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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batcher Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena.

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Speaker 1: We are here today with one of Joe's final four men.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan is here. Jonathan, you are in. So before every season,

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Speaker 1: Serena and I pick our final four guys just based

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Speaker 1: off of headshots.

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Speaker 2: We're kind of inconsistent with it, to be honest, but

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Speaker 2: this season we picked just based off of headshots.

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Speaker 1: You're one of the guys that I picked, Joe.

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Speaker 3: I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 1: So let's well, first of all, how are you you

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Speaker 1: doing good?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good, man, you know, just just living the dream,

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Speaker 4: taking one day at a time, and you know.

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Speaker 3: All's good.

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Speaker 1: How how old are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm sixty one?

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about like routine. What what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Are you? Are you going to the

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Speaker 1: gym every day? What are you eating?

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Speaker 2: Joe is trying to find the secret to anti agent.

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Speaker 2: You look amazing.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, I appreciate that. Okay.

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Speaker 4: So my secret, my secret sauce is two cups of

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Speaker 4: coffee every morning. Okay, coffee's already made. I said it

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Speaker 4: for like two thirty three o'clock in the morning. That way,

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Speaker 4: when I wake up about maybe four o'clock. I just

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Speaker 4: go grab a cup sugar creamer, crawl back in bed,

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Speaker 4: and I savor that first cup with a lot of

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Speaker 4: just kind of thinking about my day, do a little praying,

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Speaker 4: do a little meditating.

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Speaker 1: I could do that.

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Speaker 3: That's so far.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna have him up in bed next to

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Speaker 2: me doing deep breathing and meditation at four in the morning, now, okay.

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Speaker 4: So okay, all Serena. The important thing is that you

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Speaker 4: got to let him. You gotta let him drink the

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Speaker 4: coffee in silence.

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Speaker 2: I'm totally fine with silence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So and then uh, and then as far as like

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Speaker 4: you know, working out and stuff. You know, I try

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Speaker 4: to get to the gym, you know, three to four

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Speaker 4: times a week. I do five sets of twenty reps

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Speaker 4: with incremental weight. So whether it's my chest, my arms

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Speaker 4: kind of like ignored my lower for my legs and

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Speaker 4: so I need to focus on that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's kind of skiing leg day, Jonathan.

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Speaker 4: I know, I skip like le leg days are tough,

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Speaker 4: and so so I'm paying the price because I get

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Speaker 4: a little lower back pains every now and then, and

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Speaker 4: my core could be stronger, but I'm a sweet tooth.

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Speaker 4: You know if you put a if you put a

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Speaker 4: dozen Krispy Kremes in front of me, I'll eat all.

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Speaker 3: I'll eat all twelve, just like that cream shirt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: The secret to those is I had a friend whose

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Speaker 2: dad worked in like corporate for Krispy Kreme, and I

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Speaker 2: guess if you put them in the microwave for ten seconds,

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Speaker 2: they come out the exact same consistency as if they

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Speaker 2: were freshly made in the store. So when it's such

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Speaker 2: a random fact. But when I was on the dance

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Speaker 2: Stupan University, we used to do Krispy Cream fundraisers because

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Speaker 3: They met and they melt like butter in your mouth.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's like, you know what you're You put

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Speaker 4: one in and it's like you got to get another one.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, they're they're good, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: And then are you still working?

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Speaker 3: Yep, I'm still working.

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Speaker 4: I worked for a kind of a consulting company, kind

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Speaker 4: of in the shipping area of a lot of materials,

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Speaker 4: books and things like that. So so, yeah, still working

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Speaker 4: and I'll probably I'll probably be working until you know,

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Speaker 4: I've got my daughter sixteen.

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Speaker 3: My son is uh, he's in the seventh grade.

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Speaker 4: So my plan is that I'll continue to work until

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Speaker 4: they're both they both have a are kind of on

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Speaker 4: their own path and doing their own independent thing.

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Speaker 1: How do your kids feel about you being the gole

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Speaker 1: to match are at?

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Speaker 3: Well, at first, they were shot.

