1 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thank 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: you so much for coming back and listening to Kathy 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: and I. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: We are so ready to jump into another episode where 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: we get to give advice and talk about our lives. 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: And I'm kind of like a broken record season with 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: the allergies. I can't I just tell you. 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: A week after week it's for you to take medicine. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: You know what I want to do. I want to 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: go to Fiji and line a beach somewhere. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: And we can do that. 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Come on, now, 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: what did you think? 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: Okay, I got to say this coming off the bat. 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: When I first got married, I lived in Scotland and 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: so it was really hard for me to watch, especially 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 2: since it was right on the anniversary of my husband's death. 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: We lived in Scotland first two years of our marriage. 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: It is a beautiful country. I want to know why 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: you and I haven't gotten to get you know, gother 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: on a show, but maybe not. 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: One of the things I said was I am pissed. 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, Scotland. Really, listen, where do we go? 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: Why are you complaining? You got to go to the 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: Santam to compare and have cotton candidate? All right, let's talk. 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: When when Grandpa said Scotland it's coming out of the 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: Romance books, He's right. Scotland has this beautiful misty, you know, 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: beautiful moors. 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: The helicopter ride, Oh my god, it was the best 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: date ever. Dressed in royalty. She looked forgeous and then 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: he put the paint reckless on her. Wait, I want 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: to know does she get to keep that damn diamond? 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: Cholas? 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: But did you notice how they shared really similar stories? 48 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say I didn't, so 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: was it? So I told you before. She comes from Newton, 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: mass where I come from. She is from my hometown, 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: and my sister knew her uncle, so like, I felt like, 52 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: she's family here, Juliana, your family. He had somebody no 53 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 2: no, no one of somebody in her family had addiction issues, 54 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: and he was saying that Grant's dad had addiction issues. 55 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: So they on it over that. I love that. But 56 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: but Susan, did you did you wonder where their connection 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 2: came from at all? 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: I like her. 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: I like her a lot, She's bubbly. She yeah, no, 60 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: I didn't. I think they connected that night. 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: I really do. 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: But I also think he's telling everybody that he's connecting 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: with them, which makes it more disgus. 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: Right, he's harder to believe. 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: Trying to figure it out. Then we get to Carolina. 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, wait, did you love the dancers? They're 67 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: called highland dancers? Like I was one of the bag pipers, 68 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: and let me just tell you how difficult it is 69 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: to blow and get When he did that, Grant props 70 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: to you. That is amazing. But here's the thing that 71 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: the date was beautiful. Her pink dress was gorgeous. Juliana 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: really has good connection. But you know, I'm just wondering 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: where it came from. I just you know, maybe it's 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: been there all along, they just haven't showed to me. 75 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the edit. Okay, So then we get Carolina 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: on the group date and. 77 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: Knows Paldys, and then she gets blamed. But he did 78 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: ask her. When Dina was saying, you took him away 79 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: today too and ruined all of our times. 80 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: He did space. But you know what she I don't 81 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: know about anyone picked up on it. But when she said, 82 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, he's all the girls. I found this interesting, 83 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: and it's typical I think of younger women. All the 84 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: girls were talking about how they thought they thought that, uh, 85 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: they were having this romantic conversation. In other words, they 86 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: thought it was all going positive, when in fact their 87 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: conversation together was not warm, fuzzy. It was you know, 88 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: what's wrong? What are you thinking? And she was saying 89 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: she wasn't sure she's ready, And they all thought that 90 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: that conversation was about love and them being in love, 91 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: and really they didn't have a connection. They both were saying, 92 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: this is really hard. I just found that interesting that 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: the girls jumped to the assumption that they did. 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: But you could tell but her by her face. The 95 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: whole time, she was not involved. She was not being 96 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: a team player. It was a group tea and it 97 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: was the smallest group date that they had so far, 98 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: and she was not being a team player. When Zoe 99 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: finally got to talk to him and made her feel better, 100 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that was really cool too, and she did get. 101 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: A roo I know. But here's the thing. I think 102 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: that I can't help but believe there's more going on 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: than what we see because Carolina is painted to be 104 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: and maybe she is. You know, we know how edits 105 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: go zip it. She is someone who seems to need 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: a lot of attention and isn't afraid to go after it. 107 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: But I feel like there's something that we just aren't seeing. 108 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: There's something that just doesn't seem right to me. 109 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: I don't just feel like she could be moody, you know. 110 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: And she did take some if you will, in the 111 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: beginning on the show with all the girls on the couch, 112 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: and again last night they they didn't gang up. 113 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 3: But and then what was it? Seraphina and said, it's over. 114 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: It's just when we're talking about it we're just I 115 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: was imagining me sitting there hearing that. 116 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt again though, I feel like Susan, you're right. 