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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, May twenty six, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number one hundred and at eleven. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: latest episode of The Break. We are presented by Geico,

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Speaker 1: and we are alive from the s WBC Mortgage studios

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Speaker 1: at the Star. Got David Amber and uh and Nick

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Speaker 1: here with me, Yes, Nick, Nick here with me. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk some Cowboys football. We gotta catch you

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Speaker 1: guys up on all that happened yesterday. Cowboys are starting

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Speaker 1: their OTA practices. Yesterday it was open to the media,

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Speaker 1: um several players were able to talk to the media.

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Speaker 1: Dave had an opportunity to talk to even more players.

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Speaker 1: So we'll catch you up on all that stuff. And

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Speaker 1: then it was a very hectic day because a lot

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Speaker 1: was going on. PR should have divided things up in

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Speaker 1: several days. I think, but you got shot, you got

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Speaker 1: you got players and players players. That's a slider right

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Speaker 1: across the plate, right off the bat. We're not starting

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Speaker 1: with flashballs or I love it. I love to figure

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Speaker 1: out if if pregnant Amber is spicier than regular Amber,

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably the same same. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: my tolerance level has gone lower. But but no, it

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Speaker 1: was just a lot. It was just a lot. You

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Speaker 1: out a little bit at least the interviews. That was

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Speaker 1: a lot to take in. But it was a lot

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Speaker 1: of information that we got to dissect because there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of different people that talk to a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things that were interesting. Let's start off first,

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Speaker 1: and I was not just in full disclosure, I was

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Speaker 1: not able to attend practice. I had lots of other

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Speaker 1: things going on. You guys all attend to practice. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of this is gonna be me just trying

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Speaker 1: to get answers. I want to know things, and I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping our listeners out there want to know kind of

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Speaker 1: the same things I want to know. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna throw a lot of questions at you guys about

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Speaker 1: different things. And again let's we're gonna start this by

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Speaker 1: prefacing this is OTAs like, obviously, these guys are in

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Speaker 1: what even training camp will be. The level of what

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Speaker 1: of getting some general feelings of things you guys saw

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Speaker 1: what I think is the most important and and fun

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Speaker 1: part of the story. Is you got your quarterback back

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott back at practice. He's out there. Tell me

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Speaker 1: how he looked? Well? He being out there is the

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Speaker 1: brings so much energy just just having him there. That's

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Speaker 1: know when when he's not there, we all saw it

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Speaker 1: to be I am trying to be nice. No, But

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Speaker 1: some some different observations from the latest OTA practice yesterday

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Speaker 1: that you guys were able to witness. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb again. We haven't talked a lot about him.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I was interested in and I

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Speaker 1: noticed this happens a lot with players coming into their

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Speaker 1: second year. Typically going to that first offseason, you tend

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Speaker 1: to see a change in their bodies. They start to

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Speaker 1: get a little bigger, sometimes a little more muscular, sometimes

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Speaker 1: a little leaner, just depending on what the position is.

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Speaker 1: My question for you guys is did you see anything

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Speaker 1: different about Ceedee Lamb? Did you see anything that stood

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Speaker 1: out to you about Ceedee Lamb? Or is he still

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Speaker 1: just the same bad a that he was last season?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he probably he looks like he's

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Speaker 1: been in an NFL weight program for a year, Like

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Speaker 1: I get you know, he looked a little stock here.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this yesterday, like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: way fewer restrictions at practice yesterday. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: was giddy yesterday, like I got to be around the team.

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Speaker 1: I got to be close up at practice. It felt

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Speaker 1: you haven't done that in a year and a half.

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Speaker 1: Even you know, even training camp they made us watch

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Speaker 1: from sixty feet above the field. So yesterday might have

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Speaker 1: been the closest I've ever been to Ceedee Lamb. I've

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Speaker 1: never met the guy introduce your well, I didn't see him.

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Speaker 1: He didn't for whatever reason, he didn't come by. I

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Speaker 1: think I saw everybody else on the roster, but not him.

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Speaker 1: You were looking forward to that too. It's fine, but

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Speaker 1: I mean he looks stocky. He looks like he's probably

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Speaker 1: put on some muscle. I don't want to just go

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Speaker 1: overboard and be like, oh he's so yoked like he's

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Speaker 1: looks slufer Igno. Yeah, the shape of his but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he looks like he's in shape. And um,

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Speaker 1: you know, Amari took the day off yesterday and he

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Speaker 1: had a foot, he had a knee scope. I think

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Speaker 1: like he way back in like February. He seems like

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Speaker 1: another guy that they're gonna be very cautious with, which

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Speaker 1: is fine by me. But you know, CD was CD

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Speaker 1: was kind of leading the show yesterday, which I thought

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Speaker 1: was especially interesting because Michael Gallup is is more you know,

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Speaker 1: he's more senior than he is, which I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: make any drama there, but like CD was sort of

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Speaker 1: leading the group, doing the drills first and kind of

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Speaker 1: take It seemed like he was taking charge. To me,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember him doing anything nuts. He actually the

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Speaker 1: pick I mentioned Dak got picked off trying to throw

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Speaker 1: to him. Deante Burton made the play, which how many

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Speaker 1: people listening to this even remember that name? But um

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Speaker 1: so I'm nothing insane, But he looks he looks like

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Speaker 1: CD yeah, you know Deontay Burton, just just by you

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Speaker 1: mentioning that, I kind of I looked at the broster

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Speaker 1: at one point because before he made the pick, he

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Speaker 1: almost made another play, and I was like, thirty three,

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Speaker 1: it's big looking, corner, safe, corner, safety type guy. And

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Speaker 1: I bet you, even though Burton will probably not make

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Speaker 1: the team, knowing what dan Quinn likes out of his

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Speaker 1: defensive backs, he was like, Okay, who's this guy Burton?

