1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Yes? 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 4: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Ready for a break? 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so much for that. 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 5: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 5: Were on with mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris, 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 5: and Derek Eagleton. 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 4: It is Thursday, September twelfth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 4: episode number twenty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 4: The Break. We are lacking the SWBC mortgage studios at 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 4: the Star, presented by LGLG is the world's number one 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: OLED TV brand for eleven years accounting see why at 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: LG dot com for slash O Ledevil. How's everybody doing it? 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: Doing well? 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: Excellent? 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: Well, we're rolling good. We're at this week two of 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 4: the NFL season. There's gonna be a game tonight, and 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: so the NFL is really cranking up. We'll get into 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 4: our normal groove here. Yesterday we talked about the Saints 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 4: offense versus the Cowboys defense. Today we're gonna flip that around. 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: We'll get into that a little bit later in the show. 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 4: But first things first, we got to talk about injuries. 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: There's an interesting injury list for the Cowboys and even 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: more injuries for the New Orleans Saints. Let's start first 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 4: with the Cowboys, though. Jake Ferguson and John Stevens both 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 4: out of practice for knee and hamstring injuries, respectively. Talking 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: to me about what we're expecting there and obviously what 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 4: happens if those tight ends are not available. 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, we were able to talk to Jake Ferguson in 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 6: the locker room yesterday and it just kind of get 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 6: his perspective on the injury that happened on Sunday, and 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 6: he said, whenever it initially happened, he thought it was 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 6: an ACL and I was talking to some people that 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 6: were coming off the field on Sunday they felt the 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 6: same way. But then those initial testing and everything came back. 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 6: He tweeted out, God is good and that's what it's 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 6: looking like right now. But still some rehabbing that he's 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 6: going to have to do going into the week. Obviously, 42 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 6: mispracticed yesterday, he wasn't even out on the field, so 43 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 6: they're trying to, you know, work him in a smart 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 6: way to get him back on the field. But with 45 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 6: that being said, I personally I don't feel like he 46 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 6: plays on Sunday, just given the nature of the injury 47 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 6: and the typical time frame that it takes to recover 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 6: from those kinds of things. 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: We've seen it in the past where. 50 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 6: It's more of a two to three week type deal. 51 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 6: Granted it's Jake Ferguson, so he could be back by 52 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 6: the following week against the Ravens, but I think pushing 53 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 6: it against the Saints, I think it might be a 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 6: close timeline for him. And then you mentioned John Stevens Junior. 55 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 6: When I talk to people, and I think Brian feels 56 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 6: the same way. 57 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: He's mentioned it as well. 58 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 6: There's a little bit more concern with John Stevens playing 59 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 6: on Sunday than there is with Jake Ferguson. Granted, still 60 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 6: concerned with both, but John Stevens still working through that 61 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 6: hamstring injury. We saw him out on the course yesterday 62 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 6: with Britt Brown, so you know, trying to work back 63 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 6: from that. But if they're down two tight ends, I mean, 64 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 6: we talked about it a little bit, there's gonna be 65 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 6: a lot of moving around that they're gonna have to do. 66 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: With that position. 67 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 6: But then also Marshawn Neeland was out yesterday with a 68 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 6: calf injury, was not on the practice field, So we'll 69 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 6: probably learn a little bit more about that and Mike 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 6: McCarthy's press conference. 71 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, before we get too far into Niland, how much 72 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: does that set back the offense if you don't have 73 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: those two tight ends available to you on Sunday. 74 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 3: I feel like though that where in watching the Saints, 75 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: and we'll get into it. I kind of feel like 76 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: though that if you had your tight ends in this game, 77 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: you could take advantage of the Saints and the way 78 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: they play their coverages. Really and I don't know this 79 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: is if they were just because Carolina has a second 80 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: year quarterback, but they were super aggressive with the way 81 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: that they blitzed this kid and the majority of their 82 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: blitz is and maybe they're worried a little bit too 83 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: about their pass rush that they had to bring corners 84 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 3: and slots and you know, there was a lot safeties. 85 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: There was a lot going on here. And I kind 86 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: of feel like that if you have the tight ends, 87 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: if you have a Ferguson or somebody like that, and 88 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: you know you're you're dealing with uh, you know, you're 89 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: dealing with Tyron Matthew and and and and and guys 90 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: like that, and Will Harris that you know, you want 91 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: to kind of get these guys and you know, you 92 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: want to make them have to play and cover a 93 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: little bit. So I think it hurts Dallas in that 94 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: way because the secondary for the Saints, I don't think 95 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: it's as nearly as good as what we saw last 96 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: week in Cleveland. But they've got a couple of guys. 97 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: Depending on what happens with Marshawn Lattimore, we'll get into 98 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: that a little bit more with his injury and stuff 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: like that. Uh Adobo the uh the the the other 100 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: corner there. 