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Speaker 4: You know, they were shock because you know, they had

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Speaker 4: they're super happy. He's super ecstatic about it. My my daughter,

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Speaker 4: my sixteen year old daughter. Of course, you know, she's

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Speaker 4: things like that. And my son, you know what, he's

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Speaker 4: just a really thoughtful little guy. He's giving me some

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Speaker 4: good feedback, you know, like on some of the pictures.

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Speaker 4: You know, hey, he'll say, like, Dad, you you look

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Speaker 4: so handsome, and he's really proud of me.

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Speaker 3: They're both proud of me, they're both happy about it.

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Speaker 2: So oh that's so nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you? How did you? How did you

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Speaker 1: get on the show?

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Speaker 4: It was just something that just kind of came out

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Speaker 4: of the blue, you know, A cast and producer kind

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Speaker 4: of reached out through one of my social medias and

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Speaker 4: saw some pictures of me and kind of the idea

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Speaker 4: out there to me, and.

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Speaker 3: I was shocked.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I mean this, this was

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Speaker 4: a point where I was like, okay, well, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm like the Golden the Golden Bachelorette. I didn't think

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Speaker 4: about my age at the time, but I was like,

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Speaker 4: that I'm going to be interested in because everyone's going

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Speaker 4: to be older. And and then it made me realize

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Speaker 4: is like, well, wait a minute, Jonathan, you're sixty one

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Speaker 4: years old. And then I related to Jones's story of

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Speaker 4: she's sixty one, and so I actually listened to the

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Speaker 4: I listened to the program more. I watched it. I

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Speaker 4: resonated with a lot of the topics, and so so

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Speaker 4: I entertained the thought about going on the show. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it took me some time to really commit to it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so that's that's how that's how it happened.

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Speaker 1: What was what was dating life for you? Like before

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Speaker 4: On h hit her, miss hit her miss you know,

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Speaker 4: dating pool. So you know what, you know, I have

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Speaker 4: And so my last my last relationship lasted about a

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Speaker 4: year and I met a girl online and she was

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Speaker 4: here a couple of times, and so, uh, it was

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Speaker 4: it was a good relationship, but it was difficult because

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Speaker 4: that's quite a distance. It's like over four thousand miles away,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of things to consider, and so it

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Speaker 4: It took me out of my present day, my responsibilities

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Speaker 4: of doing things for my kids, my job and things

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Speaker 4: there's always been a distance kind of an issue with me.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, I've never given up on it. Though.

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Speaker 1: If if you don't mind me asking, and if you

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Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable answering this, you know, just say it.

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Speaker 1: But how is your relationship like now with your ex wife?

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Speaker 4: You know, I'll say, my h I would have to say,

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Speaker 4: it's amicable. You know that that word amicable, it's it's amicable.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's unfortunately I have to say, I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's really not a friendship because of the way things

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Speaker 4: my certain boundaries, my values of you know, from the

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Speaker 4: moment that we decide to get married and have children,

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Speaker 4: there was something there that there.

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Speaker 3: Were some things there that meant a lot to me.

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Speaker 4: And and in a sense that was you know, it

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Speaker 4: wasn't what she wanted anymore, and.

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Speaker 3: Uh it would it would.

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Speaker 4: Probably be different if the I mean, I I wish

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Speaker 4: there was a friendship, but I think that there are

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Speaker 4: some things there that I'm not sure if it's because

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Speaker 4: I'm a Scorpio that once you cross the line with

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Speaker 4: me that there's once once you have bad blood, it's

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Speaker 4: like it's kind of no going back unless you can

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Speaker 4: I think that's I mean, I'd still be open to that,

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Speaker 4: but right now, I think it's just amicable.

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Speaker 3: We're doing things for the kids, you know.

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Speaker 2: I relate to you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Scorpio power rule.

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Speaker 1: I'm an aries, uh Joe Aries.

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Speaker 4: I think I did in aries once, and I think

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Speaker 2: So they can they can bump heads.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really don't really.

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Speaker 2: We don't, but we're an exception. But yeah, both there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of intensity usually in the relationship with aries

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Speaker 2: and Scorpios. But did you watch the show or how

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Speaker 2: familiar were you at the show before you went on it?