117 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: I thought that was cold and a bit harsh. But 118 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: on the other hand, we don't know what was going 119 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: on prior to We just started out. And that's what's 120 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: hard for me on this show. I feel like it's 121 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: a little disjointed. Where how are we getting to? Where 122 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: we're getting But let's talk. 123 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: About how about the t and did you know the 124 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: Drenk Day that's what they call it. 125 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: I've never never heard of it. I lived, but I 126 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: was very proud. May I say, if you go, if 127 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: we're just a little point of factor, if you go 128 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: to Edinburgh and you say Edinburgh, you will be stoned. 129 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: And they all knew that it was Edinburgh, so I 130 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: gave them great props for that. 131 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: I love to tell Litia and Grant tied the infinity. 132 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: Now. 133 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: I like them together. They were they were really easy. 134 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: They seem to have a natural connection that they they 135 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: She is a nurturing spirit. I think he likes that. 136 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: And have him saying how he eats he ate alone, 137 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: and you know she was wiping his tears. 138 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: That was so beautiful Susan, did you I don't. I 139 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: don't know, but tell me I was gonna ask about that. 140 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: Does Grant. I feel like that's the only time he 141 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: cried on one on one I believe so, and that 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: makes me think as much as I love my hometown girl, 143 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: I feel like he's got this very strong connection with 144 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: Littia that I'm not seen with the other girls. But 145 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: it's it, you know, the. 146 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: List, it's the moment, it's what they're talking about that 147 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: brings yeah. 148 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now her Mormon faith and the fact that she 149 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: hasn't brought home men and she's only dated, has never 150 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: dated outside of her faith. I think that could be 151 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: really tricky. I really do. I mean you and I 152 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: joke about you know, your full. 153 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Bloodie on hometowns. That's where it's going to happen. 154 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: We'll see how that goes. I think that could. 155 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: Be Kathy, what did you think of Carolina had taken 156 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: Dina upstairs towards right before the rose ceremony happened and 157 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: did the hugging and the because Dina was on her 158 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: side in the beginning, and then she turned when she 159 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: saw things that she wasn't seeing. 160 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: Remember, she used to stick up for her. 161 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I was. 162 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: Glad that they kind of made up. 163 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like, you know, I have to 164 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: be honest. I feel like maybe there might have been 165 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: some pressure to see what happened when they went upstairs. Again, 166 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: to me, I'm struggling because it seemed a little bit like, 167 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: why is she doing that at the you know, they're 168 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: standing for the you and I stood for a roaster, 169 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: you don't, you know? 170 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: I thought she really wanted to clear the air because 171 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: she knew Dina had her back for so long, and she. 172 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: Or she knew she was going home and she wanted 173 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: to I think she felt it, she said when she 174 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: said to Grant, they're sitting on that rock. When she said, 175 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: you know, I don't I can't remember exact words, but 176 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: you know, I'm just not sure about all this. I 177 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: saw a change in his face, like you're not sure 178 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: it's over. Like so I kind of feel like she 179 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: had the sense she was going home and I'm not sure. 180 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I don't think she's as bad as 181 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: what they pin her out to me, but again, I 182 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: just kind. 183 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: Of questioned on every shif every show happened to her. 184 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: But I wanted to say one more thing that Grant 185 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: when he cried, he was saying he wanted family and 186 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: a family who would love him and have dinner together. 187 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: She said, that's exactly what I want. And he said 188 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: he felt like she was a safe place. And I think, 189 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, as as as good looking and all the 190 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: things that he has, I do think that he has 191 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: some insecurities, and I feel like with Letia he doesn't. 192 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: He doesn't. 193 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 3: He was sharing how much he wants a family. 194 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: And he's been sharing that since night. 195 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: One deep deep conversation they were having. I didn't see 196 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: him go that deep, like he listened to other girls 197 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: things issues, wishes, you know, but this one would This 198 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: one was pretty deep. 199 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: I like that. 200 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: But I still love our Julian. 201 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: Oh. I love Julian. I told her hometown. But to me, 202 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: it's coming down to those two. I don't know. I 203 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: feel like it's going to be between those two. And 204 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: that's why I'm really anxious to see. I love the 205 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: pre you about Juliana's father, Like I'm Battalian. I thought 206 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: I saw that. I thought, oh my god, the baseball mat, 207 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: the baseball bats coming back out. 208 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 3: Do you think scared him? Do you think it scares them. 209 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 2: I think I think it would scared the hell out 210 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: of me. Let's talk about who went home. Uh, it 211 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: leaves Carolina, Audios and Sarafina and Alex. I felt sorry 212 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: for them, you know, he he he sounded like he 213 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: had a connection with them. 214 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: And again you have to get it down though, you have. 215 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: To, I know. But what we saw for me was 216 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: a disconnect. What we saw was having this great conversation, 217 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,479 Speaker 2: not so much with Alex recently, but definitely with Sarah Fina, 218 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: and so I was like, wow, you know, I mean, 219 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: I'm do you see the big connection with Dina? I don't. 220 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: I liked her from the start. I like her, impressed 221 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: by who she is, Harris herself. She's intelligent. I think 222 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: he likes the professionalism in her. 223 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: But I don't see the passion. 