Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: I'm strong and get and he.
Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: Okay, good.
Speaker 1: Katie.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to explain to us what the hell
Speaker 2: this is we're hearing here. So apparently there's this internet
Speaker 2: trend going on, an internet trend. You say it's an
Speaker 2: internet trend.
Speaker 4: And apparently if you exhale all the way, get all
Speaker 4: the air completely out of your lungs, and then you
Speaker 4: try to scream, you make some form of a noise
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha, the exhale and scream challenge. I'll do that
Speaker 2: with my kids today for fun. Take a video, let
Speaker 2: us know what it goes. I'll do it with one
Speaker 2: of my kids. My high school kid is no longer
Speaker 2: interested in anything whimsical. He is just gloom. Teenager. What
Speaker 2: the official uniform of teenager? Though?
Speaker 4: The whole reason I disgust, I wanted to see if
Speaker 4: Michelangelo could do it.
Speaker 2: Michael, do that for us on Mike. Exhale completely, then
Speaker 2: try to scream, Okay, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 2: Oh you took you in, healed you didn't. You didn't
Speaker 2: exhale enough either, it completely exhaed. Okay, no, you inhaled again.
Speaker 2: You can't in here, I'm took blew out. Then you
Speaker 2: took a breath.
Speaker 5: Okay, me blow I'm gonna just nothing but blow out completely.
Speaker 2: Don't take a breath in.
Speaker 6: You took it.
Speaker 2: You I never mind never I don't understand. I'm just
Speaker 2: going out.
Speaker 5: That's the why I excel.
Speaker 2: You do not take a breath. You are taking the
Speaker 2: fact that you're not following these instructions is I'm just
Speaker 2: blow out, right, Okay, Katie, we gotta go. No, We're
Speaker 2: not gonna go through this again.
Speaker 7: Michael, Michael, you blow out, you go and then you
Speaker 7: go and then you scream.
Speaker 2: You're not supposed.
Speaker 5: To leave out to last try Okay, so just blow
Speaker 5: and scream, but but don't write.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, all right, everywhere, So earlier, earlier,
Speaker 2: all right, Katie, for the podcast you need to do.
Speaker 2: I want to hear you try to do it. Okay, podcast.
Speaker 7: You know, the only thing I took away from that
Speaker 7: is how incredibly infectious laughter is listening to those numb skulls.
Speaker 7: Try to do the numbskullish challenge of the day. But
Speaker 7: they're all laughing, so you just can't help but you know, giggle. Anyway,
Speaker 7: I talked about this earlier today. I think it was
Speaker 7: our two. Maybe some economists have finally woken up to
Speaker 7: the fact that human beings are not like computerized decision makers.
Speaker 7: There are all sorts of things that enter into economics.
Speaker 7: In particular, as Nobel Prize winning economist George Akerloff and
Speaker 7: his collaborator Rachel Cranton said wrote years and years ago,
Speaker 7: identity may be the most important economic decision people make,
Speaker 7: and it has to do with how you see yourself,
Speaker 7: how you want to project an identity, what group of
Speaker 7: people do you consider yourself part of? And you make
Speaker 7: all sorts of economic decisions based on not rational analysis,
Speaker 7: but identity.
Speaker 2: If I had known this was part of economics when
Speaker 2: I was in college, I could have easily made it
Speaker 2: my life. I only took microeconomics, which I hated. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's obviously got its value supply to my O, etcetera.
Speaker 2: But if I'd have known all this other stuff that
Speaker 2: I find so fascinating about economics was part of it,
Speaker 2: I would have man, I would have eaten that up yeah, what.
Speaker 7: Would you call it psychoeconomics, socioeconomics or something like that.
Speaker 7: But they gave the example of an academic economist, not coincidentally,
Speaker 7: that's who we're talking about. That would be a social category,
Speaker 7: and that's the way they would see themselves or part
Speaker 7: of that group whatever. So they probably own a practical
Speaker 7: car and wear comfortable shoes, and if they showed up
Speaker 7: in a portion nine to eleven or a pair of
Speaker 7: five hundred dollars loafers, they would all not only feel
Speaker 7: like they were putting on airs, but they'd probably be
Speaker 7: mocked and scorned by colleagues. In traditional economics, it's hard
Speaker 7: to rationalize why anyone would care so much about what
Speaker 7: shoes I walk in wearing right, or what car I drive,
Speaker 7: But that that really affects decisions they go into.
Speaker 2: Like individual when you go to buy a pair of
Speaker 2: shoes or a car, practically anything, certainly anything, anybody's going
Speaker 2: to observe. The options are not wide open for most people.
