1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Jack Wars. Did you go, Jack Wuars? Did you Jaguars 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Drive Time? Brian Sex steps, John Oases actually sell Jaguars 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Drag A Time starts right now. Welcome in and welcome 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: back to Jack's Drive Time, our first show of the 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: off season. We're gonna be here every Tuesday morning at 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: ten am, live here with you, starting back up after 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Sunday, and I bring in Brian Sexton and 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: John Osier. We are reunited, and sadly we are reunited. 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: Brian with some sad news. We were just talking on 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: the podcast last week about the coaching search and we're 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: awaiting that coaching announcement, and Brian Schottenheimer is one of 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: the reported names for passing game coordinator and we just 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: got some sad news about his father. Well, uh, we 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: did talk about Marty, who was one of the great 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: coaches in NFL history. He never won a Super Bowl 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: and so people will say, well, great's the wrong term. 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean great in terms of the person that he was, 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: his results. He's the eighth old time winning his coach 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: and I think he's the only coach to win at 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: least ten games with three different clubs. Of course, of 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland Kansas City, Washington, San Diego, places where he stopped. 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: UM fond of him. I grew up in Kansas City. 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: He was the head coach there and then he used 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: to come down every year for the j Fund Tom 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: Coughlin's endeavors and would sit and tell stories. And of 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: course he was connected back to the old days as 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: a player in the a f L with the Bills. 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he knew the names and just a good man. 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: And I think he's off of a lot of radar 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: screens and has been for a while. It's been suffering 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: with Olzheimer's. But condolences to the Schottenheimer family. Truly one 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: of those guys that if you ever had the chance 33 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: to sit and have a cup of coffee or a 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: beer with you would have walked away having felt richer 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: for your experience with Coach Schottenheimer. Yes, definitely some sad news. 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: And we are here for a reason and that is 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: the off season has begun as we get into big things, 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: and big thing one is the off season. We're now 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: day to week one of the off season, right after 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, and that means the start of a 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: new year and a change for the Jaguars. A limited 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: virtual NFL combine coming up and a chance to look 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: at those eleven draft picks. Change up to the schedule 44 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: that we thought though leads us too Big Thing too, 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: which is Friday. We were all looking forward to Trevor 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Lawrence is Pro Day, but Adam Schefter tweeted out late 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: last week that the favorite number one overall pick, most 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: likely Trevor Lawrence, will not throw at his Pro day, 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: but instead will throw this Friday in front of NFL teams. 50 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: After that, he will have a left labor shoulder repair surgery. 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: No that it's his non throwing shoulders, So not the 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: biggest deal in the world, but something to keep our 53 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: eye on, that's for sure. And then Big Thing three 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: is a perfect example coming off the Super Bowl Sunday. 55 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: You see Tom Brady right there. Just two years ago 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: the Bucks only had five wins and had a a 57 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: lot of work to do. Made big time improvements in 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: their defense in two thousand nineteen and that led them 59 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: to seven wins, and now that the Super Bowl champions, 60 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: after getting their guy at quarterback. When you figure that 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: position out, it can change quickly, and it changed in 62 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: a matter of two years for the Buccaneers. So John. 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: We hate to make comparisons to Tom Brady, but if 64 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars get their guy at quarterback, this could be 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: the Jaguars and two short years we were talking about 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: it on the podcast. If the Jaguars get it right, 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: how many years would it take to get to the 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? I said to you, said three, Maybe we 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: can meet somewhere in the middle. Well, somewhere in the 70 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: middle would mean winning the super Bowl on on November 71 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: eight of what. Yeah, that sounds so I'm not sure 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: we're going to do that. But um, but you know, 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: they can improve a great deal very quickly. I don't 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: know that the super Bowl in the season is entirely 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: realistic with as much work that has to be done 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: and with as much maturation as whoever is playing quarterback, 77 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: which we assume is Trevor Lawrence, would have to take. 78 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a little cautious by nature, especially have 79 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: had my coffee in the morning, so I'm not gonna 80 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: go to but getting the quarterback right, the draft picks, everything, 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: I think this year is going to be more growing 82 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: pains than people hope, maybe even Coach Meyer. But I 83 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: think it's going to be an accelerated pace in two playoffs. 