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Speaker 3: So you're a real estate developer and you've done a

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Speaker 3: named Donald Trump. I'm assuming you know him, right?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Okay? What is he racist? What's your take?

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Speaker 3: Like, what's your personal what is your personal opinion on

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Speaker 4: Think that Donald Trump is any more racist than Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: And fact, I think his policies have been less oppressive

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Speaker 4: then before that the nineteen eighty six mandatory sentencing that

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Speaker 1: So I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've got a very cordial and friendly relationship

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Speaker 1: He's done nothing but treat me with respect.

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Speaker 4: He has never said anything contrary or negative about you know,

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump as a president who's pro business. What will

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Speaker 4: He's almost eighty years old, so his perspective is a

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Speaker 4: But I don't think that he's an outright racist. I

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Speaker 4: And we ought to be getting him to talk about

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Speaker 4: before nineteen sixty, before John Kennedy, Black voters were Republican.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I do have to.

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Speaker 5: Have a little bit of pushback. So he does not

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Speaker 5: think is inflammatory, say the least. So are you said that,

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Speaker 5: Do you think that equally racist or Trump isn't racist

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't believe in the I don't believe.

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Speaker 4: I think that that and he actually was a champion

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Speaker 4: think that is a very different thing rhetoric versus actual

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Speaker 4: yet to apologize for the nineteen ninety four crime build

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Speaker 4: are oppressive to our young people. But a part of

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Speaker 4: why our young people are even involved in the criminal

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Speaker 4: are doing in terms of financial literacy to our people

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Speaker 1: So I think that's got to be our issue.

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Speaker 4: And so I mean, do we want to alienate and

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Speaker 4: If he loses, you move on, and we do business

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Speaker 4: with Harris. And we've got to hold her accountable. But

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Speaker 4: And she has some issues with regards to incarcerating black men,

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Speaker 1: So all wrong, but not in the magnitude.

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Speaker 4: But I think we need everybody to compete for our vote,

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Speaker 4: just like everybody else does.

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Speaker 1: I agree. You can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't be emotional. I agree with you. You can't

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Speaker 3: be emotional in business and in politics. And like you said,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if racism was a was a disqualifying factor,

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Speaker 3: So right, yeah, you got to take emotion out of it,

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Speaker 6: Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are

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Speaker 6: at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over one hundred

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