Speaker 2: They're limited to your identity. It has to shit into
Speaker 2: that world of your identity, which is interesting. We don't
Speaker 2: see ourselves that way. I think most people like to
Speaker 2: see themselves as no I could wear any kind of footwear.
Speaker 2: It's completely up to me. I'm my own person. But no,
Speaker 2: it fits into a view you heavy of yourself, where
Speaker 2: you want other people to have of you, or you
Speaker 2: think you have whatever.
Speaker 7: And then they talk about individual gains from both material
Speaker 7: outcomes and actions that conform to their identities blah blah blah,
Speaker 7: and labor markets workers or motived by wages, of course,
Speaker 7: but also by how well their job aligns with their identities.
Speaker 7: They give the example of a corporate job might offer
Speaker 7: financial stability, but if it conflicts with an individual's identity
Speaker 7: is an environmentalist, for instance, that's going to lead to
Speaker 7: satisfaction and underperformance in this vein, trying to train coal
Speaker 7: miners to be nurses may be feudal.
Speaker 2: And Jack, I love the idea you gave when we
Speaker 2: were talking about this. If you remember, I don't you said,
Speaker 2: trying to train farmers because the family farmers disappearing to
Speaker 2: be coders, have them sit in a cubicle ten hours
Speaker 2: a day to code, they would hang themselves. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you hear politicians throw that around all the time, like
Speaker 2: you can just retrain people that have been a certain
Speaker 2: sort of person to be a completely different sort of person.
Speaker 2: And as the point of what you're saying is, it's
Speaker 2: not just about the money.
Speaker 7: So there's other research by a couple of guys you've
Speaker 7: never heard of to provide a granular look into the
Speaker 7: mechanics of this phenomenon. DOTI is based on lab experiments
Speaker 7: that prime subjects to see different parts of their identities.
Speaker 7: Is especially salient demonstrate that people may out for lower
Speaker 7: paying jobs if it means greater congruence or you know,
Speaker 7: fitting in with their social group, or might choose consumer
Speaker 7: goods that signal affiliation to a particular identity despite higher
Speaker 7: costs and no higher quality. We see that all the
Speaker 7: time in fashion police. So they go into that at
Speaker 7: some length, and it's very very interesting. We'll post link
Speaker 7: at Armstrong and getty dot com under hot links. But
Speaker 7: then let's see that they go more deeply into that
Speaker 7: diverges from traditional notions of comparative advantage typically applied to
Speaker 7: countries or firms. I met with several well known psychologists,
Speaker 7: writs this journalist across the country. Many assume that heredity
Speaker 7: largely dictated the identities to.
Speaker 2: Which people gravitated.
Speaker 7: We investigated the academic paths chosen by students in racially
Speaker 7: and socioeconomically diverse schools. We found that students often align
Speaker 7: their academic efforts with what they perceive to be their
Speaker 7: comparative advantages. Interesting, and this is something that we and
Speaker 7: others have observed through the years, and people are extremely
Speaker 7: uncomfortable talking about. But we all ought to grow up
Speaker 7: and just say what's true and whether it makes us
Speaker 7: feel comfortable or not. If you want to actually solve problems,
Speaker 7: you better reckon with reality anyway. A student who sees
Speaker 7: his strength in social leadership rather than academic achievement might
Speaker 7: choose to invest more in social endeavors. This decision is
Speaker 7: based both on where he or she excels and where
Speaker 7: he perceives the greatest return for his efforts in both
Speaker 7: self fulfillment and importantly social recognition. Booty or booty Yeah?
Speaker 7: In other research, who is I? I haven't mentioned the
Speaker 7: name of the person writing this, Roland Fryar, who's an
Speaker 7: economist and a researcher.
Speaker 2: Anyway, or were we?
Speaker 7: In other research, I found that black and Hispanic students
Speaker 7: with high grade point averages tended to be less popular,
Speaker 7: which was not true for white students. This was in
Speaker 7: line with previous works suggesting that high achieving black students
Speaker 7: were sometimes mocked for quote acting white. By incorporating this
Speaker 7: kind of peer pressure, the framework we've been talking about
Speaker 7: also illuminates how gender norms can influence field of study choices.
Speaker 7: Women might avoid STEM fields not because a lack of
Speaker 7: ability or interest, but due to societal norms dictating what
Speaker 7: is considered appropriate for their sex. They found this single
Speaker 7: business school.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is really interesting. That may have changed since
Speaker 2: I was in school, or maybe it depends on the
Speaker 2: neighborhood you're living, like I live in a college town,
Speaker 2: so it would make sense that popularity and high school
Speaker 2: achievement might go together, but it didn't. At my school.