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: We'll see, but it can. It can turn quickly when 85 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: you got the quarterback. Well, hey, look, I mean I 86 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: can give you examples, you know, going back even since 87 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: Brady came into the league and Ben Roethlisberger went in 88 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: when Tommy Maddox got hurt in two thousand four as 89 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: a rookie and they won thirteen consecutive games. He didn't 90 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: lose again until he lost to Brady in the a 91 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: f C Championship Game. The difference is that he walked 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: into a powerful football team. They had Jerome Bettis in 93 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: an offensive line. Their defense was really good, like it 94 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: always has been. So he just had to play well, 95 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: and he did. He played very, very well. I don't 96 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: think that's the situation here for for Trevor Lawrence when 97 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: he comes in, however, there is some talent there and 98 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: if he gets better quicker, I think you could get 99 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: it done. I think, you know. You look at mahomes In. 100 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: He came into the league, but he only played in 101 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: the season finale in Denver. He played really well, but 102 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: then the next year he steps into the starting lineup, boom, 103 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: they go all the way to the a f C 104 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Championship Game. So there are plenty examples of guys who 105 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: come in, they play well, they take a team they're 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: playing well, and it goes. But we don't know what 107 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: coach Meyer is going to do with this roster. We 108 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: don't know what he likes and what he thinks he 109 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: can do without how he's going to use the picks 110 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: in the salary cap room to sort of reshape it. 111 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: Um So any assumptions that we have right now are 112 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: just those assumptions. But I do think it's safe to 113 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: say if this kid is what we think he is, 114 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: and I know we're gonna talk with a Clemson reporter 115 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: coming up here in the show, if he's what we 116 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: think he is, there's a chance for them to improve dramatically. 117 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: Now you say, oh, come on, Sexton, I mean they 118 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,559 Speaker 1: were one in fifteen. Dramatic would be five and eleven. Yeah, 119 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean I think they could go to eight and 120 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: eight if everything worked out this year. That would be 121 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: dramatic improvement. We'll see, Yes, seven more winds would be dramatic. 122 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: And I won't lie to you, John. I saw the 123 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter tweet they had the notifications on. I saw 124 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence surgery. I had to read it a couple 125 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: of times, and there definitely was a bit of a 126 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: freak out. But then when you found out it was 127 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: his non throwing shoulder that he's getting surgery on it, 128 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: you calm down a little bit. We've heard some reports 129 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: and we've seen names where it's definitely affected the career 130 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: of someone with a throwing shoulder. Is this something to 131 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: be worried about. I don't think so, but maybe I'm 132 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: just optimistic. Well, I never call surgery minor because it's 133 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: only minor for people who don't have to go in 134 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: to see the doctor have the surgery. But overall, in 135 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: terms of his football career, this is almost a non story, 136 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: if you will. It's not his throwing shoulder. It's it 137 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: is said, and I'm not a doctor, but I play 138 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: one on the show. It's said that it's very very 139 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: my even for the labor, it wasn't even described as 140 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: a torn left labor. So again, I think Mark Long 141 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: tweeted out last week, I gotta take those left handed 142 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: throws out of the playbook now, if you're Irban Meyers. 143 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: So that's pretty much all it is. This is as 144 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: close to a non issue as a surgery can be, 145 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: although I'm glad I'm not the one going in for it. Yes, 146 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad as well. I'm also glad John that you 147 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: will most likely not be playing quarterback for the Jaguars 148 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: no offense. All right, So you have eased my nerves 149 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence. 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I really appreciate it. 191 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: Of course, so we have we've read about Trevor Lawrence, 192 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: we have watched interviews, but none of us really know 193 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: who he is. So this might sound like a vague question, 194 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: but what is he like? What do you know about him? Sure, 195 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: Trevor is extremely likable. I mean he's UM. I think 196 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: my favorite part of covering Trevor was that he's just 197 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: very consistent, always the same person after wins and losses. 198 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: Granted we did not see him lose often at Clemson, 199 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: only twice. Um, but he just has for someone who's 200 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: been in the spotlight since he was thirteen fourteen years old, UM, 201 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: he's extremely personable. Very down to earth, very relaxed, super chill. Um. 202 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:06,119 Speaker 1: I think that you'll his vibe a lot. And Um, 203 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, for those of us who have watched Trevor 204 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: on television on Lady, it looks like he's played at 205 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: a high level since the day he started into the 206 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: lineup as a freshman. But where has he gotten better? 