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Speaker 1: And they're like, he's a safety. Corners like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: he's a corner. Like he looks exactly like you would want,

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Speaker 1: like he wants to play now is he good enough?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He's kind of bounced around for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years, but prototype wise, Deontay Burton looked exactly

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Speaker 1: the type of guy that dan Quinn wants as his cornerback.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what is he six I would Burton,

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Speaker 1: I would say six two two twenty five. I'll just say,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you have an ag, but I

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Speaker 1: just know six two two ten. Jordan Lewis stands out

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Speaker 1: like a sore thumb. We'll say that, we'll say that

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Speaker 1: I love him though, but yeah, so well, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean we saw that they were basically looking like we

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Speaker 1: gotta type. They definitely gotta type when it comes to

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Speaker 1: court I do. I actually got that tight. But I

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Speaker 1: had a chance to catch up with Jordan though, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's interesting because like dan Quinn was here

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Speaker 1: when they offered him that contract, and I know some

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Speaker 1: degree they needed to cover themselves and make sure that

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Speaker 1: they had starters. But and I asked Jordan, I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, for you to be willing to resign here,

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Speaker 1: they probably had to. You know, you, I would assume

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Speaker 1: you would want some assurance that you're going to have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity and probably just not immediately be relegated to

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Speaker 1: like the fifth string on the bench. He was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like you know, chances to make plays and get on

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Speaker 1: the field is what it's all about. And I definitely

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Speaker 1: took that into consideration. So and we'll get it. You know.

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Speaker 1: I hate to do the whole like first string second

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Speaker 1: string thing and training in OTAs, especially when there's injured guys.

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Speaker 1: But I will say probably the most constant thing at

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Speaker 1: the entire practice was the first three cornerbacks like Kelvin

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00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: Joseph got some reps and Nashan Wright mixed in, but

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Speaker 1: like when the big dogs were out there, it was

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Speaker 1: Anthony Brown and Trayvon Diggs on the outside with Jordan

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Speaker 1: in the slot like damn near every time, and so

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Speaker 1: not saying that's what it'll be when training camp ends,

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Speaker 1: but that seems to be their preferred situation until otherwise notified.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's also maybe a function you mentioned

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Speaker 1: earlier that you saw that rookies were out there together

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Speaker 1: a lot. You think they may also be a part

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Speaker 1: of that, where where there's kind of keeping the let

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Speaker 1: let the vets be out there together, Let's keep the

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Speaker 1: rookies just watching while the vets are out there for

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Speaker 1: a while, and then maybe a little later or certainly

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Speaker 1: by training camp, you start mixing the note I feel

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Speaker 1: like I remember Joseph getting in there with Diggs, but

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Speaker 1: that's anecdotal. Maybe I'm wrong, so but yeah, no, I

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Speaker 1: think there's something to that. It's like letting the young

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Speaker 1: guys work together and not overwhelm them too much. If

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Speaker 1: he would have caught it, we would have probably not

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Speaker 1: spent thirty minutes of the show without talking about Sean

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Speaker 1: right because he made a play that looked like I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was a it was your Dion Sanders type break

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Speaker 1: on the ball picket and would have been a touchdown

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Speaker 1: the other way. He dropped it though, oh he dropped it.

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Speaker 1: But I mean the break like, you know, good show.

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Speaker 1: But the break that he made on the play, he

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Speaker 1: it was great. It was a great play and then

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Speaker 1: of course it much better if you dropped it then

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Speaker 1: good did he hear the whole That's why you play

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Speaker 1: corner in that kind of stuff more, right, But I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying it was it was encouraging. I thought, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're asking, and again it's all weighted right,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not impressed by I'm not impressed by CD

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Speaker 1: unless he does something like the Vikings catch, you know,

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Speaker 1: like that, the expectation and the stuff we saw him

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Speaker 1: do a training camp all last summer. Um. But so

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Speaker 1: with weighing expectations like Nashan right and Reggie Robinson caught

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Speaker 1: my eye several times. Reggie did. Reggie had two breaks

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Speaker 1: like he he broke up and it was against here,

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Speaker 1: I got my notes right here. It was against better players. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's one of the guy that took He stole Semi

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Speaker 1: Fijoko's lunch money. He just reached right in there and

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00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: punched it out. I'm not going to talk about Simi

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Speaker 1: right now. He's he's But that goes back to the

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Speaker 1: Jaalen thing, like okay, like he you know, he got

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Speaker 1: bullied a little bit at his second OTA as a

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick, like just that day. Like again, I've heard, well,

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Speaker 1: I've heard people talk last week that he didn't look great,

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Speaker 1: and then I heard it again yesterday he didn't look great.

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Speaker 1: Help when you start saying does he look great? Like

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Speaker 1: it's a learning curve, man, It's a steep learning I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's it depends who you're talking about, because

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Speaker 1: something like a guy like him, you haven't seen him

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Speaker 1: and he's new, right, so you're like, okay, you go,

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Speaker 1: you gotta give him some time. And I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to bring back Jaalen into the conversation. But

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Speaker 1: then it's different when you're looking at a guy like

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Speaker 1: that yet that you've seen in the past, so you

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Speaker 1: have a different Like they've said, expectations, It's all about expectations,

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Speaker 1: So you know, the two corner and talking about defensive backs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you're watching OTAs, it can get kind

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Speaker 1: of boring. It's exciting because you're getting to watch football

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Speaker 1: and the veterans and the rookies together. But then he's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not really full contact or anything, but

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Speaker 1: they made it excited. He's like, oh, okay, those with

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Speaker 1: those plays. You're like, okay, okay, remember getting some action

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Speaker 1: eat like Nashan, right, he did it twice and like,

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Speaker 1: you know, do it once and you're like, whoa, okay

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Speaker 1: and then whole okay, Nashan. Reggie did the same thing. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it was Dak. Dak was looking for Aaron Parker

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Speaker 1: on a flag route to the sideline, you know, eighteen

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Speaker 1: yards downfield, and Reggie just dove and kind of poked it,

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Speaker 1: poked it away from over his shoulder. It was a

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Speaker 1: great play it and it was it was a good

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Speaker 1: throw by Dak too, Like Reggie Robinson just made a

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Speaker 1: great play. So, and going back to your point about Fojoko,

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Speaker 1: that was Reggie last year. We're like, oh, they were

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Speaker 1: excited about this guy and he looks awful and so

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Speaker 1: for him to you know, for him to flash in

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Speaker 1: the first opportunity that were available to see him was

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Speaker 1: that was exciting. I will tell you this, and I

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Speaker 1: know it's way too early to be him doing this,

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Speaker 1: but I am really starting to wonder if we're gonna

636
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Speaker 1: look back here at a few years and we're gonna

637
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: say Nashan Wright is a better player than Calvin Joseph.

