Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you? Why and look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yeah? Goodness, ding dong calling? What's
Speaker 1: the temperature? Well, the temperature is in celsius over here
Speaker 1: in the UK, and so I haven't figured out the conversion.
Speaker 1: I'm a terrible kind of student, chic, very chic. Someone
Speaker 1: goes it's it feels like five, and I'm like, yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: it's so. I was just gonna say it feels like
Speaker 1: twenty five out here now. The weather thing, that's one thing.
Speaker 1: The sort of pounds to dollars? Where are we at?
Speaker 1: I can figure out pounds to dollars. Well, this is
Speaker 1: the thing about the UK is the UK is like
Speaker 1: totally bill less. It's all electronic. Oh, people don't really
Speaker 1: throw cash around anymore, which is good and bad. I think, well,
Speaker 1: let me just slutt in one thing. Did you figure
Speaker 1: out your meatpie situation over there? I've gotten so many
Speaker 1: request gusts and I will be trying all of them.
Speaker 1: I will be trying all five hundred. So Bowen's big
Speaker 1: thing was being in the UK. He can't find his
Speaker 1: meat pies. And what I'm hearing is that the readers
Speaker 1: have sort of come to your aid sort of when
Speaker 1: they sent me all those recommendations from what I was
Speaker 1: looking for pumpkin beers in l A. Well, they didn't
Speaker 1: send you recommendations. They literally sent you pumpkin beers. No
Speaker 1: one sending me meat pies in the mail, which I
Speaker 1: am kind of disappointed in. Well, they wouldn't travel. Well,
Speaker 1: bo I don't think it's neither here nor there. Think
Speaker 1: a meat in a carb is a standard thing in
Speaker 1: every cuisine. If they can make it work for tacos,
Speaker 1: they can make it work for meat pies. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: speaking of twenty five, seguing into Adele, who was nominated
Speaker 1: for her album thirty so interesting that it feels like
Speaker 1: a loss for our Queen Beyonce, even though she did
Speaker 1: break a record. It's so strange. It's like she's the
Speaker 1: most winning artist in Grammy history, but they will never
Speaker 1: give her the big cake. But they funk up the
Speaker 1: cake all list every year. And that's the asterisk. They
Speaker 1: funk up the cake every single year. And this is
Speaker 1: my thing with the Grammys, just like when are we
Speaker 1: beginning pretending this is good cake? Like when are we
Speaker 1: just going to go to another cake sto another bakery
Speaker 1: which is another word for cake store, and that's actually
Speaker 1: real culture number thirty nine. Bakery is another word for
Speaker 1: cake store, just like I like to call a pizzeria
Speaker 1: a pizzas store. And you're always sort of correcting me
Speaker 1: on that three are dynamic, you know, like it's our
Speaker 1: Nickels and may routine, it's our Nichols in may routine.
Speaker 1: Can I just be very transparent with the readers, just
Speaker 1: just kind of killing me? Yes, okay, yes, yes, And
Speaker 1: this is important and I think it's really good that
Speaker 1: our guest is here this week because I think she
Speaker 1: can really mother for this talk us through this. But yes, Matt,
Speaker 1: go ahead. I have been on this podcast discussing this
Speaker 1: is hard. This is I have been sort of talking
Speaker 1: about this new man in my life, my new boyfriend, Lenny,
Speaker 1: and so I feel like I wouldn't have come onto
Speaker 1: this podcast and talked about a person in my life
Speaker 1: so much if it wasn't a real thing, and I
Speaker 1: didn't feel really confident, and that has made it very
Speaker 1: difficult because, like, within the span of a week since
Speaker 1: I last recorded on this podcast, that's no longer a thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of going through it, and I know
Speaker 1: he has friends that listen to this podcast. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to afford some privacy and everything, but just suffice
Speaker 1: to say it has not been a good week and
Speaker 1: the cycle of grief that is going on. I think
Speaker 1: today I'm an angry soon yeah, um, but it's been
Speaker 1: a lot and Bones of course been a good friend,
Speaker 1: and everyone's been a good friend. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just felt like the readers some transparency about that
Speaker 1: it's not been good. I'm so happy you're sharing this.
Speaker 1: I respect and admire the fact that you're sharing this
Speaker 1: because on the surface it might seem somewhat embarrassing, and
Speaker 1: it really isn't because you have people go through it.
Speaker 1: You really did nothing wrong in the course of the
Speaker 1: relations and ship, and we will spare this person any
Speaker 1: deep discussion and dissection. But it was it was a
Speaker 1: full love bomb and well and it's pretty shitty behavior.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the thing about relationships. Right when my end,
Speaker 1: it's like you want the closure and you want to
Speaker 1: like understand why and you want to really absolve yourself
Speaker 1: or like, if you did do something wrong, understand it.
Speaker 1: With this, I have so many questions, and I guess
Speaker 1: that's what's difficult. But you had a better week, I'd say,
Speaker 1: because you sort of got to like hug Pedro Pascal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't have to talk about it. You fell in love, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean there's no pathway for me, but um, you
Speaker 1: don't know. Suffice it to say. I was deeply, deeply charmed,
Speaker 1: as was everyone. And that's the thing these sometimes these
Speaker 1: hosts come through and everyone is like, I think he
Speaker 1: wants to fun. I think Peter's into me. This is
Speaker 1: what happened when a Harry styles game like this happens
Speaker 1: like every time there's like a heart throb for Harry.
Speaker 1: Was like, no, he's not putting the moves on me.
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced, Like I recognize what he's doing, and
Speaker 1: I'm putting shields up, you know, because people like him.
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen to people like him. Jak Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: just quoting his Grammy. See. For him to say that
Speaker 1: him winning a Grammy things like this don't happen to
Speaker 1: people like me was just it was so a lot
Speaker 1: had to laugh. You had to laugh anyway. But with
Speaker 1: Pedro was just like, oh damn, damn, he's a man
Speaker 1: and a half. What did you say? He looks like
Speaker 1: Clark Gable. He's Burt Reynolds, Clark Gable, carry Grant all
Speaker 1: in one, and you are powerless against it. You are just,
Speaker 1: I mean powerless against it. And he's so sweet and
Speaker 1: his laugh, I mean, if you watched Lisa from Temecula,
Speaker 1: where Ago would him legendarily to stake He laughs and
Speaker 1: he breaks, and there's a moment where he laughs in
Speaker 1: this like biblical register. He's laughing like God laughs at
Speaker 1: his own creation. You really are wrapped up. I'm writing
Speaker 1: poetry about this man in my head. It's crazy. So
Speaker 1: you're in a place of your writing like happy poetry
Speaker 1: about your being in newly in love with Pedro Pascal,
Speaker 1: and I'm sort of writing like angry Atlantis Morrissette adjacent,
Speaker 1: like how fucking dare you? Why? Why did this happen
Speaker 1: to me? Like I'll get you one day, Missives. It's
Speaker 1: like on the back of checks, I'll write something really
Speaker 1: piste off. Is that true? I can just put it there.
Speaker 1: And then I had a friend over yesterday and they
Speaker 1: sat next to the thing and I saw there was
Speaker 1: like a check, the back of a check, and I
Speaker 1: had written something really dark on it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, if they turned their head a little
Speaker 1: bit to the left, they're just gonna see sprawled out
Speaker 1: on the back of a check like this. Angry thought, like,
Speaker 1: I have to clean up. Oh my god, Matt, no,
Speaker 1: this is you know what you This will be easily
Speaker 1: romanticized in like a month. Oh no, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna become something right now, it's just only pain. But
Speaker 1: but the fact, here's the here's the fact of the matter,
Speaker 1: my sweetheart. The fact of the matter is the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is this. There's great medicine in the
Speaker 1: Zoom treat right now. Because first of all, let's just
Speaker 1: travel back in times when our guest was on the
Speaker 1: first episode of Last Culture since they did, when we
Speaker 1: traveled up to Nayack, New York, and we were freaking
Speaker 1: out because we had never got a guest like this
Speaker 1: on the show, let alone someone that was like such
Speaker 1: a formative part of both of our lives. And then
Speaker 1: we recorded the episode. I think we were both blacked
Speaker 1: out because we were so like nervous, and you were
Speaker 1: pacing in the hotel lobby like I've never seen you.
Speaker 1: The guess knows how much she means to me and
Speaker 1: so like I was pacing in the lobby rearranging the
Speaker 1: furniture because I was so amped. Then we recorded the
Speaker 1: episode a lovely time. Then comes the opportunity for us
Speaker 1: all to work together on Fire Island. What a time highlight.
Speaker 1: Beyond the fact that we were working on this project,
Speaker 1: that we were lucky enough to be making a movie,
Speaker 1: the fact that she was sort of nurturing all of
Speaker 1: us in her way was really special. Will always cherish it, always, always, always,
Speaker 1: and I know Lucia is not far away. Oh my God,
Speaker 1: with no further ado, I mean, one of the greatest
Speaker 1: of all time. Just our friend. Everyone, please welcome to
Speaker 1: your ears. Mar Oh. I love you, I love you,
Speaker 1: I miss you, and I love you and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: But the thing is is that with breakups, it's really hard.