Speaker 2: The most popular people were absolutely not the people with
Speaker 2: the highest grade point averages, and would have been kind
Speaker 2: of unimaginable than it would be interesting, interesting, and here
Speaker 2: as white as they come. Yeah, and we're all white.
Speaker 7: One moment, I'm sorry, one more example, and then I
Speaker 7: want to make a point kind of disputing a little
Speaker 7: of this, but let's see this guy and his co
Speaker 7: authors have found that single female business school students quote
Speaker 7: reported lower desired salaries and willingness to travel and work
Speaker 7: long hours on a real stakes placement questionnaire when they
Speaker 7: expected their classmates to see their preference, a phenomenon known
Speaker 7: as acting wife as opposed to acting white. That is interesting, so,
Speaker 7: and I misunderstood when I read it the first time.
Speaker 7: So if you ask single female business school students, what's
Speaker 7: your desired salary? What's your willingness to travel and work
Speaker 7: long hours? They will answer differently if they expect their
Speaker 7: peers to see their answers.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm not sure I understand that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm one thing, and it's funny. Tim Sandifer and I.
Speaker 7: One of the few like significant diff disagreements we've ever
Speaker 7: had is when we are doing a book club thingy
Speaker 7: that some of you may remember, when we were talking
Speaker 7: about Sebastian Junger's book Tribe, and I really liked it
Speaker 7: and thought it was really interesting, thought provoking, and Tim didn't.
Speaker 2: Like it at all.
Speaker 7: He thought it was collectivist to claptrap, I am paraphrasing
Speaker 7: bluntly and skilllessly. I'm sure Tim expressed his opinion much
Speaker 7: more eloquently. But the thing, and I think I may
Speaker 7: have said it to Tim, is that what Tim has
Speaker 7: to remember and what we have to remember, is that
Speaker 7: Tim is like at the the outer one percent of
Speaker 7: iconoclastic individualists the way he sees the world, and you
Speaker 7: and I are way.
Speaker 2: Out on that scale too, I think.
Speaker 7: And there are some very love people, very nice people
Speaker 7: who are like way past the midway point, and they're
Speaker 7: like good twenty five percent toward They find it really
Speaker 7: rewarding to be part of what other people are doing
Speaker 7: and go along with the crowd and to conform. They
Speaker 7: get a feeling of belonging from that that I think
Speaker 7: most real individualists don't experience in the same way, right,
Speaker 7: And so you've got to remember, when you're thinking about
Speaker 7: society on a whole, not everybody sees the world like
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 2: Hmm, yeah, especially for talking economics like you said earlier,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you just do need to observe or take
Speaker 2: in what is, whether it makes sense to you or not.
Speaker 2: And one of the great revolutions of revelations not revolutions,
Speaker 2: well there was a revolution, it was a revelation revolution,
Speaker 2: is that the founding fathers designed the Constitution to be
Speaker 2: ironclad against any takeover by monarchs or dictators or even populists,
Speaker 2: not because most humans crave liberty, but because most humans
Speaker 2: don't that was the danger. And when I realized that,
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, oh yes, it works both ways. Though,
Speaker 2: that whole wanting to be part of the crowd, it
Speaker 2: depends on your crowd. And that gets to the we're
Speaker 2: talking about the whole keeping it real thing earlier. If
Speaker 2: your crowd is it's not cool to really achieve, it's
Speaker 2: not a good way to keep it real. If if
Speaker 2: your crowd is, you know, achieving is the thing to
Speaker 2: be cool of them. But keeping it reals fine.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's absolutely something to be said for looking at
Speaker 7: the crowd around you and assessing whether they are helping
Speaker 7: your life or hurting it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the desire for acceptance. So, I mean, it's right
Speaker 2: there in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It's a big one
Speaker 2: belonging Maslow. Ought to shut up. I don't care what
Speaker 2: you think. Shut up, Maslow, get down off your pyramid.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Coamo's on the View today, She's also on Stern and
Speaker 2: I think Jimmy Kimble all today. But we've got a
Speaker 2: clip off on the View we'll get to a little later,
Speaker 2: among other things.
Speaker 1: Armstrong, Hey Geeddy.
Speaker 2: So that's from this weekend. That's North Carolina State University
Speaker 2: in wake Forest, the crowd singing amazing grace along with
Speaker 2: the band with the horrifying devastation they've had in that
Speaker 2: area of the country. And we are pairing with a
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Speaker 2: people on the ground know exactly what is needed and
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they are right there where the folks need them
Speaker 7: the most, So donate what you can.