638
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: And I know, way early. I just think I think

639
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna I look at it like this. Those coaches

640
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: are gonna have every reason to want Nashan Right to

641
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: succeed because he fits the mold of what they really want.

642
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: And so if they're even, Like if if they come

643
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: out and they're even and Right, isn't clearly better. I

644
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: think Nashan is going to be the guy that gets

645
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: the opportunities. So don't I don't know, I don't. I'm

646
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: not saying that you're wrong, because like, nobody knows how

647
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: any of these guys are going to pan out. That's

648
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: what makes it fun. But I just love the way

649
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: that you're like, I want to get to ahead of myself,

650
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: but but they'll be he's better, will I mean, if

651
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: you finish that and you said, I don't want to

652
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: get ahead of myself, but maybe Nishan Right or Nashan Right,

653
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 1: maybe he's going to be the third corner in the

654
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: history of the NFL that's six four and taller. That's good,

655
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, because there's there's there's a lot there like two.

656
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I think the guy. I think

657
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: there was a guy in Miami, Sean Smith maybe and

658
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: uh am I missing someone Smith that big. I remember

659
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: him from that big. I mean, but like Bobby Taylor

660
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: from the Eagles was like sixth was good though. Oh yeah, okay,

661
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: I thought you're saying I mean, and I'm just saying,

662
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: there's just a reason why guys that tall aren't cornerbacks.

663
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: It's just hard. T was Troy Vincent because they were

664
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: together and Troy was like he was a taller corner.

665
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: He wasn't really think he was that tall. He was

666
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: probably like six two six three out right. Yeah again,

667
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: it's not I mean, it's just he's tall and linky.

668
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: He looks like Pat Watkins from back in the day.

669
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah we went back. Yeah, Troy Vincent's listed at six

670
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: one one. I get Nick's point, and there's just not

671
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: many of them. He looks he looks really fluid moving

672
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: in a straight line. If you watch his tape, it's

673
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: open space, which that makes sense. Open space is a

674
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: problem for him. So it's it's a very small sample size,

675
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: but considering the amount of debate and outrage about that pick,

676
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: it was funny and fun that he looked really good

677
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: and his first opportunity in front of media. Yeah, and

678
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: then the same thing. You know, I heard some similar

679
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: things last week in the rookie camp about him, like, yo, wow,

680
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: he's kind of looks better I thought he would look.

681
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: So again, he's just piquing my interest. And you know,

682
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: so that's kind of the fear of doing these kind

683
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: of shows. Sometimes you get out there and you just

684
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: talk about things that that kind of pique your interest

685
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: and then before you know what, everybody's like, well, you

686
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: said Nashan was gonna be great, and it's just like

687
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: that's just what I'm starting to kind of okay, Like

688
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if it's boring radio, but it's all right

689
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: to sit on the fence for a little while. Yeah. Well,

690
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: the thing is is that, you know, we talk about

691
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: like that play and then Nahan right broke on the ball.

692
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: He almost picked it, he didn't, but it was it

693
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: was good. But and I don't I can't even tell

694
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: you the answer this, but like what you also have

695
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: to factor in is what was the path, what did

696
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: the past look like? Well, who did it come from?

697
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: And how long did the quarterbacks stare down the receiver

698
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: be like, I'm throwing it to you and then you know,

699
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: so we don't factor at all in it was Ben

700
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: Denucci throwing to an undrafted rookie running back in the flat.

701
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: Just so we're clear if I don't know, so don't

702
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: watery down. Let's not let's just enjoy what we saw. Evans,

703
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's not It's not what I was doing there.

704
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: I had my homes and then I went Tampa. You'll

705
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: have to play them both. So I'm just killing all

706
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: the fun and you know, and you have to in

707
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: week five is gonna be like what were we doing?

708
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: Saying these guys were good like? And then I catch hell,

709
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: that's why I control because of you, because you created

710
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: cow bites. Cow bites the thirty second clip that too,

711
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: and it's like did I say that? Did I say?

712
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden we got our team in

713
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: the back Chris Beam and guys be like, oh, yes

714
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: you did. You're like, hey, it's cow bites. I'm just

715
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: wanting I want as clear a picture as possible so

716
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: that people aren't in my mentions demanding why I was

717
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: why I sold them a bill of good I get that.

718
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: I get that honestly. Again, Like I said, that's the

719
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: that's the hard part of doing shows like this. You

720
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: say out loud what normally you just think to yourself,

721
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: or you say to a friend like, hey, man, I'm

722
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: wondering about like this guy might actually be better than

723
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: we thought, you know, and then you get painted with

724
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: that brush forever. Yeah, you're that guy forever. All right,

725
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: let's jump on. I want to talk a little bit

726
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: about the center position. Can I can I ask something

727
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: real quick. It's something that I keep forgetting every time

728
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: and when, and it reminded me of when Dave was

729
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: talking about Jordan Lewis and insurance and insurance and the

730
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: Joe Looney. I keep forgetting about him, and I'm always like, Okay,

731
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: what was the deal with him? What happened with him? Well?

732
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: I know he hasn't signed with any other team. Why

733
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: is he still sitting out there? I don't know if

734
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: you guys have any or unique If you have any,

735
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's a wonderful I mean, I get the

736
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: guys that they currently No, No, I don't. I don't

737
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: know exactly, but I know if you go to the

738
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: other side of that page, the numerical aside, Uh, you

739
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: know in that order, Uh, they got four or five

740
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: guys with two numbers out there, you know, four or

741
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: five guys on double numbers. But look at number seventy three.

