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Speaker 1: Every day Breakfast Club, finish for y'all done morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ Envy just hilarious, Charlamagne the God. We

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Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in

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Speaker 2: the building. We are Pastor Mike Todd. Welcome back brother.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Family?

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Speaker 1: Y'all good today?

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Speaker 3: How you feeling? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Brother? I feel great, man, y'all look good in here. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: Before we dive into anything, I do have a question

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Speaker 2: because they would make it fun of me, right, what's up?

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Speaker 2: I was speaking to a pastor and we were talking

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Speaker 2: about the celebration of Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and we used to go all out as a family.

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Speaker 2: We used to do these videos and you know, make

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Speaker 2: it fun and right. We used to decorate the house.

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Speaker 2: And the pastor said, I don't know if it's a

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Speaker 2: good idea to go that far into it. She said,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you don't trick or treat,

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Speaker 2: but what you're doing might be a little too far.

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Speaker 2: I got you, what's your thoughts on it?

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Speaker 4: So there's a whole bunch of different camps on this,

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Speaker 4: especially as people are actually coming out of that holiday.

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Speaker 4: My thing is this is a season where the orgin

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Speaker 4: are very dark, demonic, let's say evil. There are specific

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Speaker 4: things though that happen in our culture that I believe

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Speaker 4: can be redeemed. So I have little kids that actually

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Speaker 4: like dressing up, and if they dress up not on Halloween,

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Speaker 4: it's not a bad thing. It's like, oh, look at him,

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Speaker 4: he looks like a little princess or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: So what me and my family do is we use

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Speaker 4: this opportunity to reach people with what we believe with faith,

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Speaker 4: We use this moment to bless people, to give to them,

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Speaker 4: to actually this is a time for people to actually

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Speaker 4: meet their neighbors. Do you know how many people live

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Speaker 4: in their neighborhood and never talk to their neighbors never.

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Speaker 4: Actually you drive by them, you look at their Christmas light,

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Speaker 4: but you never talk to them. So we use this

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Speaker 4: as a moment to actually meet our neighbors. We invite

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Speaker 4: them to church, we bless them with the best candy,

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Speaker 4: we actually talk to them and use it because all

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Speaker 4: things can actually work together for good. I definitely think

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Speaker 4: that there are some evil things that happen in this season. Also,

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Speaker 4: I think to the pure, all things are pure, and

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Speaker 4: there is something good that can come out of every situation.

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Speaker 4: Also at the church, we do fall festivals and we

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Speaker 4: bring kids to the church and we we take something

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Speaker 4: that culture uses sometime to glorify something else, and we

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Speaker 4: try to figure out a way where we can put hope, love, joy,

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Speaker 4: peace in the middle of it. And so I just

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Speaker 4: would encourage everybody to use this as a moment to

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Speaker 4: come together and not divine.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't think nobody is thinking about Halloween

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Speaker 5: as something evil. It's it's community, it's joy, like you said,

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Speaker 5: it's the giving of the candy. It's a bonding thing

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Speaker 5: with the family and the neighborhoods.

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Speaker 3: Like. I don't think nobody's looking at it.

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Speaker 4: Like now there are some evil stuff. Come on, now,

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Speaker 4: hold on, wait, I mean, first off, all of the

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Speaker 4: why are you.

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Speaker 3: Gonna do that? Don't do it? And one day.

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Speaker 1: And when people do this all year round, yeah, one

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Speaker 1: day of.

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Speaker 3: People pretending no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: I think I think that the hard movies are evil

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Speaker 4: to I think a lot of the origins of them

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Speaker 4: are a lot of the killing, a lot of the

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Speaker 4: evil spirits, a lot of the ghost stuff, a lot

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Speaker 4: of demonic activity, the seances, the Ouiji boards.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I could go on and on and on.

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Speaker 4: I do believe that stuff is demonic and does is

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Speaker 4: spiritual from darkness.

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Speaker 3: What about hip hop when you're playing the records about

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Speaker 3: people killing each.

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Speaker 1: Other, I think a lot of that is evil origin

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 4: Let's be honest, you're gonna stop playing those records.

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Speaker 6: He grew up witness He was able to celebrate a

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Speaker 6: bunch of you know, a bunch of holidays, So I

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Speaker 6: got living out his little boy different. You don't even

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Speaker 6: look at it as a you know, I got you.

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Speaker 3: What are you about to say?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm asking but one somebody, somebody will say that

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Speaker 2: it's more diving into demonic ways and worshiping the demon's worshiping.

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Speaker 3: You don't think that's you don't think you don't think

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Speaker 3: that music does that?

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Speaker 1: You worship it?

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Speaker 3: Satan was in the Minister of music.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, col do you worship it? You worship music?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 3: Actually I love hip hop.

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Speaker 1: I think that worship is a little different than hold on.

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Speaker 1: Hold on.

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Speaker 4: Worship is a definite bowing down to something. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: let's be let's be very clear about that. And music

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Speaker 4: is a conduit of worship. So I would encourage everybody

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Speaker 4: whatever you're listening to, there is something that can get

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Speaker 4: into your heart, your spirit, your mind, your soul that

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Speaker 4: will make you do things that is not what you

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Speaker 4: would really want to do. It begins to show your

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Speaker 4: allegiance and to make idols of different things. And so

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Speaker 4: that's why music is so powerful. And I will say

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Speaker 4: I agree with you that the origins of a lot

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Speaker 4: of the music that is out and that we listen

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Speaker 4: to is from evil nature music Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Oh completely, But that's.

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Speaker 3: Why you have to have strong will.

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Speaker 6: If you have your own you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: You got strong will and then you won't be affected.

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Speaker 1: Ah.

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Speaker 4: I will say that. I will say that a strong

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Speaker 4: will will get you so far. But there are things

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Speaker 4: that are more powerful than a will. There are decisions

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Speaker 4: that you can make to partner with certain things that

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Speaker 4: are stronger than your decison.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 4: How many people have said I ain't going back to

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Speaker 4: that dude and he called you at nighttime and you

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Speaker 4: end up in his bed.

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Speaker 1: Dangn hold on. I'm just trying to say.

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying is how many times have we said

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Speaker 4: we're not gonna eat the donut and We're sitting there

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Speaker 4: with a box of Krispy Kremes. How many times have

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Speaker 4: we said so? Strong will is not always enough. I

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Speaker 4: really believe that you have to not just have strong will,

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Speaker 4: you actually have to have disciplines, practices, things that are

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Speaker 4: accountable around you.

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Speaker 1: Because if you don't, you will end up.