Speaker 2: Speaking of universities, I just got a phone call while
Speaker 2: we were on the air. I didn't answer it. I
Speaker 2: didn't recognize the number, but then saw the voicemail. It's
Speaker 2: the college I went to, h.
Speaker 7: Offering you a professorship, a deanship, asking me for money,
Speaker 7: and how do you get off of their freaking lists
Speaker 7: the college you went to.
Speaker 2: And it reminds me of the John Mulaney bit the comedian,
Speaker 2: where he's always talking about his college is just his
Speaker 2: whole thing about. Look, we had a deal. I paid
Speaker 2: you a lot of money, you gave me an education.
Speaker 2: Then we're done. We are done. I mean we are
Speaker 2: completely done. I don't give you any more money. I
Speaker 2: don't call you up and say, hey, could you give
Speaker 2: me I need an hour this afternoon on the periodic table?
Speaker 2: Could somebody teach me for another hour? I just need
Speaker 2: one more hour of teaching. Now we're done with that.
Speaker 2: You taught me, I paid you, We're over. Why do
Speaker 2: you keep calling me?
Speaker 6: Who?
Speaker 2: And what's wrong with you? People who keep giving money
Speaker 2: to the colleges. Most of them have plenty of money anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like the other side of it.
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm a little hazy on the whole, you know,
Speaker 7: supplying demand thing.
Speaker 2: Could you just send somebody over right? You don't get
Speaker 2: to do that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm on this Beethoven kick. I should call
Speaker 2: up to say, can you get the person in the
Speaker 2: music department. I'm kind of into Beethoven right now and
Speaker 2: I wasn't then, So could you have them teach me
Speaker 2: some stuff? I'd like that, and then maybe I'll send
Speaker 2: you another one hundred dollars. But otherwise, why am I
Speaker 2: giving you money and I'm getting nothing in return? It
Speaker 2: must work or they wouldn't do it, But please stop
Speaker 2: calling me. I've got to get off the list somehow.
Speaker 7: So what are we going to squeeze in in the
Speaker 7: final half hour of the show. The many hypocrisies of
Speaker 7: Kamala Harris. I haven't heard these clips. She's on the
Speaker 7: View today.
Speaker 2: She's also going to be on Howard Stern and on
Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel, I think, and you know, lots of friendly
Speaker 2: venues in hoping to put the rest the whole. I
Speaker 2: don't do interviews thing, but it's a weak effort. Well,
Speaker 2: she's pretty good at the laughing, you know, playful, non
Speaker 2: serious stuff, and it'll be fine.
Speaker 7: We're hiring the chief executive of the most important corporation
Speaker 7: on earth that has nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2: I don't care how cheery is she is. We've got
Speaker 2: a clip overview in the View coming up.
Speaker 1: State Doom Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: You recently surprised people when you said that you are
Speaker 2: a gun owner and then if someone came into your house.
Speaker 2: Not the first time I've shot it.
Speaker 6: That's not the first time I've talked about it.
Speaker 2: So what kind of guns you own and when and
Speaker 2: why did you get it?
Speaker 6: I have a glock and I've had it for quite
Speaker 6: some time. And I mean, look, Bill, my background is
Speaker 6: in law enforcement, and.
Speaker 5: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Have you ever fired it? Yes, of course I have
Speaker 2: at a shooting range. Yes, of course I have, So
Speaker 2: I thought Kamas harris answer was on guns was great.
Speaker 2: What I find weird is, uh is the response of
Speaker 2: the mainstream media. You own a gun, yeah, like half
Speaker 2: the country does. It's not Have you fired it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, I would never fire it. She is soup. If
Speaker 2: you own a gun, you fire it. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 2: So you're ready to use it, what would you do
Speaker 2: with it? Well, if somebody broke into my house, I'd
Speaker 2: shoot them, she said. I'm glad she's answering that way
Speaker 2: that moves the ball my direction. Whether she you know,
Speaker 2: that's her actual personality or not.
Speaker 7: It is yet another flip flop on the level of
Speaker 7: circ de sola, which we'll get into in a few minutes.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so just came across this on since she
Speaker 2: just brought up the glock, Charles C. W. Cook tweeted
Speaker 2: out Kamala Harris says she owns a glock. I'm sure
Speaker 2: she does. She uses that claim to signal her supposed moderation,
Speaker 2: but Harris has tried to ban that exact gun in
Speaker 2: both the cities that she's lived in. The only reason
Speaker 2: she can own one is that the people she decries
Speaker 2: have defeated her. That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 7: In fact, yeah, she was one of the signator is
Speaker 7: on the District Attorney's amicus brief and District of Columbia v.
