WEBVTT - Just Blow & Scream 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:06.200 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:10.320 Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.560 I'm strong and get and he. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:33.640 Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.840 Okay, good. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:46.640 Katie. 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.040 You're gonna have to explain to us what the hell 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:53.000 this is we're hearing here. So apparently there's this internet 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.960 trend going on, an internet trend. You say it's an 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:56.720 internet trend. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.920 And apparently if you exhale all the way, get all 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:01.800 the air completely out of your lungs, and then you 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:03.840 try to scream, you make some form of a noise 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:04.120 like that. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.959 Okay, gotcha, the exhale and scream challenge. I'll do that 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.480 with my kids today for fun. Take a video, let 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.600 us know what it goes. I'll do it with one 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:14.360 of my kids. My high school kid is no longer 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:20.920 interested in anything whimsical. He is just gloom. Teenager. What 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.920 the official uniform of teenager? Though? 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.040 The whole reason I disgust, I wanted to see if 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:28.320 Michelangelo could do it. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.840 Michael, do that for us on Mike. Exhale completely, then 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.480 try to scream, Okay, here we go, here we go. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.400 Oh you took you in, healed you didn't. You didn't 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:49.000 exhale enough either, it completely exhaed. Okay, no, you inhaled again. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:57.160 You can't in here, I'm took blew out. Then you 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:57.960 took a breath. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.280 Okay, me blow I'm gonna just nothing but blow out completely. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:03.600 Don't take a breath in. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:09.120 You took it. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:15.000 You I never mind never I don't understand. I'm just 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:15.639 going out. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:16.519 That's the why I excel. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:22.920 You do not take a breath. You are taking the 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:29.880 fact that you're not following these instructions is I'm just 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.919 blow out, right, Okay, Katie, we gotta go. No, We're 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:34.840 not gonna go through this again. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.480 Michael, Michael, you blow out, you go and then you 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.720 go and then you scream. 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:41.280 You're not supposed. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:45.960 To leave out to last try Okay, so just blow 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.680 and scream, but but don't write. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:56.640 Okay, all right, okay, all right, everywhere, So earlier, earlier, 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.960 all right, Katie, for the podcast you need to do. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.040 I want to hear you try to do it. Okay, podcast. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.800 You know, the only thing I took away from that 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:10.040 is how incredibly infectious laughter is listening to those numb skulls. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:14.760 Try to do the numbskullish challenge of the day. But 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:19.120 they're all laughing, so you just can't help but you know, giggle. Anyway, 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.720 I talked about this earlier today. I think it was 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:27.160 our two. Maybe some economists have finally woken up to 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:34.040 the fact that human beings are not like computerized decision makers. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.240 There are all sorts of things that enter into economics. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:42.840 In particular, as Nobel Prize winning economist George Akerloff and 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.960 his collaborator Rachel Cranton said wrote years and years ago, 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.600 identity may be the most important economic decision people make, 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.720 and it has to do with how you see yourself, 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.960 how you want to project an identity, what group of 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.480 people do you consider yourself part of? And you make 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:06.560 all sorts of economic decisions based on not rational analysis, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:07.400 but identity. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.280 If I had known this was part of economics when 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.680 I was in college, I could have easily made it 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.520 my life. I only took microeconomics, which I hated. I mean, 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.640 it's obviously got its value supply to my O, etcetera. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.159 But if I'd have known all this other stuff that 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.839 I find so fascinating about economics was part of it, 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.680 I would have man, I would have eaten that up yeah, what. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.159 Would you call it psychoeconomics, socioeconomics or something like that. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:37.120 But they gave the example of an academic economist, not coincidentally, 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.400 that's who we're talking about. That would be a social category, 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.920 and that's the way they would see themselves or part 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.880 of that group whatever. So they probably own a practical 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.760 car and wear comfortable shoes, and if they showed up 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.400 in a portion nine to eleven or a pair of 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.000 five hundred dollars loafers, they would all not only feel 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:55.880 like they were putting on airs, but they'd probably be 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:00.880 mocked and scorned by colleagues. In traditional economics, it's hard 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.640 to rationalize why anyone would care so much about what 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:08.080 shoes I walk in wearing right, or what car I drive, 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.560 But that that really affects decisions they go into. 