speaker 1: away the things that have worked, and you have to
Speaker 1: make your own adjustments. I think it's very hard to
Speaker 1: do the same thing and put up the same numbers
Speaker 1: every year. We saw the Tom Brady year, right with
Speaker 1: Randy Moss and the fifty touchdowns and all that. Then
Speaker 1: throw fifty touchdowns every year. It's part. It's hard. So
Speaker 1: I think, Lamar Jackson, we'll take a step back. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna fall off a cliff and it was
Speaker 1: a mirage. No, I'm not saying that, but I don't
Speaker 1: expect the year he put up last year. He was incredible.
Speaker 1: But there was one game and I'm exaggerating, Chris, where
Speaker 1: he threw nine passes and five of them were touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Do you remember No, I mean I do remember that one.
Speaker 1: It was like it was something like fifteen man. But
Speaker 1: the first game of the year, it was something ridiculous
Speaker 1: that he did. Was that that was Miami, I believe,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it was crazy. And then he had
Speaker 1: a game later like it might have been later in
Speaker 1: the year, game like that, Yeah, he had. Look, he
Speaker 1: there's no question he was great last year and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to duplicate. And I think the interesting thing,
Speaker 1: even though I said, you know, his win, his style
Speaker 1: of players, what would concern me most as far as
Speaker 1: giving him a long term deal. He has been solved
Speaker 1: in the playoffs right now, and I'm not gonna even
Speaker 1: hold the first year against him. He was a rookie,
Speaker 1: and Chris this whole thing against it, because if he
Speaker 1: would have played well as rookie, you wouldn't take that
Speaker 1: away from you say that, But I never understand what
Speaker 1: that means. I mean because because that doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: can't say the dude's a rookie. I don't expect him
Speaker 1: to you know, not gonna hold it against him. The
Speaker 1: point is because people try to praise then I don't
Speaker 1: get that because people try to like, don't count that
Speaker 1: loss for Lebron. And in his first year when they
Speaker 1: people doing the circle, no everybody recognizes he's three and
Speaker 1: six in the finals. So people try to pooh pooh
Speaker 1: it and they say, well, he really shouldn't have been there,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a team. Because my point is, had
Speaker 1: they won that championship, nobody would say, don't count that
Speaker 1: he was a rookie and he didn't really have a team.
Speaker 1: They would why would you, Well, but my point is
Speaker 1: if you're if you're not gonna count it, you gotta
Speaker 1: either count it and not count it both sides, so
Speaker 1: so it counts. I count the loss of Jackson and
Speaker 1: it was a he had two games where he had
Speaker 1: he threw twenty passes and five of them were touching him.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was it. Okay, Yeah, that was against the
Speaker 1: Rams and one was that the one late late Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah uh but anyway, um yeah. The bottom line though,
Speaker 1: is he is not been, I mean even close Rob
Speaker 1: two as effective in the playoffs as he was in
Speaker 1: the regular season, which makes you wonder, you know, with
Speaker 1: the team with a little more time. I know Tennessee
Speaker 1: didn't have more time last year to prepare for him,
Speaker 1: but they they slowed him down. I mean they scored
Speaker 1: twelve points. I know his numbers were crazy, but they
Speaker 1: only put up twelve points as an offense. And they
Speaker 1: were beaten by the wild card at home, and he
Speaker 1: had two picks. Not a good look. Yeah no, And
Speaker 1: so that's the you know, you want to see if
Speaker 1: this style can you One can he stay upright playing
Speaker 1: this style? And two can you win in the playoffs
Speaker 1: if they if they have a similar let's say I
Speaker 1: asked you about a similar year, Rob, but say they
Speaker 1: have another fizzle, they fizzle out again. In the playoffs,
Speaker 1: like get beaten in their first game again after a
Speaker 1: great regular season and Lamar struggles again, would you start
Speaker 1: to really have some reservations about how far you can
Speaker 1: go with him. I would have to see how they lost,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, take a look
Speaker 1: at it? Um is it him? Are we not putting
Speaker 1: them in the right situation? What a team's doing. I
Speaker 1: just would have to look at how how it came down,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like like the nuts and
Speaker 1: boats before I would say, oh, you can't win this way.
