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Speaker 2: Big bags and skinny bags, I love and everything in between.
Speaker 3: Bitch lost a couple of pounds. You see how you
Speaker 3: talk about us.
Speaker 1: Bitch just lose a couple of pounds and they start
Speaker 1: talking crazy about big backs. Okay, right, my stomach stuff flat, though,
Speaker 1: that's all that matters, Bitch. My whole body could be
Speaker 1: big as long as my fucking stomach. I literally be
Speaker 1: talking to my stomach, bitch.
Speaker 3: No, I listen.
Speaker 2: I had to shrink my back a little bit. It
Speaker 2: was getting out of control. Man, you shoulders.
Speaker 1: I got I got a new tattoo, like under my arm,
Speaker 1: kind like on that side, Like I'm like, I got
Speaker 1: this tattoo.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that was laying down. It was nice
Speaker 3: and flat.
Speaker 2: When you stand up, its folded. I can't even see
Speaker 2: that motherfucker when you stand up.
Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta tattoo look all his hell, bitch,
Speaker 4: you gotta feel it like if you open up that
Speaker 4: flat right there, it's a butterfly, not your butterfly.
Speaker 1: In a cocoon right on my backfat.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, I'm gonna get life right there.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little keiloid right under that tattoo,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get a tattoo on top of that.
Speaker 3: Ben Serio, Ma, your fucking business. How was your weekend? Goodness,
Speaker 3: that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: My weekend, y'all. I went to Napoi. I told y'all
Speaker 2: was going to Napo. I went to Napa, y'all, y'all
Speaker 2: gotta go to Napa Valley is so beautiful, it's so peaceful.
Speaker 3: It's very romantic.
Speaker 2: I went my sister and her wife, so it wasn't
Speaker 2: as romantic for me, but I did enjoy myself. I
Speaker 2: really invited myself on their romantic trip, honestly, but it
Speaker 2: was a vibe. We went on the train, it was
Speaker 2: like a four hour train ride, and we stopped at
Speaker 2: different vineyards and we tasted like twelve different wines over
Speaker 2: that time, and baby, by the time it was over,
Speaker 2: I was drunk ass at fuck. I wasn't gonna say it,
Speaker 2: but yeah, drunk as fuck. Me and my sister and
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, like them bitches could drink
Speaker 2: copious amounts of wine.
Speaker 3: I had to stop. I had to stop. It was
Speaker 3: over for me.
Speaker 2: But that was my weekend. I had a good time.
Speaker 2: Oh and then I shot to La. After I left Napa,
Speaker 2: hung out in La and then I went to church.
Speaker 2: I went to Sarah Jake's church, one church, the Potter's
Speaker 2: House in La and I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: M h, yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2: So that was my weekend. I saw a nigga here,
Speaker 2: nigga there. You know what I'm saying, nothing to crazy and.
Speaker 3: Then sprinkle, sprinkling right one of my friends. He has
Speaker 3: a So Sunday I met.
Speaker 2: I met a woman in the lobby of the airbnb
Speaker 2: that I was staying in, and uh, she's a pr person.
Speaker 2: We got to talking about my podcast and things like that,
Speaker 2: and I invited her to church with me.
Speaker 3: So we went to church together, and.
Speaker 2: Then she invited me to a restaurant called Gris and
Speaker 2: Waffles in La and it was run by a black
Speaker 2: woman and that food was so good. But I was
Speaker 2: supposed to go hang out with one of my friends
Speaker 2: and he was like, hit me when you get out
Speaker 2: of church, let's go get some food. And I didn't
Speaker 2: hit him because I ended up going with her. And
Speaker 2: he messaged me that he pulled out his plane and
Speaker 2: we were gonna fly to Catalina and go to have
Speaker 2: brunch in Catalina and you ignored and I ignored that, nigga,
Speaker 2: I missed my private plane experience.
Speaker 3: The gris and waffles was good. Wait, you know it
Speaker 3: wasn't that good? So next time, what about your weekend?
Speaker 3: I ain't do nothing. You really lying?
Speaker 1: I do not be lying, like literally, Okay, I am
Speaker 1: preparing to go to New Zealand, right, so I gotta say.
Speaker 3: My coins, bitch. The plane plane ticket is over two
Speaker 3: thousand dollars itself. That's gonna be so much.
Speaker 1: No, it's gonna be really nice. So that's when I
Speaker 1: have my fun. I have lots of pictures and stories
Speaker 1: for you guys. Okay, yeah, I'm doing much, bitch. I
Speaker 1: went to Costco this weekend, got me some gas tissue.
Speaker 3: Detergent. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, Sea bass I love a good slice of sea bass,
Speaker 1: sea bass. They have the best sea bass at Costco.
Speaker 3: Okay, that sound fair, y'all.
Speaker 1: Let's get into stupid internet news for this week. So
Speaker 1: Beyonce girl.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry here she is with her country music. Did
Speaker 3: you listen like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I listen. I listened. I listened. I listened again.
Speaker 2: My allegiance to Beyonce. You know, I like a couple
Speaker 2: of the songs on there. I'm not a big country
Speaker 2: music girl. I like country, but I'm not like a
Speaker 2: huge country music person. So I feel like someone it's
Speaker 2: gonna have to grow on me, you know, it's gonna
Speaker 2: have to grow on me, and I have to like
Speaker 2: get in my country bag because it's not it's not.
Speaker 1: That doesn't really sound country though. Does it really sound
Speaker 1: like country music to you?
Speaker 2: The music sounds like country music. She don't sound country
Speaker 2: over the music to me.
Speaker 1: Right, So especially that song she talk about twerking, Well,
Speaker 1: she's how does song go get down?
Speaker 3: Get on that, get on that thing, and some ship
Speaker 3: like that. I like Jolene.
Speaker 1: I like Jolene so that you know, the white folks
Speaker 1: are there up in an uproar right now about her
Speaker 1: having remade Dolly Parton's Jolene song because Joelene was begging.
Speaker 1: I mean lly Dolly Parton was begging Jolene in the
Speaker 1: not the fuck with her man, I just take her Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Beyonce is like, bitch, don't come over here with that bullshit.
Speaker 1: I'll beat you up because I'll beat your ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit different. Nice little twist on
Speaker 1: the song, girl. I don't know which one it was.
Speaker 3: It's right, Tyrann. I like that one.
Speaker 2: I like Tyron, that's what Dolly Parton in it. And
Speaker 2: I like two Hands to Heaven. I love that one because.
Speaker 3: It was a guy on the sound. That's all made
Speaker 3: me manifest my husband.
Speaker 1: All I know is she was talking about twerking and
Speaker 1: getting little on the song. It did not sound a
Speaker 1: country song by any means. It's twenty seven damn songs
Speaker 1: on that damn album, man or twenty seven entries.
Speaker 3: It's a lot. I just know it. And Beyonce, please
Speaker 3: don't drop no tour in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: I cannot afford. I'm still paying off I see I
Speaker 2: put the tickets on uh Clarina, and I'm still paying
Speaker 2: for the last bitch, don't come out here with no bullshit.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to move this year. Don't start Beyonce.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have an artist in our generation
Speaker 1: that I just love so much, like I like Beyonce.
Speaker 1: With Beyonce, I think I love Rihanna more, Right, bitch,
Speaker 1: I like the older artists whit in Houston, don't nobody,
Speaker 1: but you can't go to her. Yeah, I've been to
Speaker 1: a Beyonce concert, but I'm definitely not about to finance
Speaker 1: Beyonce tickets.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I can't figure my finance no more. That's it.
Speaker 3: I went to a Whitning Houston concert last year though.
Speaker 1: Indeed, So Beyonce didn't win an award this past weekend
Speaker 1: at the iHeart Awards.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know they have. We don't get invited
Speaker 3: to ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I like the album. It's cool, it's cool,
Speaker 1: it's different. I feel like, yeah, put your feet on
Speaker 1: the people neck. We take over all genres.
Speaker 2: I mean, because its ours to be getting with in
Speaker 2: the first place. Let's talk about it. Even the term
Speaker 2: boy was the term used to describe the black men
Speaker 2: who wrangle cows, and it was derogatory. You know, the
Speaker 2: white men were called cow hands. Black men were called
Speaker 2: cowboys because it was meant to degrade them.
Speaker 1: So and Cowboy Carters is actually was a group people
Speaker 1: who sun cowboy music country music. Excuse me sun country
Speaker 1: music or to me, written out of history. You would
Speaker 1: have never known about the Cowboy Carters if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for Beyonce. I did like that she included some of
Speaker 1: the current country artists, like that girl who has that
Speaker 1: song Buckle Bunny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's dope, She's dope. Yeah. So they're on a
Speaker 3: couple of songs too. I think it's not black people
Speaker 3: coming black country music this year. Yeah, we're coming ship,
Speaker 3: but they come in. I bet you they will. I
Speaker 3: bet you they will.
Speaker 2: And Kay Michelle she said she got a bouquet of
Speaker 2: flowers from Beyonce. Uh, you know, celebrating her, you know,
Speaker 2: experiencing the country realm. So Beyonce is so humble and dope.
Speaker 2: I love her so much because she got every right
Speaker 2: to be a nasty bitch if she wanted to.
Speaker 3: I think she is. She just appears not to be.
Speaker 3: But let's go on to the next stuff. What else
Speaker 3: do you got going on the stupid internet news shot?
Speaker 3: Aside from Diddy's stupid ass. Meghan Fox collapsed back at critics.
Speaker 5: So uh.
Speaker 2: There was an interview with Megan Fox and they were
Speaker 2: talking about her drinking her soulmate's blood, a few drops
Speaker 2: of Machine Gun Kelly's blood, and she compared it to
Speaker 2: being blood sisters as a kid and like cutting yourself
Speaker 2: and like smashing your hands together. When I was a
Speaker 2: little kid, we did spit sisters and we in our
Speaker 2: hands and smack them together.
Speaker 6: And like we're best friends, let's go blaying the mud.
Speaker 2: But I'm a country girl and I grew up on
Speaker 2: like a dirt road where we cought bugs and worms
Speaker 2: and made mud pies and shit like that.
Speaker 3: So his sisters was normal. That is that a thing?
Speaker 1: And I've actually done the blood shit like not drinking
Speaker 1: someone's blood, right, but like you poke your finger, your
Speaker 1: homegirl poke their finger and you.
Speaker 6: Touch them to gout and rub it together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's splitting DNA.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know, you know, I don't see why
Speaker 1: taking them people of vampires anyway.
Speaker 2: I don't understand why you would need to do that
Speaker 2: with Machine Gun Kelly though. I mean, okay, soul mates,
Speaker 2: but drinking their blood is giving very much vampire in Brooklyn,
Speaker 2: and I just don't have time for it.
Speaker 3: So now he's your sire, that's what I'm hearing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: now he owns you.