Speaker 1: Because I wanted to always wonder, like, am I mourning
Speaker 1: the relationship or what I thought the relationship was. It's
Speaker 1: the latter for me for sure, because it happened so
Speaker 1: fast and it was so intense, and I've never experienced
Speaker 1: anything like this, and I was fearful the whole time
Speaker 1: that it would go as quickly as it came, Like
Speaker 1: it was something that I was like, it was in
Speaker 1: the back of my mind because that's logical, but I
Speaker 1: was reassured that wouldn't be the case, and then now
Speaker 1: it is. So it's just like that thing of oh,
Speaker 1: I just kind of got in a way by myself,
Speaker 1: but not even not even because this person, Margaret was
Speaker 1: without revealing too much, was sort of assuring safety and
Speaker 1: protection and like security, and that's what's the painful thing.
Speaker 1: That's the worst. I think. Also, if you're an entertainer,
Speaker 1: so much of ourselves is kind of spent in our work,
Speaker 1: and then the romantic life kind of stuffers only because
Speaker 1: we're traveling all the time, we're working all the time
Speaker 1: at night in particular, um, so we have less time
Speaker 1: to kind of commit to relationships in general. So when
Speaker 1: you find something that you believe is ideal, it's hard
Speaker 1: not to fall into the pattern mentally of thinking this
Speaker 1: is going to be great, and then I project so
Speaker 1: much onto people of what I think I want, and
Speaker 1: then when it's over, it's like, did I really was
Speaker 1: it the relationship or is it my projection of the
Speaker 1: relationship that I'm warning. Yeah, That's what's really difficult is
Speaker 1: just remembering yourself even a short time ago with a
Speaker 1: completely different reality than than you have now. And now
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm sort of working through is it's like,
Speaker 1: what were the signs, if there were any? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's just it and it's odd because
Speaker 1: I met this person in November and now it's February,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it was like this big seismic
Speaker 1: thing that just came in. It's like when someone comes
Speaker 1: into your life, becomes your favorite thing about life and
Speaker 1: just bails, and so then you're like, okay, wait, let
Speaker 1: me actually do the process of like grieving it, but
Speaker 1: also now the process of examining it, and especially as
Speaker 1: someone who creates and like is someone that works things
Speaker 1: out through common recognized pattern. Yeah, and it's just like
Speaker 1: you want to make sense of it immediately, but it
Speaker 1: is a process. And that's also frustrating because I want
Speaker 1: to react to it, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: wanted to make sense, but so little of it makes
Speaker 1: sense because of exactly what you said. It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what was real at this point, right. It's
Speaker 1: so hard, and it's so hard when it's like your
Speaker 1: life is so interrupted by something so huge and then
Speaker 1: suddenly gone you know, like I still have pickles from November,
Speaker 1: so I mean it's still I don't and they're still fermenting.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's like you know, those things, like
Speaker 1: it's it's a very it's short time to feel so
Speaker 1: many big things. And then I always looked too, when
Speaker 1: it's that big, it must be I mean I did
Speaker 1: that I created because it can't other people can't possibly
Speaker 1: affect me that much in my experience. That's what I realized, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't actually have been moved by another person. It's
Speaker 1: mostly my own projections ramming into somebody else's instigation. So
Speaker 1: for me, it's always like I think I kind have
Speaker 1: created them in my mind more than it was actually.
Speaker 1: But it's so hard. Dick is very Yeah, Dick is
Speaker 1: hard to get over. Sometimes we get we just love
Speaker 1: that Dick, and it's just really hard to um kind
Speaker 1: of separate our physical sensations around that with what's real.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it is Dick, isn't it. Well, it's
Speaker 1: Dick is like kind of a metaphor for just the
Speaker 1: idea of romance and wholeness. Yeah, my goodness, that really
Speaker 1: rings true because I think one thing that I really
Speaker 1: realized about myself throughout this whole process. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Now is that I really do want that in my life?
Speaker 1: And I think I had gone for such a long time,
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know how you feel about this,
Speaker 1: but like I was that kind of person that was like,
Speaker 1: I don't need that. That doesn't complete me. I'm not
Speaker 1: looking for that. I want to be able to have fun.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to experience time with my friends,
Speaker 1: like experience whatever is going on in my career. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, this thing happens where you're like, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: like this actually is a part of my life that
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind I was looking to
Speaker 1: fill that role and then someone comes in and fills
Speaker 1: that and it leaves, and I think, kind of what
Speaker 1: I'm grieving right now is that role being filled, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, the future planning I was doing
Speaker 1: because I was made to feel safe to do that.
Speaker 1: Now that it's gone, I think one lesson I'll take
Speaker 1: from it is, at least now you know that is
Speaker 1: something that you want, because you can protect yourself better
Speaker 1: next time, and also you can make space for that
Speaker 1: next time. Of course, it's gonna be hard to just
Speaker 1: open myself up again. I don't think I want to
Speaker 1: look at another gay man for a very long time
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I mean? My sister and
Speaker 1: a half I have to look at him at least
Speaker 1: once a week on soon. But but like I really
Speaker 1: have been very afraid, I don't want to socialize with
Speaker 1: any gays, Like I don't want any part of it.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not that kind of person that can get
Speaker 1: back up and like start fucking do you guys like that?
Speaker 1: I can be just because I think, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: the idea of getting over someone is getting under somebody else.
Speaker 1: But that's also not necessarily productive either. Um, that just
Speaker 1: lends itself to genital warts. But that's okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: which doesn't matter that that's never more there, that's fine, table.
Speaker 1: I think general wards are the thing that is lended personally.
Speaker 1: You don't lend yourself to it. It lends itself to you.
Speaker 1: It lends like it's a giver. She's a giver, she gives,
Speaker 1: she shares. But I think, yeah, like sex doesn't really
Speaker 1: do Like I kept thinking sex is going to help
Speaker 1: me get over heartbreak, but it actually just sort of doesn't.
Speaker 1: It just kind of makes it more complicated. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: also overrated. You know. Something my friend said to me
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's not as easy to go out
Speaker 1: there and just like get laid. Like more goes on
Speaker 1: in my head. Like my friend was like sort of
Speaker 1: telling me, like you can go out there and just
Speaker 1: like get laid and like that's the way you get
Speaker 1: over things. I'm like, it really hasn't worked thill, because
Speaker 1: when you have a large amount of sexual experiences like
Speaker 1: that means you're also having a larger amount of like
Speaker 1: weirder sexual experiences or like sexual experiences that get you
Speaker 1: self conscious because like you know, sex is weird or
Speaker 1: just aren't fulfilling period or it's just not fulfilling. So
Speaker 1: having it does not mean you're winning, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Or doesn't mean you're advancing. It just means like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're putting yourself out there and letting people have your
Speaker 1: time and energy in this way, and sometimes it pays off,
Speaker 1: but other times it's kind of just like either boring
Speaker 1: or weird or wards boring weird awards. But with with this,
Speaker 1: what I'm angry about now is that you say you
Speaker 1: didn't think you needed this, You weren't looking for this
Speaker 1: and then now that it's taken away from you, it's
Speaker 1: so damaging and devastating. But it's like this person like
Speaker 1: created that necessity for you. It's this manufactured thing that
Speaker 1: he's also taken away. It's like you not knowing that,
Speaker 1: like fucking I'm gonna like, I'm gonna just quickly. It's
Speaker 1: so innocent. I promise I'm gonna quickly just because this
Speaker 1: is what's so many of mine. I'm quickly quoting a
Speaker 1: Lucy K joke. I'm so sorry. But it's that thing
Speaker 1: where it's that thing where like this guy like complains about,
Speaker 1: you know, in flight WiFi being unavailable, and this guy
Speaker 1: being like, oh god damn it. It's like this thing
Speaker 1: you didn't have existed ten minutes ago. You're you're sad
Speaker 1: and angry about not being available. It's not that, it's
Speaker 1: obviously not that, but it is that thing where it's
Speaker 1: like this person made you think that you needed it
Speaker 1: when you didn't, and now you feel like you're going
Speaker 1: to think that you do need it. And I hope,
Speaker 1: I know it was perfectly fine. I mean, was living
Speaker 1: my life, was happy, and then now it's just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that was nice. But now the funk. What Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's why I need a Lucia. You need a
Speaker 1: little a little baby. She's sleepy. She heard her name,
Speaker 1: She's like, Oh my god. Do you think she mis
Speaker 1: Star Island? Yes, she does. She was such a star
Speaker 1: on that on that whole Remember as Adam, she fell
Speaker 1: in love with Adam. Yes, Adam was a wonderful p a.
Speaker 1: She was so in love with him and she just
Speaker 1: really enjoyed her time with him. Oh my gosh, Lucia,
Speaker 1: it's so good to see you again. Readers, like you
Speaker 1: can't see. She is absolutely filling the frame. She really
Speaker 1: holds the Frame's a gorgeous She's a star. She's a
Speaker 1: gorgeous Chihuahua. She was the mascot of the movie. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, we all were so happy. She misses you. Guys.
Speaker 1: Did you watch The White Lotus season two where there
Speaker 1: was a character of Lucia who was very sexually powerful.
