1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Commissioner Roger Goodell, and this is the 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: NFL Report. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Oh sir, the shout out at the start of the 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: NFL Report. We're growing, Steve, I love it. I was 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: in New England just yesterday for Chiefs and Patriots, and 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: I'll just tell you this. I've covered games there for 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: over a decade. It was just an interesting feel there, Steve. 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: With everything circulating, with all these reports about Bill Belichick, it's. 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: Just a weird vibe. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: And when I talk to everybody there, I'll just say this, 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's an easy way for this parting 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: of ways to potentially happen at some point whenever it is, 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: whether it's this offseason or moving forward, just everything that's involved, 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's an easy way this goes down. 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: And that's why we're gonna be following it. It's gonna 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: be fascinating. 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be the story of the off season, JP, 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: and not just if the Patriots part ways Bill Belichick. 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 5: Will anybody hire him? Look? 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 4: I was covering the Dolphins when Don Shula got let go, 21 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: but there was an ownership change there. 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 5: Remember when Tom Landry got let go from the Cowboys. 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 4: There was an ownership change that's not happening in New England. 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 4: So there's a lot going on. But JP our show today, 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 4: Oh come on, we just tease you. 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 5: We had the commissioner through the drop for us. 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: At the top, we have Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 4: won the baddest man on the planet. 29 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna be joining the show today. 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 4: We're gonna be talking more news about coaches with our 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 4: own Mike Garafolo. We're also gonna be joined by Omar 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: Ruis and Jeff Chidia. But as always on Monday, it's 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: about bigger Newsy. 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 6: O line, O line, You're good two hundred yards rushing man, Hey, 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 6: you prepared your off man, it's so right. It's so 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 6: what did the old Bills say right when it's too 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 6: tough for them, It's just right for us, It's just 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 6: right for Rosy. 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: As coach Sean McDermott post game, which leads to the 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: bigger news. Is it the Bills putting the complete booty 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: whipping on the Cowboys or is it the Ravens going 42 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: down to Jacksonville and securing a playoff ber. 43 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: JP, I'm gonna say it's the Bills whipping on them 44 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: Cowboys because this involves both conferences, it involves the team. 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna say this Steve on the NFL report 46 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: after that game in Philadelphia that the Buffalo Bills came 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: up just short. I think we were the first people 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: to start saying nobody wants to play this team if 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: they get in the postseason. And right now on Monday, 50 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: it might be the most common thing that's being said 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: on every sports show in America now. Our sports show 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: Game Day Morning on Sunday was doing a breakdown before 53 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: they were coming to me in New England, and I 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: was listening to all that. It was who has to 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: wear the Superman cape? Is it Dak Prescott or Josh 56 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: Allen to win this game? Josh Allen didn't even need 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: to go into the phone booth. He renamed Clark Kent 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: the entire game, and they still won in really convincing fashion. 59 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: He goes, what seven for fifteen for ninety four yards. 60 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: If you heard more of that locker room speech, you 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: heard him jump in there and grab the game ball 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: and say I didn't throw a pick because he didn't, 63 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: and they go and run the football for two hundred 64 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: and sixty six yards. The offensive line was incredible. I 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: talked to Dion Dawkins, or left tackle recently. He said, 66 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: this guy right here, number four, James Cook. What we 67 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: love about the way he runs the football Steve is 68 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: that he just gets downhill fast. He doesn't jump around, 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: he doesn't bounce around. He finds a way to get 70 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: downhill quickly. You've seen the way Joe Brady has found 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: a way to implement him in the passing game as well. 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: He's been a dynamic playmaker for this team. Josh Allen 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: told me just last week. With the attention that Stefan 74 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: Diggs gets, this guy has been able to find different 75 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: spots to create space and make plays. This offense is cooking. 76 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: And they didn't even need Josh Allen to be I said, 77 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: he didn't even get in the phone booth. I'm not 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: sure if he ever even woke up Steve. 79 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 5: And they won the game. He didn't have to. And 80 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 5: you mentioned Joe Brady the new offensive coordinator. 81 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: We're gonna have a big discussion about him and other 82 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: coordinators in just a minute. But as big news as 83 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 4: that was, it's probably more so because people love the 84 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: hating on the Cowboys are loving on the Cowboys. The 85 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 4: bigger news is the Baltimore Ravens going down to Jacksonville 86 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: in a huge game and taking advantage of a bunch 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 4: of Jags mistakes. 88 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 5: To win the ball game. 89 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: A lot of players for the Ravens out, especially on 90 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: that offensive line, but the world got to see this 91 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: expanded offense and how Lamar Jackson showed it's. 92 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 5: His world and we're all living in it. 93 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: And you saw some of the Houdini plays, the player 94 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: where he rolls out, escapes pressure, gets it up to 95 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: Isaiah likely how he runs it, but really only to 96 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: set up the pass, and just the overall. 97 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 5: Dominant play by that defense. 98 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: The defense wasn't that dominant, but just as a compl 99 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 4: military game that they had, it goes to show that 100 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: they might be the most dangerous team in the AFC. 101 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: Plus by beating Jacksonville and the Jacks taking that loss, 102 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 4: that whole AFC South is jumble JP which takes. 103 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 5: Us to our next bigger news segment. 104 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 4: Is it bigger news that the Colts, Browns and the 105 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: Bengals are occupying all three AFC wild card spots with 106 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: backup quarterbacks? 107 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 5: Or is it bigger news? 108 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: And we talked about it last week that the Chiefs, 109 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 4: the Lions, and the Dolphins got their mojo back after 110 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 4: suffering losses in Week fourteen. 111 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: I'm going with the mojo. I'll go with the mojo 112 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: every time. I'm gonna go with the big teams that 113 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: we love to see when the best teams in football, 114 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: Steve are playing well down the stretch and playing well 115 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: into the postseason. 116 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: Let's go down the line there. I was at that game. 117 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: Like I mentioned, Kansas City Chiefs eliminated some of the penalties. 118 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: Drops were still a little bit of an issue, but 119 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: I think they got their mojo back when we saw 120 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: that trick play. Joe Tooney ends up snapping the ball 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: Jet McKinnon, who pitches it forward in a pass which 122 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: they've always run it as a handoff. I was told 123 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: in practice, he actually throws it as a pass Taver, 124 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: she writes to me. That shows that they kind of 125 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: got their swagger back a little bit. 126 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: Those trick plays. 127 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: I go get the Lions and they maybe beat the 128 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 2: best team out of these three teams this past weekend, 129 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: and the Denver Broncos that were playing so well defensively. 130 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: I got a text from a Broncos. 131 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: Defensive coach before that game saying they don't just have 132 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: a few young stars, they have a few young budding superstars. 133 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: And it's two on offense, two on defense. Jamier Gibbs 134 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 2: and Sam Laporta were dominant. Brian Branch and Jack Conka 135 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: also dominant on their side of the ball. This Lions 136 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: team got back on track tremendously. And lastly, Steve, it's 137 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: the Dolphins winning a game without Tyreek Hill. I think 138 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 2: that does a lot for their mentality, for their mental 139 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: confidence to go out there and do it as we 140 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: saw what they lacked the week before with Tyreek Hill 141 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: coming in and out of that game, and Tua was 142 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: phenomenal in the first half before Mike McDaniel kind of 143 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: let off the gas in the second half. 144 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Jets, who they're playing, were an appso 145 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 4: hot mess as well. I am going I'm welling with 146 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: these backup quarterback story. 