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Speaker 2: Welcome to NFL Daily, where, yeah, we're gonna get sick

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Speaker 2: Today we're gonna break down the top one hundred and

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Speaker 2: in a rainy Los Angeles garage and talking to my

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Speaker 2: a big day, the first time wherever exclusively debuting the

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Speaker 2: free agency rankings on the podcast, at least until the

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Speaker 2: moment my editor realizes it and takes this episode down.

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Speaker 1: Only what a day. Everyone's been waiting on ten to hooks.

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Speaker 1: You've been completely frazzled, going back and forth. Should this

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Speaker 2: I had an idea, and I might do this next

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Speaker 2: This is a show for Sikos and we are going

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Speaker 2: because it's a due date right now and I haven't

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Speaker 2: even written the profiles. This thing is fluid. It still

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Speaker 2: might change. Ali said, My most trumpy in quality is

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Speaker 2: the last person that I've talked to. So Ali, you

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of pressure. I enjoy having that kind

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's start with the top ten. And I made

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Speaker 2: at one and we'll talk about the whole thing. Number ten,

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Speaker 2: so the come up was happening. Daniel Jones number eight

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Speaker 2: a rare multi All Pro coming off his rookie contract.

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Speaker 2: The center for the Ravens is number four. Jalen Phillips

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I do think that then this

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Speaker 1: is like, do you want to win the Fantasy Football Championship?

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Speaker 2: being higher. Shaheed I struggled with because he help, he

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Speaker 2: After Pierce, I felt okay about it. How do you

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Speaker 1: I think it's solid. I think Verat Tucker is really, really,

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Speaker 1: And so if you're just looking for a capable stocking god,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I want. Like condescelling Condescending ALI

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Speaker 2: Apple Card for all your game day purchases. We can

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Speaker 2: just go back and forth here. You did have some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start with Willis. I love the fit of

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, who I do still believe in my bones

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Speaker 1: you know, coming up with a PowerPoint presentation about Joe

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see it. They did spend last year.

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Speaker 2: NFL Daily. I'm sure he'll just he'll just tell us

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Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. I do like Malik Willis in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: It's partly Minnesota would be even better, but Zona feels

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Speaker 2: But great left tackle, maybe not great, very good left tackle,

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Speaker 1: Just like adding a real field stretcher to Brian dabel

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Speaker 2: segments we can we can kind of reveal Nick Cross

432
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Speaker 2: that I think is in the in the forties for

433
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Speaker 2: me as an underrated colt safety. You have him going

434
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Speaker 2: to the Bills. I also have the Bills with what

435
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Speaker 2: would be a fun signing, But all right, you go

436
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Speaker 2: with Cross first.

437
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Bills have been open. I think

438
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: in their press conference is that the goal of the

439
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: defense is to be more multiple and not in the

440
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Speaker 1: kind of generic sense, but truly be able to shape

441
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Speaker 1: shift before the snap, take it as late as possible

442
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Speaker 1: into the snap. How can we move around, how can

443
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Speaker 1: we rotate, how can we adjust the front? You've got

444
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Speaker 1: to find one of these hybrid players who is comfortable

445
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Speaker 1: playing on the line of scrimmage linebacker when needed at safety,

446
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Speaker 1: And I just think Nick Cross is one of the

447
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Speaker 1: most criminally underrated plays of being able to change what

448
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Speaker 1: you can do in terms of switching the front around,

449
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Speaker 1: changing the structure of the defense. They're going to move

450
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Speaker 1: a tom pre snap. I don't think he's going to

451
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Speaker 1: cost an awful lot of money. And if they're trying

452
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Speaker 1: to maybe cheap out defensively, if just the way Jim

453
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Speaker 1: Lennon is signaling it, and he's got a safety background

454
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Speaker 1: and he wants to bring a bunch of pressure from

455
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Speaker 1: the safeties while having this kind of mobile moving from

456
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Speaker 1: that defense doesn't fit that right now. But one of

457
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Speaker 1: the kind of lynchpin pieces you need is that hybrid

458
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Speaker 1: safety and it can kind of correct some of the

459
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Speaker 1: issues you may have by having to invest heavily in

460
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Speaker 1: the defensive line. So I just think it'll be a

461
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Speaker 1: home run pick up for them.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the safeties are going to go cheap,

463
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Speaker 2: and it's going to annoy me when I see some

464
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Speaker 2: linemen that I have ranked below the safeties getting quadruple

465
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Speaker 2: all the money. But that's just how I like to

466
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Speaker 2: do my rankings, just thinking about the plus starters because

467
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: you get those deals. Cam Curll went two years, nine

468
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: million dollars two years ago. I mean that contract aged

469
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Speaker 2: amazingly and he played really well. I have him just

470
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Speaker 2: ahead of Nick Cross. I believe we'll get to that

471
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: and he maybe could double that and go to for

472
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Speaker 2: eighteen million dollars. But safeties are cheap, but they're still

473
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Speaker 2: important to have plus safety. So you had uh boy

474
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Speaker 2: A Mafi to the Niners. You had, Yeah, the Niners

475
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: making a big move there. I have Rashid Shaheed to

476
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Speaker 2: the Niners. I think I think that would be fun,

477
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: like they they sneak. You have a monster wide receiver need.

478
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: Now there's no Brian de Nayuka on the roster. There's

479
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: no Juwan Jennings on the rostar. It's really just Ricky

480
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: Piersaw who's not always healthy. And that's about it. So

481
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Speaker 2: what do you think of Shahid? Because I could see

482
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Speaker 2: him on the bills too, Like would would he be

483
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Speaker 2: a guy that that's where they try to address the

484
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: receiver position, at least in free agency as a field stretcher.

485
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Speaker 1: For Josh Allen, that would almost feel like Brandon bean

486
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Speaker 1: Kow towing to public pressure, like let's.

487
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Speaker 2: Go get the guys. It gonna be yeah, just soon's

488
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Speaker 2: it gonna be Yes.

489
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Speaker 1: It's weird. On was Shihed. I thought he was a

490
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: more developed, more nuanced player in New Orleans, and now

491
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Speaker 1: it was kind of driving that line like, hey, he's

492
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Speaker 1: more than you think. He's not just a field stretcher.

493
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Speaker 1: Then he got to Seattle and people may have been correct.

494
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Speaker 1: I may have been wrong that maybe really is the

495
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Speaker 1: core element of his game, and particularly if you're the

496
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Speaker 1: Niners and the Bills too. Frankly, I just think they

497
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Speaker 1: need a little bit more reliability, someone you can just

498
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Speaker 1: go and get it off the break along the sideline,

499
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Speaker 1: tough contested catches. I just think more of a chay

500
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Speaker 1: mover with a bit of a vertical presence. Which is

501
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: what makes Alec Piss so different, is that he is

502
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: that kind of speeds to down the field, but has

503
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: become way more adaptable attacking the middle of the field too,

504
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: and being more possession based in his game. Wish he heat.

505
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: It would feel like adding the fireworks in, but how

506
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: we actually gonna like systematically drive the ball down the field.

507
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: Would be fun with Shanahan, but I just think they

508
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Speaker 1: need a little bit more reliability.

509
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: They need a lot and I think we're both hitting

510
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: on something that I think they're going to be aggressive.

511
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: So whether it's a pass rusher and a receiver, like

512
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: I think they will get a pass rusher and receiver.

513
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: Obviously we're talking about guys at the top of the market.

514
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: Mafe would be a fun fit there some guys lower

515
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 2: in the market. I thought a dan Quinn Trayvon Diggs

516
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 2: reunion in Washington would be fun. I have Trayvon Diggs

517
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Speaker 2: maybe a little too high. I did move him down

518
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: throughout the week. I always just think if a guy

519
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: and I know he was a little lucky in the

520
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: interception year, but that the year after he kind of

521
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: backed it up with just better coverage. Overall, you could

522
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: see lightning strike twice with some of these cornerbacks and

523
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: you're buying low. Is why I kind of like him.

524
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Speaker 2: With dan Quinn, it'll just be a cheap one year contract.

525
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: I could see Joey Bosa, his old defensive line coaches

526
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Speaker 2: with the Rams. I could see the Rams having just

527
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: kind of some mercenary types for one year, and to me,

528
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: he would make a little sense. There you have Mike

529
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Speaker 2: Evans with the Chiefs, which is a lot of fun.

530
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Speaker 2: What do you think about what the Chiefs are going

531
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Speaker 2: to do this offseason? And why do you like Mike Evans?

532
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Speaker 2: Who's part of another category that we're going to do

533
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Speaker 2: in a little later which is like guys that I

534
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Speaker 2: just would want to sign because ex receivers, they still

535
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 2: matter and I don't think you're gonna have to totally

536
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Speaker 2: break break the bank for Mike Evans. And I think

537
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Speaker 2: when he played last year he still looked like Mike Evans.

538
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Speaker 1: He looked really good. I love Mike Evans. I want

539
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Speaker 1: full Mike Evans. If he's going to end his career,

540
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Speaker 1: can he end it with one of the great ones?