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Speaker 4: I think everybody listening and everybody in this room has

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Speaker 4: done stuff we had a strong will that we were

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Speaker 4: not gonna do. Yeah, for sure, And that's why I

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Speaker 4: think that we really have to put our faith in

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Speaker 4: something that's stronger than our strong will and have a

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Speaker 4: foundation that will never change.

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Speaker 1: And for me, that's car See.

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Speaker 2: Charlemage is the type of person you know you give

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Speaker 2: up cigarettes and he'd be like, but you're still But

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: What I want to be comfortable with.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not judging. I'm just saying, but also to it.

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Speaker 5: What what he failed to mention is I don't think

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Speaker 5: you can. I don't think you can do a little

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Speaker 5: bit of evil. So if you think something is wrong,

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Speaker 5: you can't.

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Speaker 3: Do a little bit of it.

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Speaker 1: I got you, I'm saying, I hear it.

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Speaker 3: So either you're gonna stop doing it all together.

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Speaker 2: Or you're still I'm just I'm just not diving into

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Speaker 2: the huge thing that I used to do before and

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Speaker 2: do these huge videos and decorations and productions. I'm not

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Speaker 2: doing that. If my kids wanted to dress up in

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Speaker 2: tricker treat with their friends, I'm cool with, but I'm not.

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Speaker 4: We gotta celebrate this. This is progression, though, and not perfection.

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Speaker 4: And I think that everybody has to do that because

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Speaker 4: there will be the Charlotta Mayne's of this world that

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Speaker 4: always try to pick out what you're not doing. But

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Speaker 4: but I need I felt that that you need an

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Speaker 4: a man right there.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like that that's not the way that

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Speaker 4: people change. People don't fall into their vices all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden. They fall in progressively. It's watching something, it's

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Speaker 4: doing something. It's then participating it all the time, and

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Speaker 5: No, this is all of a sudden, because on Friday

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Speaker 5: he was telling us how you forgot his costume. He's

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Speaker 5: supposed to be damned that, and then all of a

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Speaker 5: sudden to break shout out everybody who celebrated Halloween.

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Speaker 2: Is the transition is production. I'm not doing the production

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Speaker 2: and opening up my house to that envious I am

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Speaker 2: still go I still go out with my kids.

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Speaker 1: Don't let them do not let him or anybody else,

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's it's but this is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: The truth of the matter is all transitions and have

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Speaker 4: you have been something else.

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Speaker 1: You have to realize that people won't.

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Speaker 4: Understand your transition because a lot of times that transition

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Speaker 4: is supposed to happen in the dark.

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Speaker 1: It's supposed to have a dark one. You have to

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Speaker 1: develop into that thing.

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Speaker 4: And because you guys, do everything in front of everybody,

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Speaker 4: or last year or last month and like you not that, Hey,

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Speaker 4: forget all of that for everybody that's listening in this

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Speaker 1: Progression is messy.

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Speaker 7: Because I was thinking and again and again, what I'm

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Speaker 7: going to tell you is progression and changing into who

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Speaker 7: God has created you to be is a messy process.

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Speaker 4: And sometimes you go back and forth. Sometimes you're trying

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Speaker 4: real to you and what you actually have to do.

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Speaker 4: So I celebrate you in making the progression step. If

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Speaker 1: To do another question, though you know we did a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into it this week. That's my masking.

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Speaker 2: So when you speak to somebody that's like a medium, right,

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Speaker 2: and they're saying that they can see the afterlife or

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Speaker 2: in between, what's your thoughts on things like that that

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Speaker 2: come from it a negative place?

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Speaker 1: So we don't know.

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Speaker 4: The supernatural is very real. Absolutely, let me be very clear,

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Speaker 4: the supernatural is very real. But the Bible is very

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Speaker 4: clear too that the same people that were inspired and

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Speaker 4: empowered by God to actually make change. We can use

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Speaker 4: Moses and we can use Elijah who were calling down fire.

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Speaker 4: There were people in that time that were actually empowered

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Speaker 4: by evil forces or by the devil. And so I

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Speaker 4: definitely believe that when somebody is channeling a different spirit

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Speaker 4: or talking to the future, my question is where's the source.

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Speaker 4: Is the source God, the God of the universe, the

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Speaker 4: God who created all things, the one who loves everybody,

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Speaker 4: or is the source something that is evil, demonic, perverted, twisted,

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Speaker 4: And so I definitely believe all of it's real, and

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Speaker 4: things through people, because there's too many signs of that everywhere.

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Speaker 1: But the truth is, check the source. Would you would

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Speaker 1: you talk to a medium.

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Speaker 4: Not to find out anything. I would talk to him

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Speaker 4: No, you got a question. How do you find out

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Speaker 4: pastor or a leader in the faith, it's like they

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Speaker 4: need to know everything only Jesus, only Jesus.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's about it y'all needing to know everything.

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Speaker 5: I think they want to make sure your action is

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Speaker 5: lined up with what you're well.

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Speaker 4: The truth of the matter is that has to be

447
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Speaker 4: how we live. Like that has to be how we

448
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Speaker 4: live because and the truth of the matter, you don't

449
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Speaker 4: see fathers being who they're supposed to be here in

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Speaker 4: marriages and you don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, name me one.

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Speaker 4: Vocation that everybody in that vocation is doing it right.

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Speaker 4: And so I pray for those people and I pray

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Speaker 4: for them like I could be one of them. So

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Speaker 4: that's the thing where grace and mercy and love comes in,

456
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Speaker 4: because like I rock with people who messed up and

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Speaker 4: they did eight things right and two things wrong, because

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Speaker 4: the Bible tells us he's like, hey, those of you

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Speaker 4: who are godly, I need you to restore those people

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Speaker 4: lovingly lest you be one to fall in temptation and

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Speaker 4: fall yourself.

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Speaker 1: And that's my heart behind it. And I think that.

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Speaker 4: More people need to wrestle with those questions with the

464
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Speaker 4: same people, not on podcaster or video chats or streams.

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Speaker 4: They need to go sit in a room with somebody

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Speaker 4: and find out because there are answers there. But the

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Speaker 4: thing that changed me is my experience. So everybody's trying

468
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Speaker 4: to do it here, and it has to happen here.

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Speaker 4: It has to happen out of the heart flowed the

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Speaker 4: issues of life, and most people will stay close enough

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Speaker 4: to God to get an understanding, but not close enough

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Speaker 4: to have an experience. And there's one thing that you

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Speaker 4: cannot take away from anybody is their own experience. When

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Speaker 4: you heard a song and it made you cry, it

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Speaker 4: don't matter if everybody else says that song is.