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.880 Like individual when you go to buy a pair of 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:22.360 shoes or a car, practically anything, certainly anything, anybody's going 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:28.920 to observe. The options are not wide open for most people. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:33.760 They're limited to your identity. It has to shit into 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.400 that world of your identity, which is interesting. We don't 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.440 see ourselves that way. I think most people like to 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.640 see themselves as no I could wear any kind of footwear. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.039 It's completely up to me. I'm my own person. But no, 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.320 it fits into a view you heavy of yourself, where 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:49.960 you want other people to have of you, or you 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:50.920 think you have whatever. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.880 And then they talk about individual gains from both material 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.000 outcomes and actions that conform to their identities blah blah blah, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.359 and labor markets workers or motived by wages, of course, 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.000 but also by how well their job aligns with their identities. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.760 They give the example of a corporate job might offer 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.080 financial stability, but if it conflicts with an individual's identity 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:15.520 is an environmentalist, for instance, that's going to lead to 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.760 satisfaction and underperformance in this vein, trying to train coal 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.960 miners to be nurses may be feudal. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:23.920 And Jack, I love the idea you gave when we 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:28.359 were talking about this. If you remember, I don't you said, 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.240 trying to train farmers because the family farmers disappearing to 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.039 be coders, have them sit in a cubicle ten hours 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.400 a day to code, they would hang themselves. Yeah, and 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.080 you hear politicians throw that around all the time, like 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:44.920 you can just retrain people that have been a certain 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.920 sort of person to be a completely different sort of person. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.520 And as the point of what you're saying is, it's 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:52.839 not just about the money. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.160 So there's other research by a couple of guys you've 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.520 never heard of to provide a granular look into the 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.640 mechanics of this phenomenon. DOTI is based on lab experiments 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.960 that prime subjects to see different parts of their identities. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.200 Is especially salient demonstrate that people may out for lower 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.480 paying jobs if it means greater congruence or you know, 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.240 fitting in with their social group, or might choose consumer 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:18.200 goods that signal affiliation to a particular identity despite higher 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.480 costs and no higher quality. We see that all the 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.880 time in fashion police. So they go into that at 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.400 some length, and it's very very interesting. We'll post link 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.560 at Armstrong and getty dot com under hot links. But 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:38.360 then let's see that they go more deeply into that 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:43.080 diverges from traditional notions of comparative advantage typically applied to 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.040 countries or firms. I met with several well known psychologists, 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.560 writs this journalist across the country. Many assume that heredity 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.680 largely dictated the identities to. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:52.800 Which people gravitated. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.920 We investigated the academic paths chosen by students in racially 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:02.760 and socioeconomically diverse schools. We found that students often align 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.320 their academic efforts with what they perceive to be their 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:10.960 comparative advantages. Interesting, and this is something that we and 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.480 others have observed through the years, and people are extremely 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.760 uncomfortable talking about. But we all ought to grow up 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.400 and just say what's true and whether it makes us 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.080 feel comfortable or not. If you want to actually solve problems, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:28.920 you better reckon with reality anyway. A student who sees 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.679 his strength in social leadership rather than academic achievement might 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.800 choose to invest more in social endeavors. This decision is 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.880 based both on where he or she excels and where 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.280 he perceives the greatest return for his efforts in both 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:45.840 self fulfillment and importantly social recognition. Booty or booty Yeah? 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.400 In other research, who is I? I haven't mentioned the 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.920 name of the person writing this, Roland Fryar, who's an 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.120 economist and a researcher. 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.800 Anyway, or were we? 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.520 In other research, I found that black and Hispanic students 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.520 with high grade point averages tended to be less popular, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.240 which was not true for white students. This was in 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.319 line with previous works suggesting that high achieving black students 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.360 were sometimes mocked for quote acting white. By incorporating this 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.840 kind of peer pressure, the framework we've been talking about 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.480 also illuminates how gender norms can influence field of study choices. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.360 Women might avoid STEM fields not because a lack of 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.920 ability or interest, but due to societal norms dictating what 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:33.160 is considered appropriate for their sex. They found this single 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:33.920 business school. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:39.720 Yes, that is really interesting. That may have changed since 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.319 I was in school, or maybe it depends on the 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.720 neighborhood you're living, like I live in a college town, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:51.320 so it would make sense that popularity and high school 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.040 achievement might go together, but it didn't. At my school. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.480 The most popular people were absolutely not the people with 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.160 the highest grade point averages, and would have been kind 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.520 of unimaginable than it would be interesting, interesting, and here 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.880 as white as they come. Yeah, and we're all white. 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.720 One moment, I'm sorry, one more example, and then I 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.920 want to make a point kind of disputing a little 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.640 of this, but let's see this guy and his co 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.080 authors have found that single female business school students quote 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.080 reported lower desired salaries and willingness to travel and work 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.959 long hours on a real stakes placement questionnaire when they 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:31.559 expected their classmates to see their preference, a phenomenon known 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:38.760 as acting wife as opposed to acting white. That is interesting, so, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.480 and I misunderstood when I read it the first time. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.680 So if you ask single female business school students, what's 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.320 your desired salary? What's your willingness to travel and work 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.800 long hours? They will answer differently if they expect their 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.280 peers to see their answers. 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:58.640 Wow, I'm not sure I understand that. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.840 Yeah, I'm one thing, and it's funny. Tim Sandifer and I. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.720 One of the few like significant diff disagreements we've ever 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.600 had is when we are doing a book club thingy 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.360 that some of you may remember, when we were talking 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:19.480 about Sebastian Junger's book Tribe, and I really liked it 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:23.360 and thought it was really interesting, thought provoking, and Tim didn't. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:23.720 Like it at all. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.360 He thought it was collectivist to claptrap, I am paraphrasing 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.559 bluntly and skilllessly. I'm sure Tim expressed his opinion much 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.439 more eloquently. But the thing, and I think I may 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.559 have said it to Tim, is that what Tim has 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.319 to remember and what we have to remember, is that 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:46.280 Tim is like at the the outer one percent of 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:51.880 iconoclastic individualists the way he sees the world, and you 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:53.080 and I are way. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.160 Out on that scale too, I think. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.680 And there are some very love people, very nice people 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:06.880 who are like way past the midway point, and they're 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:11.560 like good twenty five percent toward They find it really 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.480 rewarding to be part of what other people are doing 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.200 and go along with the crowd and to conform. They 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.360 get a feeling of belonging from that that I think 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:25.959 most real individualists don't experience in the same way, right, 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.400 And so you've got to remember, when you're thinking about 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.480 society on a whole, not everybody sees the world like 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:32.800 I do. 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.959 Hmm, yeah, especially for talking economics like you said earlier, 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.680 Oh yeah, you just do need to observe or take 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.200 in what is, whether it makes sense to you or not. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.160 And one of the great revolutions of revelations not revolutions, 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.520 well there was a revolution, it was a revelation revolution, 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.600 is that the founding fathers designed the Constitution to be 0:12:54.679 --> 0:13:01.160 ironclad against any takeover by monarchs or dictators or even populists, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.800 not because most humans crave liberty, but because most humans 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:10.640 don't that was the danger. And when I realized that, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:15.480 I thought, oh, oh yes, it works both ways. Though, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.200 that whole wanting to be part of the crowd, it 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.320 depends on your crowd. And that gets to the we're 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.480 talking about the whole keeping it real thing earlier. If 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.280 your crowd is it's not cool to really achieve, it's 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.600 not a good way to keep it real. If if 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.000 your crowd is, you know, achieving is the thing to 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.040 be cool of them. But keeping it reals fine. 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.720 Yeah, there's absolutely something to be said for looking at 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.400 the crowd around you and assessing whether they are helping 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.720 your life or hurting it. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.280 Yeah, the desire for acceptance. So, I mean, it's right 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.240 there in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It's a big one 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.600 belonging Maslow. Ought to shut up. I don't care what 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.960 you think. Shut up, Maslow, get down off your pyramid. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:54.360 Uh. 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.600 Coamo's on the View today, She's also on Stern and 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.679 I think Jimmy Kimble all today. But we've got a 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.400 clip off on the View we'll get to a little later, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:02.120 among other things. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:22.240 Armstrong, Hey Geeddy. 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.200 So that's from this weekend. That's North Carolina State University 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.240 in wake Forest, the crowd singing amazing grace along with 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:36.000 the band with the horrifying devastation they've had in that 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:40.000 area of the country. And we are pairing with a 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.320 local United Weight chapter there in North Carolina. If you'd 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.160 like to donate some money, go to Armstrong in getty 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.920 dot com. We check them out, very high rating. Local 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.200 people on the ground know exactly what is needed and 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:51.680 all that sort of stuff. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.440 Yeah, they are right there where the folks need them 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.120 the most, So donate what you can. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.160 Speaking of universities, I just got a phone call while 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:01.560 we were on the air. I didn't answer it. I 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.440 didn't recognize the number, but then saw the voicemail. It's 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.640 the college I went to, h. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:13.920 Offering you a professorship, a deanship, asking me for money, 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.600 and how do you get off of their freaking lists 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:18.760 the college you went to. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.360 And it reminds me of the John Mulaney bit the comedian, 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.320 where he's always talking about his college is just his 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.520 whole thing about. Look, we had a deal. I paid 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.880 you a lot of money, you gave me an education. 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.560 Then we're done. We are done. I mean we are 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:38.240 completely done. I don't give you any more money. I 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:40.480 don't call you up and say, hey, could you give 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.400 me I need an hour this afternoon on the periodic table? 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.640 Could somebody teach me for another hour? I just need 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.880 one more hour of teaching. Now we're done with that. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.480 You taught me, I paid you, We're over. Why do 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:53.360 you keep calling me? 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:53.760 Who? 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.040 And what's wrong with you? People who keep giving money 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.920 to the colleges. Most of them have plenty of money anyway. Yeah, 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:01.120 I like the other side of it. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.800 Hey, I'm a little hazy on the whole, you know, 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:05.160 supplying demand thing. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.040 Could you just send somebody over right? You don't get 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:08.520 to do that? 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:08.760 Oh? 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.360 Yeah, Like I'm on this Beethoven kick. I should call 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.160 up to say, can you get the person in the 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.160 music department. I'm kind of into Beethoven right now and 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.040 I wasn't then, So could you have them teach me 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.080 some stuff? I'd like that, and then maybe I'll send 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.440 you another one hundred dollars. But otherwise, why am I 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.440 giving you money and I'm getting nothing in return? It 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.240 must work or they wouldn't do it, But please stop 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.520 calling me. I've got to get off the list somehow. 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.000 So what are we going to squeeze in in the 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.520 final half hour of the show. The many hypocrisies of 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.640 Kamala Harris. I haven't heard these clips. She's on the 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:41.280 View today. 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.520 She's also going to be on Howard Stern and on 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.920 Jimmy Kimmel, I think, and you know, lots of friendly 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.920 venues in hoping to put the rest the whole. I 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:54.240 don't do interviews thing, but it's a weak effort. Well, 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:58.560 she's pretty good at the laughing, you know, playful, non 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.520 serious stuff, and it'll be fine. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.679 We're hiring the chief executive of the most important corporation 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.120 on earth that has nuclear weapons. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.360 I don't care how cheery is she is. We've got 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.280 a clip overview in the View coming up. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.159 State Doom Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:19.480 You recently surprised people when you said that you are 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.400 a gun owner and then if someone came into your house. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.639 Not the first time I've shot it. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.439 That's not the first time I've talked about it. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.399 So what kind of guns you own and when and 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:29.320 why did you get it? 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.440 I have a glock and I've had it for quite 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.919 some time. And I mean, look, Bill, my background is 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.280 in law enforcement, and. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:42.200 So there you go. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.679 Have you ever fired it? Yes, of course I have 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.879 at a shooting range. Yes, of course I have, So 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.000 I thought Kamas harris answer was on guns was great. 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.080 What I find weird is, uh is the response of 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.399 the mainstream media. You own a gun, yeah, like half 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.920 the country does. It's not Have you fired it? 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:06.960 Yeah? 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:12.320 No, I would never fire it. She is soup. If 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.120 you own a gun, you fire it. That's the whole thing. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.639 So you're ready to use it, what would you do 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:19.400 with it? Well, if somebody broke into my house, I'd 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.240 shoot them, she said. I'm glad she's answering that way 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.239 that moves the ball my direction. Whether she you know, 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:26.919 that's her actual personality or not. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.560 It is yet another flip flop on the level of 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.200 circ de sola, which we'll get into in a few minutes. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.200 Well, yeah, so just came across this on since she 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.600 just brought up the glock, Charles C. W. Cook tweeted 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.200 out Kamala Harris says she owns a glock. I'm sure 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:46.000 she does. She uses that claim to signal her supposed moderation, 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.800 but Harris has tried to ban that exact gun in 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.639 both the cities that she's lived in. The only reason 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.480 she can own one is that the people she decries 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.080 have defeated her. That's pretty interesting. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.240 In fact, yeah, she was one of the signator is 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:04.280 on the District Attorney's amicus brief and District of Columbia v. 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:09.679 Heller in support of a handgun ban. So but you 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.159 know what that would be, that would be one of 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.640 those deals. Well, I'm always gonna be in a position 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.160 where i can have a gun because you know, sure 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.160 I'm an attorney general or senator or whoever. I either 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.760 can have a gun because I have different rules, or 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.320 I'll have people around me who protect me with guns. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.800 That is the great evil of the whole gun thing 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:33.720 to me is that a lot of the people that 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.600 make these decisions they get to It's just like the 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:40.919 free speech thing. No no, no free speech. As long 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.880 as I get to decide what's misinformation and I'm then 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.200 that's fine. As long as I get to have a gun, 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.280 and then I decide who else can have one, like 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.600 the county I lived in. Living has been forever and 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.040 was in Sacramento that way forever until it finally got 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.879 challenged at the Supreme Court level and they gave in 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:02.320 on That is the no no gun permits concealed carrie 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.560 is legal, but they don't actually give out any permits. Ah, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:09.800 but the friends of the sheriff usually do somehow magically right, 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.320 they get a concealed a cary permit. So that's what 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.639 Kamala Harris is. Where she wants to ban blocks for 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.720 you and me, she would have one or the people 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.120 who protect her would have them. 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:23.080 It seems extraordinary to claim it, but it's indisputable that, 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:28.080 especially on the left, there is an attitude that individual 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.800 constitutional rights should be doled out on a case by 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:35.960 case basis, according to me, which is abhorrent. 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:39.159 Yeah, but I because she got asked that, say so, 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.240 Bill Whittaker, have you fired it? What kind of a 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:45.640 quick and why do you sounds like that that would 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.560 be crazy And the same question from I think it 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.680 was Christian Walker on Meet the Press to Come a 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.600 couple of weeks ago, of many people troubled when they 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.239 found out were many people troubled when they found out 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.199 Kamala HER's is a gun owner? Maybe, but half the 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:05.000 country's not troubled at all. Do you have a fishing pole? 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.360 Do you pull fish out of the water by their 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:13.960 face with it? That's what it is. Mind your own 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:18.240 down business anyway more current than last night sixty minutes 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.520 interview with Kamala Harris is Today's interviews, which haven't even 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.600 aired yet. Kamala Harris is on the view. This particular 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:26.400 clip's getting a fair amount of attention already. 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:31.880 Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:36.399 President Biden during the past four years? There is not 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.879 a thing that comes to mind in terms of and 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:42.359 I've been a part of most of the decisions that 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.560 have had impact, So. 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.639 That's kind of interesting. She was asked that question more 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:48.680 or less by Bill Whitaker last night, but she word 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.120 salad at her way out of it. Was there anything 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.119 that you'd disagree with Joe Biden on? Yet? According to 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:57.760 the New York Times poll out today, she is by 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:00.760 a pretty healthy lead seen as the candidate of change, 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.080 which I get kind of I kind of figured that 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.560 that's what would happen, is that she would look like 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.640 a break from the past more than Trump, even though 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.240 she's in the current administration, just because Trump was president 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.159 and is old and Biden was president isn't old, and 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.679 she's young and hasn't been president. I mean, come on, 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:22.200 she agrees with him on everything. But she's the change candidate. Sorry, no, 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:25.000 can't go there. Well, no, those don't fit together obviously, 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.920 But just to tell you, you sell your craziness elsewhere, sir. 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:30.399