541
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Speaker 1: And so if it's Josh Allen Patrick mahone almost the

542
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Speaker 1: money is obviously very relevant to Mike Evans, but for

543
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: me it's not that relevant. I just want him to

544
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Speaker 1: win his career catching passes from one of the great ones.

545
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Speaker 1: And I love the idea of the Chiefs having an

546
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: adult in the room at receiver would be I think important.

547
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: And the idea of reliability of we have a precise

548
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Speaker 1: special quote about who can just throw it to the

549
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Speaker 1: spot on the field on third and night when we're

550
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: in the mud, Michael just go grab it and it'll

551
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: come down with everything, and we can build in with

552
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: all the fun creative playmakers, all the shot plays down

553
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: the field, but when we just got to get it

554
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: on third and six for the game, we can just

555
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: throw the ball to Mike and he'll come down with it.

556
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: A better version of what DeAndre Hopkins was like with

557
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, which I had to just google quickly. I

558
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: was like, that really happened right he played in the

559
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I was there a little bit of a

560
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: bummer that that didn't work out, But I think the

561
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Speaker 2: Mike Evans shout out would be a lot more fun,

562
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Speaker 2: all right. That was charging into free agency presented by Applecart.

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Speaker 2: to credit approval. So we've gotten through the top twenty.

567
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Speaker 2: We got a long way to go, let's take a break.

568
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Speaker 2: We're gonna come back and start firing through the rest

569
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Speaker 2: of this list. Back on NFL Daily, wondering if we

570
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: did miss an opportunity to do that one player per minute,

571
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: We're doing it next year. Ali, I'm signing us up.

572
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: I'm putting it down. I like that idea. But we're

573
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Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna rattle through these and we're gonna talk

574
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Speaker 2: about Quitty pay. The number thirty player in the top

575
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: one oh one free agents been all up and down

576
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: the board. Do I really want Quitty paying my team?

577
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: Probably not. I think he's gonna get paid. Maybe he

578
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: should be a little lower like for the money, but

579
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: he's still a young, potentially difference making pass rusher from

580
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: the Colts. Alante Taylor a favorite of mine at thirty one,

581
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: slot cornerback but can play outside, but probably best in

582
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Speaker 2: the slot. Isaac Sayamalo, the guard from the Steelers. Tariq Woollin,

583
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Speaker 2: who's moved down during the week, Number thirty four. Nakobe

584
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: Dean at thirty five, the linebacker for the Eagles. Connor McGovern,

585
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: the center for the Bills, has been sneaking up the list.

586
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: His teammate last year. Joey Bosa, who I talked about,

587
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: is next, then Calevon Chason who had a breakout year

588
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: for the Patriots, and Cayden Ellis the linebacker for the Falcons.

589
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: Wrapping up the top forty is Khalil Mack, so I

590
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: kind of have him and Bosa grouped maybe too highly, man,

591
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: This is where I said that after the top ten,

592
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: but this is really where the list Like, it's tough.

593
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: You could make the argument like one year mercenaries like

594
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: Bosa and Max should be much lower compared to younger guys,

595
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: so you're going to have a longer timeline like pay.

596
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: But I think they're probably better players than Quitty pay

597
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: right now. Maybe a Connor McGovern who's been I think

598
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: pretty rock solid as a starting center, should be a

599
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: little higher. Tareik Willen and Nakobe Dean are both boom

600
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: or bust type of players. What stands out to you?

601
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: I want to actually start with say am Alo, and

602
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 2: then I'll ask you what stands out? Because am I

603
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: overrating say a Malo. I keep hearing he's gonna get

604
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: a lot of money, Like is it why? Like should

605
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: he should?

606
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: He is a different question. I think I think he

607
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: will because of just how lacking in solid interior line

608
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: play the league is across the board. I would not

609
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: let him go of ou as the Steelers.

610
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes me feel better about the ranking. What

611
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: about what about Freak Willin, who I think is on

612
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: a list of yours coming up, and so we might

613
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: as well, you know, unveil that now. Guys, guys, you

614
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: would be wary of you have Trek Willen and Joey

615
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: Bosa on that list.

616
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa first would just be the health track record.

617
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: I thought the effort fluctuated massively down the stretch this season.

618
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: He just was not interested in an awful lot of

619
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: plays and just took a bunch plays off, which is

620
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: not something you would traditionally associated with his game. And

621
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: he just didn't finish the way he has done traditionally.

622
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: And if you start removing his stripping back the elements

623
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: he used to make him an impactful play who always

624
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: took some plays off and would kind of just have

625
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: eyes only for the past rush, eyes only for the

626
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Speaker 1: quotes back, and you kind of live with the downsides

627
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: of his game. If you start ripping away five six

628
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: snaps the game of the good stuff I just stopped

629
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: to wonder, like, what are we paying for it?

630
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Speaker 2: I think I'm maybe a prisoner of you know, a

631
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: couple tweets I sent where or you know. Midway through

632
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: the year, I'm like, man, he was one of the

633
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: best free agent signings because there were a couple of

634
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: games where it felt like Joey Bosa was kind of

635
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: the difference, which it's hard to find in free agency.

636
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: I think it was much better than the numbers, but

637
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: the playoff performance was ghastly. And yeah, hearing what you said,

638
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: like I said, you have a chance to influence, I

639
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: think Joey Bosa is going to move down in these

640
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: final rankings.

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Speaker 1: So j Joey Bosa missed a third of his tackle

642
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: attempts last season and probably missed fifty of tackles he

643
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: should have been in position to make but had to interest.

644
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: That's what I mean, is he he gets there and

645
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: just the like you could see the old Joey Bosa

646
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Speaker 2: sometimes to get off like so that that was exciting

647
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: and I think he really helped. But I think, yeah,

648
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 2: it's good to keep him in context. Freak Willin is

649
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: a total boomer bust pick for this group and the

650
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: top of the cornerbacks. Let's talk about like overall, like

651
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: Jamel Dean's up there, Jalen Watson I like a lot,

652
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: but I don't know if I love. And then Wolan

653
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: is kind of this X factor who seems like he

654
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: should be like a big time free agent contract. But

655
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: do you want him? Let's say over Josh job who

656
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks who had a Super Bowl winning coaching

657
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: staff basically chose to start over threeque willin.

658
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I follow more that Mike McDonald Jesseman into

659
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: ideology of colnez Off. Just give me the dependable, reliable guys.

660
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: Most deceptions, most turnovers are either breakups in the middle

661
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: of the field or just a quarterback making a bad

662
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: decision and you catch the ones they throw to you.

663
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: They throw you a bad ball, you pick that one off,

664
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: You hope you can cral it in. I think it's

665
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: almost like an old school two thousands, big fraging contract

666
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: type mindset to think, oh, we'll go and find the

667
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: playmaker at corner. I think it's a really nice added

668
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: benefit if one of your corners can go and high

669
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: point the ball and make some ridiculous play outside of

670
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 1: his assignment. I'd rather just have the assignment sound cornerbacks.

671
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: And I think Woolan just goes to sleep for far

672
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: too many plays games, including in an NFC championship game

673
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: whereas a super Bowl on the line, and he's going

674
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: to sleep consistently worrying about everything else that's happening not

675
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: on the field. So he would just be a cross

676
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: off for me, And you would just have to live

677
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: with the fact that he'll probably have a season where

678
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: it's seven eight interceptions and he's becomes really famous and

679
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: makes the pro bawl. But does it really impact winning

680
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: on a down to down basis.

681
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: I mean, if you get seven to nine interceptions that year,

682
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: he'll impact winning. But I hear what you're saying, these

683
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: cornerbacks pop up. It's such a hard position to predict

684
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: in general. All Right, I asked you for some guys

685
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: you'd want to sign, and one of them is in

686
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: this tier. I like your idea that's related to McGovern I.

687
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: Like the idea of pairrying conom Governor David Ewitts together

688
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. I thought the Vikings tried this last

689
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: season right with Will Fryes and the center as well

690
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly, and it didn't go quite so well for them,

691
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: more because of health concerns, I think than anything else.

692
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: Though Fries played better down the stretch of the season.

693
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: But if you're going to be drafting Fernando Mendoza, which

694
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: we expect them to do, I love the idea of

695
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: bringing two veterans, steady hands who've played together, who are teammates,

696
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: who have the chemistry and kind of the wink wink connection,

697
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: and you look at what they've been asked to do,

698
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen is a freak and he sorts a

699
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: lot of things out for you, and he makes you

700
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: look a lot better. They had by far over the

701
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: past two seasons the highest individual one on one blocking

702
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: rate in the league the Bills did. They don't blow

703
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: any assignments, they don't allow any free runners. They have

704
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: a really low time to pressure, which does not involve

705
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: Josh holding onto the bowl and getting rid of the

706
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: ball quickly. So I just think the idea of saying,

707
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: let's bring the two vets in. We've got all this

708
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: cap room. The line is being a mess for years.

709
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: We keep chasing the high up side guys in the draft.