742
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: There's number seventy three on that roster. I don't see

743
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: seventy three, right, And I think there's something to be

744
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: said for that. I think so too. And I think

745
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: have you heard that, because it's just a guess on

746
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: my part is really just a guess. But I think

747
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: that it's like, we're gonna let these guys see and

748
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: we all we know what Looney is if we need them.

749
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: What do they love to say? Like create competition, paper

750
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: over the holes in their eye? They didn't do that

751
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: with Center. It's just it's the Tyler Biada Show. And

752
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: I like, I know Connor McGovern has done it too,

753
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: was a lot. So that's what I was gonna say it, Like,

754
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, all through the offseason, it's like, well, Connor

755
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: McGovern can do it, and and Connor Williams has done that,

756
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: and during you know McCarthy does the quarterback school Beotish, Um,

757
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't want it wasn't McGovern but Beotish and Connor

758
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: Williams was actually snapping during the quarterback school and I

759
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that's really interesting. But then we get

760
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: into team portion and Matt FARNIOK, the last pick was

761
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: the first team center, and like it. As far as

762
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: I'm aware, Tyler Beiodish is fine because he he was

763
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: like he was. He was in the offensive line drills

764
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: like I think the other offensive linemen and maybe some

765
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: of the rehab guys were working on stances and stuff

766
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: during the team periods while farneyoc is running with Dak

767
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: which kind of blew me away. No disrespect to Matt FARNIOK.

768
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: And he did he played center at Nebraska, so it's

769
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: not completely out of left field a little A little bit, yeah,

770
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: I think one. I think he made one start at center,

771
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: start in a few other games. Um, but that it

772
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: just kind of blew me away, and you think about it,

773
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: you're just it's weird to me that that there's not

774
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: like a true center and then to see if be

775
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: honest doesn't really and I don't want to overreact to

776
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: one day of OTAs, but like he I would assume,

777
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: be honest, would just be the first team center all

778
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 1: the time, like he's the guy. He needs to work

779
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: with that as much as possible, And that's not what

780
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: was happening. So it's it's interesting, and I wonder, I

781
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: wonder if they're kind of like, if we really don't

782
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: feel good about this by the time, you know, by

783
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: the time we're getting ready to go to Oxnard, we

784
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: can call Joe. It's just a guess. That's kind of

785
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: what I agree. I mean, I guess that too. And

786
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if the leave it his jersey number

787
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: open is something, But I think it might have something

788
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that, you know, he thought

789
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: he might be coming back, and I was told, I

790
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: was told the second or third day of free agency

791
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: that Looney that could happen this week. So there were

792
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: talks of him coming back, he thought he was, and

793
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: it just didn't materialize. And now here we are. Then

794
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: you get closer to the draft, You're like, let's just

795
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: see what happens in the draft. Now, let's see what

796
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: happens in OTAs. But I think he's will sit there.

797
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: They haven't lost his number. I can just picture, you know,

798
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: with the amount, with the amount that Stephen Jones has

799
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: talked about their cap situation. I can just picture him

800
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: being like, how much how much Joe want? Oh? Dan like,

801
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: let's let's see what we got here and we can

802
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: maybe we'll call. Maybe that price comes down, right. I

803
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, even if not with the Cowboys,

804
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: it's just crazy to me to think that he's still

805
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: sitting out there starting center with guard capability. He is

806
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: a valuable game day guy. Um, but no, I was

807
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: just gonna say that might also be because he's like,

808
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: I really want to stay in Dallas. I want to

809
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: wait it out and see what happens there. Because I

810
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: think if he really wanted to go get a one

811
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: year deal from somebody, there's a team out there that

812
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: would have given him a one year deal. Yeah. I

813
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: don't think there's any reason to believe that that's not

814
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: the case. So I think this might also signal that

815
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: he wants to be here and he's just kinda waited

816
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: out the Cowboys, gonna wait it out and see what happens.

817
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: That it just it is so obviously opposite of what

818
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: they us try to do that they're just like, yeah,

819
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: we got this guy we drafted on day three last

820
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: year and not a lot else. Well, I you know,

821
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what's been said behind closed doors, but

822
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: I would go to the guy that you paid forty

823
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: million dollars a year or two and I'd be like, Hey,

824
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: this is the guy that gives you the ball, and

825
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: this is the guy that blocks right in front of

826
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: you and makes the calls to make sure the other

827
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: guys block the right guy. Who do you want? I

828
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: mean that you can't say that about a lot of positions,

829
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: but with him, and you're trying to protect him like

830
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: I would put dex. I would way that did because

831
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: I because I did hear that. The reason why Beards

832
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: didn't play a lot in the second half of the

833
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: year over Looney was because of Andy Dalton, because Andy

834
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: Dalton wasn't comfortable with Beardish just shot gun snaps. They

835
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: were too erratic, and he had to keep his eyes.

836
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: He had to get his eyes off of the defense

837
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: and under the ball because they were a little bit

838
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: We don't we don't think of it all the time,

839
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: but the ball here or here, we just know we're

840
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: just looking down. We look up and the guys got

841
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: the ball. But Andy Dalton he couldn't see. He couldn't.

842
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, there would be blitz Is coming

843
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, next thing, you know, he's gotta

844
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: get the ball down here. Looney was a little bit

845
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: better with it. And you know, Dalton I think preferred that.

846
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he said. He said, don't you know,

847
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Speaker 1: he just would prefer. So that's something Bash has to

848
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: work on this offseasons. Those shotgun snaps have to be

849
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Speaker 1: right here ready, which and I'm the guy that already

850
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: said don't make too much of whose first things string,

851
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,719
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852
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,600
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853
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Speaker 1: as much as possible. We mean, it seems like it

854
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: would make sense. So it's weird. It's weird. I got

855
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856
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860
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905
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: so we get this show done and then it will

906
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: be a nice little couple of days here, a few days.