224 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: I don't see I don't feel the passion. Yeah. 225 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: Maybe I am just jaded now. Uh you know, maybe 226 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: that's what the deal is, because I feel like he's 227 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: told first of all, I ran, but he's told everyone. 228 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: I you know, I want. I can see you having 229 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: a family with you. I can see having a what 230 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 2: you be my wife? I could see us having a 231 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: family together. Neat dinner together. So I'm sitting there like 232 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: I feel like we're playing Russian Rouletti or darts. You know, 233 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: let's just throw one and see where it lands. So 234 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: what what about on an our show? 235 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: We didn't know what was happening with the other women 236 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: and Gary at the same time. 237 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: You know, we only knew our moments, you know what 238 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: I mean? 239 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: Well, I knew that I knew moments. 240 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: Because I watch I look forward to see what happens. 241 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: I can't. I just so, wait, do you want to vote? 242 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: Who do you think it's going to be the fine? 243 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: Who do you think is gonna win? 244 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: Oh? Oh, I can't say it? 245 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 2: Who's the others? Wait? Who is the Who's the fourth? 246 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: We've got Litia, we have Juliana, we have Dina. Who's 247 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: the fourth? Zoe? Zoe is the fourth and I haven't 248 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: really seen a great connection with Zoe either. 249 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: They're comfortable too, Yeah. 250 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: Well comfortable. So if you had to go out on 251 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: a limb, who a you going with? Are you going 252 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: with Juliana? 253 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: I like it to be Juliana, But I think the 254 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: other night when they yeah, gosh. 255 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, well, I would like I said, I 256 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: want I want to be at the parade in Newton, 257 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: Massachusetts when if Juliana is the one I want to 258 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, I want to have the Golden Bachelor Bachelor 259 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: parade with the gorgeous young one. But I kind of 260 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 2: feel like Litia. They have a more a bigger connection. 261 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: But we'll see, you know, all right, Well, this is fun. 262 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: We can't wait for next week. Lenow, you're ready, Susan. 263 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: Let's get into the question of the day. 264 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 3: Here we go. 265 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: What's one piece of advice you'd give someone before they 266 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: lose their virginity? Susan, to me, this is so simple, 267 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: so simple. Be sober, you know the point. It might 268 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: be somebody you don't ever want to wake up next 269 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: to again. It may be a guy, maybe just a thrill, 270 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: maybe just be fun. You just maybe wanted to get laid. Yes, 271 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: I said that, but that's all okay, as long as 272 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: you do it with your full faculties. You've got to 273 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: be sober, don't be high, don't be drunk. 274 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: And not only that, make sure you're safe and make 275 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: sure you're in the right environment and that it really 276 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: has meaning for you. I'm sure you're not losing your virginity, 277 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: just but lose your virginity. 278 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: Oh no, I think seriously. 279 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no no no no. 280 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: Well you're asking me my advice to young people. 281 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: You think young people only have sex with people that 282 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: they want a serious relationship with. 283 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: I hope everybody thinks. 284 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: Though, Susan, Honey, what do you want from me? I mean, 285 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: and also, you gotta you know, you gotta protect yourself. 286 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: You have to use condoms, you know what I mean, 287 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: protect yourself safe. Well, now here's the thing. There's other 288 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: you know, there's other ways. I want any guy I'm 289 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: sleeping with, if I don't know him, well, I want 290 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: him to come with a lab report. I want his 291 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: blood test. 292 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: That was now. 293 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: I have a funny story about that, but it's not 294 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: for it's not for public consumption. 295 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: Okay, so we're going to get right into the fan questions. 296 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get away from virginity. Who even remembers what 297 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: that's like. 298 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: I'll read the first one, Kath, it's from anonymous. 299 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: Okay, go go, go. 300 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: Hi, Kathy, and Susan, I really need your help. I've 301 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: been with my boyfriend for a couple of years now, 302 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: and the other night he unexpectedly sprang a big conversation 303 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: on me. He was talking about our future with shared finances, 304 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: where we might want to live, etc. They're all things 305 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: we should be talking about. I just wasn't prepared to 306 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: have that conversation. Anyways. He told me that he wants 307 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: to have children, and I was really shocked. I always 308 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: knew he was more open to it than I was, 309 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: but I didn't expect him to want kids as much 310 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: as he does. He says he's flexible and emphasizes that 311 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: he's not totally sure. 312 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: Here's my problem. 