101 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 7: Uh. 102 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: You know, I kind of feel like that maybe there's 103 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: some opportunity here, but these safeties are kind of an 104 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: area that I would like to really trying to attack 105 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: if I could. Yeah. 106 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 8: Absolutely, And the we well, we know just overall how 107 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 8: important the tight end position is for the quarterback like 108 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 8: Dak So that's always unfortunate. But they do have guys 109 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 8: that can still help in there. But the good thing 110 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 8: is what I think Dallas does have some favorable matchups 111 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 8: and you still have some really really good receivers on 112 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 8: the offense that you can really try to take advantage of. 113 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 8: And still with the running game, that's still a question 114 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 8: mark because I don't think we truly have a sense 115 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 8: a good sense of what the running game for Dallas 116 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 8: is at the moment. But I think that the Saints defense, 117 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 8: and we'll get into it Brian will do his accounting report, 118 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 8: but it seems like overall it might be a matchup 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 8: where the Cowboys still have the upper hand despite being 120 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 8: down at tight end. 121 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, could be the Hunter Lipke, you know that that's 122 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: where they can get around, you know, with you know, 123 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: playing with him as that you know, detached player, the 124 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: move guy, the h the full back. You know, maybe 125 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: you jump into some of those, you know, play with 126 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: with Schoonmaker and span Ford, But the third tied end 127 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: is going to be Hunter Lipke and how he plays. 128 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: So I have a feeling that. But man, this this 129 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: Saints bunch at the at the safety spot, if you 130 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: had somebody that could play vertically, because they play a 131 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: lot of single eye stuff, you know, I mean, and 132 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: maybe it had to do with Carolina that they just 133 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 3: there they they knew that they could overwhelm Bryce Young. 134 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: But if you're gonna play a lot of single high man. 135 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 3: That's where it seems like that Ferguson has that ability 136 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: to get up the seam and and then you can 137 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: hit some hit some plays up there that way. 138 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: This game will tell me a lot about Schoonmaker. He 139 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: is a second round pick. He had a you know, 140 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: a red shirt year last year effectively didn't play, and 141 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 4: he didn't play as well as we all wanted him to, 142 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: you know, as a as a second round pick. But 143 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 4: now you're in your second year and and today, yeah, 144 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 4: and he's healthy and and this is a game where 145 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: it looks like maybe they're going to eat him. And 146 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 4: so this this is a good opportunity to see where 147 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 4: you see. 148 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 9: Uh. 149 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 4: And I think we'll have a lot to talk about 150 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: on Monday from the standpoint of the tight end position. 151 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: If those two guys don't play, because schoon Maker is 152 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: going to be asked to do more. 153 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: He's gonna be asked through a lot more in this game. 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: And uh, it's it's where the you know, these edges, linebackers, safeties, 155 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: there's some opportunities here with this defense. It's Uh, I 156 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: think that the challenge you faced last week was pretty stiff, 157 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: and this one is it's got its areas where you 158 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: can take advantage of some things, but you just you 159 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: have to take advantage. You can't let these guys get 160 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: off the hook, you know with some of the things 161 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: that they're trying to do. They're they're really trying to 162 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: scheme and play around some of their their lack ofs 163 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: you know, with the way their scheme is. So you know, 164 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: but you need you need to be on the screws 165 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: for this one. 166 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, and this is still a strong pass rush for 167 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 6: the for the Saints unit. I mean, you look at 168 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 6: Cam Jordan, uh, they bring in Chase Young. Granted he's 169 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 6: more of a rotational guy behind Carl Granderson and that 170 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 6: might be a name that a lot of fans don't know, 171 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 6: but eight and a half sacks last year he was 172 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 6: really productive for the Saints. So I think whenever you 173 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 6: factor in potentially giving Tyler Geitton some help around the edge, 174 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 6: you factoring a guy like Luke Schoonmaker who's going to 175 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 6: have to be doing a lot of that chipping, doing 176 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 6: a lot of that pushing around even in the run 177 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 6: game too, helping out on both sides. 178 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: But whether it be a Guiden or Steel. 179 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 6: These are big guys that they have around the edge, 180 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 6: Cam Jordan, Carl Granderson, So there's gonna have to be 181 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 6: some bodies attached to them. 182 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: How much do you do, how much do you lose 183 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: or do you lose anything from the standpoint of blocking 184 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: when you talk about some of like span Ford that 185 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 4: might now have a lot more rest. 186 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think span Ford this could be an opportunity 187 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 6: for him as well, like you said, and I think 188 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 6: whenever we identified him coming out of the University of Minnesota, 189 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 6: he was this blocking specialty type tight end, and I 190 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 6: think that was kind of the thought process and bringing 191 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 6: him in as one of the highest paid undrafted free 192 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 6: agents around the league. They gave him the most guaranteed 193 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 6: money of all on drafteds out of the league. I 194 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 6: think whenever you put him into this offense this week, 195 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 6: without a Jake Ferguson and without a John Stevens junior, 196 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 6: He's gonna be asked to do a whole lot, not 197 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 6: only in the blocking game, but also in the receiving game. 198 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 6: He wasn't really asked to do a lot of that 199 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 6: at the University of Minnesota. Granted we did see him 200 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 6: at the Senior Bowl line up and do a lot 201 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 6: of different red zone things, and he really took advantage. 202 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: Of those big bodies. 203 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: For sure, he is a big body. 204 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 6: I think you could work that in in red zone situations, 205 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 6: but how comfortable is he doing that. I didn't see 206 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 6: a ton of reps during training camp him working in 207 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 6: the red zone. So you know how much application of 208 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 6: knowledge will have to be applied this week specifically for him. 209 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 6: I think that's something to keep an eye on moving forward. 210 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 6: But those are gonna be the two tight ends that 211 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 6: they call upon. You'll probably anticipate a Princeton fan elevation. 212 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 6: You would need to use him in some blocking situations. 213 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 6: And then, like you said, Hunter, look he's also an option. 214 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: You mentioned Marshawn Neelan being out yesterday for practice with 215 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: a calf injury. Talk to me about what the Cowboys 216 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: do if he can't play. When you look at someone 217 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: like Tyrus sweet Chance, Chauncey Golston, do you bring up 218 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: Carl Lawson, Like, where do you think they go there? 