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Speaker 3: So you're a real estate developer and you've done a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff in New York, right, that would lend
Speaker 3: me to believe that you may know another real estate
Speaker 3: developer that has done a lot of stuff in New York
Speaker 3: named Donald Trump. I'm assuming you know him, right?
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay? What is he racist? What's your take?
Speaker 3: Like, what's your personal what is your personal opinion on
Speaker 3: Donald Trump? Because the things that we see are disturbing
Speaker 3: a lot of times, right, But I'm always interested to
Speaker 3: know what people that actually know somebody, what their thought
Speaker 3: process on that person is I don't.
Speaker 4: Think that Donald Trump is any more racist than Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: And fact, I think his policies have been less oppressive
Speaker 4: to our people than Biden's. For example, in nineteen ninety
Speaker 4: four Crime Bill, I just can't get over that. I think,
Speaker 4: you know, Senator than Senator Biden advocated for that, and
Speaker 4: then before that the nineteen eighty six mandatory sentencing that
Speaker 4: led to the mass incarceration of primarily black men.
Speaker 1: So I don't think.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got a very cordial and friendly relationship
Speaker 4: with Lald Trump.
Speaker 1: He's done nothing but treat me with respect.
Speaker 4: He has never said anything contrary or negative about you know,
Speaker 4: black Americans.
Speaker 1: To me, the only thing he.
Speaker 4: Is ever when the topic of black Americans comes up,
Speaker 4: it's a question from him, how can he be more
Speaker 4: supportive of black entrepreneurs and what can he do to
Speaker 4: get black voters to take a closer look at him
Speaker 4: and his candidacy. And I've told him, I think it's
Speaker 4: got to be running through economic opportunity. So no, I
Speaker 4: don't think that, you know, he's a racist. I do
Speaker 4: think that how people approach race in America has evolved
Speaker 4: over time. I mean when I was in high school.
Speaker 4: Just to give you a perspective, I went to my
Speaker 4: last few years of high schools. I was a page
Speaker 4: for the House of Representatives. I went to school from
Speaker 4: six in the morning of ten thirty and the top
Speaker 4: four of the Library of Congress and went across the
Speaker 4: street to the US Capital work And I did that
Speaker 4: for two Yearshigh school. My last few years, we used
Speaker 4: to have visiting senators and congressmen. Every week they'd come
Speaker 4: and speak to the school. So one time it was
Speaker 4: Robert Burr. He was a majority leader of the United
Speaker 4: States Senate, a Democrat, and so we all would do
Speaker 4: research on who's coming that week, and so we could
Speaker 4: ask him in tell a new questions. Well, Robert Burr,
Speaker 4: but was a former ku Kux Klan member. He was
Speaker 4: a member of the ku Klux clan in West Virginia,
Speaker 4: and he had become the majority leader of the United
Speaker 4: States Senate. And his response to that was, back then
Speaker 4: that was what people did you know in West Virginia.
Speaker 4: They joined the Kukluff plan. I found that to be
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think anybody disputes it. That's a
Speaker 4: very racist organization. But he became the leader of the
Speaker 4: US Senate and did that through the nineteen eighties, so people,
Speaker 4: if the party lets him revolve, I just don't understand
Speaker 4: what this hang up is with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: We should be looking at.
Speaker 4: Donald Trump as a president who's pro business. What will
Speaker 4: he do to provide economic opportunities for African Americans. His
Speaker 4: view of America and his view of US is dated.
Speaker 4: He's almost eighty years old, so his perspective is a
Speaker 4: little different and or a lot different, say than others.
Speaker 4: But I don't think that he's an outright racist. I
Speaker 4: think that he is, you know, somebody that if he wins,
Speaker 4: his president that we're going to need to do business with.
Speaker 4: And we ought to be getting him to talk about
Speaker 4: his policies before a vote, so you can have him
Speaker 4: on We can have him on record as a candidate
Speaker 4: saying what he will do had he should he win.
Speaker 4: And I think he has a good chance of winning
Speaker 4: and being president again. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 4: it's important for us that we get to be able
Speaker 4: to have our agenda moved forward and not put it
Speaker 4: on hold just because as a Republican president, I mean
Speaker 4: before nineteen sixty, before John Kennedy, Black voters were Republican.
Speaker 4: Martin Luther King Sr. Was a Republican and the first
Speaker 4: Democrat he ever endorsed with John Kennedy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do have to.