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor or The Golden Bachelor, the franchise in general.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: From the from the from day one when when The

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Speaker 4: Bachelor came out, I was watching. I was a big

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Speaker 1: Do you have like a favorite season you could think

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Speaker 1: of or a favorite pass lead.

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Speaker 4: I think my favorite season, h gosh, you know what

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Speaker 2: Dale and Claire Claire Claire, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Claire.

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Speaker 4: I mean you, Dale's is pretty cool looking dude when

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Speaker 3: You know, he just had this strut.

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Speaker 4: To me, he had this nice smile and and he

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Speaker 4: just not clear off her feet and She's like, I

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Speaker 4: think I just met my husband. I was like, that

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Speaker 4: moment was like something and uh, that was That was

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Speaker 4: my favorite. I think that was one of my favorites.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was iconic. Yeah, that was a special one.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for them it didn't work, but I.

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Speaker 2: Think but the moment still stands.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and you know what that and that was

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Speaker 4: That was my old thing, like with the blindfold is

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Speaker 4: what I was like envisioning, you know that if if

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Speaker 4: Joan and I, Joan and my eyes met for the

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Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, no, not me. I'm not the one.

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Speaker 3: It was a beautiful moment. I was really happy with that.

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Speaker 4: I think everyone has to be. I mean I was

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Speaker 4: my journey to end, and so I wanted to play

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00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 4: it safe and go on that group date.

443
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 3: And so when my name was called or too.

444
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 4: Or that I knew that I was going on the

445
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 4: one on one date with Joan, I was like, oh God,

446
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 4: I was excited, but I was really really terrified, you know.

447
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 4: I mean to the point that I was like, I

448
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 4: was actually seeing myself not getting the roads on the

449
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 4: one on one date.

450
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, it was. It was.

451
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: It was scary, Yeah, I can imagine. And then so

452
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: you guys are riding horseback riding, yes, And then can

453
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: you do you remember the moment where Joan sees a

454
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,479
Speaker 1: hawk and it reminds her of her husband?

455
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 3: You know, I can. I can faintly.

456
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 4: I can faintly remember that because I mean, there was

457
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: just this open, open territory of all this this beautiful landscape,

458
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 4: and you know, we're we're I'm trying, I'm trying to

459
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 4: keep up with her on my horse, you know. Reason,

460
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't know whether to kick kick my

461
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 4: my feet the horse on the side to get him

462
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 4: to go a little faster, but she she had the lead.

463
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 4: So but I I do faintly remember her saying something

464
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 4: about a hawk, and uh, those little moments like that,

465
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 4: I think at that moment, I think it was I

466
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 4: was just caught up in the spirituality of that of

467
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: that experience because it was just so open. I have

468
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 4: Native American in my in my background chip wye on

469
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 4: jibwei blackfoot on my father's side, and so those little

470
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: symbols of like a hawk and actually too on the

471
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,959
Speaker 4: ride there, once we got in to that to that area,

472
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 4: I remember my head was kind of pressed against the

473
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 4: window just looking out and this dragonfly like just came

474
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 4: out of nowhere, like hovering on the outside of the window,

475
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 4: like looking at me, like who are you? Why are

476
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 4: you here? What's your purpose? He was just hovering and

477
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden just vanished and blew away.

478
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: And and at that moment it made me think, gosh,

479
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 4: who am I?

480
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: Why am I here? What's my purpose?

481
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 4: And that moment that connection of like I'm here for Joan,

482
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 4: And it was a really really expiritual experience for me

483
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: and to hear the you know, the symbol of the symbolism,

484
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: you know what the hawk meant for Joan, and being

485
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: out in that moment was a really special moment.

486
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: It sounds like you guys really were able to connect.

487
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: On the date. We'll get more into, you know, the

488
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: conversation you had later on about your divorce with Joan,

489
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: but just during the day portion, it seems like you

490
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: guys are having an amazing time. Were you still feeling

491
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: that fear of what if I don't get the roads

492
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: at the end of this or were you able to

493
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: kind of let go of that?