147 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 5: That's been the theme of the season, in the fact 148 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 5: you love. 149 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: These three quarterbacks that Gardner Minshew, Joe Flacco and Jake 150 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: Brownie have their teams at Wild Card contention like firmly 151 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: for the most part. 152 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 5: In Wildcard contention. 153 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 4: To me, is the big story now We're gonna talk 154 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew a little bit later on. So I want 155 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: to focus on the two quarterbacks from Ohio, especially since 156 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: I was at that. 157 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 5: Bengals Vikings game. Here's how it's in patico. These two are. 158 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: Not only did they come back from double digit deficits 159 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. 160 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: But else he rolled the tape. Watch the story by Brownie. 161 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: He's rolling, he's rolling. 162 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 5: Watch where he sticks it. 163 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: Tyler Boyd takes it on the right sideline, runs it 164 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: up the field. It looks like a house call. He 165 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: gets tackled, Josh, but tell us the crew get him 166 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: right there. That sets up the game winning field goal. 167 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: Now let's go to Cleveland. Flacco rolls right from the 168 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: same part of the field, throws it to a Marty 169 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: Cooper catch it on the same sideline. 170 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 5: This time he tied ropes it to the house call. 171 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 5: That ties football game. Joe Flacco Jake Browning. You could 172 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 5: almost run the same tape between. 173 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: Three defenders, both of them in the same part of 174 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: the field. 175 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: James. 176 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: They're on the same wavelength right here. Joe Flacco, Jake Browning. 177 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: They're gonna continue to do things like this until they 178 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: meet in week eighteen in the season finale that could 179 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: determine which one. 180 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: Or both both go to the playoffs. 181 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: But again, the story of the backup quarterback, especially Browning 182 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: and Flacco. I can't get enough of it. That's why 183 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: that's bigger news coming out of this weekend. 184 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: I love it. 185 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: And Steve did not touch on Gardner Minshew as he 186 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: told you, we're gonna break Gardner down even further. Omar 187 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: Ruiz had a private conversation with him in the Colts 188 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: locker room. 189 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: That's gonna be massive. 190 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: But you know it's even bigger than that, Steve, I 191 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: don't know, arguably the best receiver in. 192 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: All of football. You could lose the term arguably. 193 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: It's Justin Jefferson is going to be joining the show. 194 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: The Minnesota Vikings star wide out. Why do they have 195 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: a chance to still win the division? Can they do it? 196 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: We'll ask Jju Coming up also much more about the 197 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: receiver room and everything going on with a variety of 198 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: quarterbacks that they continue to shuffle through. The culture in 199 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: Minnesota has been established more with Justin Jefferson coming up 200 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: next on the NFL Report, Welcome back to the NFL Report, 201 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: James Palmer, Steve weisch with you and arguably the best 202 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: receiver in all of football. He'll probably tell me to 203 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: lose the arguably, We'll just say best receiver in all 204 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: of football, justin Jefferson, the All Pro from the Minnesota Vikings. 205 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start off with a question. I need your opinion. 206 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: What is a better feeling catching a touchdown pass, maybe 207 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: in dramatic fashion, or when you and kJ Osborne can 208 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: take families that you're sponsoring from the Salvation Army up 209 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: and down the aisles of target and fill Christmas lists. 210 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: Which one is a better feeling? 211 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 7: Definitely the second option. 212 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 8: Man, The first option is a good feeling, but that section, 213 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 8: the second option, is even a better feeling. Just that 214 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 8: experience alone was fantastic. Seeing the smiles and seeing the 215 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 8: joy on those kids faces and even the parents, just 216 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 8: the memory of a lifetime and I'm excited to be 217 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 8: a part of that experience for them. 218 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 5: Well, Ess, I'm glad. 219 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 4: I'm glad you got just as much out of it 220 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: as they did. That's awesome to hear talk a little football. 221 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: We know you guys had a tough lost Saturday at 222 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 4: Cincinnati in your first game back from from you know, 223 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: coming back from that injury the week. 224 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 5: Before, but you didn't lose any playoff ground. 225 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: You guys are still very much in the hunt, right 226 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: there is that kind of the message that everybody is 227 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 4: pushing from from this weekend. 228 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 8: I mean to be honest, we're pushing that these three 229 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 8: divisional games that we have left in the season, you know, 230 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 8: that are that are very big for us. You know, 231 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 8: we we haven't played Detroit yet. We still have to 232 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 8: play Detroit twice, and we played Green Bay Sunday night 233 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 8: next week. So it's definitely a big upcoming three games 234 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 8: that we have that will you know, determine the outcome 235 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 8: of this season. Of course, you know, we want to 236 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 8: be the main ones to hold the throne in the North, 237 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 8: so of course you want to come into these three. 238 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 7: Games swinging and ready to go. 239 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 8: Of course, going into these three games and postseason after 240 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 8: so it's definitely an upcoming stress for us. 241 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, justin to be able to do that. That's 242 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: a football show. You like x's and o's. We likes 243 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: to go a little deep here. You got Nick Mullens 244 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: again as your quarterback. What I'm curious about is all 245 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 2: the hand signals that go on maybe even when you're 246 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: lined up that you would do with Kirk and the 247 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: little gestures that quarterbacks and receivers give to one another. 248 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: Is that lost since you haven't spent a lot of 249 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: time together. If it's not, how do you develop that 250 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: type of feel with a quarterback you haven't played with 251 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: a lot. 252 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like it's not lost, just because I 253 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 8: feel like Nick has been doing a great job in 254 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 8: just learning from Kirk, you know, being in the back 255 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 8: of the huddle or walking through the. 256 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 7: Plays like he in the game. 257 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 8: So we always have that confidence in him, especially with 258 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 8: our preparation that we have throughout the week. And I mean, 259 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 8: as people can see, he's able to throw the ball, 260 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 8: He's able to make some throws. You know, as skill position, 261 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 8: we're going to do whatever we can to make his 262 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 8: job a little bit easier. 263 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, And justin to that point, I mean, he only 264 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 4: had seven incompletions in that game against Cincinnati, threw for 265 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: more than. 266 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 5: Three hundred yards. 267 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 4: You guys moved the ball in that game offensively. What 268 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: do you think you guys needed you to tie things together, 269 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: like you said against the Lions, especially upcoming this week. 270 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 8: Honestly, we just need to put those plays together. We 271 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 8: just need to carry that momentum, you know, we just 272 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 8: need to carry the consistency, you know, just after drive 273 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 8: after drive, just stacking those plays together. And of course, 274 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 8: you know, if we're having the date that we had 275 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 8: on thirty one and fourth and inches, we need to 276 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 8: get that you need to get those yardists. 277 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 7: You know, we need to extend that drive. 