313 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: I have the same feelings about my desire to be 314 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: child free. I can see that changing down the line, 315 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: but as of right now, I'm really leaning towards now. 316 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: Is this the end for us? 317 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven and he's twenty eight, and we both 318 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: the great marriage and anything kid related will be saved 319 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: for our thirties. 320 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: Thanks ladies to me. 321 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: It's an easy answer. 322 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but wait a minute. Did you see her at 323 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: the beginning? She was so shocked, like, isn't that what 324 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: couples talk about. That's a good thing they're communicating. 325 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: Well, it is a good thing. I think she just 326 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: maybe two years in everyone's got a different timeline. Maybe 327 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: she just felt like we're still having fun. She's twenty seven. 328 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: Maybe she's in her mind thinking mid thirties is when 329 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: she's gonna move in. Who knows, who cares? Really, the 330 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: fact is neither one of them is dead set on 331 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: having kids. This happens. Can I tell you not how many, 332 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: but I know at least three friends children's friends who 333 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: ended up divorced because it read just like this letter. 334 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, he's not sure, but we love each other, 335 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: we have the same goal. We want to travel, we 336 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 2: want to do this, but we're not sure about kids. 337 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: And inevitably one or the other came out they wanted kids, 338 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: and the other one came out definitely not wanting kids, 339 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: and it was a deal breaker in their marriage. 340 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: So Anonymous, what she's saying, he's flexible, Yeah, right now 341 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: he is, but he's leaning towards. 342 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: Them's he's not sure either. But she sounds like maybe 343 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: down the line, but right now she's not ready. 344 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: So my answer, my advice is if you love the 345 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: guy and you agree on everything else or many other things, 346 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: then take the risk. You know, move in, have the 347 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: conversation about finances, do all those things, and then when 348 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: the shoe drops, and that is you come to him 349 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: and say, honey, I've decided I never want children, and 350 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: he says that's a problem because I've decided I really do. 351 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: That's probably gonna be the end of your marriage, in 352 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: my opinion, because the resentment will grow on both sides 353 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: of the table. 354 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: So I don't think that conversation is the end for you. 355 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: That's what she's asking. No, it's not the end, but 356 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: it's youth. 357 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: It is. 358 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: You need a bigger conversation. 359 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bigger conversation is are you willing to take 360 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: the risk because we may end up on opposite sides 361 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: of the table and it excuse. 362 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: Me, But then doesn't feel a little pressured if we're 363 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: saying this, she might feel pressured like. 364 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: Okay, what day am I going to feel? Like? I 365 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: know the answer to that. You don't know. 366 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: Well. But the friends that I had their kids, the 367 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: ones I only know of one of my friend's kids 368 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: who was on the fence and decided they wanted kids 369 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: if they were leaning to not having them. The ones 370 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: that were leaning towards not having them once they were married, 371 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: they definitely decided they didn't want them. 372 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: I have friends with no kids. 373 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: I mean, it's yeah, but people with no kids, but 374 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: when one once in the other doesn't, that is a problem. 375 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: It's it's you know what. I hate to say it, 376 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 2: but it's like, can you get over that. It's like 377 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: if a spouse cheats on another spouse, or a partner cheats, 378 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, you got to you have to decide either 379 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: it's going to be a deal break or it isn't, 380 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 2: because it could go either way. 381 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it could. 382 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: And you don't want to resent the person that doesn't 383 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: want to have the children when you did. 384 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: You know, well you will if you want children and 385 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: your partner says no. And here's the thing, Anonymous, you 386 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: might get together you're twenty seven, you might be thirty four, 387 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 2: thirty five and really decide you don't want children. 388 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: That's okay, But it might think it's too late for 389 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: him or something like that. 390 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: Or he might decide he really wants kids. So now 391 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 2: you know you end up splitting ways. You got to 392 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: start over. 393 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's a possibility. 394 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: It's it's yeah, it's a possibility. I guess what I 395 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: would say to you is accept the risk. 396 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: If you love the guy, Yeah, exactly. We wish you 397 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: luck that. 398 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: Let us know if you get pregnant, if you get married, 399 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: if you move in and and by the way, when 400 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: you're doing up the chore list, make sure he is 401 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: doing the laundry in the vacuum. And if you need 402 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: a good idea for a Christmas gift, by the vacuum. 403 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: All right, question number two Marina right. 404 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: High ladies. 