Speaker 1: So I wish she could get a Skims deal too.
Speaker 1: She should, She didn't really get a Skims deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll call I'll call him. She was on the board
Speaker 1: for a second. It would be everyone's dream come true
Speaker 1: if that happened. Her is I want to start doing
Speaker 1: a series of hag exploitation movies with her and like, um,
Speaker 1: you know Baby Jane style like exploitation. Like, um, I
Speaker 1: think exploitation is going to make a comeback. I want
Speaker 1: to do about like kind of etiquette calumnists from competing
Speaker 1: newspapers battling it out and one murders the other. It's
Speaker 1: called bad manners. That's powerful. It's it's let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. It's getting bought in. Let's pitch it, make
Speaker 1: to make decisions. We're buying on pets. Yes, that is
Speaker 1: genuinely I mean you already know this. I don't mean
Speaker 1: just not patronizing. That is a brilliant idea. I think
Speaker 1: it's really good. I love exploitation from the seven sixties
Speaker 1: and seventies, and I feel like it needs to make
Speaker 1: a strong comeback, especially like with the success of all
Speaker 1: of her stuff, and then also these older women kind
Speaker 1: of getting these accolades, like Michelle O, this is like
Speaker 1: a time for us. Everything ever where has haxploitation. Anything
Speaker 1: everywhere is t exploitation. Hags are here, as are here
Speaker 1: to stay. So like, what is like the ultimate exploitation movie?
Speaker 1: Is it like Mommy Dear. Yeah, for sure. I think
Speaker 1: the ultimate is whatever Happened to Baby Jane. But there's
Speaker 1: also you know, it's like straight Jacket. I think even
Speaker 1: Johnny Guitar would any of like the latter Joan Crawford
Speaker 1: movies All About Eve is probably Yeah, that's probably exploitation,
Speaker 1: really okay, So it can be prestige. It can be
Speaker 1: like literally like one of the best films ever made. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or like Carsonic and Old Lace or Carrie Grants the
Speaker 1: fag in that hot. I mean, it's a rich, very
Speaker 1: diverse cinematic landscape that we but we haven't had the
Speaker 1: exploitation for quite a long time, so we need to
Speaker 1: start it up again. Yeah. The closest we get now
Speaker 1: is like eight for Brady, which is great too. No,
Speaker 1: but I think it's like the that's a movie that
Speaker 1: I would go see. I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: see it in the theater. I haven't made up my mind.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't see Megan in the theater. Last You'll have
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. You gotta go see that in
Speaker 1: the dinner. I'm thinking of going to see A Dye
Speaker 1: for Brady in theaters, Like I think that looks Sudi
Speaker 1: saw it the other day and said it was fun. Matt,
Speaker 1: did you and I go see a book Club together? No,
Speaker 1: we didn't go see book Club together, but it's getting
Speaker 1: a sequel and we can definitely know, I think, and
Speaker 1: we loved it. Yeah, book Club is I mean like
Speaker 1: when I saw the trailer for a d for Brady,
Speaker 1: I was with my parents because I think we were
Speaker 1: going to see the Glass Onion, and every all four
Speaker 1: of us is my parents, me and my aunt all
Speaker 1: turns to each other and we're just like said different
Speaker 1: variations of the word delightful. We're like, come on, like,
Speaker 1: who doesn't want to see those four absolutely going for it?
Speaker 1: You know what else I wanted to talk about. They
Speaker 1: look like they're having fun on doing press, Like Rita
Speaker 1: Mirando is definitely like the Ham. She's definitely the one
Speaker 1: that gets up and runs the show. And Sally Fields
Speaker 1: kind of like oh yeah, yeah this like but you
Speaker 1: get a sense the vibes are generally good. Have you
Speaker 1: guys seen any clips from the press tour with Reese
Speaker 1: Witherspoon and Ashton Kuitcher Right now, they're in this movie
Speaker 1: called You're Placed or Mind, which is like I guess
Speaker 1: they played people that fucked years ago and they stayed friends,
Speaker 1: and so they decided, like to switch apartments. One goes
Speaker 1: to l A and one goes to New York and
Speaker 1: they have these experiences and during it realized they still
Speaker 1: love each other. The press tour, it is I've never
Speaker 1: seen two people fake it less. They really look it up.
Speaker 1: It is wild, like it's just can we get a
Speaker 1: body language expert on this? Reese for this one standing
Speaker 1: in front, arms folded like this shoulders up while while
Speaker 1: Ashton is like on the side, like there's clear there's
Speaker 1: like a fucking arms length between them. I watched one
Speaker 1: because I was fascinated, so I continued to watch interviews
Speaker 1: and it was I think it was an interview with
Speaker 1: like Rachel Lindsay for Extra and she was like, now,
Speaker 1: did y'all know each other before this? Had y'all worked
Speaker 1: together before? And Reese was like, uh no, well, well
Speaker 1: I'm looking let me look this up. Reese must have
Speaker 1: produced it. Yeah, I mean, don't just look at a
Speaker 1: picture of them standing each other. It is so clear.
Speaker 1: It's it's like trending on Twitter because it's so obvious,
Speaker 1: just so funny how much she'd like either doesn't respect
Speaker 1: him or doesn't want to be there, or it hates
Speaker 1: the movie or something. Okay, so hello Sunshine, her production
Speaker 1: company produced. You would think she'd have some approval over
Speaker 1: her love interest, her Crowstar. I mean that's well, something
Speaker 1: must have happened during production. Then it's such an anachronism
Speaker 1: that movie, Like it looks like it came out in
Speaker 1: like ten, Like it's a very weird like Matthew McConaughey
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson's style, like romantic comedy from their early two thousand's.
Speaker 1: It's a weird throwback that. Yeah, it's very curious and
Speaker 1: it feels also like Dragon Drop Stars to Let's take
Speaker 1: it to Paradise, right, It's like, of course, like we
Speaker 1: we hit the ultimate jackpot and it's like George Clooney
Speaker 1: and Julia Roberts yea like and now we have this script.
Speaker 1: Reese is going to produce it. Who do we get
Speaker 1: that's like famous enough that this is gonna make sense.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Let's make it work for two three
Speaker 1: And they pick Ashton Kutcher and then they put them
Speaker 1: out there together and it's like, oh, they hate each other.
Speaker 1: Like that's like I'm not watching this. That's too bad
Speaker 1: because Elean Brush Mchanic wrote and directed, and we love
Speaker 1: her for crazy ex girlfriend and Devils Product of course,
Speaker 1: but this is God. I can't it over the race
Speaker 1: nation and sort of dynamic of it all. Then if
Speaker 1: that's I'm not talking about the movie at all. We
Speaker 1: haven't seen the movie. It might be great just them
Speaker 1: doing the press tour. It is very evident interesting, wow,
Speaker 1: But how much do you fake it? Anyway? Like at
Speaker 1: a certain point and you just get tired of feaking it.
Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking, like, we didn't see you Margaret a
Speaker 1: lot for the press store of Fire Island because we
Speaker 1: did it kind of separately. But like that was like
Speaker 1: a genuine joy the whole time. But like what if
Speaker 1: there was one person that was just like, oh, I know,
Speaker 1: I mean, we had so much fun making the movie
Speaker 1: and I just wanted everybody to see it. So you
Speaker 1: want everybody to say, like, feel the feeling of joy
Speaker 1: that we had making it and also getting back together
Speaker 1: to do the press junkets. So it seems weird. Maybe
Speaker 1: you can be such a big star that all that
Speaker 1: stuff you're mad that you have to do it. You
Speaker 1: know that you're mad that you sec already made the
Speaker 1: movie and now you have to go on and do
Speaker 1: the extra work of the publicizing it. But who knows, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it is a lot of work, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: and maybe they just hate each other. I want to
Speaker 1: meet Pedro Pascal too. You guys would get along great.
Speaker 1: You know. Um Jonathan Vanese he used to be my hairdresser,
Speaker 1: but now he's too famous. But he Yeah, for years,
Speaker 1: I love him. And then so we were excited when
Speaker 1: Pedro Pascal first came on to UM Game of Thrones
Speaker 1: and our nickname for him was by Pride because he
Speaker 1: was really proud to be by show his character and
Speaker 1: so by Bride. And then um Jonathan was doing the
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones hair during Comic Con and he called me, going, okay,
Speaker 1: because I'm doing I'm doing Bipride hair, and almost like
Speaker 1: was so funny because it was like, now by Pride
Speaker 1: was his name. So every time I see him, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's by Pride, and I really want to call it
Speaker 1: when I when I see him, I want to call
Speaker 1: him by Pride and tell him why he's by Pride,
Speaker 1: because he's by Pride, honestly, for by pride to be
Speaker 1: the biggest star in Hollywood right now. I think it's
Speaker 1: so gorgeous. And you know, people like that, there's very
Speaker 1: rare where you feel like they are making love to
Speaker 1: everybody they meet. I'm describing, yes, Sorr, I keep going.