219 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 3: I was told that I asked about Neelan's injur I 220 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 3: said concern, and they appeared to say it wasn't bad. 221 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: So hopefully he will be able to go. You know, 222 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: but we've we've had these moments before with the calf. 223 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 3: We're not worried and all of a sudden we get 224 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: to the end of the week and the guy just 225 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: can't go. And so but initially it was, hey, we 226 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: should be okay here, okay, well let's see, you know, 227 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: we're we're gonna have another couple of days, three days 228 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: here to kind of figure all this out. But yeah, 229 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: you know, it could be you know, Carl Lawson could 230 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: be the elevation there. You know, they've got to find Wheat. 231 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 3: He was primarily special teams guy last week. You know, 232 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: you have to get him involved. We talked about yesterday. 233 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: You get a rookie left tackle for the Saints. And 234 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: then with with Penny on the other side, he's a 235 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: guy that kind of can give up some pressure. When 236 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: he watched him play as a left tackle, he wasn't 237 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: very good and right side there were some pressures you 238 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: know that Carolina was able to generate over him on 239 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: that right side. So anything over there that is against 240 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 3: those against that right side, I think is good. If 241 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: it's Wheat and or Lawrence Parsons, anybody that they want 242 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: to take off that right side I think can cause 243 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 3: some problems. 244 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think you could look for a Carl 245 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 6: lost in elevation, like like you mentioned Derek. I think 246 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 6: there's still confidence in Lawson. Just really didn't find a 247 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 6: roster spot that made sense for him going into this season. 248 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 6: But he's still a guy that's here at practice every 249 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 6: day and if there's an injury to that edge unit, 250 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 6: he's gonna be the first one called upon. 251 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about the Saints. They had five 252 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 4: guys that did not practice yesterday. I'm gonna run off 253 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: these names. Let me know which ones you think are 254 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: the most important to keep an eye on from the 255 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: standpoint of how much of an impact it would be 256 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: to the Saints if they didn't have then we had 257 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: cornerback Markshawn Lattimore, a really good player, obviously, safety Tower 258 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: and Matthew, guard Lucas Patrick, defensive tackle Kaylin Saunders, and 259 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: linebacker DeMarco Jackson. 260 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: I think that I would start with Latimore because if 261 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: you go back and you watch the time that Ceedee 262 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: Lamb played against Lattimore at I think there were three targets, 263 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: one catch for three yards, there was an interception, and 264 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: against everybody else. I think that Ceedee Lamb was eight 265 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: for eighty four or eighty five. You know, when it 266 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: came to it was remarkably different. The amount of space 267 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: that Ceedee Lamb was able to generate and the receptions 268 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: that he was able to grab By not playing against Latimore, 269 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: that means that kool Aid mckissory. If you watch the 270 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: draft show, I think a lot of you did out 271 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: there that we talked about. Mckisstory a lot from newestity 272 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: of Alabama. He came in last week and actually did 273 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: a pretty good job. There were three targets I believe 274 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: his direction, there was only one reception. He's a very 275 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: talented player. I was surprised he went in the second round. 276 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: Kind of a bunch of thought he would probably be 277 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: a first round player. Alabama had a couple of cornerbacks 278 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: and he was one of the more talented ones that 279 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: they had. So he stepped in and did a pretty 280 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: nice job. But if you take Lattimore off this defense, 281 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: I think that's pretty significant for them. 282 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll give you a close runner up in the 283 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 6: fact that Lucas Patrick starting left guard. 284 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,479 Speaker 2: That's that's definitely. 285 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 6: A one to keep an eye on as the week 286 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 6: moves forward. They don't have a ton of interior depth. 287 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 6: A lot of teams do not have a lot of 288 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 6: interior depth, so this could be a situation. 289 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, Landing Young was his backup, and there's clearly a 290 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 3: drop off between Patrick and and Young when you watch 291 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: them play. Yeah. 292 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 8: Absolutely, I'm just shaking my head because I'm like, some things, 293 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 8: just don't say it because then that's when things happen. 294 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: That's fortunate things happen. 295 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 8: So man, as soon as you said that, I'm when 296 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 8: you got right. 297 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: Now, that could change quickly. 298 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, when it does come to the Saints practice schedule 299 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 6: this week, I think something just to keep an eye on. 300 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 6: Players were sent home early yesterday in anticipation of hurricane 301 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 6: Hurricane fran Scene making landfall. They were all out of 302 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 6: the facility by about two pm, so they were able 303 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 6: to complete practice, but team meetings and everything got cut 304 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 6: pretty short. And then with heavy flooding in Jefferson Parish 305 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 6: last night, that's where a lot of players do live 306 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 6: down there, and then the causeway is causing some issues 307 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 6: up in Mandeville. I think just kind of keep an 308 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 6: eye on the practice schedule this week for the Saints. 309 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 6: There could be some things that are moved around quite 310 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 6: a bit with them because of that story. 311 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an interesting thing. And Brian, you and I 312 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: were talking yesterday before we went on the air. I'm 313 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: sure you've had some experience with it when you talk 314 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: about teams having to prepare under really difficult circumstances when 315 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: life starts to life, right, and you got these things 316 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: outside of your control that are not about football, that 317 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: are affecting your life and obviously then your ability to 318 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: be able to do your job. How do you prepare 319 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: for that? And what have you seen in your experience, Brian, 320 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 4: particularly like in how teams manage that and how players 321 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: respond to it. 322 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing is an organization, you have to be 323 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,119 Speaker 3: very mindful that your players are human and they have families. 