710
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: Let's go get two solid plus starts is in the

711
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: in the middle of the offensive line, and Fernando can

712
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: at least be stable from send it to left.

713
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: God, I know, the longer this has gotneen, the more

714
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: I've thought I should move mcgovernor up. Or you how

715
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: do you? What do you think about him in the

716
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: thirties here where he is?

717
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: I like McGovern I like McGovern a lot. I would

718
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: I would bump him a decent amount up.

719
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. There just aren't many guys that are gonna be

720
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: able to start at that position right away that would

721
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: normally be available in free agency. And so that's why

722
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad I gave this week to really think about it,

723
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: because I think he's gonna keep moving up and up.

724
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to the next ten and Brian

725
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: Cook should have been somewhere in there. The problem is

726
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: I got too many lists. I'm copying and pasting back

727
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: and forth. The official list. Brian Cook is that is

728
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: the top safety on and we have even mentioned him yet.

729
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: He should have been in there somewhere. Number forty is

730
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, who is the next safety I have on

731
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: this list, the Super Bowl winning safety for the Seahawks

732
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: hitting free agency right in the middle of his prime

733
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: number forty one, Quay Walker, first round pick of the Packers,

734
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: number forty chig Oconquo, the tight end of the Titans.

735
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: Caid Mays, who a lot of people might not know,

736
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 2: started at center last year for the Panthers. Nick Cross,

737
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: who we talked about Leo Chanel, always a dynamic player

738
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: but never playing more than like five hundred snaps for

739
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, is an interesting young player. Brayden Smith the

740
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: right tackle for the Colts. He's an interesting case because

741
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: I think his overall play as a pro would have

742
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: him even higher, but there's issues with concussions and concerns

743
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: about retirement, so I sort of split the difference and

744
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: put him around here. I don't even know for sure

745
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: if he's playing football this year. Cam curl is next,

746
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: the safety for the Rams, Joseph Assi bass rusher for

747
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: the Bengals, and then Juan Jennings in the mix. Uh

748
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 2: the wide receiver for the forty nine ers. And I

749
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: asked you to come up with some guys you want

750
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: to sign. We just talked Edwards and McGovern. Another couple

751
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: of them, Cad Mays and Brian Cook on your list.

752
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd rather have Cad May's at seven million dollars

753
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: year than Linda Baum at eighty million dollars a year. Right,

754
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: Mays is not getting Mays at seven though, I think.

755
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

756
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think that's out of the barn.

757
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: I think there's other teams that are going to be interested,

758
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: and I think the Panthers are going to have to

759
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: pay up it. It's do I think he's just going

760
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: to get paid as a starter, which is like that's

761
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: starting double digits per year.

762
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: I think better pressure rate than Linda Baum last year.

763
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: Fewer snaps, but better pressure rate. Fewel one on one

764
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: prescious than Linda Baum last year. I feel one on

765
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: one sex than Linda Baumb last year. I just think

766
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: he has better slick of feet than he's given credit

767
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: fall for someone who was six six three twenty five.

768
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: He was a college tackle playing now at center in

769
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I think he's really switched on, particularly

770
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: in the room game one and then I think else.

771
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: But I think he's solid enough in past pro and

772
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: zems the mental side of the game, and it's just

773
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: a big unit, big ot. It's difficult to move off

774
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: the spot in past pro and he's another one way.

775
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: If you can get him to one of these more

776
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: protective systems like the BES where it's a lot of

777
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: double teams to help out the centa, you then feel

778
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: very little of the downside of his game and just

779
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: get all the upside.

780
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: So I love that. And there were some guys that

781
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: I'd like to sign out of this group or that

782
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: we've mentioned so far, but Juwan Jennings at the end

783
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: of it, Like like Mike Evans, it depends on the price.

784
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: I don't think the price is gonna be that that much.

785
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: So I think it could be Robert Salah in Tennessee

786
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 2: It we'll see, like the former Juwan Jennings guy. But

787
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: that's a guy you're looking to execute your offense and

788
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: block and if he needs to pop up as a

789
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: guy who I don't know about, carries you but has

790
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: a bigger target share for a little while, he's a

791
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: per value slash talent. You know what you're getting when

792
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: you look back at these lists year after year. Really

793
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: the best hits are the guys in the middle that

794
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: you signed to two year, fourteen million dollars contracts and

795
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: they just come in and they can play good football

796
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: for you, and I think Juwan Jennings to me is

797
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: like a lesser version of Mike Evans, not similar in

798
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 2: terms of players, but just the type of wide receiver.

799
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: I said, I like Mike Evans also I like Juwan Jennings.

800
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: I agree with I think when you go for those

801
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: reliable guys who you know what you're getting and can

802
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: plug into basically any system, that's your best bet, and

803
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: you're not playing paying top of the market thinking you're

804
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: bringing in a dynamic difference maker those sides we're talking about,

805
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: whether it's the chiefs of the bills, the truth contenders

806
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: who are hunting for like one extra piece in the

807
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: receiver room, maybe two, including the draft. That is the

808
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: kind of guy I would focus in on when you

809
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: know exactly what you get and complain every single alignment,

810
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: every single position for you, really reliable, very smooth down

811
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: the field, and if you get him with someone like

812
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: a Josh Allen, that maybe even be more upside than

813
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: we've already seen.

814
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: So I mentioned Kayden Ellis as a guy that I

815
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: would like for the right amount of money, you know,

816
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: Isaiah Likely or Kadea and I'd be really excited to

817
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: sign as well. And then I'm looking at my list

818
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: of guys I'd want to sign, and one of them

819
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: is Germaine Illuminor. And I realized Ali, a perfectionist, would

820
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: stop the tape right here and we'd go back and

821
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: we'd fix the fact that we completely skipped numbers twenty

822
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: through thirty on the list, because that's where ILLUMINAI is

823
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: for me. But we're going to just keep rolling. I'm

824
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: going to read it for you, and this is what

825
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: happens when you're just a mess. This week, I had

826
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: Jalen Watson number twenty one on the list, the cornerback

827
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: from the Chiefs, so you know, quite high up there.

828
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: That is where Isaiah likely is number twenty two. Zion Johnson,

829
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: who I think made some strides as a run blocker

830
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: at guard I think will get paid in free agency,

831
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: Wandale Robinson and kept sneaking up my list throughout the

832
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: course of the week. The slot receiver productive for the

833
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: Giants Jonathan Franklin Myers probably the best option of a

834
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: pretty weak defensive tackle group and free agency. Although there

835
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: are a lot of guys who can just help you

836
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: out for five to six hundred snaps, he's probably the

837
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: best of those. Brian Cook, who I mentioned just briefly.

838
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 2: Rashid Walker, the left tackle of the Packers, who who

839
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: kind of is maybe the rich man's Braxton Jones, like

840
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: a late round guy who just gave you like good

841
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: enough left tackle production. I'm a little worried about him

842
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: because I think he's gonna get paid big money. Jermaine Iluminar,

843
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 2: who I mentioned more of a guy who's been around

844
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: but is playing his best football at right tackle right now,

845
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: is with the Giants last year, and then Romeo Dobbs

846
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: is at twenty nine. That big group. I just gave

847
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: you what stands out to you the most players that

848
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 2: you like, players that are a little too high, too low.

849
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: What do you think I think the two tackles together.

850
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: Illuminar is so solid and has go from being I

851
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: think a little bit fleaky with more high end plays

852
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: to really struggling reps now just being straight across the board,

853
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: just really clean all the way around. Walker, I think

854
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: is similarly solid. He's actually fourteenth among left tackles and

855
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: pressure rate last season, but has a higher athletic upside

856
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: to be a bit of a factor for you in

857
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: the wrong game, whereas most of Alumino's game is just

858
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: like keeping the pocket as clean as possible in past protection.

859
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: So if you're maybe looking for a solid right tackle

860
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: and you're more of a pass centric offense, I think

861
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: ALUMINOI is the guy you want to go get, and

862
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: I think he's probably gonna get significantly more money than's

863
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: being projected.

864
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: I agree with that. Maybe I just undersold them. I

865
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna get as much as as Walker,

866
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: and I love to see it. I am absolutely biased.

867
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: We all are, you know, like in different ways. And

868
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: the fact that he is one of the pride and

869
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: joy of our friend Henry Hodgson and the International Pathway Program.

870
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: And I've been tracking Illumino's career from the beginning, and

871
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: there was a minute he almost was struggling to stay

872
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: in the league, which seemed crazy because he had a

873
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 2: lot of good tape out there. So it's a really

874
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: big success story development wise for him to be at

875
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: this point where he's really going to cash in. So

876
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm really happy for him. Do you have any takes

877
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: on Jalen Watson A guy I just didn't know where

878
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: to rank him. A cornerback, maybe similar to Brian Cook,

879
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: who he's been in that system for Kansas City, and

880
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: I think it is going to get a good deal

881
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: in free agency, but I might be over overrating what

882
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 2: kind of deal he's going to get, and maybe where

883
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: I have him ranked here.