278 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 8: Of course, the defense did a fantastic job by giving 279 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 8: us the ball back in the overtime. So it's our 280 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 8: job as an offense by going down uh and scoring 281 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 8: and winning the game. 282 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: Juse your entire offense. 283 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: You look at the receiver group that you guys had 284 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: the time that you were out. We saw Jordan Adison 285 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: kind of emerge and grow. So I'm curious about the 286 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: guy that runs that room in Keenan mccardo. So a 287 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: few questions about Keenan. Does he a have the greatest 288 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: smile in the world? 289 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 4: Uh? 290 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: And B what is it like having a guy that 291 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: played the position at such a high level be your 292 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: position coach? 293 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: What's the advantage there? 294 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 7: You think, well, he definitely have the best smile. Man, 295 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie too. I mean, just having you. 296 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 8: Know, a person like him that played into the league 297 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 8: seventeen years, knows the feeling of being out there on 298 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 8: the field, you know, knows the injuries, knows the circumstances 299 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 8: of you know, just everything that goes on throughout the building. 300 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 8: It's great to have him, you know, there with us. 301 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 8: You know, when Mike Zimmer left and coach Kevin O'Connell came. 302 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 8: You know, that was one of the things that I 303 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 8: requested was for him to stay with us. I love 304 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 8: him as a person, love him as a coach, and 305 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 8: it's definitely been great to have him teach me different 306 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 8: things throughout the season because you know, I'm not the 307 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 8: perfect receiver. 308 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 7: I don't know everything. 309 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 8: So for him to give me information and to make 310 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 8: me a better receiver, it's been great. 311 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: You know, I love hearing that story, you know, that 312 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: type of stuff. But Jordan Addison Toude, what can you 313 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: say about the rookie because he keeps showing up week 314 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: after week. 315 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 8: I mean, he did exactly what we expected him to do, 316 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 8: was filling in a major role. Of course, you know, 317 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 8: trading Adam was a big big move for us. You know, 318 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 8: we were looking for that number two spot. Of course, 319 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 8: we have the confidence in kJ uh uh. 320 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 7: To to make players for us. 321 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 8: But you know, of course we need another spark on 322 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 8: our offense, and he filled a major role, especially when 323 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 8: I got injured, by making players for us and being 324 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 8: that spark that we needed most definitely. So I'm excited 325 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 8: to see, you know what more that he has and 326 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 8: can do for us, but to see the progression that 327 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 8: he has throughout the whole season. Uh, He's a tremendous receiver. 328 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 8: He's a great route runner, and he's been making some 329 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 8: some crucial plays for us. 330 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: What what makes We talked about the slot a lot 331 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: on our show, and I'm curious about you moving inside 332 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: and number ones that play inside outside, guys that can 333 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: move around in today's game so much. What does that 334 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: do as a number one receiver to your advantage you 335 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: think as opposed to maybe years ago where TiO would 336 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: just sit outside. 337 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: You know, things like that. 338 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 8: You know, that's That's the one thing that I like 339 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 8: most is just being able to move throughout the whole 340 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 8: offense by being put in different positions where the defense 341 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 8: don't know where I'm I'm gonna line up at. I 342 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 8: can line up in the slot, I can line up outside, 343 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 8: I can line up at the running back spot. I 344 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 8: can line up at the number three spot at the 345 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 8: receiver position. So it's just so many things that I 346 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 8: can do in the offense. And that's what I like 347 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 8: about Ko's offense. He's able to put me in different positions, 348 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 8: motion me to different sides, and making things look different 349 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 8: but the same at the same time. So I'm definitely 350 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 8: excited to be in this type of offense. Just like 351 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 8: I was saying before, I was asking how Cooper Cup 352 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 8: was making so many different plays and getting open so 353 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 8: many different times. But now I really lies in and 354 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 8: understand the gust of it. But uh, it's definitely kudos 355 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 8: to Cooper Cup by learning this type of position and 356 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 8: then uh, you know, being everywhere on the field. 357 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 5: Great stuff. 358 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 4: Hey, just you know, when I when I was watching 359 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 4: a lot of games on Sunday, I saw your commercial 360 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 4: with Little Caesars like four hundred and seventy five thousand times, 361 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: and you're good man, You're like, really really good. 362 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 5: You got a career in doing this stuff. But what 363 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 5: are you doing with Little Caesars. 364 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, the official piece of sponsor of the NFL, Little 365 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 8: Caesars and PEPSI is doing a special gift giveaway. So 366 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 8: you got a call doing the postseason, you gotta do 367 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 8: your little order and you might win a special prize. 368 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 7: Who knows it might be some tickets, might get some 369 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 7: Super Bowl tickets, who knows. 370 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 8: Who knows it might have an eight inch flat screen 371 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 8: in your living room, who knows. 372 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 7: I don't know what. Hey screen, I know you're doing 373 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 7: one too. I know that eighty. 374 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 9: Got Yeah, I'm all about it now. 375 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: Oh that's killer. So is this is this the postgame 376 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: pregame campaign? Is that part of this? 377 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, you know Ali, I mean you and Alibody. 378 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 8: Now, now we need to get fans to know about 379 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 8: it too, so they need to call in during the 380 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 8: postseason to get their special prize. 381 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 4: Here they come with Buffalo Bills, two big wins in 382 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: a row over two major contenders. 383 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 5: We're gonna be talking about the Bills and looking forward. 384 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 4: We come back after the break with their own Mike Garrifolo. 385 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 5: This is the NFL Report. 386 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 7: I am Aron Johnson, Bill's cornerback, and this is NFL Report. 387 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: Boom. 388 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: Taron Johnson was on the show. Now Mike Garrifolo is 389 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: on the show, and we're gonna talk about Taron Johnson's 390 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: his head coach, like we have about Sean McDermott. We 391 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: asked him about the locker room and where things are 392 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: after that win that they had at Arrowhead. He said, 393 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: the love for our head coaches through the roof. You 394 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: guys don't see a lot of it, but what we 395 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: have between our coaches and players is something special. What 396 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: we want to ask you is with that game and 397 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: with the one that they just had against the Dallas Cowboys, 398 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: is the seat that some people were curious about. With 399 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: Sean McDermott no longer hot. It is an ice buffalo 400 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: cold right now. 401 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: I love this race to put people on the hot 402 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: seat here, and we're going to talk about the Buccaneers 403 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: in a second. Todd Bowles was on the hot seat 404 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: and folks who covered the team down there were openly 405 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: stating that it's time maybe to move on. 406 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 10: And now they're leading the. 407 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: Division at seven and seven, on the way potentially do 408 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: a nine and eight record. Now you've got Sean McDermott 409 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: still on the outside looking in the playoffs. But you 410 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: see the way their schedule lines up over the last 411 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, there's no reason why they shouldn't be 412 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: in the postseason, which is going to scare a lot 413 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: of people because they're saying that's the team we don't 414 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: want in the playoffs number one and number two. They're 415 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: gonna be riding that momentum and that sense of brotherhood, 416 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: that rallying behind their head coach. I'm not saying that 417 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: what Sean McDermott said about the nine to eleven hijackers 418 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: was warranted or wise, certainly wasn't. It was pretty stupid, 419 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: but he realized that a while ago and apologized for it. 420 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 10: And so this coming to light. 