Speaker 1: I know Colin Kaepernick didn't win the Super Bowl, but
Speaker 1: they got to a super Bowl, you know, so I
Speaker 1: know it's possible Chris to get there, and then uh,
Speaker 1: whether or not you can win would be it. But
Speaker 1: I'm not there. I'm not in any camp to have
Speaker 1: any reservation. What he's done is open up so much.
Speaker 1: Uh from the quarterback position. Uh, you gotta respect him
Speaker 1: on the run. If you leave guys open, he'll hit them.
Speaker 1: So they're hard to defend. And and they were. They
Speaker 1: they won a lot of big games last year. They
Speaker 1: were very, very impressive. So let's see if he can
Speaker 1: duplicate it or get close to it. But ultimately you're right,
Speaker 1: the postseason Chris will matter because he's owing two so far,
Speaker 1: and he's had these. Remember even his rookie year when
Speaker 1: he took over for Flacco, he had that great finish
Speaker 1: and then they got to the playoffs and the same
Speaker 1: team that he had beaten, which was the Chargers, Right,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he couldn't move the ball. Both
Speaker 1: teams Tennessee last year, the Chargers the first year he
Speaker 1: had had his way against him in the regular seats,
Speaker 1: and then in the playoffs he was a completely different story.
Speaker 1: So no, that's a that's a good point, all right.
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Speaker 1: we really like worked with him both at the Old
Speaker 1: Place and here at Fox Sports Radio and Fox Sports One,
Speaker 1: Stephen jack He went on CNN last night and apologized
Speaker 1: Rob for I mean, he really defended DeShawn Jackson to
Speaker 1: the hilt and uh. He So where it started was
Speaker 1: DeShawn had put on Instagram what was a he thought
Speaker 1: was a quote from Adolph Hitler, which is obviously never
Speaker 1: a smart thing to quote. Just don't even don't even
Speaker 1: mess with that, dude. Uh. And then it turns out
Speaker 1: it wasn't even a real quote. It was a fabricated
Speaker 1: quote that Summer saying really was made up in like
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen or something like that. But it was about
Speaker 1: um white Jews in America and how they planned to
Speaker 1: take over the world, and it just, you know, very
Speaker 1: a lot of stereotypical type stuff. Uh and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And he got a lot of pushback on it, rightly so,
Speaker 1: and he apologized. But then Stephen, even after the Sean apologize,
Speaker 1: kept kind of going in and digging, you know, doubling
Speaker 1: down and tripling down. I don't know if you saw
Speaker 1: the videos, Rob, but you know, hardcore tripling down right right.
Speaker 1: And yesterday last night he went on the Don Lemon
Speaker 1: Show on CNN and did in about face here it is, no,
Speaker 1: I don't support any of that. Maybe I could have
Speaker 1: been more clear of what I thought that Sean was
Speaker 1: correct about, but I didn't feel I didn't feel the
Speaker 1: need to go into a conversation than me and him
Speaker 1: had about how they was treating him and Riley Cooper.
Speaker 1: I couldn't have changed those words. But the people that
Speaker 1: know me, my Jewish friends that I talked to today,
Speaker 1: they know that the last thing I was spewing was
Speaker 1: to defend Hitler or any other post. That's why I
Speaker 1: didn't speak on Hitler or even speak on his post. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that, um and he said elsewhere. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't hate anybody, and we, like I said, we
Speaker 1: know Stephen. I don't work with him about Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he doesn't, He's not that type of dude. But
Speaker 1: a lot of people, not just him. One of their
Speaker 1: defenses as always, I don't hate anybody, you know, but
Speaker 1: we have to understand our actions is what it really
Speaker 1: is about. I mean, you got white supremacist. They will
Speaker 1: say they don't hate anybody, or they don't hate blacks,
Speaker 1: you know, and so and I again, I agree with Steve,
Speaker 1: and I believe that's really how he feels. But I'm
Speaker 1: saying that in and of itself is not an adequate defense,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, after you've done something, said something, whatever,
Speaker 1: written something to say. I don't hate people. Anybody can
Speaker 1: say that absolutely, And Chris, the thing we talk about
Speaker 1: all the time is we're looking for equality, right, social justice.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about black people, and if we want that,
Speaker 1: then that's how we have to treat other people too.
