Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Kaddy.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and Pee arm drawn Y live from
Speaker 2: Studio C Signor deep within the stinking bowels of the
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Giddy and Tormation Complex, on this Wednesday, the
Speaker 2: seventeenth of June, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Jack is on the way and we'll be here in
Speaker 2: moments to discuss the news of the day and the
Speaker 2: enduring issues the face America and mankind. I have totally
Speaker 2: lost track of the time I was waiting for I
Speaker 2: was waiting for Jack to show open the studio and
Speaker 2: then I'm like, okay, we're about to start, because you know,
Speaker 2: we run like clockwork around here exactly and you're not
Speaker 2: a paris. I totally completely lost track of the time.
Speaker 2: The title of the show is you make the title.
Speaker 2: It's People's choice Deal or no Deal. That could be
Speaker 2: one of them, and the other one is I don't know,
Speaker 2: dropping truth bombs on your head. There you go, right
Speaker 2: on your head. Oh that's perfect because that's what Trump
Speaker 2: threatened me. Is uh, we're gonna go back to dropping
Speaker 2: bombs on their head? Is there any he said that
Speaker 2: just a little bit ago in France. Is there anybody
Speaker 2: in the world that thinks that that's a possibility. No,
Speaker 2: including the people that were at war with using my
Speaker 2: finger quotes. So they don't believe that. So don't don't
Speaker 2: You're you're.
Speaker 3: The parent in the grocery store that I hear in
Speaker 3: the other aisle saying for the fifteenth time, you better stop,
Speaker 3: you better stop, as the kid does all kinds of
Speaker 3: crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh another threat, You're gonna bomp drop bombs on our heads?
Speaker 2: Are you? Oh? Boy, here you are? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 2: How does he not get that? Also could have made
Speaker 2: reference to Russia on the rocks really interesting the situation
Speaker 2: happening in Russia. How about the fire they've Russia fired
Speaker 2: on a British boat in the English Channel. Did you
Speaker 2: follow this story? Yeah? Actually I talked about it when
Speaker 2: you were briefly out. Yeah, they sent a shot across
Speaker 2: the bow. It was clearly a warning shot. But still
Speaker 2: that's crazy. Oh yeah, yeah. Angians for Israel h boarding
Speaker 2: a Russian shadow Fleet tanker apparently, and there's a lot
Speaker 2: more too. Some Russian guys and the hirees of Russia
Speaker 2: were just found guilty essentially or or indicted for a
Speaker 2: bunch of arson attacks directed at Keir Starmer and his property. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Russia is printing money so fast to deal with their
Speaker 2: crushed wartime economy that inflation is about to go hyper bad.
Speaker 2: And then and Putin's getting more and more pressure from
Speaker 2: the elites. If I were those elites, I would stay
Speaker 2: away from windows opener otherwise. But yeah, things things are
Speaker 2: building there in Russia. So we'll talk more about the
Speaker 2: whole war with Iran. The details of the peace deal
Speaker 2: continue to leak out. What's true and what's not.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say, but, like we're saying yesterday, if
Speaker 3: there's stuff favorable to the United States, you'd think we
Speaker 3: would say that out loud. You wouldn't think we'd keep
Speaker 3: that quiet. Seems pretty weird. I saw JD. Vans on
Speaker 3: a couple of different shows. We'll play the audio for
Speaker 3: you say, there's a lot of moving parts, and there
Speaker 3: are reasons of sensitivity with a lot of the Arab
Speaker 3: nations on why we can't. I want to get this
Speaker 3: stuff out right away, but there's sensitivity with the Arab
Speaker 3: nations up I don't. I can't tell you. I personally
Speaker 3: understand exactly what's going on, but with the sensitivity, we
Speaker 3: can't allow this. Well, it'll be out today or certainly
Speaker 3: by Friday, or right after the deal is sign will
Speaker 3: announce Okay, I'm not an it someday I'm not an idiot.
Speaker 2: I'm not an idiot. Nobody's despite the evidence, Despite the
Speaker 2: evidence you could put on a chart, they would show
Speaker 2: him an idiot. The world is not an idiot when
Speaker 2: when you're you're making up all kinds of reasons why
Speaker 2: we got to sign the deal. Go ahead, sign some
Speaker 2: deal with somebody for a house, for a job, for anything.
Speaker 3: Where I can't I'd love to give you the details.
Speaker 3: There's sensitivity with a lot of different things. But you
Speaker 3: just sign this and then we'll you know what it is.