421 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: Almost feels like, well, we've already dealt with that, and 422 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: feels like you guys are taking some shots and grabbing 423 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: at straws right in their minds because that's a non 424 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: story in their minds at this point, because it's already. 425 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: Been dealt with. 426 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: So it's it's been a rallying point and you heard 427 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: the you talk about that locker room in arrahead. You 428 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: heard the audio, Hey coach, we got you back, and 429 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: so it's become this rallying point and something that this 430 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: team needed because it could have gone either way, and 431 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: right now it is moving in the right direction for 432 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, which is which is good, Which is good 433 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: for him. Because I've known Sean since his days in Philly. 434 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: I think he's really a terrific guy in a lot 435 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: of ways, in a good coach. And so now you're 436 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: starting to see it despite that mistake that he made 437 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, you're starting to see everybody 438 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: else fighting for him in that Bill's locker room. 439 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I will hardly agree with your opinion of 440 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 4: Sean McDermot. I think he's a fantastic human being. 441 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 5: And Mike. 442 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 4: We've seen a lot of coaches pull their teams through 443 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: adversity this season, especially going with the backup quarterback route, 444 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 4: and I've got to give some praise to Kevin Stefanski. 445 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 4: I think when we come down to what's going you know, 446 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: the Coach of the Year award, everyone talks about that 447 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 4: in a million different ways. You can justify it for 448 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 4: a lot of coaches. Kevin Stefanski's got to be there. 449 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 5: I mean they've been there through four quarterbacks, They've lost 450 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: their starting running back, their starting right. 451 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: Tackle, They've dealt with a whole lot, and somehow he's 452 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 4: been able to adapt from one quarterback from the mobile 453 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 4: quarterbacks to Joe Flacco and to win ball games down 454 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: the stretch. We've seen the Chief David Njokuh we're seeing 455 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 4: right here show. 456 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 5: Up in big ways. 457 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: You know. 458 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 5: Of course, the defense has been the constant JP. 459 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: But the fact that Kevin Stefanski, and we know before 460 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: he got there that building was always in Surrey, has 461 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: stabilized things, put his armed round to stop a lot 462 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 4: of the leaks coming. 463 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 5: Out of that building. 464 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 4: The fact that he has been able to be a 465 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: CEO and a good head coach at the same time 466 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 4: in a season like this, I think has been huge. 467 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: I'll say the guy that is still in the same 468 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: state of Ohio, Steve that has gotten his team through 469 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: adversity as well. 470 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: I think it's Zach Taylor. 471 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: And I was with this team a lot early on 472 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: in the season when they were trying to say, don't worry, 473 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: We're going to figure this out. You know, Joejoe Burrow 474 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: is gonna bounce back, He's gonna get healthy with the calf. 475 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: Everybody just kept saying, there's never any panic from our 476 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: head coach. We've been through slow starts in the past. 477 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: We always find a way to just stay even keel 478 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: and get better as the year goes on. And now 479 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: you're seeing them doing it with Jake Browning like they've 480 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: set him up from his offensive mind and Brian Callahan, 481 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: who probably is not getting enough credit as well, the 482 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator there. And how they have set things up 483 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: for brown to be successful, and how they've changed some 484 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: of the things and the looks that they give and 485 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 2: the formations that they give and how they go about 486 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: this offense to put him in positions to succeed has 487 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: been absolutely tremendous. That's why I think Zach has also 488 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: done a great job in terms of getting his team 489 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: through adversity. 490 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: Now that they sit there, Mike. 491 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: At eight and six, sixth in the AFC, and this 492 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: guy is like, I don't know if Joe Burrow could 493 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: play better than he's playing over the last couple of weeks, 494 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: which is an unreal statement to say that this team 495 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: is dealt with one of the. 496 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: Faces of the NFL go down. I'm serious, it's phenomenal. 497 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: This guy's could be sixty nine percent of his past 498 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: since seventy five, six seventy three. It's crazy, Mike, who 499 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: do you have in terms of a coach that is 500 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: leading their team right now through the landmines of December. 501 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, and this goes week to week. 502 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: Because you'd asked me this last week, I probably would 503 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: have said Kevin O'Connell, right like he coming off that 504 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: loss against Cincinnati, which was a close game. I mean, 505 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: he certainly did everything he could to put his team 506 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: in Nick Moens in position to win the game. When 507 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: you talk about coach of the year, it's always going 508 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: to be somebody who did more with. 509 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 10: Less the Coach of the Year award. You may not 510 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 10: realize this. 511 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: The last time Andy Reid won it Andy Reid two 512 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: thousand and two, you almost get penalized for having a 513 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: great quarterback, yep, for being successful year in and year out. 514 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: Belichick's won it, I think two or three times, probably 515 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: should have won it like six along the way. So 516 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: you're always looking for that criteria that we're talking about here. 517 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: Now. 518 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce is not gonna win the Coach of the 519 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: Year award. 520 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: He might win is the full. 521 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: Time job the Las Vegas Raiders as the head coach, 522 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: and the way that he's been lifting this team up 523 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: and playing with the swagger. I thought that hit the 524 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: gas pedal even harder that he told Kaylee Hartung they 525 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: were up big already. That was old school Raiders, and 526 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: this is an old school Raider guy. And he showed 527 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: up in that old school Raider jacket. And if Mark 528 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: Davis is trying to channel the Raiders that we knew 529 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: and loved back in the seventies and the eighties and 530 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: even for a portion of the nineties, this is the 531 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: kind of guy that's gonna get you there. And I 532 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: thought even the games that they've lost, that Kansas City game, 533 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: I thought they schemed it up great. 534 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 10: I thought he had him ready to play. 535 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: They played well early the game, and then it was 536 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: like talent and adjustments are gonna overcome and they're just 537 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: not there yet. The Raiders aren't. So I almost don't 538 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: even grate them on the second half of that game. 539 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: The Minnesota game, they certainly played good defense, they just 540 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: couldn't get things right offensively. And I think if he 541 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: keeps the head coaching job, they'll be a change in 542 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and he'll go out and he'll find his 543 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: own guy. But I think he's doing a great job 544 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: of leading this team. In six three and three, I 545 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: think a five hundred record is kind of what I 546 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: had in my head. If he can get them to 547 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: that point, they'll make a statement for the long term. 548 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 5: Job. 549 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: Should have been good enough for Steve Wilkes when he 550 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: did it last year in Carolina. But that's a different story. 551 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: We're talking about Antonio Pierce here. I think he's doing 552 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: a nice. 553 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 10: Job of leading this team in what I would call adversity. 