Speaker 1: What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealer's podcast with your host, Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses, Malone, How are you feeling about this modern battle,
Speaker 1: this disc record battle that's going on right now? Still,
Speaker 1: I think it's good for hip hop? Why is it
Speaker 1: good for hip hop? That's such a generic thing to say.
Speaker 2: Well, it is generic, but it's the whole premise.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: You know, hip hop is braggadocios at its core. You know,
Speaker 2: you got guys that brag about that jury, how many
Speaker 2: women they knocking down, how much dough they got. You know,
Speaker 2: it's telling the story right and hip hop, you know,
Speaker 2: as far as back as I can remember when l
Speaker 2: came out, he had a record called I'm Bad Your
Speaker 2: rapper can rap quite like I can. I take a
Speaker 2: muscle bomb man and put his face into sind Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know it's a competition.
Speaker 1: I guess that is like an extension of poverty. It's
Speaker 1: an extension of poverty for sure, to overcompensate for the
Speaker 1: lack thereof I mean as far as poor people bragging
Speaker 1: about exactly what they have. So I guess I can
Speaker 1: I can somewhat deal with that where I'm at right now,
Speaker 1: I'm just hella disinterested, Like Pete, where are you at
Speaker 1: with it?
Speaker 4: I'm so prejudicially biased against it that I've gone out
Speaker 4: of my way to avoid having to be exposed to it.
Speaker 4: But my opinion on it is I think for the
Speaker 4: sake of the genre, it's probably a good thing that
Speaker 4: you could have an old school style like hip hop
Speaker 4: beef that was lyrically based and not necessarily like.
Speaker 1: This the foggy opaque.
Speaker 4: Are we really rapping? Or am I making coded threats
Speaker 4: against your life? Type? You know, street beef type of
Speaker 4: shit that kind of dominated the space for a couple
Speaker 4: decades there. It feels like a throwback to the early
Speaker 4: eighties or something like that.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the early eighties was about kicking your
Speaker 1: ass too, But I definitely agree that in today's time,
Speaker 1: I don't think nobody's gonna even pinch each other. So
Speaker 1: I do think this is one of the rare times.
Speaker 1: Because even as a little kid, and I go back
Speaker 1: and I listened to you know, Shan and Chris battling,
Speaker 1: I didn't know if I never got the feeling that
Speaker 1: if they came across each other, they wouldn't fight. I
Speaker 1: even thought KRS one and Shan would even fight, especially
Speaker 1: after the bridge is over. Like I just knew that
Speaker 1: they fucking fight, Like I I would believe they fight,
Speaker 1: And I felt that way about every big battle until then,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's moving forward, you know, NWA versus
Speaker 1: let's say, you know, dice Cube. I thought they would fight,
Speaker 1: and if I remember correctly, still they did fight, right,
Speaker 1: Ruthless and n w A and CBE did. Did the
Speaker 1: lynch Mob and n W and Ruthless ever get into it?
Speaker 2: They did, right, you know, they didn't get into it
Speaker 2: personally above the low caught Cube and then at the
Speaker 2: new music seminar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ruthless versus Lynch Mob, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and the ship talking led to a little fight.
Speaker 2: From what the homie go Mac tells me, they caught
Speaker 2: Cube slipping, but it didn't get as bad as people
Speaker 2: thought it was. And then the few people in the mouth,
Speaker 2: but that was the extent of.
Speaker 1: It, and then the nw A excuse me, then the
Speaker 1: Ruthless versus Death row right over dre Day and real
Speaker 1: motherfucking geez right where you know, they ran into each
Speaker 1: other at the golf course right, and then it was
Speaker 1: the dog Pound versus you know, Drasta and the ruthless,
Speaker 1: the ruthless cap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Nate Dog gonna work them dudes out with
Speaker 2: the nine.
Speaker 1: Iron, Nate hit drasd upside they had with a golf club.
Speaker 2: A nine iron to be exact, the heaviest one, so
Speaker 2: ethically funny.
Speaker 1: And yeah it was funny.
Speaker 2: And you know, see one thing that we will say
Speaker 2: at that time, like you go back to the kras
Speaker 2: one and MC saying stuff. I never thought for one
Speaker 2: single moment nobody was gonna get into a fight.
Speaker 1: You never thought they would, or you thought they would
Speaker 1: get into a fight if they saw each other.
Speaker 2: I thought they wouldn't. Man, You know what, the most
Speaker 2: you can expect back then was for somebody to possibly
Speaker 2: get punched in the mouth or something. That's It wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna never be no gunplay. It wasn't gonna never be
Speaker 2: nothing like that because that fell outside the essence of
Speaker 2: hip hop. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No, I don't agree with that. I hate when y'all
Speaker 1: say that.
Speaker 4: In the in the beginning though they would like battle
Speaker 4: rap like face to face.
Speaker 1: Live and shit like that.
Speaker 2: You know That's what I'm saying, bro, It never got it,
Speaker 2: never got that, it never got personal like that.
Speaker 1: I totally disagree. That's not what they said. But I
Speaker 1: understand the narrative that all the early hip hoppers want
Speaker 1: to push. So I'm not gonna get in the way
Speaker 1: of that. But that's not true.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've actually talked to people that was
Speaker 2: actually there during those times, like when Eel had his battles. Now,
Speaker 2: when Ice Tea and LHL had they thing. Iced T
Speaker 2: had numerous opportunities to where if he wanted to get
Speaker 2: ills he had knocked off, he could because there would
Speaker 2: be somebody called him all the time. Hey, I got
Speaker 2: him in my sights right now, What you want me
Speaker 2: to do? Ice didn't want nothing like that to happen.
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I wouldn't agree with Ice T and l
Speaker 1: But Shan and Chris that was a little bit more serious,
Speaker 1: you know what bro at least from their perspective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it was led to the point
Speaker 2: nobody getting hurt, Like it wouldn't gonna be on no
Speaker 2: Biggie and Tupac stuff.
Speaker 1: But Biggie and Tupac, nobody got hurt because of Biggie
Speaker 1: and Tupac Like that wasn't about rap beef. Pac didn't
Speaker 1: die over rap beef. Biggie didn't die over rap beef.
Speaker 1: You know, they had separate situations happening that led to
Speaker 1: their death. It wasn't about because they really didn't have
Speaker 1: a real beef, right, they didn't have a real beef.
Speaker 2: Well to an extent, dog it did. Everything kind of
Speaker 2: was a derivative. Oh don't, dude was beefing you think
Speaker 2: about it, you know from Pluff off from people money.
Speaker 1: But that's not really true.
Speaker 2: Oh so Puff didn't offer nobody no money. No, yeah
Speaker 2: he did, bro what's his name? Mouth?
Speaker 1: He was lying.
Speaker 2: So you think Keithy di gonna makes something that E
Speaker 2: left bright up to say that this man was going
Speaker 2: to put a million dollars on his head.
Speaker 4: You think he lined, yes, what's going to and did
Speaker 4: are different and it's just a lie.
Speaker 2: I just think with these records, man, I think it
Speaker 2: comes to a point, you know, recently on our show,
Speaker 2: it's a piece going around right now where eight said
Speaker 2: at some point you might as well just fight. I
Speaker 2: think when you get too personal on records, man, it
Speaker 2: can't lead to somebody, you know. I can think it
Speaker 2: can't lead to some shit possible.
Speaker 1: No sellings, gl Pete doing what we do, Big Brother
Speaker 1: still Gangster Rap chronicles. It's a difference between disc records
Speaker 1: and battling, you know what I mean, Like a battle
Speaker 1: is different, and a battle can lead fight, but this
Speaker 1: records are meant to be totally disrespectful. A battle, in
Speaker 1: his essence, is more about saying you're superior to someone
Speaker 1: like as an MC. A disc record is intended to
Speaker 1: be disrespectful to somebody else. Now, battle Rap has kind
Speaker 1: of fell into that space of disrespectful talk, but that
Speaker 1: wasn't the essence of battling right when they started, right,
Speaker 1: it was all about raising yourself up versus a disc record.