Speaker 1: You can't paint. Everybody would have brought brush and everybody's
Speaker 1: not this, and you know what I mean, And and
Speaker 1: we can't get into that. We just can't not not
Speaker 1: if that's what we want, and we want to be
Speaker 1: treated as individuals and and and as uh people and
Speaker 1: not just as lumped in with when something bad happened,
Speaker 1: you know. Uh yeah, yeah, that's what black people do,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's that's the stuff
Speaker 1: we've been fighting forever. So so yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: You can't do it. You can't do it. When people
Speaker 1: hear that stuff, that's what's gonna be a reaction. And
Speaker 1: that's why how many times we see people have to
Speaker 1: come back Chris after doubling down and then have to apologize.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean, and I'll tell you this, and
Speaker 1: this is totally different, just the degree of it. But
Speaker 1: the Drew Brees thing, nobody could have been more passionate
Speaker 1: about his grandfathers in the war, and am I right?
Speaker 1: And this is what I believe? And what happened. He
Speaker 1: came back the next day. That's what I'm apologized. And
Speaker 1: it's been apologizing that since. Chris. This is my point,
Speaker 1: because when you say stuff and you rub people the
Speaker 1: wrong way, it's not that it doesn't mean you can't
Speaker 1: have an opinion. We talk about it all the time.
Speaker 1: We've all been there, Chris, me and you. We've been
Speaker 1: doing this for a long time, right, right, We've been
Speaker 1: caught up in situations saying stuff that people didn't like,
Speaker 1: and it happens. But my point is you have to
Speaker 1: be conscious of that, especially where we are today, what's
Speaker 1: happening in the country. It's different, it's heightened. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you really have to think about what you're posting. This
Speaker 1: really goes for everybody, but particularly people in the public
Speaker 1: eye wherever. Whatever it is, whether it's an athlete, a broadcaster,
Speaker 1: an actor, anybody that's known that's in the public eye,
Speaker 1: you really got to be careful what you're tweeting or
Speaker 1: putting out on social media. Because Sean got his quote
Speaker 1: that was attributed to Adolf Hitler from Lewis Firekhin, the
Speaker 1: leader of the Nation of Islam, who gave a speech
Speaker 1: on the fourth of July, and fire Kind quoted this,
Speaker 1: which was just false. And so the Sean took it
Speaker 1: from there obviously didn't fact check it or you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, anything ran with it. Stephen probably saw it,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously saw it and thought it was fine,
Speaker 1: I guess, and went with it, and neither one of
Speaker 1: them kind of checked it out. And so you got it.
Speaker 1: This is advice for everybody. You've got to be sure
Speaker 1: of what you're putting out there before you hit sin
Speaker 1: and and and we know this being in the newspaper business,
Speaker 1: Chris and our backgrounds. It's about sourcing. It's about where
Speaker 1: did this come from? Do you know what I mean
Speaker 1: that most people don't think that they see something out here.
Speaker 1: There's so many plants and stuff on the internet. Things
Speaker 1: you see Chris, and you go, oh wow, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that, and then you realize it's false. It was
Speaker 1: made up. It was done to try to get people
Speaker 1: to put that stuff out there, propaganda, false information, and
Speaker 1: so God's got to be very careful. And the other
Speaker 1: thing is, and we'll say it over and over. Stay
Speaker 1: off a hitler, My god, just stay off. Leave him alone,
Speaker 1: Leave him alone, the worst person in the world. Right,
Speaker 1: what more? What? What? What analogy? Chris? What comparison do
Speaker 1: you need to make with that guy? Right? If you
Speaker 1: want to make a point, make it without him. Get
Speaker 1: another source. All right, let's go to our next guest.