554 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 10: For sure. 555 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, for sure. 556 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: And we started this conversation with Sean McDermott, who we 557 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: saw get you know, move on from his offensive coordinator 558 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: and Ken Dorsey and then moves forward with Joe Brady. 559 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: Over the last several games, we've seen a change there, 560 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: and we saw another no coordinator title change Mike with. 561 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles. 562 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: But somebody else is running that defense in Philadelphi, and 563 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: it's Matt Patricia. Sean Desai is still technically the defensive coordinator. 564 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 2: He's not calling the defense, he's not running the defense. 565 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: How did we get here in Philadelphia? 566 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 10: John Desai is a good coach. 567 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: He certainly had success over his career as a position coach, 568 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: which put him in a position to be. 569 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 10: A defensive coordinator. 570 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like he had control over the whole thing 571 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: and didn't have that authoritative kind of presence that you 572 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: want from your defensive coordinator. I also thought it was 573 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: a strike against him that at one point this team 574 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna have Vic Fangio as their defensive coach, 575 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: So he was sort of the sy was fighting an 576 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: uphill a battle against the shadow of a guy who 577 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: was with this team during the playoff run last year, 578 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: helping the offense. 579 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 10: So you got Matt Patricia, who didn't do a great 580 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 10: job as a head coach. 581 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: We know that, and certainly would learn his lessons and 582 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: do things differently if he got a chance to do 583 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: that again. But as a defensive coordinator, the skins are 584 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: on the wall and the titles are on the wall, 585 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: So to have that guy at your disposal can rest 586 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: it up anyway. Well, I want to give this saya 587 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: a different vantage point, and he's still the defensive coordinator. 588 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: If Matt Patricia goes out and plays and calls a 589 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: great game, Matt Patricia is the defensive coordinator for this 590 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: team moving forward in twenty three and likely beyond as well. 591 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: Now I will say this about Patricia when this went down, 592 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: actually before it went down, because I knew it was coming. 593 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 10: Ian had the report ready and I. 594 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: Was talking as somebody who speaks regularly to players down 595 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: in Philly, and he said, you know, it's so funny. 596 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: I just had this conversation with a couple of guys 597 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: the other day and they were talking glowingly about Patricia. 598 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't even think they knew that the move was coming, 599 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: but they were talking about this guy is so shocked. Okay, 600 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: he knows his stuff. He's impressed him to the upside 601 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: since he's been there. So I think these defensive players 602 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: are excited to go out, go out there and play 603 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: for him. Well, I know he and Slay had a history. 604 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: Slay's not gonna play He's got that and just Case 605 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: is watching them calling him Slay. It's ironic he had 606 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: that knee surgery. So yeah, I think these guys are 607 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: gonna go out and play hard for Matt Patricia. I 608 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: think they're excited by the prospect and being their coordinator. 609 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 4: Well, and you have to hope for the players that 610 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 4: you know, he's started how to communicate better and he 611 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: did learn from his experience in Detroit, because we do 612 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: know with the Patriots he was a good DC. 613 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 5: Just real quick speaking to dcs. 614 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: You know some guys who I think are going to 615 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 4: keep their teams in contention, and you talked about it, Mike, 616 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: you you're almost penalized for having great players. 617 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 5: But I think the job. 618 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: Steve Wilkes has done since he's come down from the 619 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 4: booth onto the field with one of the few changes 620 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: that we've seen so to speak with the San Francisco 621 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 4: forty nine ers, that's helped that defense has been so 622 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 4: excuse me, so much better since they won in a 623 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: three game losing streak. So, you know, the job Steve 624 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 4: Wilkes has done absolutely needs to be commended. And in Cincinnati, 625 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: you know, I just did a production meeting with lou 626 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: Ana Roumo. 627 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 5: Their numbers aren't there. 628 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 4: They don't say they're a great defense, but they make 629 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 4: the timely plays you have to make JP when you 630 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 4: make a playoff run. 631 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: Oh for sure, those are two really good picks. 632 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with a coordinator that we kind of 633 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: mentioned a little bit earlier, and Joe Brady. 634 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: This is a big part of the turnaround. 635 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: When I talk to people in Buffalo, specifically guys on 636 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: that side of the ball, it's Josh Allen is having fun. 637 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: Josh Allen is playing in rhythm, and Josh Allen is 638 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: having the ability to have positive plays stacked on one 639 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: another to where they can go see him be that 640 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: Superman type player that they're gonna need in times. They 641 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: didn't need it against Dallas, but they're gonna need it 642 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: in these last couple of weeks. And he's also found 643 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: ways to get James Cook the football in a variety 644 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: of ways, and I think that's been huge, the change 645 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: in the run game, the emphasis there, Mike. 646 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: I think Joe Brady's done a great job there. 647 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: Just getting your quarterback comfortable is huge, especially when they're 648 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: as talented as Josh Allen. 649 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: My coordinator on fire right now is Dave Canalis down 650 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: there with the Buccaneers. I covered the Giants back in 651 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. Everybody thought it was gonna be 652 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: one and done for Tom Cofflin. He was looking for 653 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator and a lot of people didn't want 654 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: the job, wouldn't even interview. 655 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 5: Well. 656 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: Steve Spagnolo, who was dying to become a defensive coordinator 657 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: after being a position coach for quite some time in Philadelphia, 658 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: jumped at the chance. It went on and won the 659 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The rest is history. Spag still winning Super 660 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: Bowls as a coordinator. Dave Canalis in a job search 661 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: where a lot of folks for saying, yeah, I don't know, 662 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: not a lot of money being spent. Who is the 663 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: quarterback even gonna be? Is Todd Bowles gonna be one 664 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: and done now that Tom Brady's gone and they're kind 665 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: of unloading day. Canalis ran right into that one and said, 666 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: I want my opportunity, and he has taking it and 667 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: the positivity that he brings. If you just follow him 668 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: on Twitter, you see the positivity that he has. That's 669 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: what the Buccaneers needed in this type of situation. I 670 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: think he's done a great job and he's certainly setting 671 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: himself up to start being on the radar for head 672 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: coaching jobs in the future, but also keeping this thing 673 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: moving and keeping this coaching staff moving toward twenty twenty 674 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: four with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, nobody's firing Todd Bowles anymore. 675 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: Baker thanks him, He's got Baker Mayfield, Bacon, Mike g awesome, 676 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 4: great stuff. 677 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 5: Appreciate you. 678 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 4: Hope to back here on some more Mondays coming up 679 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: and will we come back. 680 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 5: Oh, always those forty nine they did it again. 681 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: Is brock Perty the MVP or is Christian McCaffrey the MVP. 682 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 4: We have that talk and more with omar Ruiz next 683 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 4: on the NFL Report. We're back at the NFL Report 684 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: and JP. Now we are joined by our guy, oh 685 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 4: ar Ruiz, who was at the San Francisco forty nine 686 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 4: ers big win over the Arizona Cardinals. 687 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 5: When I say it's a big win because. 688 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 4: Oh, they won the NFC West as expected. 