Speaker 1: Now he like you know, like on the movies when
Speaker 1: the vampire bites somebody, then they give them their blood
Speaker 1: right to turn them, to make them like now I
Speaker 1: own you, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't with that shit.
Speaker 2: And now I've heard of this in the South where
Speaker 2: you tall take your your minstrel and put it in
Speaker 2: spaghetti and feed it to your man and he'll never
Speaker 2: leave you alone.
Speaker 3: That's why people be talking about women from Charleston. It's
Speaker 3: a lie. I've never done no shit like that. I
Speaker 3: would never do that. First of all, how you getting
Speaker 3: the blood? How'd you getting it? You got holding the
Speaker 3: cup under your koochie and waiting for something to drop,
Speaker 3: bringing out your tampon in there.
Speaker 2: Oh, that is fucking disgusting. I don't I don't love
Speaker 2: nobody that much to be in there squeezing tampa juice, Yo, nigga,
Speaker 2: Just go if you want to go, just go.
Speaker 1: It's pretty disgusting though, But I don't know, But I'm
Speaker 1: done something. What about spit people spitting each other's mouths.
Speaker 1: What is the difference? It's all DNA. Well what about
Speaker 1: why is that so weird? What about uh?
Speaker 2: The ritual of communion that is representation of the blood
Speaker 2: of Jesus and drinking the blood.
Speaker 3: Girl, we ain't get.
Speaker 1: These Christians around it while well sorry because I know
Speaker 1: you are as well, but I don't want to get
Speaker 1: people all riled up.
Speaker 3: But that is my goal too.
Speaker 1: When somebody started talking about witchcraft and vodoo and voodoo because.
Speaker 3: They don't realize that they are.
Speaker 1: The difference between like somebody an actual practitioner is that
Speaker 1: we are consciously aware of what we're doing.
Speaker 3: You're being used by this thing. It's crazy word. You
Speaker 3: are being.
Speaker 1: Used to participate in this thing and you don't know
Speaker 1: what you're participating in because it is a form of witchcraft.
Speaker 1: If you are practicing commune and you're eating a fleshmtual.
Speaker 5: To me.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, meanwhile, let me eat his skin like y'all tripping?
Speaker 3: Y'all are really I don't do that type of ship
Speaker 3: the fun anyway, do you kid?
Speaker 2: Somebody said she got nappy hair and.
Speaker 1: The girl, first of all, here's my thing. So I
Speaker 1: have been not dragged because the bitch could never write.
Speaker 3: But it's men mainly.
Speaker 1: So you know that guy that has that comedic store
Speaker 1: in Columbia, I forgot his name, is an old man,
Speaker 1: but he has like a pretty large following on Instagram,
Speaker 1: so he posts like a lot of esoteric shit, and
Speaker 1: so he's selling hair oil in his store, right, so
Speaker 1: of course he's bashing the weaves. So he was posting
Speaker 1: like a series of videos of how they cutting the
Speaker 1: Indian women's hair off and shit like that over in India.
Speaker 1: And I commented, and I said, those women are sacrificing
Speaker 1: their hairs, their hair to the gods. And I put
Speaker 1: the black one emoji with the crown on because there
Speaker 1: is sacrifice in their hair. And who the fuck do
Speaker 1: you see walking around with and on girl of men
Speaker 1: was an uproar, calling me an elitist, said I got
Speaker 1: a god complex and everything else, So be it.
Speaker 3: But it's just the truth.
Speaker 1: When you say things sometimes in the simple ast way,
Speaker 1: people be fucking mad as hell. So while y'all trying
Speaker 1: to bash us about wearing and hair, weave hair goes
Speaker 1: Doja Cat wearing her natural hair right, and y'all still
Speaker 1: talking shit about that, So which one do y'all want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't satisfy. I'm done trying to satisfy other
Speaker 2: people with especially my esthetic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the nerve of you niggas who have
Speaker 1: been talking about weaves since whatever. Meanwhile, half the damn
Speaker 1: men on the internet got a beard and a lace
Speaker 1: front now, so y'all been talking shit about how we
Speaker 1: look and our aesthetic for the longest. Meanwhile, y'all want
Speaker 1: it to look like y'all mama the whole time. But
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna talk about that.
Speaker 3: But just don't listen.
Speaker 2: I don't knock it because some of these niggas look
Speaker 2: ten times better with their lace wig on.
Speaker 3: They do their hair better. They do do the hair better.
Speaker 2: But let me tell you what you need to stop
Speaker 2: is that black paint. Though I don't like that, I
Speaker 2: don't like that.
Speaker 3: You dating a nigga with a lace front, low weave.
Speaker 3: I'll put it.
Speaker 2: I'll put that shit on my nigga, right. I don't
Speaker 2: got a problem with it. Long as it look good,
Speaker 2: it looks natural, and you look handsome and feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: I will glue them. I will glue that bundle hair
Speaker 2: on your.
Speaker 3: Head, that cool hair. It's so weird.
Speaker 6: Though.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we know that women wear weave. I think
Speaker 1: the men that wear the weave it's just a little
Speaker 1: bit more discreet.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: So when you see the nigga without his weave, I
Speaker 1: know a nigga he finally stopped wearing his weave. It
Speaker 1: probably got too expensive and he just went back to
Speaker 1: his ball head, which he looks really nice with.
Speaker 3: Just go to Turkey. Turkey, you can go get your
Speaker 3: hair installed in Turkey. It'd be about.
Speaker 1: Twenty K, but you can get it. I got a
Speaker 1: homeboy who did that too. He got his whole hairline back.
Speaker 3: I got a stay with you away bit.
Speaker 1: Just be on the plane coming from the dr with
Speaker 1: the ass wrapped up. It'd be a plane full of niggas,
Speaker 1: but they had wrapped up.
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 2: It's so funny because she had just got back from
Speaker 2: the surgery and she had to have like this compression
Speaker 2: band around her head or whatever. And we was talking
Speaker 2: shit to each other on the folder. I was like,
Speaker 2: blat you over there looking like Frankenstein talking shit.
Speaker 3: She got so mad at me. She got so mad.
Speaker 3: I just joke.
Speaker 1: May be mad when your joke hit hit, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: oh uh yeah. So the ship with Dojha cats so
Speaker 1: it says. The singer recently teased her return with a
Speaker 1: single I can't even m a s C.
Speaker 3: What is that girl? Answer A jes z er child
Speaker 3: that might be an.
Speaker 1: Right, whose cover art featured a close up of her
Speaker 1: blonde curls Now, the singer has taken to Instagram Live
Speaker 1: due to some insulting comments made about the appearance of
Speaker 1: her natural hair texture. On March Daria Doojah told Viers
Speaker 1: that she was noticing a consistent pattern of commenters saying
Speaker 1: her hair look like sheep and pubes and carpet wool,
Speaker 1: popcorn ship like that. But you know the thing, the
Speaker 1: thing for me is that what does the Bible say
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ look like?
Speaker 3: Yep, all right, hair.
Speaker 1: And white people y'all, y'all asses is not from Africa.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't have hair a wall.
Speaker 3: And it's it's a call.
Speaker 1: And I went to a comments it's a combination of
Speaker 1: black people and white people on there talking crazy about this.
Speaker 1: Goddamn here that's what your God looked like?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: Nicks Nick.
Speaker 2: Child Tyler the creator shows Gerard Carmichael.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do he really love Tyler?
Speaker 1: Like I don't know that dude is funny, man, He
Speaker 1: like regular funny, like somebody who really don't realize how
Speaker 1: funny they are.
Speaker 3: All right, so, y'all, y'all didn't see this.
Speaker 2: In the premiere episode of Gerard Carmichael's reality show, The Comedia,
Speaker 2: confessed to falling for the one longtime friend Tyler, the
Speaker 2: creator y'all. In the self titled show, Carmichael recall expressing
Speaker 2: his new found romantic feelings to the rapper over text
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, but the feelings weren't mutual. In
Speaker 2: a six second voice note response, Tyler laughed off his
Speaker 2: calling the comedian a stupid bitch. Can you imagine expressing
Speaker 2: your love for someone in there and getting called a
Speaker 2: stupid bitch?
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish niggas would do that upfront like
Speaker 1: that then, that way, I don't have to spend a
Speaker 1: year right still trying to see what we where we are,
Speaker 1: what we're doing.
Speaker 3: Just call me a stupid bitch right now. I'm not
Speaker 3: mad at that that I ever called me a stupid bitch?
Speaker 3: Your life? So mad at them? Is it an adjective?
Speaker 3: Averb y'all be so mad at them?
Speaker 6: Magic?
Speaker 3: Stupid is the adjective is the bitch. That's the now.
Speaker 3: We like bad bitch, but you don't want to be
Speaker 3: a stupid bitch. Facts. It's all about context. God damn,
Speaker 3: adjectives matter. Yeah, absolutely. I like titled Tyler the Creator.
Speaker 3: I do want to know, like is he gay though
Speaker 3: sexual orientation? I don't to know is he like is
Speaker 3: lol Na's ex Willie gay? Girl? Who knows? Who really gay?
Speaker 3: Everything is just fluid from here on out. I just feel.
Speaker 1: Like, like Taylor said, Taylor said, she just say fluid.
Speaker 1: She said fluent, like he's fluent fluently gay?
Speaker 3: Right, but you know what gay?
Speaker 2: I saw this comedian over the weekend, and god damn,
Speaker 2: I can't think of his name, but he said that
Speaker 2: everybody's gay. It's not like a light switch on and off.
Speaker 2: It's more like a dimmer switch. Like you know, it's
Speaker 2: like a spectrum, like you could be the rock or
Speaker 2: you could be little nas ICs and it's a bunch
Speaker 2: of in between.
Speaker 3: So that's what fluid is. Then, Yeah, that we're all fluid.
Speaker 3: I'm not fluid. You the light switch?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like at this at this age.
Speaker 1: I would have done everything I want to do by
Speaker 1: this point, So I'm who I am, so I think fluid.
Speaker 1: It's like all purpose, like all purpose of self rising flower.
Speaker 3: This is how some people are. They just be doing whatever.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel like I want it's too dangerous out here.
Speaker 1: Pick a fucking side.
Speaker 3: Pick a side. That's how I feel about sexuality. Pick
Speaker 3: a side. Well, there's so many different scary. There's so
Speaker 3: many different sides. Though. That shit is fucking scary. It's
Speaker 3: a what's a sixty sided shape? Octa hexagon? Bitch, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm scared. B is goodness, y'all. I'm settling down, okay, y'all.
Speaker 3: So I have you know.
Speaker 2: I've been doing here for a minute, and I my
Speaker 2: my clients range from anywhere from twelve to sixty five, right,
Speaker 2: I've done women of all ages. And I reached out
Speaker 2: to some of the ladies that I knew that actually
Speaker 2: went to Freekneak, and I asked them.