907
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna be out for the next three days,

908
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: so be good. Yeah, you're gonna get some time. Sure, Amber,

909
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: you're getting some time. When when do we get off?

910
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: The company's given us Monday, but yeah, but if you

911
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: want a little extra time past Monday, take a little

912
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: extra time, Dave, I'm going home tomorrow night. Yeah, you

913
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: go and see forever. I will thank you. Can you

914
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: bring back some food from new while? I will try,

915
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: Like that would be great. I will try. I really

916
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Always say the same thing, and it never happens.

917
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: I know, he never brings any food back. But it's

918
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: a lot of work. No, it is a lot of work.

919
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of work. You just put it in

920
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: a container and bring it like back, just bring some

921
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: seasoning and then cook it. Over here. Maybe that but

922
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: seasoning or something. But like you didn't bring home some food.

923
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm not gonna bring you. You're the

924
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: pickiest eater ever if it isn't right, like I mean, so,

925
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: I can't imagine coming in a day's car back I'm flying.

926
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: But I'm not a picky eater. I'm really not. I

927
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: know what I like. OK, whatever you say, I know

928
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: what I like. Whatever you stuff, maybe it's not yeah,

929
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: not picky. You just like it prepared. Yeah, like I

930
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: assuming way, I like it prepared. But I assume everybody

931
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: that cooks in New Orleans knows what they're doing, because

932
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: that's a place where you don't find bad food very often.

933
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: You really don't know. So Wednesday night Saints game right

934
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, me cannot wait. I cannot wait. All right,

935
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about de Moneycauz because it

936
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: sounds like from from everything I've heard, you guys can

937
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: can jump in here wherever you want to jump in.

938
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: But from what I heard, he probably if you had

939
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: one player you want to identify as the standout guy

940
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are talking about, he would

941
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: be that. Tell me what you saw, Well, it's just

942
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: for me, it's just a baseline of where the guy is.

943
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: If he's a basketball player that's coming off an injury

944
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: and he does an alley dunk right off the bat,

945
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, that's what he can do. Now, that

946
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that he's going to do it all the time,

947
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: but what can he do? Where's he health wise? We

948
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: didn't know, and he made a playoff that you know, um,

949
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: Dave describe it, but he made a play that just

950
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: lets you know. Okay, I didn't know he was honestly

951
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: didn't know he was going to be out there and

952
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: he was actually, yeah, I don't I don't remember him

953
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: making a specific play, to be honest. Okay, you you

954
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: do it, Okay, Um, okay, I'm sorry. I thought I

955
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: thought we talked about it. I guess it was Rob,

956
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 1: but you and I talked about yeah maybe so, um,

957
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: guys look like, um no, he just he made a play.

958
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: It was and it was just one of those you know,

959
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: the play breaks down the quarterbacks looking down the field

960
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: and then decides to check it to the running back

961
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: out in the flat, which was because he's responsibility as

962
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: well keeping his eyes and it was a Rico dattle

963
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: out of the flat right when he caught it boom,

964
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: because he was there. He made a cut to get

965
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: there and to be right there on you know, and

966
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: the of course he makes the sound oh you know,

967
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: I got you and all that. Who knows who would

968
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: have won the battle, but the whole, the whole sideline erupted.

969
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: And whether or not that was just a great play

970
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 1: by a defensive back or some of them know, Hey,

971
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: this guy's coming back from an achilles injury. Everybody knows

972
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: who's coming back from an Achilles injury. I mean, that

973
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: is the kiss of death. Nobody wants to hear that word.

974
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to do, especially as a safety who has

975
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: the back pedal and then cut, plant, cut go. He

976
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: did it? Is he does that mean he's back? I mean,

977
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he made a play that I

978
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: didn't think he could make. I didn't think he was

979
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: going to practice it. I didn't think he could make

980
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: that play. In May, I was shocked when I saw

981
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: him get on the field and play. Shocked Blake Jarwin

982
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: towards ACL in Week one. That's widely regarded as in

983
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: this day and age, an easier injury to come back

984
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: from he didn't do anything yesterday. Demonte Kazi tore his

985
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: achilles in week five, so like a month later and

986
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: he's out here in May and like not just a

987
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: little bit, like he was out there a lot. Him

988
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: and Jayron Curse and Donovan Wilson mixed in. Those three

989
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: were like the predominant first group out. I would bet

990
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: I would bet Cazi had thirty five reps or so

991
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: between seven on seven and Team and all. I could

992
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: not believe it. And now that you describe that, I

993
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: kind of remember it, but just in just him being

994
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: out and yeah, cutting I did. Yeah, super nice guy.

995
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: He was supposed to talk to the whole media, but

996
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: he had to go pick up his kid from school,

997
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: I think or something, so he had to but like

998
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: he he gave me five minutes. I said that. I

999
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: was like, you know, people are a lot of people

1000
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: on outside are surprised to see you out there. And

1001
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: he's like, oh yeah, I know. Like he was like,

1002
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: I know exactly what people say about achilles injuries and

1003
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and he you know, he's he was

1004
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: talking you know, what a what a terrible, what an

1005
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 1: awful situation to be in a contract year and suffer

1006
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: that injury. He was like, yeah, he's like I learned.

1007
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: I learned a lot about like the real nature of

1008
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: this business, like not knowing where I'm going to be,

1009
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: not knowing if you know, how am I going to

1010
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: come back? Who's gonna want me? Uh? He said it

1011
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: was a big, big relief to get a contract. Did

1012
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: you ask him if he's running too Zeke? Yet? I

1013
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: did not. I did not, and I don't think I

1014
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: want to trying to make good impressions. Um if you

1015
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: remember Zeken demolish, Yeah, yeah, kind of laid there for

1016
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: which I will say, I'm you know, literally ran into

1017
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: Zeke lately. Yeah, yeah, I don't mean like ran into

1018
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: in the conversation literally got I made a joke. I

1019
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: made a joke at Jordan's expense earlier, and I'll say that,

1020
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: which you know, we we made a big and rightfully

1021
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: so we made a big deal about how you know

1022
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: all these tall guys, all these six three six four

1023
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: corners and dan Quinn has a type. Dan Quinn again,

1024
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: he had to have been in involved in resigning Jordan Lewis.

