1 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: The case to find Elizabeth Thomas has gone cold, and 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: now law enforcement is hoping to widen the net to 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: bring Elizabeth vote. We really need the public to realize 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: that this young girl is in danger. This is Crime 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Elizabeth was last seen in Columbia. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Investigators say that she is with Tad Cummins. T v 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: I says the Cummins was a teacher. She's fifteen, he's fifty. 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: He's now facing a charge in which the district attorney 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: has confirmed her to be the victim. Investigators are now 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: going on the theory that Cummins has taken Elizabeth, either 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: to an area outside the public or outside the Southeast. 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: They're missing. They could be anywhere. We want her home. 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: We want him and custody. If you see them, don't 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: approach them. Commons maybe arms. Amber alert Amber Alert Tennessee 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Amber alert is an effect a missing girl is with 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: a school teacher and he has wanted for sex with 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: the student. This Tennessee girl goes missing. Authorities believe she 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: is with a fifty year old school teacher. The FBI 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: is so concerned they have joined in the search for 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Thomas. Now many believe that because she knew the teacher, 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: she got into his vehicle willingly. That makes no difference. 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: A child does not have the ability to consent. The teacher, 23 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: fifty year old Tad Cummings. We believe that he picked 24 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: her up at a Morie County, Tennessee restaurant and took off. 25 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: And there's more bad news. The Amber alerts issued in 26 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: both Tennessee and Alabama. But I have reason to believe 27 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: this guy could be headed to Florida for this little girl. 28 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: A warrant for the arrest of Tad Cummings for sex 29 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: contact with a minor. The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation has 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: received dozens of tips so far, and they've gotten their 31 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: hands on surveillance footage from a gas station where Tad 32 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: Cummings refueled his vehicle before fleeing with the girl. Here's 33 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: a problem. Another problem, Cummings has the cash to continue 34 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: refueling without stopping to use his a t M. He 35 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have to use a credit card. How do we 36 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: know this because we have learned from police sources he 37 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: actually went and took a title loan for his car 38 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: days before he disappeared, getting nearly five thousand dollars in 39 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: cash alone against his car. He is driving a silver 40 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: Nissan Rogue Tennessee tag nine seven six Z zebra pte 41 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania T toy nine having six z p t For 42 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: all you truckers listening to this podcast now, please help 43 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: us bring this girl home. T B I says, silver 44 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: Nissan Rogue Tennessee tag nine seven six z zebra pe 45 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania T toy. He is armed with two handguns. Do 46 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: not approach Tad Cummings. Please help us bring this girl home. 47 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories and with me 48 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Alan Duke, investigative reporter. Alan, have you looked at his Twitter? 49 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: I am oh, what do you see? But Alan, wait, wait, 50 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: wait before we divulge what we've learned on this freak's 51 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: Twitter account. And he is a teacher. He is a teacher. 52 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: For Pete's sake. I want to thank Simply Safe as 53 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: always for being our sponsor today and helping us get 54 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: the word out about the Amber alert of this beautiful 55 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: young girl. This little girl goes missing and now we 56 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: have reason to believe she has been groomed by this 57 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: high school teacher to get in his car. And we 58 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: know now he is one of her sex contact with 59 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: the minor. Now, how did they figure that out? Maybe 60 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: through her devices, maybe through her computer. He's been charged 61 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: with that and he's on the run, and I have 62 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: reason to believe he's not headed to Alabama, but to Florida. 63 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: Back to simply Safe. 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It keeps not only your home and possessions, 73 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: but your family safe. Go to simply safe dot com 74 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: slash Nancy for another ten percent off. Simply say thank 75 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: you for letting our Amber Alert podcast be created. Now, Alan, 76 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: I want to go back to this freak Tad Cummings 77 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: Twitter account. What did you learn? I'm looking at it 78 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna let you describe it. Well, first 79 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 1: of all, how does it don't drag Jesus into yet 80 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: another felony. Okay, keep him out of this. I just 81 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: just let me mention the very first self description he 82 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: has is Jesus freak child of the King. I won't 83 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: mention Jesus again. Won't drag Jesus into this. Husband and 84 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait, husband, husband's married is worse? Father, grandfather, 85 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: high school teacher, clinician, drummer, audio tech, a jeep owner, singer, songwriter, 86 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: and a warrior poet? What warrior poet? Apparently he likes 87 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: to write poetry. A warrior poet, a poet who he's 88 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: quite the renaissance man really is? This is the other 89 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: thing that I find by looking at his tweets. That's 90 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: what he is. A Apparently he was the sponsor of 91 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: the organization that is the Future Health Professionals in the 92 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: high school in Marie County, Tennessee, where he was up 93 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: until very recently and when he was fired a teacher. 