Speaker 2: Heller in support of a handgun ban. So but you
Speaker 2: know what that would be, that would be one of
Speaker 2: those deals. Well, I'm always gonna be in a position
Speaker 2: where i can have a gun because you know, sure
Speaker 2: I'm an attorney general or senator or whoever. I either
Speaker 2: can have a gun because I have different rules, or
Speaker 2: I'll have people around me who protect me with guns.
Speaker 2: That is the great evil of the whole gun thing
Speaker 2: to me is that a lot of the people that
Speaker 2: make these decisions they get to It's just like the
Speaker 2: free speech thing. No no, no free speech. As long
Speaker 2: as I get to decide what's misinformation and I'm then
Speaker 2: that's fine. As long as I get to have a gun,
Speaker 2: and then I decide who else can have one, like
Speaker 2: the county I lived in. Living has been forever and
Speaker 2: was in Sacramento that way forever until it finally got
Speaker 2: challenged at the Supreme Court level and they gave in
Speaker 2: on That is the no no gun permits concealed carrie
Speaker 2: is legal, but they don't actually give out any permits. Ah,
Speaker 2: but the friends of the sheriff usually do somehow magically right,
Speaker 2: they get a concealed a cary permit. So that's what
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is. Where she wants to ban blocks for
Speaker 2: you and me, she would have one or the people
Speaker 2: who protect her would have them.
Speaker 7: It seems extraordinary to claim it, but it's indisputable that,
Speaker 7: especially on the left, there is an attitude that individual
Speaker 7: constitutional rights should be doled out on a case by
Speaker 7: case basis, according to me, which is abhorrent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I because she got asked that, say so,
Speaker 2: Bill Whittaker, have you fired it? What kind of a
Speaker 2: quick and why do you sounds like that that would
Speaker 2: be crazy And the same question from I think it
Speaker 2: was Christian Walker on Meet the Press to Come a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, of many people troubled when they
Speaker 2: found out were many people troubled when they found out
Speaker 2: Kamala HER's is a gun owner? Maybe, but half the
Speaker 2: country's not troubled at all. Do you have a fishing pole?
Speaker 2: Do you pull fish out of the water by their
Speaker 2: face with it? That's what it is. Mind your own
Speaker 2: down business anyway more current than last night sixty minutes
Speaker 2: interview with Kamala Harris is Today's interviews, which haven't even
Speaker 2: aired yet. Kamala Harris is on the view. This particular
Speaker 2: clip's getting a fair amount of attention already.
Speaker 6: Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than
Speaker 6: President Biden during the past four years? There is not
Speaker 6: a thing that comes to mind in terms of and
Speaker 6: I've been a part of most of the decisions that
Speaker 6: have had impact, So.
Speaker 2: That's kind of interesting. She was asked that question more
Speaker 2: or less by Bill Whitaker last night, but she word
Speaker 2: salad at her way out of it. Was there anything
Speaker 2: that you'd disagree with Joe Biden on? Yet? According to
Speaker 2: the New York Times poll out today, she is by
Speaker 2: a pretty healthy lead seen as the candidate of change,
Speaker 2: which I get kind of I kind of figured that
Speaker 2: that's what would happen, is that she would look like
Speaker 2: a break from the past more than Trump, even though
Speaker 2: she's in the current administration, just because Trump was president
Speaker 2: and is old and Biden was president isn't old, and
Speaker 2: she's young and hasn't been president. I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: she agrees with him on everything. But she's the change candidate. Sorry, no,
Speaker 2: can't go there. Well, no, those don't fit together obviously,
Speaker 2: But just to tell you, you sell your craziness elsewhere, sir.
Speaker 2: I just think if you look at the three of them,
Speaker 2: you think, well, that's something different, because we haven't tried
Speaker 2: that yet. But yeah, that is interesting that she's got
Speaker 2: no nothing that she's willing to say she'd break with.
Speaker 2: Why would that be? It seems like it's such a
Speaker 2: win for her to say to to pick something the
Speaker 2: border or or some pick any hot issue. Why not
Speaker 2: break with the what's the damage there? He's at like
Speaker 2: thirty seven percent approval.
Speaker 7: If you are at all eloquent, eh, sorry, I mean sorry,
Speaker 7: she isn't.
Speaker 2: But if you're at all eloquent, you could phrase them
Speaker 2: some way.
Speaker 7: Listen, we agreed on ninety five percent of policy occasionally.
Speaker 7: For instance, I thought we should allow fracking for a
Speaker 7: longer time as we develop.