405 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: Hi, Marina High Ladies. I'm really frustrated and I feel 406 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: like you guys could be a big help. Right now. 407 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm thirty two and I've been married to my husband 408 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: for three years. Ever since we got engaged, my parents 409 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: have been hounding me on when I'm having children. My 410 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: husband and I have always wanted to be child free 411 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: and that hasn't changed for either of us. Well, they 412 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: need to reach out and talk to anonymous. Okay, I've 413 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: tried telling them so many times. I've tried this sit down, 414 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: sensitive conversation. I've snapped a few times, you name it, 415 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: I've tried it, but I'm at a loss. They still 416 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: are confident I'm going to change my mind. What do 417 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: I do to get through to them that I'm not 418 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: having kids. It's making me crazy and I need them 419 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: to can it. In other words, you know, what they 420 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: need to zip it. Susan, thank you, I love you 421 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: too so much. Here's what you do, Marina, put a 422 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: note in. Write them a note because they clearly aren't 423 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: listening to you in person. Write them a note and 424 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: say it is affecting your relationship. If they want to 425 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: continue seeing you and your spouse, partner, whatever, then they're 426 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: going to accept that you're never going to have children. 427 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: You're not adopting, you're not getting a cat, you're not 428 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 2: getting a dog, you're not getting a pet hamster, and 429 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: you're not having a baby. And if you don't want 430 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: to accept that, you're not going to see very much 431 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: of us. I think it's time to lay down the 432 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: bar here, she said, she's tried everything. 433 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 3: What do you think I agree with the fact that 434 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: you have to sit your parents down? 435 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: She did, She sat him down. 436 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: I know i'd sugarcoat it a little more and. 437 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: Say, mom, like you said, it will affect a relationship, 438 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: because I feel guilty every time you say that to me. 439 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: Why don't you understand we don't want children. We my 440 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: husband and I. It's our choice, you know what, You 441 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: just their choice. 442 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: You just hit on something really important. I don't think 443 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: the other thing that could be is that the mother 444 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: feels like in some way she's failed, because why, you know, 445 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: why wouldn't my child eye birth? I had my child, 446 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: why would my children? That's what I'm saying. So she 447 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: might feel like a failure the mom. 448 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: Why would she feel like a failure of her daughter? 449 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: Did she? 450 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: Because children? I get it. 451 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, like I failed some way to 452 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: my daughter. But you know what I would. 453 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: Say, she said she's tried everything. 454 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 2: I know. 455 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: Write her a note this time, just say it's gonna 456 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: come between us. You're you're making it hard. You're making 457 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: it to the point where we don't want to spend 458 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: time with you, because that's all you talk about. That's 459 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: what my husband and I are making this choice. 460 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: Mom. 461 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to disappoint you, and God, I hope she 462 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: has other children that. 463 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: Maybe they'll give her grandchildren. But yeah, you got to 464 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: just keep trying. 465 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: Or or on another note, I dare say this guy, Yeah, Mom, 466 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: we're trying, just not happening. 467 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: That's a lie though I. 468 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: Know then it's gonna be one you do, ivy app 469 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: We're not adopting, we're not getting a hamster, we're not 470 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: or if you want to be really cruel, Marina by 471 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: your mother a puppy, say here's something to keep your busy. 472 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: Mom. 473 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: Really, you just have to share with them that it's 474 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: your husband and yours life. 475 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: You're not bringing children into it. Sorry, mom, move on. 476 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: I'll tell you my my daughter. They talk about whether 477 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: they're gonna have a second child or not. I don't 478 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: weigh in. I say whatever you want. 479 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: To do it. 480 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 2: It's their life, their life. 481 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: But good luck, sweetie. And that's a tough one. It 482 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: is because it's your mom. I know you love her. 483 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: But yeah, Susan, are you wait, are you at all? 484 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 3: No? 485 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: Do not try, Brina, do not try. 486 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: No, keep on trying to tell your mother. 487 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: I know I'm just making a joke. Do you love it? Wait? 488 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: Do you love it that we agree on so many things? 489 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 490 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm shocked sometimes, but yes, yes, when you see 491 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: it my. 492 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: Way, I love it. 493 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: I love it when you show good thinking skills and 494 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 2: reaching skills, which means you agree with me. 495 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: Carry on, go okay, Lily, Hi, Susan and Kathy. I'm 496 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: such a huge fan of the pod and I was 497 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: hoping you could help me out with something. I graduated 498 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: from college about seven months ago and got a remote 499 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: job right out of school. Right around the time I 500 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: started my job, my older sister gave birth to her 501 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: first kid. I love my niece so much, but I 502 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: literally cannot babysit anymore. My sister asks me all the time. 503 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: I've been watching my niece three times a week for 504 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: the past five months. 505 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: I need a phone number. Wait, thick of it, I 506 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: need a phone number. My daughter needs a babysitter. 507 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm missing out on time with my friends, time with 508 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: my boyfriend, and I'm honestly exhausted after working all day. 509 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: My mom snapped at me when I tried to open 510 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: up to her about it, and told me I was 511 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: being lazy, unreasonable. My sister can afford a nanny, but 512 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: she doesn't want one because she doesn't want to spend 513 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: the money if she has a free sitter. 514 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: Me. 515 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: Lol, Am I being unreasonable? How do I talk to 516 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: wear about this? Love you guys? 517 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god? Can I say something? 