Speaker 1: It's all about putting somebody else down. But back to
Speaker 1: the Biggie and Toolpac. Pop didn't have a real problem
Speaker 1: with Biggie, Like he said this on multiple interviews, like
Speaker 1: he never really had an issue with Biggie. He has
Speaker 1: said in the interview with Vibe that if he thought
Speaker 1: Biggie had something to do with him being shot, it
Speaker 1: had been a different kind of problem. They didn't really
Speaker 1: have a real issue, like Pop. I've stood by this
Speaker 1: because the more I get into hip hop, and I
Speaker 1: understand the business. Pop understood the market viability of what
Speaker 1: Thish records do, Like what the what the competition does?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: If Puff and Big is really top tier in the
Speaker 1: space with Snoop Dogg and Dre, you grab that energy,
Speaker 1: right and you you use that energy to launch you
Speaker 1: into another you know, hemisphere. And he did that. But
Speaker 1: he said in different interviews that there was no real
Speaker 1: issue between him and Biggie or him and Puff, They
Speaker 1: didn't have a problem. He just used the situation and
Speaker 1: motivated himself to go to that level.
Speaker 2: Well, you knew what Paca initially tried to say. He
Speaker 2: tried to say that Big and bad Boy had something
Speaker 2: to do with him getting shot in quiet studios, and
Speaker 2: everybody knew that wasn't true. You know, Paco's given some money.
Speaker 1: But Pac never said that. You never said that. That
Speaker 1: was kind of what Okay, So if he does have
Speaker 1: any responsibility, that's the insinuation of actions. But he ever
Speaker 1: in his life said he thought Puff or Big, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Puff or Big has something to do with him getting shot. Now,
Speaker 1: whoever listen to those setlings. If I'm wrong, show me
Speaker 1: the fucking interview where he said, y'all, niggas have something
Speaker 1: to do with me being shot. He just always referenced
Speaker 1: his issue and the competitive nature were big and Puff
Speaker 1: with the fact he got shot in New York. So
Speaker 1: then people put two and two together and say, oh,
Speaker 1: this must be why he's upset. But really, if you
Speaker 1: listen to him interviews, he's talking about how Bigie took
Speaker 1: off and he felt like they forgot about him, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and nobody really was showing him love,
Speaker 1: and he just went through this traumatic experience, you know,
Speaker 1: of shooting himself in a really bad situation, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So he felt embarrassed, and then Puff
Speaker 1: used his circumstances to market himself. I mean Puff used
Speaker 1: his you know, pop situation of being shot and marketed,
Speaker 1: you know, using you know, the who shot you saw
Speaker 1: with Biggie to where it could be confusion. And I
Speaker 1: think POC saw that, you know, if you look at
Speaker 1: his book list, I think POC saw that shit and said, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. We're using tragedy to market ourselves
Speaker 1: into you know, success. Got you. So when he came home,
Speaker 1: he used everything to market himself into the number one spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think Tupac has alluded that they had
Speaker 2: something to do with that, or they knew that it
Speaker 2: was going to happen.
Speaker 1: When did he say that they had them to do it?
Speaker 4: I think that's disingenuous. I mean, the reality is that
Speaker 4: was what was swirling around. He had a million opportunities
Speaker 4: to invalidate that, and he went deliberately out of his
Speaker 4: way to avoid doing so.
Speaker 2: And I've just found some the source. The incident Acquired
Speaker 2: Studios is more than just the robbery gone wrong for
Speaker 2: Tupac's Corey. It was a betrayal. Biggie and Tupac at
Speaker 2: once been close friends, their bonb ruter than shared passion
Speaker 2: for hip hop, both artists hell from Background's rifle struggling hardship,
Speaker 2: which they funneled into their music, earning acclaim from fans
Speaker 2: and critics alike. However, after the Quad Studios incident, their
Speaker 2: friendship quickly slured. Secure openly accused Biggie, his label bad
Speaker 2: Boy Records, and Sean Puffy Combs of having prior knowledge
Speaker 2: of the shooting and accurate and accusation if Himmalley desnied.
Speaker 1: So you know, you know, you're just reading somebody's thoughts
Speaker 1: on it, Like you know, there.
Speaker 2: Was this was an investigation, bro. And this is what
Speaker 2: Tupac said. He said this openly, Bro. He believed that
Speaker 2: they had knowledge of it, not that they necessarily set
Speaker 2: it up, but he thinks they knew that it was
Speaker 2: going to happen.
Speaker 1: You changed two parts. Again, this is two different things,
Speaker 1: him saying they had something to do with it, and
Speaker 1: him then now you're saying that, oh, well, they knew
Speaker 1: it was going to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, see, I don't think they necessarily.
Speaker 1: It's way past it's not necessarily. They didn't have anything
Speaker 1: to do with it.
Speaker 2: They didn't have nothing to do with it. But he
Speaker 2: believed they had knowledge that it was gonna happen.
Speaker 4: It's the culpability of an action on both sides. He
Speaker 4: believes that they, by not acting or making mention of
Speaker 4: the fact that they had this knowledge, are a way
Speaker 4: indirectly comfortable.
Speaker 2: And I can see that. Let's say mean you go
Speaker 2: to Miami, right, we go down to to Miami and
Speaker 2: me and you somewhere we handle our business or whatever,
Speaker 2: and someone comes out of the woodwork and pull a
Speaker 2: pistol on you for making a song or whatever. They
Speaker 2: mad at you. Whatever we are going to think in
Speaker 2: our minds. Man, these dudes knew that was laughing. How
Speaker 2: did they know he was gonna be here? No, I
Speaker 2: would not think that. First off, this is a.
Speaker 4: Different I would get all the blame.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a different situation. Right, Like, if
Speaker 1: I did something to somebody in Miami, I have a
Speaker 1: really good chance to go to Miami that the person
Speaker 1: I did something to is going to be there waiting
Speaker 1: on me.
Speaker 2: Miami is a big city. They would have to have
Speaker 2: prior knowledge that she was coming down there for something.
Speaker 2: Point your exact location.
Speaker 1: Bro, that's a hell of square take and and I
Speaker 1: get what you're saying, But No, I would automatically think
Speaker 1: that this person would know I'm going to be around.
Speaker 1: There's nothing nobody can tell me that's gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: they had to do this.
Speaker 2: I would think.
Speaker 1: That it's so many people around the circle that somebody
Speaker 1: that knows me is going to tell them a glasses
Speaker 1: is around. But again, like I'm saying, like, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if pot said, hey, they they knew I was
Speaker 1: going to be here, so they helped blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Now if he's saying that Oh, they knew it was
Speaker 1: gonna happen. They had to know it was gonna happen, Like,
Speaker 1: how can they know a robbery is gonna happen unless
Speaker 1: you have more details about why somebody would be trying
Speaker 1: to rob you. Why would somebody why would somebody have
Speaker 1: details about somebody robbing you?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it could being inadverting too. I don't
Speaker 2: think they did it on purpose necessarily. It could be
Speaker 2: a matter of just somebody talking, Oh the holy cheek
Speaker 2: coming down, Oh the Holy pok gonna be over here tonight,
Speaker 2: we gonna be. If you're doing this and that's all
Speaker 2: it takes, then somebody else gon tell this person. But
Speaker 2: the thing is, I got smoked because he owed Jimmy
Speaker 2: Hinchmith a few dollars, and really it was supposed to
Speaker 2: be a warranting. The only reason he wound up getting
Speaker 2: shot was him trying to resist and reach for heat
Speaker 2: and all that other stuff. You know, I think they
Speaker 2: just meant to scare the dude.