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Speaker 1: Whack to you.

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Speaker 4: You had an experience, And y'all can say this, But

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Speaker 4: every time I feel like this when I play that song,

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Speaker 4: you understand what I'm saying. There have been times where

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Speaker 4: I've been in my room, lonely, depressed and I felt

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Speaker 4: God come and speak to me and give me hope

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Speaker 4: and give me encouragement, and a tear fell down my eye.

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Speaker 4: As an eight on at aneagram, I barely ever cried

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Speaker 4: like that type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I had experiences when I was about.

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Speaker 4: To go cheat, and when I was about to and

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Speaker 4: God said turn around now, like hold on, wait, like

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Speaker 4: turn around now, turn around now, I.

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Speaker 1: Knew that wasn't me because me wanted to go like.

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Speaker 2: I had experiences when God told me that he would

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Speaker 2: use my voice to help me.

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Speaker 1: Millions of people find him.

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Speaker 4: But I wouldn't have to cop out and be whack,

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Speaker 4: and I could be myself who he called me to be,

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Speaker 4: like I'm nobody can steal that from me. And so

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Speaker 4: the truth of the matter is it may not make

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Speaker 4: sense to everybody in their head, but what does Everybody

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Speaker 4: uses Wi Fi right now and doesn't know how it works.

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Speaker 3: Don't even know where it comes from.

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Speaker 1: Don't even know where it comes from.

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Speaker 4: I mean, average person use his WiFi every day, knows

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Speaker 4: how to connect, but has no idea how it works.

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Speaker 4: Nobody knows how the microwave works. Nobody knows how their

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Speaker 4: car works, but they use it. Why then, when it

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Speaker 4: comes to you can look at the world and see

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Speaker 4: God in everything. Why do you have to understand every

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Speaker 4: single thing to believe it. There's so much evidence all

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Speaker 4: around the fact that a man and a woman can

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Speaker 4: come together and have sex and that baby.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how many things would have to go.

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Speaker 4: Perfectly right for it to come out with your eyes

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Speaker 4: and their nose and their skin complexion and look like

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Speaker 4: your granddaddy. This is the majestic, amazing, all inspiring.

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Speaker 1: God we serve. It's just too good. It's just. And

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Speaker 1: then my other question is what else you're gonna believe in?

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Speaker 1: Where else should we go?

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Speaker 4: Like the disciples said, like, there are other options, but

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Speaker 4: none of them have this much proof. And so for me,

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Speaker 4: anybody listening right now, I just encourage you to go

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Speaker 4: on a journey. I encourage you to question. I think

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Speaker 4: the generation before did not question because of fear of

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Speaker 4: being rebellious, and that fear of being rebellious meant sin,

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Speaker 4: not trying to find an understanding. But the Bible says

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Speaker 4: in all you're getting getting understanding. And so I think

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Speaker 4: that there are things that you can go after. And

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Speaker 4: God is so loving that he'll show you himself.

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Speaker 5: Even when I heard Emily Choppers say that I've always

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Speaker 5: innately felt that way.

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Speaker 3: Right, if God is my father, then Jesus would be

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Speaker 3: my brother.

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Speaker 5: And you look at scriptures like Romans eight twenty nine

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Speaker 5: that said, for those God for new He also pre

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Speaker 5: death preds conformed to the image of his son, that

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Speaker 5: he might be the first born among many brothers and sisters. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and then I think it was John twenty seventeen years

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Speaker 5: Jesus tells Mary Magdalene to go to my brothers and

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Speaker 5: say to them, I am ascending to.

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Speaker 3: My father and your father, to my God and your God.

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Speaker 5: I've always said, if I'm one of God's children and

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Speaker 5: Jesus must have been my brother, that's I've always felt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so that's where you have to go deeper.

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Speaker 4: And I'm grateful to this conversation with you. You got

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Speaker 4: myself phone number, I got yours, Like, let's talk because

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Speaker 4: it's a theological understanding of the Trinity of God being

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Speaker 4: all three in one and most people don't understand that.

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Speaker 1: They don't understand confused. That's where you.

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Speaker 4: Get confused, and we can walk through that. And I

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Speaker 4: did a series on our our church, Transformation Church, called

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Speaker 4: The Upgrade, and it talks about the Holy Spirit. I

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Speaker 4: basically gave the analogy that if you went into a

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Speaker 4: beautiful hotel and you pay for the basic room and

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Speaker 4: the person said to you, it's like, hey, for free.

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Speaker 4: You can have the upgrade, would you take it? And

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Speaker 4: everybody would like, I'll give you to Well, that's the

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Speaker 4: same thing in the Christian faith is that many people

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Speaker 4: stop at just Jesus saving them. But Jesus says before

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Speaker 4: he leaves to be crucified, he tells the disciples, Hey,

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Speaker 4: it's better for me that I do go, because when

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Speaker 4: I go, then another expression of Me gets to show

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Speaker 4: it up, called the Holy Spirit. And when the Holy

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Speaker 4: Spirit comes, he's the one that's gonna lead you into

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Speaker 4: all truth. He's the one that's gonna guide you. He's

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Speaker 4: gonna be the paraclet parabole, which means he or the periclet,

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Speaker 4: the one that walk alongside of you to help you

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Speaker 4: in your daily life. And that's where the different forms

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Speaker 4: of God begin to show up for believers.

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Speaker 1: And so I'll walk you through it, brother.

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Speaker 4: But the Trinity is how God is all God, but

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Speaker 4: He becomes man to be able to be the sacrifice

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Speaker 4: for all of us so that we can be able

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Speaker 4: to get back to the Father.

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Speaker 1: See that is confusing.

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Speaker 6: That's why you have to see you and you have

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Speaker 6: to also be open to learning as well.

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Speaker 1: And I am and I.

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Speaker 6: Feel like Chopa was you know, is it's just that

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Speaker 6: nobody was there to really give him that because he's

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Speaker 6: like yo again.

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Speaker 5: But reading reading don't mean you comprehend that.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The understanding of it. Number one.

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Speaker 4: If I was to come here and explain to you

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Speaker 4: a geometry problem, we would not get it in this session.

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Speaker 4: And people are asking complex questions without basic concepts, So

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Speaker 4: it's very difficult for in a sound bite for somebody

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Speaker 4: to give do you understand what I'm saying? And so, well,

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Speaker 4: that's where I would just say that if those people

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Speaker 4: are really on and if anybody is really on a truth,

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Speaker 4: be willing to go on the journey for longer than

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Speaker 4: three minutes.