1025
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: He was definitely involved in bringing Kazi here, and Kazi

1026
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: is small. He's a small guy like there there are

1027
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: not very many NFL players that where I'm like really

1028
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: looking idun one four. That's like, that's where I'm not.

1029
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to if he's five to eleven, I don't.

1030
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: I don't think he's five eleven. Maybe I'm maybe I'm

1031
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: misremembering this, Like no, I probably not. And like I mean,

1032
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: i'd i'd die as an exaggeration. I mean he was

1033
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: taller than me, but like it felt like I felt normal,

1034
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: not just like oh hey, Zach Martin, like nice to

1035
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: reach up and take a full extension on your arm

1036
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: for the micrap like he he felt like a normal

1037
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: sized person to me. Whereat you know. And then I

1038
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, Nashan writes walking by and just swing an

1039
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: eight foot long arms receivers like the rookie But I

1040
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: was down there for rookie Minicamp and all the wide

1041
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: receivers were walking by. I was like the Mavericks would

1042
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: have a hard time with this group. I mean, like

1043
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: they well not last night. You know they're good, but

1044
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: um just tall tall like the group and you know,

1045
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of which surprised me about the

1046
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: receiver they did sign that Johnny Dixon. Oh yeah, um

1047
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: he was. He was one of the receivers from the

1048
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: workout with Brett Hunley, um, and he stood out I

1049
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: guess more of it than Hunley. But if we have time,

1050
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: can I mention this about the backup quarterback. I don't.

1051
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a huge problem. I'm i'd be okay.

1052
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 1: I mean Garrett Gilbert, I'm okay there, I really am.

1053
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: And I and they've looked, they looked around, and they

1054
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: they might still you know, sign a guy. But based

1055
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: off what we saw from Dak And I think he's

1056
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. And I think Garrett Gilbert is gonna

1057
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: be fine. I've been maintaining since last year when he

1058
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: played in that game. I know that it didn't end

1059
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: up the way the Cowboys wanted, but I thought he

1060
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: played a pretty good game all things being considered with

1061
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: you know, he got here and within a week he's

1062
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: playing football at quarterback and whose quarter Like everything about it,

1063
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: I said, I want to see more from that guy,

1064
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: like I think Garrett Gilbert can be a pretty good

1065
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: backup option for this team and h and so I'm

1066
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm a little less concerned about that as well as

1067
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: you like I'm in the same boat with you on that.

1068
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: It's it's a mixed because I sort of agree. I

1069
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: would love I think you could upgrade the position, but

1070
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: not right now, like unless I'm out there is the problem.

1071
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: Unless somebody gets cut, or if you want to try

1072
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: to trade for like a gardener Menshew can't trade for

1073
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: Nick Foles. I think that's way too much money, Like

1074
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: he's got too much on his contract. But like, I mean,

1075
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: I would have signed Blake Bortles before he went to

1076
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I mean, you can say what you will

1077
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: about Blake Bortles, but he's started a lot more games

1078
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: than Garret Gilbert. But I think Garrett Gilbert's just as good,

1079
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: if not better than what is available to them right now.

1080
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: And quite honestly, I look at a guy like him

1081
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'd rather have him over Bortles, because

1082
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: what I know about Bortles, they start a lot of games.

1083
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: We can't had a lot of production, and I think

1084
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: Garret Gilbert probably is at the worst. I think Gilbert

1085
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: is a similar quarterback, you know, I don't I don't

1086
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: know that that Bortles is. It is a much better

1087
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: quarterback than where Garret Gilbert is I'll take my chances

1088
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: that a guy I just what I wanted to backup

1089
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: is somebody who's like been there and done that. And

1090
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, you know he's I don't He's started at

1091
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: least like sixty games. He took a seam to a championship, right,

1092
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: and then you you know the same thing you just

1093
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,959
Speaker 1: said about Garrett Gilbert, like put Bortles, give him Zeke

1094
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: and a healthy offensive line and this receiver corps. Like

1095
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: I can talk myself into that, and I think I

1096
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: think you can argue both sides of that. Um. I

1097
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: leaned towards the guy as a backup that will keep

1098
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: himself ready and stays ready all the time. And I

1099
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: don't have It's a small sample size with Gilbert, but

1100
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: we did see it. He I mean he was he

1101
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: was new to everything. And another guy that you talked

1102
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: to yesterday, Dave and and and Garrett, Yeah, and asked

1103
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: him about he was really impressive to him. Honestly, he

1104
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: he's you look at eye with him. No, he's tall,

1105
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: that's that's like Gret Gilbert. Yeah, is Demante because he's

1106
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: definitely taller than me too, because everybody is. But it's

1107
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: just yeah, you spend enough time talking to guys that

1108
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: are six, two, three, four, five and six. When somebody

1109
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: who's five to ten comes along, you're just like, oh,

1110
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: I want to kind of like me, I want to

1111
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: see that video again before you start to working here.

1112
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: I was in Anthony Davis. I don't think the video

1113
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: of me interviewing Anthony Davis exists anymore. But I covered

1114
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: a yeah, seven fo I covered. I covered the SEC

1115
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: Tournament the year that that Kentucky team was amazing, and

1116
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: I so I interviewed all those guys for ESPN and

1117
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, Michael kid Gilchrist, and I mean it's just ridiculous,

1118
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm not exaggerating, like I'm holding the mic like that. No, yeah,

1119
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works with seven footage. And

1120
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: I think I've finally gotten over it a little bit.

1121
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: But like back then, I was definitely like it felt

1122
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: emasculating to like stand on a stool or something like that.

1123
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I don't want to do that,

1124
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: Like what I'm like, I'll get on a ladder. I mean, well,

1125
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: it's just it just looks right exactly. It's not even

1126
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: about being embarras like it just looks bad when you

1127
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: have to like do this to talk to you guys.