Speaker 1: He's an NFL veteran NFL network analyst, Will Blackman. Will
Speaker 1: what's up? Brother? What's up? Will? Listen? I am just
Speaker 1: the wine guy now, I'm yes, come on, open that bottle,
Speaker 1: let it breathe. Well, right, your business is booming, right,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just actually doing Okay. The wine MVP
Speaker 1: is the company and we had about sixty members, so
Speaker 1: it's cool. It's fun. I'm definitely enjoying it. How you
Speaker 1: guys doing, We are doing all right, man, we are great.
Speaker 1: And let me ask you this as we hopefully prepare
Speaker 1: for an NFL season. Yes, how as a player feel
Speaker 1: about you know, I'm talking about the virus and everything,
Speaker 1: you know, going into a season like this, and maybe
Speaker 1: you've talked to other you know, to current players and
Speaker 1: gotten their perspectives. Well, I mean, the main thing is
Speaker 1: to find out, you know what, what what is the
Speaker 1: deal for real? You know, I'm sure owners are speaking
Speaker 1: in terms of what to do, but I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone doesn't have a clear concise answer on what's going on.
Speaker 1: You know. So for example, there are sports being played,
Speaker 1: you know, so that's that's just interesting. Um. I think economically,
Speaker 1: there's there's going to be a season, just just like economically,
Speaker 1: businesses are opening because they have to. So uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just real curious. I'm curious because and
Speaker 1: then you guys opened with me being an analyst, but
Speaker 1: right now, I got a bunch of situations pending based
Speaker 1: on what's going to happen put the seasons and didn't
Speaker 1: nick up their mind, well like what vacations or what. No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying I have stuff pending in terms of which
Speaker 1: network I'm gonna going right right right? Oh, breaking news
Speaker 1: right here on the dance, is it not? You got options? No?
Speaker 1: I have options, but no one can actually make a
Speaker 1: move because they don't know what's going to happen, right right,
Speaker 1: I see, right right, everything's on hold in case there's
Speaker 1: no season. They don't want to pay you or put
Speaker 1: you the contract, right, I get it. Speaking of contract,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton got a new contract, and we'll get to
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes as well. He signed a one year deal.
Speaker 1: What what what's your take there in New England? Then
Speaker 1: I've seen both sides of the spectrum. Oh, he won't
Speaker 1: because he only got a million dollars guarantee, he won't
Speaker 1: make you pass training camp. They'll wind up him. He'll
Speaker 1: be the starter for the Patriots and they'll win the
Speaker 1: division in that AFC East. Where where are you on Cam?
Speaker 1: Uh and and and the his results coming up in
Speaker 1: this season? Yeah, well, I'm very hopeful. I think this
Speaker 1: is a great situation. And simply because when you have
Speaker 1: a player who's asked talented as Cam, who has you know,
Speaker 1: achieved the highest individual award in both college and the NFL.
Speaker 1: Players like that, they need to be challenged, you know.
Speaker 1: And obviously you know Cam, I'm sure it wasn't comfortable
Speaker 1: what happened the last year when Kyle Allen taking over
Speaker 1: and him dealing with his shoulders. He went through a
Speaker 1: lot of adversity, and to go to somebody like Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick also for the salary that he signed. I feel
Speaker 1: like this is gonna be a great situation for him
Speaker 1: to be challenged that's the only way he's going to elevate,
Speaker 1: not being in the same place if he was still
Speaker 1: with the Panthers. And you know, Ron Rivera, I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna really elevate and help them a lot.