689 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, back to back championships in that division is interesting 690 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 11: because Fred Warner said after the game that last year, 691 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 11: when they clinched, he gave a speech to the locker 692 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 11: room saying they've got to appreciate these moments. 693 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 5: They don't come around that much. 694 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 11: And he said he immediately regretted that speech, but he 695 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 11: said that should be the standard. The division championship should 696 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 11: be the least of their accomplishments every year. So they 697 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 11: did it again. It reassured that that commitment. And then 698 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 11: Kyle Shanahan I asked him after the game the significance 699 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 11: because the forty nine ers have not been shy about 700 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 11: their ultimate goal winning a game in Las Vegas in February, 701 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 11: of course, but Shanahan said the guys were celebratory in 702 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 11: the locker room. 703 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 5: He told me it was huge for them. 704 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 11: They don't want to lose these moments, milestones along the 705 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 11: way to a pre these moments in the season. But 706 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 11: certainly as they go forward now the focus gets back 707 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 11: to playing those two playoff games at home, making sure 708 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 11: they get that buye. Of course, they're in this position 709 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 11: because they have those two MVP candidates, Brock Purty and 710 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 11: Christian McCaffrey. And after the game, I asked Brought to 711 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 11: make a case for Christian McCaffrey as MVP, and he said, 712 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 11: Christian McCaffrey should be the MVP because he does everything 713 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 11: for us. 714 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 5: He runs the. 715 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 11: Football like you see him here, he puts his head down, 716 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 11: he initiates contact. He's great in blocking the most wide open. 717 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 11: He says, he's ever been on this play to backpedal 718 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 11: as far as he did, fall his face on the 719 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 11: ground and still have time to go into the end 720 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 11: zone uncutch. The way he does everything. Perty said, that 721 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 11: is how an MVP ought to play. Pretty even commented 722 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 11: on his own candidacy. It says it's an honor, but 723 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 11: He's just surrounded by a great team, surrounded by guys 724 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 11: willing to make plays. He said, the entire team is 725 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 11: an MVP. So nothing but good vibes here heading into 726 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 11: Baltimore for the San Francisco forty nine ers. 727 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: They it's at the brakes, nothing but good vibes. 728 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: No, not when you give up two hundred and thirty 729 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: four yards on the ground, though, that's not what you 730 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: want to do, especially when you have the Ravens coming 731 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: to town next week. What are they saying about what 732 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: they didn't do defensively that needs to be corrected before 733 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: this massive game against Baltimore. 734 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 11: Really, it's been the last few games I've done a 735 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 11: poor job tackling. When you go back to the Philadelphia 736 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 11: game and then Seattle last week, and of course yesterday 737 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 11: against Arizona, James Connor running wild two hundred and thirty 738 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 11: four yards. You mentioned it, James Fred Warner saying that 739 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 11: fundamentals tackling were all issues in that game yesterday and 740 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 11: something that they will need to get short up. In fact, 741 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 11: they scored their first defensive touchdown of the season, and 742 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 11: I asked Warner, is that how this defense evolves? Is 743 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 11: that how they get better by being an aggressive attacking 744 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 11: defense that can now put points on the board, obviously 745 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 11: with Tavarius Awards pick six they had yesterday, and Warner 746 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 11: told me, no, that doesn't matter if they don't tackle 747 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 11: well and they don't play fundamentally sound, so that will 748 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 11: be an issue. What I will say though, about the 749 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 11: character of this team, the character of the locker room, 750 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 11: that not a single mention yesterday that I heard was 751 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 11: that they were missing Eric Armstead and Javon Harvey, their 752 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 11: two stud defense and tackles on the interiory of that 753 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 11: defensive line. They could have made all those excuses with 754 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 11: those guys not there. Not only did they not make 755 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 11: those excuses, they didn't even mention their absence. So the 756 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 11: accountability a big reason why they're so good, not to 757 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 11: mention their talent of course. 758 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 4: Well, and winning also helps put a salve on any 759 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 4: type of flaws in a game like that. 760 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 5: Omar, Also, you were at the Colts. 761 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 4: You were at the Colts Steelers game on Saturday, and 762 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew, mister Jeordes, let's keep on winning ball games 763 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 4: for the Colts. I mean, it's been amazing. He's been 764 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: in the starting lineup for most of the season. You 765 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 4: spoke with him after that big dub that kept them 766 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 4: in the playoff chase. 767 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 5: What did you have to say. 768 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 11: Yeah, we chatted a little while in the locker room 769 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 11: before he left for the day, and he said the 770 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 11: confidence is riding high, the confidence that he has in 771 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 11: his offensive line, especially when you consider they ran the 772 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 11: football fourteen straight times against the Steelers to really put 773 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 11: that away against the Steelers team that prides itself on 774 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 11: physicality and winning in the trenches. So the confidence is there, 775 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 11: and the confidence of the locker room is in Gardner Minshew. 776 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 11: In fact, I spoke with Zach Moss before the game. 777 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 11: He said he's had confidence in Gardner Minshew since they 778 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 11: were in college. And Gardner Minshew put about four hundred 779 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 11: and fifty yards on Moss's Utah team accounted for four touchdowns, 780 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 11: So they have the confidence there. And I asked Minshew 781 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 11: about how good this team can be, because I think 782 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 11: the storyline of this season is that the Colts are tough, 783 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 11: they're gritty, but let's not lose sight. They have a 784 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 11: lot of talent on that team. And Minshew told me 785 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 11: that they're still figuring out how good they can be. 786 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 11: They're still figuring out what guys do best, and that 787 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 11: gives them a lot of hope down the stretch here 788 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 11: the last three games of the season, still in that 789 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 11: playoff positioning, still at eight and six, and if they 790 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 11: can reach that maximum height to where this Colts team 791 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 11: can go, they'll be in a good position down the 792 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 11: stretch here. 793 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to speak out of turn guys, but 794 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: there could be an argument, honestly, mate, that Shane Steikens 795 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: really moved to bring Gardner Minshew with him from Philadelphia 796 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: to Indianapolis was one of the biggest, if not biggest 797 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: free agent signings of this offseason. It's because of where 798 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: the Colts are and I don't know if they would 799 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: be there without Gardner Minshew and without Shane Styking knowing 800 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 2: his quarterback and knowing how to use him to his strengths. Oh, 801 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: like you're talking about with Shane knowing so much about 802 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: these guys on this roster and playing to their strength. 803 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 2: So with that said, and I mentioned Shane steiken who 804 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 2: is heavily in the conversation for Coach of the Year 805 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: with what he's doing. You had a conversation with him 806 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: before this game started, and I'm not interesting that he's 807 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: been challenging this team in certain ways. 808 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, when you talk about this team and it's confident 809 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 11: down this stretch, it's really because they've been in this 810 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 11: fight or flight mode all season long and early in 811 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 11: the year. I asked Shane steichen Or on Saturday before 812 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 11: the game. I asked him how he's been getting this 813 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 11: team to believe in itself. They're in the playoff thick 814 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 11: of the race, not just in the race, but actually 815 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 11: in playoff positioning. And he said, you know, with all 816 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,479 Speaker 11: the stuff that they've faced, Anthony Richardson, their star rookie 817 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 11: quarterback getting hurt, Jonathan Taylor missing half the year, he 818 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 11: challenged them, who are you in the face of adversity? 