207 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: You talked to the coaches and his teammates. Where has 208 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence gone up? Yeah? I think the biggest development 209 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: that we saw with Trevor is we all knew he 210 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: had the arm. Of course, that was why he was 211 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: the number one recruiting the nation, and that was kind 212 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: of what he was known for. Um. But after his 213 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: freshman season, between his freshman year and his sophomore year, 214 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: Clemson made a really intentional effort to make him more 215 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: of a runner, which I see on my screen right now. Um. 216 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: They wanted him to be more mobile and kind of 217 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: make him a weapon on the ground. And he took 218 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: a major leap in that regard from freshman to sophomore year. 219 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: And then we saw that again his junior year. And 220 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: that's something that Clemson has talked a lot about, is 221 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: you look at Trevor he's six six pounds. Dabosweeney has said, 222 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people don't give him enough 223 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: credit for how fast he is. Trevor's got some wheels. 224 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: He can move, um, and so I think that that's 225 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: where he developed the most initially and then continued to 226 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: build on that as he became an upperclassman and obviously 227 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: is now entering the draft. Grace Again, we appreciate you 228 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: doing this. Um, I knowe as a beat writer close 229 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: to the team. Uh, you know more about a player 230 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: that sometimes and sometimes makes the national narrative. What is it? 231 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: I guess give us something about Trevor that maybe doesn't 232 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: get talked a lot about by Kirk Herb Street on 233 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: ESPN when they're talking about these guys. Anything that you 234 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: know about him or can share it might bring the 235 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: Jaguars fans some insight over what this kids really like. 236 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think when you talk to people who 237 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: are close to Trevor and who know him super well, Um, 238 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: he's just he's very intentional within every aspect of his life. 239 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: Of course, we see him on the football field and 240 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: we see him, you know, absolutely carved up these defenses. 241 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: But when he was speaking out the way he did 242 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: this summer when he was leading me, we wants to 243 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: play movement the way this summer. I mean, he's still 244 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: a twenty one year old kid kind of figuring out 245 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: what's important to him, what he believes in, how he 246 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: wants to use his platform. But when you talk to 247 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: the people close to him, he's, UM, he's just always 248 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: very methodical. He's he's very smart, and he's very loyal. 249 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: He's just UM. I think that Jaguars fans will see 250 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: he's he's a great teammate. UM, he's very smart on 251 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: and off the field. UM. But I would say that 252 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing is that Trevor is one of 253 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: the one of the very few people that you cover 254 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: and you just never hear anything remotely questionable about him 255 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: or anything bad about him. He really is just the 256 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: same person every single day. Grace, you mentioned that he's 257 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: the same person. And we all know the record thirty 258 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: eight into only two losses in his college career, and 259 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: I think you can tell a lot about a player 260 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: in the losing and if it's a losing streak or 261 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: if it's just two games for Trevor Lawrence, what was 262 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: he like in those losses? Yeah, Trevor was. I remember 263 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: very vividly his first loss, which would have been that 264 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: LSU National championship game after the twenty nineteen season. Very poised, UM, 265 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: very still very One of the things I liked the 266 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: most about Trevor is Trevor has um what Dabo Sweeney says, 267 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: is really a photographic memory, and he can tell you 268 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. UM in this case, what went wrong, Uh, 269 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: what broke down? And so just just the same guy 270 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: explaining to us kind of what he saw, what he 271 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: made of it. Um. He had understood that, of course 272 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: he had an incredible winning streak, and he of course 273 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: wanted to to win all of the games, but understood 274 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: that winning was hard and and and came to terms 275 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: with it. And same thing after this past year. I mean, 276 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: I think we all knew the writing was on the wall. 277 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: That was the last time that we would see Trevor 278 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: in the Clinton uniform after the after the Sugar Bowl. UM. 279 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: But just very thoughtful. Uh. He actually thanked the media 280 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: after his twenty nineteen lost to l s U. UM. 281 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Just just super consistent, always willing to answer really any 282 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: question that you have for him to hear. This may 283 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: be a self evident question, Grace, and I apologize at 284 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: the star quarterbacks, especially guys who win and are as 285 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: personable as he is. Um, they're very well liked in 286 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: the locker room, beloved. How did his teammates react to him? 287 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: And you couldn't look in the guy's eyes and see 288 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: what he thinks of his teammates? What was it like 289 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: in the Clemson locker room for for Trevor and how 290 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: did his teammates react? Yeah, I think Trevor. The defining 291 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: moment that I remember in terms of Trevor really winning 292 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: over this team was when in he's a true freshman, 293 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: it's week five and he's