Speaker 1: So I'm a feminist move. I've been you know, everyone
Speaker 1: wants to say, oh, we called it back in the day, whatever,
Speaker 1: but I was in favor of this. I was on
Speaker 1: Calling a while ago talking about it. So I'm really
Speaker 1: hopeful for this move. I'm with you there, Will. I
Speaker 1: think it's a great move for both sides. And I'm expecting,
Speaker 1: you know, assuming Cam is healthy, I'm expecting them to
Speaker 1: have a big year and lead them to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Your last two years you played in Washington, and that
Speaker 1: that team finally is going to looks like they're going
Speaker 1: to change their names under pressure right now. Rob and
Speaker 1: I have long stated this. We felt like, kind of
Speaker 1: before the owner, who you know is the CEO for
Speaker 1: fed X, kind of put this pressure in this heat
Speaker 1: on the red Skins or the Washington football team to
Speaker 1: change that name. We felt like the black players on
Speaker 1: the team should step up and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: We're not playing a game for this team until the
Speaker 1: name has changed. Did you guys ever have discussions like
Speaker 1: that or even you know, think about that as individuals
Speaker 1: or anything. Oh, listen, it was impossible to do anything
Speaker 1: political over there. You just you literally just weren't allowed.
Speaker 1: I think the relationships between you know, the higher ups
Speaker 1: in the on the Redskins executive team was really close
Speaker 1: with the White House. It wasn't far you know, so
Speaker 1: even when you know, we had certain players that decided
Speaker 1: to you know, take a knee or hold it fist
Speaker 1: up during this whole um during the Kaepernick thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: during the protest with Kaepernick, I mean, we had meetings like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: you know, we had meetings with the police, We had
Speaker 1: meetings with Bruce Allen, We had meetings with everybody in
Speaker 1: terms of should you know, to do it or to
Speaker 1: not do it? And basically the meeting we all kind
Speaker 1: of had to try to have a conversation and educate
Speaker 1: one another about it. But what I got out of
Speaker 1: that meeting was, yeah, better stop kneeling. But if y'all
Speaker 1: did it, what would they do? Why if they can't
Speaker 1: get rid of the team. But I don't know, But
Speaker 1: I don't know, But I don't I don't believe that
Speaker 1: players were straight up do that. They'd have to be
Speaker 1: You'd have to be unified to do it. If you
Speaker 1: ni enough guys did it, or unless there's a superstar
Speaker 1: on the team, Yeah, you would have to have people.
Speaker 1: So I felt like, Okay, that team that was on
Speaker 1: in fifteen definitely had a lot of veterans, and sixteen
Speaker 1: we had a lot of veterans. So yeah, if out
Speaker 1: the gate we had guys like Trent Williams decided not
Speaker 1: to do something, guys like Josh Norman and us to
Speaker 1: do something, just collectively all these players to you know,
Speaker 1: make an educate decision on why they're not going to play.
Speaker 1: Then I can see that, like if for guys of value,
Speaker 1: And I'm not quite sure. I don't think it might
Speaker 1: change now where you have actually the younger players that
Speaker 1: want to rally up and speacause now teams are definitely
Speaker 1: getting younger. So I don't know, man, I think that
Speaker 1: would be an interesting situation. But didn't never cross your mind? No?
Speaker 1: Did what did you think? But but did you? Did
Speaker 1: you did you know of the history of the team name,
Speaker 1: did it bother you? Did you ever think about it?
Speaker 1: Or did you just this is a team I'm on.
Speaker 1: It's been signed off by the NFL. I put the
Speaker 1: uniform in New Jersey on. I know they've been protests,
Speaker 1: but did did it ever cross your mind or were
Speaker 1: you ever conscious of it or not? I mean I'm
Speaker 1: assuming no, no, most players. I definitely yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: definitely have been aware of it, and especially my mother's side,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a deep rooted Native American history there.
Speaker 1: I'm all narragance. It is the tribe that based out
Speaker 1: of Rhode Island. My great my great great grandmother, Helen Adams,
Speaker 1: she was one of the first members of the tribe.