Speaker 5: Have a little bit of pushback. So he does not
Speaker 5: want to say sorry for what happened with the Central
Speaker 5: Park five. His father historically was discriminatory and who he
Speaker 5: will let rent police community for black and brown lives
Speaker 5: that are taken by police. Now I agree him and
Speaker 5: Joe are probably on par but is it fair to
Speaker 5: say that he's not a racist at all when he's
Speaker 5: clearly I mean, he started the whole He took the
Speaker 5: tea party to the next level with MAGA, which I
Speaker 5: think is inflammatory, say the least. So are you said that,
Speaker 5: Do you think that equally racist or Trump isn't racist
Speaker 5: at all?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, first of all, I mean, look, the
Speaker 4: last thing I want to do is be, you know,
Speaker 4: Donald Trump's advocate. But let me I want to say
Speaker 4: a couple of things. One the Central Park five, Donald
Speaker 4: Trump had no impact on the outcome of that case.
Speaker 4: Those young men were try arrested for a Heina's crime,
Speaker 4: tried and convicted in an unfair criminal justice system. But
Speaker 4: up until that point, the perception was that that was
Speaker 4: a fair system and they were convicted, and then Trump
Speaker 4: advocated for the death penalty for a Heina's crime that
Speaker 4: people were convicted of.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't believe in the I don't believe.
Speaker 4: In the death penalty because for the very fact that
Speaker 4: had those young men been executed, that they could not
Speaker 4: have been released and a mistake made and it cost
Speaker 4: him their lives. So I think he was wrong to
Speaker 4: advocate for the death penalty. But Joe Biden, with a
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four crime build in the nineteen eighty six
Speaker 4: manatory sentence in Guideline, is responsible for five hundred thousand
Speaker 4: plus young black men incarcerated and their lives ruined. So
Speaker 4: I think that that and he actually was a champion
Speaker 4: of the laws that created that mass incarcegration. So I
Speaker 4: think that is a very different thing rhetoric versus actual
Speaker 4: action with regards to you know, what people's fathers do.
Speaker 4: That I mean, so we could eliminate most white Americans
Speaker 4: in this country if we help them accountable for what
Speaker 4: their parents have done. By the way, Joe Biden is
Speaker 4: yet to apologize for the nineteen ninety four crime build
Speaker 4: he got percent that he should have and and he didn't.
Speaker 4: And uh, and so I think that you know so,
Speaker 4: and look, I think that yeah. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: some of his police policies are are wrong and they
Speaker 4: are oppressive to our young people. But a part of
Speaker 4: why our young people are even involved in the criminal
Speaker 4: justice system is this lack of opportunity. This country has
Speaker 4: deserted us when it comes to economic opportunity, and we've
Speaker 4: got to do whatever is necessary to bring economic opportunity
Speaker 4: and educational opportunity to our young people. What you all
Speaker 4: are doing in terms of financial literacy to our people
Speaker 4: is one of the greatest services that you can do
Speaker 4: for Black Americans, educating our people about economic policy. This
Speaker 4: is a democracy, but it's a capitalistic democracy, and our
Speaker 4: democracy rest on the pillars of capitalism. So if we're
Speaker 4: outside of capitalism, we really aren't even participants in our democracy.
Speaker 1: So I think that's got to be our issue.
Speaker 4: And so I mean, do we want to alienate and
Speaker 4: not want to do business with Trump if he wins,
Speaker 4: If he loses, you move on, and we do business
Speaker 4: with Harris. And we've got to hold her accountable. But
Speaker 4: if she thinks she's got us all to herself. She's
Speaker 4: focusing on the other persuadables, if you will. We need
Speaker 4: her to focus on an economic agenda for our people.
Speaker 4: And she has some issues with regards to incarcerating black men,
Speaker 4: a smaller number, by the way, it's been way overstated,
Speaker 4: but in terms of like putting young black men in
Speaker 4: jail for you know, you know, marijuana possession, non violent
Speaker 4: you know issues here people that the Republicans have been
Speaker 4: saying it's tens of thousands. It's less than two thousand,
Speaker 4: but I mean, and then of those who went to jail,
Speaker 4: it's about twenty percent.
Speaker 1: So all wrong, but not in the magnitude.
Speaker 4: But I think we need everybody to compete for our vote,
Speaker 4: just like everybody else does.
Speaker 1: I agree. You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't be emotional. I agree with you. You can't
Speaker 3: be emotional in business and in politics. And like you said,
Speaker 3: I mean, if racism was a was a disqualifying factor,
Speaker 3: and we wouldn't even we would never even have a
Speaker 3: president other than Barack Obama for the most part. Right,
Speaker 3: So right, yeah, you got to take emotion out of it,
Speaker 3: and you have to deal with people and have to
Speaker 3: hold every single person accountable and You can't get caught
Speaker 3: up in emotions just because you like one person or
Speaker 3: you dislike another person. That's vitally important.
Speaker 1: I think an.
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