494
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that completely left my mind, you know, I was.

495
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 4: I was like in the moment, I was. I was

496
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: completely present with Joan. I was completely present with the nature,

497
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: present with the horses, and I was what was out

498
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 4: my mind was to see where our connection is going

499
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 4: to go from this, from this this ride, and so

500
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: I wasn't thinking about the roads. I was just trying

501
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 4: to be I was just trying to be there in

502
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 4: the moment and present with Joan, just to give her

503
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 4: as much.

504
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: Jonathan as much as she needed to see who I

505
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 3: was as a guy.

506
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: Serena and I were just in Copenhagen and there was

507
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: this beautiful moment where a hornet came up and then

508
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: it fucking stung me in my hand, and it was

509
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: it was the horne of telling me I shouldn't have

510
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: gotten the cheeseburger. I'm still really upset about that. And

511
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: the night portion with Joe.

512
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: I thank you for sharing that.

513
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: Of course. Of course, guys, the night portion with Joan,

514
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: we do see you be more vulnerable and open up

515
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: and talk about your divorce. How is that received and

516
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: in Yeah, just talk us through that moment.

517
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a tough situation to kind of open up. Uh,

518
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 4: that that wound, so to speak.

519
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: But you know what, were you expecting to have that

520
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: conversation this soon?

521
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

522
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: Okay for me.

523
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: For me, it was like the one on one from

524
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 4: what I've seen in the shows in the past. You

525
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 4: know that one on one that that date, you're looking

526
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: for vulnerability. You're looking to share something that's really really

527
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: happened in your life, that's impact, that's impacted, that impackaged

528
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 4: your life, the hurt, the pain, the vulnerability to be

529
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 4: honest to share that no matter what the risk that

530
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 4: if you share it, you don't know if it's going

531
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: to be rejected or not. And so, uh, there's no

532
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 4: way to hide my divorce. You know, what happened happened.

533
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 4: I recovered from it, and I'm a single father. I'm

534
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 4: doing the best I can for my kids, for myself,

535
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: and so how it happened, I mean, you know, there's

536
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 4: other details that I you know, I wanted to make

537
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: sure that I you know, I wanted to make sure

538
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 4: that I didn't say anything out of my own hurt

539
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 4: that's gonna, in a sense, be negative towards my ex wife,

540
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: you know. And but I wanted Joan too to know that.

541
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 4: And I think that in sharing some of those details

542
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: that the pain and the hurt is just going to

543
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 4: naturally just come out.

544
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: As I say it.

545
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: And she picked up on that, and uh it felt

546
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 4: good that she was very receptive of that, and she

547
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 4: cared about that, she cared about my feelings, you know.

548
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: And so yeah, that was a very important reveal for me,

549
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: because you know, there was a lot that I wanted

550
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 4: to let her know that, you know what, the moment

551
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 4: that I proposed to my wife, I was ready for

552
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 4: the commitment, the moment that we decided to have children,

553
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 4: I was ready to be a father. So I wanted

554
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 4: to see I wanted her to see those values in

555
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: me and what I wanted. And for me and my values,

556
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 4: it's like, you know what, the ups and the downs,

557
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: that's what commitment means to me, the ups and the downs,

558
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 4: the good and the bad, whatever, we get through it together,

559
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 4: and it just doesn't for me, and in the relationship

560
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: of the friendship and a divorce, just it completely blindsided me.

561
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

562
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: You talked about the comparison of packing your bags after

563
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: your marriage had ended and also packing your bags to

564
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: go on the one on one date. What was that moment, like,

565
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: did you feel like it was kind of healing in

566
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: any way? Do you feel like it was really traumatic?

567
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: That was a rough moment because.

568
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 4: There was something that I felt that I wasn't worthy,

569
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: and everyone was sit around the couch area and I

570
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: just snuck out, like no one even noticed that I left.

571
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, you know what I felt

572
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: that feeling for no one's going to notice if I leave.