Speaker 3: For a free nick story. So we're gonna listen to
Speaker 3: them and we're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 5: Okay, So this had to be nineteen ninety. My first
Speaker 5: time going to Freaknik was a great experience, but a
Speaker 5: scary one. I remember we were stuck in traffic, traffic,
Speaker 5: was backed up. We were sitting for like thirty minutes,
Speaker 5: but it was so many people, people walking through the traffic,
Speaker 5: and I remember the guys that we were riding with
Speaker 5: got in an argument with some other guys. I don't
Speaker 5: even remember what the argument was about, but one of
Speaker 5: the others dudes just walked up to the car and
Speaker 5: pulled the gun on us. That was like the scariest
Speaker 5: moment of my life. I saw my life flash before
Speaker 5: my eyes and that was my first Freaknik. I did
Speaker 5: return after that, again a great experience, but that was
Speaker 5: a scary one for me.
Speaker 3: Not you almost get killed and then come back.
Speaker 1: Motherfucking six flags six Flags of Atlanta.
Speaker 2: But imagine like you're just sitting in traffic and people
Speaker 2: are just walking through the cars, hopping on top of cars.
Speaker 2: It's a lot going on. But you don't hear a
Speaker 2: lot of stories of people getting shot and killed at
Speaker 2: freak Meat, you know, you know, like there might have
Speaker 2: been like some violence and some like rape, but shootouts
Speaker 2: that's the thing of now.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I don't even remember hearing any stories about anybody
Speaker 1: like getting jumped or beat down, like.
Speaker 3: How people be beating people.
Speaker 1: To death at events now yeah, okay, let's see next collar.
Speaker 5: Freak Meat ninety four, Me and some friends decided to
Speaker 5: see what freak meat was all about. We weren't of age.
Speaker 5: We lied to our parents told him that we had
Speaker 5: to babysit overnight, which wasn't unusual. So we drove down
Speaker 5: to Atlanta with our shorter shorts on and our highest
Speaker 5: plumy tails. God to Atlanta, got stuck in traffic, but
Speaker 5: we had a ball dancing, jumping in and out of cars.
Speaker 6: Well we happened.
Speaker 5: I happened to jump into this guy's car and he
Speaker 5: was really nice and back then, you know, we played
Speaker 5: a little dangerous. So we hung out all day long
Speaker 5: and into the night. So me and my friends were tired.
Speaker 5: They told us we can come back to their room
Speaker 5: to take a nap. So of course we got back
Speaker 5: to the room. No nap was taken. Me and the
Speaker 5: guy that I was with. You know, we had been
Speaker 5: talking all day, so I felt like his little girlfriend
Speaker 5: and we did things. But when it came down to
Speaker 5: doing the thing, this man was huge. I had never
Speaker 5: seen anything like that before, so he could see the
Speaker 5: fear in my eyes. By this time, my mom was
Speaker 5: blowing my pager up because she hadn't heard from me
Speaker 5: all day and I was supposed to check in. So
Speaker 5: I started crying because I knew I was in trouble.
Speaker 5: He said, what you're crying for? I said, my mom
Speaker 5: is paging me. He said, well, yo, mom, how old
Speaker 5: are you? I said, I'm seventeen. This man like he
Speaker 5: saw a ghost. I told him I'll be eighteen at
Speaker 5: the end of summer. He kicked me and my friend
Speaker 5: out of the minute we were. We headed home. Got home,
Speaker 5: of course, got in trouble, but I had the time
Speaker 5: of my life, and the year after that and the
Speaker 5: years until Freak Meat Stop. Me and guy hooked up
Speaker 5: every Freak Meek. What a time to be alive.
Speaker 3: Yo, Not you was under age out there about to
Speaker 3: see that man in jail.
Speaker 2: He did the right thing by getting your ass about there.
Speaker 2: I see you next year.
Speaker 1: That's just look, those are some smart people at Freak Meek.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fucking nobody's saying. That's when black
Speaker 1: people was at their greatest, not your dick so big.
Speaker 1: I started crying, but I went home for the I
Speaker 1: went home for the summon practice a little bit, got
Speaker 1: on that ship for the next few years. I hear
Speaker 1: that they was in a Freaknik relationship, Like, did you
Speaker 1: realize that the transcript said freaking meat.
Speaker 3: Because that's what it was. That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 3: It was a freaking meat age. We got a guest on.
Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all saw the Freaknek documentary on Hulu,
Speaker 2: but I felt like the documentary was like very I mean,
Speaker 2: it was good, but I felt like they left out
Speaker 2: some juice because they want to protect the images of
Speaker 2: the people who participated.
Speaker 3: Well, we got a guess on today.
Speaker 2: Jay smiles, y'all, and she is telling us about Freaknik
Speaker 2: from her personal experiences, y'all.
Speaker 3: So, y'all stay tuned. It's gonna be real good, y'all.
Speaker 1: Today's guest been outside because outside been open. You probably
Speaker 1: caught her funny commentary regarding Freaknik on Instagram. She's a
Speaker 1: Howard University graduate who participated in the Freaknik Summer Games
Speaker 1: of the nineties. She's a fellow podcaster who was reminding
Speaker 1: her audience to never forget to laugh with their show
Speaker 1: Parenting Up, a podcast creative for caregivers of Alzheimer's patients.
Speaker 3: Y'all, welcome. Jay smiles. We talked, Dad, what's up.
Speaker 1: Look, I didn't realize you were a comedian, like for real,
Speaker 1: for real, going on?
Speaker 3: You're on tour now?
Speaker 6: Because I know you.
Speaker 3: You're traveling right now?
Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely So the tour, the East Coast tour finished
Speaker 6: up at the top of the year. The West Coast
Speaker 6: tour is going to pick up in the middle of
Speaker 6: the spring. So that's ramping up right now as we speak,
Speaker 6: and we're getting the dates finalized. So I'll do the
Speaker 6: Southwest and Cali, making my way up to Washington and
Speaker 6: Seattle and all that, so everybody stay tuned for those dates.
Speaker 3: How long have you been doing stand up comedy? Because
Speaker 3: I mean you're you're a Howard University in Stanford graduate.
Speaker 3: How did this come about?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Right, it's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: That is not something.
Speaker 5: I tell you what.
Speaker 6: I didn't go to school for comedy. And if my
Speaker 6: grandfather was still alive, he would be like, where they
Speaker 6: do that at? And why why the hell are you
Speaker 6: out there making a fool of yourself. I ain't send
Speaker 6: you to college for that. So Howard and Stanford. I
Speaker 6: went to Howard for mechanical engineering and I worked for
Speaker 6: Ford and had a dandy time. As they would say
Speaker 6: back in the day, what was over. I was in
Speaker 6: Detroit working for Ford when the American Automotive thing, when
Speaker 6: we were banging and we were beating Toyota, So that
Speaker 6: was fun. Worked over in Spain, and then I went
Speaker 6: to as a mechanical engineer. I went to Stanford Product Design.
Speaker 6: I loved it for just let made toothbrushes. Did y'all
Speaker 6: know people actually designed toothbrushes?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: I know normally people just go to the store and
Speaker 6: just grab a toothbrush whatever might look good with their bathroom.
Speaker 6: Like what colored toothbrushes do y'all have?
Speaker 3: Like the ergon mix of it all?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: An ergona and the bristle, Like we get down into
Speaker 6: the bristols like point oh one versus point oh oh two,
Speaker 6: and you girl good, said y'all, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 6: People are making millions of dollars on the diameter of
Speaker 6: the bristl.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a.
Speaker 2: Big one because some of these bitches think their breastink
Speaker 2: they need to be diamon.
Speaker 6: Yeah, people talking about Alfiicia your hair fall down people,
Speaker 6: gun was falling out to y'all. Real talk.
Speaker 2: So so you went from like making two brushes and
Speaker 2: then you was like, fuck that, I'm about to make
Speaker 2: him laugh?
Speaker 3: How did that happen?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, Well there was a pause where I was
Speaker 6: a lawyer working with U. This is Johnny Cocker had
Speaker 6: so ship.
Speaker 3: So you hold on, hold on. You went from twoth
Speaker 3: brushes to a lawyer, to a comedian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to a hairstyleas that's right, to the drug dealer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of that, okay.
Speaker 6: Some sprakers, and then I was a vegan cookie baker,
Speaker 6: so I really was a lawyer. My dad started the
Speaker 6: Cockran firm with Johnny Cochran, and there was a point
Speaker 6: where I was about to take over some stuff and
Speaker 6: do some stuff. But then Johnny decided to die, and
Speaker 6: I was like, why do you want to do that
Speaker 6: while I'm in law school. You could have told me
Speaker 6: so I could have not go to law school. Anyway.
Speaker 6: That was that, and then my daddy decided he wanted
Speaker 6: to die. I was like, dude, what for real, that's
Speaker 6: not cute?
Speaker 3: So oh wow that was traumatic.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was dad. My dad died. When
Speaker 6: he died, it made my mom. My mom and my
Speaker 6: dad were I knew they were close, you know how
Speaker 6: they talked about folks get being together, and they together
Speaker 6: too long and one died the other one gonna die.
Speaker 6: Basically Dad on the couch. Why he and my mom
Speaker 6: were watching a football game, you know, and with their
Speaker 6: ninety days, my mom had.
Speaker 3: He was watching the Cowboys, wasn't he, No.
Speaker 6: You hate you hate them? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I do. I'm sorry you like.
Speaker 2: I don't hate them, I just hate their fans.
Speaker 6: He hated them too. He's a Giant fan, but he
Speaker 6: Blucky Cowboys, Hazey Cowboys, the Giants and the Falcons. Do
Speaker 6: you like the falcons anybody? No, I just don't like
Speaker 6: the falcons. They keep looking.
Speaker 3: So you were saying your mom, they were watching the football.
Speaker 6: In the football game, and uh, my dad was just like, yes,
Speaker 6: I think that's enough for my time here on earth.
Speaker 6: I think that's about it. Uh and I'm out as sink,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. His transitions were always poor
Speaker 6: and uh that what was too? Yeah, he ain't had no.
Speaker 6: I was like, yo, bro, this was that was really
Speaker 6: not cool. But good thing for my dad is he
Speaker 6: always said, baby, I just want to fucking drop dead.
Speaker 6: That was his shit and he did so. He was good.
Speaker 6: He was happy. It was kind of it sucked for
Speaker 6: me and my mom. Fast forward though, literally like within
Speaker 6: ninety days, my mom went from being went from being
Speaker 6: really sharp and very intelligent and running her own business.
Speaker 6: She's absolutely a wee talk bad kind of chick. And
Speaker 6: my dad supported that in her and in me. And
Speaker 6: she was like, if my dude is gone, I don't
Speaker 6: really know what daity is. Should I eat grass? And
Speaker 6: should I sleep in the car? You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Am I supposed to wear shoes on my hand? This
Speaker 6: chick just was her out. And so she had Alzheimer's
Speaker 6: and needed brain surgery like within three or four months.