Speaker 1: But at that point then if that's the case, then
Speaker 1: he would owe them money. So then him going to
Speaker 1: New York would be him risking knowing that, hey, I
Speaker 1: have some unsavory business going with somebody and there's a
Speaker 1: possibility that they can catch me. So how the fuck
Speaker 1: would that have something to do with anybody else that
Speaker 1: don't owe cuz no money.
Speaker 2: Well, then that's when you get the marketing right, Pop,
Speaker 2: Like you said, he was a marketing genius, and he
Speaker 2: understood that. You know what if I create this illusion
Speaker 2: that we got beef and they set me up and
Speaker 2: I got shot and I survived, You're already that was
Speaker 2: a big part of his whole spiel. Dog. In fact,
Speaker 2: he beat his shot multiple times and survived and now
Speaker 2: I'm coming back to wreap my finiance. You know. So
Speaker 2: that that was that man. Pot was a people forget man.
Speaker 2: Pop was an actor. Dog, He was a real actor.
Speaker 2: He was a great actor.
Speaker 4: I think also you kind of answered your all question
Speaker 4: like along the way, if you know you got a
Speaker 4: situation where somebody you come into their town, you're not
Speaker 4: going to call him in advance and to ham coming
Speaker 4: to your town.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go to their town.
Speaker 2: Well that's what I'm saying. He she, Yeah, was out
Speaker 2: there just like Biggie business in La Biggie should have been.
Speaker 2: This is the last place he should have been.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't even I don't there. I don't agree
Speaker 1: with that he had nothing to do with the nigga
Speaker 1: getting shot.
Speaker 2: He didn't, Bro, But just the circumstances, Bro, he shouldn't
Speaker 2: have got shot. He should still be here walking around.
Speaker 2: There's no way his mama should be grieving him.
Speaker 1: Agreed. But but then again, but then, but then again,
Speaker 1: like I always felt like Big was like an innocent
Speaker 1: casualty in that situation. But then again, when the Dog
Speaker 1: Pound dudes went to New York and they were shooting
Speaker 1: their video and then their video shoot got set, you know,
Speaker 1: they video shoot got shot up based off of some
Speaker 1: things that Biggie said on the radio allegedly, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He wasn't as innocent as I would
Speaker 1: like him to be. But pe to your point, it's
Speaker 1: like it's a little bit more trickier, right, It's like,
Speaker 1: I genuinely don't. I don't think they pop thought Big
Speaker 1: and Puff had nothing to do with him getting shot,
Speaker 1: nor did they know, nor did they have any state
Speaker 1: or he thought that maybe when you get shot, there
Speaker 1: there is a traumatic response, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: That makes you paranoid. Right, So there's the initial thing
Speaker 1: whereas like I don't know what the fuck is going on.
Speaker 1: I'm going through a lot of shit. I'm in pain,
Speaker 1: I'm in a hospital, blah blah blah. Now there could
Speaker 1: be a pari that sets in on the mind.
Speaker 2: I would imagine, I'll say, you know, I would imagine
Speaker 2: even extremely paranoid.
Speaker 4: Like hypothetically, if you know, all right, I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: do this track with these guys out in lag. I
Speaker 4: got the situation. I'm a sliding real quick, knock it out.
Speaker 4: I'm ana slide out, and no one really knows when, where,
Speaker 4: or any of these variables that matter to execute something
Speaker 4: like that. And then it happens, you go, shit, only
Speaker 4: three people even know I was out here.
Speaker 1: But that I wouldn't believe that. As Tupacshakor in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four, like I'm Tupacshakor, I'm in the biggest movie
Speaker 1: as far as urban mute, you know, as far as
Speaker 1: urban culture in the last five years. At that point,
Speaker 1: I'm in juice. Everybody sees me like, I don't care
Speaker 1: what I do. Everybody's gonna see me. The security guard
Speaker 1: who actually is supposed to actually be the one that
Speaker 1: contacted and helped to facilitate whatever happened because that was
Speaker 1: the person. But I'm also Tupac Shakurt, Like there's no
Speaker 1: way possible Pete as a street guy if I got
Speaker 1: into it with TI. Right, Let's say I have an
Speaker 1: issue with TI, right, and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I took something from TI or like still as saying, right,
Speaker 1: I took some money from TI. Now TI is looking
Speaker 1: for me because I don't want to give him this money,
Speaker 1: so I know we have a problem. I'm not flying
Speaker 1: into Atlanta without knowing something is going to happen to me.
Speaker 1: It's like it was. It was a beef in a
Speaker 1: dish record situation between x Tens tasi On from Miami
Speaker 1: and a kid named Rob Stone from San Diego, right,
Speaker 1: and they had some records back and forth. Ex rest
Speaker 1: in Peace went to San Diego to do a concert
Speaker 1: and then when he's on stage doing a concert, somebody
Speaker 1: comes from the back and just knocks him out on
Speaker 1: the stage. Rest in Peace to the man, but he
Speaker 1: got knocked out on the stage, and I remember saying
Speaker 1: that shit like on Twitter and saying, like, why the
Speaker 1: fuck would you go to San Diego after you just
Speaker 1: had this back and forth with records with this person
Speaker 1: where you're saying flagrant shit, you're saying fucked up shit,
Speaker 1: you popping it.
Speaker 4: I get that. But he did, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2: And I think when you're in a situation like that,
Speaker 2: you have to expect some kind of uh, you gotta
Speaker 2: expect something if you gonna beat that flagrant man and
Speaker 2: go to a man city after you're gonna talk cash shit,
Speaker 2: you kind of deserve whatever happened to you. You kind
Speaker 2: of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think you inviting trouble or at least you know
Speaker 1: something can happen. I would hope you believe something can happen.
Speaker 2: You, butter be kind ext of. And one thing I
Speaker 2: want to go back to, and this is not no
Speaker 2: knock at all, is that Biggie what? No street dude?
Speaker 2: I think everybody knew that Biggie was just a phenomenal rapper,
Speaker 2: you know, talking to Homie Doggy down, it's just Doggy
Speaker 2: Dowmond's newly in personally.
Speaker 1: No, I don't believe. I don't believe you are Doggy.
Speaker 1: I believe Biggie was a street dude. So you think
Speaker 1: Biggie was, So you think dog Gee? Why do you
Speaker 1: think everybody lying when they say something, cause niggas be lying.
Speaker 2: That wasn't no dis I don't think dog would lie
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: I think he's lying. I think he'spect Okay, they didn't
Speaker 1: do a lot of the ship. He said on records
Speaker 1: that the context, though, that's far away from saying he's
Speaker 1: not a street dude. You said he's not a street dude.
Speaker 1: I don't believe.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it around him were street cats.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I think you and Doggie is full of shit.
Speaker 2: Well I didn't say enoughing. I'm telling you what don't
Speaker 2: boy said. And I think that Biggie was a dude
Speaker 2: to set up in the road wraps all day.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that either.
Speaker 2: I believe I believe it. Dog I don't think Doggy
Speaker 2: would have no. I don't see no reason from the line.
Speaker 2: And it's not like he's put that out there, pupple
Speaker 2: to try to get some mipe off over the something.
Speaker 2: He just said that Chris was just a cool dude.
Speaker 1: You and Doggie are my guys, both of you. Niggas
Speaker 1: is full of shit right now?
Speaker 2: Why am I full of shit? Because I'm reiterating something
Speaker 2: that the Homeboys said.
Speaker 1: And then you doubled down and said you believed it.
Speaker 2: I think you just want to believe your heroes are
Speaker 2: who they say they are.
Speaker 1: I don't think, no, I don't think.
Speaker 2: You tell me I'm lying about it until it actually
Speaker 2: comes up.
Speaker 1: It has never, it has never came up.
Speaker 2: It is I told you to have for these dudes
Speaker 2: the fruit cups, and you didn't want to believe.
Speaker 1: I asked you to show me which one you saw
Speaker 1: sucking a dick.