518 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: You are absolutely right you are living. That's her baby, 519 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: her and you know what I'd say. If it's an 520 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: emergency or once in a while, you want to go 521 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: out with your husband, I'll do it. But I cannot 522 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: do it three times a week? 523 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: Can I tell you? 524 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: No? 525 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: I agree with you, but you know, it's a bigger 526 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: issue here, and I think families sometimes struggle with this. 527 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: It's called boundaries. And how about the mother getting on 528 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 2: her You watcher that, but that's what's telling me there's 529 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: a boundary issue in this family because Lily is not 530 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: able to set boundaries with her older sister for her 531 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 2: mother and nor her mother, and the mother is not 532 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: setting appropriate boundaries with what she says to Lily. So 533 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: the issue here is Lily. You know, we all want 534 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: a lot of our questions are have the similar theme 535 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: in that they're looking for a magic pill, you know, 536 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: a magic thinking what Susan and Kathy, what what could 537 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: you tell us that would magically Lily? This is not 538 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: going to be an easy conversation, but it's a conversation 539 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: that needs to be had. You need to gently and 540 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: quietly and calmly tell your sister exactly what Susan said. 541 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: It's unreasonable for you to ask me, I have a life. 542 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: This is your child. You need to raise your child 543 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: in an emergency, YadA yaddaye everything. 544 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: One specific day a week that you're willing to come 545 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: babysit other than that, I can't because. 546 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: Whatever it is. But my point is you, Lily, have 547 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: to set the boundary. You have to set the parameter 548 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: because your sister has already shown you that she will 549 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: take whatever you're willing to give. And then some. 550 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: Kathy I mean said unreasonable. How come the mother grandmother's 551 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: not babysitting to me, that's a red herring. It's it's 552 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: superfluous to the conversation. 553 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: I don't care. They just need. 554 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: And it's a sin because they're gonna get mad at 555 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: her over this. I feel your pain, I really do, Lily, 556 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: but you have to set your foot down or charger. Okay, 557 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to pay me if I have 558 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: to do this. 559 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's the money. I don't think I 560 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: have the money. She said she's missing out with time 561 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: with her boyfriend. 562 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: In her friend she is so time and has the 563 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: babysit three times a week. 564 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: Susan, don't yell at me. I'm I'm an agreement with it. 565 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: Lily, give me your number, really, trust me. 566 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: We haven't had this conversation a long time, but when 567 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: Susan's upset, she has a cadre of baseball bats and 568 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: she will use them. Do not, I repeat, do not 569 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: give Susan her phone number. But seriously, Sweeten, this is 570 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 2: all about setting appropriate boundaries and communicating to your family. 571 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: And you know what, sometimes conversation aren't fun. Sometimes they're difficult, but. 572 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: That does not fun. 573 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you don't have to have them, so 574 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: good luck. Let us know what happens. I'm sure you 575 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: love being an auntie, but. 576 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'm not like you love her any 577 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: less by doing this. But you need to set your 578 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: sister down and just say I think you're taking advantage 579 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: of me. What is your sister doing that she needs 580 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: you to babysit three times a week? 581 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: See see, Susan, you are a very different person than 582 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: I in that way. And then we're going to move 583 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: on to my favorite game. It's not She doesn't owe 584 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: her sister an explanation. Sorry. All you have to do, 585 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: Lily is say I can't do this. Next Friday is 586 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: my last day. I love you, and I love my 587 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: niece or nephew whatever, but I'm not going to be 588 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: able to do it. Why not because I am not 589 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: prepared to do it any longer. You don't owe any 590 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: one anymore of an ex so you don't have to say, 591 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: you know, why don't you get a nanny and pay 592 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: for it? What you don't have to do that, Keep 593 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: it simple, keep it calm. Sometime, I said at the beginning, 594 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: it's hard to communicate these tough things. Set the boundaries slowly, 595 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: and hopefully this will help you to set boundaries in 596 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: other parts of your life. Let us know what happens. 597 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: We were rooting for you, Okay, Susan, I want to 598 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: play a game. It's called icky or picky. Okay, okay, 599 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: so we're okay, we're gonna switch off, go. 600 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: Reading things that girls consider x or we both say 601 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: if we do think it's an eck or if they're 602 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: being too picky, and if it's it's not really. 603 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: A big deal. 604 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: So you and I can never be too picky. Just 605 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: say all right, all right, ready, all right. You know 606 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: I know because I have kids that use this term 607 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: all the time. But for any of you listening who 608 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: don't know, an ick is something that makes you suddenly 609 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: lose interest or attraction towards someone. Sometimes they're lighthearted and 610 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: just a temporary ick moment, but others can wind up 611 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: totally killing the vibe. 612 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: All right, is it icky or picky? If he runs 613 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: with a backpack on could care less? It's picky, it's picky. 