just won the starting job, 294 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: and he has just dethroned Kelly Bryant, who was obviously 295 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: a senior. He was the incumbent. He was extremely well liked, 296 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: and so Trevor had kind of come in obviously wanting 297 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: to compete for a job, but not wanting to necessarily 298 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: ruffle any feathers. And I remember very vivid. I think 299 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: the moment that everyone knew that they were going to 300 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: be in great hands was right after Trevor won the 301 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: starting job. UH. Former Clemson defens attackle Christian Wilkins took 302 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: him out to breakfast. Christian was a senior at the time, 303 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: and then that same week, Trevor paid it forward and 304 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: took the entire starting happinsive line out to breakfast on 305 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: his tab as a freshman. And I think that that 306 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: was the moment when Um, of course everyone was going 307 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: to rally around him anyway. Of course they knew this 308 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: is a talent that you can't deny. And and Clemson 309 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: had the best chance of winning when the ball was 310 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: in his hands. UM. But I think from there on 311 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: out he really earned the respect of his teammates. And 312 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: then from there it just built and built and built 313 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: into a friendship. Um. And as Dabos Sweeney says, you know, 314 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: by a sophomore year, he was the leader of the offense, 315 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: and by his junior year, he was a leader of 316 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: the team. Grace. I'm wondering schlenn sort of alluded to 317 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: this earlier that things haven't gone wrong for Trevor a 318 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: whole lot. But when he's asked during the course of 319 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: a game to adjust maybe call to play with the 320 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, when things go wrong, how is he 321 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: handled that? During his three years? That's what I think 322 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: makes Trevor so good. And you talked to coaches who've 323 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: had to play against him, and that's sometimes that's that's 324 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: a lot of what they say is the hardest part 325 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: is that when things go wrong or things look like 326 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: they're breaking down, Trevor can still make something happen. And 327 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: so I think that we don't talk enough about his 328 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: ability to process because of course we look at his arm, 329 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: we look at these six six and he's making these 330 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: crazy throws and all of these things. But um, he's 331 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: a really smart football player. And the more confidence he 332 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: got in Clemson system, the more confidence he got in 333 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: the offense, uh, the more we saw that come through. 334 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: And so I think that that's another thing that's maybe 335 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: a little underrated about Trevor is that he's pretty good 336 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: under pressure. And and as dab of Sweeney has pointed 337 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: out many times, some of Trevor's best throws, some of 338 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: his most impressive throws have have come on when he's 339 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: scrambling and kind of on the move, trying to figure out, 340 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: all right, let me see if I can make something 341 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: happen here. All high praising great things to say about 342 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: the favorite number one overall pick Trevor Lawrence Grace, thanks 343 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. We appreciate your time. Yeah, 344 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: thank tho so much for having me. Appreciate it. All right, 345 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again soon. 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Of course, we're 381 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: gonna start talking about the NFL Draft for weeks and 382 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: weeks to come, So stay with us. This is our 383 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: new segment beyond number one. And we made this segment because, Brian, 384 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: we're all going to talk about Trevord Lawrence at nauseam 385 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: and that number one overall picks. Yeah, all the news 386 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: is good news as of now, but we kind of 387 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: forget that there are ten other picks in the NFL Draft. 388 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna lay them out right here with this lovely 389 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: graphic and looking in them all up. The biggest thing 390 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: that stood out to me is five drafts in the 391 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: first three rounds, and at times those third rounds can 392 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: really be gems, like for example, Davon Hamilton's last year. Brian, 393 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: So this is the money rounds, I guess you can 394 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: say as those first three rounds and having the capital 395 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: of five picks is huge. Well, to be clear, having 396 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence at number one makes this entire exercise that 397 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: much better. When you have the quarterback now you can 398 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: build with the rest of your team. The Jaguars have 399 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: been swinging at that position so long, both with draft 400 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: picks and the salary cap that everything else, you know, 401 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: seem to just kind of be pieces. Now you can 402 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: really attack him. And you look at the list, they're 403 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: they're twenty five and thirty three and forty five and 404 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: sixty and they've got a lot of capital in the 405 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: first two days of the draft, and I think it 406 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: and thirty three it's where I'm most interested right now. 407 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Of course, we're all assuming the Trevor Lawrence is to pick, 408 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: and I hope to continue to assume that. Um, you know, 409 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: but there's there's so many positions where there are going 410 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: to be players there. We've dune that offense of defensive tackle, 411 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: they're most certainly will be offensive tackles in that range 412 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: between twenty five and thirty three. There may be a 413 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, though, as John As has enumerated over many shows, 414 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: this is not a draft where defensive tackles are a plenty. 