Speaker 2: Green energy sources. I mean, just if that's not that
Speaker 2: hard to do. I don't know why she sticks with that,
Speaker 2: but she does. And then this is kind of this
Speaker 2: is the sort of thing you hear on the view.
Speaker 6: Here's Kamala Aerir's I went to work out and I
Speaker 6: head on cooking shows.
Speaker 2: There there, we got to back it up, so you
Speaker 2: know what they're hell they're talking about. They they ask
Speaker 2: her about when you found out that Joe Biden was
Speaker 2: going to step down as the nominee and you would
Speaker 2: end because he's so damned sni because he's so damned senile,
Speaker 2: which you've which you've been denying. What were you doing
Speaker 2: when you got the phone call on that? I think
Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon. Sunday morning, I went.
Speaker 6: To work out and I head on cooking shows and
Speaker 6: they're asking me, Auntie, what's that ingredient?
Speaker 5: Was that ingredient?
Speaker 6: And they're playing while I'm working out, make breakfast. We
Speaker 6: sit down, we're having a breakfast, and we'd been working
Speaker 6: on a puzzle, so they want more bacon.
Speaker 2: Got more bacon. You know how it goes.
Speaker 6: And so then we had a puzzle, so we went
Speaker 6: back up to work on the puzzle. I'm still in
Speaker 6: my workout clothes and we're working on the puzzle and
Speaker 6: the phone rings, so I said, Auntie, he'll be right back. Meanwhile,
Speaker 6: I went back into the room where the girls were
Speaker 6: and I'm like, go get your father because I knew.
Speaker 1: He'd be somewhere, and.
Speaker 6: So we laughed afterwards, Nick as their father. We laughed
Speaker 6: that Almara the elder one was kind of like Paul Revere,
Speaker 6: and Leela the younger one was Paul Revere's course.
Speaker 2: You know, killed me several interesting things about that. I
Speaker 2: don't know why Whoopy found it so fascinating that she
Speaker 2: was still in her workout clothes when she went up
Speaker 2: to take the pH uncle. I was still in my
Speaker 2: working clothes. Oh, all right. But did Kamala not see
Speaker 2: that coming or think it was going to happen on
Speaker 2: that timeline? And then it's interesting that did it immediately?
Speaker 2: Did she immediately think I'm the nominee then, because that
Speaker 2: didn't have to play out that way at all.
Speaker 7: Obviously, I would guess she was ready to implement to
Speaker 7: Plan nine from Alameda to get the nomination.
Speaker 2: She and her peeps had been talking about it, yeah,
Speaker 2: because if you remember how that was going on, I mean,
Speaker 2: everybody was talking about it there for days and days
Speaker 2: and days. If he steps down, will Kamala bee should
Speaker 2: they have a primary? Carvel pushed for that to have
Speaker 2: a mini primary and just all that sort of stuff,
Speaker 2: And I'm sure like Joe said, she was angling behind
Speaker 2: the scenes to try to squash that quickly. All right, now,
Speaker 2: I see I need a jury of my peers, and
Speaker 2: you people, while you were absolutely my peers, I just
Speaker 2: I know which way you're gonna vote.
Speaker 7: I found that story very annoying. First, I was born annoyed,
Speaker 7: as Jack knows. But I found it very very annoying. Uh,
Speaker 7: in all the extraneous details about cooking shows and workouts
Speaker 7: and wanting more bacon and Auntie this and and and.
Speaker 2: Is it because a I just don't like her?
Speaker 7: Is it because that's the way a woman would tell
Speaker 7: the story? And I'm a dude allegedly, well allegedly dude,
Speaker 7: or I mean, why did I find that so annoying?
Speaker 7: The answer to the question was I was with family.
Speaker 7: We were actually working on a puzzle, and they told
Speaker 7: me a call came in and I.
Speaker 2: Took that call just the maybe it's a woman thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 7: There was nothing wrong with it. It was kind of
Speaker 7: a charming story about familial love.
Speaker 2: I just I felt like it reeked of effort to
Speaker 2: try to throw in as many charming anecdotes as possible. Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe that's yes, Well, said.
Speaker 4: Well, alleged, dude, I don't think all women tell stories
Speaker 4: that way.
Speaker 7: So well, I know, but that's what I was thinking
Speaker 7: of you when I said this is not going to
Speaker 7: be a good jury because you have no patience for that.
Speaker 2: That's true. But I feel like she's just working so
Speaker 2: hard the bacon. We all love bacon, and you know
Speaker 2: how that goes. I was doing puzzles with the kids,
Speaker 2: because that's a good mom sort of thing to do,
Speaker 2: doing puzzles with the kids. I was cooking breakfast like
Speaker 2: a regular mom anywhere in the country on us. Anything
Speaker 2: she can do to be relatable. I'm in workout gear. Huh, moms,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking a whole being in workout pants. Right,
Speaker 2: We've all been in those pants, haven't we woke this?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, but that whole They asked for bacon because
Speaker 7: they wanted more bacon.