819 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 11: And he says, they've responded all year long, and we 820 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 11: saw that on display certainly on Saturday. They had Michael Pittman, 821 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 11: their star receiver, go down. Zach Moss, who's had a 822 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 11: great year behind Jonathan Taylor, he went down. They had 823 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 11: guys from the practice squad like Tyler Goodson step up 824 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 11: and average better than six yards of Cary DJ Montgomery, 825 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 11: who's rarely played, drops a touchdown in the end zone, 826 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 11: then comes back and scores a touchdown. So it's all 827 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 11: part of the culture that Shane Steiken has established. Their 828 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 11: multiple players in the locker room talking about the energy 829 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 11: that he's infused into that building. They've responded, they're believing 830 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 11: in themselves. And I think Zayir Franklin said it best 831 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 11: when we're talking about the talent on this team. Of course, 832 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 11: are Franklin leads the National Football League and tackles. They 833 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 11: still have Kenny Moore, who's many considered to be the 834 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 11: best nickel corner in football. To Forrest Buckner obviously has 835 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 11: been great his entire career along the defensive line. 836 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 5: And Franklin said, a lot. 837 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 11: Of people, because we had a bad year last season, 838 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 11: threw us in the trash. Those were his words, and 839 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 11: he said, now we know we have the talent on 840 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 11: this team, we have the belief, we have the culture, 841 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 11: and so because they've been in fight or flight mode, 842 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 11: they feel like they've been in that playoff environment. So 843 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 11: down the stretch here, in these critical three remaining games, 844 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 11: they all have the confidence to try to play their 845 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 11: way into the postseason. 846 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: Well, another man's trash is Shane Steiken's treasure. It is 847 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: uh Omar as he has turned something into these Indianapolis Colts, 848 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: and you look at what he's doing, and you look 849 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 2: at what Jonathan Gannon's doing. As we talked about what 850 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 2: the Cardinals did and how physical and how hard they 851 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: played against the forty nine Ers. Those are two really 852 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: good coaches that walked out the door in Philadelphia this 853 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 2: past year. 854 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 3: We know that Eagles are missing, honestly, both of them 855 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 3: quite a bit. 856 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,479 Speaker 2: Omar appreciated as always inside. Omar was in the house, Steve, 857 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 2: he was in the house. He does this weekend double depth. 858 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: It was phenomenal. We're gonna have Jeff Chedeah with his 859 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: first read column and we're gonna talk about the Chargers 860 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: a little bit because the Raiders did something to the 861 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 2: Chargers on Thursday that obviously led to them parting ways 862 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: with Tom Tolesco and with Brandon Staley. What's next for 863 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 2: the Chargers and maybe some other coaching discussions with Jeff 864 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: Jedia coming up next in the NFL report, o'conna. 865 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 5: Up the first town gonna throw. 866 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 4: He had old Dad Receivers Raiders in Controller. 867 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 5: The first. 868 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 4: Oh, you've heard the radio call of the Raiders absolute 869 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 4: dismantling the Chargers last Thursday and James. We are joined 870 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 4: by Jeff Shedia for his weekly Monday Appearances First Read 871 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 4: column NFL dot Com slash First Read and Jeff, one 872 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 4: thing before we get to the Raiders, and I really 873 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 4: love this column is you talked about these teams on 874 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 4: the fringe of the playoffs, not the teams that are 875 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 4: in the top seven slots. 876 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 5: And I'd love to start off. 877 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 4: With your first team rights there the Houston Texans, who 878 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 4: got a big win this week with Case Keenum coming 879 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 4: in for the injured CJ. 880 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 5: Shroud and their hopes moving forward. 881 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, look, I gave a reason for hope 882 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 9: for every team that's on the bubble or in the hunt, 883 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 9: and for them, I went with culture because I think 884 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 9: they get short change with what they've done down there 885 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 9: with Jmiko Ryans and Nick Casario. 886 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 7: And it's all about J. 887 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 5: Stroud. 888 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 9: I know he's been a great pick, but. 889 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: He wasn't there yesterday. 890 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 9: They had to get a big win being on Case Keenum. Obviously, 891 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 9: Johnthan Greenhard has been a great player for them this year, 892 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 9: Stephen Nelson's may plays. They found ways to get a 893 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 9: lot some huge contributions from guys we didn't talk much 894 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 9: about it, didn't know much about and. 895 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 3: That says a lot about what they built as far 896 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 3: as culture. 897 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 9: So I'm really encouraged about their opportunity here because one, 898 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 9: as I said, they've got guys who want to win 899 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 9: and know how to win, but they're also playing in division. 900 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 9: Now it's getting really interesting because Jacksonville's falling back to 901 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 9: the pack. The Colts are in there. Everybody's eight and six, 902 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 9: everybody's got a shot now. 903 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: I keep hearing how prepared this team is when I 904 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: talk to players on both sides of ball, it's phenomenal. 905 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 2: I love that you mentioned Jonathan Gernard too. He's got 906 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 2: twelve and a half sacks this year. He's like, he's 907 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: been phenomenal. Opposite of Will Anderson. Let's go down two spots, 908 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 2: Jeff to the Steelers, and I love your reason for hope. 909 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's track record, and it is a remarkable track record. 910 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 3: We know it. 911 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: He's never had a losing season in his career, but 912 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 2: a track record is a track record till. 913 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 3: It isn't anymore. Could this be the year? Is that? Really? 914 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 2: What they're relying on is that Mike Tomlin's done it 915 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 2: in the past, So that's gonna hopefully wiel them into it. 916 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 3: With the roster they have now. 917 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, it's not gonna be effort from his receivers, 918 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 9: because it's gonna have to be He's got to be 919 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 9: cracking from up high right now to make it work. 920 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 9: And if he makes it work, you'll be a great accomplishment. 921 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 9: I remember this team a couple of years ago when 922 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 9: Ben Roethlisberger at the end of his run, and I thought, man, 923 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 9: how that teamed me out in the playoffs of what 924 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 9: they had going. They were seven seven and one with 925 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 9: two games ago, and they found a way to get in. 926 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 9: This team's kind of the same boat. Just they're not 927 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 9: very talented on offense. They're they're limited as far as 928 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 9: skilled players are. Playing with a third string quarterback now, 929 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 9: Mason Rudolph. The defense hadn't been what we've grown accustomed 930 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 9: to in Pittsburgh, and it's just it's been that way 931 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 9: all year long. So yeah, I think Mike Tomlin being 932 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 9: able to get this team just to be in this 933 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 9: position has been amazing. But if he's able to get 934 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 9: them a couple more wins out of it, given the 935 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 9: way they've been going, I would say that's been the 936 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 9: best coaching's always ever done in his life. 937 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 4: What's gonna be awesome is we get the transactions today 938 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 4: and they're signing a new quarterback to the practice squad 939 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 4: named track Record. But Jeff, you know you mentioned Mike 940 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 4: Tomlin and then this is intriguing to me because we 941 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 4: hear it every other year ourselves, like it's time for Mike. 942 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 5: It's time for him to go? Is it time? 943 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 4: Because like you said, you got wide receivers not given effort. 944 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 5: This offense is in shambles. I mean they've already had 945 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 5: to make a move at coordinator. I don't think it's time. 946 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 5: I think maybe he changes some things personnel wise and 947 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 5: coordinator wise. 948 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 4: But if they let him go, Mike Toallin would be 949 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 4: the fastest coach hired this offseason in my opinion. 