Speaker 6: And that's when I became a caregiver. So I stopped
Speaker 6: doing law and engineering and everything overnight to take care
Speaker 6: of her. And that shit was hard. It wasn't fun.
Speaker 6: I started making really poor decisions. A lot of it
Speaker 6: involved Remy Martin seventeen thirty eight. I think I bought
Speaker 6: more of they shit for about three years. I helped
Speaker 6: their stock crisis, for sure. It was me. It was
Speaker 6: me and Puffy and them girls.
Speaker 3: I got shit. I just gotta disclaimery. If you got
Speaker 3: dick like that, I wanted Okay, just put it out there.
Speaker 3: Made me lose my shit in ninety days. Nigga, that's
Speaker 3: a nigga. I want all right, go ahead, I'm.
Speaker 6: Sorry, listen, listen. I don't want it. Yeah. So it
Speaker 6: was Rinby Martin seventeen thirty eight, Real talk, a lot
Speaker 6: of sex with random dudes. I was like, So, I
Speaker 6: was like, okay, so kanyak random cock. I was like,
Speaker 6: oh shit, I'm about this close to cocaine. I probably
Speaker 6: need to pull up right. This is not a good look.
Speaker 6: My doctor was like, yo, Jay, you try to die
Speaker 6: before your mama. I was like, well, that's stupid. I'm
Speaker 6: an only child. And I was like, I'm really not
Speaker 6: trying to what damn doc, You could have gave it
Speaker 6: to me a little little mold honey or sugar some shit.
Speaker 6: And that's when I said, Okay, I gotta find something
Speaker 6: to ease out some of this stress, right, so I
Speaker 6: can cope with life a little bit better. And that's
Speaker 6: how I fell into comedy. I didn't know I was
Speaker 6: going to fall in love with it and actually make
Speaker 6: a career of it, which led into stand up in
Speaker 6: the podcast, which is what I'm doing now. Both of
Speaker 6: those are full time. But this is where the hell
Speaker 6: we are. I've been a caregter for twelve years and
Speaker 6: I just made nine years as a stand up comedian.
Speaker 3: Congratulations to you on that, man.
Speaker 2: You know what it's I find that most of the
Speaker 2: comedians that I hear about experience some trauma and that
Speaker 2: sent them to comedy. Like it really is a coping
Speaker 2: mechanism for a lot of comedians, you know, for themselves.
Speaker 3: They make people laugh to heal themselves. Yes, so that's dope.
Speaker 2: So all right, you have this series called freak Neek Tales. Yes,
Speaker 2: shit's fucking hilarious. So we wanted to get into that
Speaker 2: because you know, that freak new Hulu documentary came out
Speaker 2: and I was so excited. I couldn't wait to see
Speaker 2: everybody Mama and Aunties that I knew on their but
Speaker 2: I didn't get to see nobody. They kind of like
Speaker 2: definitely gave us the PG version. They wanted to keep
Speaker 2: everybody who had careers now in their careers. They really
Speaker 2: protected everybody who was at Freakneek.
Speaker 3: But everybody was scared.
Speaker 1: Because online when they when people first heard that the
Speaker 1: Freakneek documentary was coming out, you had lawyers doctors, mamas,
Speaker 1: pastors coming out like you know, it was no it
Speaker 1: was no internet, no cell phones back then. Why the
Speaker 1: fuck y'all trying to out us now? So everybody was
Speaker 1: scared as fuck.
Speaker 2: So all right, tell us about all right, your first freaknek,
Speaker 2: how you decided you was going, how you heard about it,
Speaker 2: and what happened when you got there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, now that's a lot. Okay, I heard about it,
Speaker 6: how I knew I was going. Okay. First thing is,
Speaker 6: road tripping in the nineties was like absolutely a necessary
Speaker 6: thing to do. Everybody did it. You were going road
Speaker 6: trips somewhere to do something anyway. So when Freaknick became
Speaker 6: the thing, it was no big deal to say, all right,
Speaker 6: this is what we're about to do in ninety I
Speaker 6: think I'm pretty sure. In ninety two, I was a
Speaker 6: new Delta, so road tripping, and I'm originally I went
Speaker 6: to Howard, but I'm originally from Alabama. So now you know,
Speaker 6: freak Nicks in at atl and I was born in Atlanta,
Speaker 6: but I grew up in Alabama. So I'm like, I'm
Speaker 6: about to go home and got this nail your own
Speaker 6: weddy dudes, at what party? I hope I make it
Speaker 6: back to class, right, And so it was like, I'm
Speaker 6: about to come out on these foods, and they're not
Speaker 6: ready for this because now I'm wrong wrong. I left
Speaker 6: the South a girl, a little girl, and now I'm
Speaker 6: about to come back down here. How popping, hid your husbands,
Speaker 6: hid your kids, because I'm about to be in these streets.
Speaker 6: And so the idea was they are ready for me.
Speaker 6: Let me go because now I got some DC and
Speaker 6: me some go go. I not know house music, I've
Speaker 6: been you know, dropping it, load off the little loop
Speaker 6: stuff because I grew up on that, and it was
Speaker 6: what better thing could you do for spring break? Then
Speaker 6: go find everybody else that went to an HBCU or
Speaker 6: maybe went to a PWI and they wish they went
Speaker 6: to an HBCU. And we about to descend on it, right.
Speaker 6: And you heard about it with flyers and word of mouth.
Speaker 6: But that's how you heard everything in the nineties. That's
Speaker 6: how you heard around the new music that was about
Speaker 6: to come out. That's how you heard about what clothes
Speaker 6: were cool. I mean, word of mouth was everything. And flyers,
Speaker 6: street teams, street teams with all over the world meeting
Speaker 6: the country putting flyers up on light posts and bus stops,
Speaker 6: and they were like two colors. They were black and
Speaker 6: white or red and black, like whatever color the paper was.
Speaker 6: And then just like somebody had written in black marker
Speaker 6: black exactly.
Speaker 1: Niggas as manual as a motherfucker manual fucking exactly.
Speaker 6: And you know, you had friends who went to the
Speaker 6: various with the schools at whatever city and they were like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 6: come on down, you got a place to stay, or
Speaker 6: once you get here, just tell us, let me know
Speaker 6: when you get into the city. And that's what's gonna be.
Speaker 6: What's up right, And so you've heard about it through
Speaker 6: word of mouth, and you were like, I'm about to
Speaker 6: I'm about to be down there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So so like you that's about to say, you ain't
Speaker 2: like three homegirls powdered to a cutlass like what happened?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So who was a cartographer? Because who was reading the map?
Speaker 3: Because y'all ain't have no cell phones? A map quests?
Speaker 3: So I the hell y'all knew where to go?
Speaker 6: Not? Yeah? So what the best part about it too
Speaker 6: was even playing in the road trip. So you had
Speaker 6: a couple of things you could do. First is you
Speaker 6: could ask your daddy or your mama, Hey, how you
Speaker 6: get to Atlanta from d c ask one of your professors. Hey,
Speaker 6: so listen, you were originally from Atlanta, right you? Like
Speaker 6: you literally are lightweight, just asking real adults because you
Speaker 6: ain't a real doult. You like nineteen you playing, you
Speaker 6: barely you playing. You can vote and you could go
Speaker 6: shoot a gun and somebody in a war, but you
Speaker 6: don't know what you're doing. You ain't paying no kind
Speaker 6: of taxes. You are really fucking up your whole life
Speaker 6: kind of a little bit. Your credit is getting trashed.
Speaker 6: It's a whole mess doing. Is anybody else a real dolt? You? Like, hey,
Speaker 6: sodw Hey, so how you which way is Atlanta? You
Speaker 6: really are just asking random ass adults whatever you see it,
Speaker 6: like in class or whatever. And you can talk to
Speaker 6: your mom like, hey, so mama, Auntie so and so Atlanta? Right,
Speaker 6: so how do you? How do you get which highway
Speaker 6: gets to Atlanta? Like literally, that's how you just kind
Speaker 6: of lightweight, just asking little shit like that. And then
Speaker 6: Triple A was the fucking bomb because anybody who had
Speaker 6: Triple A, your daddy, your grandmama, anybody, you could just
Speaker 6: have their number, and they usually gave us their number
Speaker 6: because they knew you never know where your child is
Speaker 6: gonna end up, so just give them the triple A number.
Speaker 6: So if they got a flat tire and they.
Speaker 3: Somewhere with there, my mama shit to this day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So you had the number and you could call
Speaker 6: in and tell them, Hey, I'm going from DC to Atlanta.
Speaker 6: I need a trip tech.
Speaker 5: Girl.
Speaker 6: They would sending to you in the fucking mail. It
Speaker 6: looked as thick as a damn encyclopedia. It was pages
Speaker 6: and pages and pages and shit if you did it
Speaker 6: far enough in advance, or they would just tell you
Speaker 6: over the phone, you write that shit down, Okay, So
Speaker 6: take Exit twelve, get Old ninety five, drive three hundred miles,
Speaker 6: then take exit and you're right, okay, I'm sorry. Excuse me, ma'am.
Speaker 6: Could you say that over again? My pen ran out.
Speaker 2: A cryptic interesting Damn a bitch like me would have
Speaker 2: been lost. I would have ended up in Dallas trying
Speaker 2: to get to at Lana me.
Speaker 6: Look, you know you get up there. You forgot the
Speaker 6: second page. So then you just pull over, go to
Speaker 6: the gas station and ask some random ass man at
Speaker 6: the Texico. Hey, I'm trying to go there Atlanta. Am
Speaker 6: I in the right direction? Am I on the right highway? No? Baby,
Speaker 6: you had it. Baby, you had it to Savannah. Okay,
Speaker 6: what you need to do is get back old, go past,
Speaker 6: go past those cows and pass that big water tower
Speaker 6: about twelve miles. Make you turn.
Speaker 1: So what I'm hearing y'all was determined, determined to get
Speaker 1: y'all heart asses to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: When we see the cows turn left, like that's crazy,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have made it.
Speaker 3: I probably would have because that was just what you
Speaker 3: had to do. You know. That was the way. Let
Speaker 3: me before map questing all them.
Speaker 6: Things, let me tell you how determined we were. One
Speaker 6: of my girls, her man just bought her a new car.
Speaker 6: He graduated before she did, and so he was trying
Speaker 6: to make sure that she ain't find nothing new. Okay,
Speaker 6: before she before before they got to get you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So they graduated, he graduates before she
Speaker 6: buy him a Look, he buys her a new car.
Speaker 6: She ain't, No, she need to break the car in
Speaker 6: before she got on the highway. Baby girl gets on
Speaker 6: the highway just like the damn car breaks down somewhere
Speaker 6: in d Damn she leaves that fucking car on the
Speaker 6: side of the road, towse that car to the toes,
Speaker 6: that car to the damn dealership, the local dealership get
Speaker 6: a rental car.
Speaker 3: To the their car. I'm trying to see about this
Speaker 3: down here in Atlanta.