Speaker 4: So question is the story that did he or whatever
Speaker 4: when he was like trying to sign him or had
Speaker 4: just signed him, whatever, they were just getting some traction
Speaker 4: that he was trying to get him to cancel some
Speaker 4: trip out of town to buy a bunch of wholesale
Speaker 4: that was bs.
Speaker 2: Well, Biggie might have been moving on work. It's because
Speaker 2: you move a little bit of work. Don't mean it's
Speaker 2: no hardcore street dude.
Speaker 4: That's a spectrum off street talking. Of course, he ain't
Speaker 4: got a stack of bodies behind him, but he on
Speaker 4: the corner selling dopey, not a street dude.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: That's crazy that.
Speaker 2: I'm telling y'all. I'm reiterating. I didn't know Biggie, so
Speaker 2: I don't know what he was.
Speaker 1: Write down to. Let us have this conversation without you
Speaker 1: having that bullshit y'all you were saying.
Speaker 2: And I think that because it goes into context. What
Speaker 2: we're talking about is how he probable big wasn't even
Speaker 2: thinking about sitting that dude up or wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: capable of it.
Speaker 1: That does not say any of that. First off, those
Speaker 1: two things have nothing to do with each other. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Biggie was some kind of street guy. Was he fucking
Speaker 1: freeway Rick? Probably not, But that don't mean he's not
Speaker 1: a street dude. He's not. He's sitting in his room
Speaker 1: right wrast that ship, that's a fucking lie.
Speaker 4: There's a spec between like glasses of Malone and Drake.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Kendrick, you spectrum and for
Speaker 4: all we know, I think that's the ship of Selty.
Speaker 1: So Biggie is not a street dude and Drake is
Speaker 1: a street fucking.
Speaker 5: You know, the jury's out on Drake. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: just fucking with you now, Bro, Drake might be say
Speaker 5: which street him and up?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Do you understand street means where crime is happening that's what.
Speaker 2: Street means, you know what.
Speaker 4: In Toronto, And.
Speaker 2: Y'all tell me if y'all disagree. I think anybody that
Speaker 2: grew up in the communities that we all perspectives to
Speaker 2: come from, I think you have to be a street
Speaker 2: dude to a certain degree in order to survive.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a street dude just means you're a place
Speaker 1: where crime is happening, right, So, like where crime is happening,
Speaker 1: not like bad parking. People like crime, like get ahead
Speaker 1: of the right sure sure.
Speaker 2: Me personally, I'm far from the street dude. Right now,
Speaker 2: I'm squares a box of cereal. But there was a
Speaker 2: time that I so dope shot people beat people up
Speaker 2: there all kind of shit.
Speaker 1: We don't believe that much. You for sure would have
Speaker 1: been in your room, right and.
Speaker 2: Raps, No, I did you've heard confirmation on the ship.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I have not heard any confirmation.
Speaker 3: Well, big So, No, so Biggie is sitting in the room, right, so,
Speaker 3: Biggest So Biggiet sitting in this room.
Speaker 1: So Biggie is sitting in his room, right, Wraps. And
Speaker 1: you out here selling the rocks and shooting people and
Speaker 1: going to jail.
Speaker 2: That's for a time.
Speaker 1: So you the real biggie.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't say that. See you're twisted up something
Speaker 2: I've said. I was making the thing right now, I'm
Speaker 2: squares a box of cereal. I don't want no problem
Speaker 2: with nobody, But there was a time of my ignorance
Speaker 2: that I sold dope, shot folks, and did all kind
Speaker 2: of stupid shit.
Speaker 4: It's well beyond the statute of limitations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I ain't nen say I killed nobody. I ain't.
Speaker 2: I ain't. No, I ain't never go that far with ship.
Speaker 2: But I did a lot of dumb shit in my
Speaker 2: younger shot niggas. How you know they didn't die because
Speaker 2: I know they can't hit shit differ when popping out
Speaker 2: some niggas. I ain't sit there saying I was walking
Speaker 2: up on niggas at point blank and just hit them
Speaker 2: in the head at the ship.
Speaker 1: Where you can go to the bullets can go to
Speaker 1: the head. How you know they didn't die.
Speaker 2: I know they didn't die. Some of them niggas still
Speaker 2: around here, they walking.
Speaker 1: You don't know every nigga you shot, hm, So you
Speaker 1: wasn't walking up, but you said some of these niggas
Speaker 1: today are still a rocking around here walking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gee, I'm not even saying that this happened
Speaker 2: multiple times. I wasn't running around them.
Speaker 1: You said you shot niggas pel.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, there's been a couple of niggas. Don't got it.
Speaker 2: These niggas, they can't get it now. So that Oh,
Speaker 2: so you're not square, man, I'm square as I have
Speaker 2: to beat the dog. So let me get this right.
Speaker 2: So Biggie is, yes, No, I'm reiterating something else to you.
Speaker 2: I'm retelling his story that someone told me. I didn't know, Biggie,
Speaker 2: I don't know what he was doing and what he
Speaker 2: wasn't doing.
Speaker 1: I'm saying so based off of your belief that with
Speaker 1: your friend.
Speaker 2: And I don't believe that person would have reason a lot.
Speaker 2: So based off your beliefs, Biggie was me telling them.
Speaker 2: You believe you believe in dog Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 2: Doggie never really lied to me.
Speaker 1: So based off your beliefs, because you believe in dog
Speaker 1: and Doggie diamonds, Biggie was up in his room righting
Speaker 1: wraps and you was on the corner selling rocks shooting people.
Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you what the fact was. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was, And I can get multiple people to verify
Speaker 2: that on here, because you don't heard it before.
Speaker 1: I've never heard it in my life. But no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not what this is. It's not about validating. Still,
Speaker 1: we'll do that on another show. Hold up, all up,
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 4: We were at the one hundredth episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen one. So what I'm saying to you
Speaker 1: is you're the real Biggie.
Speaker 2: I didn't say nothing, Well why do I? Hell no,
Speaker 2: I'm not no Big b He's one of the greatest
Speaker 2: rappers of all time.
Speaker 1: That's what big he rapped about. So you said you
Speaker 1: was doing this ship Biggie was rapping about and Biggie
Speaker 1: was writing about something.
Speaker 2: That dog He said, how you gonna put that? How
Speaker 2: you just go point that to me?
Speaker 1: You said you believe it?
Speaker 4: Everybody here I have.
Speaker 2: No choice but to believe it. I'm not you. I
Speaker 2: don't doubt everything. My friend's gonna tell me.
Speaker 4: Everybody here knows good and damn well did Biggie wrote
Speaker 4: all the songs about Stell.
Speaker 1: Exactly what what were taking it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. He's like Rick Ross, Big Steeal,
Speaker 4: notorious b I G. He named himself after you.
Speaker 1: Big still notorious, b I g still yeah.
Speaker 2: No, see y'all just trolling out. How you're just trolling
Speaker 2: out because you take something I said that, I'm telling
Speaker 2: you Doggy Diamond said. I'm say Norman Steel said this.
Speaker 2: I didn't know the man.
Speaker 1: You said, Norman still believe Doggie Diamonds.
Speaker 2: I believe dog Doggie grew up with the nigga he
Speaker 2: so so at that point, So why are you we
Speaker 2: said so, we're saying the same thing. Dog been out
Speaker 2: there making content off of this. This is something that
Speaker 2: he said to us. He told you this before.
Speaker 1: I told him I didn't believe him.
Speaker 2: Then, Man, I wish dog could get on his phone
Speaker 2: right now to debunk all this ship you're talking right now.
Speaker 1: He's not.
Speaker 2: Man. Let's get back to the man. You will always
Speaker 2: take something, try to twist it.
Speaker 1: How am I twisted anything?
