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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: I'm strong and get and he.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good.

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Speaker 1: Katie.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to explain to us what the hell

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Speaker 2: this is we're hearing here. So apparently there's this internet

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Speaker 2: trend going on, an internet trend. You say it's an

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Speaker 2: internet trend.

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Speaker 4: And apparently if you exhale all the way, get all

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Speaker 4: the air completely out of your lungs, and then you

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Speaker 4: try to scream, you make some form of a noise

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha, the exhale and scream challenge. I'll do that

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Speaker 2: with my kids today for fun. Take a video, let

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Speaker 2: us know what it goes. I'll do it with one

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Speaker 2: of my kids. My high school kid is no longer

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Speaker 2: interested in anything whimsical. He is just gloom. Teenager. What

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Speaker 2: the official uniform of teenager? Though?

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Speaker 4: The whole reason I disgust, I wanted to see if

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Speaker 4: Michelangelo could do it.

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Speaker 2: Michael, do that for us on Mike. Exhale completely, then

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Speaker 2: try to scream, Okay, here we go, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Oh you took you in, healed you didn't. You didn't

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Speaker 2: exhale enough either, it completely exhaed. Okay, no, you inhaled again.

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Speaker 2: You can't in here, I'm took blew out. Then you

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Speaker 2: took a breath.

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Speaker 5: Okay, me blow I'm gonna just nothing but blow out completely.

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Speaker 2: Don't take a breath in.

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Speaker 6: You took it.

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Speaker 2: You I never mind never I don't understand. I'm just

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Speaker 2: going out.

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Speaker 5: That's the why I excel.

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Speaker 2: You do not take a breath. You are taking the

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Speaker 2: fact that you're not following these instructions is I'm just

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Speaker 2: blow out, right, Okay, Katie, we gotta go. No, We're

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Speaker 2: not gonna go through this again.

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Speaker 7: Michael, Michael, you blow out, you go and then you

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Speaker 7: go and then you scream.

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Speaker 2: You're not supposed.

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Speaker 5: To leave out to last try Okay, so just blow

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Speaker 5: and scream, but but don't write.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, all right, everywhere, So earlier, earlier,

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Speaker 2: all right, Katie, for the podcast you need to do.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear you try to do it. Okay, podcast.

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Speaker 7: You know, the only thing I took away from that

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Speaker 7: is how incredibly infectious laughter is listening to those numb skulls.

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Speaker 7: Try to do the numbskullish challenge of the day. But

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Speaker 7: they're all laughing, so you just can't help but you know, giggle. Anyway,

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Speaker 7: I talked about this earlier today. I think it was

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Speaker 7: our two. Maybe some economists have finally woken up to

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Speaker 7: the fact that human beings are not like computerized decision makers.

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Speaker 7: There are all sorts of things that enter into economics.

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Speaker 7: In particular, as Nobel Prize winning economist George Akerloff and

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Speaker 7: his collaborator Rachel Cranton said wrote years and years ago,

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Speaker 7: identity may be the most important economic decision people make,

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Speaker 7: and it has to do with how you see yourself,

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Speaker 7: how you want to project an identity, what group of

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Speaker 7: people do you consider yourself part of? And you make

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Speaker 7: all sorts of economic decisions based on not rational analysis,

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Speaker 2: If I had known this was part of economics when

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Speaker 2: I was in college, I could have easily made it

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Speaker 2: But if I'd have known all this other stuff that

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Speaker 7: Would you call it psychoeconomics, socioeconomics or something like that.

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Speaker 7: But they gave the example of an academic economist, not coincidentally,

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Speaker 7: that's who we're talking about. That would be a social category,

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Speaker 7: and that's the way they would see themselves or part

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Speaker 7: of that group whatever. So they probably own a practical

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Speaker 7: car and wear comfortable shoes, and if they showed up

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Speaker 7: five hundred dollars loafers, they would all not only feel

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Speaker 7: mocked and scorned by colleagues. In traditional economics, it's hard

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Speaker 7: But that that really affects decisions they go into.

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Speaker 2: Like individual when you go to buy a pair of

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Speaker 2: They're limited to your identity. It has to shit into

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Speaker 2: it fits into a view you heavy of yourself, where

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Speaker 2: you want other people to have of you, or you

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Speaker 7: And then they talk about individual gains from both material

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Speaker 7: outcomes and actions that conform to their identities blah blah blah,

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Speaker 7: and labor markets workers or motived by wages, of course,

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Speaker 7: but also by how well their job aligns with their identities.