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Speaker 6: For sure, because either Jesus is our brother, well, God

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Speaker 6: is our grandfather, and I know God don't want to

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Speaker 6: be called grand head.

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Speaker 4: And so all I'm saying is, let's go on the

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Speaker 4: journey together for understanding. Because those who seek wisdom, those

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Speaker 4: will who seek it will actually find it. And that

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Speaker 4: is where I think a lot of people just don't

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Speaker 4: have a seek more beyond the quick viral moment, and

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Speaker 4: we gotta go the great things in life everybody knows

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Speaker 4: are the things that you actually put actual intention, time,

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Speaker 4: effort and energy.

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Speaker 2: Sure, now let's talk about this as we outside of this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we outside talk about this tour seventeen cities.

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Speaker 4: So myself Transformation Worship, which is a collective of artists

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Speaker 4: from our church in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Shout out to Transformation

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Speaker 4: Nation and Tod Tribbit, Kiera Shear Jonathan Mcreynold's I mean

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Speaker 4: when I tell you the level of singing, the level

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Speaker 4: of anointing, the level of just church that happens every night.

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Speaker 4: We just finished our first week, and y'all it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's so absolutely nuts.

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Speaker 4: If you want to see what Heaven's gonna look like

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Speaker 4: before you get there, you gotta pull up to the

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Speaker 4: wee outside tour. We're actually gonna be here in Brooklyn

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Speaker 4: on I believe the sixteenth. The sixteenth will be at

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Speaker 4: the Paramount Theater and I'm telling you, tickets are going crazy.

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Speaker 4: People are enjoying and it's just a night of encouragement,

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Speaker 4: Kingdom people coming together and we want everybody to come out.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, this is what people need.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 6: How did the different x come together? How was Ti

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Speaker 6: Tribit Schowsen? How were you chosen how it was.

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Speaker 1: Kish So this this is TI Tribute's tour. Okay. So

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Speaker 1: Tye hit me up.

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Speaker 4: He actually came to our church in Tulsa, Oklahoma a

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Speaker 4: year ago, year and a half ago, and and we

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Speaker 4: got on the stage together. I'm a music producer before

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Speaker 4: I was a pastor, so most people don't know. I've

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Speaker 4: worked with a lot of different people. But God said, yeah,

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Speaker 4: stop that, and I'm gonna teach you something different. And

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Speaker 4: so I thought the music thing was over. And then

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Speaker 4: a few years ago we started making some music. Tie

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Speaker 4: came and he was like, Bro, this is crazy, and

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, we're just trying to do our thing.

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Speaker 4: He was like, if I go on tour again, I

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Speaker 4: want you all to come. And he's a man of

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Speaker 4: his word. He hit me up and he was like, Bro,

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Speaker 4: bring transformation Worship outside with me. Let's do this tour

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Speaker 4: in the fall. And this is my first time being

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Speaker 4: on tour with this team. And usually I'm preaching places

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Speaker 4: and traveling all the other stuff. But it's been really fun, man,

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Speaker 4: to just get up there and praise the God that

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Speaker 4: transformed my life and bring other people along with me.

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Speaker 4: And so if you want to turn up. You gotta

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Speaker 4: come out. All y'all are invited personally. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 4: saying for sure, Jess, But I'm telling you, on the sixteenth,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have a seat with your name on it.

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Speaker 1: I'm the one that's.

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Speaker 3: Going to come.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm the only one day i'n go out with shot.

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Speaker 1: Bring your six kids. Envy that I got six. I

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Speaker 1: got six, I got you. I'll pay for them because

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Speaker 1: that's seven.

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Speaker 3: Actually, Okay, it's on me.

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Speaker 4: If everybody wants to come, I will make sure you

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Speaker 4: are there taking care of I want people to experience

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Speaker 4: this because a lot of times people actually don't think

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Speaker 4: you can have fun. You can actually have excitement, you

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Speaker 4: can actually have joy in that type of context. But

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, as soon as you come up, as

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00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: soon as you come in, it's a whole different level.

661
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: We're doing it at the Paramount here in Brooklyn. Yeah,

662
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: the last place that we need. Now watch this, Watch this,

663
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: Watch this. This is a live nation thing. Charlottagne's messy,

664
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: but this is a live nation thing. Yeah, this is

665
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: a live nation thing. And this is the thing that

666
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: I need everybody to know. Some of these venues have

667
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 4: contracts that they have to sell alcohol and do all

668
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: these different things. And so at our last spot in Atlanta,

669
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: I think they had drinks and everything, and the people

670
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: who participated participated, and.

671
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: The people who do and didn't. Temptation is gonna be everywhere.

672
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 4: So if you got to say Hallelujah with the drink

673
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: in your hand, God bless you.

674
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: But that's not what we're promoting.

675
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 4: But we're not saying for anybody to not come, because

676
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: that's something that you do.

677
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 5: And when Jesus did turn the water to wine to

678
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 5: the one, I know nobody ever talked about that part.

679
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

680
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: Nobody about it? Yeah, I think they probably. I think

681
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: I think it was gone. Yeah.

682
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: I want to ask.

683
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 5: You're one of the few pastors who really speak the

684
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: language of coaching, right, where's the line between relevance and

685
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: reverence for you?

686
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

687
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: So the line is at the conviction. I I really

688
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: have a relationship with God where he will correct me

689
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 4: and convict me. And I have a relationship with people

690
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: who have to sit down and shut up card in

691
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: my life and most people, when they get to certain levels,

692
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 4: nobody can tell them nothing.

693
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: But I have a wife.

694
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 4: Shout out to my wife Natalie, who is the greatest

695
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: gift that God ever gave me. I met my wife

696
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: when I was fifteen years old and we've been together

697
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: for twenty three years, married, fifteen, four kids later. And

698
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: she's the only woman that sees me fully. And when

699
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: I say fully, she sees my insecurity, she sees my fault,

700
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: she sees my lax she sees my successes. And God

701
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: gave her to me to be a mirror. She don't

702
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: care about none of this. She don't care about anything.

703
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: She cares that I am a man of God and

704
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: I do what I say. And so first off, if

705
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: I'm coming home laying next to that every night, that's

706
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: a lot. Hey, Mike, that was too far for real. Hey,

707
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 4: you shouldn't have said that. Oh dang, I thought that. Like,

708
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 4: so I had people like that in my life, and

709
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: that's just she's the main one, but I have several others,

710
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: and so I approach everything with reverence.

711
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: I think that.