Speaker 2: So Bee was grinding about you? You, I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 4: Let's move into the let's just we we're gonna pitch
Speaker 4: this camp into the twenty first century.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is back from the point of where
Speaker 1: we started at. Right when we talk, when we're talking
Speaker 1: about dish records, right, I'm saying since the beginning of
Speaker 1: Dish records. I've always thought it could get serious. Now
Speaker 1: I agree there are certain battles. I thought most likely
Speaker 1: it wouldn't get serious, right, And you're right. I've always
Speaker 1: felt ice T was a player about it, so maybe not.
Speaker 1: But then there was a time Icy probably did want
Speaker 1: something to happen to him. But I never thought Chris
Speaker 1: and Shan couldn't get serious. And then we're moving forward.
Speaker 1: Obviously it was a fist fight between NWA and lynch
Speaker 1: Mob over Novasili, right that that's part of it. There
Speaker 1: was a fist fight over dre Da with dog Pale
Speaker 1: in the roofless camp right fast forward every disc you always.
Speaker 4: Good, was there a physical incident or anything like that
Speaker 4: with the ice q cyprssill shit or that just was
Speaker 4: all talk and kind of just drifted off.
Speaker 1: Now Tien told me it was like a big thing
Speaker 1: because be real is actually a real blood from family ones,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was a real thing. So I
Speaker 1: don't think it got into a physical thing, but it
Speaker 1: was kind of some real things. Did eight ever said
Speaker 1: somebody fought over that ship were quick still?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He said there was a lot of He said
Speaker 2: there was a lot of ship that happened. He said,
Speaker 2: there was a lot of ship that could have went bad.
Speaker 2: You know it was some Was there a fight? Remember
Speaker 2: that's a whole different dynamic right there. You had to do.
Speaker 2: That was a blood then you had to do you
Speaker 2: had to do it was a pirroot yet another dude,
Speaker 2: there was a crip.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, did they fight?
Speaker 2: No? They never. You know what's funny, man, They said
Speaker 2: during that whole thing, they never even saw each other
Speaker 2: all the people.
Speaker 1: Did the any of their friends fight over it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a few squabbles over.
Speaker 1: So fast forward Jac and Nas. There wasn't really no
Speaker 1: squabbles over that was it?
Speaker 2: I don't believe.
Speaker 4: So was there with fifty and get touched on that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Jo fifty got stabbed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty got stabbed doing that.
Speaker 4: Lord fifty got and with the Rick fifty thing, gunplay
Speaker 4: got jumped.
Speaker 1: That did happen.
Speaker 2: I just think, man, you know what, it's possible for
Speaker 2: some shit to happen. I remember when ros said they
Speaker 2: looked and jeez, yeah they looked Tiffy and they was
Speaker 2: walking down the hallway together and they sort of just
Speaker 2: tussed for whatever you want to call that. What it
Speaker 2: was they was doing. But they you know, they smelled
Speaker 2: each other's colomn briefly in that hallway.
Speaker 4: Did the set up with Gucci via Jeez? That really
Speaker 4: is how that went down.
Speaker 1: So I think I think people kind of assume that
Speaker 1: Jeez said, dude over there, but I don't think that's
Speaker 1: been verified. Obviously, it'd probably be a criminal case if
Speaker 1: it was verified that Jeezy sent this man over here
Speaker 1: to lose his life. Now, now there was supposed to
Speaker 1: be a word about money being you know, presented for
Speaker 1: some jewelry or something like that, so it's not impossible.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. But it's really kind of fucking
Speaker 1: me up now that I'm thinking about dis records and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the first time in my life
Speaker 1: where I thought, I am sure nobody is going to
Speaker 1: get hurt, but I might be wrong. Why because even
Speaker 1: when Ja Cole apologized, I was like, Bro, nobody's going
Speaker 1: to do anything to Jake Cole. It might be some
Speaker 1: crazy motherfuckers that might try to do some shit to
Speaker 1: Jay Cole.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: I think that Drake is the type of guy who
Speaker 4: would not hesitate if you got him with the right
Speaker 4: line on a disc track, to resort to biological warfare,
Speaker 4: and by biological warfare, I mean deploying a known infected
Speaker 4: slut in the direction of the original artist.
Speaker 2: I said it on the show that that dude is
Speaker 2: the devil Man, and see how he inserts if you
Speaker 2: have the devil Drake is the devil dog, you would.
Speaker 4: Absolutely unleash her pies indirectly at that man.
Speaker 2: Is Drake the devil bro no offense peet, But Drake
Speaker 2: is definitely a white man. He thinks like a white person.
Speaker 2: He's going to get you with He's gonna try to
Speaker 2: hit you where it hurts, but have him remove far
Speaker 2: from it, like him with a certain top into women
Speaker 2: with him and dot right now, when he was beefing
Speaker 2: with meat Meal, I rode down the street bumping aar ad.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, He's going to serve people
Speaker 2: like if he getting a beef with she, he liable
Speaker 2: to say he got you're fucking with Joey in with
Speaker 2: Joey and and the Giants and some ship like that,
Speaker 2: or me and Beeg Steel chilling. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He's that type of dude.
Speaker 4: He kind of almost operates sort of like Tupac where
Speaker 4: he leaves a lot of gray area and untied you
Speaker 4: know ends, and like takes pictures with your wife and
Speaker 4: ship like that.
Speaker 2: Like that, you know what I'm saying. He gave a
Speaker 2: picture from a long time ago to where Hilla Maria,
Speaker 2: you just took a picture, and he go pointing of her.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like you know what time it is.
Speaker 4: You know what happened after that picture? And he doesn't
Speaker 4: say anything happened. He might mean, you know, we both
Speaker 4: went our separate ways and went to the house, but
Speaker 4: he will say.
Speaker 2: He that dude. Now you know how he and the
Speaker 2: way he's inserted Nigga's personal shitting and this shit. See
Speaker 2: the one thing about it, bro, if you can get somebody,
Speaker 2: if you can cause dissinction in somebody's personal life, that's
Speaker 2: that's like the ultimate shit. Well, if you put something
Speaker 2: on somebody's mind thinking, man, it was my girl messing
Speaker 2: with this dude, it's my brother fucking with this guy.
Speaker 4: And he's not just whit, he's half Jewish. That means
Speaker 4: he's pulling court documents from civil suits up to an
Speaker 4: including paternity and it gets very ugly in some of
Speaker 4: those papers.
Speaker 2: See I said, g that motherfucker is the devil. He
Speaker 2: is Satan. See let me ask you this, if this
Speaker 2: was you, if you somehow got inserted into this, oh
Speaker 2: Drake versus the world thing, how would you react if
Speaker 2: he said something person about you?
Speaker 1: I can rap, I really can rap. I can rap
Speaker 1: as good as rap can. I'm getting pretty good, so
Speaker 1: it'd be pretty.
Speaker 2: And you have the trouble factor. I think you would
Speaker 2: be able to say some shit just as herful.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm also gonna be looking to beat people up
Speaker 1: and out wrap people.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start you will, so after you wrecked your rap,
Speaker 2: after you out wrap him, you don't like them, put
Speaker 2: hands on them too.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be looking to put hands on his
Speaker 1: bodyguards and all the street dudes that's with him. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna just let it be him. Like see, that's
Speaker 1: most people problem. They be looking to get to Drake.
Speaker 1: I'm a fire chubbing him shit up like niggas. As
Speaker 1: soon as you nigga, we're gonna get out, like we're
Speaker 1: gonna pack your ship up. We're gonna start packing up
Speaker 1: the niggas that you're paying that you think it's something
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm gonna show you the difference when
Speaker 1: you fucking with the nig That's like me Wherea's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna fight the bodyguards. We're gonna fuck them around,
Speaker 1: We're gonna shoot, we gonna hurt them. We ain't even
Speaker 1: gonna fuck with you at first. We're gonna start breaking
Speaker 1: everything around you until you realize it's a big difference
Speaker 1: fucking with people like us and I'm out rapping. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna rap with you. Even if you win, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna win at the end. So it's just a different attitude.