324 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of them had their wives, their kids, 325 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: you know, their girlfriends. You know, maybe maybe mom dad 326 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: are there, you know, living with them now. They're taking 327 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: care and your first thing is okay, you're thinking about 328 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: your job. But as an organization, you have to be 329 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: very mindful of this. And that's the one thing that 330 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: the Saints are very mindful of because they live it 331 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: every year. Hurricane season hits down in Midami, they deal 332 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: with the same thing hurricane season hits, and then you 333 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: have to be you know, you have to. So the 334 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: organization usually has a really good plan for Okay, listen, 335 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: we're gonna get take care of your families. This is 336 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: what we're going. If you guys have to go early, 337 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: if say you have to get on a plane and 338 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: get out of here to go play this game, please 339 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: don't worry about your families. We'll get everybody taken care of. 340 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: We'll get a bust out, we'll get them hoteled up. 341 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: You know, everything will be fine that way, And so 342 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: that takes a lot of pressure off the players to 343 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: have to deal with that. They're like, Okay, I don't 344 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: have to worry about moving my mom, my dad, or 345 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: moving my wife and the kids out of here. We 346 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: can we can take care of that. So it is 347 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: difficult because we all talk about when we get into 348 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: and you brought it up, we came in the routine 349 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: the creatures of habit where every week you get into 350 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: a routine Monday Tuesday, every day there's a you know 351 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: what you have to do, and then you do it 352 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: for like eighteen weeks. And so when you throw somebody 353 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: off that schedule, it could be very, very difficult. The 354 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: league tried to do it the other day with you know, 355 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: with sin in Green Bay and Philadelphia to Brazil on 356 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: a nine hour flight and then turn around and play. 357 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: Green Bay's got to play a day day, a noon 358 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: game this week after playing again, you know, so the league, 359 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: the league will do that. Well the Cowboys, heck, I mean, 360 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: how many times you guys played three games eleven days. Yeah, 361 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: you know, I mean you just get used to the 362 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: part of the don't complain. You just show up, You 363 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: practice for two days or a day, and then you 364 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: go play. And so teams are accustomed. But there's, like 365 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: I say, there's some organizations that are really good at 366 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: helping their their players just have that level of comfort 367 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: that know that their families are taking care of while 368 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: they're practicing. 369 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: All Right, we're gonna take our first break. 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Let's start 439 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: with a big picture question. Yeah, tell me the greatest 440 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 4: strength of this defense, and then tell me the greatest 441 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 4: weakness of this defense. 442 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: You know, I'll tell you it's the very small sample 443 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: size of the Carolina game. And to me, the strength 444 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: of it was their ability. And I haven't seen a 445 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: team do this in a while. But they're not afraid 446 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: to get their secondary involved with blitzing. And Nick and 447 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: I we were all talking about the pass rush with 448 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: Grandison and then you know, you bring in you know, 449 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: you bring in others to you know, Chase Young, guys 450 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: like that and Cam Jordan. I mean, they've got some 451 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 3: guys that you would think are like legitimate pass rushers 452 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: and and and they do those you see those guys 453 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: get involved. But I was, I was shocked of Holmut. 454 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: And I don't know, I don't know this because I 455 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: don't know if it's just that that Dennis Allen decided 456 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 3: that that Bryce Young can't handle pressure from the secondary. 457 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,239 Speaker 3: He can't. He can't read it, he can't see it. 458 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: He's not going to get his guys in the right spot. 459 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: He's not going to move a blocker. Hey, he moves 460 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: a blocker over from the left to the right, and 461 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: they run the blitz from the left and he gets 462 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: sacked from the second and you're like going, wait a minute, 463 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: why did you just move? And what happened is the 464 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: blocker the back on the right side does nothing blocks nobody. 465 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 3: It's kind of like he was, you know, looking and 466 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: the actual blitz came from his left. So I don't 467 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: know if, if, how if Dennis Allen in this game, 468 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: in his strength of slot blitz, safety, blitz, you know, 469 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: combinations of blitzes, I don't know if he's going to 470 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 3: do this to Dak Prescott or even try to do 471 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: this to Dak Prescott because in this game, I mean, 472 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: you look at just this was a metrics thing. And 473 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: the great thing about us and our ability to watch 474 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: tape and they go look at things, and this just 475 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: was jarring to me. And the Saints had five off 476 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 3: ball players generate a pressure versus the Panthers in this game. Overall, 477 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: the Saints sent twelve different players who did not play 478 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: edge or defensive tackle on blitzes eight p's eight pressures 479 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: on fourteen blitzes. Fifty seven percent of the time they 480 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: blitzed on third down. That was their big blitz down 481 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: was third down. That's gotta think about down though, right, 482 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: think about that though? Is this something? Is this a okay? 483 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 3: Is this a first game trend or every week? Are 484 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: we going to really dial things up? And if you're 485 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 3: sending that much secondary pressure, are you worried about your 486 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: pass rush? Because what happened is you go back and 487 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: you watch the guys that were getting the pressure. Though 488 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: Chase Young was the one that had the most pressures 489 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: in the game. Granderson is a good rusher, Jordan's a 490 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: good rush, but they didn't generate the pressure that Chase 491 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 3: Young did as the edge they had it. Their nickel 492 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: had had three sacks in this game. Four rushes, three 493 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: sacks from their nickel. That's a slot player. Yeah, and 494 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 3: so you're going, there's no way in hell they do 495 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: this to Dak Prescott. 