573
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 4: And I went upstairs and I started packing my bags

574
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: because I made the decision that I was ready to leave,

575
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 4: and the moment that I unzipped my suitcase, it was

576
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: almost like I opened a wound. In my heart, and

577
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: it brought me back to the divorce where the moment

578
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 4: that I had to pack my bags and get out

579
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: of the house was that feeling. And in a sense,

580
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: I was unzipping my luggage to pack to get out

581
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: of the house. And if you don't want someone to

582
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: see or hurt, you know, they're not going to see it.

583
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, so yeah, I I'm thank you, thank you

584
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: for bringing that up, because that was very you know,

585
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 4: because that was a very important moment for me.

586
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like your journey, like this has been

587
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 1: to this point has been a rollercoaster for you. And

588
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: then receiving the rose after your date with Joan, did

589
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: that validate your feelings and did you feel like this

590
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: could actually be my person or at.

591
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: The very least a sense of acceptance from her.

592
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, totally validated.

593
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: When I got the rose after all of those emotions

594
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: and things like that, It's like, you know what I

595
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: said to myself, Jonathan, It's okay, whatever happens after this

596
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: point is okay. You got the rose. You know, as

597
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: she sees something in you, she cares about you to

598
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: keep you. So at that point I was like, well,

599
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: whatever happens happens. I felt validated and I was going

600
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 4: to be okay with whatever outcome happened.

601
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: So mm hmm. So the end of the day, you

602
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: were happy to not be on the group day.

603
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: You still want it to go on that group You

604
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: would have did great on that kickball day.

605
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know it.

606
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: From what I am, from what I've seen, I'm glad

607
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: I didn't go because if I would have pulled a

608
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: hamstring or like you know, uh frast you know, my

609
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: face on the ground, something like that.

610
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: No horseback riding a little more you romantic and comfort.

611
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: You won this episode. That was that was that was

612
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: the one to get Okay, We're gonna play a little

613
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: game rapid fire, get to know me with Jonathan. First

614
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: thing that easy, easy questions first, that first thing that

615
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: comes to your mind, rapid Fighter. All right, what's your

616
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: favorite food or cuisine?

617
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: Steak?

618
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: What's your go to comfort movie or show?

619
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: Jud Judy?

620
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: What's one one thing you would tell your younger self,

621
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: be honest, what's your favorite way to spend the day off.

622
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: Napping?

623
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: What's a deal breaker for you.

624
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: Smoking?

625
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: If you could go, if you could have any superpower,

626
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: what would it be flying? What is your go to

627
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: drink at a bar?

628
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: I don't drink, But what do you want my go

629
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: to drink that I did drink?

630
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, Grandma Nier, when did you stop drinking twenty

631
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: one years ago? Okay?

632
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: And then so if you were to go out for dinner,

633
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: what's your drink of choice? It's not alcoholic?

634
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: Uh, coke with a wedge of line.

635
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: What's the best concert you've ever been to?

636
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: Prince?

637
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: What's your go to karaoke song? Oh?

638
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: God, Hi, yeah yay? Under the Bridge by the Red

639
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: Hot Chili Peppers.

640
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that song.

641
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: What's the most advent truest thing you've done?

642
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: Go to Norway?

643
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: What is your love language?

644
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: Physical touch and acts of service?

645
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: If you could describe Jones's season of The Golden Bachelorette

646
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: and what word in one word? What would it be.

647
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: In one word? Jones's season amazing?

648
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Amazing. Jonathan, Thank you very much for taking the time

649
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: out of your day and chatting with us. It was

650
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: really fun getting to know you, and I can't wait

651
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: to watch more of you and the season.

652
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're excited to see where your journey with Joan goes.

653
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on today.

654
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Guysia thanks for having me.

655
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: And guess what I'm going to do after this one

656
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: of my favorite things that you just asked.

657
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to take a.

658
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: Nice You deserve it.

659
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: And to all our listeners, thank you for tuning in

660
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: to a Bachelor Happy Hour and make sure you download

661
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: and subscribe.

662
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,200
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Speaker 2: season of the Golden baucher Arette coming your way. So

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Speaker 2: thanks for listening. Bye,