884
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one where I'd be worried about him being

885
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: out of Kansas City. He's not someone I would go

886
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: and pay good money to to extract him away, though

887
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: maybe would do someone like a Chicka Conko some way.

888
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: If I'm in a bidding, what I'd really want to

889
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: just buy into the fact we could probably get more

890
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: off chigacon Quo. I'd be worried about, not necessarily just

891
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: the La Jerry Sneed side of things, but I think

892
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: paying those kind of sticky man coverage guys Noli gets

893
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: and all those guys play really well and technically sound,

894
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: and so you bring into another system where most league

895
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: is so zoned dense now and he's just not as

896
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: clean and that arid the game that I'd be worried

897
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: about paying him solid money.

898
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's good perspective, and yeah, he might be

899
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: moving down the list just just a little bit, just

900
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 2: a little bit. All right, let's get outside the top

901
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: fifty here. Now we're really going deep and we'll talk

902
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: about just some big picture stuff. But Bradley Chubb is here.

903
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: He just got cut by the Dolphins. Devin Bush, who

904
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 2: was on some second team All Pro you know, considerations

905
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: including I believe from Ali, came off a monster season

906
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: out of nowhere for the Browns. His teammate last year,

907
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: Wyatt Teller, who I'm struggling with, has plenty of good

908
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: tape out there, but was benched at one point last

909
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: year by the Browns. He announced this week, you know,

910
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: he's moving on from the Browns, one of the many

911
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: players who have void years and is going to be

912
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: costing money to the Browns. But he'll be available and

913
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: I think he'll be starting for someone this year. Aj

914
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: Epanessa the edge for the Bills. Khalaias Campbell, who probably

915
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: is still ranked too low every year. Travis Kelcey and

916
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers are next. I just liked having those three

917
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: guys all in a row. That was kind of by accident,

918
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 2: but I think it's where they deserve to be because

919
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: Kelsey is a very unique case. Aaron Rodgers, I don't

920
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: think is going to be playing winning football at all,

921
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: but you absolutely get a bump positional value as a quarterback,

922
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: and he could get you by certainly in the right system.

923
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 2: Justin Strenaud one of your favorites, and then Jakwan Brisker.

924
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: Justin stronaut kind of an edge I mean, not an edge,

925
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: a linebacker who can use just bum rushing the quarterback.

926
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: I mean talk about your beloved because he is on

927
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: your list of guys you would want to sign Justin Stronaud.

928
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think only me and Missus Stronaud care about

929
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: Justin to this degree. He is the best technical, blitzing

930
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: linebacker in the NFL, flat out simple, particularly mug draw,

931
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: blitzing from depth, everything. People I think would think more

932
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: of Ivan Pays, Frank You, Luvium, all the small type blitzeres.

933
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 1: In terms of just technique, never selling it, always getting home.

934
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: Just instronautomy is the best the NFL. Him and Bobby

935
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: Wagner are probably the two.

936
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: Best, and Bobby Wagner's coming up. I might be underrated

937
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: him too. I do send this this list and talk

938
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: to some friends. You know a few people in the

939
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: league and a lot of the media friends, and you

940
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: weren't the only stronad fan, so that that helps.

941
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: Me me events Every year, Payton is trying to find

942
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: new linebackers events to work with, and he says, don't

943
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: worry about it. We got just in.

944
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: A okay, And I think that's that's a strategy that

945
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: could win. You had some guys that you were wary of,

946
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: and I'll give you some of mine too, But Devin

947
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: Bush was on that list. So is Bradley Chubb. So

948
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: we just hit two of those guys. Chubb, I think

949
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: speaks for itself. Just a guy who's had a lot

950
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: of injuries, maybe a little inconsistent down to down, and

951
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: the production maybe outweighs like the the impact Devin Bush

952
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 2: where he's at, with where he's at.

953
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tricky one because I thought he had

954
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: an all Pro cal of a season as you mentioned

955
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: last year, just paying for that one season in that system,

956
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: playing behind that defensive line alongside sweesnob with the unbelievable

957
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: protection behind him. Because del Pit was absolutely out of

958
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: control last season for the Browns and Covid up smoke

959
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: Bush's mistakes, I'd be really wary about bringing him into

960
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: another situation based on all the stuff in Pittsburgh. He

961
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: was a transformed player, and it's just I struggled to

962
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: think that's going to carry over for a two year,

963
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: three year contract.

964
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have preceps. I try to do these rankings.

965
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: By one of them is don't just rank off the

966
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: last year. That's That's what I feel like is a

967
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: mistake in the draft a little bit where people really

968
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: ignore the junior years entirely. I think it's a mistake

969
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: doing these lists. The entire body of works should be considered,

970
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: and that makes me feel better about maybe bringing Bush

971
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: even lower. He started quite high, but there are other

972
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: good players at that position. This is where it's just

973
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 2: you're picking favorites here because from sixty to one twenty

974
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: one thirty, there's not a huge huge difference. All Right,

975
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go sixty to seventy. DJ Reader still an

976
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: effective enough nose tackle for the Lions, but definitely on

977
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: the back nine of his career. Javonte Williams was great

978
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys last year for a one year pickup,

979
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: and you want a rugged running back, I think he's

980
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: a good good option ed Ingram coming off a career

981
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: year guard for the Texans. Cordale Flatt, who man seeing

982
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: him up here, he started around one twenty one to thirty,

983
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: I started thinking more about it. Arnold Abachetti is another

984
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: guy who's moved up my board throughout the week. Last

985
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: few weeks. Draymont Jones had a lot of production when

986
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: he was traded to the Ravens. Sneaky young that partly

987
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: did it. When I was comparing him in Hassan Reddick

988
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: who will get to I was like, wow, he he

989
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: is younger. Josh job is here who we talked about,

990
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: Kingsley and Nigbari who's a solid young player for the

991
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: Packers as Sante Samuel Junior who I might have too high.

992
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 2: And Kenny Gainwell, the you know, famous team MVP from

993
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. I had guys I would be wary of.

994
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: And Ed Ingram was kind of on my list here

995
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: and yet I'm putting him in my sixties, but I

996
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: just know he's going to get get good money. We've

997
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 2: talked so much offensive line I can almost hear Eric's,

998
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 2: you know, saying, do the sizzle positions? So how about

999
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: some of these sizzle positions? Out of these ten who

1000
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: stand out to you? We got Javonte Williams there, we

1001
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: got Cordell flat up in the mix. Do you think

1002
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: Ebaketty or Draymond Jones or Enigbari could get big money

1003
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 2: in terms of like the defensive lineman.

1004
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: Ebiketty interests me. I think you have to be a

1005
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: really blit centric defense to cover up some of his concerns.

1006
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: He's not kind of the speed bend off the ball

1007
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: where if it's you know and nine the playoffs of

1008
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, we want him truly in the rotation.

1009
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: But I think he can give you good, solid, all

1010
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: our effort type stuff. And if you look at what's

1011
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: at the top end of your list with Oway and

1012
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: those guys, I don't think it's that stark and decline

1013
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: depending on your defensive system to go all the way

1014
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: down there to.

1015
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: Well, then why weren't they playing no more? That's the

1016
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: biggest issue I have is.

1017
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: Because they invested two first round picks and everyone's job

1018
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: was on the line.

1019
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: Right, But that means they think those two first round

1020
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: picks were better than him. Is James Pierce no better

1021
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: than him? No? You don't think so?

1022
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: Okay, that worried me more than anything that the way

1023
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: they were playing, they required first step quickness, that Ebucetti

1024
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: does not have. If you just say we're going to

1025
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: put in with the Niners with the Eagles and it's

1026
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: going to be more four down and go rush, just

1027
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: run out in through someone's chest for thirty five snaps,

1028
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: everyone else will feast. He is willing to do that

1029
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: for you, and that's the kind of play those teams need.

1030
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how I landed on Cordeill Flat Island.

1031
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure why. I just like he was

1032
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: pretty good last Year's right, he's young, he's coming off

1033
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: his working contract, and he's been like a slow progression.

1034
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: Cornerbacks are inconsistent, and I just feel like he got

1035
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: better and better. So okay, I don't feel that bad

1036
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: about that.

1037
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: A weird one, the ingram one. I know you said

1038
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: we're doing too much offensive line play, but I now

1039
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: think that his development was legit, that it wasn't like

1040
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 1: flashy and just he wasn't making such obvious mistakes where

1041
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: guys just you know, turn styling him immediately off the snap,

1042
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: which is what most of his kray was. I do

1043
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: think he was a lot more solid, and so I

1044
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: could buy into based on the pre draft record, what

1045
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: teams will have had about him pre draft and kind

1046
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: of seeing it come together right before frames Yet I

1047
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: could see him getting some more money.

1048
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I think he'll do well. I was just a

1049
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: little worried, but I like hearing that. I think he's

1050
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: I feel good about where he's at. By the way

1051
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: I mentioned Jaqwon Brisker before, he's a really unique situation.