496 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: But that's also where I guess what I'm thinking of it. 497 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: My question would be you were asking me. 498 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 3: What the strict and it was, I don't know, because 499 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, damn. If this is something that they're going 500 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: to go in every week feeling like we're not going 501 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: to create enough, you would think that they're that they 502 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: across the across the front, that they could generate pressure 503 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: on this Carolina defensive line. You would think that, yeah, 504 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: but they found something that like, well, this kid can't 505 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: read he can't read Blitzer. 506 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: Right, Which that's my point, like, yeah, Dak Prescott is 507 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: a veteran quarterback. You would think they wouldn't go into 508 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: a game plan like that against a veteran quarterback because 509 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: he will eat you live. If you're sending all those 510 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 4: there's gonna be somebody open and you got a dangerous 511 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 4: guy like CD Lamb on the outside. You got other 512 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: playmakers in this offense. Like, to me, that's just like 513 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: you got a running back that can pick up the 514 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: blitz and then you're exposed. 515 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Right. 516 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 6: I want to offer two points of I think optimism 517 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 6: from that point, Brian, since that Dak Prescott, whenever he 518 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 6: is escaping the pocket and getting out an extending place, 519 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 6: we saw him really succeed doing that last chair. This 520 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy offense. I think it was an emphasis going 521 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 6: into last year. You know, we talked so much about 522 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 6: the footwork at training camp and being able to escape 523 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 6: the pocket. That's a big part of that. Being able 524 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 6: to step up in the pocket, that's a big part 525 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 6: of that. 526 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: I think. 527 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 6: Also the second point is, and Mike McCarthy mentioned this 528 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 6: yesterday in as press conference. He was asked about how 529 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 6: can you evaluate based off one game? And he said, 530 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 6: in the Saints specific case, whenever he's looking at the 531 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 6: Saints defense, the personnel is pretty much the same back 532 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 6: to last season. And I think if you identify, you 533 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 6: know what they did under Dennis Allen last year with 534 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 6: the personnel that they had in place. Only a thirty 535 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 6: six sacs last year, twenty eighth in the NFL. So 536 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 6: I think whenever you look at it from a pressure 537 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 6: standpoint and you take last week in a vacuum and 538 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 6: try to understand it, I think it said more about 539 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 6: Carolina than it did about New Orleans. With that being said, 540 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 6: like I mentioned earlier, there are some big pass rushers 541 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 6: on this defensive line. Yeah, And I think if you're 542 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 6: looking at power guys and you're understanding Tyler Guiden is 543 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 6: in his career, where you understand where Cooper Beebe is 544 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 6: in his career, even Terren Steele in some instances, power 545 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 6: could be an area of concern. But I do feel 546 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 6: comfortable with guys like Exeel Elliott being able to pick 547 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 6: up blitz his Dak's ability to be able to escape 548 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 6: the pocket. I don't think they're gonna have as many 549 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 6: issues as Carolina did last yek. 550 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you would think that maybe that they 551 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: that they they're looking at this like last year we 552 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: generated no sacks, and so I would maybe that that 553 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: they we're not going to get off once again. The 554 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: thing that all of a sudden they. 555 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 16: I remember where they ranked last. 556 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: Year twenty eight. Yeah, yeah, they just sty this. But 557 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 3: in this game, I was sitting there expected I was thinking, like, okay, 558 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: Jordan Young, those get they're just going to overpop Carolinas. 559 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: Just can't block these guys. And for the most part, 560 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: there were, like I say, Young had had a good 561 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: game rush in the passer Chase Young. We remember him 562 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 3: from the Commanders. I mean, he was a highly selected guy. 563 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: Was one or yeah and one or two? Was he? 564 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 3: I thought he was two, but he was up there. Yeah. 565 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 3: I don't think the Commanders had the first overall pick. 566 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: I think he was number two to Okay, okay. 567 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: Good work, good work. 568 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: Guy. I can't remember what I had for breakfast. I mean, 569 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: but do you remember that I remember that one because 570 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 3: that was some quarterbacks in that draft. That was one 571 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: of those that that. Yeah, there was I think there 572 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: was some guys they they passed on. They passed on 573 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: a guy or too there. But anyway, that the the 574 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: thing about it that with with the Saints, I just 575 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: kind of feel like that they're now going to they're 576 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: taking a more aggressive approach when and Nick's right about 577 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: the guys they have the names they have, but this 578 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: this one, this one was one of those kind of 579 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 3: like is this a one time thing or is this 580 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: an all time thing? But but they play a ton 581 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: of man coverage. I mean that that is something that 582 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: they are going to They're going to line up and 583 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: and again they they might not respect, they might not 584 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: respect what Carolina had at receiver, but but their team 585 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 3: that if you look at the numbers, say, okay, was 586 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: this something they've done before the last two years, big 587 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: heavy press man coverage team, so you know this, I 588 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: think the respect was there. But Carolina in pressman coverage 589 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: only had five completions against them in this game when 590 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 3: they played press. So you know you're gonna gamble here 591 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: if you you know, to me, I'm always to give 592 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 3: me the quick death. I don't want slow death. You know, 593 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: if I'm if I'm a defense, just you know, give 594 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 3: me the quick if it's you know, if we we gamble. 