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Speaker 7: They give the example of a corporate job might offer

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Speaker 7: financial stability, but if it conflicts with an individual's identity

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Speaker 7: is an environmentalist, for instance, that's going to lead to

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Speaker 7: satisfaction and underperformance in this vein, trying to train coal

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Speaker 2: And Jack, I love the idea you gave when we

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Speaker 2: were talking about this. If you remember, I don't you said,

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Speaker 2: trying to train farmers because the family farmers disappearing to

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Speaker 2: be coders, have them sit in a cubicle ten hours

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Speaker 2: a day to code, they would hang themselves. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: you hear politicians throw that around all the time, like

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Speaker 2: sort of person to be a completely different sort of person.

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Speaker 2: And as the point of what you're saying is, it's

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Speaker 2: not just about the money.

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Speaker 7: So there's other research by a couple of guys you've

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Speaker 7: never heard of to provide a granular look into the

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Speaker 7: mechanics of this phenomenon. DOTI is based on lab experiments

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Speaker 7: that prime subjects to see different parts of their identities.

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Speaker 7: Is especially salient demonstrate that people may out for lower

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Speaker 7: fitting in with their social group, or might choose consumer

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Speaker 7: goods that signal affiliation to a particular identity despite higher

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Speaker 7: time in fashion police. So they go into that at

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Speaker 7: some length, and it's very very interesting. We'll post link

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Speaker 7: at Armstrong and getty dot com under hot links. But

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Speaker 7: then let's see that they go more deeply into that

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Speaker 7: diverges from traditional notions of comparative advantage typically applied to

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Speaker 7: writs this journalist across the country. Many assume that heredity

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Speaker 7: largely dictated the identities to.

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Speaker 2: Which people gravitated.

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Speaker 7: We investigated the academic paths chosen by students in racially

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Speaker 7: comparative advantages. Interesting, and this is something that we and

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Speaker 7: others have observed through the years, and people are extremely

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Speaker 7: uncomfortable talking about. But we all ought to grow up

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Speaker 7: you better reckon with reality anyway. A student who sees

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Speaker 7: his strength in social leadership rather than academic achievement might

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Speaker 7: choose to invest more in social endeavors. This decision is

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Speaker 7: self fulfillment and importantly social recognition. Booty or booty Yeah?

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Speaker 7: In other research, who is I? I haven't mentioned the

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Speaker 7: name of the person writing this, Roland Fryar, who's an

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Speaker 2: Anyway, or were we?

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Speaker 7: In other research, I found that black and Hispanic students

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Speaker 7: which was not true for white students. This was in

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Speaker 7: line with previous works suggesting that high achieving black students

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Speaker 7: also illuminates how gender norms can influence field of study choices.

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Speaker 7: Women might avoid STEM fields not because a lack of

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is really interesting. That may have changed since

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Speaker 2: so it would make sense that popularity and high school

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Speaker 2: The most popular people were absolutely not the people with

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Speaker 7: One moment, I'm sorry, one more example, and then I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm one thing, and it's funny. Tim Sandifer and I.

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Speaker 7: One of the few like significant diff disagreements we've ever

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Speaker 7: bluntly and skilllessly. I'm sure Tim expressed his opinion much

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Speaker 7: And there are some very love people, very nice people

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Speaker 7: most real individualists don't experience in the same way, right,

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Speaker 7: And so you've got to remember, when you're thinking about

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Speaker 2: Hmm, yeah, especially for talking economics like you said earlier,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you just do need to observe or take

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Speaker 2: You recently surprised people when you said that you are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I because she got asked that, say so,

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Speaker 6: Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than

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Speaker 7: Listen, we agreed on ninety five percent of policy occasionally.

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Speaker 2: There there, we got to back it up, so you

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Speaker 6: And so then we had a puzzle, so we went

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Speaker 6: back up to work on the puzzle. I'm still in

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Speaker 6: my workout clothes and we're working on the puzzle and

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Speaker 6: the phone rings, so I said, Auntie, he'll be right back. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: I went back into the room where the girls were

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, go get your father because I knew.