Speaker 1: I mean I've never met him, but the only other
Speaker 1: people that I have met that have that is David
Speaker 1: Bowie and chat Oh my god, A course of course,
Speaker 1: Fat Wait went like in person. Yeah, we had lunch
Speaker 1: at the Pan Pacific Hotel in the very top um
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, in and um, John, we wanted to
Speaker 1: introduce us. We had this thing and then John laughed
Speaker 1: and then it was me and Chow Yun Fat and
Speaker 1: I was talking about all of his movies that I
Speaker 1: had seen so many of them. You know, he was
Speaker 1: really impressed of my knowledge of even his romantic comedies
Speaker 1: and things that nobody had seen. Is like melodramas, Hong
Speaker 1: Kong melodramas, and he was it was big in his presence,
Speaker 1: was just like he was like making love to everybody
Speaker 1: in the room, but not in a sexual way and
Speaker 1: pure cinematic romance way like a Carry Grant or Clark Gable.
Speaker 1: That feeling but Raynold's that feeling. Um, it's definitely that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And David Bowie, Oh my god, that's a great little
Speaker 1: trio right there, and like a Talian fat and a
Speaker 1: Better Tomorrow, so good, so so beautiful, and and Crouching
Speaker 1: Tiger crouching just like the center of it, Like the
Speaker 1: stuff with him and Michelle at the end is just
Speaker 1: so heart wrenching. But like another movie I used to
Speaker 1: watch all the time, which probably isn't good but was
Speaker 1: on all the time. I haven't thought about it in years,
Speaker 1: is his Anna and the King with Jodie Foster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was like a really shocking scene where like Biling
Speaker 1: gets killed spoiler alert for Anna and the King years ago,
Speaker 1: But that was like a very upsetting film that was
Speaker 1: I guess like another era of Jody too, because you
Speaker 1: don't picture her in that Movie's like a romantic, like
Speaker 1: very feminine lead. Jodie Foster. We have to ask Margaret
Speaker 1: the question, because here's the thing. When we did our
Speaker 1: first episode with you, I think we were so excited
Speaker 1: that we literally did not ask you the thesis question
Speaker 1: the center of our show, which is Margaret Show, What
Speaker 1: was the culture that made you say? Culture? Is for me.
Speaker 1: I think it was in the movie Greece where Olivia
Speaker 1: Newton John turns into black late TEXI leather sandy and
Speaker 1: she throws down distigarettes. Tell me about it instead, Um,
Speaker 1: John Travolta, and then they go in the big weird
Speaker 1: like fun house thing, um, and you're the one that
Speaker 1: I want. And it's like such a It was then
Speaker 1: and I was with my cousins in l A. And
Speaker 1: I spent the summers with them as a kid, and
Speaker 1: we watched it, and we had the videotape of Greece.
Speaker 1: We watched it every single day, and then at night
Speaker 1: we would go out and drive around l A. And
Speaker 1: they were a little bit older meat, so they had
Speaker 1: a car and we would listen to Um Donna Summers
Speaker 1: Bad Girls. So it was like I wanted to be
Speaker 1: bad and I wanted to smoke cigarettes, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to like have like that perm and um yeah, like
Speaker 1: a bad Hole, which like Bad Girls is such a
Speaker 1: great record and such a it's such a the celebration
Speaker 1: of the sex worker, which is really cool. I I
Speaker 1: really I love that record. I love disco, and I
Speaker 1: love the disco kind of grease fifties and seventies collide um.
Speaker 1: So that to me, I think it was like the
Speaker 1: cultures was for me at that time. That was when
Speaker 1: it popped off. Do you remember around what age you
Speaker 1: were when when hit. I was probably about ten or twelve,
Speaker 1: already wanted to smoke cigarettes. Yeah, definitely definitely stent that growth.
Speaker 1: Girl just stent it. I wanted to smoke cigarettes. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ride around in cars. I wanted to listen
Speaker 1: to disco and watch Grease. Yeah, to me, it was
Speaker 1: a really formative time. And I got to work with
Speaker 1: Olivia Newton John later and she and I became friends.
Speaker 1: And she would come to see my comedy shows and
Speaker 1: like the improv in l A. And she would run
Speaker 1: up and she was just for fun, just for fun.
Speaker 1: You know, saw that you're here just for fun, just
Speaker 1: for fun, and run off. And she she told me
Speaker 1: to quit smoking. It's just just just do today. And
Speaker 1: then I I so I quit smoking, and she, you know,
Speaker 1: she just really had a choke hold on all my
Speaker 1: everything I did. I really loved her. I can't believe
Speaker 1: she's dead, but you know, it's so shy, it's so shitty,
Speaker 1: but she was really iconic and I really loved her
Speaker 1: short hair. I loved her music album for like the
Speaker 1: video album for Physical, which was like the Physical video
Speaker 1: which had a lot of gay subtext. All of her
Speaker 1: videos had a lot of gay subtext, but that that
Speaker 1: was a really great video album. And she was just
Speaker 1: she was awesome. The person who made you want to
Speaker 1: start smoking through a screen also inspired you to stop
Speaker 1: smoking in person. That's right, And that's the duality that
Speaker 1: is the Sandy bad right. Absolutely, I came full circle.
Speaker 1: So incredible. She's amazing. Wow, also like a real smoke show,
Speaker 1: like just like really stunning. Like I think, like a
Speaker 1: lot gets lost because you're like, oh, it's just Sandy,
Speaker 1: It's just like a thing that's a particulture and assume.
Speaker 1: But like wow, did she like have it on screen?
Speaker 1: And her voice it was amazing, like hopelessly devoted. That's
Speaker 1: a really hard song. And just like the way that
Speaker 1: her belt just like it just sours through it. It's
Speaker 1: like she has that rasp, that like emotional rasp in
Speaker 1: her belt that I think it was just really really
Speaker 1: special And you can tell how hard that song is
Speaker 1: when people just think they're going to be able to
Speaker 1: do it at karaoke, you know, they whip out of karaoke,
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, this one, and then like it's a
Speaker 1: real death spiral to the end of the song. It's
Speaker 1: so hard. It's so hard. Yeah, she's truly like a
Speaker 1: multifaceted entertainer with the dancing and also singing and acting
Speaker 1: and just the looks, the looks that she served for
Speaker 1: her life. She's just incredible. So everything she's phenomenal and
Speaker 1: her in travel. So I guess we're like an it couple.
Speaker 1: Well she said, um, yeah, you know, wait it hang out.
Speaker 1: But after after Kelly, it just got weird. You know,
Speaker 1: I couldn't really, it just got weird, It got wead,
Speaker 1: it got weird. After got weird, I guess. So it
Speaker 1: got weird for Kelly period. She just didn't feel comfortable
Speaker 1: reaching out. But I love that their collaboration. I love
Speaker 1: a twist of Fate the movie and song. Um that's
Speaker 1: a really lost movie, which I think is really good. Wait,
Speaker 1: are you guys horny for Travolta when he was younger?
Speaker 1: Totally yeah, right, he's beautiful. I think That's another thing
Speaker 1: is because and the reason I say that about Olivia,
Speaker 1: like you don't realize how stunning she was is maybe
Speaker 1: because I started watching Greece when I was truly a
Speaker 1: little little child and like just thought of them as
Speaker 1: like the prom king and queen up there on the screen,
Speaker 1: and my sexual like conception of them sexually didn't kick
Speaker 1: in yet. Like the other day, I saw a picture
Speaker 1: of John Travolta back in the day and I was like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 1: he's gorgeous. Welcome back Carter. Gorgeous. Yeah, welcome back Carter.
Speaker 1: He's gorgeous. He's really hot and carry really um, you
Speaker 1: can smell that semen off of the screen, like I
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's that like really like
Speaker 1: pungent semen. But you know what I mean, it's that
Speaker 1: really pungent semen. Yeah, you know what he's giving, Like
Speaker 1: he's actually giving and this is kind of crazy, but
Speaker 1: what he's giving in this movie, now that I've Google
Speaker 1: image it is I eat pussy face. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: a dirty coming from the back of the balls. Like
Speaker 1: it's like a prostate mode, which I'm sure familiar with,
Speaker 1: but I'm literally I just zoomed in on one picture
Speaker 1: and I imagine, like his eyes are so beautiful. This
Speaker 1: is like the eyes of a man that you're having
Speaker 1: sex with someone and their eyes are so beautiful and
Speaker 1: it almost takes you out, Like I can talk this
Speaker 1: person with these eyes. What for me, it's the lips.
Speaker 1: It's always been about the lips fortravlt you know. It's
Speaker 1: like that, it's that perfect little shape. It was a
Speaker 1: pre filler. No filler has been around for a while.
Speaker 1: It just and they just look perfectly plumbed. And like,
Speaker 1: how that's what Carrie is giving me? There was I
Speaker 1: there's a sexual imprinting moment for me, which is a
Speaker 1: little bad. We'll do it. This was like Oprah circa
Speaker 1: two thousand four, but he was on Oprah and he
Speaker 1: must have been in his like what late forties, early
Speaker 1: fifties at this point, but like was working out like
Speaker 1: crazy and he just like at one point, like Oprah
Speaker 1: like asks him to lift his shirt up and he
Speaker 1: like shows everybody his abs. This is like in a
Speaker 1: pre tape segment, like not in front of the audience,
Speaker 1: but like, oh my god, I literally have the thing
Speaker 1: right now. Wow. Yeah, he's given like daddy like not perfects,
Speaker 1: but like a man's body, a man's body, and which
Speaker 1: is more and more of my thing every day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so here you google image. I found it here.