415 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: There may be a cornerback or a safety sitting right there. 416 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: You're going to be able to substantially upgrade your roster 417 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: at thirty three. Let's throw forty five in there as well. 418 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean, just look back at some of the second 419 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: round picks because chinl Jr. You know, Ping into mind there. 420 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and we just got a glimpse of what 421 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: he can be. And you talked about Davon Hamilton's in 422 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: the third round. I mean, you're looking at future starters 423 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: through the first five or six picks that the Jaguars have, 424 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: and in a normal year you'd be looking at you know, 425 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: if you get three starters, long term starters out of this, 426 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: that's a really good draft. But because of the capital 427 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: that was put in place through various trades, and Dave 428 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: Caldwell did a really good job at leaving this draft capital, 429 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars are in a plumb position thirty three and forty five. 430 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: It's going to be a really rich harvest for the 431 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: Jaguars right there. Totally agree. And I go back to 432 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: last year in Indianapolis, John and I remember we started 433 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: talking about this draft process and we said, you know, 434 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: I bet that they package something. I bet that they 435 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: trade up and trade down because they had a lot 436 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: of draft capital last year as well. And I catch 437 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: myself saying that now, But they also have a ton 438 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: of needs. So maybe they do need those eleven players, 439 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: and we're not going to see a lot of trading 440 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: up going on with all those picks. Well, Dave last 441 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: year opted not to do that. He opted to fill 442 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: out the roster with young players and didn't make a 443 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: move after everybody thought he would. My guess is from 444 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: what you know about Trent Balky and this is that 445 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: from talking to people with the Senior Bowl about Trent 446 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: the general manager, he likes to maneuver in the draft, 447 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: not necessarily always moving up for players, meaning it might 448 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: not go for me levin to seven picks. He likes 449 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: to move up and then move back to get as 450 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: many picks that makes sense in the right ranges for players. 451 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: And I will talk about that a lot more as 452 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: the draft approaches, but it's it's draft maneuvering, trying to 453 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: get your picks in the right spots for value. As 454 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: eleven picks, I would hate to see fewer picks in 455 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: that top sixty five because, as Brian alluded to, you 456 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: can get starters there. But with those six that are 457 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: below that, could you maneuver a little bit and improve 458 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: your position in the top sixty five to go after 459 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: a player that would make some sense to me. The 460 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: intriguing things still as defensive tackle, I don't know they 461 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: have the draft capital to go get a premier guy 462 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: this year or for premier guys there, cornerback, safety, receiver, 463 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: all those positions are historically where you can make Hay 464 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: so to speak, at twenty and thirty three, maybe even 465 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: offensive tackle. With those four positions, they're in good shape 466 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: in that sixty five range. And I definitely think you 467 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: could make hay And an offensive tackle as well. That 468 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: the names are there, and we all know not no 469 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: combined issue is gonna it's gonna make it more difficult 470 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: because we're gonna have to wait for guys to start 471 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: climbing the board. You know, you guys, you'd come back 472 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: from the combine, we'd start talking about names and then 473 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: we'd start to see their names shooting up in conversations, 474 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: UM about the draft, And we're going to wait on 475 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: that because we're gonna wait for pro days. But from 476 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: from people that I've talked to, there are a handful 477 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: of good, not elite, but really good prospects who will 478 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: be available past so I think that's worth it. Here's 479 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: the other point. The Jaguars have draft capital to go 480 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: swing at an offensive tackle or a defensive tackle or both. Um. 481 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: What they do there will be really interesting on draft day. 482 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's there is an embarrassment of riches right 483 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: now in terms of options that Urban Meyer and Trent 484 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: Bulky have and using them right is what they're planning for. 485 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see in a month, right the seventeenth 486 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: of March, when free agency begins, how that will start 487 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: outlining their plan for building this team. You could go 488 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: so many directions. We were told that the Senior Bowl 489 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: it's a very heavy offensive draft, so maybe you go 490 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: and grab those wide receivers, offensive line. But then you 491 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: make the argument, if there's not a lot of defensive 492 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: positions available, you gotta get them right there at So 493 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: we'll talk much more about that spot, but this week 494 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: wanted to give you the whole range of eleven draft picks. 