Speaker 2: You know how that goes, because we all love bacon. Huh,
Speaker 2: who's with me? Who likes bacon? Now, let's go be president.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I just it was cloying, I guess. And I don't
Speaker 7: want to be unfair or knee jerk. I mean, I
Speaker 7: can't help it with her, Like I said, earlier.
Speaker 2: I did not knee jerk dislike Bill Clinton or Barack Obama.
Speaker 2: I kneed jerk dislike her or Joe Biden. I just,
Speaker 2: I just I'm appalled by her presence. I don't and
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure what. Yeah, Joe Biden became appalling.
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is a p A lot of his policies
Speaker 2: I'm appalled at and things he says and does. But like,
Speaker 2: I don't if I walked into a room and he
Speaker 2: was here, I wouldn't recoil with disgust. I would with her.
Speaker 2: I just I really can't stand her personality, and I'm
Speaker 2: not exactly sure what it is. Yeah, ah, shut up?
Speaker 2: Got trying so hard? Or can you be human for
Speaker 2: a moment and not sound like you're trying to be something?
Speaker 7: Were any of those details fundamental to understanding or enjoying
Speaker 7: the story. The fact that she'd been working out watching
Speaker 7: cooking shows Auntie, what's this ingradio?
Speaker 2: I feel like it was a consultant list of relations,
Speaker 2: list ten relatable things from a Sunday morning home, and
Speaker 2: she did them in order. That's what she sounds like
Speaker 2: all the time to me. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm just a misogynist. Maybe that's it. And yet they're tired, Okay,
Speaker 2: yeah they are tying. Yeah, no doubt. God dang it.
Speaker 2: That election night. I heard Chris Steyerwalt the other day
Speaker 2: with the Dispatch, and he is the person that called
Speaker 2: Arizona for Fox. He's the one that he was the
Speaker 2: first in America to declare Trump the winner, got fired
Speaker 2: from Fox for it even though he was right. But
Speaker 2: he thinks he will know by six thirty eastern. They
Speaker 2: say nine to thirty eastern or six thirty eastern who's
Speaker 2: gonna win because of how I think he said North
Speaker 2: Carolina and Michigan go anyway, but that that could be
Speaker 2: a heck of a night. That could be a heck
Speaker 2: of a night. I'm gonna be I'm going to clear.
Speaker 2: I might get a sitter just so I need to
Speaker 2: be a I can't. I can't have a dad. I'm
Speaker 2: hungry or my homework. I gotta be on. I gotta
Speaker 2: be paying attention to this. It's gonna be crazy lifetime.
Speaker 2: I agree completely.
Speaker 7: I got to brew up some some coffee or pick
Speaker 7: up some street meth or something because I went to
Speaker 7: bed or early. Much more earlier than you are. I
Speaker 7: stayed up till sixteen. I stayed up till like two
Speaker 7: in the morning. That was the dysfunctional, the greatest night
Speaker 7: of my life. I was not going to go to
Speaker 7: bed on that, no way. I was so excited. I
Speaker 7: had to stay up until Trump come out. And then
Speaker 7: I want to see if Hillary came out.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's Katie Perry is crying, crying, Share is crying. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we'll finish strong next, it's an election bill.
Speaker 1: Strong.
Speaker 2: Three things I want to fit in here in the
Speaker 2: final couple of minutes. One there's a new Bob Woodward
Speaker 2: book out called War. It's about Trump's dealing with Ukraine
Speaker 2: and COVID, I think, and then Biden dealing with Ukraine
Speaker 2: in Israel.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Just reminding everybody, this is not our first rodeo on
Speaker 2: Bob Woodward. This happens every single time. And I always
Speaker 2: pointed out because nobody actually reads the books but me
Speaker 2: and a few other people. I actually read these books.
Speaker 2: The quotes you're going to hear that have already started
Speaker 2: are incredibly misleading every single time, every single time, very
Speaker 2: very misleading as to what the book is actually about.
Speaker 2: Or I was gonna say, are insignificant. Yes, just whatever
Speaker 2: is the most gossipy, the hottest gossip for the DC
Speaker 2: Beltway crap, which is smart for selling a book, But
Speaker 2: just keep that in mind when you hear some of
Speaker 2: the stuff. Another thing, this Hurricane Milton that is headed
Speaker 2: toward Florida. Some of deal just are saying they might
Speaker 2: have to come with a category six for this one.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna start having hurricanes like this. It is
Speaker 2: almost at the limit of what a hurricane could be
Speaker 2: on planet Earth in terms of wind speed and power.