Speaker 1: I'm actually here. Why don't I yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, I found it too. I found it too.
Speaker 1: It was that That was the moment for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I would suck John travel To still. Maybe that
Speaker 1: would save him if you sucked him, because that's what
Speaker 1: I'm signing up to do now. One breaks later. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to save through your sexual power. But do you
Speaker 1: guys remember when he did that. There was like a
Speaker 1: movie he did with Jamie Lee Curtis where there's like
Speaker 1: an aerobics perfect Yeah. Yeah, it's called perfect Yeah. And
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like when he's thrusting the
Speaker 1: air when sweating, it's so great. I love all the
Speaker 1: looks in that movie. I think it's such a great
Speaker 1: movie and it's such a perfect time catsle of like
Speaker 1: aerobics core, you know that kind of look and feeling
Speaker 1: so perfect. It's googling the words John Travelta Perfect like
Speaker 1: a third girl. This does confirm for me, at least personally,
Speaker 1: how religion kills any attraction, any zell at the person,
Speaker 1: whether it's trim like Tom Cruise, like even fucking like
Speaker 1: let's just say like Chris Pratt, like it just kills
Speaker 1: it for me. I'm like, I cannot get hard for
Speaker 1: you if you like love your church this much. It's weird.
Speaker 1: It's super weird. This is not like, oh, like religion
Speaker 1: is bad, but it's just like there is an element,
Speaker 1: there's a degree and magnitude to it that like really
Speaker 1: rubs me the wrong way sexual totally. I have such
Speaker 1: a disgust for like the Hillsong bro. You know, like
Speaker 1: anybody who's like has a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: bracelets and beads and like a beanie and like a
Speaker 1: lovy shirt. Still it makes me so you know, like
Speaker 1: how that look is so awful, so weird and it's
Speaker 1: so meticulously put together too that it's like so much
Speaker 1: bad taste colliding. It's like remember like the hills years ago,
Speaker 1: justin Bobby, It's like that like old reality star. It's
Speaker 1: like it was like tacky then, and yet it's still
Speaker 1: the thing that people are like not only into but
Speaker 1: gathering to be around. But I think that Hillsong guys
Speaker 1: like done right or is that more of an aesthetic?
Speaker 1: It's just the aesthetic, but that guy's done. It's the
Speaker 1: aesthetic of like a mega mega church aesthetic. It makes
Speaker 1: me so disgusted, you know, like a mega church where
Speaker 1: there's a Starbucks in the church, so disgusting. Like anything
Speaker 1: like that is so horrible. I mean, it's not about
Speaker 1: the belief to me, it's about the aesthetic. It's awful, totally, totally.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a Starbucks. That's a culture. There's a
Speaker 1: Starbucks in the church. It's it's awful, you know, it's
Speaker 1: all that's real culture in number seventy eight. If there's
Speaker 1: a Starbucks in disgusting. Okay, this is gonna sound broad. Margaret,
Speaker 1: you are my favorite person to say words. It's just
Speaker 1: the way that you his words as weapons. To quote
Speaker 1: Ava Max. That's I think what I loved so much
Speaker 1: about your stand up albums when I first found you,
Speaker 1: When I was like, I don't know, I've told you
Speaker 1: this in like little gay ways, but like I was
Speaker 1: like thirteen in my room and like I would listen
Speaker 1: to your stand up albums on Rhapsody, and like I
Speaker 1: would put my headphones in and like I felt like
Speaker 1: you were telling me what my sense of humor was
Speaker 1: from like even though I didn't know, but the way
Speaker 1: with words that you have like the way that you
Speaker 1: can throw a word out there and it hits in
Speaker 1: the gut just never forget, like of course indelibly and
Speaker 1: all of your stand up. But we were we were
Speaker 1: shooting Fire Island and when we've started this on the pod,
Speaker 1: but what I had just done that line about like
Speaker 1: does anyone want to trade a Crest white strip for
Speaker 1: a prep pill? And it started a conversation about prep
Speaker 1: and I had mentioned like at one point like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes I skipped a day, and Bone was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you can skip days, like if we were talking about it,
Speaker 1: and then Margaret just goes, I don't really don't, it's
Speaker 1: not worth it. You're right, you're right, Margaret, We're sorry.
Speaker 1: Don't play Russian Roulette with that. No, no, it is
Speaker 1: all about Margaret with you. And I'm sure other people
Speaker 1: have pointed this out. Is like timing obviously, but spacing,
Speaker 1: like the particularly the spacing of the words, it is
Speaker 1: like fuck me in the ass, bar and grill like
Speaker 1: it's it's like the pause. And then the way even
Speaker 1: bar and grill is like kind of hits the ear.
Speaker 1: It really is just like a big part of your art.
Speaker 1: And then Matt and at one point when we were
Speaker 1: first becoming friends, we were watching some Gray's Anatomy scene
Speaker 1: and like quoting it back and just like having like
Speaker 1: a ball, just like saying the words at the exact
Speaker 1: right times and sinking with it. And then Matt turns
Speaker 1: to me and goes, this is why you and I
Speaker 1: are friends. It's because we like appreciate the hate it
Speaker 1: and like the register and like all of that stuff
Speaker 1: where you know, I'm getting a little annoying here, but
Speaker 1: like that is the thing that people can like build
Speaker 1: a sensibility around. Well, I actually pitched a show with
Speaker 1: you guys because I was doing this thing called this
Speaker 1: History of the Game Show, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: you need to actually talk to Bowen and Matt and
Speaker 1: do let's do history of VH one reality shows that
Speaker 1: became game shows, like I Love New York and everything
Speaker 1: after that, like Charm School, Rock of Love, like everything
Speaker 1: after like yeah, I Love Money, um, the Flavor of
Speaker 1: Love mostly uh and mostly focusing on Tiffany Pollard and
Speaker 1: have them just do full on recreation and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, they know all of the monologues of Tiffany
Speaker 1: Pollard from like two thou and eight and twelve, so
Speaker 1: you really need to just do like a recreate Asian
Speaker 1: show or like have them just talk, because we it
Speaker 1: was a history of game shows from like the fifties,
Speaker 1: but I was trying to steer them specifically from just
Speaker 1: this period and only yes, yes, and it would be
Speaker 1: all of them. I remember what it was. It was
Speaker 1: like I think we were really obsessed, particularly obsessed at
Speaker 1: that time with Monique saying from trying to school like see,
Speaker 1: when you do clownery, the clown comes back to bite. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and that's my production company's name is Clownery. We you know,
Speaker 1: we bonded on that. But then it was like breaking
Speaker 1: down that statement, like that's not that's not an old
Speaker 1: English adage, Like that's not from like the Farmer's Almanic.
Speaker 1: The way that she says it, it's like something like
Speaker 1: this is a lesson that's been handed down when when
Speaker 1: you do clownery. But she has such avity when she speaks,
Speaker 1: yeah the delivery and there oscar winner for somebody of
Speaker 1: her caliber to do a show like Charm School, which
Speaker 1: also is incredible. I'm not trying to minimize Charm School.
Speaker 1: And how many things we the prequels to charms how
Speaker 1: how how far we had to go to get to
Speaker 1: charm School and all those contests. It was so hard
Speaker 1: to get there through all the other shows. But really
Speaker 1: like the gravity that money brings to and this, she says,
Speaker 1: when you do clownary, it sounds it sounds biblical for me.
Speaker 1: The image of a clown returning teeth first teeth forward
Speaker 1: to by you is the thing that kills me. Maybe anywise,
Speaker 1: that's something to start with at the outset. So we're
Speaker 1: dealing with the fact that you see when you do clownery,
Speaker 1: which could mean anything, the clown comes back to bite,
Speaker 1: which is like when so so basically what we're saying
Speaker 1: is when you engage in a suspicious activity or a
Speaker 1: shady activity, said she said, other participants in shady activity
Speaker 1: will come back to attack you. It's it's an insane
Speaker 1: way to say. Karma is a bit, but so many
Speaker 1: other nouns are thrown into the sentence. It's like locational
Speaker 1: it is it is really a rot. But the cloud
Speaker 1: never beat the first when it returned to bite, and
Speaker 1: they don't bit. She's specifically like kind of referencing, I
Speaker 1: guess pennywise, she's implying that when you do clown y,
Speaker 1: you like release a clown. See, when you do clownery,
Speaker 1: the clown gets out, and you better believe the clown
Speaker 1: will return when you least expect it to bite you
Speaker 1: with its teeth. Yes, when you guys know, we've talked
Speaker 1: about this before. The reason those shows ended on VH
Speaker 1: one like there was truly this like beautiful era. The
Speaker 1: reason the show ended, Matt, do you know, do you remember? Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe it's different, but isolated. I think that someone took
Speaker 1: their own life right afterwards. It was that someone a
Speaker 1: finalist on Megan Wants a Millionaire. Megan was sort of
Speaker 1: like the spinoff Bachelorrette from Rock of Love. She was
Speaker 1: sort of like the star from Rock of Love. She
Speaker 1: um she had her own show. And then on Megan
Speaker 1: Wants a Millionaire, one of the final suitors was charged
Speaker 1: for murder. Charged for murder, Yes, so he murdered someone
Speaker 1: and so then, like they had, immediately canceled the show.