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Speaker 1: He'd be somewhere, and.

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Speaker 6: So we laughed afterwards, Nick as their father. We laughed

446
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Speaker 6: that Almara the elder one was kind of like Paul Revere,

447
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Speaker 6: and Leela the younger one was Paul Revere's course.

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Speaker 2: You know, killed me several interesting things about that. I

449
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Speaker 2: don't know why Whoopy found it so fascinating that she

450
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Speaker 2: was still in her workout clothes when she went up

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Speaker 2: to take the pH uncle. I was still in my

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Speaker 2: working clothes. Oh, all right. But did Kamala not see

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Speaker 2: that coming or think it was going to happen on

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Speaker 2: that timeline? And then it's interesting that did it immediately?

455
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Speaker 2: Did she immediately think I'm the nominee then, because that

456
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Speaker 2: didn't have to play out that way at all.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, I would guess she was ready to implement to

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Speaker 7: Plan nine from Alameda to get the nomination.

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Speaker 2: She and her peeps had been talking about it, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because if you remember how that was going on, I mean,

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Speaker 2: everybody was talking about it there for days and days

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Speaker 2: and days. If he steps down, will Kamala bee should

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Speaker 2: they have a primary? Carvel pushed for that to have

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Speaker 2: a mini primary and just all that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure like Joe said, she was angling behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes to try to squash that quickly. All right, now,

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Speaker 2: I see I need a jury of my peers, and

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Speaker 2: you people, while you were absolutely my peers, I just

469
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Speaker 2: I know which way you're gonna vote.

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Speaker 7: I found that story very annoying. First, I was born annoyed,

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Speaker 7: as Jack knows. But I found it very very annoying. Uh,

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Speaker 7: in all the extraneous details about cooking shows and workouts

473
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Speaker 7: and wanting more bacon and Auntie this and and and.

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Speaker 2: Is it because a I just don't like her?

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Speaker 7: Is it because that's the way a woman would tell

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Speaker 7: the story? And I'm a dude allegedly, well allegedly dude,

477
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Speaker 7: or I mean, why did I find that so annoying?

478
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Speaker 7: The answer to the question was I was with family.

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Speaker 7: We were actually working on a puzzle, and they told

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Speaker 7: me a call came in and I.

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Speaker 2: Took that call just the maybe it's a woman thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: There was nothing wrong with it. It was kind of

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Speaker 7: a charming story about familial love.

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Speaker 2: I just I felt like it reeked of effort to

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Speaker 2: try to throw in as many charming anecdotes as possible. Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's yes, Well, said.

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Speaker 4: Well, alleged, dude, I don't think all women tell stories

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Speaker 4: that way.

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Speaker 7: So well, I know, but that's what I was thinking

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Speaker 7: of you when I said this is not going to

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Speaker 7: be a good jury because you have no patience for that.

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Speaker 2: That's true. But I feel like she's just working so

494
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Speaker 2: hard the bacon. We all love bacon, and you know

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Speaker 2: how that goes. I was doing puzzles with the kids,

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Speaker 2: because that's a good mom sort of thing to do,

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Speaker 2: doing puzzles with the kids. I was cooking breakfast like

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Speaker 2: a regular mom anywhere in the country on us. Anything

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Speaker 2: she can do to be relatable. I'm in workout gear. Huh, moms,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking a whole being in workout pants. Right,

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Speaker 2: We've all been in those pants, haven't we woke this?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, but that whole They asked for bacon because

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Speaker 7: they wanted more bacon.

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Speaker 2: You know how that goes, because we all love bacon. Huh,

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Speaker 2: who's with me? Who likes bacon? Now, let's go be president.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I just it was cloying, I guess. And I don't

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Speaker 7: want to be unfair or knee jerk. I mean, I

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Speaker 7: can't help it with her, Like I said, earlier.

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Speaker 2: I did not knee jerk dislike Bill Clinton or Barack Obama.

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Speaker 2: I kneed jerk dislike her or Joe Biden. I just,

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Speaker 2: I just I'm appalled by her presence. I don't and

513
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Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure what. Yeah, Joe Biden became appalling.

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is a p A lot of his policies

515
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Speaker 2: I'm appalled at and things he says and does. But like,

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Speaker 2: I don't if I walked into a room and he

517
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Speaker 2: was here, I wouldn't recoil with disgust. I would with her.