Speaker 2: It's the message, essentially, we've got to pass it to
Speaker 2: know what's in it, pretty much.
Speaker 3: And then he used a I didn't catch it till
Speaker 3: the second time I heard it.
Speaker 2: He's a lawyer. Lawyers choose words carefully.
Speaker 3: And he said, look, a lot of the stuff that's
Speaker 3: floating around is just not true. There will be no
Speaker 3: American taxpayer dollars that are going to go to Iran. Okay,
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be American taxpayer dollars money. Is Iran
Speaker 3: getting money before they do anything that we wanted them
Speaker 3: to do around the nuclear deal. The answer to that
Speaker 3: question is yes, they are going to start getting tons
Speaker 3: of money right away with the hope that they follow
Speaker 3: through on the nuclear deal, which makes you, guys.
Speaker 2: Chumps wow, strong stuff and accurate. On the other hand,
Speaker 2: there is no other hand. Well, on the other hand,
Speaker 2: Trump says that these new leaders are reasonable guys, and they're.
Speaker 3: Pretty nice guys. Jd Vance he literally said that. Jd
Speaker 3: Vance said, we played it twice yesterday. I think it's
Speaker 3: astoundingly ridiculous. The Reul Revolutionary Guard has come to the
Speaker 3: conclusion that they were making a mistake all these years
Speaker 3: pursuing nuclear weapons. Oh, I don't believe that, not even
Speaker 3: the tiniest bit.
Speaker 2: No. No, Trump Advance, Well, Advance is doing what Trump wants.
Speaker 2: Trump wants out.
Speaker 3: He's willing to make any deal to get out. I
Speaker 3: don't see how you can say we won the war.
Speaker 3: I think we lost the war. They're dictating terms to us.
Speaker 3: Iran is dictating terms to us that we will accept
Speaker 3: that you know who does that the winner of the war.
Speaker 2: Yeah. True. The headline from my favorite foreign or global
Speaker 2: politics geopolitics writer for the Wall Street Journal, Iran is
Speaker 2: returning to nuclear talks, no longer afraid of America. What
Speaker 2: do you think of that? Look, it's accurate. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: what you just said needs to be engraved in stone
Speaker 2: or perhaps just wax to save money. But yeah, Trump
Speaker 2: is so desperate to a deal. He's letting Iran, you know,
Speaker 2: dictate the terms loyause he can semi plausibly claim that
Speaker 2: he has deterred their nuclear ambitions. Right, anyway, Might it
Speaker 2: turn for the better? Yes, and I certainly hope it does.
Speaker 2: But oh, there's a couple of guys who are not
Speaker 2: suffering from Trump dearrangement syndrome. This is highly disturbing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, more details out on that crazy terrorist plot, domestic
Speaker 3: terrorist plot with the drones and the dudes with the
Speaker 3: snipers and all that sort of stuff. Cash Betel came
Speaker 3: out and announced yesterday and made the Secret Service anger
Speaker 3: because they said, hey, you know, we haven't arrested everybody,
Speaker 3: so we were keeping this quiet so we could go
Speaker 3: ahead and catch everybody. And now you've announced it and
Speaker 3: we'll never catch these other people, so uh yeah, yeah. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up. Where'd I read? This
Speaker 3: doesn't matter?
Speaker 2: The White House is now going crazy over the question
Speaker 2: of leaks from highly classified or private meetings. For instance,
Speaker 2: the stuff that Maggie Haberman and what's his face reported
Speaker 2: to Jonathan's saw exactly, the black Swan event, Jonathan Swan,
Speaker 2: the uh the very close meeting about what to do
Speaker 2: about the Epstein files. I mean they have who was
Speaker 2: sitting where, who was on the speakerphone, who said what allegedly?
Speaker 2: And the White Houses is pissed because that's some serious leak.
Speaker 2: And you gotta look at the guy who, just, according
Speaker 2: to the Secret Service, who Lord knows, have a bit
Speaker 2: of a checkered past. You gotta look at the guy
Speaker 2: who just wildly, improperly just leaked something because it was
Speaker 2: exciting and made his agency look good. Cash Ptel is
Speaker 2: a guy who leaks a little like that Cliff we
Speaker 2: used to play.
Speaker 3: Anyway, some of the details on the Saras plot are
Speaker 3: worth talking about. They're pretty exciting. Thank god they stopped it.