1052
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: If you're just going off his tape, in his age

1053
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: and his pedigree and the way he plays football, he'd

1054
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: be even higher on this list for me. His history

1055
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: of concussions are just so worrisome that I kind of

1056
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: split the difference and put him in the middle. But

1057
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: he might be a cross off for a lot of

1058
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: teams and hopefully the Bears just treat him well keep

1059
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: him there. I think he belongs there and that would

1060
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: be great a Sante Samuel Junior being this high. I

1061
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: know he's not much of a run stop or anything,

1062
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: but he came back out there last year and I

1063
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: thought he played pretty well. And if you're just going

1064
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 2: to give me replacement level, like solid starting cornerback value,

1065
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: do you think I have him too high? And am

1066
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: I being too sentimental? Because I went back to check

1067
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: the first top one oh one free agents list that

1068
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: Chris and I put together. I actually was doing this.

1069
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: I don't think it was one oh one at Pro

1070
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: Football Talk. I don't know if it was every single year,

1071
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: So that wasn't the first time I ever did it. It

1072
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: was the first time we did at NFL dot Com,

1073
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: me and Chris Westling. And on the first one we

1074
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: did together, which was twenty fourteen, we had a Sante

1075
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: Samuel I think it was number sixty eight. He was

1076
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: at the end of his career, and I just I

1077
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: just like the fact that this has to be the

1078
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: first father son pairing to make the list. Did I

1079
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 2: think I put him at the same number just for fun,

1080
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: which only I would know, but now our listeners know.

1081
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: I like that. You know you're trying to guess up

1082
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: the replacement level corner and the cook reached up. You

1083
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: just complain in the league in twenty twenty six if

1084
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: you ask out of anything in the primitter game, run game,

1085
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: screen game, and you can be fine running and turning

1086
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: down the field and you know, do all the swipes

1087
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: and hands swipes when there's an incompletion around you. He's

1088
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: not interested in the fight, and that's the player I

1089
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: would cross off the board.

1090
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: This is tough. You know, the list, it can change quickly.

1091
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: Guys can go from sixty to off it. Because there's

1092
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: so many guys I really love, and we will get

1093
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: to that. This is going to be a long show. Sorry,

1094
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: Eric and Chris. We're gonna make a meal out of

1095
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: the top one and one. I don't want to rush it,

1096
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: but there's so many guys out of the one oh one,

1097
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, I get some feedback, Oh,

1098
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: they should be they should be hired. They should be

1099
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: hired from people people don't ever want to say they

1100
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: should be way lower for some reason they should be higher. Well,

1101
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, but you got to start just taking

1102
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: completely people completely off the list if you're going to

1103
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: be moving all these guys you like. But maybe Asante

1104
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: is one of those guys.

1105
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: Certainly I am to hack your list apart for you.

1106
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 1: If you would like Kata Kohu, I don't believe makes

1107
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: your list. He should problem now.

1108
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: He's on the list. He's a list.

1109
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: He made on the list. Okay, he should certainly be

1110
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: above Samuel. He actually started in the seventies. Now he's

1111
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: down to ninety one right now. But he's on the list,

1112
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: but I could move him up. I know he is

1113
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: one of your favorites.

1114
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: I had a list and I mentioned Ingram was on it,

1115
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: but I want to go through it, and we're going

1116
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: to take one more break of the guys to be

1117
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: wary of. We gave yours. The rest are guys we

1118
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: mentioned towards the top. I want to you know, I

1119
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: want to swing big here Kyle Pitts. I'm a little

1120
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: wary of for the money that he's going to get

1121
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: as just like a big receiver, and you just saw

1122
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: him at his best, and are you going to keep

1123
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: getting that. I'm a little wary of Daniel Jones, which

1124
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: is funny because I think overall I have been higher

1125
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: on him from day one, and I've been consistent than

1126
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: average that I thought in the right situation, I think

1127
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: he can be like a you know, a replacement plus level,

1128
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: like the sixteenth best quarterback in the league, which is

1129
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: which can be that's valuable. And he was an even

1130
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: better situation last year coming off in Achilles, all the

1131
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: injuries that he has. I am worried about him, say Amla.

1132
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: We talked about QUITTI pay, We talked about Kwaate Walkers

1133
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: is another guy you're a linebacker guy I'd put on

1134
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: my be wary of because he just feels like the

1135
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: profile of a guy who's gonna get huge money when

1136
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 2: there's other guys available at the position.

1137
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you that the thing people are

1138
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: hoping for from him is, Oh, if you him to

1139
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: a completely different system where he's unlocked as this attack

1140
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: based player and it's a ton of blitzing. Look at

1141
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: the athleticism, he's just never really showing up on the

1142
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: field snap stup, He's ever been the best linebacker in

1143
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: his own tandem. So I just think it's chasing the

1144
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: player that was really exciting coming out of college, rather

1145
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: than evaluating the pro film and going baseline. If you're

1146
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: looking full impactful, blitzing play, you can go and get

1147
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: yourself a Justin Strnad, a Devin Bush, someone that will

1148
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: be I think far cheap, and then teams that will

1149
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: default back too. We wish we drafted him in the

1150
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: second round and he wasn't available to us.

1151
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: This has been a very useful exercise with me. For me,

1152
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm going all the way to the end. Let's take

1153
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: one more break and then let's hit the end of

1154
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: the list before we leave. All right, we are back

1155
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 2: on NFL Daily. We're up to number seventy on the list.

1156
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: Ali Connolly is with me. He said he's ready to

1157
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: go four hours. I don't know if that's a threat

1158
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: or a promise. We will see number seventy. Monteric aka

1159
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: Buster Brown love watching him this year. Had a career

1160
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: year in his contract year. Maybe he's too high, but

1161
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 2: I like me some Montic Brown Nayshaun Wright talk about

1162
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: a guy who timed just a year out of nowhere. Well,

1163
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: really curious to see what his market is, but I'm

1164
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: a little afraid of giving him big money. To Mario

1165
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: Davis still playing well, We're into the aged guys who

1166
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: can give you one more good year. Kevin Zeitler's probably

1167
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 2: still in that category. Guard for the Titans. I had

1168
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: no idea where to put Tyreek Hill. He would be

1169
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 2: a cross off for me because of the off field

1170
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: issues plus the injury stuff. There's a sliding scale for

1171
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 2: off field issues in the league. And by off field issues,

1172
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 2: we're not just talking even about driving fast, We're talking

1173
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: about domestic violence. We're talking about what he was suspended

1174
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: for back when he was the Chiefs and you saw

1175
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: in some reporting and you heard about this stuff of

1176
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: being a quote unquote distraction, to put it nicely, didn't

1177
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: really stop when he was on the Dolphins. So that

1178
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: plus the injury, which is a dislocated knee, you know,

1179
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: and a broken leg, is just a cross off for me.

1180
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: That said, you know, he's still Tyreek Hill. Someone's going

1181
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: to give him a shot at some point. I don't

1182
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 2: know how early it'll be. This year. That was a

1183
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 2: long Tyreek killjag Logan Hall, the defensive tackle for the

1184
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: Bucks read blanken Ship safety for the Eagles. Al Kahed Mohammed,

1185
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: coming off of extremely productive year for the Lions at

1186
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: thirty years old, he's bounced around the league. David Anyamada,

1187
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: who's out there for Dennis Allen to go pick up

1188
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: and it wouldn't surprise me if he does. And Marcus Mariota,

1189
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: who's putting up good film as he gets older as

1190
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. That is my seventy to seventy nine

1191
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: who stands out to you the most out of that group.

1192
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm not a blanken Ship guyin he's significantly a product

1193
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: of the system, and even within that system is just

1194
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: an all time gamble. He just gambles a whole bunch,

1195
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: and when you're playing with the Krupp of plays he's

1196
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: playing with, you don't always see the gambles exposed so much.

1197
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: I'd be really wary about him going into another system

1198
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: unless it was specifically a kind of Fanjo Coffy. Would

1199
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley pick him up to kind of bring more

1200
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 1: experience to the same secondary, I would be cool with that,

1201
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: But just as an across the board putting a ranking together,

1202
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't be on blanken ship.

1203
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: I thought I was putting him quite low, but you're

1204
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: making me think and I haven't checked all the other lists.

1205
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: I've seen a little bit of the PFF list, so

1206
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not lower than contensus. I kind of want

1207
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: to be lower than consensus, so maybe I'll check that out. Uh, Logan,

1208
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: do you have it? Don't have any Logan Hall thoughts.

1209
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: Not many interior defensive linemen coming up at the end

1210
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: of their rookie contract, almost none. He's the best one

1211
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: that shows any promise and a little bit of improvement. Yeah,

1212
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: he was an interesting one for me. He fits the

1213
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: profile of a guy who would get paid more than

1214
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: people expect that. I'm just not sure if you will

1215
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: or not.

1216
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: No, I just think he's so stiff and doesn't offer

1217
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: an awful lot few on passing downs other than being

1218
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: big enough in physical enough to command a double team

1219
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: that gets someone else free. But you can just go

1220
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: and find that with like an drafted free agent. Like

1221
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's necessary to invest good free

1222
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: agent dolls in that kind of play.