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking to really get at the niggas who
Speaker 1: you think is tough. That way I can show you
Speaker 1: all that shit ain't tough.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, Historically the rappers never really get
Speaker 2: involved in the shit. It's always the bodyguards and the
Speaker 2: external people. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's because that's because that's because they're plotting
Speaker 1: on the rappers because they see weakness. I wouldn't plot
Speaker 1: on the rappers. I plot on your strength. SI's one thing.
Speaker 1: When you looking at the weakness, your whole thing is
Speaker 1: I know somebody's weakness. Imagine being strong enough to fuck
Speaker 1: over people's strength. That's my That's always been my thing.
Speaker 1: Like when I went to jail, I'm gonna fight the
Speaker 1: toughest nigga. When in the set, I'm gonna fight the
Speaker 1: toughest nigga. That way, I'm gonna go at your strength.
Speaker 1: If I go at your strength, you'll realize you're not
Speaker 1: strong at all, and then we could have a real,
Speaker 1: you know, a solution, you know, amicable solution could come around.
Speaker 1: You got to really get at people's strength, like, don't
Speaker 1: go intoday that weakness it is for the birds, you know,
Speaker 1: show them that their strongest place ain't really that strong
Speaker 1: and niggas to get the point.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, bro. During the Death ro Height,
Speaker 2: they obviously had beasts with a lot of people. Do
Speaker 2: you think they was do you you being a street
Speaker 2: dude out here at that time, now hear a lot
Speaker 2: of people say this, Do you think they actually ran
Speaker 2: the streets or did they just run the rap industry?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they was trying to run
Speaker 1: the streets. I think everybody have respect for that type
Speaker 1: of money and success from the community. They didn't have
Speaker 1: to use physical force, But I mean, obviously you hear
Speaker 1: all the stories of issues they had where they was
Speaker 1: in the nigga since they had issues and they had
Speaker 1: to resolve a lot of things in different ways, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But even in that situation, to me,
Speaker 1: if you want to show strength, the first thing you
Speaker 1: do is fight Shug Knight. That's showing strength. And that's
Speaker 1: to me where I gave a lot of the loan
Speaker 1: bees dudes credity. Like nigga, we gonna squabble whoever you
Speaker 1: think is the strongest person here, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That way we can really have a because that's the
Speaker 1: thing about street life or gang banging, it's all based
Speaker 1: off the premises of people showing strength. So once you
Speaker 1: show somebody they strongest place, ain't that strong. Most of
Speaker 1: the time you can come to you know, fair resolutions.
Speaker 1: Until you show somebody they strongest place, ain't that strong.
Speaker 1: They gonna always feel like they're gonna have an advantage,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the stuff they gonna do is
Speaker 1: gonna be disingenuous. You know what I'm saying. They gonna
Speaker 1: always feel like they have the advantage, so there is
Speaker 1: no real reason for them to meet you at a
Speaker 1: prime resolution place. You know, that makes sense they'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're doing you a favor. Let's knock away the favor
Speaker 1: right now, Nigga, your strongest shit ain't strong enough. So
Speaker 1: even in this situation, right like, I did look at
Speaker 1: j Cole like a little bit weird, like where it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: why would you apologize? But maybe he looking like Yo,
Speaker 1: this shit could get funky, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm not that kind of guy. Yeah, now that we.
Speaker 2: Discussed, and I believe he's on tour with like Q
Speaker 2: right now with some shit like that, So I ain't
Speaker 2: no telling the conversations that could have been had, you know,
Speaker 2: and what could have been pieced out and behind closed doors.
Speaker 1: I mean, even then he could say it that way. Hey,
Speaker 1: I sat down with some of my brothers and TD.
Speaker 1: But I think, honestly, the more I think about it,
Speaker 1: now that we've discussed all of these disc records and
Speaker 1: places that he might be right, like if he's not
Speaker 1: into the Rye Rod shit in the squabble game and
Speaker 1: wanting to have to shoot niggas, like a lot of
Speaker 1: these disc records have led to people being in fight
Speaker 1: and people being hurt. You know what I'm saying, so
Speaker 1: it may not be the rappers being in fights all
Speaker 1: the time, you know, but somebody else is getting hurt,
Speaker 1: and maybe he don't want nobody around him to get hurt.
Speaker 1: I think I actually owe Jake Cole a fucking apology.
Speaker 2: Well, once you become she, I'm gonna tell you like this.
Speaker 4: So now you're apologizing.
Speaker 1: No, I said I owe him an apology. See now
Speaker 1: that I owe him, he would never be broke. Now
Speaker 1: I'm not going to apologize. See I'm not Jake Cole.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I may have to respect. I may have,
Speaker 1: You'll never be broke. You're a debt.
Speaker 2: I want to real quickly in this kind of series,
Speaker 2: I think once you get past the age of twenty
Speaker 2: or maybe even nineteen, getting into a fight is the
Speaker 2: serious thing once you become a grown man, because when
Speaker 2: you physically want to say, okay, I'm putting my hands
Speaker 2: on this person, somebody could possibly die. Because me, as
Speaker 2: a fifty some year old man, I'm just allow somebody
Speaker 2: just to put their hands on me and just to
Speaker 2: whoop my ass. And I'm gonna be worried about it
Speaker 2: if I do. Let's say I come out victorious. Now
Speaker 2: I gotta worry about you potentially walking up on me
Speaker 2: and I might be with my wife and my kids
Speaker 2: or maybe somewhere to where it's I might be with
Speaker 2: my mom in the streets somewhere. Because all is fair
Speaker 2: and love and war. So I'm gonna try to discman
Speaker 2: on main keel and destroy anything that's a threat like that.
Speaker 2: So it can get ugly, it can get dangerous. And
Speaker 2: I think once you get to plan with people on
Speaker 2: a personal level, man, you don't know what the fuck
Speaker 2: somebody going through. You might fuck around and be the
Speaker 2: and take the brunt of the all day frustration. Feel
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's a lot that can happen
Speaker 2: though I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 1: But I know, like, yes, you can still get a
Speaker 1: squabble with me, you know what I'm saying. I ain't.
Speaker 4: But that's the thing in the world. Now your your
Speaker 4: unique case. It's like, but if you you have to
Speaker 4: know the other person, like I always I look at
Speaker 4: every fight like this, just in general. My blanket rule
Speaker 4: is if you want to do this here the rules,
Speaker 4: winner goes to jail, loser goes to the hospital. But
Speaker 4: you have to know who the other person is. And
Speaker 4: so it's almost a give and take. If the other
Speaker 4: person is not the kind of guy to call the police,
Speaker 4: he's probably a kind of guy who buy.
Speaker 1: Shootsh Yeah, but that just gonna get him shot.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 1: Now, you will get your ass whooped and shot.
Speaker 4: If you if you shoot.
Speaker 1: Him first, well, I mean that's kind of just I
Speaker 1: would go, like, you can't live your life in this
Speaker 1: level of fear about going to jail. Where I know
Speaker 1: this is kind of the American psychology of existing, this
Speaker 1: fear of death and going to jail. Right, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I don't want to go to jail. I
Speaker 1: am not scared to go to jail.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying it has to be important.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're trying to shoot me, that's worth going
Speaker 1: to jail.
Speaker 4: Oh, that is important. Well, you know what's important.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's about being afraid of going to jail,
Speaker 2: Like that would be the last thought on my mind.
Speaker 2: You know, get into a fight with somebody. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: she can go, she can go either way. It could
Speaker 2: be a motherfucker take me off this clanic. You feel
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You don't never know what somebody got
Speaker 2: going on, what's on they mind?
Speaker 1: Fuck they mind.
Speaker 4: Yeah so you.