Speaker 6: A man that brought me the car, You right, I'm saying.
Speaker 6: She went on to Atlanta to the Freaknick her Man.
Speaker 6: Next time she talked to him the next day, He's like, okay, baby,
Speaker 6: did you get back to d C, saying, she said, DC.
Speaker 7: Ain't nobody I've had.
Speaker 3: We went in a car, right, like what you're talking about? Yeah,
Speaker 3: we didn't even what you talking about?
Speaker 6: It eat? Then't nobody. Just get to Atlanta. Everybody ain't
Speaker 6: gonna be fine. Just I can get there. One time.
Speaker 6: I remember times to uh, you know you literally riding
Speaker 6: down ninety five holding up pieces of paper to the window. Hey,
Speaker 6: where y'all going? Dudes going down like Atlanta? Us too,
Speaker 6: us too.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 6: That's our pronoun us. Is the pronoun us too? Us
Speaker 6: to meet you on Peachtree? Okay, twelve o'clock, nigga.
Speaker 2: So Okay, you made it to your first freak nig,
Speaker 2: what did you do? Like, did y'all see in traffic
Speaker 2: once y'all got to Atlanta, Like I seen hear a
Speaker 2: lot of stories about bad traffic.
Speaker 3: We weren't there, so we're trying to get, We're trying
Speaker 3: to get, trying to live, Like, yeah, that's what we're trying.
Speaker 6: I got you, I got you. So yes, it was
Speaker 6: always traffic, but it didn't feel bad. I'm gonna just
Speaker 6: tell you that that that whole idea of the traffic
Speaker 6: being bad and being negative, that didn't happen until kind
Speaker 6: of after the Olympics, Like the Olympics changed the flavor.
Speaker 6: So I'm not gonna talk about that till a little
Speaker 6: bit later. I'm just talking about the first couple of
Speaker 6: years that I went and traffic didn't matter like it did.
Speaker 6: You didn't feel like you were stuck in traffic because
Speaker 6: it was all love. People literally just rolled down their windows.
Speaker 6: You were playing the music whatever, fast ass like sixty
Speaker 6: nine sixty nine Boys or T. L. Brown, right, dudey Brown,
Speaker 6: all of that, all of that, and you literally could
Speaker 6: put your car in park. Nobody was stealing. You could
Speaker 6: put your car in park and had the damn music
Speaker 6: still playing, and you could go stand on a dude's car.
Speaker 6: You know, right now, you can't even touch a nigga's
Speaker 6: door knob okay without it wanting to cuts.
Speaker 3: You out car.
Speaker 2: You all kind of you could go stand on his car,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and on top of his car,
Speaker 2: top of the car, and he's like.
Speaker 6: Right, shorty, yeah, absolutely absolutely in the middle of the street,
Speaker 6: people passing out full people passing out liquor, people kissing
Speaker 6: and hugging and loving all each other literally like just
Speaker 6: for that song. And then after that song went, that
Speaker 6: was the end of that love affair with that man.
Speaker 6: That was it. Then you you know, you keep walking
Speaker 6: down the street to the next car and the next
Speaker 6: song you don't I don't know his name, you don't
Speaker 6: know my name. Ain't nobody trying to exchange numbers or names.
Speaker 6: You don't know where nobody lived, where they're from, that's
Speaker 6: for And ain't nobody trying to su where y'all and
Speaker 6: trying to ask nobody exchange numbers.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying, oh wait, y'all didn't have numbers like that.
Speaker 6: You ain't have to exchange numbers. Never but I'm saying
Speaker 6: just because you just because I was kissing you, just
Speaker 6: because I kissed you, did not mean you were gonna
Speaker 6: get my number in my name, especially if it was
Speaker 6: early in the day. If it was early, if the
Speaker 6: sun was out and we would dance, that's too early.
Speaker 6: Numbers got exchanged in the dark, like somebody. If it's
Speaker 6: nighttime and we on Pea Street and we party, and
Speaker 6: maybe it's time because you know, at dark times, people
Speaker 6: getting chose. You know what I'm saying, it's time. We
Speaker 6: were making decisions for the night, where we staying, who
Speaker 6: were staying with right the room. I mean some people
Speaker 6: had winter bagos. Folks was ready to winter bagos and
Speaker 6: driving down. Yeah, people were taking me like y'all was rich.
Speaker 1: In hell back then. No, we talked about nineteen and
Speaker 1: twenty year olds. Yeah, but about just any niggas in
Speaker 1: the argument.
Speaker 6: It was where they shipped they money though, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, like you did might not be able
Speaker 6: to eat for the rest of the semester, but you
Speaker 6: didn't really care because.
Speaker 3: I got to that freaky Yeah. Well, okay, so y'all
Speaker 3: y'all didn't did y'all? Did y'all have cell phone.
Speaker 6: Though not one, nor no pai so pages pages on
Speaker 6: our here baby, we had quarters, so that's the number
Speaker 6: to pay phones, yes, which is why you didn't really
Speaker 6: need to exchange telephone numbers and all of that. With
Speaker 6: too many people. You're like, listen, listen. Just whoever you
Speaker 6: were went and around that meant some. By the time
Speaker 6: night was falling, you were like, okay, because this was
Speaker 6: right here, might be worth something for the night. Whoever
Speaker 6: you were playing with what the during the day, because
Speaker 6: you ain't got for so many courts. You know how
Speaker 6: hard it was to keep up with a quarter.
Speaker 7: Because I got okay, one of them is to call
Speaker 7: the dudes that I decided I like today, and the
Speaker 7: other one is to call my girls to be like, wait,
Speaker 7: somebody come get me because this didn't work out.
Speaker 6: You need two quarters by the end of every night.
Speaker 6: Sometimes we because you ain't have enough room, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Because because what if your girl got chosen,
Speaker 6: you ain't get chosen sometimes and you be like, I
Speaker 6: don't want to be with his friend. Okay, okay, but
Speaker 6: you gotta suck it up. If your girl like his friend.
Speaker 6: You were like, damn, okay, all right, I'm gonna take
Speaker 6: one for the team, but I'm not gonna be with
Speaker 6: his The friend is ugly. Okay, I'm not gonna meet
Speaker 6: with him, but I'm gonna just hang right outside the
Speaker 6: room in the hallway to make sure you good says,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So if you if I
Speaker 6: hear something fucky coming out the room, I'm gonna check
Speaker 6: check on you. But I'm not going in there with
Speaker 6: his boy. Fuck that.
Speaker 2: So would it be like choosing a different nigga every night,
Speaker 2: like you might pop some couchie every night with somebody different.
Speaker 6: You could that was available to you if you would like.
Speaker 6: That was available to you if you would like.
Speaker 3: Hmm, and you want a horror so and you.
Speaker 6: Were not a whore. See, that's that's that's what's so.
Speaker 6: That's some time I tell you a j That's what
Speaker 6: I'm trying to tell you about freaking Nick being it
Speaker 6: before what kinda existed in the Marvel universe. That's what's
Speaker 6: so beautiful about it, because we had this one set
Speaker 6: of days where everyone who showed up in Atlanta you
Speaker 6: knew what it was. You understood the assignment, and you
Speaker 6: knew it was like this. It was a privilege it
Speaker 6: was we were proud and it was a privilege to
Speaker 6: be there, and it was a protected space, right. It
Speaker 6: was like, all right, we about to do this. We're
Speaker 6: gonna let our hair down, We're gonna party, We're gonna
Speaker 6: get it, We're gonna get it in and then we're
Speaker 6: gonna go back to wherever we live. I ain't gonna
Speaker 6: see you no mo and it ain't nobody gonna talk
Speaker 6: about this shit no more. And if I see you,
Speaker 6: like next year or something with my husband or my
Speaker 6: mama and the mall, ain't nobody saying nothing. Ain't nobody
Speaker 6: will be like, oh, bitch, I saw you with Joey
Speaker 6: uh mouthed by your ankles on top of a pickup truck.
Speaker 6: No nobody talking about it?
Speaker 3: Right, Oh what a time to be alive. That is
Speaker 3: women wholes.
Speaker 1: It's probably definitely some new age, new age shit, which
Speaker 1: is why a lot of the women were concerned. And
Speaker 1: it feels like it seems like on the internet people
Speaker 1: were only bashing women that in this day time, people
Speaker 1: were only bashing the women at freakning. But I definitely
Speaker 1: saw somebody looking Kouchi through jeans on a documentary and
Speaker 1: nobody talking nobody really talked about the men and what
Speaker 1: they did a Freakning.
Speaker 6: The men were absolutely out of control. First of all,
Speaker 6: we weren't out of control on ourself.
Speaker 8: Because in the nineties there was not a public, open
Speaker 8: culture of shall I say, a freedom of.
Speaker 3: Bisexual, homosexual or just.
Speaker 6: Freedom homosexuality, bisexuality and definitely transgender. You didn't see that
Speaker 6: in Freaknik. For the most part, Freaknik was what you
Speaker 6: saw on display in most of the presentation appeared to
Speaker 6: be heterosexual. I'm not saying that it was all heterosexual,
Speaker 6: because listen, I wasn't with everybody. I had a hard
Speaker 6: time keeper of my own self, Okay, I didn't always
Speaker 6: know what the hell out so but what you saw
Speaker 6: for the most part appeared to be heterosexual, right, and
Speaker 6: it appeared to be college people. Now, everybody might not
Speaker 6: be in college, but there was certainly college age. And
Speaker 6: the dudes were absolutely out of control. They had most
Speaker 6: of them didn't had their shirt on. Okay, a whole
Speaker 6: lot of them had their like cut off shorts and
Speaker 6: stuff that you know now they be like the hooja
Speaker 6: daddy shorts and stuff like that, and they were popping it.
Speaker 6: That's what I want also, everybody know these dudes were
Speaker 6: not walking around looking all damn cool and just doing
Speaker 6: a little slight bopping a two step. These dudes were
Speaker 6: putting their shoulder and they back into it. They were
Speaker 6: taking it down, they were scrubbing it. They had their
Speaker 6: knees in, they back in it. They were popping they
Speaker 6: dicks as hard as we was copping out, you hear me,
Speaker 6: because if you couldn't pop it back, we want to
Speaker 6: actually see that hip thrust.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, let me see that hip thrust he had back.
Speaker 6: Yes, had to be able to dance as uh energetically
Speaker 6: as we were, or we wasn't fooling with him. We
Speaker 6: were like what you you're not about to just watch
Speaker 6: me sweat and grunt and burn all these calories and
Speaker 6: you stand there like a tree. We wasn't following for
Speaker 6: that ship. Like no, no, everybody gonna have skin like now,
Speaker 6: like now, like everybody in this circle doing this monkey dance.
Speaker 3: The Matan calls.