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Speaker 2: I just I really can't stand her personality, and I'm

519
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Speaker 2: not exactly sure what it is. Yeah, ah, shut up?

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Speaker 2: Got trying so hard? Or can you be human for

521
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Speaker 2: a moment and not sound like you're trying to be something?

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Speaker 7: Were any of those details fundamental to understanding or enjoying

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Speaker 7: the story. The fact that she'd been working out watching

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Speaker 7: cooking shows Auntie, what's this ingradio?

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Speaker 2: I feel like it was a consultant list of relations,

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Speaker 2: list ten relatable things from a Sunday morning home, and

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Speaker 2: she did them in order. That's what she sounds like

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Speaker 2: all the time to me. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm just a misogynist. Maybe that's it. And yet they're tired, Okay,

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Speaker 2: yeah they are tying. Yeah, no doubt. God dang it.

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Speaker 2: That election night. I heard Chris Steyerwalt the other day

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Speaker 2: with the Dispatch, and he is the person that called

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Speaker 2: Arizona for Fox. He's the one that he was the

534
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Speaker 2: first in America to declare Trump the winner, got fired

535
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Speaker 2: from Fox for it even though he was right. But

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Speaker 2: he thinks he will know by six thirty eastern. They

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Speaker 2: say nine to thirty eastern or six thirty eastern who's

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Speaker 2: gonna win because of how I think he said North

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Speaker 2: Carolina and Michigan go anyway, but that that could be

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Speaker 2: a heck of a night. That could be a heck

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Speaker 2: of a night. I'm gonna be I'm going to clear.

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Speaker 2: I might get a sitter just so I need to

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Speaker 2: be a I can't. I can't have a dad. I'm

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Speaker 2: hungry or my homework. I gotta be on. I gotta

545
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Speaker 2: be paying attention to this. It's gonna be crazy lifetime.

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Speaker 2: I agree completely.

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Speaker 7: I got to brew up some some coffee or pick

548
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 7: up some street meth or something because I went to

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Speaker 7: bed or early. Much more earlier than you are. I

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Speaker 7: stayed up till sixteen. I stayed up till like two

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Speaker 7: in the morning. That was the dysfunctional, the greatest night

552
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Speaker 7: of my life. I was not going to go to

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Speaker 7: bed on that, no way. I was so excited. I

554
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Speaker 7: had to stay up until Trump come out. And then

555
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Speaker 7: I want to see if Hillary came out.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's Katie Perry is crying, crying, Share is crying. Anyway,

557
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Speaker 2: we'll finish strong next, it's an election bill.

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Speaker 1: Strong.

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Speaker 2: Three things I want to fit in here in the

560
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Speaker 2: final couple of minutes. One there's a new Bob Woodward

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Speaker 2: book out called War. It's about Trump's dealing with Ukraine

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Speaker 2: and COVID, I think, and then Biden dealing with Ukraine

563
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Speaker 2: in Israel.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Just reminding everybody, this is not our first rodeo on

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Speaker 2: Bob Woodward. This happens every single time. And I always

567
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: pointed out because nobody actually reads the books but me

568
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: and a few other people. I actually read these books.

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Speaker 2: The quotes you're going to hear that have already started

570
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: are incredibly misleading every single time, every single time, very

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Speaker 2: very misleading as to what the book is actually about.

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Speaker 2: Or I was gonna say, are insignificant. Yes, just whatever

573
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Speaker 2: is the most gossipy, the hottest gossip for the DC

574
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: Beltway crap, which is smart for selling a book, But

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Speaker 2: just keep that in mind when you hear some of

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Speaker 2: the stuff. Another thing, this Hurricane Milton that is headed

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Speaker 2: toward Florida. Some of deal just are saying they might

578
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Speaker 2: have to come with a category six for this one.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna start having hurricanes like this. It is

580
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Speaker 2: almost at the limit of what a hurricane could be

581
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Speaker 2: on planet Earth in terms of wind speed and power.

582
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: The meteorologists say, yeah, the right.