595 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: I think this team gambles. I think this is going 596 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: to be their identity. I think they're going to gamble 597 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: on coverage because you'll see them at times. You'll see 598 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: them at times. It's crazy to believe this, But here 599 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 3: they are bringing a blitz and they got a linebacker. 600 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 3: They they've got a receiver in the slot and a 601 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 3: linebacker playing inside, and they're showing linebacker inside like in 602 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: the B gap, and they bring the slot and they 603 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: run the linebacker all the way to the outside to 604 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: try and cover a vertical Uh you know, feeling, Yeah, 605 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 3: THELAN is running a route from the side. He looks 606 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: and like he looks out and there's nobody in front 607 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: of him. There's no it's like they're they're in like 608 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: a little tight little twins look and feeling's like, are 609 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 3: you gonna throw me the ball when I'm running up 610 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: the field here? Because there's nobody in front. They took 611 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: their inside linebacker B gap and ran him all the 612 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 3: way to try and take THELAN on a vertical route. 613 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 4: There's no way they can say that they're sitting You're. 614 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: Sitting there thinking, yeah, I mean, Dak, you try that. 615 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 3: Dak is going to find that book there you go 616 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 3: right there. 617 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 6: I think that's also where you have some hope that 618 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson plays in this game. 619 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was thinking, So anything because these safeties. 620 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: The thing I love Tyron Matthew because he's my LSU 621 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 3: brother and stuff like that. But the thing with Tyron 622 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: Matthew is Tyron Matthews still where Tyron Matthew help will 623 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 3: help the Saints. He creates turnovers. He's a come up 624 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: to you tackle and you're like, book, punch the ball 625 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: out guy, you know, or he's always trying to, and 626 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: he did. He knocked the ball here. You know, they 627 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: get they get a nice little run. What's tying Matthew 628 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 3: come up punch the ball. That's what he's always been. 629 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: That guy's round. 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Yeah, do you think they have? 703 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: I mean the running game of Caroline. We were talking 704 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: about Carolina and the break. They have enough talent for 705 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: Bryce Young, I don't. 706 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 6: I don't think he's a consistent runner, but I think 707 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 6: whenever they do get Brooks back healthy, I don't think 708 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 6: there's an excuse for Bryce Young after that. 709 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I like you, Yeah, I don't. 710 00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: I don't. 711 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: He look, but it was hard to watch. It was 712 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: hard to watch, and and like you said, I've never 713 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: seen him play that poorly. And you know, all the 714 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: way back to high school how he played, and I 715 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 3: never I never believed that he was going to play 716 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: this poorly. 717 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: Me neither. 718 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: I just know how he played against my long Horns 719 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 4: when he was at Obama that game, the Longhorns should 720 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 4: have won, But for Bryce Yell. 721 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: You know what's funny. 722 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 11: He was. 723 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 6: He was talking about the corner blitzer or the nickel blitzer, 724 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 6: and he's like, yeah, I just don't think he has 725 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 6: you know, I don't think he has trouble with that. 726 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, there was the one time. 727 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: Why do you think the Saints did with that? I mean, 728 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: I was just curious, now real quick, I'm sorry, I mean, 729 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: but why do you think the Saints played him. The 730 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: way they did is that they did they don't think. 731 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 6: He can I mentioned this in the break, and this 732 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 6: is the first time in his career he's not had 733 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 6: an offensive line that can protect him, and I don't 734 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 6: think he knows how to play with that. That's that's 735 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 6: a real thing for quarterbacks, and I think it's understated 736 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 6: at times because it's kind of the cliche, Oh, you 737 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 6: don't have protection, so it doesn't work. I really think 738 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 6: that's the problem with Price Young because whenever you're having 739 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 6: to escape the pocket two and a half seconds after 740 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 6: the snap, whether you have protection or not, you're immediately 741 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 6: going to have that anxious feeling, unless it's a snap throw. 742 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 6: You have the anxious feeling whenever you have to dissect 743 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 6: and read. And I think that's the problem because you 744 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 6: see the happy feet in the pocket with him. 745 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: You never saw that at modern day or in Alabama. 746 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 8: So I feel like the more you mess up, the 747 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 8: more he gets into your head. 748 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think they probably wanted to overwhelm him, 749 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 4: like you're coming into a new season, you know, the 750 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: talent that he had coming out of college. You're like, 751 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 4: you don't want him to get comfortable on you, so 752 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: you say, send everything at him. 753 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 3: And by the way, they made car comfortable playing defense. 754 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like that's the point, like you just 755 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 4: send everything at him. And as after what they did 756 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 4: last year or not did what they didn't do when 757 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 4: it came to pass rush last year, it was a 758 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 4: good thing to put on tape. Now teams have to 759 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 4: account for the fact that they may be sending pressure 760 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 4: from a lot of different points. I'm sure there's a 761 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 4: lot of time the Cowboys, and it has been this 762 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 4: week thinking about, Hey, what about the corner, what about 763 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 4: the safe, what about the backer? Like you got to 764 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 4: think about all those things. Now after that game. 765 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: Do you feel like, though the end of this game 766 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 3: that you're gonna you're gonna gamble, like we're talking about 767 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: safety in the excuse linebacker in the A gonna carry 768 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 3: a slot wide receiver. Do you think it's one of 769 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 3: those things you say against Dak you have to do 770 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: it because we're gonna get home before they adjust. I 771 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 3: would I mean, it's the it's the slow death first 772 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: the fast. 773 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 4: I would say, look at look at the pass played, 774 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 4: the touchdown, played it to Cooks. They they got it. 775 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 4: They they got a press inside, they got the pressure 776 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 4: and guess what, Dak, Oh my god, off the back 777 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 4: foot touchdowns like that's got to worry. 