Speaker 2: The meteorologists say, yeah, the right.
Speaker 7: Dave Berg, the Iowa Hawk blog guy, responded with it
Speaker 7: goes to eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what it's actually like and how much water
Speaker 2: it forces onto Tampa remains to be seen. But man,
Speaker 2: FEMA is already stretched thin. It's already a political issue now,
Speaker 2: and this could be the next couple of weeks, with
Speaker 2: only four weeks to go from today. And then this
Speaker 2: a new hypersonic jet that's being built that will take
Speaker 2: travelers back and forth between New York and London in
Speaker 2: under an hour. Wow. So I don't have an East
Speaker 2: coast analogy, but on the West coast it'd be like
Speaker 2: San Francisco, LA and back and forth like you know,
Speaker 2: a little under an hour, except you'd be going from
Speaker 2: New York to LA. Didn't that be cool? I mean London,
Speaker 2: wouldn't that be cool? That's three times faster than even
Speaker 2: the concord back in the day. If you're old enough
Speaker 2: to remember that, it says, I think it would be
Speaker 2: more like, uh, San Francisco to Hawaii and under an hour?
Speaker 2: Yeah I think so. Oh No, I was just I
Speaker 2: was just talking about time, So it would be like
Speaker 2: the time and it takes what you're saying. Francisco at LA,
Speaker 2: So be going right Claire across the ocean thirty five
Speaker 2: hundred miles right right right?
Speaker 7: Wow for a mere five million dollars for a coach seat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably far.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My point was just that people commute back and forth
Speaker 2: between San Francisco and LA regularly for business meetings because
Speaker 2: it's so short. Could you do that between New York
Speaker 2: and London? Maybe? Maybe soon? Probably be a little pricey.
Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 7: Boy, you gotta taste for fish and chips, you think, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'll fly to London, go to the airport. Yeah, let's
Speaker 7: get a final thought from everybody on the crew. There
Speaker 7: he is our technical director, Michelangelo lead us off.
Speaker 2: Michael.
Speaker 5: You know in the last storm coverage you were seeing
Speaker 5: people running in the background holding Trump flags. I don't
Speaker 5: think they're going to be doing that in this hurricane.
Speaker 7: No, No, you're right, Katie Greener esteemed Newswoman.
Speaker 2: As a final thought, Katie.
Speaker 4: I will say, though, we do have one girl who
Speaker 4: claims to have an only fans who just went around
Speaker 4: and pretended to board up her Florida home in her underwear.
Speaker 2: So that's some some low class lord.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you for that special sort of something, well.
Speaker 2: No supply and demand. If you're the sort of dude
Speaker 2: that clicks on that, have some self respect, Good lord, Jack.
Speaker 2: Final thought, don't be let around by your penis your
Speaker 2: whole life.
Speaker 7: Wow boy, use your intelot you'll see the latest victim
Speaker 7: of the hurricanes smarter than an ape or a running hog.
Speaker 2: Good lord.
Speaker 7: I guess that'll be our final thought, unless you have
Speaker 7: another one you'd like to throw in.
Speaker 2: That's it. Oh goodness. Among things we didn't get today,
Speaker 2: get to you today.
Speaker 7: My final thought will be this Kamala Harris struggling to
Speaker 7: break through with working class voters, the in government her
Speaker 7: entire life, daughter of two Marxist professors. It's having trouble
Speaker 7: connecting with the working men and women of America.
Speaker 2: That is weird politician, she said last night. She's been
Speaker 2: in public service. Who public service? She's serving the public?
Speaker 2: Armstrong in Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 7: I'm in the public. Thanks a lot, so many, Google,
Speaker 7: thanks a little time. Good to Armstrong and getdy dot com.
Speaker 7: You'll see a chance to donate to the good folks
Speaker 7: North Carolina who are so beleaguered by that last hurricane.
Speaker 2: Give us a note. If you get time, we'll see
Speaker 2: you tomorrow. God bless America. I'm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 3: This has to stop, and it has to stop like
Speaker 3: the day before yesterday.
Speaker 5: It is a painful moment.
Speaker 1: We get that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, are you sure? Oh dead shore, So let's
Speaker 2: go out with a bang.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just do nothing but blow up completely.
Speaker 2: Don't take a breath in hold, you took it, your held.
Speaker 2: I understand. Never mind never I don't understand. Now, Thank
Speaker 2: you all very much, Armstrong and Getty