712
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: Sometimes people get confused though, the way people present some

713
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: thing with being irreverent, just because it's different. And one

714
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: of the things that I know for me is like

715
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 4: I would be this way if I was an Amazon

716
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 4: truck driver.

717
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: I would like close.

718
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: I would, I would, I would listen to music, I

719
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: would do different like and God doesn't bless who you

720
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: pretend to be.

721
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: He blesses who you really are.

722
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: And so for me, it's like God's changed me every

723
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 4: part of my life throughout this journey, and He's continuing.

724
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: To change me. That's why I lead a church called

725
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: Transformation Church.

726
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: I will not be the same this time next year,

727
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: something in me will have changed, and perfectly something in

728
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 4: you would have changed. And that's why a lot of

729
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 4: time we take snapshots of people in their life and

730
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 4: we keep them there. But please make sure you're running

731
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 4: a movie on me, because I'm going to keep changing you.

732
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean, three years ago, I was two hundred and.

733
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 3: Seventy five pounds.

734
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: Stop blind, I am not playing with you, Jess. I'll

735
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: give you one hundred and seventy five pound. I was

736
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: hiding it in them three x four x supreme.

737
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: I was.

738
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: I was flying. You couldn't tell. But then God convicted me.

739
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 4: He said, how are you gonna tell these people to

740
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 4: live right? And you are going to commit sin every

741
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: day with your fork? Nobody talks about it, Nobody talks

742
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 4: about donuts. That was me because the truth of the

743
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 4: matter is I was sinning, not with a woman.

744
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: I was sinning with a.

745
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 2: Donut and everything. Hey, listen, I'm telling you. I'm telling

746
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: you people, it's funny.

747
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: But the truth of the matter is people are out

748
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: here judging other people for lyon and committing adultery, and

749
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: they's doing it all while committing sin. Like food was

750
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: meant for us to be nourished to fulfill God's plan,

751
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 4: not to become something to give us peace when we

752
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 4: need to go to him for peace.

753
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: And so again, and that conviction came to.

754
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 4: Me, and God was like, I don't want you to

755
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 4: say nothing until you get your life in order. And

756
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 4: so I turned my garage into a gym. I heard

757
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: a personal trainer. Me and my wife work out every

758
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: day together, and I've lost sixty pounds.

759
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: My wife findal and she ever been in her whole life. God,

760
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: I thank you.

761
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 4: And what I'm saying is, but it came because I

762
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: got convicted, like and so and again. We all miss

763
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 4: the mark. Everybody misses the mark and falls short of

764
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: the glory of God. But we all got to keep trying.

765
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 6: You know what.

766
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I was two seventy five, that's Okay, that's crazy,

767
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yeah, but yeah, and I'm.

768
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 4: Not like like, yeah, it was under it was under,

769
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: it was under there. He not big a shit, but

770
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: he BigGAN that God doesn't bless who you pretend to be.

771
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: He blessing who you really are. I do not because though,

772
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: but but he doesn't. But don't smoke it on. So

773
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: what are you going with there?

774
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 6: For?

775
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, don't judge her. Listen, you can cuss around me.

776
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 2: You're still shitting' why. I'm gonna tell your mama why

777
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: what would your mama say? This is religion, same thing

778
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: you said, but speaking this is religion.

779
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: What's happening right now is religion.

780
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: Religion says that I'm doing something because of who's around.

781
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 4: I'm doing something because of how it makes me look.

782
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: I'm doing something because of how I want you to

783
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: view me. If that's not who you really are, it

784
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 4: can never change. And so for me, I tell people

785
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: all the time, if you cuss cuss around me, something

786
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: in me, though. My prayer is we spend enough time

787
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 4: together would allow you to see that that's not the

788
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 4: type of language that you have to use to get

789
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: your point across. But if that's what you choose. I

790
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 4: would still rather be connected to you and have access

791
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: to you and love you and be able to be

792
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: an answer to your problems then to be disconnected because

793
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: you cussed.

794
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 5: Right now, I draw the line, I don't do none

795
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: of it around me.

796
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: Some stiff you can't do around me.

797
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: I mean, there are tons of things you can't do

798
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 4: around me, just for the reasons of what I'm trying

799
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: to listen. But the truth of the matter is sometimes

800
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 4: we use those things and we act like that's a

801
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 4: God thing and it's actually your personal thing, Like stop

802
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: putting everything on God and say like, I don't like

803
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: when you cuss around me, like hey.

804
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: But certainly of respect though around your mama, some people

805
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: do depending on who your mama is.

806
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 4: And what I'm saying is if you don't do it

807
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 4: around your mama, but you do it around everybody else,

808
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 4: you're a faker.

809
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 2: And what happens, what I'm saying is you're disintegrated. You

810
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: are learning and practicing being different people, and there are

811
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: too many people. Why depression is on high while people

812
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: are dealing with anxiety because they forget who they have

813
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: to show up as.

814
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: So every room I walk into, I show up as myself.

815
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't have to change. I live a whole life.

816
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: Most people, depending on who watched it, the bishop walks in,

817
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 4: the CEO walks in, oh, celebrity walks in. They are

818
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 4: trying to figure out who do I need to be

819
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 4: right now?

820
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: So if you curse in front of your friends, you

821
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: should curse from of your mom or your figure. Yes,

822
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: well this is the thing, this is the thing, but

823
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: with my but yes, that's.

824
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: So. The truth of the matter is because there's a

825
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: reason why she didn't want you to talk like that,

826
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 4: and you're choosing to go beyond that because I'm.

827
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: Gonna live my own life. It's your own personal convictions.

828
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that I'd rather you be the same

829
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 4: way so that God could actually change you instead of

830
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: him having to find which version of you you going

831
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: to be today.

832
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 5: The conditioning our conviction, and what I mean by that is,

833
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 5: as just said, we're all conditioned to not talk like

834
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: that in front of all parents for the most part, right,

835
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 5: So conditioning our conviction.

836
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: Because I don't curs in front of my mom just

837
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: because I know she ain't going for.

838
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: It again, I think it could actually be the it's conditioning,

839
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 4: like you know that for especially in the black household,

840
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: Like there's certain things you don't do here, but wait

841
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 4: till y'all kids start doing it.

842
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: Do you let your kids cuss in front of you?

843
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: God?

844
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: Damn, I mean, oh my god, not you? What do

845
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: you say?

846
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: No?

847
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: No, I don't. Do you let your kids cut in

848
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: front of you? Hell o?

849
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 7: No?

850
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: Do you let your kids cut in front of you?

851
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 7: No?

852
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 5: But I have asked my seventeen year old when she

853
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 5: was younger sixty, I said, do you curse?