Speaker 6: It was and they did it like they and it
Speaker 6: wasn't like I couldn't believe dude down there, poppa this
Speaker 6: ass like a chick. No, they listen, and the ones
Speaker 6: that could stay down there and popped it hard, would
Speaker 6: end up with chicks on both sides right, so some
Speaker 6: chick would be front and back right, And the longer
Speaker 6: his knees could keep him down there than the most
Speaker 6: chicks he got. And by the time he got up,
Speaker 6: chicks are like, so, now, bro, where you had it?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Because you like you got
Speaker 6: some stamina.
Speaker 2: It's a nigga at work right now rubbing his knees
Speaker 2: because of that shit you're talking about.
Speaker 3: It's a nigga somewhere right now rubbing his ranney. Like
Speaker 3: God damn, I need to be replacement.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: Can you tell, like a story of something that happened,
Speaker 3: something that was significant, anything like that memory that was
Speaker 3: like when you're old, you're gonna be like, damn that year,
Speaker 3: that moment that freak meek God damn.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5: I have several.
Speaker 3: I mean, is there any that you're willing to share?
Speaker 6: Yes? Yes, absolutely absolutely. I have a couple. Okay, I'm
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with two. The first one is we
Speaker 6: uh me and friends. Well the beautiful thing get it together.
Speaker 3: Now I'm trying to start. Is I know if aunties
Speaker 3: be lying, y'all go ahead. Not clean that ship up
Speaker 3: in your mind.
Speaker 6: You see it all on my face. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 6: so now so then what happened was then a hummed
Speaker 6: you know, criminal a herming bird came saw Jesus, So
Speaker 6: what with school too? That I want to say is
Speaker 6: how much you didn't have to just stick with the
Speaker 6: people you came with. And that's about what this story
Speaker 6: is about to be about. It's like you. You you
Speaker 6: came there usually with your girlfriends, or if you were
Speaker 6: a dude, you came with with your with your dudes,
Speaker 6: but you didn't have to just stick with them. Like
Speaker 6: you you normally ended up kind of around a certain
Speaker 6: block because you couldn't go too much further than that, right,
Speaker 6: or you ended up add a certain party or a
Speaker 6: certain part of ped my part, and you did not
Speaker 6: travel much further than that that particular day, just because
Speaker 6: the crowd was so massive. But they didn't have to
Speaker 6: be like, oh shit, I don't know nobody else and
Speaker 6: I ain't really fucking with heard because we from Detroit,
Speaker 6: not La. There were there were no turf wars at Freaknik.
Speaker 6: Didn't nobody give a shit. Okay Howard and spell When
Speaker 6: in Hampton, everybody got loved, you know, Detroit and New York.
Speaker 6: Everybody got loved is all good like that. So so
Speaker 6: I was always a little shall we say, chatty, all right,
Speaker 6: and I ain't had no problem telling the dude. He
Speaker 6: was fine and said what's up, bruh and all the
Speaker 6: good things. So I got lost it from my group.
Speaker 6: So the crowd was they kept going and I'm talking shit,
Speaker 6: and so then I'm with some dudes. And then I
Speaker 6: ain't had no money, i ain't had no phone, you know,
Speaker 6: So I'm just kind of out there. But this whole
Speaker 6: group of sisters from the West Coast just took me in.
Speaker 6: They started feeding me. I'm partying with these chicks all
Speaker 6: for the whole rest of the day. I don't know
Speaker 6: where none of my people are. And you gotta understand,
Speaker 6: ain't no damn cell phone. I can't even get on
Speaker 6: nobody else's Twitter and say, you know, meet me by
Speaker 6: the flag pole, no shit like that. I'm just with
Speaker 6: these folks, clowning with these dudes all fucking day and night.
Speaker 6: Do you hear me? And then randomly, as I'm just
Speaker 6: walking down the damn street, one of my girls are like, y'all, Jane,
Speaker 6: that's where you been? And I'm like, oh, y'all, how
Speaker 6: come I forgot? I was supposed to even be with them?
Speaker 3: My day went so good?
Speaker 6: Real shit, I wasn't even looking at them no more?
Speaker 6: Do you hear me? I'm walking down the street with
Speaker 6: my new friends and these new dudes, and I'm just
Speaker 6: them to the hotel. Do you hear me? My girls
Speaker 6: are like, y'all even, and I'm like, oh shit, right, y'all,
Speaker 6: what's up? Yeah, y'all come over here and me. They're
Speaker 6: life many and where you going? I was like, y'all, baby,
Speaker 6: be half. Y'all found me because I listen. I was listen.
Speaker 6: I weren't nobody even looking for y'all. Do you hear me?
Speaker 6: I wasn't looking for them. I wasn't scared, and I
Speaker 6: didn't care.
Speaker 3: All right. See, that's a different time.
Speaker 2: Like right now, you can't even do that and be
Speaker 2: safe because somebody might harm you, drug you, even the
Speaker 2: women you know.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like that? Agent?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I said, I did get drugged by a white
Speaker 6: girl in Europe, A white girl molleyed me.
Speaker 3: That was not a freaking not Molly Molly's you Molly.
Speaker 6: Girl. Yes, dam that's another whole podcast I and I
Speaker 6: wasn't ready because I said what she Molly herself, which
Speaker 6: is why I didn't know then what she was doing.
Speaker 6: She was like, hey, she was like, I had drank
Speaker 6: up all my drinks and so I'm out there doing
Speaker 6: all this ship. I'm in Croatia. This like this about
Speaker 6: before Kobe, Oh this.
Speaker 3: Ship, this happened to you. Yeah, I'm not. You got
Speaker 3: Molly last year night. You got Molly last year.
Speaker 6: That's why I steal over outside, been over town and
Speaker 6: should I do this? I do this? So I had
Speaker 6: finished my drinking and I said, She's like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: you're so much trying. What you know, I'm about to go,
Speaker 6: she said, why, I said, but the drinks are gone
Speaker 6: and I'm about to go to the next five. She said,
Speaker 6: oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god. She said, oh,
Speaker 6: get another one, Get another one. I've been drinking this
Speaker 6: da Da da and she's drinking all the same fucking
Speaker 6: kind of drink. So I'm like, yo, this hell of
Speaker 6: Then Molly herself and me.
Speaker 3: In one drink. Yes it was a she put it
Speaker 3: in your drink.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, it was a couple of black women from
Speaker 6: Damn America who saw the ship going down, praise all
Speaker 6: the Jesus and got my black mass and drug me
Speaker 6: away from her. And then I know it was Molly
Speaker 6: because the next day I felt fine do I mean
Speaker 6: like I was. I just threw everything. I threw everything up.
Speaker 6: But my I was just like what up? I'm all
Speaker 6: waking up doing toe touches. And they were like, bitch,
Speaker 6: you tried to run. You was romotion and walk on
Speaker 6: water like you. Jesus, you were like you anywhere?
Speaker 3: Yeah that I go down, So okay.
Speaker 6: The other way was this. Let me tell you all, okay,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do this in real fast. I hit on
Speaker 6: my fucking cousin.
Speaker 3: Fred, Oh Lord have mercy, and he hit on me back.
Speaker 3: Did you all right? Tell us the story?
Speaker 6: We didn't know it.
Speaker 3: Y'all didn't know. Y'all was kidding hold on the first
Speaker 3: second or third cousin.
Speaker 6: No, No, we knew we were cousins. That's how blue
Speaker 6: out we were.
Speaker 3: He's real, not you fuck your cousin at freaking No.
Speaker 6: I ain't say I funk went too far.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that, now, she said, And they hollered
Speaker 1: at each other, rumors and.
Speaker 6: See that you go there you go always do too much.
Speaker 6: So it was you know how I told you, Like,
Speaker 6: you know, you start out playing with everybody during the daytime,
Speaker 6: but boyt the night you guys start, you know, decided
Speaker 6: what you're gonna do. And we walking down Pea Street,
Speaker 6: me and my girls. We see a nice group. It's
Speaker 6: about four five of them. It was about four five
Speaker 6: of us. That's a nice matchup. So back then you
Speaker 6: don't even try to see does everybody like everybody we
Speaker 6: all the same height? Funck all that, it's the numbers match.
Speaker 6: So we headed toward each other and everybody just started
Speaker 6: flirting with somebody and it'll all work out. And so
Speaker 6: I see the all this one and I'm not tall,
Speaker 6: but my father was tall, like I'm about five to
Speaker 6: My mom was five two. My daddy was six too,
Speaker 6: So I like tall dudes. He tall and chocolate. I'm like,
Speaker 6: say less, I'll roll up on this dude and we
Speaker 6: just talking shit. But like, you know, we like this
Speaker 6: this him, this me, So we talk and shit. Look
Speaker 6: it looked like we about to have fight on the playground.
Speaker 6: We walking around each other. You know, I'm feeling on
Speaker 6: his booty, he feeling a little bit on me, like, what,
Speaker 6: so what to do? Showy, I'll throw a nigga, what
Speaker 6: you do?
Speaker 3: What you got?
Speaker 6: I mean, well, what you doing tonight? Nothing? You got
Speaker 6: somewhere to go? No way for me? You trying to
Speaker 6: eat or what what you're trying to eat? You know
Speaker 6: all this kind of shit. We talking shit, y'all. We
Speaker 6: rolling around each other talking that I kind of like
Speaker 6: came up just kind of like about his chest.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: So after we decide everybody think everybody is fine?
Speaker 7: Yo?
Speaker 6: Did I look up and he looked down, And when
Speaker 6: we lock eyes for the first time, we realized who
Speaker 6: the fuck we are? This is my whole cousin. Like,
Speaker 6: it's not like we've been talking so much shit walking
Speaker 6: down the street, like hey, nigga, hey, are you thinking?
Speaker 6: What you got?
Speaker 5: What you know?
Speaker 6: We do so much shit talking in a crowd. I
Speaker 6: never really looked at his face, was just looking at
Speaker 6: this body. And then we liked and I was like, like,
Speaker 6: I told my girls, I'm going home. I'm leaving right now.
Speaker 6: This is too much. Where you going I'm running down
Speaker 6: to They like, wait this, I'm going to church. I'm
Speaker 6: going to church right.
Speaker 3: Ship. She was about to hook up with your cousin.
Speaker 6: My mama is his Godmama, like I know him, like
Speaker 6: he ain't no way distant cousin. That's like this.
Speaker 3: I was like, shit, young, your cousin cousin and my girl,
Speaker 3: he's too cousin. Your cousin cousin know my.
Speaker 6: Real I mean, this is my blood fucking cousin. Like
Speaker 6: he come to my grandmama house with Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I was like, I still look at my brother staid,
Speaker 6: this is too much. There us all too much, all
Speaker 6: of this. I'm going on going home.
Speaker 3: I would have been like, let's switch. What do y'all
Speaker 3: switch with?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: So on the documentary on all the people in documentary
Speaker 1: and were saying that nineteen ninety four was the best freaknique.
Speaker 3: Yeah did you go in ninety four?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What you had on What you Want? Ninety four?
Speaker 1: Did you have on Kouchie cutters boy shorts.