1128
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're somewhere out there. There's some grainy video

1129
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: of me talking to Kentucky basketball players and it looks

1130
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: really bad. So awesome. Hey, before we end the show,

1131
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: I do need to quickly talk about some some changes

1132
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: to numbers. There were a couple of guys who have

1133
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: changed their numbers. Only one of them. Only one of them,

1134
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, as decided to move from fifty four to

1135
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: the number nine, which has some people up in arms

1136
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: about it. Um, I'll just open it up and let

1137
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: you guys give me your thoughts on the move number

1138
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: one and then number two, how people are responding to

1139
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: it from what you've seen, and I'm sure people have

1140
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: been on your in your mentions and and said things.

1141
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: So I'd love to hear from you guys what your

1142
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: thoughts are there. If Jalen Smith was better, if football,

1143
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: everybody would care, That's my take. I mean, I think

1144
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: it's uh. I think it's weird that a guy who

1145
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to have a lot of job security would

1146
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: be willing to pay that much money just to wear

1147
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: that number this year. I mean it is my belief

1148
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: that if he doesn't have a better season he might

1149
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: he probably won't be here next year. And so for

1150
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: him to willingly part with that much money just to

1151
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: wear nine, I wouldn't do it, but we've known for

1152
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: a long time. Nine means a lot to him, Like

1153
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: he tweeted when he got fifty four that part of

1154
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: the reason for it was that five and four out

1155
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: up to be nine. Like, for whatever reason, it's very

1156
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: important to him. It's his money, like it or not.

1157
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: He's one of the established players on this team and

1158
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: he wanted to do it. And clearly Jerry Jones, probably

1159
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: because he was getting part of it at least, is

1160
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: that he's getting a lot of money back in exchange

1161
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: for it. And also, Jalen doesn't play quarterback. I just

1162
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: don't care. And I think people really only care because

1163
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: Jalen didn't play well last year. If he was coming

1164
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: off an All Pro season, people would think it was awesome,

1165
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: you know. Speaking of Joe Looney, Joe Looney wears the

1166
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: number of the one of Nick says the best player

1167
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: in Cowboys history. But people like Joe definitely top three,

1168
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 1: people like Joe Louis, so nobody cares that he's wearing

1169
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: Larry Allen's number. Chuck Howley and Randy White have better

1170
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: cowboy legacies than Tony Romo. Yes, and nobody was talking

1171
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: about this at all, but you know, people are, you know,

1172
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: nostalgic and sad about the way Romo's career ended and

1173
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith had a bad season, and so people are

1174
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: mad about it. I probably wouldn't have done it, mainly

1175
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 1: because it's a really expensive thing to do, but if

1176
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: it makes him happy, more power to him. Yeah. I

1177
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: was telling Nick before we went on the air. I

1178
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: was like, what you don't know is I know a

1179
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are pretty superstitious, and this could

1180
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: be one of those things where he's just like, look,

1181
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: give me my number back, Like that number matters to me,

1182
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: It makes me feel a certain way. And in a

1183
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: year where there are a lot of different things coming

1184
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: at me and I'm talking about different new players that

1185
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: are kind of in his space, now, I need to

1186
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: be at my very best and he may be like

1187
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: this gives him that extra superpower. Like again, superstitions are

1188
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: never logical, but people have them, and uh, and I can't.

1189
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: I can't, for the life of me understand why you'd

1190
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: be willing to pay all that money for it. So

1191
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: the only thing I can't think is that maybe it's

1192
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: just the significance of the number. The number just Madiston.

1193
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, the number maddist him, and he's willing

1194
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: to do it because the number maddist him. Yeah, do

1195
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: you have something you want looking for a quote? I

1196
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: looked for something he said yesterday ahead. I don't know

1197
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: if you were looking at quote from him, it was

1198
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: I was looking at a fan quote. I just thought

1199
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: said it perfectly, and and I it was like, well,

1200
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: we've all said but it was like in a quick

1201
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty characters, was just like, hey, I'm

1202
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: pulling for you. But like, you know, it was basically just,

1203
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, you should be more worried about the fact

1204
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: that they they got four linebackers to do your job,

1205
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, like, I hope it works out, but you

1206
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money to change into a number

1207
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: when you don't seem to be I mean, play better,

1208
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: just be a better player, and you don't seem like

1209
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: worried that they got Parsons. Oh they got this guy

1210
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: fell in their lap. They got to get another linebacker.

1211
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you're just worried about the wrong stuff.

1212
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: But do you honestly, the way I look at that is,

1213
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Jalen is one that probably looks at

1214
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: all those things and is all that worried about it.

1215
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about it. No, seriously, You're talking

1216
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: about a guy that has overcome what most people thought

1217
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: he couldn't overcome it, And I'm not saying that. So

1218
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: it's about It's about perspective. I think he looks at

1219
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: it and says, Okay, challenge accepted. I'm good with the challenge.

1220
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: Do you bring in all these guys, I'm still gonna

1221
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: be the one stand at the end of the day.

1222
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: I honestly believe what I know of him that fits

1223
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: like he does not see that as a problem. He

1224
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: sees that as a challenge and he's going to be Okay,

1225
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to buy my tongue here, But why would

1226
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: you just start doing that? Well, I just you know,

1227
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't I don't measure the things that come

1228
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: out of my mouth and how I saying I might

1229
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: regret it later or whatever. But the thing is with him, Okay, yes, great, accomplishment.

1230
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: You came out and everyone respects that, and it's a

1231
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: great accomplishment, it is. But don't be walking around or

1232
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: acting around like you're this badass linebacker playing for the Cowboys,

1233
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: because you're not. And there are certain things and I

1234
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: try not to judge a player off the field or

1235
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: personality because that's not our job. Really. Our job is

1236
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: to judge a player about what they do on the field.

1237
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: But the thing is he brings that on the field.