854
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: And she was like yes, So all of you know,

855
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: can I just be as your brother, you're living in

856
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: a state of delusion. Watch watch, because you literally are

857
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: doing the same thing your parents.

858
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: Did to you.

859
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 4: You've been conditioned, and you know your kids are doing

860
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: the same thing you're doing.

861
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: But for respect purposes, you.

862
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: Would rather not teach them how to have a stronger

863
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: vocabulary or teach them a reason why they cuss or

864
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 4: do it.

865
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: You would rather just be a secret from you and

866
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: just don't do it around me.

867
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: But then you could go online and see them cussing

868
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: out people and listen, all of y'all are like, it's

869
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: a respect thing, and it's like all we're doing is

870
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: keeping the cycle going. We're not changing language, we're not

871
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 4: increasing vocabulary, we're not giving reasons or even understanding reasons

872
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 4: why they're doing it. All we're doing is creating a

873
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: barrier for them to be inauthentic around us. And so

874
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: most parents are not the people their kids go to

875
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 4: when they're in need because there's all of these micro

876
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 4: fake things that we put up around ourselves. So when

877
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: I'm really struggling, I'm not coming to you because I

878
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 4: can't be real because I'm pissed that these people did

879
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 4: it and I need to cuss to whoever i'm talking

880
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 4: to right now, and I can't cuss to my parents

881
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: because it's disrespectful. So I got hurt and I'm pissed

882
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 4: and I'm mad, and I can't do this, and we

883
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: condition them to do that. So all I'm saying to

884
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: you is like, it's delusional our mom. I don't know,

885
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: but I'm just saying. I'm saying, these are the cycle.

886
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: In my mind, though they ask permission, if it's something

887
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: like permission to curse, and then they curse, but it's

888
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: a form of respect in my point, just like my

889
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: kids don't say brough to me, my son is not

890
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: bru friend. You got to check that that's their dialect.

891
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: But because he does call me bruh and calls his

892
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: friend brou, that don't mean he's being fake. That just respect.

893
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 2: And when I speak to my dad or I speak

894
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: to somebody older, I say yes sir, yes ma'am.

895
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: But I don't call just ma'am.

896
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, it's a different level of respect. So let

897
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: me ask this question.

898
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: I have to say that you're a fake person.

899
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is I think that again, these are

900
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: the conversations that we have to have in culture, that

901
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: we are creating what we hate, Like these are the

902
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 4: type of things that I wish when I was struggling

903
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: with certain things, I felt comfortable enough to go to

904
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 4: my parents. And it's all of these small I mean,

905
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: I'm getting schooled by people who don't know nothing and

906
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 4: don't love me. Because if I do tell my parents

907
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: what's really going on, I'm gonna get my tail whooped

908
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 4: like and it's a form of And again, I don't

909
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: know if the black community is ready to have these

910
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: conversations because a lot of times, like we we we

911
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: perpetuate what actually causes the trauma in our families. And

912
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that if your kids cuss and it's

913
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 4: a respect thing, you know, they cussing at somebody else's mama.

914
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 4: Sometimes they might not cuss to you. And you're saying that,

915
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: but that police officer that told them something and they

916
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 4: didn't like you, get the f off me and da

917
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 4: da da, that's somebody else's mama. I'm just saying, we

918
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: are conditioning our people, and I would rather know where

919
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: my kids are and having those conversations. And again, this

920
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: is deeper because it comes down to you how you.

921
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: Want to raise your own family.

922
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 4: So I'm not I don't understand what I'm saying, but

923
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: I do think that it came from you cussing in

924
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 4: front of me and a lot of people, those are

925
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: the things that we do that are religious, like we

926
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: say that's bad, but then cussing out our wife is

927
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 4: not like whoa wait a minute, you cussed in front

928
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 4: of me, not even at me, but you will cuss

929
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: the person who loves you, picks up your stinky draws

930
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: and has forgiven you six times you cuss them out

931
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 4: in front of your kids.

932
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 5: I do I don't disagree with you, But I feel

933
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 5: like we're kind of conflicting two issues. And what I

934
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 5: mean by that is when my kids, when my daughter

935
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 5: should be eighteen next year, she curves in front of me.

936
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: I don't I don't care.

937
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: You're just talking about in the season that you're raising her.

938
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely love and I get it.

939
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 3: And I also think that dang, I think I lost

940
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: my mother. Point. Oh I did mother point.

941
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: It's all right, But that is in the season that

942
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: I do believe.

943
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 4: The Bible says trained a child in the way they

944
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 4: should go, so when they get old, they won't depart

945
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 4: from it. It's not just what you say, though, it

946
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: is what you do. You're training them both ways. So

947
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 4: if you're teaching your children or teaching anybody, hey, you

948
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: can do this, just don't do it around me. Is

949
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: that really what we're trying to teach them?

950
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying.

951
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 5: I'm just teaching them that everything there's a season for everything.

952
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 5: You turn eighteen, you're an adult. Now you can have

953
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 5: a kind of the other thing I was going to

954
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 5: say is I don't think oh, that's that was what

955
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 5: I was talking about. I don't think cursing is a

956
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 5: barrier that keeps children from wanting to be open with you.

957
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: I think that you.

958
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 5: Just want to establish a level of trust to where

959
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: they feel like they can talk to you about anything.

960
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: Having a curse keeps that.

961
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: I think the way that some parents act when their

962
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: kids say things they hear their parents say does create barriers.

963
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just leave it at that.

964
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 4: I would you think I counsel and work with a

965
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 4: lot of people that do not have healthy relationships with

966
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: their parents.

967
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: You act like this over a curse word. Imagine how

968
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: you act if I tell you I'm having sex.

969
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 4: Or I'm a lesbian, or I try these drugs or

970
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: getting over over Damn, I get it.

971
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: No, I'm not talking to you.

972
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I'm just saying from the other side

973
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: of helping a lot of people's kids who are adults

974
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 4: that are thirty three and thirty five and forty two

975
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 4: and at grave sites forgiving their parents because of how

976
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: they didn't have interaction with them. I'm just saying, like

977
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: I would, Yeah, I would do it a little different.

978
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want I want to ask you, Mike path

979
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 5: to Todd about this. They said Pastor Michael Todd slammed

980
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 5: for distracting outfit during sermon on faith, and they said

981
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 5: you had on what was considered feminine preaching attire.

982
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: You have no dress.

983
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 5: So I was gonna ask, when clips of your sermons

984
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 5: go viral, sometimes I guess for the wrong reasons.

985
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: How do you handle being misinterpret what's feminine about this?