1223
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean you said you're gonna hack my list.

1224
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: We might just have to get on the phone after this,

1225
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: or we could just do it as a podcast. To

1226
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: Mario Davis, I moved up through the process. I just

1227
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: kept feeling bad. I was like, he's still helping.

1228
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: He's the best.

1229
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: I know it'll I know it'll stop one time, but

1230
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: like it's not stopping. I asked you for boomer Bus players,

1231
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna hit yours after the next ten because because

1232
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: one of yours is in that next ten. U but

1233
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: Nashon Wright was was in in my group, Practically every

1234
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: cornerback almost felt like a boomer Bus. Maybe not Josh Job,

1235
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: but I don't think he's boomer Bus. But a lot

1236
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: of these cornerbacks are boomer Bus. Quincy Williams, who we

1237
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: haven't gotten to, feels like a boomer bust. If Robert

1238
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: Salas signs him in Tennessee, which I fully expect, he'll

1239
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: probably play really well, so he'll outplay the ranking. Nacobe

1240
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: Dean was the one I wanted to circle back to.

1241
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: I think he's a bit of a boomer bus because

1242
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: of the injuries. Where do you think Nacobe Dean is

1243
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: at in the in the linebacker sphere? I talked to

1244
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: some people, boolf I mean, I'll put his name on it,

1245
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: just like you know the cover of the Eagles. He

1246
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: was surprised, like I was as high on the Kobe

1247
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: Dean as I was. What do you think I have

1248
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: him in the top forty?

1249
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he got a lot of national attention

1250
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: from being from the Georgia defense. Then those Eagles groups

1251
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: being so great, and he's such a psychopath and so explosive,

1252
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: you get really excited about the possibilities. I love the

1253
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: idea of him moving to a different system where it's

1254
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: not so reado and react, where he's not on the

1255
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: first line of scrimmage as often as he's been forced

1256
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: to be with the Eagles and getting into one of

1257
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: these complete blitz freakazoids out there. If he's with Brian Flores.

1258
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm all kinds of excited about the turbo charge and

1259
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 1: getting off the ball so quickly and maybe being able

1260
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: to conceal some of the concerns with the dropping back

1261
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: and reading and reacting type stuff. And we've got so

1262
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: many of those defense in the league right now. I

1263
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: would like to see that. But it's not a league

1264
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: filled of all out, full throttle pressure and attack. It's

1265
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: kind of showing it and backing own. It's a bit

1266
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: more complex and sophisticated, and I think his has developed

1267
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: enough to truly handle. So I have him locked in

1268
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: as I think he's gonna get a ton of money

1269
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: because team Yeah, yeah, I think he's gonna get way

1270
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: more than you think. Now it's a deep class, and

1271
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: maybe I'm off with that, but I do think he's

1272
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: got unteachable first step quicks and people adored him so

1273
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: much in the draft that being able to get a

1274
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: chance to get the hands on him, there'll be three

1275
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: or four teams who pushed the price up well.

1276
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: And he pops. He pops on film when you watch him,

1277
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: and he really did this year when it was going well.

1278
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: There was like you could if you pick his two

1279
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: best games this year, it's awesome.

1280
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: And so I think, and there are so many of

1281
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: these teams now who've got solid linebacker tandems, but they're

1282
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: just slow. And the good teams were slow. So even

1283
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: the good teams, the Patriots, I look at like someone

1284
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: like the Panthers, who might say, we just need speed

1285
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: at the position, and he's the most explosive guy available.

1286
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: Let's go eighty to eighty nine. Hassan Reddick, whom me

1287
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: and you have already talked about offline, who still had

1288
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: some good performances last year. I know the production wasn't there.

1289
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: I think he could help a team. Rico Doudo, who

1290
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: I felt bad ranking this low. Sheldon Rankins, who has

1291
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 2: been on this list more than any player in top

1292
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: one to one history other than the Devon Clowney, who

1293
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to. But Sheldon Rankins is always here

1294
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: and he always fulfills the value that they wanted. Just

1295
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: about Deebo Samuel is here. Felt bad about ranking him

1296
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: this low. This is where I landed with Trevon Diggs,

1297
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: Braxton Jones. If I'm looking for guys to get out

1298
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: of the top one oh one, Like it wouldn't hurt

1299
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 2: me to get Braxton Jones out, so maybe I'll do that,

1300
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: even though he's at eighty six for Shad White, the

1301
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: backup running back for the Bucks, so I think is

1302
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: a good player. Greg Knewsom, a boomer bust cornerback, Kobe

1303
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 2: Durant who started a lot of games for a team

1304
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: that's won a lot of games and is young. And

1305
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: then Quincy Williams, who I mentioned I thought one of

1306
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: your boomer bus was in this crew. I was wrong,

1307
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: So let's stay with this crew for a second. Braxton Jones,

1308
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: I keep asking about off linemen because that's where I

1309
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: feel like I need the most help. Maybe a replacement

1310
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: level guy, but ultimately wasn't the guy that the Bears wanted,

1311
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: but started a lot of games for him. What do

1312
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: you think about him even making it onto this list?

1313
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: I think making onto list is fine.

1314
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: We're getting into the crop, as you said, of like

1315
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: old hired hands one year deals, and maybe there's more

1316
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: potential there with him. Where could he develop into a

1317
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: solid capable starter. He's just so maddeningly inconsistent, and he's

1318
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: probably gonna be on those pickups where beat writers and

1319
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: fans start saying, well, they've solved this position, so we

1320
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it for the draft, and

1321
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: then in week four you're just, you know, flaming him

1322
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: online about how is this the guy that we brought

1323
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: into the team.

1324
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 2: I don't think Debo is going to have a great market.

1325
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: I said that on our round the n NFC program,

1326
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: and I got some pushback on that. That was surprised.

1327
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: I thought you played really well to open last season.

1328
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: Could you blame more of a pitch count. I think

1329
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: if you get into the charges with Mike McDaniel, I

1330
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: would be all sorts of intrigued. And could you just

1331
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: design six specific touches a game bit of a decoy

1332
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: on some of the stuff and kind of navigate through

1333
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: the season and get him healthier down the stretch of

1334
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: the year.

1335
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: Again, I'm always influenced by the last thing I heard,

1336
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: and I do love me some devot just feels like

1337
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: it's two games at a time, three games at a time,

1338
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: then it's three bad games at it, and it's just

1339
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: been like that for years. That's hard, but you're right

1340
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 2: in the right system. He could be interesting. Let's go

1341
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: ninety on. Oh, we're really doing it here, I mean

1342
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: we're at the end of this list. Dallas Godter is

1343
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: number ninety. Hayter Kohu, You're you're slot receiver from the

1344
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: Dolphins who missed all of last year with an injury,

1345
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 2: but was great the year before. Bobby Wagner the disrespect

1346
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: getting down here, Malcolm Kuntz. Christian Kirk could potentially take

1347
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: him off the list, but it is Christian Kirk. Jalen Thompson,

1348
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: the safety from the Cardinals who's had a pretty good year,

1349
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,479
Speaker 2: I mean a good career. Darren Waller who moved great

1350
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: last year when he returned. Kevin Bayern, who I feel

1351
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: really bad about putting this low. I feel bad about

1352
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: all these guys, Cam Jordan, Alex Angelodi, David and Joku.

1353
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: And then number one is Jedevian Clowning. We have a

1354
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: lot more to talk about here, but let's talk about

1355
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: the one oh one options. Ali, are you familiar with

1356
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: how I do the one oh one please? Okay? So

1357
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: players will be cut, players will be franchise tag, players

1358
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: will be added, players will re sign. We have editors

1359
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 2: taking care of the list, and I have to add

1360
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: players on when they become available. The list is always changing,

1361
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: so the one oh one is always changing. I need

1362
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 2: to make like one hundred and twenty write ups because

1363
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: more players are going to re sign and get franchise tag,

1364
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: then get cut and put on list. But it's always changing.

1365
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: But the one oh one is an honor where that

1366
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: player is just you just fix him there and he

1367
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: somehow represents something that I that I like about the

1368
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: league that I just feel can carry the weight of

1369
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: being the one oh one. And so we had some

1370
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: different options this year. Joku interesting guy, had a big

1371
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: moment overseas, you know, like loving it up with the fans.

1372
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: That was cool. Cam Jordan, I think he would taken

1373
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: it as an insult. He's a colleague. I think he's

1374
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,959
Speaker 2: gonna take this ranking as an insult if he finds

1375
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 2: out about it. Hopefully he won't. Jimmy Garoppolo was a

1376
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: pretty strong option. We haven't mentioned him yet. He's after that.

1377
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: I think he's been one O one before. Patrick Ricard,

1378
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: who I kind of forgot about because I just sorted

1379
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: by running backs, might need to be much higher on

1380
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: the list. We'll talk about him too. He would be

1381
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: a fun option, but I settled on Jadevian Clowney because

1382
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: to me, he, more than anyone, has defined this list

1383
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: over the last decade, always on it, sometimes near the

1384
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: very top. He's been as high as I think number three,

1385
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 2: number two in some years. Usually returns pretty good on

1386
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 2: investment as long as he's healthy, and just like the

1387
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: ultimate free agent, you know, he defines free agency.

1388
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: He does define phrase. He rocks up week one. Don't

1389
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: worry about training camp. I'll just up and get you

1390
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: seven secks and a couple of preushes and we'll all

1391
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: have fun.

1392
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he was on the list last year,

1393
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 2: and I thought he was finally done, and like I

1394
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 2: did see on some other lists, like he was top

1395
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: fifty or something, and I was like, okay, that's too far.

1396
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: But he was so productive that I think he deserves

1397
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: the respect of even being on the list. To me,

1398
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,959
Speaker 2: he's the perfect one on one. So I'm not gonna

1399
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: be talked out of this one.

1400
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: And there's not that much edge juice. You mentioned some

1401
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: of these young guys in the untapped potential. I just

1402
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: don't see. I think a lot of those guys are

1403
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: just flame ounts who are taken too high in the

1404
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: draft and people at default into pre draft expectations. At

1405
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: least with Clowney, you know what you're getting. I think

1406
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: the same with Derek Bonnett. You know what you're getting

1407
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: with Derek Bonnett. The one guy who's not there who

1408
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: I think will be a good one on one is

1409
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: Charlie Cola who fits.

1410
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: But you're missing, You're missing.

1411
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: I know you want to, I know you want moment

1412
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: you put him.

1413
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: In at ninety nine or something if we wanted to

1414
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: make the case.

1415
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I accept that Clowney is the.

1416
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: Is the perfect Thank you. No, that's sorry for cutting

1417
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: you off on Coler. I'm saying Cohler can't could be

1418
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 2: a great player. He can't carry he can't car that wait,

1419
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 2: h Charlie Kohler. He needs to be someone that people recognize.

1420
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: But he was one of your was he one of

1421
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: your sleepers? There are a bunch of different lists out there.

1422
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: He was one of your guys that you would you

1423
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 2: would sign, would be Charlie Cohler, So, uh, you can

1424
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: talk about him a little bit. But you also had

1425
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 2: Cohu as one of your sleepers, Dennis Gardeck as one

1426
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 2: of your sleepers. Jalen Naylor, Roger McCreery, uh and Derek Barnett.

1427
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: Naylor the receiver, he was on the list initially for

1428
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: the Vikings. I think he might get a pretty good contract. McCreery,

1429
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 2: who the Rams traded for the cornerback, Derek Barnett the

1430
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: pass rushers. So these are guys that didn't make the

1431
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: one oh one right now that that you like as

1432
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 2: as sleepers.

1433
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, co Ou for sure. I think if you're looking

1434
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: for a slot collner who can attack in the rong game,

1435
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: attack in the blitz game, hang well enough in mancover Ridge,

1436
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: he's one of the guys out there. I mean, the

1437
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: whole blueprint for the team fell upon the Dolphins when

1438
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: they lost Kayakoh in training camp. He is so he

1439
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 1: was so asent to the whole structure of the defense.

1440
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: They started having to trade and pick up late for agents,

1441
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a new structure with where the

1442
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: league is at right now, bunch of two tight ends,

1443
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: bunch of heavy personnel. Slot corner has to be so

1444
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: invested in the pressure game, in the ring game, and

1445
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: Code to me is right up there probably the top

1446
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: twelve fourteen of slot corners defending an attacking too the flood.

1447
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: It will really be interesting to see his market. But

1448
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: those guys, you just haven't gotten paid enough over the years.

1449
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 2: Even Kenny Moore when he was available, I mean, he

1450
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: did well, but it's all relative and coming off an injury. Yeah,

1451
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: that would be a great bargain pick. I do want

1452
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: to go through the end of this list because some

1453
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: of these guys could be susceptible to getting kicked off

1454
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 2: the list. If we're moving guys up between, you know,

1455
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 2: let's say Bracton Jones, Greg Newsoen, Kobe Durant. Then we

1456
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 2: get into the final guys on the list, Bobby Wagner,

1457
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: Kristen Kirk, Jalen Thompson, Kevin Byerd cam Jordan, Alex Angeloni.

1458
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 2: In joke, I mean these are good players, Darren Waller,

1459
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 2: give me a couple that you would boot off the list.

1460
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm putting you on the spot.

1461
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Jalen Thompson, I would move up probably full

1462
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: TEENOS spots. I think he's gonna be in high demand.

1463
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: I would take and this this hurts me to my soul.

1464
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: I would take Bobby Wagner out.

1465
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 2: Wow, just off the list entirely.

1466
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: I think he is transformed his game in ways I

1467
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: truly admire it and appreciate. But he is just so

1468
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: frozen these days that it's just almost not worth having

1469
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: him on the field at this point.

1470
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a lot of tough moments of the

1471
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 2: ball flying over his head and just yeah, but here's

1472
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: the thing with him, I can take the easy way

1473
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: out mentally into the listeners that he might be retiring,

1474
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 2: And like, I didn't even put Harrison Smith or Joel

1475
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 2: Potonio down because I assume they are retiring until proven otherwise.

1476
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: And I think you could kind of say that about

1477
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner. You just one, you know, Walter Payton, Man

1478
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: of the Year, So then I don't feel as as

1479
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: bad about it. You got to give me more, though,

1480
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 2: because you have all these guys you want on the list.

1481
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: You want, you want Coohler moving up, you know you

1482
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: probably do. You want pat Riccard moving up. He was

1483
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:14,440
Speaker 2: a painful omission.

1484
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: It's a painful admission. He's not the play he was

1485
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: two seasons ago. So I would rather have Charlie Cole

1486
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: than I would recover.

1487
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 2: Right, But you also got your sleepers, gar Deck Naylor.

1488
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: These are guys who are in my top one thirty.

1489
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 2: Certainly Derek Barnett is in there too, quietly been pretty

1490
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 2: good for the Texans the last last few years. All right,

1491
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: no one, no one seems to stand out to you

1492
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 2: as like they have to get get off. No one

1493
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: offends you.

1494
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: I think, not offensive. But I think ANZELONEI is is

1495
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: pretty grossly.

1496
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: That's how I felt too. So actually I feel good

1497
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 2: about it, Like he has moved down and down, like

1498
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 2: he started much higher. And I think it's more of

1499
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: a you know, to quote the great Chris Wesley name

1500
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: over game situation when we're making this list, He's just

1501
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 2: like a name that I know. He's played a lot

1502
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 2: for a good team, but yeah, he maybe doesn't make

1503
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 2: sense on this list. Greg Newsom is a guy I

1504
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: would be wary of, but I think he might get

1505
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 2: paid a lot. I was torn of. He was a

1506
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: cornerback that the Jaguars traded for during the season from

1507
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: the Browns. If I had made this list a year

1508
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: ago of prospective free agents, like, he's probably in the

1509
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,839
Speaker 2: top forty because I just think of him as a young, rising,

1510
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: really talented cornerback. So I think he could get a

1511
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 2: pretty big contract. I could be wrong, and yet like

1512
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't kill me to take him out of the

1513
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: top one on one.

1514
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: Now he terrifies me as a signing. He's just so

1515
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: up and down, but he will put together like three

1516
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: straight weeks so boldline all pro level where you might

1517
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: kick yourself if he's not.

1518
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: On this, that's enough. You gotta make the one on one.

1519
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is to me the only truth

1520
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: fit outside of Cleveland way well before. It would make

1521
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: sense as the Jets, the volume of mind coverage, the

1522
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: system they run, that would be why I'd be willing

1523
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: to say we could maybe bring him in, plug him

1524
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: into two seasons. Otherwise I think someone's gonna have real

1525
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: bias remlse where they pay him. He's such a pole

1526
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: scheme fit that he's not even on the team in

1527
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: a season.

1528
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: So I asked you for some boom or bust players.

1529
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: You put Malcolm Kuntz, who wasn't great last year coming

1530
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 2: off an injury, but now he's a year further remove.

1531
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 2: Could be interesting. You put Son Reddick, which the fact

1532
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: that you think he could be a boom is all

1533
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: I need to hear in terms of where he is.

1534
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: I tend to agree Rashid Shahid. We talked about Chegou

1535
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: Konko is a is a guy that we agreed for

1536
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: that category and a guy I would be intrigued to

1537
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: sign absolutely, Like, what do you think his his market

1538
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 2: will be?

1539
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,839
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really high with these teams

1540
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: moving to as much too tight tend as possible. I

1541
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: think he'd be an excellent fit for the Patriots, For

1542
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. He's just the reason why it's been want busted.

1543
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: Me is I have such a feel, just like deepen

1544
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: my football bones, that the way more in there. But

1545
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: you might get to like week three and just look

1546
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: around the rest of the stuff and go, actually, we

1547
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: weren't really wrong about the untapped potential, and we thought

1548
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: the Titan stuff with Bozo's actually they were onto something

1549
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: and you would just know it and you'll go.

1550
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 2: Really early, Well he I know there's some different strengths

1551
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: and weaknesses, but he's just playing out that. That's what

1552
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: I always thought about Johnny Smith. Why I thought that

1553
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: signing by the Patriots was fantastic and then it turned

1554
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: out I don't. I think what you see was what

1555
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 2: you got, and actually they're kind of similar in terms

1556
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: of they looked really good as rookies and just stayed

1557
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: that way. So that that's an interesting guy to think about.

1558
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: You put Christian Wilkins down, which I'm glad you mentioned

1559
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: a guy who had one hundred million dollar contract from

1560
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: the Raiders then got cut. There was that whole story

1561
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: about like that he made people uncomfortable in the locker room.

1562
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: The injury was devastating. But he is out there and

1563
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: he's just a reminder. I did write him down with

1564
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: a big question mark like in my one twenties, but

1565
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: I just don't know what his deal is. But he

1566
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 2: was a guy who earned a one hundred million dollar

1567
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 2: contract in the NFL, So I'm glad we mentioned him

1568
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: on the show.

1569
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and played at a level that probably could have

1570
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: even got a little bit more than that the year

1571
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: he got the contracts. Just is he okay mentally? How

1572
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: is the foot health? If he's dialed in and there's

1573
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: a you know, sound medical check, you're gonna get him

1574
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: on keep us contract imaginable if he wants to play.

1575
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: And so I think if you're one of the contenders

1576
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: looking for sub rush help, if you just imagine him

1577
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: going to the Texans and it's like week seven. It's

1578
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: like the Texans brought Christian Wilkins in. I feel like

1579
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: it would terrify everyone the Texans got their hands on him.

1580
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: So if I was a team who was like rebuilding

1581
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: looking for some juice up front, I would certainly be

1582
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: making the call early to find out what's going on.

1583
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 2: Texans is a great fit for him to rebuild his

1584
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: value because you could get him on one of those

1585
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: Sheldon rankings or Tim Settle Derek Barnett deals, or it's

1586
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: like one for five or whatever, and sell him on

1587
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: the idea of rehabbing his value play for a good team.

1588
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 2: He's someone I'm going to be looking for, all right.

1589
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,520
Speaker 2: The last thing we'll talk about is just the painful emissions.

1590
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 2: These are also kind of sleepers for me. A sleeper

1591
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 2: would be Buster Brown, who I mentioned earlier, but the

1592
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: painful emissions. Jack Jones is not on my list, pat

1593
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 2: Ricard is not on the list. Jimmy Garoppolo is just

1594
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: outside the list.

1595
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 1: He probably Why are you upset about leaving Jimmy Garoppolo off?

1596
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: Why would you pay Jimmy Garoppolo money?

1597
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a market. Why don't you do well.

1598
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 2: Don't you to play to be a good backup quarterback?

1599
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: I think back, I always say backup quarterbacks are so

1600
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: undervalued because it's so valuable to have a guy who

1601
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 2: could play three pretty good games for you. Don't you

1602
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 2: think that's Jimmy Garoppolo.

1603
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 1: No, you don't know.

1604
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 2: I mean you know who disagrees with you, Sean freaking McVeigh.

1605
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: And I appreciate Sholan's perspective. I like toell most perspective

1606
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: about Peyton Manning. If Peyton goes down, we'reft. Don't worry

1607
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: about the backup. I believe in that set a thing.

1608
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: I would rather just go into the draft and throw

1609
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 1: a doll, throw at Tys Simpsonal Garrett, no smile one

1610
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: of the day to you guys. Then I will be

1611
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: interested in bringing Jimmy Garoppolo in.

1612
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 2: I was like wanting to love his preseason with the Rams,

1613
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: and then it was like, I guess they were always

1614
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 2: afraid to play him, so then you never really saw

1615
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: or even his practice. I'm thinking of like when I

1616
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: saw them do the move the ball field for an

1617
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: entire day and I was like, Okay, they love Jimmy Grappo,

1618
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: but I yeah, it's a big difference watching him and

1619
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford in the same practice, so it's maybe unfair.

1620
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 2: Kiris Tanga, I felt bad about leaving off the list.

1621
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: Snoop Puntley put up some good film last year. I

1622
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: felt bad about leaving off the list. Naje Harris was,

1623
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 2: you know, pretty highly ranked on this list a year ago.

1624
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 2: Bradley Pinion is a good punter Justice for punters. Maybe

1625
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 2: he should be on the list. I think he led

1626
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 2: the NFL and punts inside the twenty this year if

1627
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: you care about us, like, he's a good directional punter.

1628
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know if he deserves to

1629
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: make the list of Are there any guys I didn't

1630
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 2: leave on? Maybe the group I just said that you

1631
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: really love that you would put on or anyone else.

1632
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: I guess you gave your sleepers of guys that we

1633
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: haven't mentioned.

1634
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mentioned god Deck, who I think should be

1635
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: on that. And then Jalen Nayla not making the top

1636
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: one O one I find a little bit peculiar. I

1637
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: think he's got We mentioned about the Juan Jennings signing

1638
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: of can you find someone who's more not reliable category?

1639
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Nail is quite at the Jennings level. Book,

1640
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: could I see him having a super productive season for

1641
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: a very good offense. I absolutely good. Having a quotes

1642
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: back who is willing and capable and allowed to throw

1643
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: to the middle of the field would really help Jaalen

1644
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: Naylor and use hmmm.

1645
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: Good dig there. I think it's because I have these

1646
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 2: relationships in my mind, you know, parasocial relationships with these

1647
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: guys who I've watched for so long, and I've ranked

1648
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: them sometimes on this list, and it's like, you know,

1649
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 2: can I really leave old Dallas Goddard off list?

1650
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: No?

1651
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 2: I you know, I haven't hit Kevin Byard or Cam Jordan.

1652
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: It's like I got to get all these guys on,

1653
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: and then I don't feel as bad about Jalen Naylor,

1654
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 2: who I don't really know as well.

1655
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: You know, but even you've got Tyreek on the list,

1656
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: who is in the Tyson zone. You mentioned all the

1657
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: off the fields problems anyway, but is in the sense

1658
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: of you're gonna bring him into the locker room and

1659
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: not know what's gonna happen day to day, whether he'll

1660
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: be there on Monday, whether you got to cut him

1661
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: on Friday. That is not a concern with Jalen Nyala,

1662
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: who I think can be a really productive player.

1663
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 2: You've done it, You're right. And Tyreek Hill specifically, I

1664
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 2: didn't even put on the list initially, and then I

1665
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 2: was just like, I'll just throw him in at the seventies.

1666
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: But I don't feel that. I don't feel that my

1667
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 2: soul and I did some digging on him this week

1668
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: and nothing came back in the type of way where

1669
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, it's not good, you know, like I

1670
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: don't know if he's playing football anytime soon anyways, like this,

1671
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: like we don't know just injury alone. We know that

1672
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: NFL teams are craving and if Andy Reid has a

1673
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: chance to give Tyreek Kill another shot for three million dollars,

1674
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he's definitely doing that whatever it is, but

1675
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: he might not just might not even be able to play.

1676
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to look for some guys to

1677
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: take off. But you're right, Jalen Naylor fits the profile.

1678
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Jalen Naylor or Christian Kirk Jalen Naylor, Yeah,

1679
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: I think so too. Kirk was that one game, but

1680
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: it was pretty schemed up for the Texans, and before

1681
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: that he was he was struggling to produce to get

1682
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: on the field. We've done it, and this will maybe

1683
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 2: be the last Top one O one episode that we

1684
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: ever do that isn't every single player one minute per

1685
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Ali Connolly. You can catch Ali at the

1686
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: Read Optional podcast. He's also you're writing a lot these days, right,

1687
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: so what can they what can they find there? In

1688
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 2: terms of the podcast and what you're writing.

1689
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: We are in full draft season, full scott In reports

1690
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: as deep as you could ever imagine. It's almost like

1691
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: uncomfortable how deep BI go on the prospects, the scheme fit,

1692
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: the strengths, the weaknesses, the grades, all of it.

1693
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 2: So it's my dream to get you on a podcast

1694
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: with Jeremiah and just see what happens, you know, just

1695
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 2: like throw some red meat out on players that I

1696
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 2: know you guys disagree and see what happens. But you know,

1697
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 2: we're we're going to be tapping into your draft expertise

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Speaker 2: if we can in the next couple of months, and

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Speaker 2: of course we're thinking draft over the next week, we

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Speaker 2: are going to the Combine. That's the next show you're

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Speaker 2: gonna hear is Me from Indianapolis with Ian Rappaport on Monday,

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Speaker 2: unless he backs out last second, and then this will

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Speaker 2: be a document that he did that go to be

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Speaker 2: Met and Ian the top one to one. The written

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Speaker 2: version comes out Monday morning. Thank you, Ali. Thanks to

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Speaker 2: everyone for listening.