Speaker 1: No more shows from those producers ever again on v
Speaker 1: H one, Well, they clearly didn't vet the contestants. No,
Speaker 1: totally totally, Why would they? Why would they? Exactly? That
Speaker 1: was part of what made it so great totally. I
Speaker 1: mean that was part of the charm. I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: people weren't thinking about the mental wellness of anybody. It
Speaker 1: was just kind of this thing. But also we had
Speaker 1: less of bullying culture of social media than we do now,
Speaker 1: so it made it some somewhat a little bit more
Speaker 1: possible to do stuff like that. I think. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but I do miss that air of television, yeah, where
Speaker 1: it felt like if they were getting picked on, it
Speaker 1: probably was happening on a few message boards or maybe
Speaker 1: like in their own lives, like by people in there,
Speaker 1: but who also watched the show. Now, it's like in
Speaker 1: a culture of social media that I would imagine that
Speaker 1: those people would go even more nuts. Because even even
Speaker 1: on like the really like quote unquote regulated reality shows
Speaker 1: of now, you know, like on even on like Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of Beverly Hills, you still have like Lisa Arena
Speaker 1: taking to Instagram and acting so crazy, and you can
Speaker 1: tell it's just because the social media aspect is there
Speaker 1: as another arena to act crazy in, and it's hurting
Speaker 1: reality shows, I think because so much of the stuff
Speaker 1: that ends up happening between these people on reality shows
Speaker 1: is happening online. So that the Flickton drama is not
Speaker 1: happening on the shows, which I think has made all
Speaker 1: of it worse. Yeah, it's it's like a social media
Speaker 1: becomes another character that's playing sort of a silent partner
Speaker 1: of all of it, but that's very vocal as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I just remember my way into this
Speaker 1: whole universe was going to so. I mean, I did
Speaker 1: not grow up with cable, so go it was me
Speaker 1: going into school. There was just a day when everyone
Speaker 1: decided to tell me who New York was, where everyone
Speaker 1: was like, you need to watch this show Flavor Love.
Speaker 1: This girl from season one came back at season two.
Speaker 1: Now this girl from season one came back and she
Speaker 1: is terrorizing these poor girls. I was like, her name
Speaker 1: is New York. What is wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, Flavor, Flavor gives these girls nicknames. Hers
Speaker 1: is New York, and she, you know, tries to beat
Speaker 1: up this girl who spits in her face. Like all
Speaker 1: of this. I'm like, oh my god, and I was hooked.
Speaker 1: I went on business trips to Gillette, Wyoming with my
Speaker 1: dad's just so I could stay in the hotel while
Speaker 1: he was at work, so that I could watch marathons
Speaker 1: on VH one and I didn't have because because people
Speaker 1: at home. I fell hard for this. It's amazing. I
Speaker 1: mean I think that I had similar experiences with like
Speaker 1: early Jersey Shore, like when they took Angelina's sanitary napkin
Speaker 1: that was used and put it in the corner. Do
Speaker 1: you remember that? Like it was just like weird stuff.
Speaker 1: But all those people just like nailing you every day.
Speaker 1: And then I think she's still on the show, like
Speaker 1: whatever iteration Jersey Shore is in now, like I think
Speaker 1: she's still on it. It's so funny. I don't know
Speaker 1: those ones that the in particular with Tiffany Pollard really
Speaker 1: stand out to me is something like we've seen so
Speaker 1: much from her. I love it. Would we agree that
Speaker 1: probably the biggest reality stars of that time, I guess
Speaker 1: like from that sect was like Tiffany Pollard and then
Speaker 1: from the mainstream sect was Amorosa. Yeah. Probably. I like Tunisia,
Speaker 1: Tanisha Tunisia from Bad Girls Club. She does a meme
Speaker 1: whether she's got the pots and pants and like banging them.
Speaker 1: Tenisha is pretty good. You know who was crazy on
Speaker 1: her show and no one really talks about it, but
Speaker 1: was fully a chaos monster on Love and Hip Hop
Speaker 1: was Cardi B. Cardi B was tossing hands, like charging people,
Speaker 1: really getting into it on Love and Hip Hop. And
Speaker 1: then now she's like, you know, obviously one of the
Speaker 1: world's biggest stars. She's coming out and like muglaire left
Speaker 1: and right. But this is someone who was throwing her
Speaker 1: body with no concern for the safety of herself or
Speaker 1: others around a sound stage to get her point across
Speaker 1: that like she was to be reckoned with. And it
Speaker 1: was like really crazy. I don't know if either of
Speaker 1: you have like ever like watched the utube compilation of
Speaker 1: like Cardi brasiest moments. It's really not how you know
Speaker 1: how I spent my time her at the reunions and
Speaker 1: like what was the reason like that, what was that?
Speaker 1: It's so great? I like Mariah Lynn hip hop that
Speaker 1: show create stars. That's for sure. Yeah, definitely you need
Speaker 1: to go on the second season of Traders. What you
Speaker 1: need to do that, Margret, You need to watch Traders
Speaker 1: on Peacock as soon as you can. You'll love it.
Speaker 1: You'll love it. It's basically like you know, Mafia meets
Speaker 1: the mall Um but it's all there's this like Scottish
Speaker 1: castle aesthetic to it. Alan is the host. He's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's it's excellent. It's truly excellent. The way they did
Speaker 1: the first season was there was like ten like people
Speaker 1: that we knew in the culture, like Ryan Locktey was there,
Speaker 1: like Brandy Glanvill, like who Surrey Fields from Survivor, And
Speaker 1: then there was ten like regular people and they all
Speaker 1: like sitting on a large table and Alam coming taps
Speaker 1: three of them on the show older and they are
Speaker 1: the Traders And basically the whole thing is like the
Speaker 1: whole everyone in the house has to figure out who
Speaker 1: the Traders are. And every night the traders decided to
Speaker 1: kill someone off, so like like until it whittles down
Speaker 1: to like, however many people are there, and either the
Speaker 1: traders win or the real people win. It's it's literally mafia,
Speaker 1: but it's like a literalized, like physicalized version of it.
Speaker 1: On Peacar it was really good. Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 1: Are you going on tour the summer or before? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on tour. I'm starting actually in two weeks in
Speaker 1: Vancouver and then I'm just gonna go everywhere somewhere around
Speaker 1: perfect all over the place. How long is your tour
Speaker 1: this time. I think it'll go probably until at least
Speaker 1: November or something like that out there. Yeah, so but
Speaker 1: back and forth. I'm coming back and forth. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled, Like, you know, it's like finally able to
Speaker 1: really do bigger shows. And you know, since the pandemic,
Speaker 1: it's a weird with comedy, but now it feels like
Speaker 1: we can to like go to shows and do shows.
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be good. Yeah. I was just
Speaker 1: out there all December and it was it felt normal again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was December two, so like by the end
Speaker 1: of the month, like when I think a little bit
Speaker 1: more people were being a little bit more conservative about
Speaker 1: going out, Like as January approached, it was feeling like
Speaker 1: it did. Yeah, it's good for the first time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The fact that it took this long because for you,
Speaker 1: you were shooting the movie with us, like that first
Speaker 1: summer where things were slowly starting to open up again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you were working on the movie the whole time,
Speaker 1: and then I imagine you were like probably working on
Speaker 1: material for the show itself. Yeah, and then also just
Speaker 1: like doing other things like in between. But I definitely
Speaker 1: had been touring a lot less over the certain because
Speaker 1: I didn't want book shows and have them canceled, kind
Speaker 1: of like with the with Overcron Remember we were like,
Speaker 1: I'm canceling again. So it's been hard, but now it
Speaker 1: seems like, Okay, it's great to finally be able to
Speaker 1: embrace it fully and go out there. Well, you'll see
Speaker 1: us there for sure. Yes, that you've got to come.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Yeah. I love saying your billboard
Speaker 1: it was right across from Kylie Jenner's billboard on Santa
Speaker 1: Monica made it. It was so exciting, it was. It
Speaker 1: was exciting, it was, it was. It was great to
Speaker 1: have the show out and then to be able to
Speaker 1: tour it like in real time. And one of my
Speaker 1: favorite moments was I think I was in Portland and
Speaker 1: they had my poster up next to your poster were
Speaker 1: up there it said Margaret Show, Matt Rodgers, and I
Speaker 1: was like, man like not to be like a put
Speaker 1: on a fat But if I could go back to
Speaker 1: myself at thirteen and be like that that was going
Speaker 1: to happen, I just would have I would have absolutely died.
Speaker 1: So that was so beautiful. Thank you, so cool. Well um, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's fussing, so it might be time for baby's baby.