Speaker 3: How how close it was to actually happening. And I
Speaker 3: heard a bunch of reporting around the idea that it
Speaker 3: is not a sophisticated plot. I mean, these are the
Speaker 3: people always say the Keystone cap. Okay, right now, how
Speaker 3: good a plan was? I'll show up the fairgrounds, climb
Speaker 3: up on a roof right in front of everybody with
Speaker 3: a rifle and shoot the president. How good a plan was?
Speaker 2: That? Not very good? And that's why some people have
Speaker 2: to believe it's some sort of conspiracy. And if the
Speaker 2: president can't comprehend an idiot with that idiotica plan being
Speaker 2: half an inch from the success.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. But he almost told the history.
Speaker 3: He almost pulled it off, and that wasn't you know?
Speaker 3: That wasn't the most brilliant plan anybody's ever had.
Speaker 2: So we've we've lived a couple of years between the
Speaker 2: two of us, and if it's a question of malfeasance
Speaker 2: or incompetence, incompetence is usually the answer. Yeah, getting back
Speaker 2: to the plot just briefly. One of the guys who's
Speaker 2: picture you saw everywhere, bald headed dude with a beard,
Speaker 2: five ten two sixty, rarely left his parents' basement, apparently
Speaker 2: spent all his graduation money on his armaments for starting
Speaker 2: a revolution. Two things. Number One, jackasses who think your
Speaker 2: spectacular attack is going to quote unquote start a revolution.
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's nineteen sixty eight and you're
Speaker 2: in the Black Panthers or you're the weather Underground, or
Speaker 2: you're Tim McVeagh, or you're this fat idiot. It's not
Speaker 2: going to start a gd revolution. People are going to
Speaker 2: be very sad about all the innocent people who were killed.
Speaker 2: You will be executed or living a cage for the
Speaker 2: rest of your miserable life, and the revolution won't advance
Speaker 2: an inch, you stupid, stupid idiots. Second thing is a
Speaker 2: guy's five ten two sixty. I am five ten and
Speaker 2: a solid sixty pounds less than him, and today, because
Speaker 2: I'm flirting with being in the one hundreds again, lost
Speaker 2: a little weight. I put on one of my large
Speaker 2: T shirts and it's not loose, but I think you
Speaker 2: can agree I can get away with it. My moves
Speaker 2: are straining slightly at the fabric, but only slightly. And
Speaker 2: this is very important for me because Jack knows this
Speaker 2: about me. I'm the world's biggest swag ho. If I
Speaker 2: go to a ballgame or a concert, or a civil
Speaker 2: war battlefield or a you name it. I come home
Speaker 2: with a T shirt and I have dozens and dozens
Speaker 2: and dozens or really cool large T shirts that again
Speaker 2: would be uh, it leaves too little to the imagination
Speaker 2: if it's on them. So I'm very excited about my
Speaker 2: weight life.
Speaker 3: But you might be able to start wearing them again,
Speaker 3: so that'll be Yes, that's what you're exactly. Yes, that's
Speaker 3: the carrot of the weight loss, which would be a
Speaker 3: good thing to eat because it's healthy.
Speaker 2: For the record, wearing a usss ssssss SSN rather sorry
Speaker 2: submarine ers seven to seventy five the USS Texas, which
Speaker 2: was a submarine my brother served on and I was
Speaker 2: privileged to visit a couple of times. Cool. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: got a good opening clip. So let's start the show officially.
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Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Saul Goodman.
Speaker 2: Did you know you have rights?
Speaker 5: Well?
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Speaker 3: If you ever saw either the original or the sequel,
Speaker 3: better call Saul.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that lawyer character, very very good. Good for him
Speaker 2: standing up for the rights that we have.
Speaker 3: I love that. Way to go, Bob. You don't hear
Speaker 3: that out of our entertainment industry that often. We've got
Speaker 3: the headlines from Heather Myers, and then we'll get into
Speaker 3: some of the details on a variety of things. Wall
Speaker 3: Street Journal claims they've got some of the details of
Speaker 3: the MoU memorandum of understanding. They don't look good. Is
Speaker 3: there anybody calling this good other than JD. Vance in
Speaker 3: the President anyone?
Speaker 2: Anyone come across it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, lots on the way, stay here.
Speaker 3: Just came across a great economics thing about the affordability
Speaker 3: problem in America, among things we'll talk about.
Speaker 2: Let's figure out who's reporting what it's lead story with
Speaker 2: Heather Meyers, Heather.