614 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a picky eater. Yah, that's a dix for me. Yeah, No, 615 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 2: that's icky for me. Oh yeah, that guy that I 616 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: dated for a short period of time he only ates 617 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: certain foods and at certain times of the day. That 618 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: if that's what we mean by a picky eater, that 619 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: gives me the ick. If by being a picky but 620 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: if being a picky eater means he doesn't like art 621 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: of jokes, then it's fine. All right. 622 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: How about when you ask what he's what his favorite 623 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: show is? He replies with, I don't really watch TV. 624 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: Are we being honest? 625 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: We're being honest. 626 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: That'd be ikey for me. You think it's picky, Yeah, 627 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: I don't really. So the next time you have a 628 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: guy over that you're dating and you want to scrawl 629 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: up and watch a movie and he says, sorry, I 630 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: don't really watch TV, that's not going to give. 631 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: You the He he asked what his favorite show, it's 632 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: not watching a movie. I'm looking at what's your favorite show? 633 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: And he goes, I don't really watch TV. That doesn't 634 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: necessarily mean he won't watch a movie. 635 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: Okay, you're being picky on this, Ikey, picky, picky do no, 636 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: not all right? He doesn't wear socks with his shoes. 637 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: Picky, Definitely. I think that's cool. 638 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: You know who doesn't wear socks with his shoes in 639 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: his photo shoot? Guy? 640 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 3: Guy? I don't either. A lot of times I don't know. 641 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: He only wears his hats backwards. We can't be talking 642 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: about right. 643 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. He plays the air guitar when he dances. Listen, 644 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: if I get a guy to dance with me, I 645 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: don't care if these dancing and sneakers. 646 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: He's getting into the sound. It's not every song. 647 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 2: He's grooving and moving. 648 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: Yea, all right? He uses a three and one soap. 649 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 3: Oh he's such a man. I'm just not sharing the soap. 650 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: That's big, and you. 651 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: Know what, I want to know what the three in 652 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: one are. But let's not go there, all right. Let's see. Oh, 653 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: he plays guitar and he's really bad at it. Ky, 654 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: that's kind of icky. Can I just tell you though, 655 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 2: my son in law and I can say this because 656 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna listen to this podcast. My 657 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 2: son in law loves the Beatles, and I was babysitting 658 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: this weekend and he was, uh, they were get ready 659 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: to go out, and he was making us all breakfast. 660 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: He loves the Beatles. He was playing. He plays Beatles 661 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 2: songs for my granddaughter and he sings with them. Oh, Susan, 662 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 2: it is when I tell you tone deaf my daughter. 663 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 2: Let me just say his wife has perfect pitch, she's 664 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: saying in her In her college glee club, she was 665 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: the pitch fork. They didn't need a you know, uh, 666 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: they would just say, Caitlin, give us a seat, give 667 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 2: us Oh my god, I'm listening going this, My grandchildren 668 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 2: are either going to, you know, have careers on stage, 669 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: or they are going people are going to be walking out. Okay, 670 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: go ahead, all right. 671 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: He vapes a lot, and it's always flavors like watermelon ice. 672 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: Oh I like watermelon ice. 673 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 2: See you vape to me, I won't date the guy 674 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 2: who vapes. So for me, no, it's not icky, it's 675 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: lights out for me. 676 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 3: That's not a choice. It's ikey or picky. Follow the 677 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 3: rules of the games. 678 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: Look who's talking. She couldn't figure out moral quandaries, so 679 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 2: we had to come up with three games. Okay, whatever, 680 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: all right? He uses Snapchat and asks you for yours. 681 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 2: I don't know any adult anymore. He uses Snapchat, do you? 682 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: That's all my kids use, young kids not our son 683 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: is not our age, but it's my son. I mean 684 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: thirty six, that's all they use. That's maybe picky. 685 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: That's some feeling. Who cares? He calls women females. That's 686 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: just picky, picky. He's a bad tipper. 687 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: Wait, he uses a ton of emojis when he texts 688 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: now in the beginning, I would. 689 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: Think, okay, it's picky, but it's not icky. 690 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 2: It's just picky. He's a bad tipper. I'm breaking the 691 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 2: rules again. I'm out. I'm out, You're out. It's a 692 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: red flag. And we just broke up, all right. 693 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: His Instagram following list is ninety eight percent Instagram models. 694 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: That's also we just broke up. That's way beyond it. 695 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: Okay, he has a ton of pictures with fish. 696 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm breaking up with guys fast and furious hair. I'm out. 697 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: Wait, are these questions that somebody that's a potential date 698 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: or just somebody in general, Like. 699 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 3: He's a fisherman that he likes to fish. 700 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: That's I don't care. I don't want to look at 701 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 2: it now. Okay. He excessively identifies with his Harry Potter 702 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 2: house Dicky. 703 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 3: I say no more. Okay. 704 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: His mood is entirely dependent on how well his football 705 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: team does, even if. 706 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 3: He doesn't have money on the game. 707 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's ike Yeah, it's about Ikey for ten seconds. 708 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: Then it's just who cares. He speaks to you and 709 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 2: baby top Oh, Susan, I know you. That was Kathy 710 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 2: talking to you with baby dot. 711 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 3: That was just maybe once to try to be funny. 712 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, okay. 713 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: He thinks reading fiction books is a waste of time. 714 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: That to me, my well, I read a ton of fiction. 