1238
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: And I've seen situations where the Cowboys were sucking on

1239
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: defense yesterday, last year, last year, and like, for example,

1240
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: you get these defensive players and I remember I sent

1241
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: you guys a clip of it that I think it

1242
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: was the Marcus Lawrence yelling at everyone and just kind

1243
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: of getting everyone hyped up and you know, like we

1244
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: gotta do better. Jyalen is the only one walking next

1245
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: to it, like la la la la la. It doesn't

1246
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: apply to him at all whatsoever. And the assistant manager

1247
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: that the manager was going off on the Yeah he's

1248
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: over there like laughing or smiling when he in reality,

1249
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: it was like I think he's talking to you, yeah exactly,

1250
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: And things like that is what makes me boil a

1251
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: little bit and makes me so upset. And going back

1252
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: to the jersey thing, it is not about Tony Romo.

1253
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: To me at least, it is not about the number.

1254
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: It's about the person who's making that change. I could

1255
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: see a rookie with the number nine and I was like, Okay,

1256
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 1: I mean, at some point you got to move on

1257
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: from the number. But it's just about who it is.

1258
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to hate on him so much,

1259
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: but it's just like certain things. When he comes and

1260
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: he takes it onto the field, that's when it becomes

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01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: a problem to me because I try not to comment

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01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: on people off the field whatsoever. And another thing on

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Speaker 1: his interview from yesterday, he was like, Yeah, I'm gonna

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01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: try to carry the number nine legacy. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what legacy? What kind of legacy are you gonna be

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01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: carrying here? I mean, I hope he does better and

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Speaker 1: I hope you're right on this number nine that has

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: some magical power. And I'm saying, maybe that's how he

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01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: views it. I don't expect that, like as Dave always

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01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: is like, maybe some people do believe in it. And

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Speaker 1: can he be the third best linebacker in the history

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Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, because I really think that's what number

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01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: nine is, right, third best quarterback in the history of

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01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I think so. I mean you can argue

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01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: absolutely based off of that, but stats and everything around it.

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Speaker 1: I put him at three. I put him at three.

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Speaker 1: I didn't cover the other two guys. Um, I don't

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01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: think he can be third in third linebacker got some

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01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: ground and make up, but he he was wearing the

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Speaker 1: number of one of the best. I mean, so is

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01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: the underlying struff that no one's thinking of is already

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01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: He disrespected the fifty four more than the doing with

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01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: the nine. I just number, honestly think Randy White. You

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01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: talk about where they rank, Randy White, in my opinion,

1285
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: maybe the best defensive players the Cowboys have ever had.

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01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: He was a dominant if you want to throw in

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01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: Dion and those few years. But like Manster was, like

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01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: he was, Yeah, I had a Manster poster. I wasn't

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: even a Cowboys fan, like, I mean, this dude was

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01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: seriously one of the best to ever do it, and

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Speaker 1: he wore his numbers. Let's let's also throw this part

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01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: in about numbers, because there's different rules for different numbers.

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Speaker 1: Some of them are absolutely untouchable. Okay, seventy four and eight,

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01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: you're not getting them at twenty two. I don't think

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01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: you're getting that either. Some of them you can get

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Speaker 1: if you're a badass at that position. Ninety eighty eight

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01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: and fifty four is sort of in that boat. They

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01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 1: try to give it to a linebacker that they think

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01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: can do something. Bobby Carpenter laugh, if you want first

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01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: round pick? I thought, okay, Bruce Carter, Yeah, they thought,

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01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: you know that they could happen fifty four, and that's

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01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: why they gave it to Jayalen. Twenty or seems kind

1303
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: of similar too. That was ever since number one. Yeah,

1304
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: they try. They try with corners. You know, Barbara had

1305
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: it in there too. But I mean, like and the

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01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: reason why Jerry I think finally Jerry didn't want to

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01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: do it at first. From what I've been told, he

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01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: finally they convinced them, you know, family convinced them he's

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01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: not a quarterback. If this was a young quarterback, we're

1310
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: not doing it. But Jalen is not a quarterback, so

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01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: it's fine. We can't keep nine forever. He didn't do

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01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: enough for you to be untouchable nine, but maybe not

1313
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Same with thirty three. They get thirty three

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01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: out all the time, but if it's a running back

1315
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: up and coming running back, they won't do that right

1316
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: while or Woody has just got to watch Terrible DBS

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01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: where twenty eight like every and I don't know who's

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01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: gonna wear eighty two again, Yeah, I can't see. Definitely,

1319
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: don't be a tight there's a lot of you know,

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01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of tight ends that I mean numbers.

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01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: You know they can wear different numbers now, so you

1322
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: don't have to be in the eighties. Yeah, you talk

1323
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: about an untouchable number, that one. Jason's up there now,

1324
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't see other life life, you know, Like, what

1325
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: is that picture? I can't even call it a picture.

1326
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: What it is? A rural? Yeah, he's a mural. It's

1327
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: a piece of art. With his likeness, I just think

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01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith's gonna take care of this for everybody. And

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01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: that's like if you just detach yourself of the emotion

1330
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: of it all. If he feels better than nine, he's

1331
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: gonna go out and play in nine. If he plays great, awesome,

1332
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: and it'll it'll be fine. And if he doesn't, and

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01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have a tough decision to make

1334
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: next year and then well it may be an easy decision,

1335
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: but either way, it'll it's gonna be clear, be fine,

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01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: and it's just you know, I get I get that

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01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: it's a it's a hot topic thing. Good decision. Find

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01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: it at the end of the show, Derek, because if

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01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: you would have put it, we would have four before

1340
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: we talk about the OTA. Yeah, it's smart. We appreciate you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Joanna will be back next week for another week. We

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01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: actually have a few more shows before we end for

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01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: the summertime. I think we got two more shows here.

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Speaker 1: We got two more shows. One of those shows Amber's

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: gonna host. We have a figured out which one yet,

1346
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: but she's hosting one of them. So we got two

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Speaker 1: more shows and then we're gonna be taking a little break. Boss.

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Speaker 1: Can't take a little break for the summertime. Till next

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Speaker 1: week for Nick Eatman, Dave helm and Amber Garcia. I

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Speaker 1: am Derek Hickleton. This has been The Break Live on

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production

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Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.