Speaker 1: Member did She passed away around one hundred and five. Um,
Speaker 1: so she lived a long time. You've seen a lot.
Speaker 1: So personally, I've been to the reservation about one time,
Speaker 1: and so I was I'm not gonna be the one
Speaker 1: to feel extremely personally attacked because I haven't been practicing
Speaker 1: that side of the family's Native American ways. So, but
Speaker 1: I do believe that, yes, it is is wrong and offensive,
Speaker 1: and it's just sometimes man is like, where do I
Speaker 1: go about it? What? What? What do I what do
Speaker 1: I really do about it? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I understand the history as of late, but
Speaker 1: historically as a football fan, you know it was just
Speaker 1: the Washington resin Reskin, So that's all we knew. I
Speaker 1: think one thing that's good, and you saw this, whether
Speaker 1: you agree with him or not. I like the recognition
Speaker 1: that he was showing was Kyrie Irving when he said
Speaker 1: maybe the players shouldn't play. I like the recognition of
Speaker 1: the power of the black athletes. And we've seen it
Speaker 1: in college yeas college teams. I like a university Missouri
Speaker 1: they said we're not playing until something's done about this president.
Speaker 1: The regular students had been trying to get him removed
Speaker 1: for weeks, if not months. He was gone in three days.
Speaker 1: And that's Missouri. That's not even Alabama or LSU or
Speaker 1: a powerhouse. And so I think one thing going forward,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad to kind of see this recognition by
Speaker 1: the African American athletes today. They got a ton of
Speaker 1: power because I guarantee you if if a group of
Speaker 1: black players, if thirty black players on the Ranskins had
Speaker 1: said we're not playing because of this team name, they
Speaker 1: would have to change it. They would have had to
Speaker 1: change it. And so that's that's a recognition that you know,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of power because the game can't
Speaker 1: be can't really go on without without African Americans. But
Speaker 1: let's move on. I was gonna say yeah, And the
Speaker 1: other party wanted to get to what of course, the
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes contract, which on face value look great while
Speaker 1: half a billion dollars, but then when they peeled back
Speaker 1: the onion a little bit, it's not as attractive as
Speaker 1: maybe one with thought. And he's committed now for twelve
Speaker 1: years and there's no out for him. It's the team
Speaker 1: has total control. Where are you? Did you look at
Speaker 1: the the numbers and and is this a smart deal? Uh?
Speaker 1: For Patrick Mahomes because basically he didn't bet on himself.
Speaker 1: He's allowing the Chiefs to control his destiny. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I do know. Um, when Jim Bretfich first saw him,
Speaker 1: he pretty much fell in love. Mahomes was like, he's
Speaker 1: this deal. He's not going anywhere. So I knew that
Speaker 1: was his guy, um the whole time in the draft,
Speaker 1: and it so happens that he went and got him.
Speaker 1: But um, you can see it. They to take care
Speaker 1: of financially. I mean the hard thing is as Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes as a just as a professional athlete, you do
Speaker 1: you do want security, you know, um, and right now
Speaker 1: what he's what he has done in this short amount
Speaker 1: of time, he's already statue ready for Kansas City. And
Speaker 1: if you can try to be there and have that
Speaker 1: city be yours, similar to what Russell Wilson did in Seattle, Um,
Speaker 1: I can see that. And as as a team as
Speaker 1: an owner, I mean, this is my opinion, he's probably
Speaker 1: the probably the greatest. I would say he is the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback that I had seen skill wise ever. And
Speaker 1: that's just something that's just something you just try to
Speaker 1: hold on too, don't let go. But for Patrick ma Holmes,
Speaker 1: um Man, I don't know. I can't. I can't really,
Speaker 1: I don't want to dig and just look at this
Speaker 1: bad But I just knew when the number was so
Speaker 1: large that yeah, there's probably definitely some things in there,
Speaker 1: um where we're not seeing the fine print. Will about Mahomes,
Speaker 1: Randy Moss said yesterday that he could be the greatest
Speaker 1: quarterback we've ever seen. Where are you out on that?