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Speaker 7: Dave Berg, the Iowa Hawk blog guy, responded with it

584
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Speaker 7: goes to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So what it's actually like and how much water

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Speaker 2: it forces onto Tampa remains to be seen. But man,

587
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Speaker 2: FEMA is already stretched thin. It's already a political issue now,

588
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Speaker 2: and this could be the next couple of weeks, with

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Speaker 2: only four weeks to go from today. And then this

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Speaker 2: a new hypersonic jet that's being built that will take

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Speaker 2: travelers back and forth between New York and London in

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Speaker 2: under an hour. Wow. So I don't have an East

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Speaker 2: coast analogy, but on the West coast it'd be like

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Speaker 2: San Francisco, LA and back and forth like you know,

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Speaker 2: a little under an hour, except you'd be going from

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Speaker 2: New York to LA. Didn't that be cool? I mean London,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't that be cool? That's three times faster than even

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Speaker 2: the concord back in the day. If you're old enough

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Speaker 2: to remember that, it says, I think it would be

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Speaker 2: more like, uh, San Francisco to Hawaii and under an hour?

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Speaker 2: Yeah I think so. Oh No, I was just I

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Speaker 2: was just talking about time, So it would be like

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Speaker 2: the time and it takes what you're saying. Francisco at LA,

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Speaker 2: So be going right Claire across the ocean thirty five

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Speaker 2: hundred miles right right right?

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Speaker 7: Wow for a mere five million dollars for a coach seat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably far.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My point was just that people commute back and forth

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Speaker 2: between San Francisco and LA regularly for business meetings because

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Speaker 2: it's so short. Could you do that between New York

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Speaker 2: and London? Maybe? Maybe soon? Probably be a little pricey.

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Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 7: Boy, you gotta taste for fish and chips, you think, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'll fly to London, go to the airport. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 7: get a final thought from everybody on the crew. There

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Speaker 7: he is our technical director, Michelangelo lead us off.

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Speaker 2: Michael.

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Speaker 5: You know in the last storm coverage you were seeing

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Speaker 5: people running in the background holding Trump flags. I don't

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Speaker 5: think they're going to be doing that in this hurricane.

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Speaker 7: No, No, you're right, Katie Greener esteemed Newswoman.

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Speaker 2: As a final thought, Katie.

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Speaker 4: I will say, though, we do have one girl who

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Speaker 4: claims to have an only fans who just went around

627
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Speaker 4: and pretended to board up her Florida home in her underwear.

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Speaker 2: So that's some some low class lord.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, if you for that special sort of something, well.

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Speaker 2: No supply and demand. If you're the sort of dude

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Speaker 2: that clicks on that, have some self respect, Good lord, Jack.

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Speaker 2: Final thought, don't be let around by your penis your

633
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Speaker 2: whole life.

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Speaker 7: Wow boy, use your intelot you'll see the latest victim

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Speaker 7: of the hurricanes smarter than an ape or a running hog.

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Speaker 2: Good lord.

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Speaker 7: I guess that'll be our final thought, unless you have

638
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Speaker 7: another one you'd like to throw in.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Oh goodness. Among things we didn't get today,

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Speaker 2: get to you today.

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Speaker 7: My final thought will be this Kamala Harris struggling to

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Speaker 7: break through with working class voters, the in government her

643
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 7: entire life, daughter of two Marxist professors. It's having trouble

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Speaker 7: connecting with the working men and women of America.

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Speaker 2: That is weird politician, she said last night. She's been

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Speaker 2: in public service. Who public service? She's serving the public?

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Speaker 2: Armstrong in Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

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Speaker 7: I'm in the public. Thanks a lot, so many, Google,

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00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 7: thanks a little time. Good to Armstrong and getdy dot com.

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Speaker 7: You'll see a chance to donate to the good folks

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Speaker 7: North Carolina who are so beleaguered by that last hurricane.

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Speaker 2: Give us a note. If you get time, we'll see

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow. God bless America. I'm Strong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: This has to stop, and it has to stop like

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Speaker 3: the day before yesterday.

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Speaker 5: It is a painful moment.

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Speaker 1: We get that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, are you sure? Oh dead shore, So let's

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Speaker 2: go out with a bang.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna just do nothing but blow up completely.

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Speaker 2: Don't take a breath in hold, you took it, your held.

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Speaker 2: I understand. Never mind never I don't understand. Now, Thank

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Speaker 2: you all very much, Armstrong and Getty