778 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 6: About something about that touchdowns A little off topic. I 779 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 6: apologize something about that touchdown that was a product of timing. 780 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 2: That touchdown pass does not happened if CD Lamb was 781 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: running that route. 782 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 6: Whenever you look at the timing and certain things that 783 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 6: they tried with CD and Dak at times in Sunday's 784 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:53,959 Speaker 6: game too. 785 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 4: Are you saying because they haven't had the time over 786 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 4: the work. 787 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 6: Five receptions there was not a lot of complex route 788 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 6: running schemes run by CD Lamb. But you see that 789 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 6: instance with Brandon Cooks. He hadn't even broke when Dak 790 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 6: threw that ball. Yeah, and he knew exactly where Cooks 791 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 6: was going to be. He was wide open and it 792 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 6: worked out for a touchdown. We've seen that route how 793 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 6: many times over the course of the last month and 794 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 6: a half. I think that's just a product of really 795 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 6: good timing in a quarterback receiver connection, right. 796 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: I think Kevin Thornhill out there, I'd thrown that ball 797 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: up too. 798 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 15: Yeah. 799 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 3: That guy look that he was watching a home run. 800 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 3: Aaron Judge slam went over his head and he's just 801 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: kind of sitting there and the OW I feel like, 802 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 3: oh yeah, it's a home run. I'm not moving. 803 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: Speaking of CD, LAMB, how much do you guys expect 804 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 4: that that he'll have a full clip this week and 805 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 4: and that that that that connection would improve this week 806 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 4: over last week. 807 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 6: I think whenever we look up here, you know, before 808 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 6: the Ravens game, I would expect Dak and CD to 809 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 6: be one hundred percent by then. But I think right now, 810 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 6: going into the Saints week, I'm probably anticipating about eighty 811 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 6: eighty five, just because that timing is a real thing. 812 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 6: And yes, Dak Prescott could say, hey, it's only going 813 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 6: to take a couple of practices for us to get 814 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 6: back in the rhythm of things, but those guys probably 815 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 6: worked out all you could count on your two hands, 816 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 6: you know, over the course of the the offseason. Obviously 817 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 6: hasn't had CD implemented in the offense since January. You know, 818 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 6: it's gonna take some time to get back up to speed. Granted, 819 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 6: now we're looking up about three weeks since he signed 820 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 6: that deal, So I think whenever we're looking at going 821 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 6: into the Ravens game, that's when we should start seeing 822 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 6: some of this complex route running schemes come back, and 823 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 6: that's where he's doing the double moves. That's where he's 824 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 6: you know, a DAK is trusting where the ball placement 825 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 6: is going to be because he trust where CD is 826 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 6: going to be. I didn't necessarily see that against the 827 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 6: against the Browns. Oddly enough, the route that worked the 828 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 6: best for CD and DAK last year was just a 829 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 6: pure slant route, and they relied on that in the 830 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 6: Browns game, as they should have. But you can also 831 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 6: see that they're falling on their weapons that they know 832 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 6: will work. But you also have to mix it up 833 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 6: with some things. That's that's with anything. But I think 834 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 6: if they mix it up a little bit more and 835 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 6: they're able to implement some double moves and get CD 836 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 6: open on some slant, then break out to a corner slant, 837 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 6: break out to a post, I think there's gonna be 838 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 6: some opportunities to really open up this offense. 839 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy you want to put him on is 840 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 3: Alante Taylor, the slot. He's the one. The last two 841 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 3: years they've gone after this cat, and Carolina went after 842 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 3: this guy too. He gave him a touchdown, had four receptions. 843 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 3: I think it was seven targets. I was watching him play. 844 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, man, they're kind of picking on this dude, 845 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: and went back and check. They pick on this dude 846 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: a lot. So if your routes are coming out of 847 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 3: the slot, the stuff you talk about, the slant and 848 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 3: the corners and things like that that you want to run, 849 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 3: maybe that Think about the Saints Alante Taylor, he's number one, 850 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 3: he's their nickel player, he's the one with three sacks. 851 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 3: Maybe he's a better edge than he is a cover. 852 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 4: Well, looking at this game, they were pretty dominant over 853 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 4: Carolina both in the pass defense, in their pass defense 854 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 4: and their rush defense, only allowing one hundred and thirty 855 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 4: five yards passing fifty eight yards rushing. Brian from what 856 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 4: you could tell, do you think this is a team 857 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 4: that you would attack if you're the Cowboys, you attacked 858 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 4: them more with the run game or with the pass 859 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 4: game based on where you see deficiencies. 860 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like that you're throwing the ball 861 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 3: against these guys might be okay. And I know that 862 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 3: Nick has his concerns with the pass rush. I guess 863 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: I would have concerns with the too. If I thought 864 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 3: every time I'm going to blitz a secondary guy. He's 865 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 3: going to get home, you know. But I you know, 866 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 3: you find a way that the matchups are going to 867 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 3: be about can these Cowboys tackles hold up in this game? 868 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: Can you know the Browns I said, are the Browns 869 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 3: defense was so much better than this defense. When you 870 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 3: talk about the pressure and you know the players that 871 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 3: you have, there's some sneaky, sneaky good players in this team. 872 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 3: But I don't know, Like I said, you know, I've 873 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 3: seen Chase Young before rush wide, rush wide, rush wide, 874 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 3: rush way and then all of sudden decides to go 875 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 3: inside and like, oh he figured it out. He actually 876 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: got a pressure there, but he you know, he's That's 877 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 3: the thing about it is some of these guys get 878 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: in a little bit of a rhythm rush and then 879 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 3: you can kind of you kind of deal with it. 880 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 3: But if Dallas's tackles hold up well in this game, 881 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 3: I they can throw the ball. 882 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 6: I wouldn't necessarily say I have concerns with the pass rush. 883 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 6: I think it's just more so identified. 