Speaker 1: Well, The Morning, Joe and Jack, and the story with
Speaker 1: Trump and Iran is being covered in very different ways.
Speaker 1: This morning. ABC News says G seven leaders support and
Speaker 1: ready to contribute to US Iran MoU. CBS News says
Speaker 1: this more Israeli strikes in Lebanon, confusion over straight of
Speaker 1: Hormuz ahead of signing, and Reuter's Trump threatens to resume
Speaker 1: bombing campaign if Iran does not behave Yeah.
Speaker 3: And nobody believed that threat is real. And yeah, the
Speaker 3: European countries don't mind if we do a bad deal
Speaker 3: with Iran because they don't care for whatever reason, Iran
Speaker 3: gets a nuclear weapon obviously, because they had no played
Speaker 3: no role in this and they're not going to.
Speaker 2: Get nuked because they're entirely passive now on the world stage.
Speaker 2: They don't care what bad actors do.
Speaker 1: For Fox News this morning, major League Baseball softens after
Speaker 1: warning to Christian players sparked a conservative firestorm.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was very disappointed on special report that
Speaker 2: they reported on this story last night but didn't mention
Speaker 2: all the times Major League Baseball had permitted players to
Speaker 2: write messages on their caps in the past.
Speaker 1: Previous news, Hillary Clinton said former President Joe Biden made
Speaker 1: a terrible mistake by writing for reelection in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Well, she's right about that. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Writers is saying this this morning that warsh led fed
Speaker 1: expected to keep interest race study from the AP. Federal
Speaker 1: government seeks to halt the first US reparations program for
Speaker 1: black people.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she mean me that.
Speaker 1: And this is a small town in Illinois where so
Speaker 1: far people have been receiving reparations payments and the federal
Speaker 1: government wants to put a stop to that.
Speaker 2: I have I'd love the twenty five thousand dollars. I
Speaker 2: love to know the details of that who they picked?
Speaker 2: How you qualified for it? Where I grew up in Illinois? Heather,
Speaker 2: Do we know what town that was? Was it Stupidville?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Only, yeah, a bunch of half wits and only please
Speaker 2: stupid Hill? All right?
Speaker 1: From NBC News, Florida couple in IVF clinic's embryo mix up.
Speaker 1: We'll keep the baby who is not genetically theirs.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's such a tough thing those cases.
Speaker 5: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you got any who beat out Chick fil A
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Speaker 2: Oh? That in and out was the only guess I had.
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Speaker 2: Jersey Mikes. I'll be damned. I've never had the pleasure. Yes, okay,
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll catch up on a bunch of different news
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Speaker 1: Demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: Have I read it well? I've been reported that it
Speaker 2: includes three hundred billion.
Speaker 5: Dollars false false false. People are people you can invest
Speaker 5: if you want. I mean, what are we to do
Speaker 5: say nobody's ever allowed to invest? Now, we're not invested.
Speaker 5: We're not putting up ten cents and people can decide
Speaker 5: to do that, but that's up to them. I mean,
Speaker 5: do you want me to say nobody's ever allowed to
Speaker 5: invest in a country?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mentioned that a little bit ago that I
Speaker 2: feel like I figured out what Jade Vance was up
Speaker 2: to say. People talk about Iran is gonna get money,
Speaker 2: They're gonna get relief before they do the things we
Speaker 2: want them to do. They're not getting one dollar from
Speaker 2: the American tax payer. No no, no, no, no no no, MMM.
Speaker 3: Doesn't have to be the American tax payer. Do they
Speaker 3: get to start selling oil immediately Friday? When they open
Speaker 3: the Strait of Horn moves every leak of anything about
Speaker 3: the MoU says they do, in which case that they
Speaker 3: then they start having money to start trying to get
Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon or build their rocket program back up
Speaker 3: or survive, and then.
Speaker 5: We're gonna start negotiating the nuclear deal.
Speaker 2: This seems insane, right, Yeah, we'll take the pressure off
Speaker 2: then start negotiating. Uh. And and this is less skepticism
Speaker 2: than just curiosity. There's allegedly a big giant investment fund
Speaker 2: funded by the Saudis that Iran will get access to.
Speaker 2: But when, at what stage after they perform what tricks?
Speaker 2: That's you know, that's a critical question that's you know,
Speaker 2: related to at what point do the incentives kick in?
Speaker 3: That's the question across all of these these right, Well,
Speaker 3: let's hear more from President Trump. This is in the
Speaker 3: last couple of hours over there in France.