Speaker 1: She's been really good. She's been really good. She got
Speaker 1: a new bag, so she's been like fierce in her
Speaker 1: new bag, which is a little bit bigger and has
Speaker 1: rooms room like, rooms roomy, and first for her to
Speaker 1: put her leash inside and everything and say, she's really happy,
Speaker 1: and yeah, we're probably gonna go a walk later. How
Speaker 1: long We do two walks a day, probably about forty
Speaker 1: five minutes or to an hour each. It's also my workout.
Speaker 1: It's my workout too, so we wouldn't walk fast. I
Speaker 1: let her lead because I do dog lead walks because
Speaker 1: it's not my walk, it's her walk. So I let
Speaker 1: her sniff around and so it can get slow. But
Speaker 1: she's a very good companion and do do that with
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's the best. She really was like
Speaker 1: an energy boost. Remember when we were Remember we were
Speaker 1: in that hotel for the last two weeks and just
Speaker 1: sort of on the house. Yeah, the base camp you
Speaker 1: know at the trailer is just anyway, we all love her.
Speaker 1: It's so cute. And then you guys were doing so
Speaker 1: many really good Nikki Minage recreations you know what I
Speaker 1: wanted to tell you when you went on Kelly Clarkson,
Speaker 1: and yes, that was a person named Matt Rodgers that
Speaker 1: existed that I did the movie with, and he's obsessed
Speaker 1: with you. I ended up going on her show on
Speaker 1: the show, so I did get to meet her. But
Speaker 1: I remember watching that. I didn't know that you had
Speaker 1: said that, so I was watching it. I think on
Speaker 1: Instagram you literally just popped up and it was you
Speaker 1: saying it, and I literally was like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: this is happening. I'm so like, thank you for even
Speaker 1: saying because I was like, oh my god, it's one
Speaker 1: of Matt's heroes telling another one of Matt's heroes. I'm
Speaker 1: so glad, and it was such She's so nice. She
Speaker 1: really is, like I mean, we I think we've all
Speaker 1: met her at this point, Like she really is like
Speaker 1: exactly as advertised, but curses like a fucking sailor behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. Did she did she give you a vinyl?
Speaker 1: Did she give you a record? Yes? Yes, and lots
Speaker 1: of potato chips? Do you remember what she gave you?
Speaker 1: She gave me um Whitney Houston. Oh that's good bodyguard. No,
Speaker 1: I think it was probably greatest Hits. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good choice. I got Joline Dolly Parton. Oh that's great.
Speaker 1: I got Bruce Springsteen Greatest Hits, which I don't think
Speaker 1: she like tailored to me necessarily. I love Bruce Springstein.
Speaker 1: No disrespect to the boss exactly. Okay, So we are
Speaker 1: at that point in the episode where it is I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey time, but I forgot what is
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey? I don't think so honey?
Speaker 1: Is a one minute segment in which we rail against
Speaker 1: something in the culture using the words I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. Does that drug your memory? Yeah? I know,
Speaker 1: I remember, and I actually remember that I have something
Speaker 1: for it. Okay, great, this is Matt Rodgers is I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey? And as time starts now, I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, say it with me. Robin Dixon, Yes,
Speaker 1: you have flopped yet again on the show The Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of Potomac by withholding the fact that you your
Speaker 1: marriage to Wan Dixon, which congrats to you, you finally
Speaker 1: got the ring on it, but you have kept from
Speaker 1: everyone watching the show that wand was in the d
Speaker 1: m s with some girl and then he got her
Speaker 1: hotel room when she came to Baltimore. Now, you can
Speaker 1: lie in your own face, but don't lie to our face.
Speaker 1: This is insane. And the fact that you'd be on
Speaker 1: Wendy about her marriage, like participating in any way about
Speaker 1: Karen's marriage, and you're gonna withhold crucial information about your
Speaker 1: own marriage and then reveal it behind a paywall. Mama,
Speaker 1: Bravo pays your checks. If you're going to sign up
Speaker 1: there and be one of the real housees up the time,
Speaker 1: say your real life, and then you're demanding and getting
Speaker 1: on the rest of these women. What about you, Robin Dixon?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Could you believe? I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1: Margaret this is one of the real houses of Potomac.
Speaker 1: She is we We have disliked her for a long time,
Speaker 1: and this is sort of karmically. The clown came back
Speaker 1: to bite. Let's just the clown came back to bite
Speaker 1: because she was doing clown rate. She was bringing rumors
Speaker 1: from off the show about other people's husbands, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of conspiring with another one, always sort of getting
Speaker 1: into it. Because a thing on this particular reality show
Speaker 1: is they always attack each other's husbands and relationships. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what that is, but that's their kind of
Speaker 1: method of madness. And then it comes out that her husband,
Speaker 1: who's cheated on her in the past, is now sort
Speaker 1: of in the d MS with someone else, and she
Speaker 1: wasn't honest about it, and bravo. She was on Andy
Speaker 1: Cohen watched It Happens Live the other night and Andy
Speaker 1: Cohen was like, so, you're on a reality show about
Speaker 1: your life, and then behind a paywall on your podcast
Speaker 1: you reveal this part of it while also getting up
Speaker 1: and everyone else's business. Do you think there's a double standard?
Speaker 1: And they finally held their feet to the fire and
Speaker 1: it felt good to watch. So Margaret Matt has this
Speaker 1: great schema around the house is where every city, every
Speaker 1: franchise is about a specific theme. So for New York
Speaker 1: it's alcoholism. For Beverly Hills, that's the cracks in the China,
Speaker 1: For Salta City, it's religion. And I think for Potomac
Speaker 1: it's husbands. It's like infidelity maybe, and for Miami it's
Speaker 1: are you ready for this? Mat? Divorce? It's about how
Speaker 1: all these women deal with divorce. Because this whole lease
Speaker 1: of thing is like really crystallizing all the things about
Speaker 1: Alexei at like all these women have experience with divorce
Speaker 1: and they're coming into support her because they're like, we've
Speaker 1: been through this, which I think is what which is
Speaker 1: like heartwarming and touching, But I think ultimately the show
Speaker 1: is about divorce as a process as opposed to Potomac,
Speaker 1: which is about infidelity or about husbands. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's just a very I guess, insecure group.
Speaker 1: There's it's like this cast of women, half of them
Speaker 1: are very insecure about their romantic lives and the fact
Speaker 1: that like they can't seem to keep their ship together.
Speaker 1: But the focus is always on the other happily groups
Speaker 1: husbands because you you kind of get the sense that
Speaker 1: it's just like it's this area of their life that
Speaker 1: they can't sit with, so they're constantly picking and spreading
Speaker 1: these like really like ridiculous, like baseless rumors about the
Speaker 1: happily married people. Meanwhile, it just comes out more and
Speaker 1: more like how conspiratorial and how how like, you know,
Speaker 1: duplicit this they are, and like what's going on in
Speaker 1: their own lives is like not as happy as what
Speaker 1: what's going on on the other side. And I never
Speaker 1: thought i'd say this, but if Robin does get fired,
Speaker 1: I do want zeal to stick around for one more season,
Speaker 1: just so I can watch her squirm and be like
Speaker 1: without one huge I mean, I I don't think that
Speaker 1: Robin survives proof that she was not showing her life
Speaker 1: on the show, Like I just don't think, like that's
Speaker 1: what you signed up for, you know what I'm saying. Anyways,
Speaker 1: ripping stuff. I'm surprised you don't get into Housewives, Margaret.
Speaker 1: I know it's one of those things where it's just
Speaker 1: somehow it's it just didn't open up to me, like
Speaker 1: for for whatever reason. And now I feel like it's
Speaker 1: so far gone that I can't catch up because there's
Speaker 1: so many different kind of universes of it. But I
Speaker 1: have to do the Brittany Frankel podcast and I have
Speaker 1: to go over an episode with her, so maybe that'll
Speaker 1: help me get more. Call Britney Frankly to her face,
Speaker 1: you should call Bethany Frankel, Brittany frank No, it's actually
Speaker 1: very humblings. She Margaret, we're not even kidding. Only you're
Speaker 1: comfortable with that truly disarmed her by calling her Brittany
Speaker 1: Frankle Brittany, Brittany Brittney. She would erupt. I love, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Robin Dixon continues to, uh do clownery and the clowns
Speaker 1: come back to bite. So do you haven't. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, I do. It's pretty specific. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: and we that specificity. Okay, and this is don't think,
Speaker 1: sonny as time starts now, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Misusing Geneva conventions like throwing it into conversation like, oh,
Speaker 1: what that person did violated the Geneva Conventions because they
Speaker 1: didn't like tip their waiter or something. No, you don't.
Speaker 1: People misuse Geneva conventions either as like the thing that's
Speaker 1: being talked about, or they think, oh, the Geneva Convention,
Speaker 1: which isn't really a thing. It's usually in reference to
Speaker 1: the agreement meeting after World War Two, but people misused
Speaker 1: Geneva conventions all the time in like casual, gossipy, bitchy ways.