Speaker 2: So you just think it's just safe that all the
Speaker 2: grown folks out here fighting niggas in their thirties, forties,
Speaker 2: in some case fifties. It's out here just crap.
Speaker 1: Listen. I would hope as an adult, your intellect has
Speaker 1: came to a place where you can resolve situations through conversation.
Speaker 1: But still some people need they motherfucking ass or the
Speaker 1: attempt of it. You have to defend. You have to defend.
Speaker 1: You have to defend somebody like you may have to demand. Listen.
Speaker 1: This is what makes hip hop different than everything else.
Speaker 1: Like to Peete, it might be like a nigga moment
Speaker 1: where he's like, I'm wired, I'm gonna walk away from
Speaker 1: this nigga moment Like Drake. Drake doesn't have to participate
Speaker 1: because it's like he don't carry the ego and the pride. Now,
Speaker 1: it depends on where that's value that because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, man, you could get punk and
Speaker 1: live tomorrow and long as you okay with it, it
Speaker 1: don't matter. Somebody could call you a bit still in
Speaker 1: front of your wife and you don't have to low
Speaker 1: as you don't care as long as she not tripping.
Speaker 1: Y'all could just live y'all days out. But the problem is,
Speaker 1: because of where you come from, where she come from,
Speaker 1: if somebody mark your ass out, it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: for you to get respecting your own house, right, And
Speaker 1: that's how it is with these records, right, If somebody
Speaker 1: marks you out, it's gonna be hard for you to
Speaker 1: get respect. Like you're gonna be you have to be
Speaker 1: okay with being, you know, burden with criticism and jokes.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's normal from where we
Speaker 1: come from. We already had a hard ass life, so
Speaker 1: we don't really play like that, you know what I mean. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you should do the next thing to
Speaker 1: put you in jail, but if it means protecting your life, shit, okay,
Speaker 1: whatever it got to be to protect your life.
Speaker 4: But life in quality of life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if somebody just trying to squabble you up,
Speaker 1: I mean, or somebody like so you mean to tell
Speaker 1: me still, if you somewhere with Madia, right and and
Speaker 1: somebody like, yeah, bitch ass nigga, move out the way,
Speaker 1: he'll be like, well, you know what, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be squabbling this nigga I'm fifty two. I'm not squabbling it.
Speaker 2: We definitely go after he might have to smell my cologne.
Speaker 2: You know, he called me your big jass nigga.
Speaker 1: But what if he called you a couple bitches and
Speaker 1: then he looked at your old lady be like, yeah, bitch,
Speaker 1: you heard what I said to him. You're gonna be like, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna fight him.
Speaker 2: You know, he would more than likely to be shot.
Speaker 1: See that's dumb. Now you're really go to jail for
Speaker 1: shooting somebody.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen. But I'm just saying that's what all of
Speaker 2: that will resulting. Because I would touch with him. But
Speaker 2: then what I would do, see g I don't have
Speaker 2: that like Fried that you brise. I addressed situations and
Speaker 2: handle him accordingly. If I'm with my wife right and
Speaker 2: it's just me and Aaron, I see it's him, and
Speaker 2: it depends it's just his him. If it's just him,
Speaker 2: we go tuessh. But if I look at him when
Speaker 2: I see five niggas standing over here, then it's a
Speaker 2: couple of niggas over here. I ain't wearing a dog.
Speaker 2: I might just get in my car rolling out and
Speaker 2: Damn listen, nigga another day over here. Now if it's just.
Speaker 1: Him, Yeah, he just talking and he's five for ten,
Speaker 1: bitch ass, big ass six mons.
Speaker 2: We're gonna tuess him because it's just him. Like I say, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is a one on one situation. But if I
Speaker 2: gotta worrypotify it. Since the situation, I see his six
Speaker 2: niggas over here, and potentially this to go down. Not
Speaker 2: only do I have to worry about defending myself, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to worry about my wife. Got going on
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 1: As a motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Go knock her around the cold got But.
Speaker 1: But you far off like you went somewhere else.
Speaker 4: I'm still a little shell shocked because the little guy
Speaker 4: from Ghetto Boys knocked him out in that house that time.
Speaker 1: Oh Willie, all rest in peace.
Speaker 2: But that that ain't supposed to be story ain't supposed
Speaker 2: to be told all the time. Shots at the Homie
Speaker 2: Polar Bear. We kept that sigt for long.
Speaker 4: It went on a monster platform. I think I forgot.
Speaker 4: Did I remember that backwards? I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Did you get knocked? No? That was that was on
Speaker 2: the I Did you talk about that on on drink chaps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of shit. You talking about gangster
Speaker 1: rap chronicles. Well, you know what, lying on Biggie name.
Speaker 2: We might have talked about it. I'm not lying, or
Speaker 2: that's Doggie man. You know what, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: have dog you to defend itself on. You're gonna have
Speaker 2: to have Doggie on to defend his story. Dog.
Speaker 1: We'll do it next week in person, because if I
Speaker 1: don't like what he's saying about Biggie, dog gonna smell
Speaker 1: my motherfucking colomb.
Speaker 2: Ohe the most No dog said.
Speaker 1: Dog is my nigga. Wen friends could fight.
Speaker 2: See you know what of these with g g g
Speaker 2: is a true hip hoper. He really loves and revers
Speaker 2: these niggas. And when I tell them that some of
Speaker 2: these niggas ain't who they think they is, gen gets
Speaker 2: upset and he will defend them to the death.
Speaker 1: That's not you're just over exaggerating. I'm saying. You just
Speaker 1: went from saying dog said his stories are exaggerated, which
Speaker 1: that's everybody's story of their pop.
Speaker 2: What I said was the dog said, is that Biggie
Speaker 2: what no street dude exactly?
Speaker 1: And then you said and then you compounded.
Speaker 2: Because he could have been talking about some of his
Speaker 2: homieses around him. It's really put me in.
Speaker 1: That work that would be exaggerated because he making himself
Speaker 1: the story.
Speaker 2: Well, Cube did the same thing. You know most Cube
Speaker 2: stories about stuff he's seen.
Speaker 1: And yes, but Cube also got on when he was
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old kid writing smash hit records for
Speaker 1: easy E Biggie was an adult. And then you compounded
Speaker 1: the ship Dog said by saying he was just sitting
Speaker 1: up in his room writing wraps. That's what you.
Speaker 2: Said still.
Speaker 1: Anyway, but back to the point, this whole thing is
Speaker 1: just becoming less eventful for me because of AI. Like
Speaker 1: I'm still not sure, like, uh, it was some new
Speaker 1: ship that leak Drake right, which everybody was talking about it.
Speaker 1: I bet that shit probably AI. I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: But then now I'm worried that it's Drake record, Drake record.
Speaker 1: Why hasn't Drake officially released this record? What if the
Speaker 1: record is AI?
Speaker 2: That was what really funny, I'll tell you what. That
Speaker 2: boy rose Ring whatever the fuck he called himself. Now
Speaker 2: he responded bet like.
Speaker 1: An out that's a good cut and he was funny.
Speaker 1: But see, look how he's doubling down on it and
Speaker 1: then like accentuated part of this record. Yeah, he officially
Speaker 1: released his Why the fuck? What if Drake's whole shit
Speaker 1: is AI and he just like he can't clear it
Speaker 1: because it's not him, Like he can't use it. Why
Speaker 1: else would you release a record blast it out?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Not you, but you. He is not on any of
Speaker 1: his platforms, bro, what if that whole shit is AI?
Speaker 1: And then I heard a Kendrick joint that was dope
Speaker 1: as fuck. That was AI. I'm a player at the
Speaker 1: end of this podcast, right, it was AI idol.
Speaker 2: Man, I want to hear that motherfucker. Now a play it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that the end here.
Speaker 2: I play for you.
Speaker 1: Look at this AI record, Bro, that shit is crazy.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers might just be kicking back, laying up what they
Speaker 2: brought and they having the computer to make their record.