94 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Cummins wife, Jill Cummins, made a public plea at a 95 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: news conference Friday afternoon, asking her husband to give up 96 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: and bring the girl home. This is not who you are. 97 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: We can help you get through this, no matter how 98 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: far you've gone or what's happening right now. God's grace 99 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: is sufficient for you, and he wants you to come home. 100 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: Your family wants their Poppy back. Please do the right 101 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: thing and turn yourself into the police and bring Beth home. 102 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: To those of you in the media, thank you for 103 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: helping to spread the word. Help us get to get 104 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: this message out as far as we can, because we 105 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: need help to find Pad and Beth and to bring 106 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: them home safely. Thank you and God bless you. Know 107 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: what's really I'm really looking in this old drummer, singer, songwriter, 108 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: warrior poet thing. Have you ever noticed how many oldster 109 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: as adults I like to talk about when they were 110 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: a quote hippie. I used to be a hippie, and 111 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: now I show a photo of themselves to say, like 112 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: at a concert or at Woodstock, that's their claim to fame, 113 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: they used to be a hippie. Okay, so that's kind 114 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: of this guy's mindset, but it's it's inconsistent. Husband, father, grandfather, 115 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: school teacher, drummer, warrior, poet, singer, songwriter. Okay, there are 116 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: a lot of clues in here as to what he 117 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: might be up to where he might be going. I'm 118 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: looking at who he follows on Twitter. He follows one 119 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: of the most beautiful coming guests, a bunch of little girls. Well, 120 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: i'm looking. I haven't found that he's following the Twitter 121 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: account for the Gulf Shores, Alabama. You've been down there. 122 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've. You've taken the twins down to those 123 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: beautiful beach Well, wait a minute. You know, my dad 124 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: was from Hayti, Alabama, which is near Sampson, which is 125 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: near Mobile, which is near the Florida Panhandle. Is like 126 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: the whitest beaches you have ever seen. There's so white 127 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: sand beaches. They're just beautiful. So tell me your extrapolation 128 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: from seeing him following the Panhandle. He also tweets about 129 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: Panama City Beach. Oh wait a minute, Wait a minute. 130 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: I said he may not be headed towards Alabama. He 131 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: could be headed toward Alabama to get to the Panhandle. 132 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: The Alabama coast and the Florida Coast. The Redneck Riviera, 133 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: which I practically grew up on, is filled right now 134 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: with fifteen year olds and teachers because it's spring break. 135 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: Spring break in a lot of the Southeast right now, 136 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: and it is the time where they all take the 137 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: road trip and they fill up on the sand of 138 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: those beaches. Well wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm looking at 139 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: something June eighteen, two thousand sixteen. I think the best 140 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: photo I took on our PCB Panama City beach trip 141 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: this week. You know what, You're right? So he goes 142 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: he has taken this girl to the beach road trip. 143 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: That's where they are. He has taken this little girl 144 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: to the beach. He's already had charges filed against him 145 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: for sex with miners. Catch this post. A teacher is 146 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: never a giver of truth. He is a guide, a 147 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: pointer to the truth that each student must find for himself. 148 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Now true, he stole that from Bruce Lee, but that's 149 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: his mantra. What else do we next? Well, he follows 150 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about Jesus. He also follows the 151 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: Dali Lama. So there is that I'm looking at who's 152 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: following him? And he does have some apparently high school 153 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: girls following him on Twitter. I'm not going to name 154 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: any names, but thank you. He travels around to these 155 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: future health professional events. Were you in the four H 156 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,359 Speaker 1: club when you're in high school? I bet you were. 157 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure I was. You know, I was in forage. 