884 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: You're not wrong. You're not wrong strength here. 885 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 6: And I think whenever you look at you know, the 886 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 6: rookies up front, they did a really good job against 887 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 6: the Brounce that's a fact. Sure Miles Garrett didn't make 888 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 6: his presence felt on that one play, and by god 889 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 6: he did. 890 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 891 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 6: But I think whenever you look at the picture as 892 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 6: a whole and how Tyler Geydon performed against those edge rushers, 893 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 6: I'm comfortable going into New Orleans understanding that he can 894 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 6: play to that same level. I just think it's a 895 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 6: strength of theirs that definitely should be And I'm with you, Brian, 896 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 6: I'm passing the ball if I want to win in this. 897 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: See the thing about it is with Geyton and hopefully 898 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,479 Speaker 3: the hands and the feet, you know, I mean after 899 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 3: why we talked about it, it was he was in survival 900 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 3: mode and with these guys, I think he can breathe. 901 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: These guys can rush, Don't get me wrong on this. 902 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 3: These guys can rush, but it's not like dealing with 903 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett and even even Smith. You know, those guys 904 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 3: don't give you a breath. And I think with the 905 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 3: Saints they have some guys where technique, you know, just 906 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 3: play your technique, and he got a good shot of 907 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 3: blocking these cats. 908 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 8: I think this is a game where Dak goes into 909 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 8: feeling a lot more comfortable and confident, because even going 910 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 8: back to the game again to Browns, where there was 911 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 8: some pressure coming, Dak would sit still like you didn't 912 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 8: really see him kind of going out of the pocket 913 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 8: and taking off. So I think I think that maybe 914 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 8: this gives him more like Okay, it frees him up 915 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 8: more to be more comfortable to anticipate those pressures and 916 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 8: start using his running game. Because again, he's healthy, he 917 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 8: looks good. We know he can do it. He's done 918 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 8: it before, like you mentioned before, Nick, We've seen him 919 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 8: get out of the pocket, run and throw, and he 920 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 8: has been very successful at connecting those passes with the receivers. 921 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 8: He has very talented receivers. So I think this is 922 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 8: an opportunity to maybe see him just a little bit 923 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 8: more mobile. 924 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, these linebackers, when you talking about Pete Warner and 925 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 3: the Murio Davis here that last week's line back again, 926 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 3: Coral Moore, those these guys are run. These these guys 927 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 3: are a little bit later to the ball. I mean 928 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 3: they could they could be a tick late. There were 929 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 3: a couple of times where Carolina were able to get 930 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 3: the ball inside and then make some you know, a 931 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 3: lot of four or five yard runs, eight yard run. 932 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 3: You know, against this group, the linebackers are not going 933 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 3: to make the number of plays that the Browns linebackers were. 934 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,479 Speaker 3: Those dudes were hum into the ball on the run. 935 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is more of a blue collar group. 936 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 6: They do the dirty work, they get it, they get 937 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 6: in there, they will make their presence felt. But I 938 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 6: think it is a strong second level, but it's not 939 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 6: what we saw from the Browns last week. They do 940 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 6: have some young guys though, that are pretty interesting in 941 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 6: that second level too, that we might see rotate. In 942 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 6: Anthony Orgie, he's a rock Wall product, Jalen Ford, he 943 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 6: went to Friscal Lone Star. There was a couple of guys, 944 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 6: and then DeMarco Jackson while he was on the injury report. 945 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 6: That certainly got to keep an eye on too. 946 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, this week, based on what we've heard Brian you 947 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 4: talk about with him using so many guys from the 948 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 4: secondary on blitz's, do you expect this is a game 949 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 4: we'll see a lot more of Zeke Elliott in the 950 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 4: backfield than that rotation. Knowing that he is I think 951 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 4: their best, their best blitz pick up guy from among 952 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 4: the running backs that are on the roster. 953 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you would expect. 954 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 6: If we're looking from a carry's perspective, I think we're 955 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 6: going to see a similar distribution. But as far as 956 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 6: passing downs, I think we you can anticipate Zeke Elliott 957 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,439 Speaker 6: being on the field a lot on third down. 958 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 3: Did you ask that question of press conference something like that, Yeah, 959 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 3: I thought so about that you be comfortable with the balance. 960 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 4: And he was with that Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, It's 961 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 4: obviously it's gonna be Ah, they're gonna need that. If 962 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 4: if this is the way the Saints are going to 963 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 4: be playing this year, you're gonna need that, which means 964 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 4: is the number of snaps. The number of snaps certainly 965 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 4: gonna fix a lot more. Yeah. You know, actually for 966 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 4: those out there, for those out there that don't know, 967 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 4: and as a nod to the game against the Saints 968 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 4: this week, today in the training table, we are having gumbo. 969 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 4: So uh, if you know anything about me, you know 970 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 4: I'm very excited about that. 971 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 2: Two days. 972 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 3: Year. Man, So we get on doing it. 973 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 4: Exactly so we can get over here and get some 974 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 4: of this gumbo. All right, I appreciate you guys to 975 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 4: join us back tomorrow. We're gonna wrap this thing up, 976 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 4: get you guys ready for Cowboys versus Saints. Till then 977 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 4: for Nick Harris. Brian brought us an ambergar Ci. I'm 978 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 4: Derek Elt and this has been the Break live on 979 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 980 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: This is in a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 981 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.