Speaker 6: By shorts but not Guccie cutters, absolutely booty shorts and
Speaker 6: I normally I'm pretty sure I had on Doc Martins
Speaker 6: because I was rocking the boutas shorts in Doc Martins
Speaker 6: was was my ship? Right? Like I was like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 6: I want to see but you also I also wanted
Speaker 6: to be able to like walk, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: or like if you were in there in the grass,
Speaker 6: or if you were in the street, or if you
Speaker 6: jumped in and out of somebody's car. You know, you
Speaker 6: need some stability for your ankles. And I like shirts
Speaker 6: that had something kind of funny on it or something
Speaker 6: that was kind of like a something to talk about, right,
Speaker 6: like either like a black Bart Simpsons shirt that we
Speaker 6: had black. We had Bart Simpsons shirts where Barn had
Speaker 6: dreadlocks and shit like that. So somewhere that would be
Speaker 6: like oh sor I say, I see you, I'd be
Speaker 6: like what you see when you talk about like, you know,
Speaker 6: plain white ash shirt. I'm gonna give you a conversation piece, yo, man,
Speaker 6: Come on, baby, what your mama told you to sell me?
Speaker 3: What would you say made ninety four more special than
Speaker 3: the other years? Or do you agree with that?
Speaker 6: I do agree with the fact that ninety four was
Speaker 6: the best year. I think, uh, it was kind of
Speaker 6: a map. It was a combination of things. Number One,
Speaker 6: I think the word had really gotten out about like
Speaker 6: just word of mouth had traveled real good by then, right,
Speaker 6: and the Olympics hadn't happened, right, Like, you know, I
Speaker 6: think if the Olympics. Now, I'm happy that the Olympics
Speaker 6: came to Atlanta overall, but if the Olympics didn't happen
Speaker 6: in ninety six, I don't think ninety four would have
Speaker 6: been in the ES the best year. I think in
Speaker 6: ninety six, you know, I mean, I think every year
Speaker 6: would have continued.
Speaker 3: That was like the peak for Freaknink.
Speaker 6: Yeah, ninety four was the peak because of the Olympics.
Speaker 6: That's my personal opinion. But when the once Atlanta secured
Speaker 6: the Olympics, then the city changed the way they responded
Speaker 6: to Freaknik. Not that the Freaknik goers started to change
Speaker 6: what we wanted to do. When the city started to
Speaker 6: change how they allowed where we could go, then that
Speaker 6: changed the freedom we couldn't. We couldn't just kind of
Speaker 6: flow and meander and be it. You know, it made
Speaker 6: it way too restricted. I personally believed that the dynamics
Speaker 6: of Atlanta getting the Olympics made the city this Well, no,
Speaker 6: then that what made you stop going.
Speaker 9: I moved, I graduated, I graduated college, and I moved
Speaker 9: to Detroit because I was then an engineer for Ford and.
Speaker 6: Therefore sent me to Spain. Right, So it was a
Speaker 6: combination of I I was no longer uh, I wasn't
Speaker 6: even in the United States, and I heard that things
Speaker 6: were changing, and I was like, well, damn, they're not
Speaker 6: letting us kind of meander and mingle. That's that's what
Speaker 6: it was about, like the freaknik being. The destination was Atlanta,
Speaker 6: there was no address. The address was Atlanta, Georgia. You
Speaker 6: were not trying to I don't think I ever. I
Speaker 6: don't know that I ever made it to pee my part.
Speaker 6: I really was trying to remember. I don't ever remember
Speaker 6: actually putting my on peed my part brass. I don't
Speaker 6: think like I think I kind of saw. That's the
Speaker 6: part down the street, right, I see it. There's like
Speaker 6: two blocks away. I ain't never quite get there because
Speaker 6: because who cared. You didn't nobody I didn't care about,
Speaker 6: and you didn't care about who you saw. You didn't
Speaker 6: care if you made it to the official concert or
Speaker 6: the official party, that not that matter. And so I
Speaker 6: graduated from college from Howard in ninety four, and then,
Speaker 6: like I said, I moved to Detroit, and then Ford
Speaker 6: sent me to Spain. And so there's logistics. But then
Speaker 6: It's also that I heard how it was changing, and
Speaker 6: so that's what kind of made me stop. But I
Speaker 6: firmly believe if the city of Atlanta, and I'm not
Speaker 6: I understand as a businesswoman, and I mean I'm a
Speaker 6: very small businesswoman compared to the City of Atlanta, But
Speaker 6: as a businesswoman and an entrepreneur, I understand Atlanta had
Speaker 6: a decision to make You're about you're trying to play
Speaker 6: ball on an international level. Now, it was the first
Speaker 6: time Atlanta was given an international platform. And what you're
Speaker 6: gonna do? Right? Yeah? And so freakent coming April, and
Speaker 6: the Olympics are coming in the summer. What you're gonna do.
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: That was one of my questions as an adult. Now
Speaker 1: looking back, do you understand why Freaknik needed to be canceled?
Speaker 1: And aside from the Olympics and all that, just all
Speaker 1: the different reports of all the violence that was taking
Speaker 1: place out there after I think might have been after
Speaker 1: ninety four, maybe when.
Speaker 3: Who weren't going to college got ahold of it.
Speaker 6: So you got the dope.
Speaker 1: Boys coming, all the niggas coming up from Miami, the
Speaker 1: niggas forty years old coming to Roman coming.
Speaker 3: You know, so do you see now why it needed
Speaker 3: to be canceled.
Speaker 1: We're from South Carolina, so we got olaf Fiers weekend.
Speaker 3: Did you ever attend Demi? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think Freaknik could be successful today in Atlanta
Speaker 2: like it was in the nineties, No.
Speaker 6: Not the way it was the nineties. But I do
Speaker 6: believe that the spirit of freak Nick could be successful,
Speaker 6: Like you know, the spirit of freak Nick. Just meeting
Speaker 6: a HBCU spring break something done by somebody. I think
Speaker 6: that could be very successful. But what we did in
Speaker 6: the nineties was so organic. The coordinators of Freaknik didn't
Speaker 6: mean which which is what you see the documentary. They
Speaker 6: didn't mean for They didn't know it was going to
Speaker 6: morph into what it was, right. It's some things you
Speaker 6: gotta just starting, and then the people take it to
Speaker 6: what they wanted to be. You know, Freaknick. As you've
Speaker 6: seen the documentary, it was just it was hb It
Speaker 6: was the Au Center. So people at Mars Brown, Clark, Moorehouse,
Speaker 6: and Spelman who could not afford to go back home
Speaker 6: for spring break. They were from d C. And they
Speaker 6: decided we're going to have a.
Speaker 10: Picnic and we're just gonna hang out for a day
Speaker 10: or two just because we don't have nowhere else to go.
Speaker 10: We don't want to stay in the dorm all damn week,
Speaker 10: because everybody else went somewhere for spring break. Maybe they
Speaker 10: went to Bikers to Black Bikers Week, or maybe they
Speaker 10: went to Daytona and so, but eventually everybody said, well, shit,
Speaker 10: we now want to go to Freakentin if we want
Speaker 10: to be.
Speaker 6: In Atlanta and be together. And you know, I believe
Speaker 6: what happened was after Atlanta got the Olympics. Just it's
Speaker 6: kind of like what happens with super Bowl when people
Speaker 6: go to the super Bowl. Because of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 6: a whole lot of people who don't give a shit
Speaker 6: about football end up going to that city to do
Speaker 6: illegal or immoral things and to take advantage of people
Speaker 6: that might be young or weak or whatever. That's the
Speaker 6: same thing that happened, I believe after the Olympics. So
Speaker 6: after the Olympics, you just got people in Atlanta who
Speaker 6: are just trying to make that money on whoever, on
Speaker 6: anybody in Atlanta that might be weak or vulnerable. So
Speaker 6: they just hung around Atlanta. And so when Freaknick rolling around,
Speaker 6: they're like, oh, shit, you got all these young college kids,
Speaker 6: they have a really good time for a couple of days.
Speaker 6: They might be drunk, they might be high. Oh both.
Speaker 6: Let me go ahead, let me get this. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: try to do some sex trafficking. I'm gonna try to
Speaker 6: put some of these girls into the prostitution. Okay, what's
Speaker 6: the same thing that happens at NBA All Star Weekend
Speaker 6: or Mardi Gras. But why are you gonna try to
Speaker 6: act like it's different just because it's Freaknick. Whenever you
Speaker 6: get hundreds of thousands of young people, even at like right, well,
Speaker 6: when all the white kids go down of Fort Lauderdale,
Speaker 6: they're doing the same shit. They do the same stuff.
Speaker 6: They're trying to pluck young girls, they've put them into
Speaker 6: the system and go sell them out of the prostitution
Speaker 6: somewhere in Taiwan. But the problem was because because of
Speaker 6: the Olympics in Atlanta needed to look clean. You had
Speaker 6: to fix it, Benny, Benny, benny fast. So I'm not
Speaker 6: against them, say hey, rather than let freak Nick become
Speaker 6: totally negative, let's end it. Because it didn't have any parameters,
Speaker 6: like there was no one place to put it. There
Speaker 6: was no one place to take it because Freak Nick
Speaker 6: was a street party on all the streets of all
Speaker 6: of the Atlanta you know, So so what could so
Speaker 6: what can you do? I think for something like Freaknick
Speaker 6: to be successful, you really have to. It has to
Speaker 6: start organically from a pure place, the way the first
Speaker 6: one did.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But see now, even down in Miami, they're trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of Memorial Day weekend down there too, where
Speaker 1: black people tend to gravitate. You got all the locals like,
Speaker 1: don't come to Miami this memory of they weekend. They
Speaker 1: have like commercials about the shit.
Speaker 2: Now oh yeah, spring break too, don't come to Miami
Speaker 2: for spring break?
Speaker 3: Where are the kids to go? You know?
Speaker 2: Like is there anything black? Is there any black event
Speaker 2: for black college students?
Speaker 3: Right now? During spring?
Speaker 6: They shutting down Miami.
Speaker 3: Not really, not really, They have to wait for home coming.
Speaker 6: Why they shutting down Miami again?
Speaker 2: Damn, I should have been twenty the nineties. They just
Speaker 2: said they don't want them to come there no more.
Speaker 1: You know, because I mean people go to Miami, but
Speaker 1: then the locals they don't want those locals from Opa Laka,
Speaker 1: the Haitian niggas coming because the one time I went,
Speaker 1: I was like, Nah, never fuck again, because it don't
Speaker 1: even matter if you fully clothed or you're ass hanging out.
Speaker 1: A nigga is trying to put his hands on your
Speaker 1: anatomy and I don't go for that shit because I
Speaker 1: ain't come back for that.
Speaker 3: And it's bitch as that came for that.
Speaker 6: Like it's hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't care. I'm bitchous. I'm you ain't come
Speaker 3: for that ship. Shut up. I just be telling jokes.