Speaker 1: It's about war prisoners, it's about civilian rights during times
Speaker 1: of war. It is not about you, you know, being
Speaker 1: cut in line. It is not about like your friends
Speaker 1: being forty five minutes late to a thing. It is,
Speaker 1: Please stop misusing the Geneva conventions and casually using it
Speaker 1: in conversations. And you have no clearly have no idea
Speaker 1: what it is and what it implies. Google's freight look
Speaker 1: it up. I don't know what it is. I just
Speaker 1: told you what it is. You did, but I know
Speaker 1: there's more to know, and so I know that. I'm
Speaker 1: not yet saying you don't need to know everything. You
Speaker 1: just need to know the basics, and you will not
Speaker 1: make this mistake that I see people making all the time,
Speaker 1: like in like comedy and like it's like a reference
Speaker 1: that like gets the laugh, I guess, but I'm always like,
Speaker 1: but no, like these people are laughing not knowing what
Speaker 1: the Geneva conventions are. I think it's the word geneva.
Speaker 1: Can it be literally anything else? Can it be like
Speaker 1: it'd be like that violated by Miranda rights. No, it
Speaker 1: did it. That violated New York magazine rules. That's good.
Speaker 1: That's something. It's closer to the idea that's being expressed anyway,
Speaker 1: by the way that rules of etiquette was wild. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've jumped in there, but I have
Speaker 1: that the you like them, I like most of them
Speaker 1: there there are somewhere. I'm like, I don't know about that,
Speaker 1: but always wink, always win. That was just its cheeky
Speaker 1: thing to put it there, but I think it is.
Speaker 1: It is viable, Like you don't you can ghost after
Speaker 1: first date. Trust me, I am all about a ghost
Speaker 1: after the first date, after a second date. I do
Speaker 1: think it's weird, Like we could literally go through them.
Speaker 1: But there were some of them that were like, if
Speaker 1: you are at dinner with a famous person, don't sit
Speaker 1: them on the end. I know who's writing this? Who
Speaker 1: who's writing this? Who do you think is reading this?
Speaker 1: And also like Amy Saidarris had a great block, but
Speaker 1: then there's some other person. I don't know who the
Speaker 1: funk this person was. Hers were like I don't have
Speaker 1: your assistance send your birthday invites. I'm like, who are
Speaker 1: you taught talking to? Also the one that was like
Speaker 1: never asked about work home? Is it weird to be like, so,
Speaker 1: how's work? Is that weird? Like one of the things
Speaker 1: you talk about? But I think it's okay to ask
Speaker 1: about rent. I like that because I want to ask
Speaker 1: people about money all the time. Yeah, that's one thing
Speaker 1: I'm into burning down all right, this is Margaret shows.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Margaret, Yeah, and her time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Stop commenting on
Speaker 1: Madonna's appearance. You know she looks great, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what surgery she decided to get or not get.
Speaker 1: It is none of our business. You know, women are
Speaker 1: able to age in any way they want to. She
Speaker 1: has done so much for the planet and especially for
Speaker 1: the gay community. We would not have gay rights as
Speaker 1: we do without Madonna. Madonna has reared us, raised us
Speaker 1: as a community. She has formed her art, music, fashion, everything.
Speaker 1: She has formed so much of our world, and we
Speaker 1: have to have respect for her as part of her art.
Speaker 1: Now is changing her appearance to please herself, that's her business.
Speaker 1: I think she looks great. I think she's always looked great,
Speaker 1: and I want and you don't don't talk about that
Speaker 1: it looks bad. I I love Madonna and I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Yeah, that's one minute, agreed. I agree.
Speaker 1: Comments on her appearance are I get people's comments on
Speaker 1: her behavior because sometimes it is odd. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and she literally she also like she's always wanted you
Speaker 1: to comment on her behavior. She she is provocative. That's
Speaker 1: part of her thing. It has crossed over now and
Speaker 1: I think maybe even a little bit by her design
Speaker 1: to be like another talking point is this, but it
Speaker 1: does get ugly because our society does not know, it's
Speaker 1: not capable of talking about this with care. She The
Speaker 1: other thing about her is that she invented past tense
Speaker 1: and also it is currently inventing the way in which
Speaker 1: a female pop star exists in the world, how her
Speaker 1: career progresses, Like the stages of her career are like
Speaker 1: beat for beat being projected into like every other girl
Speaker 1: doing it now. I think it is fair to say
Speaker 1: that like Gaga like pulled a lot from Madonna, it
Speaker 1: is fair to say that every single pop girl is
Speaker 1: like working from the blueprint that Donna has set. She's
Speaker 1: still drawing out the blueprint though. It like when these
Speaker 1: girls are in their sixties, like this is what they'll
Speaker 1: be doing. It will resemble something like this. And so
Speaker 1: it's fine that she like is looking the way she
Speaker 1: looks or is talking the way she talks for the
Speaker 1: most part, because it's like this has not been done before.
Speaker 1: Is that there to say? Yeah? Yeah? And I love
Speaker 1: just that she's able to live her own sixty, Like
Speaker 1: this is like sixty for her, and that to me
Speaker 1: is really exciting. You know, we don't have to give
Speaker 1: up anything when we age. We can actually just enhance
Speaker 1: and explore and be a part of this wonderful Like
Speaker 1: she's a place in a place where she can spend
Speaker 1: money on these things that I think give her the
Speaker 1: appearance that she wants and I think she looks great.
Speaker 1: Have you met her? I haven't, which is weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is I've never had the honor, so yeah, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, never worked out. She hasn't had the honor either. Well,
Speaker 1: she she do through a boom She she do through
Speaker 1: a boom boom room party. She does like a Pride
Speaker 1: party every year. So we just got to get those
Speaker 1: streams to cross. Yes, you should come to New York
Speaker 1: for Pride this year. I would love to. That would
Speaker 1: be fun and then we can hang out. There was
Speaker 1: all those rumors about us getting a Pride float last
Speaker 1: year for Fire Island. There was maybe for the sequel.
Speaker 1: We should make a sequel though, I mean I really
Speaker 1: think that we're we need to write. We see your idea,
Speaker 1: what's your pitch? Do you have? What's cooking in your
Speaker 1: brain because we know these ideas are percolating, your pitching
Speaker 1: and meetings, us doing a reality show, game show like
Speaker 1: what's going on? What's What's I know, the reality and
Speaker 1: also the yangover and Roger that in my podcast, my
Speaker 1: fake podcast network, the Fire Island Podcast Network. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's where Howie and Charlie getting married
Speaker 1: and we all go to the wedding, but it's in Provincetown.
Speaker 1: That seems like the right thing. Yeah, that's been what's percolating,
Speaker 1: I feel. And when you watched the movie back, what
Speaker 1: did you feel. We haven't seen you since I know,
Speaker 1: what was it like watching it? It was so exciting.
Speaker 1: It was so exciting. It's beautiful. I mean, it's just beautif.
Speaker 1: I saw a few times and I showed it to
Speaker 1: friends and I just, um, I really, it's just such
Speaker 1: a beautiful film, Like it's shot in such a sweeping,
Speaker 1: beautiful camera. Everybody looks so great, you know. I just
Speaker 1: also remember all the moments in between the scenes as well,
Speaker 1: like from from off camera. But just watching it was
Speaker 1: another level of like excitement and fun and you know,
Speaker 1: just appreciation for all of your work and Andrew's vision. Well,
Speaker 1: You're you're such a standout in it. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: scene with Joel All, I mean, all your scenes are excellent, fantastic,
Speaker 1: Margaret you Like we were watching it, We got to
Speaker 1: see it on the big screen a bunch because of
Speaker 1: the premiers you are doing. You always got such a
Speaker 1: huge response. And it's also like what you're saying is
Speaker 1: also like a really special thing about it. Like I
Speaker 1: do remember, like you know that scene where you're telling
Speaker 1: us that you're going to lose the house, Like I
Speaker 1: just remember that day, like us going leaving the table
Speaker 1: and then resetting and then leaving and resetting and trying
Speaker 1: different things. And yeah, it's like there was such a
Speaker 1: special experience because there was also like bonding going on
Speaker 1: between us in this thing that ended up being really
Speaker 1: good that I think we all thought was really good.
Speaker 1: And then to watch it, it's like, yeah, your shoulders
Speaker 1: drop a little bit and you breathe easier because you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this thing we thought was special actually really ended up
Speaker 1: in special. Yeah. Uh, well, we absolutely adore this individual.
Speaker 1: I love you honestly, like we love you so much.
Speaker 1: And so the tour starts when in Vancouver. It starts
Speaker 1: at February eighteenth in Vancouver and goes all over for
Speaker 1: the next year and check us on sale. Yes, Margaret
Speaker 1: Show dot com and Everywhere Show dot com and everywhere else.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. The touring girls this summer are Taylor Swift, Madonna, Beyonce,
Speaker 1: Margaret Show, Catch the Four Horse, Horrors of the Apocalypse,
Speaker 1: oh Man, and Lucia. It was great to have you.
Speaker 1: It's so good to see Lucia. We had every episode
Speaker 1: of the Song with a song, But what's the song
Speaker 1: I got? Jeez, it's allegrifying. Remember I did a dance
Speaker 1: routine to that one time and my parents and their
Speaker 1: friends all looked at me after because we were they
Speaker 1: were the judges, and they said it was a lot. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was well, lave it at that. Bye.