495 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: When we come back on Jack's Drive Time, what's trending 496 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: around the NFL, all kinds of things after a Super 497 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday will be back on Jack's Drive Time. 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We're back. 524 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: Jack Drivetime Tuesday, brought to you by Jet Homelands, our 525 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: first show of the off season. You can catch us 526 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: every week now at ten o'clock live right here on 527 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, Live and social media. And we end 528 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: this show, this fabulous, fabulous show, with what's trending around 529 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. The first thing has to be the quarter 530 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: back carousel that has already gotten started, and just get 531 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: on and enjoy the ride, because this is something that 532 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna be paying attention to all off season as 533 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: we get ready for free agency. This started quickly, quicker 534 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 1: than I thought. John, this Matthew Stafford Jared Goff trade 535 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: that happened late on a Saturday evening. I had a 536 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: double check to make sure it was the right Adam 537 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: schefter because I don't know about you, but I just 538 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: I didn't expect it to happen so quickly, And I 539 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: feel like this was so well hidden. I had no 540 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: idea that this was going to happen, and it happened 541 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: so quickly. Well, it happened fast because the Rams feel 542 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: like they're a quarterback away, and if they're getting a 543 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: guy for three or four years, I don't want to 544 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: jump ahead. But to me, the intriguing thing right now 545 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: is number three on that graphic, the potential of Wentz 546 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: to the Colts, which you're starting to kind of here, 547 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: something's gonna happen with Carson Wentz and the next what 548 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: three four days? It sounds like or that's gonna be 549 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: the topic. To me, that is much more intriguing than 550 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: the Philip Rivers thing last year, because you knew Philip 551 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: was going to be a short time rental. Frank Wright 552 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: has experience with Carson Wentz. If they and save him 553 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: into a franchise quarterback that he looked like briefly against 554 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: the Eagles, all of a sudden, the Colts are said, 555 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: at that position, I think that can happen. But to me, 556 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 1: in the a f C South, that becomes sort of 557 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: storyline B behind Deshaun Watson right now, whence getting right 558 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: being with the Colts puts them in a very good 559 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: position to be really really good for a long time. 560 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if they can do it, but Frank 561 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: Reich is a very good quarterbacks coach can do that 562 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: with Went, So to me, that's the intriguing topic right now. Well, 563 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: a couple of things. First of all, the whole quarterback 564 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: dynamic changed a few years ago. Remember it was the 565 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals drafted Josh Roseen a tenth overall and it's 566 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: a serious commitment, right draft capital and money. Then the 567 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: next year they took Kyler Murray. So they showed you 568 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: right away if you don't think you have the guy. 569 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: Now there's the time, at this moment in league history 570 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: right where they're just moving quarterbacks, moving quarter backs, moving quarterbacks. 571 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the list, right, Matt Stafford, Carson Went, 572 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: Derek Carr should be on that list because of his contract, 573 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, DeShawn Watson, even though I don't think he 574 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: goes anywhere, the conversation is there, and and Matt Ryan, 575 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: who is still relatively young at thirty six. In other words, 576 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, you look at guys playing into their late thirties, 577 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: there's some some tread left on the tire. So the 578 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: dynamic now of quarterback carousel, I'm at we've never seen this. 579 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: The starters, guys who were drafted in the top ten, 580 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: who are all available. Uh, the name that stands out 581 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: the most to me is Sam Donald, because if the 582 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: Jets truly have decided that they're going to move on 583 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: and they're going to use the second overall pick on 584 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback, then Donald's the guy I think a lot 585 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: of teams would trade for because he's a guy that 586 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: he's playing with one year left on his rookie contract 587 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: and the fifth year option, so you're sending draft capital 588 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: and you're only paying him five million, and if he 589 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: plays well for you, you have the fifth year option 590 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: as leverage. And I think he's really talented. Guys just 591 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: been a bad situation there. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe people 592 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: don't think he's that good, or maybe there's some warning 593 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: signs in New York about Sam Donald. But I'm telling 594 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: you what, if they're not sold on him and some 595 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: team is, Donald seems to be the plumb there. Um. 596 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: You know, one thought on the Wentz trade, the Eagles 597 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: are over the cap by twenty million, and then they 598 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: have to eat thirty four million dollars in dead cap 599 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: on this guy. I would tell you, I don't know 600 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: how it is that you you move Carson Wentz and 601 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: absorbed that if you're Philadelphia, except I didn't think that 602 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: the Rams would get anybody to take Golf's contract. So 603 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: God knows. There are ways to get it done. There 604 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: are ways to create cap room, and there are guys 605 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: that are looking at, you know, the second, third, fourth 606 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: year of the deal and where they can bail out. 607 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: The quarterback carousel is fascinating and it's so different from 608 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: the League of even five or seven years ago. Teams 609 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: are getting their guy or they're moving them out and 610 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: finding another one fast. Yes, that casel is gonna keep 611 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: on spinning in quickly. Before we end this show, to 612 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson and what Brett Farb said about him last week, John, 613 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: I know it went viral and social media that he said, 614 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: play out that contract. That's your job. You play where 615 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: your team is. But it's been extremely publicized. How unhappy 616 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson? Is me the millennial that I am? 617 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, how can you keep this guy in Houston? John? 618 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: What are you thinking? Well? And from the Texas point, 619 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: you keep in Houston because he is under contract. And 620 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: if I'm the Texans, I would be shocked if these 621 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: conversations aren't going like this. How can we get in 622 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: front of this guy the new people at the Texans 623 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: and convince him that what was before is not what's now. 624 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hard topic, but that's what the 625 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: coach has to do. Um. Yeah, the old school, crotchety 626 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: guy in Mischlin tends to agree with far you signed 627 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: your contract. You know, I don't like the trend of 628 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: players forcing their way out. I think they're well paid 629 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: all of that, But at the same time, I sort 630 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: of get that, you know, it's a new era. Players 631 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: are going to force their way out. I think my 632 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: gut tells me that somehow the Texans are going to 633 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: get it right with this guy. It's a different situation 634 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: than with Jalen Ramsey with the Jaguars a few years back, 635 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: because the situation involves a quarterback. You've bend when it's 636 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: your quarterback. It's tougher to bend when it's a non 637 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: quarterback position. So I think somehow they bend over backwards 638 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: to get it right with Deshaun Watson. That's just my 639 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: gut at this point. You know, you bend the knee 640 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: so to speak, to use an old term from Game 641 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: of Thrones, and you go with your hat in your hand, 642 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: even though you're giving him hundred and forty five million dollars, 643 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: but you're saying, look, you know, we we have not 644 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: done things the right way here. We've had some organizational issues. 645 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: We've had some roster issues. You know, the former coach 646 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: traded away our you know, our best offensive weapon outside 647 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: of you. You do whatever it takes. You know, you 648 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: mentioned John that it's different than Jayalen. You bet, because 649 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: even though Jalens very highly paid, the cornerback is the 650 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: pardon me, the quarterback is the cornerstone of your franchise 651 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: and of your salary cap. What the Texans did with 652 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: that deal was set up their salary cap for the 653 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: next four or five years to be able to put 654 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: a team around him. You can't just willy nearly move 655 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: that away. Um, I'd be stunned if he was traded. 656 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: Go look at his numbers. He had the best season 657 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: of his career, UM on a team that wasn't very good, 658 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: and we watched him twice. I watched him here just 659 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, wiggle his hips and invade defenders for a 660 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: first down that kept drives alive. Um, no chance I 661 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: think he gets traded. I just can't see the Texans 662 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: doing it. Not with a quarterback that's one of the 663 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: top five in the league, no way. One thing we 664 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: do know is Houston is absolutely getting some phone calls 665 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: to say the least about Deshaun Watson, not as I 666 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: would hang up on him. I would hang up on 667 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: and it would get It would get back to David 668 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: Will get his agent, who by the way, is Jalen 669 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: Ramsey's agent that may have worked in Jacksonville. That's not 670 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: going to work in Houston. I would restore my image 671 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: as a franchise by not looking like a clown show 672 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: and getting rid of the best quarterback they've ever had, 673 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: and you never know, it could be the best quarterback 674 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: they'll ever have. No chance. I'd hang up, that would 675 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: get back to his agent real quick. Block the number, 676 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: change the phone number, whatever you gotta do. And that 677 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: is just the start of the quarterback carousel and the 678 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: start of our offseason show, Jack's Drive Time. Right here 679 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Facebook, someone's calling me. Apparently it's time to 680 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: go not now, mother, Thanks for tuning in and Jaguars Drivetime. 681 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: We'll see you right here next week Tuesday on Jaguars 682 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: dot Com. Call Rose Hello,