158 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: My mother was a master forager, my sister was a 159 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: master forager in forestry. And I was a camp councilor 160 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: at the National Forage Center Rock Eagle in Eatonton, Georgia, 161 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: where I was a hiker hight master. I've been up 162 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: to Rock Eagle myself, probably saw you. So what are 163 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: you trying to tell I'm telling you he would take 164 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: these trips, these weekend trips to various events and competitions, 165 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: and he posted some of the pictures on Twitter. Now 166 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: you know, it's freaking me out just what you're saying. 167 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking at all these little girls smiling in these 168 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: pictures where he's taken them on trips. I don't like it. Well, 169 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: is he currently married, married, he's a husband, a father, 170 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: a grandfather. Yes, and he's fifty years old. And look 171 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: at this guy. He just looks like the high school teacher. 172 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: But he is a He looks a lot older than fifty. 173 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: I can tell you know. Okay, let's talk about what 174 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: we know. Let's get back on track to what we know. 175 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Tell me about the disappearance. Tell me what we know. 176 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: The mechanics of the disappearance. This young lady, and we're 177 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: using her name. She's on the poster. It's Elizabeth Thomas. 178 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: She's fifteen years old, a high school student. A friend 179 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: of hers dropped her off at the Show Knees. The 180 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: Shownees is a popular restaurant in Columbia with the big boy. 181 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: We used to be the big boy left shown. Yeah, 182 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: I hate that, but that happened thirty years ago. Nancy 183 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: good Grief, Well, I still hate it. Hate lives. I 184 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: hated it. And plus it's a tribute to my longtime 185 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: friend from Court TV, Helen Luketis. She collected good boys 186 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: and we you know, the little statuettes, and we would 187 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: travel all over covering cases for Court TV and she 188 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: would go to show Knees and get a big boy 189 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: at every place she traveled. Okay, so just put the 190 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: kai bosh on bashing big boys. You never collected big 191 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: boys on your travels though, now I didn't. I didn't 192 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: have time to slow down and stop at Shownees. But 193 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: go ahead. So she's opped off by friend at seven 194 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. We know that he shows up 195 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: next door. Now I've looked at the map on this 196 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: you see surveillance video, the security camera video of the 197 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: gas station, the shell station right next door to the 198 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: shown Yeah, he pulls in and he gets gas for 199 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: this car that we've got the lookout for. He doesn't 200 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: go inside. He uses a card. He goes up, uses 201 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: a card. It looks like he filled it up because 202 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,239 Speaker 1: he's there for about two minutes pumping, so I calculated 203 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: that he filled that thing up. Then you see him 204 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: turn walk behind his vehicle and look over towards the 205 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: shownies like he's looking for someone. Then he gets into 206 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: his car and drives to the left around the pumps 207 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: and over to the little access street that would take 208 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: him right into the shownies. I'm looking at it right now, 209 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: you guys. You can see the Amber alert video at 210 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: the gas station. You can find it if you go 211 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: to tennessee Amber Alert. Now he is driving his Nissan 212 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: Rogue Silver. Correct, Yes, I see am. I see him 213 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,359 Speaker 1: gassing up right now. I'm trying to find the shownies. 214 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: Where is the shownies in this It is over to 215 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: the left. There's just a little side street that separates them, 216 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: but they're pretty much the same. There he goes, and 217 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: he goes that way. Yes, there he goes This is 218 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: just before he picks her up. Tennessee Bureau of Investigation 219 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: now stating they are extremely concerned about the well being 220 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: of little Elizabeth Thomas. It's an ongoing amber lord out 221 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: of Tennessee and it has been extended. This Moray County, 222 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: Tennessee girl has been missing for a couple of days now, 223 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: and the t b I say they believe she is 224 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: with an armed teacher, Tag Cummings, and a nisan with 225 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: himself and the little girl in the car. He was 226 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: a teacher at a Moray County school where she was 227 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: a student in Columbia, Tennessee. Now, as Alan do was 228 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: just telling you, she was dropped off at the shownees 229 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: that morning by a friend, her parents reporting her missing 230 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: later the same day, let me understand they can place 231 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: the girl in Decatur, Alabama at three oh six pm 232 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Central time. That's two oh six pm Eastern standard. Neither 233 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: has a connection there Decatur, Alabama. Hey, Alan, while you're 234 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: sitting there, can you go on and see map quest this. 235 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: It's eighty miles south of where they left at the shownies. 