Speaker 1: So but I don't think they're doing the AI. Somebody
Speaker 1: else is coming up with him. But what if that's
Speaker 1: why his shit ain't on streaming services? Just listen.
Speaker 4: I mean, Drake claims to be Michael Jackson, but Michael
Speaker 4: Jackson never painted his nails or got his nails done,
Speaker 4: didn't he?
Speaker 2: And man, that's some decusson about him.
Speaker 6: Pup dropping down for that fifty, I'll give you two hundred.
Speaker 6: I'm too cunning. Come touch down the city. Let's see
Speaker 6: what teams wanted if you really would be stupid for
Speaker 6: choosing or about their Childerry that is full of re
Speaker 6: la goons. Ready for coonery, NIGGERA side seven is gonna
Speaker 6: be up for your eyes, a big step because of
Speaker 6: repping cup and doing with class. Ain't no gas there,
Speaker 6: my hood fucking nels would have passed. Wanna be Yanni
Speaker 6: so bad? You're partly topping for cash? What kind of
Speaker 6: man tell another man? Don't make me chipping now, Kendrick,
Speaker 6: I'm way bigger than you in Japan, can't you tell?
Speaker 4: Kendrick?
Speaker 6: The only thing that people want to know is Drake
Speaker 6: a real killer because of suppleminals towards next to meet
Speaker 6: you real nigga, you ain't never caught a body boy.
Speaker 6: If you're the closest thing to a porter party, let
Speaker 6: the niggas pissle on you. This industry is more than softy.
Speaker 6: All these fortifications bodies that you caught with porty shop
Speaker 6: recording on somebody's artifist. We're not gonna throw our suppleminals.
Speaker 6: I'll admitted the favorite rapport Trensy for sleeping with Dinny. Listen,
Speaker 6: I know the tension that's ensing.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 6: Wonder what he got punched. She kept scraping his teeth.
Speaker 6: He was eating his stick for lunch. I got the
Speaker 6: proof on the usbed trying me. If you want to
Speaker 6: apologize like cold and find where you are with stop,
Speaker 6: I'm never selling my Souda's why I sow two hundred
Speaker 6: p At least I can say I'm a man at
Speaker 6: the end of the fucking day sign I'm not shun Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 4: Over YO season, then we back the I keep it
Speaker 4: pulling Yomi. If you want to strike back, you know
Speaker 4: it's over YO season.
Speaker 1: And we back that defending. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like that shit scared.
Speaker 2: I have a technical question to ask. If AI is
Speaker 2: doing that, why the fuck even make another record again? Gee,
Speaker 2: we should be just somewhere just put your voice in
Speaker 2: that whether fucking just go onifaication.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Ai, So the way it's working, somebody else
Speaker 1: is coming up with the lyrics, rapping them, and then
Speaker 1: they're voice swapping with Kendrick's voice, so it's still.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, this ship is still your program
Speaker 1: around that, Like I've heard four songs come out that
Speaker 1: were AI songs. Then I'm looking at Drake's song. It's
Speaker 1: still not official, but it's on the radio, and they say, oh,
Speaker 1: they blasting out the radio. Then why is it not available?
Speaker 1: Because if you play a song on radio, right, if
Speaker 1: you play a song on radio that's AI, don't matter.
Speaker 1: But if you put that song on your on your
Speaker 1: on your streaming channel and it's not your song, that
Speaker 1: ship is a real different kind of lawsuit.
Speaker 4: Or is it? If somebody puts ship out that AI
Speaker 4: is an impersonation of you and then you use it,
Speaker 4: who's able to sue who? That is a tremulous.
Speaker 1: The lyrics, Yeah, lyrics and everything else, But you.
Speaker 4: Could sue them exactly the same way at risk of
Speaker 4: bigger damages to your own brand by impersonation.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Didn't hear that this ship is far exactly exactly you know,
Speaker 2: I genuinely think he's that type of mind as a
Speaker 2: pop superstar.
Speaker 1: He's not just some wrinky deep motherfucker. Cus studies this ship,
Speaker 1: so he knows what the claim and what not to claim?
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, why is that song not on streaming services?
Speaker 1: What if he's trying to figure out who wrote the song?
Speaker 1: What if he's trying to figure out how to silence
Speaker 1: to me? What if he's figuring out the PaperWorks No
Speaker 1: only Rose shit and then dot shit with future in them.
Speaker 1: That song, the dropping in Me fifty song, is not
Speaker 1: on any streaming service. It's not on his SoundCloud. If
Speaker 1: it wasn't about money, why it's not on his SoundCloud.
Speaker 1: You don't got to get paid from that YouTube. You
Speaker 1: don't have to get paid from that, Like, and this
Speaker 1: is what's fucking up battle rap for me, It's like, bro,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? You know what I'm saying? Like,
Speaker 1: and then you hearing these different AI songs, Oh they're
Speaker 1: saying this is a real song. He's just saying it
Speaker 1: wasn't dope, so he don't want to claim it or that.
Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, this shit dumb?
Speaker 2: What thing it was? Bro? You know what, You're right,
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't doubt you, but that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Not on YouTube, not on SoundCloud.
Speaker 2: He put that back shit out quicking the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: And at least it was on the streaming services, it's out.
Speaker 1: Why would you not monetize your your Oh well, if
Speaker 1: you're not trying to monetize it, why not put it
Speaker 1: on your SoundCloud and then have a feature where you
Speaker 1: don't get paid for it. Why would you not have
Speaker 1: it on your YouTube and turn off the monetization portion.
Speaker 1: Why would you not put it to where your fans
Speaker 1: could see you competing at the highest level. People keep
Speaker 1: making excuses, but I'm like, we're in the era where
Speaker 1: AI you can't claim the work if you didn't write it.
Speaker 1: Let's say he puts that shit on the Spotify right
Speaker 1: now and didn't claim to work that, Like you get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I'm telling you, Drake is that
Speaker 1: kind of brilliant mind or cunning mind like you're saying
Speaker 1: if you think he's the devil, he's that type of
Speaker 1: cunning and devious mind to where it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: he would definitely, you know, let the business be the business,
Speaker 1: and he for sure would want to stop Kendrick Future
Speaker 1: and Metro from having a record that's four weeks in
Speaker 1: a row at number one. Get what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this shit is getting fun whack.
Speaker 4: That would be one of the most interesting twists. If
Speaker 4: the public at large accepts that and receives that as
Speaker 4: his disresponse and runs with it for a month or so,
Speaker 4: only to find out that it was like Joe Blow's
Speaker 4: ship through AI, that would be the most underrated story
Speaker 4: to me in modern hip hop.
Speaker 2: Hey man, you know what's crazy, but but it's saying some.
Speaker 1: Shit I've seen that I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: We don't do that shit on no sellers want to
Speaker 1: do that gossip. That's not gossip. That's what we don't
Speaker 1: care what you talk about my nigga. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about Louke talking about no nother nigga on this podcast.
Speaker 1: That's not what we do over here. We want to
Speaker 1: do that over here, big bro.
Speaker 2: That's that.
Speaker 1: It's not that that is my homeboy. They both my
Speaker 1: home boys. But that don't have nothing to do. We
Speaker 1: don't really do hot topics and shit. We won't do
Speaker 1: bus This ain't the church store. Came by that shirt
Speaker 1: up in here. We have intelligent conversations about whatever it is.
Speaker 1: That shit stupid. Don't look at me like that, big bro.
Speaker 1: Hold that ship tonight. You're doing gangster chronicles.
Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm probably not gonna talk about that.
Speaker 2: That's not interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, so don't bring that shit up on No Silings.
Speaker 2: I thought it was an interesting take though.
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm saying not about this record, not about
Speaker 1: this record. Were about this. You then fucked up the podcast.
Speaker 1: You know what this shit over?
Speaker 2: No I'm doing it ain't good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah