WEBVTT - Jonathan's Crowning Moments! 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:04.080 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batcher Happy Hour. 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:05.360 I'm Joe and I'm Serena. 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:10.360 We are here today with one of Joe's final four men. 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:17.200 Jonathan is here. Jonathan, you are in. So before every season, 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.520 Serena and I pick our final four guys just based 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:21.759 off of headshots. 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:23.759 We're kind of inconsistent with it, to be honest, but 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.080 this season we picked just based off of headshots. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.120 You're one of the guys that I picked, Joe. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:30.640 I like that. I like that. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.199 So let's well, first of all, how are you you 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:34.800 doing good? 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:40.360 I'm doing good, man, you know, just just living the dream, 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.040 taking one day at a time, and you know. 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:44.640 All's good. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:46.839 How how old are you? 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:48.280 I'm sixty one? 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:54.720 All right, So let's talk about like routine. What what 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:56.560 are you doing? Are you? Are you going to the 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.360 gym every day? What are you eating? 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.919 Joe is trying to find the secret to anti agent. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.640 You look amazing. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.960 Oh well, I appreciate that. Okay. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:14.440 So my secret, my secret sauce is two cups of 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:19.280 coffee every morning. Okay, coffee's already made. I said it 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.959 for like two thirty three o'clock in the morning. That way, 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.800 when I wake up about maybe four o'clock. I just 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.080 go grab a cup sugar creamer, crawl back in bed, 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.120 and I savor that first cup with a lot of 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.480 just kind of thinking about my day, do a little praying, 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:38.760 do a little meditating. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:39.880 I could do that. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:40.560 That's so far. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.600 Okay, you're gonna have him up in bed next to 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:49.400 me doing deep breathing and meditation at four in the morning, now, okay. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.120 So okay, all Serena. The important thing is that you 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.320 got to let him. You gotta let him drink the 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:55.680 coffee in silence. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.560 I'm totally fine with silence. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:00.480 Yeah. Yeah. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.000 So and then uh, and then as far as like 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:03.520 you know, working out and stuff. You know, I try 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.040 to get to the gym, you know, three to four 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.200 times a week. I do five sets of twenty reps 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.880 with incremental weight. So whether it's my chest, my arms 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:19.000 kind of like ignored my lower for my legs and 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:20.720 so I need to focus on that. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.200 But yeah, that's kind of skiing leg day, Jonathan. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.000 I know, I skip like le leg days are tough, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.760 and so so I'm paying the price because I get 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.840 a little lower back pains every now and then, and 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.680 my core could be stronger, but I'm a sweet tooth. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:36.640 You know if you put a if you put a 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.960 dozen Krispy Kremes in front of me, I'll eat all. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.880 I'll eat all twelve, just like that cream shirt. 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:43.560 Yeah, yeah, you know. 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.960 The secret to those is I had a friend whose 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.280 dad worked in like corporate for Krispy Kreme, and I 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.200 guess if you put them in the microwave for ten seconds, 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.919 they come out the exact same consistency as if they 0:02:55.919 --> 0:03:00.480 were freshly made in the store. So when it's such 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.480 a random fact. But when I was on the dance 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.880 Stupan University, we used to do Krispy Cream fundraisers because 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.120 we had this hookup and we would take the box 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.120 home and we would put like one at a time 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.600 ten seconds eat, ten seconds eat through the bust and. 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:15.560 They met and they melt like butter in your mouth. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.880 I mean it's like, you know what you're You put 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.520 one in and it's like you got to get another one. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.680 So yeah, yeah, they're they're good, good stuff. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:23.760 And then are you still working? 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:25.600 Yep, I'm still working. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.240 I worked for a kind of a consulting company, kind 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.320 of in the shipping area of a lot of materials, 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.600 books and things like that. So so, yeah, still working 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.560 and I'll probably I'll probably be working until you know, 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.000 I've got my daughter sixteen. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.560 My son is uh, he's in the seventh grade. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:46.160 So my plan is that I'll continue to work until 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.800 they're both they both have a are kind of on 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.760 their own path and doing their own independent thing. 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.840 How do your kids feel about you being the gole 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:56.520 to match are at? 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:58.760 Well, at first, they were shot. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.520 You know, they were shock because you know, they had 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.000 no idea of what what this journey was going to 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:06.960 be like. You know, they just know that it was 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.560 a TV show and and thinking that I was going 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.600 to be on TV was a shock to them. But 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:17.200 they're super happy. He's super ecstatic about it. My my daughter, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.280 my sixteen year old daughter. Of course, you know, she's 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.720 a little you know, she wants to make sure that 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.680 I'm not going to do anything crazy on TV that's 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.359 going to embarrass her in front of her friends and 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.880 things like that. And my son, you know what, he's 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.200 just a really thoughtful little guy. He's giving me some 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.599 good feedback, you know, like on some of the pictures. 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.080 You know, hey, he'll say, like, Dad, you you look 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.279 so handsome, and he's really proud of me. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.280 They're both proud of me, they're both happy about it. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.640 So oh that's so nice. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.680 Yeah, how did you? How did you? How did you 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:49.440 get on the show? 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.720 It was just something that just kind of came out 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.440 of the blue, you know, A cast and producer kind 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.840 of reached out through one of my social medias and 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.719 saw some pictures of me and kind of the idea 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.120 out there to me, and. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:03.920 I was shocked. 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:08.760 I was like, you know, I mean this, this was 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.719 a point where I was like, okay, well, you know, 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:17.600 I'm like the Golden the Golden Bachelorette. I didn't think 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.240 about my age at the time, but I was like, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.080 there's no one that's going to be on the show 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.200 that I'm going to be interested in because everyone's going 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:29.799 to be older. And and then it made me realize 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.200 is like, well, wait a minute, Jonathan, you're sixty one 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.280 years old. And then I related to Jones's story of 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.440 she's sixty one, and so I actually listened to the 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.359 I listened to the program more. I watched it. I 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.400 resonated with a lot of the topics, and so so 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.240 I entertained the thought about going on the show. I mean, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.440 it took me some time to really commit to it. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.560 But yeah, so that's that's how that's how it happened. 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.640 What was what was dating life for you? Like before 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:00.520 you went. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.960 On h hit her, miss hit her miss you know, 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.400 you know, being living in Oakland, Iowa, a town of 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.120 about fifteen hundred people, there's there's no one in my 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.240 dating pool. So you know what, you know, I have 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.080 to reach out to social media to see if I 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:21.240 can connect with someone. You know, there was always the distance, uh, 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.520 kind of a factor with me being in a small town. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:29.120 And so my last my last relationship lasted about a 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.760 year and I met a girl online and she was 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.840 from Norway, and I was pretty impulsive, and you know, 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.839 I ended up flying over to Norway to meet her, 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.279 and she she flew to the States and met me 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.640 here a couple of times, and so, uh, it was 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.760 it was a good relationship, but it was difficult because 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.680 that's quite a distance. It's like over four thousand miles away, 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.359 and a lot of things to consider, and so it 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.520 became more of it became more of a kind of 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.400 a a fantasy kind of a thing that I was 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.120 involved in, and it took me out of my reality. 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.960 It took me out of my present day, my responsibilities 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.440 of doing things for my kids, my job and things 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.119 like that, and so uh so, the so the dating 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.320 life has been kind of hit or miss. It's always 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.200 there's always been a distance kind of an issue with me. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.280 But you know what, I've never given up on it. Though. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.680 If if you don't mind me asking, and if you 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.400 don't feel comfortable answering this, you know, just say it. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:34.400 But how is your relationship like now with your ex wife? 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.720 You know, I'll say, my h I would have to say, 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:43.600 it's amicable. You know that that word amicable, it's it's amicable. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.440 I mean, there's unfortunately I have to say, I mean, 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:52.720 there's really not a friendship because of the way things 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.239 went down according to me and my book, so my 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.080 my certain boundaries, my values of you know, from the 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.520 moment that we decide to get married and have children, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.000 there was something there that there. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.760 Were some things there that meant a lot to me. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:11.200 And and in a sense that was you know, it 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.120 wasn't what she wanted anymore, and. 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.360 Uh it would it would. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.400 Probably be different if the I mean, I I wish 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.280 there was a friendship, but I think that there are 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.840 some things there that I'm not sure if it's because 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.440 I'm a Scorpio that once you cross the line with 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.120 me that there's once once you have bad blood, it's 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.000 like it's kind of no going back unless you can 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.680 really have a conversation and both people can be authentic 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.200 and genuine about it with a lot of humility and humbleness. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.400 I think that's I mean, I'd still be open to that, 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.400 but right now, I think it's just amicable. 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.280 We're doing things for the kids, you know. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:50.239 I relate to you. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.679 Yes, yes, Scorpio power rule. 0:08:55.360 --> 0:09:01.160 I'm an aries, uh Joe Aries. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.800 I think I did in aries once, and I think 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.280 Scorpios and arial ares, I mean, I we kind of 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:08.280 bumped heads. 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.440 So they can they can bump heads. 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.080 Yeah, really don't really. 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:16.360 We don't, but we're an exception. But yeah, both there's 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.160 a lot of intensity usually in the relationship with aries 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:23.440 and Scorpios. But did you watch the show or how 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.520 familiar were you at the show before you went on it? 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:30.240 The Bachelor or The Golden Bachelor, the franchise in general. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:31.560 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.800 From the from the from day one when when The 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.800 Bachelor came out, I was watching. I was a big 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:36.400 fan of it. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.160 Do you have like a favorite season you could think 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:40.400 of or a favorite pass lead. 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.280 I think my favorite season, h gosh, you know what 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.520 I was. I was really impressed with the with the 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.079 zid Dale and Rachel season. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.959 Dale and Claire Claire Claire, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Claire. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:58.800 I mean I was. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.000 I mean you, Dale's is pretty cool looking dude when 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:03.080 you walk out of the limousine. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:04.280 You know, he just had this strut. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.520 To me, he had this nice smile and and he 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.400 just not clear off her feet and She's like, I 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.240 think I just met my husband. I was like, that 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:15.640 moment was like something and uh, that was That was 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:17.760 my favorite. I think that was one of my favorites. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.640 Yeah, that was iconic. Yeah, that was a special one. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.360 Unfortunately for them it didn't work, but I. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:27.000 Think but the moment still stands. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.800 Yeah, yeah, and you know what that and that was 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.520 That was my old thing, like with the blindfold is 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.600 like I believe in love at first sight, and so 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.800 that kind of moment is like, you know, that's that's 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.560 what I was like envisioning, you know that if if 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.960 Joan and I, Joan and my eyes met for the 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.560 first time and we had that kind of connection, you know, 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:49.240 that's what I was. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:54.640 Looking for, you know, because that's the that's a very powerful. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.440 First moment between two people when you feel that it 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.959 doesn't have to be you know, forced or anything like that. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.920 So yeah, so that was that was my favorites. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.680 I like that. I like that that moment inspired your entrance. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:13.200 Yeah. 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.040 Do you have like a type as Joan similar to 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.320 the type of woman that usually date? 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.440 Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, you know, she's blonde, 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:29.120 it's got the tall, thin frame, uh, sparkly blue eyes, 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.960 great smile, you know, and she has a certain sense 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.000 of grace and classiciness about her. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.800 So that's kind of like a kind of like my style. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.599 So going back to that moment of stepping out of 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.200 the limo, what was was there was there a spark 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.920 between you and Joan immediately? Did you feel that? 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.360 I think there was, you know, I mean, you know, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.160 and I from the moment I got into limo, I 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:58.959 put the blind pholt on because I didn't want to 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.200 see the ride up there. I didn't want to see 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.160 uh Joan. Yeah, I didn't want to see Joan as 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.720 the limo pulled up. I mean I was completely blindfolded 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.200 on the right to there. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.360 To that moment. So when I stepped out, I mean 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.720 I was I was anxious, I was nervous. 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.520 And then when you you basically kidnapped yourself. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.120 Self sabotage, I think they called it. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.040 I can't see they're taking me to an unknown location. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.160 It's they're going to keep me there for days. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.720 Yeah. Yeah, I remember they're saying like, okay, yeah, we're 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.000 gonna open the door. And I heard the door open. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.600 I didn't know which direction I was gonna be stepping. 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.520 The only thing I was that was guiding me to 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.679 Joan was Joan's voice, and. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.120 So it was like a leap of faith. 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.040 It was like a big risk, and so I with 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.080 every step, I was hoping that I was going in 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.719 the right direction. And then the moment she reached out 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.080 and grabbed my hand, Uh, there was a certain sense 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.600 of there was That was the first connection. I mean, 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.120 her voice, and then when she grabbed my hand, it 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:01.520 was like I felt a certain sense of security and 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.360 safety with her. And then being in that moment and 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:06.920 knowing that I was in front of her was a 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:11.560 very surreal moment. Then I said what I had to say, 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:13.720 you know, kind of like the deer in the headlight 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.160 moment and I got it out, and then when she 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.160 took the blindfold off, I mean, I was just so 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.559 overwhelmed with emotion that I was actually there in that moment. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:25.200 It was real. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.040 It was so real, and I saw our eyes for 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.959 the first time, and I felt the connection. I did 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:35.280 fill a connection with her, you know, and then whatever 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.320 has to follow after that was like, you know, up 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:37.920 to both of us. 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.120 So wow, you really hey, I feel like you really 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:45.200 experienced experience. You were really in the moment in that moment. 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.760 Because there's so many people that we asked that question too, 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.719 and myself being one of them, where it's like you 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.600 act like I think a lot of people really black 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:54.439 out during that. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.240 Yeah, the most common answer is like, oh my gosh, 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:58.640 I don't even know what I said. I don't even 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.040 remember it. I just completely blacked out because the nerves 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.400 and the anticipation are so high. But yeah, it does 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.360 sound like, especially with the blindfold, you were really in 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.640 the moment, kind of taking taking it all in, very present. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:13.280 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.840 So you step into the house and then you realize, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.960 oh wait, there's a bunch of other guys here. What 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.760 was what was that like meeting the guys. Did you 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.520 think you were going to get along with everybody? 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.960 Yeah, it was, well, it was. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.240 It was nerve wracking for me because it kind of 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.560 took me back to almost like my high school days 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:34.440 because you know, I. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:38.920 Was you know, I was I mean, I was a 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:39.680 kid that. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.400 Had little low self esteem issues and so put myself 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.720 in a group of people for the first time is 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.920 like comparing myself to other people. And so in this 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.960 particular croud of guys, I'm like, you know, I'm comparing 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.920 myself to well, what does this guy do? 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.320 You know, is he reached? Does he have a business? 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:02.080 And blah blah blah. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.360 So I'm I'm kind of going on mind space, you know, 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.680 just having a bunch of monkey mind about things. But 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.440 there was a lot of laughter, there was a lot 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:13.080 of camaraderie from the instance, and you know, you know, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.440 you know, you got twenty four guys that are like 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.880 in their sixties and above, and there's a certain sense 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.080 of maturity that, you know what. I was able to 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.840 like get over that and uh and just kind of 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.320 break the ice with everybody. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.200 And so so yeah, it was. It was a fun night. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:28.120 It was a fun night. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.440 Were there any guys, we see Keith gets the first 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.640 impression Rose. Were there any guys that you thought stood 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.400 out their relationship with Joan that made you a little 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:40.520 nervous immediately? 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:43.920 Other than myself? 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:45.720 Yeah, other than yourself. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.080 Yeah, you know if you were sized that, you know, 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.440 if you cause I would feel the same way, you know, 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.240 you want It's still there's still a competition aspect to it. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.840 And you walk in the house and in there there's 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.800 twenty something guys trying to date one woman, and you're like, well, 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.560 but if she likes him, I don't know if she's 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.080 gonna like me kind of a thing. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:06.480 Right right, I'll get you. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.520 There were I would have to say there were like two, well, 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.000 one Mark being the you know Mark. It's like, you 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.480 know what, you know, I think all the guys kind 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.600 of knew that, uh, you know, Mark's there because Kelsey 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:21.960 was like, you know, kind of put him in that 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.000 position with her hometown and fans kind of was just 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.320 already automatically attracted to him, and so it was good 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.520 to see Mark there. And so so that was one 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.280 guy that I felt that might have stood out in 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:35.080 Jones mind. 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:36.400 And then the other one. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.280 Was Pascal because Pascal has got the you know, the French, 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:43.600 the French accent, you know, and then this whole demeanor 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.280 is like okay, well you know, what is she going 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.280 to be attracted to? And an accent and you know, 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:53.440 this kind of flamboyant personality. So those were the couple 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.640 guys I always say in the beginning that I thought 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.800 probably was going to catch Jones eye. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.720 Were you were you making Pascal smoothies? Did you? Did 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:03.320 you stick to that? 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:08.320 No? No, no, no, no, not me. I'm not the one. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:09.919 I am not the one to do that. 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.440 Pascal's like, there's no one working in this house. Well 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.840 the other guys, they'll be working for me now, right exactly. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.000 I mean that that whole personality of being high maintenance, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:24.040 I mean was like Pascal, that's that's for sure. It 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:24.879 was entertaining that. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.520 You can say that is very entertaining. Let's go to 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:34.080 the prom date. You obviously shined on that date. We 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.959 saw you one prom king with Joan, which was an 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.520 amazing moment. We also saw that you didn't go to 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.199 your prom. What did that date mean to you? It 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.480 seemed like it might have been kind of a healing experience. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:46.560 Yeah, it was. 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.199 It was a It was definitely a healing experience because 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.800 you know, back in high school in nineteen eighty one, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.600 I mean, you know, I had the courage to you know, 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.119 ask a girl out the prom. I mean, problem is 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.119 a big thing, a new experience, first time experience, you know, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.679 and I had the courage to ask and it was accepted, 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.040 and so I felt I felt accepted. 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.040 I was excited about going. 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.520 And then like the week before the prom, I mean, 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.959 she decided not to go, and that just crushed me. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:15.919 And as I said in the show, it was like, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.359 you know, forty three years later, I'm going to my 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:24.240 first prom, and it was that was a spiritual experience 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.560 for me. I was happy, ecstatic about it, you know, 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:32.080 and had the opportunity for to share that story with 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:36.000 with Joan, and she listened and she cared about it, 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.040 and so yeah, it was it was a great experience. 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.960 And at this point in the show, like that night 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.840 and like after that night, where are your feelings at 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:47.359 with Joan? 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:48.199 All right? 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.280 Are you are you? Are they getting serious? 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.320 Yeah? Yeah I was. I was getting seriously you know, 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:54.880 I felt like I felt like her king. 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:56.840 I mean, you know, I felt like you know what 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:57.760 she uh. 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:00.159 She validated me. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.560 She and you know, she made me feel special, you know, 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.480 to to be uh, to be chosen as the King. 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.600 You know, over all the other guys that were there 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.399 on the date, because you know, everybody was there dressed 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:15.880 up and there you know, and their their best gear 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:16.720 that we had to chee. 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.360 Was from doing all the dance moves. 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.600 Everyone had their chance a little one on one time 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.879 with her, whether it's taking pictures with her or holding 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:29.680