236 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: Eighty miles on I Okay, My question is where does 237 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: it fit into a trip to PCB Panama City Beach 238 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: directly towards it. It is the route you would take, 239 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: and I think you're right. I think that's where they're going. 240 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: So they were Indicator Alabama. Her name everybody, the little 241 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: girl's name is Elizabeth Thomas, and they're saying they can 242 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: place her Indicator Alabama. How many states away is that? 243 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: He's almost immediately in Alabama after about forty five minutes. 244 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: He's in northern Alabama. Decatur, Alabama is about halfway between 245 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: there in Birmingham. It would have only taken him about 246 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: two hours to get from that Showne's down to Decatur, Alabama. 247 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: They would have left at seven thirty eight o'clock that morning. 248 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't even want well, they would have left at 249 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: about eight thirty five or eight forty if they immediately went, 250 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: and that would have put him there at about ten thirty, 251 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: which means maybe they stopped someplace along the way. No 252 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: one has any credible signings about the whereabouts of either 253 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: of them. There is a disturbingly low number of the 254 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: tip of tips, and the tb I is concerned about that. 255 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: This means the two are staying out of view of 256 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: the public or outside the original net the tb I 257 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: has cast across the southeast, so right now they could 258 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: be anywhere. I'm still betting on Florida. The t b 259 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: I is also trying to track Cummings action in the 260 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: weeks prior to the Amber alert, for instance, securing that 261 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: title loan for his vehicle, getting about five thousand dollars 262 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: for that before they leave. So let's take a look 263 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: at the timeline. Alan a friend drops her off at 264 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: a Shawnees, Columbia, Tennessee. Surveillance video eight thirty two shows 265 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: Cummings at a shell station filling up his Nissan Rogue. 266 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: That's eight thirty two, eight M Central twelve forty one. 267 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: Marie County Sheriff's Department enters the child as missing at 268 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: the n c I S that's the nation's law enforcement 269 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: Internal Communications database. Now, that would be around one o'clock Central, 270 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: two o'clock Eastern. I wonder if that's when the parents 271 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: were realized she's gone. What do you think? I am 272 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: very impressed with the law enforcement reacting so quickly. We 273 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: work with these missing person cases so many times, and 274 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: they have to beg them for a week or so 275 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: to realize this is not a voluntary missing. Well, you know, 276 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: I got a little tip right before the Amber alert 277 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: went out, or just as it went out, from an 278 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: old buddy of mine that I used to work with 279 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: at CNN who's now in Tennessee, asking for help to 280 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: publicize it that she's missing. So I guarantee that's when 281 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: the parents first find out she's not at school. Three 282 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: oh six, Central Info places her indicator Alabama. Next day, 283 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: a full on Amber alert is requested in danger child requested. 284 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: That gets uh and here we go five o'clock about 285 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: the next day, a warrant for his arrest, charging in 286 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: with one count of sexual contact with a minor. Now 287 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: that he has actually is a subject of an arrest warrant, 288 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: it's now finally upgraded to an Amber alert. They must 289 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: have gotten that information from a little friend or from 290 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: one of her devices to confirm they believe that he 291 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: is having sex contact with her. I'm looking at the 292 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: school calendar to see what would have been going on 293 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: this week, Alan hold On, I want to give the 294 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: tip line number very quickly. Nine three, one, three, seven, five, 295 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: eight six five four repeat nine three one three, seven, 296 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: five eight six five four or one eight hundred t B. 297 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: I find t Tennessee b Bureau I Investigations f I 298 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: n D one eight hundred t b I find or 299 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: nine three one three seven five eight six five four. 300 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: So what are you seeing on the school calendar? They 301 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: didn't have school Monday because it was a professional development day, 302 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, the teacher work day, and they did not 303 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: have school there. He maybe didn't have to be there 304 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: on that day, so he got a slip on him 305 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: by being gone right on Monday. And their spring break 306 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: starts on the twenty seven, which is just over a 307 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: week away. That's when spring break is. She is a 308 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: white female, blonde hair, hazel lines five five, weighs just 309 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty pounds, last sing wearing a flannel 310 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: shirt and black leggings. Um He is a white male, 311 