Speaker 3: These be jokes. Please don't think you could motherfucking touch
Speaker 3: me out right getting shot.
Speaker 1: Do you think freaknik influenced today's sexy reds and all
Speaker 1: these people that the aunties because we you know, people
Speaker 1: might consider us aunties. We talked about how people are
Speaker 1: out here wilder now. But do you think like the environment,
Speaker 1: like a freaknik environment, that whole kind of influence what
Speaker 1: we see now because we're talking Uncle Luke, we're.
Speaker 3: Talking about Howard. Yes, I think, what do you think?
Speaker 6: I think it was a part of like the pebbles
Speaker 6: that just pushed forward women having more say so the
Speaker 6: whole we talk back now in a more but the
Speaker 6: front part like Freaknik before the Olympics. I like to
Speaker 6: kind of say the nineties, I mean free Nick from
Speaker 6: the eighties to like I'll even say ninety five just
Speaker 6: before the before the Olympics, because it showed that was
Speaker 6: kind of the beginning of where you really Before then
Speaker 6: you didn't see women as much having controlled or having
Speaker 6: something to say. But that was at the same time
Speaker 6: where Salt Pepper was then coming out with their videos,
Speaker 6: like you mentioned aDNA Howard or Quainn Latifa, So you
Speaker 6: had emc light. You had these artists that were our age,
Speaker 6: who yeah, who are exactly who were also saying things
Speaker 6: that that were letting the world know. We got something
Speaker 6: to say. We talked back, you know, we got something
Speaker 6: to say right now about current issues, either about who
Speaker 6: we're dating or the money we want, how we want
Speaker 6: to dance, what we want to wear, how want to
Speaker 6: wear our.
Speaker 3: Hair, on women more agents.
Speaker 6: But we didn't come out of Freak Nick saying all
Speaker 6: we gonna do is we did not We didn't pussy
Speaker 6: come out of Freaknick saying all we're trying to do
Speaker 6: is get a nigga to give us some money and
Speaker 6: then and then fuck you and then you kiss my
Speaker 6: ass and then you know, Cake rocks nigga. You know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Because that is like would be technically
Speaker 6: tearing apart our community. And that wasn't the purpose of
Speaker 6: Free Nake. The purpose of you know, the Freaknik that
Speaker 6: I supported and went to wasn't to say, I'm about
Speaker 6: to go use these niggas and it just you know,
Speaker 6: have fun, half sex, get a whole bunch of food,
Speaker 6: and then and then trash all black men for the
Speaker 6: rest of my life. No, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 6: we're all supposed to come up and get up, get better.
Speaker 6: Let's make money, Let's make love, Let's have love, Let's
Speaker 6: make babies, Let's get married. Let's take over Wall Street.
Speaker 6: That's take over the world. Let's get private jets, let's
Speaker 6: have houses, Let's get guccie bags. But let's do it
Speaker 6: all together. It's not ended up hating each other.
Speaker 3: Well we so this.
Speaker 6: Whole gotta take it from you to get mine because
Speaker 6: you ain't ship. That's that's not Freaknick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Freaknick the girls that Freakingik went on to
Speaker 3: be lawyer.
Speaker 6: Comedians, President of the United States.
Speaker 3: For that party, got that hand.
Speaker 6: That's that's something that was, and I was telling that
Speaker 6: to some of my younger cousins. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: the thing is, we did all of that ship. And
Speaker 6: also on the way back from Freaknick, I had legit
Speaker 6: an old school ass flashlight in the backseat of the
Speaker 6: car doing my calculus homework on the way back from
Speaker 6: Freaknick because I'm about to turn these fucking pages in
Speaker 6: because i still got to go to class, because I'm
Speaker 6: not about to get fucking put out of school, right
Speaker 6: because I got it grind, I'm still get this job
Speaker 6: before and they still about to still meet the spring
Speaker 6: the goals was different.
Speaker 2: And I'm also out of quarters, so right, the thing
Speaker 2: was we all win.
Speaker 6: It, right, the thing was, And now what we're gonna
Speaker 6: do at Freaknik, though, is we're gonna party our ass
Speaker 6: off in a way that we can't do anywhere else, right, like,
Speaker 6: because that was so big and then in the nineties
Speaker 6: and at HBCU's period is you can be your full self, right,
Speaker 6: you don't have to worry about race being an issue.
Speaker 6: So because we did go in the eighties, we would
Speaker 6: go to the white spring breaks because we had no
Speaker 6: all the spring break right, so they if you could
Speaker 6: You would try to get to dayte to beach or
Speaker 6: you would try to get to whatever, and you were like,
Speaker 6: they don't they don't want us here. They're not they
Speaker 6: don't want us on their beach, they don't want us
Speaker 6: at the little restaurants and all that. So when freak
Speaker 6: Nick started to expand, it was like, oh shit, every party,
Speaker 6: every parking lot, every the hood of every car, I'm welcome.
Speaker 6: I can't do no wrong. Like whoever I start dancing with,
Speaker 6: he gonna dance back. If everybody got a cool a
Speaker 6: beer or drinks and hunch punch in their car and
Speaker 6: all you gotta do is walk down the street with
Speaker 6: a cup, is somebody gonna pour you part of their
Speaker 6: beer in it? It was fake, but it was like
Speaker 6: the biggest, baddest family reunion. But to what related to nobody?
Speaker 6: It's such at one time it was really my cousin.
Speaker 1: Listen, we have a segment on We Talk Back called
Speaker 1: dumb bitch stories or for the men. It's a SIMP series,
Speaker 1: So we want to know a time where you got
Speaker 1: played by that same opposite sex whatever it is, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a dumb bitch story for We Talked Back.
Speaker 1: We want to hear it when we come back after
Speaker 1: this commercial dumb bitch stories.
Speaker 2: So because we've all been a dumb bitch at least
Speaker 2: once or twice.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all we back, Jason have a dumb bitch
Speaker 1: story for us.
Speaker 2: Well, I was, I was the dumbits, right, we're trying
Speaker 2: to make everybody feel okay about these experience.
Speaker 6: So dude was telling me we were just supposed to
Speaker 6: be friends with benefits. We agreed to it. That's all
Speaker 6: we gonna do. We're gonna be friends with benefits. And
Speaker 6: I was like, right, this is great, this is all
Speaker 6: I want. And then dude, by the year into it,
Speaker 6: he said, Jay, I want to take it to the
Speaker 6: next level. It's time thing to the next level. And
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't want to do it. I
Speaker 6: don't want to do it. I don't think it's right.
Speaker 6: I don't want to do it. But y'all all, y'all
Speaker 6: know how sometimes it just the presser gets too good.
Speaker 6: And he was good, and it was good. All the
Speaker 6: things was good. He was like, please, babe, baby, please
Speaker 6: just let me try. I want to be more. I
Speaker 6: think we can do it more. I want to be more.
Speaker 6: I think we can do more. So I said, Okay,
Speaker 6: we're gonna do more. Let's be more, Let's do more,
Speaker 6: all right. I love scuba diving, so I went scuba diving, y'all.
Speaker 6: I went scuba diving and believes. All right, So I
Speaker 6: go scuba diving. The way you get to this place
Speaker 6: where I'm scuba diving is one fucking plane in the
Speaker 6: morning and one plane in the afternoon. Only four people
Speaker 6: can be on the damn plane going and coming. I'm
Speaker 6: leaving the plane. I'm leaving on lands. Some people get off.
Speaker 6: It's this nigga at his fiance. Yeah, your man, my
Speaker 6: me and my me and my man.
Speaker 3: God, damn man, believe that bitch Beyonce LANs.
Speaker 6: Four people get off this the plane I got to
Speaker 6: get on to go home. Four people get off? Is
Speaker 6: this motherfucker and a bitch with a ring on her finger?
Speaker 6: And I look up and I said hey. He said
Speaker 6: said you you you wanted more?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: And I called him, called him over. He said, yeah,
Speaker 6: we need to talk. I say, nigga about what mhm,
Speaker 6: she got a ring on?
Speaker 3: God, that's your.
Speaker 2: Right, because how are you running to him and believe
Speaker 2: on a plane to go Scooba diamond.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. That was like God.
Speaker 6: Were playing folks see it and you told that fool okay,
Speaker 6: like a couple of months before, I just said, all right,
Speaker 6: we can we can go ahead and be something. We
Speaker 6: can go ahead and be something and do something.
Speaker 3: And he was.
Speaker 2: And then did she say something to you? Did she
Speaker 2: look confused or like what happened? You didn't say like
Speaker 2: that's my man.
Speaker 6: Nobody else American at that whole airport, but she knew
Speaker 6: what was up. I called that nigga over and he
Speaker 6: came right over to me, hugged me, kissed me. She
Speaker 6: played her role and just walked right on into the airport.
Speaker 6: She ain't stopped. She ain't say nothing to me.
Speaker 3: Shame.
Speaker 1: That's really not a dumb bit like you weren't a
Speaker 1: dumb bitch. The only readon you would be a dumb
Speaker 1: bitch is if you continue to fuck with him after
Speaker 1: that day?
Speaker 3: Did you? Yeah, a little bit, but you still see
Speaker 3: that's the dumb bitch part.
Speaker 6: I didn't.
Speaker 3: That's done. That's when he came, come on, baby, don't
Speaker 3: add like that. You know ana love you, You know
Speaker 3: a nigga, love you, girl.
Speaker 2: Tell everybody where they can find you.
Speaker 6: Instagram, j smouse Comedy, the single letter J Smiles Comedy.
Speaker 6: Then my website is Jsmiuscomedy dot com. My podcast is
Speaker 6: parenting Up. It's on uh Spotify and Apple and uh.
Speaker 6: I think that's that's the best ways to get at
Speaker 6: me and the outside being open. A comedy tour will be.
Speaker 6: Like I said earlier, the West Coast portion of the
Speaker 6: tour will be coming up in the latter part of
Speaker 6: the spring, so look out for those states.
Speaker 3: And we definitely got to look out.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us. This was so
Speaker 2: much fun. I almost felt like I was dead. I
Speaker 2: wish I could have gone. Man, damn, I wish I
Speaker 2: could have gone.
Speaker 1: We definitely was planning, low ass, bitty ass little girls
Speaker 1: planning to go to Freaknick. Really y It's like we
Speaker 1: was really gonna get there, absolutely sure.
Speaker 2: Nah, I wouldn't. I didn't even have no plans. I
Speaker 2: knew that wasn't in the forecast for me.
Speaker 3: I was pissed.
Speaker 1: By the time we got old enough to actually maybe go,
Speaker 1: it was over with, it was done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely well, thank you so much Ja Smiles joining
Speaker 2: us last week.
Speaker 6: Oh so much, so much. Keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 6: I love your energy, I love your brand, I love
Speaker 6: everything about we talked back.
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you girls, we appreciate it. Y'all heard that listen.
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