Speaker 5: We are not investing in it, and we do not
Speaker 5: have a fund.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: If they do it, fine, but I would say they
Speaker 5: won't be doing it for a while until they find
Speaker 5: out the behavior. It's a behavior thing, but we are not.
Speaker 5: That's a false story that got picked up incorrectly from
Speaker 5: a statement that was pretty well made. I think maybe
Speaker 5: a little bit could have been a little more accurate, frankly,
Speaker 5: but it's a we are not investing ten cents.
Speaker 2: There's a real easy way to fix this problem. Release
Speaker 2: the details of the agreement that we've made with Iran.
Speaker 2: That makes no sense that you're keeping this a secret
Speaker 2: other than to hide a bad deal. Explain to me
Speaker 2: any other reason. Yeah, just like yesterday, the editorial boards
Speaker 2: of the big newspapers are saying, essentially the New York Times,
Speaker 2: it looks like a duck. Wall Street Journal, it quacks
Speaker 2: like a duck. And you know the New York Post
Speaker 2: is it is a freaking duck. Well, here's Trump with
Speaker 2: a threat. You think the Iranians take this threat to hard?
Speaker 2: Do you think they're shaking in their sandals when they
Speaker 2: hear this? Actually the agreement now final? Or are you
Speaker 2: still no?
Speaker 5: It's a final. It's a memorandum of understanding. And if
Speaker 5: I don't like it, we'll go back to shooting at them,
Speaker 5: dropping bombs on the head if I don't like it,
Speaker 5: if they don't behave we'll go right back to dropping
Speaker 5: bombs right smack in the middle of their head. Okay,
Speaker 5: because they've misbehaved for forty seven years, all right.
Speaker 2: I don't think they feel that threat. I love Yuroslav Trofimov,
Speaker 2: the musically named analyst for the Wall Street Journal. Iran
Speaker 2: is returning to nuclear talks, no longer afraid of America.
Speaker 2: After more than three months of bombing and blockades, the
Speaker 2: US and Iran are back to square one, preparing for
Speaker 2: what promises to be difficult negotiations over limits to Tehran's
Speaker 2: nuclear ambitions. This time, though, the Iranians will come to
Speaker 2: the table armed with valuable knowledge they can survive the
Speaker 2: worst the Americans can throw at them. And I would suspect,
Speaker 2: as you've been hinting, no belief that Trump is going
Speaker 2: to seriously go back to work militarily. Do you think
Speaker 2: Trump's hoping that the whole sixty days to have more
Speaker 2: talks on the nuclear program. People lose interest at summertime,
Speaker 2: and people just lose interesting. He can kind of YadA YadA,
Speaker 2: YadA it away. It just goes away, is a story. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I think he believes the world economy, in the
Speaker 2: US economy will be aided enough that people will say, hellloje,
Speaker 2: He's done the right thing. Gas will go back up
Speaker 2: and people stop start talking about it. I mean I've
Speaker 2: heard a bunch of people speculate, and I bet they're
Speaker 2: right that toward the end of the first sixty days,
Speaker 2: it will announce we are making great progress, so have
Speaker 2: extended for another sixty days. Now you're really into the
Speaker 2: nobody's paying any attention, or you know, the fall right
Speaker 2: and just and and and all that. While they will
Speaker 2: be trying to make a nuclear bomb, and they'll announce
Speaker 2: in November of this year or March next year or
Speaker 2: whenever that they've got a nuclear weapon. It's not beyond
Speaker 2: the realm of hospibility. Heck, no Trump throwing some shaded
Speaker 2: a previous president here doesn't included.
Speaker 5: But nobody could have made this deal. I mean the
Speaker 5: JCPOA done by Obama. He handed him a billion seven
Speaker 5: in cash, gave him hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds
Speaker 5: of gave him billions and billions of dollars. But he
Speaker 5: gave them one point seven billion dollars in cash green
Speaker 5: cash from banks into a Boeing seven fifty seven and
Speaker 5: flew it into Iran and they stood at the plane.
Speaker 5: I have pictures of it, like, oh my, look at
Speaker 5: this money's giving us. He tried to bribe his way
Speaker 5: out any end to that. Nobody mentions that one point
Speaker 5: seven billion and hundreds of millions of dollars. They tried
Speaker 5: to bribe their way out of it. And you know
Speaker 5: what the Iranians did. They laughed at Obama and they
Speaker 5: said he's a stupid son of a bitch.
Speaker 2: How's that not exactly what's happening here. Well, the Trump
Speaker 2: deserves credit for the getting off his butt and doing
Speaker 2: something about the nuclear program militarily and the bombing. The
Speaker 2: cost terribly high and the bombing.
Speaker 3: Is not nothing, so it would have been the JCPOA
Speaker 3: after you, you know, set back their program by years
Speaker 3: by bombinant and killing all the killing the leadership and
Speaker 3: bunch scientists and everything like that. But the details that
Speaker 3: are out today that Trump says aren't true. But if
Speaker 3: they aren't true, release the memorandum of understanding, release the details.
Speaker 3: Then USNS blockade on Iran. Okay, they're going to start
Speaker 3: making money immediately straight off horror moves opens more talks
Speaker 3: in Iran nuclear program in the next sixty days. Three
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars to rebuild Iran, which Trump just said
Speaker 3: isn't true. Well, we'll find out, and if you want
Speaker 3: to prove it, go ahead and release the details all
Speaker 3: sanctions lifted on Iran. The sanctions are lifted, the money's
Speaker 3: gonna start flowing back into Iran. How they get the money,
Speaker 3: whether it's a palette's in a plane or flowing in
Speaker 3: from countries around the world like China and Japan. I
Speaker 3: didn't realize Japan got ninety percent of their oil is
Speaker 3: imported to them, and a lot of it from the
Speaker 3: Middle East. So these countries are going to start spending
Speaker 3: money getting trying to get their oil going again. Iran's
Speaker 3: gonna have tons of money and talks about whether or
Speaker 3: not they what they should do about their Iranian nuclear
Speaker 3: do two points.
Speaker 2: I can't be the only person from the last few
Speaker 2: generations that every time you say release, the next word
Speaker 2: that comes to my mind as hounds. Secondly, the question,
Speaker 2: the great unanswered question before us that we're clearly worried about,
Speaker 2: and all the editorial boards are worried about. Is Trump
Speaker 2: having done what no previous president had the nerve to do,
Speaker 2: and that's takes serious steps to deny them their nuclear program.
Speaker 2: Will he lose his nerve and give back all those
Speaker 2: gains and perhaps even more if mister Trofamov is right
Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal. Now the IRGC is like, Wow,
Speaker 2: those dudes are not willing to finish the job. We
Speaker 2: don't have to be afraid of them at all. And
Speaker 2: here's the moment. I think Trump showed his cards in
Speaker 2: clip fifty four, Michael.
Speaker 5: So that's what speaks, speaks louder than words. The alternative
Speaker 5: would be a worldwide depression. You know, the stupid people
Speaker 5: want to have a worldwide depression. And the stupid people,
Speaker 5: so you can only go so far if you drive
Speaker 5: somebody into the ground and it's a lot of bad
Speaker 5: things happen. Number One, the Straight would never open because
Speaker 5: they don't like floating billion dollar ships up and down
Speaker 5: a street where they're I. It's flying over him in
Speaker 5: mind you all over the place. So the trade would
Speaker 5: never be open. It wouldn't be open for a long time.
Speaker 2: Is there any way to interpret that other than if
Speaker 2: I kept the hammer down, we'd have a worldwide depression.
Speaker 2: I'm not willing to do that. We got to open
Speaker 2: the Straight, and I'll just negotiate it with these guys.
Speaker 2: Why didn't we force it open militarily? It's a really
Speaker 2: tough thing to do. It could be done. It's the
Speaker 2: same thing as I said yesterday. I really think this
Speaker 2: is going to be the final judgment. Trump started a
Speaker 2: war without the guts to actually go to war, and
Speaker 2: that doesn't some of you are praising that. I know
Speaker 2: people who voted for Trump three times who are happy
Speaker 2: he didn't ever really prosecute this war with like you know,
Speaker 2: landing divisions and forcing our will, but probably shouldn't go
Speaker 2: to war. Ginuing to squeeze Irun economically, that's with the blockade.
Speaker 2: That's a great middle ground. Give it a try. Well,
Speaker 2: we don't want a worldwide depression. I don't think we're
Speaker 2: having One quote from JD. E.
Speaker 3: Vans on the Iranian regime today, I kind of want
Speaker 3: to figure it out. How real are they? How fake
Speaker 3: are they? Yeah, we got half a century of an
Speaker 3: idea of what they are and who they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a super smart guy, JD. Vance.
Speaker 3: I feel like he's doing something different than what Trump's doing.