Speaker 1: Not yet? Obviously he's got to win more, But no,
Speaker 1: I completely agree though, But I just even he's already
Speaker 1: done more in three years that most quarterbacks has done
Speaker 1: has on the whole type career, And for him, it's
Speaker 1: just it's just all downhill because Okay, you you got
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, you got the MVP, you got the
Speaker 1: massive contract. Now you're just out there playing ball, you know.
Speaker 1: And what's scary about him is I think I'm a shop.
Speaker 1: He mentioned that he's still learning how to read defenses
Speaker 1: like he just started it just he just started last year.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I just feel like this is a
Speaker 1: situation where, Okay, yeah, you might have guys that are
Speaker 1: gonna have contracts extensions coming up, and maybe the team
Speaker 1: won't be able to afford them, maybe they will. Um,
Speaker 1: but this is this is the place where you can
Speaker 1: plug and play certain guys that have hands, in speed,
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have to be a first round receiver
Speaker 1: or like that. You can develop them. So um yeah,
Speaker 1: got a minute, We got a minute left. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: assume he stays there for the full twelve years in
Speaker 1: Kansas City. How many Super Bowl rings does he have
Speaker 1: by then? And he's got the one already, obviously, I
Speaker 1: would say I said that he has probably two more
Speaker 1: in him, two or three more in him. All right, given,
Speaker 1: at least given that's given, he still has Andy Reid
Speaker 1: on one signer respect gold and the other. Okay, if
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Reid, I'm not going anywhere. Well, but Andy
Speaker 1: Reid might not have he might not have control. He's
Speaker 1: he's an older man. He might not careful and might
Speaker 1: but Andy Reid might not have the desire anymore. The
Speaker 1: biggest thing for him, Yeah, the biggest thing for him
Speaker 1: was to get that damn ring. Yeah, exactly, and who
Speaker 1: he's a genius now. But Andy Reid was a failure
Speaker 1: for a long time and could never win a big game.
Speaker 1: He finally got it done. Yeah, it wasn't for miraculous
Speaker 1: quarter come back. He can't get it done. But that's
Speaker 1: not to be said. Maybe his successor is the anime
Speaker 1: and maybe he'll stay as an advisory. That's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: But Sammy Bockins, you saw he took it looks like
Speaker 1: a five million dollar pay cut to stay in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Do you you I mean you burned the league. He
Speaker 1: said he wants to win. He was in you know, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: been in some losing situations. He really was that important
Speaker 1: to him to win. Where are you at you you like,
Speaker 1: I mean, like you would you make that type of deal? Well,
Speaker 1: you know the guys taking sacrifices like Sammy Walkin, like
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. It's like these you know, these guys have
Speaker 1: been fortunate to whereas they they were paid. You know
Speaker 1: already Sam Walkings the first one, pick Cam, first on
Speaker 1: pick Cam got a brand new deal. Sammy got a
Speaker 1: really really good he made. Yeah. So now now you're
Speaker 1: at the point where you just want to win. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have money. I want to win, period, right, all right,
Speaker 1: makes you guys continue to do that, will make all
Speaker 1: the money. You guys keep taking the discount perspective. Ulus.
Speaker 1: Next time I see you, you're gonna buy me double
Speaker 1: wings since you have so much money. I didn't say.
Speaker 1: I didn't say I was thinking of pay cut I should.
Speaker 1: I understand why. People. Here's the thing with Rob Will.
Speaker 1: He doesn't understand there's a salary cap in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He doesn't understand that. So that's where some of his
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He doesn't understand winning. Oh, I've won every
Speaker 1: level I've been on. What are you talking about? Will?
Speaker 1: Black men? That Will? Great stuff? Man? Thanks a lot,
Speaker 1: all right, thank you guys,