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: six ft two hundred pounds, brown hair and eyes, armed 312 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: with two handguns, driving a silver Nissan Rogue with Tennessee 313 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: plates nine seven six Z zebra Pee Pennsylvania t toy. 314 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: Last seen indicator Alabama. So what are they doing beside 315 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: issuing the amber alert? Well, actually, they've put out several 316 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: alerts over the last couple of days to make sure 317 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: that this is nationwide. The big emphasis is on getting 318 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: the word out in other states because they do not 319 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: believe that they're hanging around Tennessee. They want everybody in 320 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: the nation to know that this man with this child 321 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: there apparently on the road. Nancy. On the phone with 322 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: us now is Shane Dieter. He's with w A T 323 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: on TV in Memphis, Tennessee. He's closely following this. Shane, 324 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: what can you tell us the latest on the search 325 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: for Elizabeth. We have learned that earlier in the week 326 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: the car they were driving in was deemed on a 327 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: cell tower in Alabama near the Cator, and since then 328 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: there's been no sign. So that's one of the Tennessee 329 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: Bureau investigations. They've had agets go over there, and of 330 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: course Alabama authorities and the FBI are now helping in 331 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: this search for Elizabeth Thomas. So the cell phone that 332 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: belonged to either of the teacher or to the fifteen 333 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: year old student, one of those two cell phones was 334 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: picked up having been in the area of Decatur, Alabama, 335 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: which is gosh, I guess, about halfway between Columbia and Birmingham, Columbia, 336 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: Tennessee in Birmingham, Alabama. So along Ice sixty five nicle 337 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: won't have ties to the area either. That Route I 338 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: sixty five along that corridor is the way you would 339 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: go southward, let's say, if you're going to Florida and 340 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: the Redneck Riviera, the beaches of Pamama City or or 341 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: around there. I noticed on I don't know if you've 342 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: seen this, but I noticed on Tad Cummings Twitter account. 343 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: Nancy and I both were scanning it and looking at 344 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: it closely. Actually, we saw a lot of pictures from 345 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: down there around the Florida coast, the Northwest Panhandle coast. 346 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: Is that one theory you think that maybe they're headed 347 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: down there PB I hadn't brought that up, And they 348 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: seem to think that they're headed north. But you know, 349 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: it's not like they tell us everything. But if he's 350 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: familiar with the area and it is spring break, that 351 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: would be a great hiding place for a little while 352 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: for them to blend in, because it looked like a 353 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: father and a daughter exactly. He could color his hair 354 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: a little bit or shave his goatee which is kind 355 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: of scraggly anyway, and easily easily blend in down there. 356 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: Because there are tens of or hundreds of thousands of 357 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: high school students and teachers and parents down there on 358 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: the beaches right now. But why would they think they're 359 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: headed north if the telephone, the signal, the cell signal 360 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: was peeinged eighty or ninety miles south of where they 361 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: left from, and they have not told us that, why 362 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: they know that they're not letting out or why they're 363 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: thinking that. The point is that if that's the only 364 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: place the cell phones have been peeinged, you could also 365 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: surmise that maybe the cell phones have been cut off 366 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: because they figure they have to do that in order 367 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: not to be found. Right, And you can tell by 368 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: the way this was put together by Tad Cummings, this 369 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: wasn't a spur of the moment. He planned this. You know, 370 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: he'd been grooming this girl and then you know he 371 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: got a loan for four or five dollars, you know, 372 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: for them to have on the road and to live on. 373 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: You know, he left behind a wife and two kids, 374 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: so I'm sure she's cut off his access the money. 375 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: I bet you they threw away the phones and they 376 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: probably have burner phones or they really don't need to 377 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: contact one either. So well, good point there. I mean, 378 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: you're not going to exactly exactly call people generally and 379 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: let them know where you are, so cut the phones 380 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: off now. The social media accounts for Tad Cummings suggests 381 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: that he was the sponsor of the organization on campus 382 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: for Future Health Professionals. Do you know what he taught? 383 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: What kind of classes he had? PBI has just told 384 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: us that he was one of her teachers, So he 385 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: was her teacher. I looked at some of the photographs. 386 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: It seems that I'm seeing her on his Twitter account 387 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: and some of these organization photos that he's sending out. 388 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just another student who looks a lot like her, 389 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: but it seems that she is in some of his 390 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: tweets from a few months ago, and it looked at 391 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: me that have you seen this? That they traveled a round, 392 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: that he would take groups of young female students on 393 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: field trips, school field trips like perhaps even over the weekend. Yes, 394 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 1: And from what we understand, and that is part of 395 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: what he was doing when he was grooming her. I 396 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: don't know anything about our home life that if you 397 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, even if kids have the best home life, 398 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: if they're battling, you know, their own demons, you know, 399 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: they're so vulnerable to a manipulator such as tag Comings 400 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: coming in their lives. Teachers have tremendous influence on a 401 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: fifteen year old student, and if they're traveling with them 402 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: on field trips and that sort of thing and have 403 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: a lot of contact with them. I guess that's something 404 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: that parents need to always be aware of, right. You know, 405 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: we all know about the monster on the internet and 406 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: how parents need to be checking their kids social media 407 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: and what they're doing and everything, you know, and then 408 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: we go back and look at their social media that 409 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: you know, Liza's Thomas Thomas and Ted comings in. It 410 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: appears that you know, she with his club at school 411 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: and you know she's learning something and she's growing. You 412 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't expect it. A couple other things with the cases. 413 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: Everything in the school district found out about the twenty 414 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: second of January. He I believe the parents were notified 415 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: the twenty seven, so they waited a week of January 416 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: and then February six there was finally a meeting to 417 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: fire comings. To me, it seems like if a school 418 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: district found out about it, you would take care of 419 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: it right then. And the parents are upset that they 420 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: weren't notified. So the timeline is that it was their relationship. 421 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: Their inappropriate relationship was actually discovered by school officials almost 422 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: two months ago, is what you're telling me. Exactly when 423 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: was he fired? February six, He's been away from the 424 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: school for a month, and then on Monday of this week, 425 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: that's when they both just appeared. Right, she had she 426 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: was with a friend who dropped her off at the showing. 427 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: He's there in Columbia, Tennessee, and across the street, Cummins 428 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: was filling up his gas. If you've seen that video 429 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: from that shell station that she walked over and they leave. 430 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: The school calendar suggests to me that Monday was a 431 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: day off for students because it was a professional development 432 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: day for the teachers, a teacher work day. Have you 433 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: seen that? Is that right? Yes? Yes, you know that's what. 434 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: You know. She's spend the night with a friend, she 435 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: had no school, and you know, then the friend dropped 436 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: her off at shown. So far, police haven't said that 437 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: the friend knew anything. Uh, you know, she just thought 438 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: she was dropping her off at shown and she was 439 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna meet someone and go home. And then the police 440 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: didn't you know, the parents that we're listing to lafter 441 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: three o'clock because they really had no idea. Maybe they 442 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: even didn't realize it was a teacher work day, So 443 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: there would be an indication that she was planning or 444 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: is there an indication that she was planning to leave 445 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: that day, that she knew what was up that morning, 446 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: that she had anything packed, or we know anything about 447 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: did she prepare? By looking at the video, I don't 448 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: see her carrying anything. I would like more, you know, 449 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: more proof before I would say she also planned the 450 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: law enforcement or treating her as a victim. Arley, she 451 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: is she fifteen, you know, so I see more. You know, 452 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: I just don't know about that part that she did 453 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: go willingly. He describes himself on social media. On Twitter, 454 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: his platform says he's a father and a grandfather, so 455 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: he's leaving behind the family he is, he is, isn't 456 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: going to take you a long way when you have 457 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna have to come up with a 458 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: fi identything documents to get a job, and you're hiding 459 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old. I have a twitch of your daughter, 460 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: and when she's fifteen, she changed her mind every other 461 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: day about what