Speaker 3: I feel like he's like absolutely one hundred percent knowingly
Speaker 3: thinks he can fool us, Like he's smarter than we are. Look,
Speaker 3: they I've talked to these guys. They've admitted it was
Speaker 3: a mistake all these years to try to get a
Speaker 3: nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: They're good dudes. I figured JD out the other day.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this love hill Billy Eleogy. We
Speaker 2: interviewed him at length about his book, fascinating, truthful, honest, insightful,
Speaker 2: eloquent book, just wonderful. Here's a guy who moved fairly
Speaker 2: successfully in the dead, negativity soaked towns of Appalachia. Then
Speaker 2: he moved fairly comfortably in the Marine Corps, moved pretty
Speaker 2: comfortably at Yale, and then in local politics, and now
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. He's going around San Francisco in the
Speaker 2: financial world, and that's right. Fit in, that's right. He
Speaker 2: is an extremely adept chameleon and very very slick and
Speaker 2: extremely bright. He has realized, all right, I'm the veep
Speaker 2: under Donald Trump. This is what he wants. I've got
Speaker 2: to survive this to keep my future intact intact. Here's
Speaker 2: how I do it. But I don't. Sincerity is not
Speaker 2: something he brings to the party at this point. I'm
Speaker 2: not as willing to go go as far as some
Speaker 2: people in this war, which I'll explain in a second
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Speaker 3: We'll move on so we can get the mailbag, but
Speaker 3: I saw an old woman. I forget what publication she
Speaker 3: is from. She is one of the deans of the
Speaker 3: Press Core in Washington, DC, with some major publication. Anyway,
Speaker 3: she is talking on a podcast I saw yesterday about.
Speaker 2: How what Trump has done is not as quite as
Speaker 2: bad as the war in Iraq, but it's right next
Speaker 2: to it. And I thought that's a ridiculous thing to say.
Speaker 2: I went on for years, we had hundreds of thousands
Speaker 2: of troops, thousands of lives lost, trillions of dollars spent.
Speaker 2: They're not even in the same category. So how do
Speaker 2: you make those words coming out of your mouth? I
Speaker 2: don't know, So I'm not going that far. I just
Speaker 2: I don't think. I still don't think it was a mistake.
Speaker 2: The mistake will be if they end up getting a
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. God dang it, that'll change the world. I mean,
Speaker 2: you don't believe that, I guess. I mean, you don't
Speaker 2: think that's a problem. All right, your fools, you think
Speaker 2: you can cuddle up in the fetal position in the
Speaker 2: world will go away. We got mail bag on the
Speaker 2: way next day.
Speaker 3: Here, I have a really good economics thing for you
Speaker 3: from the disc I look forward to talking about trying
Speaker 3: to break it down. One of the reasons I like
Speaker 3: it as it agrees with something we've been saying for
Speaker 3: a long time. But lots of people are feeling squeezed
Speaker 3: and for all kinds of different reasons, and you got
Speaker 3: to look at the different reasons, and people end up
Speaker 3: in a situation being squeezed. You're spending habits, the choices
Speaker 3: you made in your life and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting. Maybe we'll get to that an now
Speaker 3: or two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd love to talk about that's super interesting topic.
Speaker 2: Here's your freedom loving quote of the day from Varnngpana. Oh,
Speaker 2: I didn't have time to look up. It's on my
Speaker 2: series on negotiation and then in the Art of Negotiation,
Speaker 2: listen twice, speak once, and let the silence work for you.
Speaker 2: It's the best advice I ever got about negotiating. Don't
Speaker 2: fill the silence. We can talk about that more later.
Speaker 2: Mail bag, drop us a note mail bag and Armstrong
Speaker 2: and getty dot. I'm going to keep it briefish if
Speaker 2: you can. First, and most importantly, got this email from
Speaker 2: news Nation teasing their stories hoping to get me to
Speaker 2: click on it. Uh. It's the headline is missing scientists
Speaker 2: man fears for his safety. If you are into the
Speaker 2: missing scientists story, you lack the capacity for rational analysis,
Speaker 2: which is fine some people do. I can't jump very high.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make me a bad person. Good lord, we
Speaker 2: have an interesting way to judge people on how high
Speaker 2: they can jump. M Drew the millennial right. Soccer is
Speaker 2: not a sport. And before you say this is just
Speaker 2: belligerent American jingoism, hear me out. Eight of the twenty
Speaker 2: FIFA games so far have ended in a tie. Really,
Speaker 2: I watched the last half hour of two of them Saturday.