986
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 4: You tell me, Bro, it's it's black slacks, wide leg

987
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: that's in tring. It's a black shirt, and it's a

988
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 4: cropped leather top, and it's and it's got Chelsea boots

989
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: on that are yellow.

990
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 8: So they didn't know you had that shape.

991
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 4: And the thing is, nobody said anything to me when

992
00:46:54,080 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 4: my belly was literally folding over my belt, I was

993
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: more holy than like, but but but but because I

994
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: got fit and healthy and I can wear larger medium,

995
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 4: now it's feminine.

996
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: It's the culture we live in.

997
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: Like, you know what I'm saying, Like, the truth of

998
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 4: the matter is to play ball at this level, there's

999
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: going to be opinions and pressure.

1000
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: How do you take people seriously with that?

1001
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 5: But they forget your word, but they look at I'm like,

1002
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 5: well that The first thing I thought was I want

1003
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: to go hear what you're talking about.

1004
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: Bro.

1005
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: Literally, I'm like I want to go hear the word.

1006
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: And again that's part of the reason why I have critics,

1007
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 4: and anybody that decides to do anything other than stay

1008
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 4: in the house will have critics. And it's part of

1009
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: the process that God allows me to endure to be

1010
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 4: more like him.

1011
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: I pray for all those people. Now that's the hard part.

1012
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: The hard part is seeing christ Man six sixty six

1013
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: say something about me and having to be like God,

1014
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 4: I thank you Father, whatever made him post that comment

1015
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 4: or say that I think you that you would heal

1016
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: his heart and give him the ability to have grace

1017
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: and capacity for other people. Like that's hardy and and

1018
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 4: but that's what the Bible tells us to do. That's

1019
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: like love your enemy, pray for them, pray for those

1020
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 4: who despitefully use you.

1021
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: These people don't know me.

1022
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 4: And the truth of the matter of the reason I

1023
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: wore this is because my wife told me she liked it. Yeah,

1024
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 4: like literally that morning, my wife was like, I like

1025
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 4: that one. It was between this one and this one,

1026
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 4: and she was like, I like that one. So the

1027
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 4: crazy thing is like those are just things to distract you.

1028
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: And for me, I have to stay focused and I

1029
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 4: have too much to do in this world and to

1030
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: be put off by that?

1031
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 6: Is it wrong to be inspired by, you know, the

1032
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 6: word of another preacher Because a lot of people, right,

1033
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 6: they think if they go to church and they hear

1034
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 6: one one person say this and preach their sermon this

1035
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 6: way or whatever whatever, and then they go and they

1036
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 6: see somebody else say it, then it's stealing, I says,

1037
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 6: and a rap song.

1038
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 4: No, you know, well if that's if that's the case,

1039
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 4: then we're stealing from Paul John, them from David. We're

1040
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 4: still no. The gospel is meant to be shared. And

1041
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 4: the only reason that people try to corner the market

1042
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: on something is because they're insecure that they'll ever get

1043
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: anything else. The truth of the matter is that protection

1044
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 4: of like I said it like this, I said it

1045
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 4: like that, Like if the whole goal is that the

1046
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: gospel of Jesus Christ be proclaimed so that everybody would

1047
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 4: know about him. If you don't know how to talk

1048
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 4: a certain way, please use my words and tell them

1049
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: if that helped you help them with it, like this

1050
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 4: is the Kingdom of God. And again, because the Kingdom

1051
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 4: and a lot of areas has been turned into an

1052
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: organization instead of an organism, like then people are like,

1053
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 4: now it's my you know, my property and my this,

1054
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 4: and I said it like this, and it's like, yo,

1055
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 4: I tell young preachers all the time, take my stuff. Yeah,

1056
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: preach it exactly, how ippreach it? We have people do

1057
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: it all the time. I send people my notes like yeah,

1058
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: what are you talking about?

1059
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: Like this is the inspired word of God.

1060
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 4: Like there are certain lines like if I put it

1061
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 4: in a book and say it a certain way, and

1062
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 4: the company I'm partnering with has a contract that it

1063
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 4: has to be said.

1064
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: You can't take that.

1065
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 4: But like my message is and like how I said it,

1066
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 4: like just my only thing is do it better?

1067
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Now would you like them to credit you at

1068
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 6: least this?

1069
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1070
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Awesome?

1071
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 4: But I mean how many of us wear clothes that

1072
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 4: was inspired by somebody you saw on Instagram.

1073
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: And we don't credit them And it's like, oh, that

1074
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: fit is crazy.

1075
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 4: I'm a and so yeah, like everybody wants to be recognized,

1076
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 4: everybody wants credit. But for me, I know it's gonna

1077
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: happen because of the level that God has raised my

1078
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: platform too for whatever reason, that somebody's gonna take that stuff,

1079
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: and my prayer is that it helps them the way

1080
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: it helped you.

1081
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw them accuse you of taking some passive

1082
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 5: sermon word for word.

1083
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 3: I didn't listen to it, but I'm like, it's the word.

1084
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: It's the word, bro.

1085
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 4: And if somebody, if somebody's breaking something down in a

1086
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 4: way that makes me understand, Like y'all just said, a

1087
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: lot of this stuff is confusing, a lot of this

1088
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: stuff is we gotta figure it out. So if somebody

1089
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: gets a revelation or gets understanding or it's like oh,

1090
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 4: it's like yes, copy paste, like tell some other people.

1091
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: And this is the other thing that everybody has to remember.

1092
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 4: How you say it will be different because you have

1093
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 4: different oil than them, Like there's a different thing on

1094
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: your life than what they have on their life. I

1095
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 4: think I heard Sarah Jake say it a couple days

1096
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: ago that that like, you can take the recipe, you

1097
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: can take you can take the plans, but when we

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Speaker 4: do it, because it's different, y s and so and so,

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Speaker 4: that's oh, she is a beast. Her and Terrey are

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Speaker 4: doing an amazing job in Dallas, and again it's Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: So I went to their installation service.

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Speaker 4: I didn't preach at my church and went there because

1103
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 4: people need to see this is not about one thing.

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Speaker 2: This is about the Kingdom of God. And so yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: I for everybody.

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Speaker 1: PSA.

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Speaker 4: If you hear pastor Mike prease something or something and

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Speaker 4: you feel like it could help your Bible study or

1109
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 4: your youth group or your big church or little church,

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Speaker 4: you can use that man, help people get to Jesus.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 5: I got one more question. I think that sermon by

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Speaker 5: Sarah James was called get out of your Way. I

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Speaker 5: think that's what it was that was last week, get

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Speaker 5: out of your way? But what's one area in your

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00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 5: life where God is still stretching.

