1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: First Day to follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Evan is on the phone today for our first dight 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Ruby. So in 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: a few minutes we'll call her and see if she'll 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him 7 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: a second day. But first, Evan, how long has it, 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Vinceince you heard from Ruby? 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 3: It's been about four days? 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: Okay, that's too bad. Yeah, have you hit her up 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: a bunch in that time? 12 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: I did try a couple of times. Yeah, I don't 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 3: want to over do it, but reached out and definitely 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 3: got nothing back. 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Okay, And you feel like that's weird, Like you feel 16 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: like four days is a long time? Did not hear 17 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: from her? 18 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're kind of hitting it off, so it is 19 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: out of the ordinary. 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: Well, tell us about your date. 21 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: Well, Ruby and I went to rooftop Bar, and you know, 22 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: I had the best view of the city. It was 23 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: it was her idea. Actually it was super cool. You know, 24 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: I can't really beat it. For our first days, this 25 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: great great place, grabed drinks, shared a charcoterie board, and 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: you know our conversation was just really easy, natural. The 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: vibe was laid back and plenty of kind of flirty moments. 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: She's hilarious, you know, We're making each other laugh the 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: whole night, and they were just sparked, you know, the 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: kind you can't bake. We ended up taking a walk 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: after and because they were both a little buzzed, and 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: before we said good night, there are a few kisses 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: and yeah, you know, it's just a kind of date 34 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: you never want to stop. 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 2: Okay, well, why do you think you're hitting? Ghosted? 36 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: Then? 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: Honestly really confused. You know, we were texting NonStop for 38 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 3: two days after so things are you know, they felt 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: promising and then nothing, it just stopped. 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: So wait, you went on the date and you ended 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: up hearing from her after the date. 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, after the date for about two days and then 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: it stopped. 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: Right, could be something you texted? 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean I don't think it was. 46 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: I did text her a pick of me, like in 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: the bathroom with a towel on and the tease, like 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: I thought it would be harmless. 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: Okay, is that the last time you were from her? 50 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: I believe so. 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Id sripp And if I got ghosted after that. 52 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: She was teasing me about having abs, so I just 53 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: decided to show her. You know, I don't know, maybe 54 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: it was too much. It wasn't like a pick or anything. 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: You know, do you have abs? Or was joking around 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: me and like check out mine, but you don't have them? 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: You know I have abs? Yeah, I mean I just 58 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: wanted to prove myself. 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Okay, that could be it. So was a selfie? 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if. 61 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: You stop talking to you right after that, then that 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: probably it probably has something to do with that. 63 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I don't think it was 64 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: that bad or racy or anything. 65 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: But what did you say when you send the picture 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: of yourself in a towel? 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: Nothing much, just that I think I've put like a 68 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: little blurb like you know here proved for something like 69 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: along those lines. 70 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: Okay, well, we'll see if we can help you out 71 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: with then then. I mean, it is kind of strange 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: that she was stop talking to you right after that, 73 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: so that might be the reason. But we'll play a 74 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: song come back and see if we can get you 75 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: a second date in your first Day follow up next 76 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: in the middle of today's First DA follow up, if 77 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: you're just joining us. Evan is on the phone and 78 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: he's getting ghosted by Ruby. So we're about to call 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: her and see if she tell us why she's ghosting 80 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: him and hopefully get him a second date. But first, Evan, 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: why don't you break down your date for us one 82 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: more time. 83 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. So we had a lot of great moments on 84 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: our date, bark flew. Everything was perfect. So we had 85 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: a connection. And you know, two days after the date, 86 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: I've not heard from her. 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: And the last thing that you sent her was, let's 88 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: not forget this part, a picture of yourself in the 89 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: bathroom and a towel. 90 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: I did send her my ab. 91 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: All right, well, are you ready to see if that's 92 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: the reason you're getting ghosted? 93 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. 94 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. I'm gonna call her right now, 95 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: him aspeaking to Ruby. Please, Hey Ruby, how are you? 96 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: This is a radio show, it's called the Jubil Show. 97 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: Hi Ruby. My name is Nina. 98 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Victoria and I'm Jebel. 99 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: How are you. 100 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: Okay? I'm I'm good. 101 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: Have you ever listened to the show before? 102 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: I have? 103 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 2: Nope? Thank you? Well, what if I told you that 104 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: you were the star of a first eight follow up 105 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: right now? Oh god, yeah, we got an email about 106 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: you from somebody that you're ghosting, and they don't know why. 107 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: You know who emails. 