she liked. Maybe he has other money 462 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: as well, that something saved or something borrowed, and that 463 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: that's not his only resources. That car Loan that he 464 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: took out. But you're right, it wouldn't take you very far. 465 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: But we don't know if they're going very far. So 466 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: we have a huge amber alert out. We're getting a 467 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: lot of attention the national media. Nancy Grace and others 468 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: are paying attention to this. So I suppose there's hope 469 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: that people will be alert and watch out for his car. Yes, 470 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's there are signs describing his Niecean silver 471 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: road with the license plate all up all over the 472 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: country on the you know, the electronic billboards. Police are 473 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: getting leased. They've had eighty so far. None have led 474 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: to anything, but you know they're not leaving, you know, 475 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: stone unturned. They are looking hard, and I just encourage 476 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: anybody if you see a silver Nisan roade, please let 477 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: police know if it has a Tennessee tag, because that 478 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: that's how we're going to find her. And of course, 479 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: if he really planned this thing out, he could have 480 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: had another car someplace else that he was going to 481 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: write a lot of ways to do that, I suppose, 482 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: So if you see a fifty year old man. He 483 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: actually looks like he might even be a little older 484 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: than fifty, didn't seem to take very good care of himself. 485 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: And this fifteen year old girl out and about together 486 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: with the Tennessee tag especially and they're not in Tennessee. 487 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: Be suspicious, be very suspicious. What should people do if 488 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: they think they see Elizabeth Thomas and Tad Cummins the 489 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Tie Bureau of Investigation, they're asking people to call one 490 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: and report it. Do not confront them. If you can't 491 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: keep the eye on him, do it, but do it 492 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: where you do not put yourself in danger. It is 493 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: believed that he's got a couple of guns with him, right, 494 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: a couple of firearms, yes, yes, yes, which you know 495 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: down in this further country that's very common that when 496 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: you didnapped the fifteen year old and you're going to 497 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: face the kind of charges he's gonna face, you know, 498 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: he may not want to go to prison, So just 499 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: be very careful. Calne one one and then the Tense 500 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: Bureau of Investigation. Allen has also a numbers tv I 501 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: fine and you can call and report it there, and 502 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: of course law enforcement will keep you anonymous if you 503 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: still wish to be anonymous. All right, thanks for thanks 504 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: for checking in. We'll keep tabs with this case. Shane 505 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: Dietrich of w a T on TV in Memphis, Tennessee. 506 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much, Allen. Now, the local 507 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: district attorney, Brent Cooper, insists that he believes Cummings is 508 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: staying off public roads and may even have switched out 509 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: of his niece on Roague to another vehicle. The family 510 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: has issued a statement thanking everyone for tips and for 511 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: their continued support to bring their daughter home. They are brokenhearted. 512 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: They ask everyone to continue to share elizabeth story and 513 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: help them bring the girl home. It's just amazing that 514 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: this guy had the trust of all the teachers and 515 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: all the students. Is twitter account is very disturbing on 516 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: many many levels. Alan, I'm looking at all of these 517 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: pictures of these groups of fifteen year old girls approximately 518 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: who he was taking weekend road trips, school trips with you. 519 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: We are on the case, doing all we can. Please 520 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: share the story with your friends, Facebook, it tweeted, Instagram, 521 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: and help us bring this girl home before someone. I 522 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: don't even want to finish the sentence, Alan, because when 523 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: police show up to get this guy, or he realizes 524 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: that they're both going to be caught. I don't know 525 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: what's going to be happen. What's going to happen because 526 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: he's got those two hands. Do you see that posting 527 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: he's somebody? He actually retweeted on Twitter account, his Twitter account, 528 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: I'll read it to you, Yeah, I saw it. The 529 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: fastest way to change the behavior of a lethal threat 530 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: is to shoot them again. To Simply Safe, thank you 531 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: for making this podcast possible. As we continue to be 532 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: vigilant to find Elizabeth and to pray for her family, 533 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: simply say thank you for keeping our homes safe. Go 534 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: to simply safe dot com. Eyes and ears open in 535 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: the search for Elizabeth, Nancy Gray's crime story, signing off 536 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: goodbye friend,