950 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 9: It would be like Andy re when he left Philadelphia 951 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 9: and wound up with a Chiefs. It would be that 952 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 9: level of quickness as far as getting hiring and the 953 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 9: potential for the next team to be that successful moving forward. Yeah, 954 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 9: it's for my money. He's one of the best coaches 955 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 9: in NFL history. He's a Hall of Famer, and we 956 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 9: know that organization is not going to get rid of 957 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 9: Mike Towllin on a whim. It would have to be. 958 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 9: It would have to be where Bill Beltzic sat with 959 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 9: the Patriots for it to be at that level where 960 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 9: you could no confidently talk about that kind of a conversation. 961 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 9: I think he's going through a transition. They've got a 962 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 9: lot of young players. You know, Hines Ward told me 963 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 9: this a long time ago about the Steelers. When they 964 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 9: don't run the football, well, they're not playing good defense. 965 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 9: They're a different team. They got to get back to 966 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 9: building that offensive lineup. They gotta get back to playing 967 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 9: great defense. They gotta find skilled players who want to 968 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 9: be there and want to play hard. I think it's 969 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 9: not that hard of a fix. But one thing I 970 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 9: don't question whether Mike Tompsion is the right gut to 971 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 9: be there to fix it. 972 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we're all gonna look this offseason 973 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: right at Pittsburgh and go, all right, who is he 974 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: picking to run that offense that you're describing, Jeff right 975 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: Who does he bring in as that offensive coordinator. That's 976 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 2: gonna be the thing I think that everybody's going to 977 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 2: evaluate in terms of turning this thing around. Because I 978 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 2: agree with you in your stance on Mike Tomlin now 979 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 2: a coach that won't say is not on the hot 980 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: seat because the seat's gone down at the bottom of 981 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 2: your college. 982 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 3: You said, the biggest surprise of the week was the 983 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 3: last game. 984 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 2: For Brandon Staley and the Chargers on that Thursday night 985 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 2: and what the Raiders did to them. I kind of 986 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 2: want to push this forward because that was you know, 987 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 2: that was again none of us saw coming after what 988 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 2: the Raiders did the previous week and couldn't Where do 989 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 2: they go with this coach coaching search? You think in 990 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 2: your opinion, Jeff, because this we talked about talent and 991 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 2: lack thereof. This team has talent and it has a core. 992 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 9: I think one thing that was really interesting we're intriguing 993 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 9: about the move, not just the vire brains Taily, but 994 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 9: to fire your own manager Tom to LESCo, was that 995 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 9: opened the door to getting a very high profile, high 996 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 9: maintenance and coach. You know, I've heard talk about Bill 997 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 9: Belichick being in the COUNDA. There's people who said, yeah, 998 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 9: I mean that's the thing. You thought, there's no way 999 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 9: you could wind up there because they already have a GM. 1000 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 5: They don't anymore, and they've. 1001 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 9: Invited the opportunity for the next coach to pickings GM 1002 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 9: to have GM powers. Jim Harbaugh was the guy who 1003 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 9: I joked about earlier this year to be in that running. 1004 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 9: I think he wants to have those kind of powers. 1005 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 9: I think now that door opens to him. I think 1006 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 9: they're going to just take a like the assistant of 1007 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 9: the flavor of the month type assistant, like a Ben Johnson. Now, 1008 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 9: I think it's going to be a big cause. You 1009 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 9: think about the division. Now got Andy Reid, you got 1010 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 9: Sean Payton, you want to play ball with some of 1011 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 9: these guys, you better have somebody who knows how to 1012 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 9: win championships you're building. 1013 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be real interesting if they get a 1014 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 4: CEO type to come in here and do that, because 1015 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 4: you know, when you look at some of the things, 1016 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 4: you know. 1017 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 5: They had to report. 1018 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 4: Ian Ian had a report in RAPWAD Report this week 1019 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 4: that Dan Quinn could be a possibility. 1020 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 5: And we know that when you talk to people in Dallas. 1021 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 4: He is that culture dude. He's the one who's got 1022 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 4: everybody playing. He can keep Kellen Moore as the OC 1023 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 4: for continuity with me, right, But this charger's job is 1024 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 4: going to be the one that people want because of 1025 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 4: Justin Herbert. I know you said a CEO type is 1026 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 4: a possibility, but why not a Ben Johnson. Why not 1027 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 4: somebody who can scheme up stuff? With an Andy Reid 1028 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 4: and with a Sean Payton. That seems like somebody like 1029 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 4: they would want more of instead of the. 1030 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 5: CEO type, which to be very uncharger like. 1031 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 9: By the way, well, I think if you're going to 1032 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 9: go that route, you already got a guy in your building, 1033 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 9: and Kellen Moore who fits the description right. You know, 1034 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 9: he's got that offensive background. 1035 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 3: He was a sexy name a year or two ago. 1036 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 5: So if you wanted to go that right, you could 1037 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 5: go that way. 1038 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 3: But they also come. 1039 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 9: Look in their own division and see, well, wasn't Josh 1040 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 9: mcdane's supposed to be that with the Raiders and. 1041 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 3: We saw how that worked out. 1042 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 9: I mean, it's because you're a great play caller, that 1043 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 9: doesn't mean you're gonna be a great head coach. And 1044 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 9: I don't know if they can afford to take that 1045 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 9: chance anymore with Justin Herbert there. I mean, ultimately, you 1046 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 9: have to have somebody who can come in and not 1047 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 9: just help him as a quarterback, but helped build a 1048 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 9: team around him that. 1049 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 3: Wants to play. 1050 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 9: It helps him elevate himself into that conversation with Josh 1051 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 9: Allen's the Lamar Jackson, the Patrick Mahomes as the other 1052 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 9: great young quarterbacks of Joe Burrow. Because he's not there 1053 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 9: yet and somebody's got to help. 1054 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 5: Him get there. 1055 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the biggest part. And when Steve said that, 1056 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 2: be very unchargers, like because the last several coaches have 1057 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 2: been what first time head coaches there and they've had 1058 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 2: the younger route. And now I do look at what 1059 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 2: Jeff's saying, because I mentioned the core, it's also a 1060 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: core that has talent but has injury issues and probably 1061 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 2: some decisions you're gonna have to make about a couple 1062 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 2: of those players, excluding Justin Herbert obviously, but those other guys, 1063 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 2: you have some thoughts that you have to make in 1064 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 2: terms of what their future is with or without the tamais. 1065 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 2: They're all getting a little bit older too, Like if 1066 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 2: you look at where they're at in terms of age. 1067 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 3: Jeff, this is a great column. 1068 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite ones, honestly, because I 1069 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 2: hope you know that's what the s on the chest 1070 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 2: is for for Superman, for Hope, I love. 1071 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 3: I look at you putting your DC now is there. 1072 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 5: Now? 1073 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 3: I stole that from Gerald McCoy on Game day morning. 1074 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 3: I was just waiting for my head. 1075 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 4: Hey all right, Jeff, appreciate you. We have got to 1076 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 4: get out of here. If you're watching us, you know 1077 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 4: where to find us. But every Monday and Thursday seven 1078 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 4: seven fifteen pm Eastern Time on the NFL app Broku 1079 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 4: to be Pluto on the NFL channel. Also listen to 1080 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 4: the podcast JP we. 1081 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 5: Gotta get out of Here, another great show. 1082 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 4: We want to think our special guests, including Justin Jefferson, 1083 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 4: and we will catch you on Thursday seven point fifteen 1084 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 4: pm once again on the NFL Report