715 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 2: My husband read mostly biographies, so I think that's really 716 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 2: Picky read as long as as long as he reads, 717 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: as long as he's reading and it's not staring at 718 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 2: pictures of naked women, I'm good, all right. Listens to podcasts, 719 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: particularly Golden Hour on Bachelor Happy Hours, get them my 720 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: red reds. 721 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 3: No. 722 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 2: Listen to podcasts on how to be an Alpha male. 723 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 2: Oh oh see there's Icky, Picky, and then there's ew 724 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: and then there's you're out the door. 725 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: Oh god, he cries if you call him out when 726 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: he's in the roll, he cries. 727 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 2: Well, men can cry. 728 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 3: I like the man that cries. I like a man 729 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 3: that could cry. I really do. But when you call 730 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: him out and he's wrong, he cry. 731 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 2: And you know why is crying, Susan, when you call 732 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: him out? How good you slapped him? You slapped him? 733 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: So I don't hit No, no, no, don't ever say 734 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: that I would never hit you. 735 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 2: Cat. Well, I'm never wrong. I'm never wrong. 736 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 3: So yeah, well this is true. Wowkey and picky and. 737 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: Have icky picky oo? And what was I thinking when 738 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: I accepted a date with this guy? Or I never 739 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 2: want you to darken my doorway again? I mean, okay, 740 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: it's very fluid. You and I have a very fluid spectrum. 741 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: But we can start with telling you what you know what, Kathy, 742 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: would I really wish and people out there listening, I. 743 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 3: Bet you wish it to either for yourselves or for. 744 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: Us, that we had somebody to talk about out whether 745 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: he's well. 746 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: Here's no, here's the thing. Here's the thing for all 747 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 2: you listeners. Susan and I we joke around. We have 748 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: been a date. We both have had dates, but we're 749 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: both speaking of Hicky and Picky. We both are looking. 750 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 2: We are both Picky, and we're looking for the guy 751 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 2: that we want to spend this last great chapter with. 752 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 2: And so we'll have a date with a guy a 753 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 2: couple of dates. Rumor has it that Susan has a 754 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: date tonight. Well, we'll be asking her how it goes. 755 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 2: You know, it's a first date. Maybe it'll go well, 756 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: maybe it won't. It's a second Oh, you're right, it's oh, 757 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 2: it's a second day. Whoa what happens on the second day? 758 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 3: Nothing made me kiss him? But that's it. 759 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 2: Susan loves because she's always telling me I want a 760 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 2: man who knows how to make out. 761 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 3: I mean, and if you can't make out, just keep 762 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 3: on going. 763 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: Susan doesn't care he lives in a tent under the bridge. 764 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: I do, no, I do, no, yes, I I can't 765 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: want to. They live on the boat. I care if 766 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: they live on the bridge. 767 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: Wait, what's wrong with on my boats? What's wrong with 768 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 2: living on a boat? 769 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 3: No? I wasn't referring to a yacht, Kathy or. 770 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 2: A house, but oh, okay, you know what I would 771 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: kind of start. I want to gotcha, I would want 772 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 2: to jump out of an airplane. That's one of my things. 773 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: And I kind of like to live on a houseboat 774 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 2: if I had a yeah. 775 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 3: For a little bit, not permitted address, unless you really. 776 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: How about a yacht in San Tropez? 777 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 3: Okay, then we talk Yeah, never say. 778 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 2: Susan, have you not learned yet? 779 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 3: Never? 780 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: Never say never? That's the title of this podcast. Never. 781 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: This is going to wrap it up for this and 782 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: we definitely want your opinion on Icky Picky and you. 783 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us for this episode of Batchelor 784 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 1: Happy Hours Golden Hour. 785 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: Listen. If you didn't have fun today, you do not 786 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: have a fun factor in you you. We really hope 787 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: you enjoyed this. Please follow Bachelor Happy Hour and we 788 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 2: have new episodes coming out all the time. Sometimes we 789 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: have guests. Sometimes we're just auditioning our advice. Sometimes we're 790 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: just giving you some insight into what Susan's and my 791 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 2: life is really. 792 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: Like yeah, really spill and we get a little bit 793 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: each time. 794 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 2: That's right, and you got it. Tune you next time 795 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: because I promise you the first question I'm going to 796 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: be asking Susan is I was your day how is 797 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 2: your day? 798 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 3: Okay? 799 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: Hey, ladies and gentlemen, make sure you submit your questions 800 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: to us, because without them, we have nothing to talk about. 801 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: Now I shouldn't say that, because we have plenty to 802 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: talk about, but we do like reading your questions, and 803 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: you know how to do it. 804 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 3: You can go to. 805 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour, or now you can 806 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: dm us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. 807 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 2: Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app, 808 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to podcasts till next time. 809 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: Day warm through the rest of this winter because it's 810 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: almost overweight Kathy, Real quick, did you notice the days 811 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: are just a teeny tiny bit longer? 812 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 2: There you go, we're heading towards the light. So we're 813 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 2: heading towards the light. Have a great week. To see 814 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 2: you next time.