108 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it's probably Evan. 109 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: You're a very smart Evan told us about your date, 110 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: said that he really liked you, thought you guys had 111 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: an awesome time, but you texted her a little while after, 112 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: and then you just ghosted him, and he wants to 113 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: know what's up? Would you mind telling us? 114 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: I mean, like, look, I really I thought Evan was 115 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 4: great and we had an amazing time. But then after 116 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 4: my date, my friend showed me something and it just 117 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 4: it kind of killed the vibe for me. 118 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: Okay, what was it? 119 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 5: Okay, So I tested my friend the picture of Evan 120 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 5: when we were on the base because she wanted me 121 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 5: what to look like. And then the next night she 122 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 5: sends me a picture of him with some other girl, 123 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 5: like literally the night after we went on the date, 124 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 5: and then she was at another bar and they were 125 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 5: making out. 126 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you've got it wrong, Evan. He's 127 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: actually on the phone and wants to talk to you. 128 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I mean like, yeah, okay, I knew, 129 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: I guess I knew this was com. 130 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: Oh man, hi, hi, h Look, you've got it all wrong. 131 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 5: It's not no, no, even you were literally in the picture. 132 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 5: I mean, it's not hard to recognize someone when you 133 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 5: were just right there. 134 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: You know. Oh okay, Yeah it happened, but it's not 135 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 3: what you think. Like she's she's someone I've been cooking 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: up with for a while, and I was I was 137 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: going to tell her it was over because I wanted 138 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: to focus on you that night, and I just I 139 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: didn't get to it yet. 140 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: So you were, oh with someone else right after your 141 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: day making out with her? 142 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 5: Technically, yeah, Agan, you were just with me and then 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 5: you just go and make out with someone else. 144 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I understand people date multiple people, but it 145 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: just it felt wrong to me. 146 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: I swear, I swear, I'm done with her. I'm not 147 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: seeing anyone else. 148 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: I like you. 149 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: I was going to tell her that the next day, 150 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: but it was like, it wasn't like that anymore. Like 151 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: you're the one that I want to date. 152 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: Did you tell her that? 153 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: I told her? 154 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't want to see a picture of 155 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: the dude that I just want to date with, mix 156 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: like messing around with somebody else. Again, Like she said, 157 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: I get people are dating other people, but if I 158 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: don't know, I wouldn't feel good about that either. I 159 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: just would have too many questions. 160 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, like are you just saying that like you want 161 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: to date me? Or like did you hook up with 162 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: her that night? You know that's just powerful to me? 163 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: Will you hook up at her? Yeah? But it was 164 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: it was just like a last like last brown type 165 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: of thing. I swear I told her about you at 166 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: that point, and that was the last time you. 167 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: Told her after you hooked up. 168 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: You're hooked up when. 169 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: You're after you told her about me? 170 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: Like seriously, No, I told her about you after I 171 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: hooked up. 172 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: With herful, Yeah that's true. 173 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 5: Okay, so you hooked up with her after you told 174 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: her about me? Like seriously, no, I hooked up with 175 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 5: her and then I told her about you. It's but 176 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 5: that's because things it's so different with you, Like we've 177 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 5: been on one date. It's not like I cheated on 178 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: you or anything. I was just I was trying to 179 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 5: do the right thing. I mean, it would have been 180 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 5: better if you told her before and didn't hook up. 181 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I get that, but it was, you know, it 182 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 3: was just kind of desperate and dead. I didn't get 183 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: to see you, and you know, I was just trying 184 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: to break things off and it didn't go as smoothly 185 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: as I hoped they would. 186 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: I mean, if we were to date and you didn't 187 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: see me, you can't hook up with other people. 188 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to do that. I swear. 189 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: It's kind of tricky because he kind of does have 190 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: a point. He is trying to do the right thing, 191 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: like he didn't cheat on anybody, and she's out of 192 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: the picture. 193 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: Now, Ruby, would you like to go on a second 194 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 2: date with Evan? We'll pay for it. 195 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 4: I mean, Evan, are there any other people I need 196 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: to know about? 197 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, well yes, but we're going to text 198 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: them and let them know I'm not available via text. 199 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 3: I'm not going to meet up with them. I will 200 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: show you the text. 201 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: What do you think, Ruby, it sounds like serious? 202 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like honestly, we did just go in 203 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 5: one date and it was like a really really good date. 204 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 5: But I swear to God, Evan, if any of my 205 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 5: friends send me more pictures of you out with other women, 206 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 5: you're gonna wish that I was just ghosting you. 207 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: It will be very large promise you'll never see that again. 208 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to to ever meet that side of 209 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: you again. 210 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: Okay, sure, all right, we'll go out again. 211 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: Are you happy? 212 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, you're welcome. 213 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: First date,