Speaker 2: Both ended in one one ties. During the last twenty
Speaker 2: minutes of the game time of both, the announcers explained
Speaker 2: how both teams bench their good players because they had
Speaker 2: tacitly agreed to end the game with a one to
Speaker 2: one tie so as not to risk losing. That's a
Speaker 2: common thing. Apparently, they just play kind of play hacky
Speaker 2: sack at midfield till time runs out. Pathetic. I had
Speaker 2: no idea that that went on. The poor fans that
Speaker 2: paid money to be there. Do they know that the
Speaker 2: stars are sitting and they're playing hacky sack in midfield?
Speaker 2: Till the ninety minutes are up. Wow. Wow. So they
Speaker 2: want to advance to the next round. They want to
Speaker 2: have enough points in their little pool. So they're like, hey,
Speaker 2: we haven't taken control. You haven't taken control. Let's both
Speaker 2: grab a tie. Okay, let's not make this a coin flip.
Speaker 2: Somebody gets lucky in scores and it's true, right, So
Speaker 2: imagine if seven of the sixteen NFL games ended in
Speaker 2: seven to seven ties. Every week a sport has games
Speaker 2: or matches. Those matches are intended to decipher which team
Speaker 2: is better at the sport. If your matches aren't able
Speaker 2: to decide which team is better at the sport, then
Speaker 2: you don't have a sport. You have a feminine exercise,
Speaker 2: which is what sucker is. Oh my Euros can keep
Speaker 2: it, it suits them. Well. Love the show, thanks Drew. Wow,
Speaker 2: that's strong alligerent offensive. I hate it, but he makes
Speaker 2: a point. Let's see. Moving along to the Iran thing,
Speaker 2: which people are weighing in on at high frequency. Aaron,
Speaker 2: y'all forget we killed the iotola or something. Think we'd
Speaker 2: be in a better spot with an iotola and a
Speaker 2: status quo. I RG get excited about the new new,
Speaker 2: new new deal memo deal and come in for the
Speaker 2: big win, be more trumpy, Katie would agree with me. Okay,
Speaker 2: and this from Paul, I think it's possible we've made
Speaker 2: credible threats. Oh do you think it's possible we've made
Speaker 2: credible threats to Iran that'll be carried out after the
Speaker 2: midterms if we're not satisfied by then.
Speaker 3: I just came across a piece that I could explain
Speaker 3: as an optimistic view of why this is happening.
Speaker 2: The way it's happening. So we should forget that later
Speaker 2: because maybe that's what's going on. Yeah, yeah, I'm we
Speaker 2: are more into figuring out what's actually happening than selling
Speaker 2: you on one particular point of view, at least on
Speaker 2: this topic. Crest fallen in Santa Cruz, right, So I've
Speaker 2: been praying for the downfall of the irg Sea since
Speaker 2: that's two thousands. Through the years, my Persian friends were
Speaker 2: astonished at how up to date I was on the facts.
Speaker 2: I was very excited when this war started, very exciting times, indeed,
Speaker 2: so much promise. Cannot think of a bigger disappointment than
Speaker 2: how this war ended up. Maybe something changes, but I
Speaker 2: doubt it. I will believe it when I see it.
Speaker 2: God help those poor people in Iran. Trump has failed
Speaker 2: when it counted the most. Still a better candidate than Kamala,
Speaker 2: not even fing close. Well true, Yeah, nobody's suggesting that.
Speaker 2: Nobody's saying let's see and some as usual thorough analysis
Speaker 2: from JT and livermore about the MoU as far as
Speaker 2: we know. I don't need to see the MoU to
Speaker 2: know it's a terrible deal. He makes five points, he
Speaker 2: supports them all, but I'll just hit the headlines. One.
Speaker 2: Trump is pressuring the wrong country. It's like Russia Ukraine.
Speaker 2: To a deal with the current regime is a waste
Speaker 2: of time based on forty seven years of their constant
Speaker 2: lives and broken promises to too many groundhog days to
Speaker 2: think this is anything different. Thirty nine times we're close
Speaker 2: to a deal for nuclear material cannot be destroyed, nor
Speaker 2: can it safely be enriched to non military levels. That's
Speaker 2: just physics. We could explain that, but trust us on it.
Speaker 2: We'll love seeing it. I know it's a terrible piece
Speaker 2: of paper, etc. Well, rehash in a little bit later.
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Speaker 3: like life's too expensive.
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