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Speaker 2: Me Jesus still stretching me. What area is He not

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Speaker 2: stretching me?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: I think the one thing that you got to realize

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00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 4: about this walk with crisis is never over until we

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Speaker 4: get to heaven. And a lot of people are looking

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Speaker 4: for a season where it doesn't feel like growth because

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00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 4: growth actually is hard, like it's readjusting.

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Speaker 1: It's all though.

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Speaker 4: So I would say an area that God's still stretching

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Speaker 4: me in is the area of communication with the people

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Speaker 4: I love. Like I know how to communicate really well

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Speaker 4: to masses of people, but the nuance of communicating in

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Speaker 4: the languages that the people I love need, specifically my wife.

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Speaker 4: Me and my wife, we believe in theology and therapy,

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Speaker 4: so we go to therapy and we do intensives every year.

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Speaker 4: This year we've done two already and December eighth, I'll

1134
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Speaker 4: be back again. And these are like four five days straight,

1135
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: three hours a day therapy. And because we got to

1136
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 4: we gotta figure out how we work and then figure

1137
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Speaker 4: out how to change the things that don't work. And

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Speaker 4: I can realize and admit that some of my conversations

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00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: with my wife and people that are around me could

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Speaker 4: have more compassion and have more empathy in them. And

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Speaker 4: that's an area that God stretching me, like he's saying, yet,

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Speaker 4: you said it, but you could be more skillful. And

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Speaker 4: for me, that's such a dig for even me. I

1144
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: live transparent, So I'm saying it out loud and y'all

1145
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 4: can tell it's real, because for somebody who communicates all

1146
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: the time and has a pretty high success rate of

1147
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 4: getting my points across, it's like I have to take

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00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 4: more time to think about how I'm saying something, not

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Speaker 4: just what I want you to hear me say.

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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to figure bro and I can tell

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00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: you not because you sweat you hear me like it's

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Speaker 1: real for me.

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Speaker 4: And the reason that I'm so honest about it is

1154
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 4: because again, God doesn't pless who you pretend to be.

1155
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: He blesses who you really are.

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Speaker 4: And so my goal is to become more skillful at

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00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 4: communicating my heart and not just getting it said, but

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Speaker 4: thinking about how the people I love feel on the

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00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: other side of what I say, because the truth of

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00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 4: the matter is what I say is temporary. How it

1161
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 4: makes you feel that's a lot longer, and I need

1162
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 4: to make sure that I'm not I'm not damaging the

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00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 4: most precious thing in my life. And so yeah, that's

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00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 4: that love you right time.

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Speaker 3: Outside. Y'all know you had a book that dropped in

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00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 3: February too.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, yo, I got a movie. No, no, y'all

1168
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 4: missing everything y'all late. Let me tell y'all was about

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00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 4: to happen. Let me catch you up. We got a

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Speaker 4: brand new movie about to come out called Relationship Goals,

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Speaker 4: the movie with Amazon starring Kelly Rowland and Method Man.

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Speaker 1: What it's based off.

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Speaker 4: My book that I came up here and Mitchell, Yeah, bro,

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Speaker 4: we just finished it. It's coming out February fourth. I'm

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Speaker 4: coming back to do a whole thing.

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Speaker 1: But they just announced the release date.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't talk about it until now, and so but

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Speaker 4: I wrote a thankfully a New York Times best selling

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Speaker 4: book called Relationship Goals, How to Win at Marriage, Dating

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Speaker 4: and Sex.

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Speaker 1: I wrote that in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: That same year, Devon Franklin called me and was like,

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Speaker 4: have you ever thought about this being a movie? I say,

1184
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 4: you know, I'm a man of crazy faith. I had

1185
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 4: already written it out. I had already before you called me.

1186
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 4: The characters, the names, the everything, and uh, it's so crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's happening. Amazon paid me to do the movie and

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00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 4: it comes out on February fourth, right before Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be so wick. Thank you so much, man.

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Speaker 4: And so that's happening. We outside tour, and then Transformation

1191
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 4: Worship just dropped the new album called Faith in the Fire.

1192
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 4: It's on all streaming platforms. It's got some really good

1193
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 4: music on it, and so I want you to go

1194
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 4: check that out. And so yeah, we we outside. So

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Speaker 4: God didn't let it on your heart to let me

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Speaker 4: audition you. You could actually be in Relationship Goals to you. Okay,

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00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 4: all right, so you heard it here.

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Speaker 3: First, make sure all your stars are baptized.

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Speaker 1: All the stars one baptized. Don't miss one.

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Speaker 4: Hey, listen, man, it's progression, not perfect. We need to

1201
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 4: hang out, Yes, we need yeah, because we gotta. You

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00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 4: gotta meet my wife.

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00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: We gotta, yeah, we gotta.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you know, he is a crazy and faith to.

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00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, let's do it. But he's more black.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're praying. Father. I thank you for this day.

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Speaker 4: I thank you for the opportunity to share with my

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00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 4: brothers and sister. I thank you for all the things

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00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 4: that you're doing in each of our lives and all

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Speaker 4: the lives of the listeners today. God, I thank you

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 4: that we all go on a journey of progression. Faith

1212
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 4: is something that we actually know is real, but it's

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00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 4: something we all have to discover. And so I thank

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Speaker 4: you that you would allow everybody that's in this room

1215
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 4: and that's listening to have an experience with you that

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00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 4: would be undeniable.

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Speaker 1: I thank you Father.

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Speaker 4: As people are getting furloughed right now and going through

1219
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 4: situations that are literally unimaginable in America, I thank you,

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00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 4: Father God that you would be peace that their understanding,

1221
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 4: make ways out of no way, do things that no

1222
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 4: man could do.

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00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: Father God. With man, it's impossible, but with God it

1224
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: is possible.

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00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 4: Today, Father God, I'm thinking that all things are working

1226
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 4: together for the good of those who are called and

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00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 4: that love you and Father. If somebody does not know you,

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00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 4: if somebody has been far from you, Father, thank you

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00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: that your love, even through this.

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00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: Interview, is drawing them back home.

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Speaker 4: I thank you for transformation that happen in people's lives,

1232
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: and I think you that people would get to know

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00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 4: the way, the truth and the life Jesus.

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Speaker 1: In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen.

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Speaker 5: Amen.

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Speaker 1: It's love man every time.

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Speaker 3: All right, appreciate y'all.

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00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: Man. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, every day. Ago,

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00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Finish for y'all. Done,