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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, back at it, five or six minutes late due

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Speaker 2: to Luke Thomas's computer. It is Morning Combat, the only

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Speaker 2: show that hits the skins for the hell of it,

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Speaker 2: just for the yell they get mmmmm, for the smell

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Speaker 2: of it. They want the bot. Here's the hot rod,

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Speaker 2: your boy. BC Friday, July twenty third, two and twenty one.

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports and Showtime are my employers, probably until the

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Speaker 2: end of this show. Brian Campbell, back at it. And

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Speaker 2: you know my cohort, my partner in crime, the only

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Speaker 2: fights by breaking that shit down. He's an old grizzle,

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Speaker 2: the veteran and a single mom this week. His name

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Speaker 2: is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sorry for the delay. My computer decided to update automatically.

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Speaker 3: I should not have had that setting on and I did,

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Speaker 3: and so it caused the show to be about five

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Speaker 3: or so minutes late. Apologies, but ready to go excited

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Speaker 1: BC. They are quite good.

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Speaker 3: Even though we had some last minute cancelations of a comin.

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Speaker 2: Event, absolutely and we got some We got a great

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Speaker 2: previewing the foundation here for this UFC Fight Night, all

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Speaker 2: things San hey Gan Dilu's shaw, a lot of news

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Speaker 2: an expansive growing list of BC interviews that are that

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Speaker 2: are hadding there. But Luke, I did want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: are you you're making meals, you're vacuuming, your chauffeurring, your

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Speaker 2: the dad and the mom right now? Are you surviving? Brother?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I took my daughter to this outdoor place yesterday where

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Speaker 3: I just had a couple of drinks just to relax.

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Speaker 3: I think people thought, I think people were judging me

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Speaker 1: We got home safe. Of course I didn't even hardly feel.

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Speaker 3: It and that, but otherwise, you know, it's been normal.

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Speaker 2: You've made a few bold claims in the history of

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Speaker 2: the show that you used to dunk with ease in

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Speaker 2: high school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, and you know that you need to not

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Speaker 3: say I dunk with ease.

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Speaker 1: That I could dunk, yes, but not with you.

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Speaker 2: Fifty seven b I need fifty seven beers to get tipsy.

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Speaker 2: So I was focused on that, but I just put

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, the alcohol is sold outside.

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Speaker 2: Our first topic, of course, is setting the stage for

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Speaker 2: how do we get there? Luke from a style matchup.

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Speaker 2: Obviously this has potential to be great, but what the

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Speaker 2: Cordin to McGregor, he's he's plenty of a snake. There,

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Speaker 2: good good, good poll right there, Luke, you beat me

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Speaker 2: And look there's still, like, like we said, lingering questions

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Speaker 2: But as far as the lay and the fans, Dila

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Speaker 2: Let's throw to some sound from the interview that you

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Speaker 2: Chicks still dig the long ball, Luke. The bad guys

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Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead, you got cut off there because they

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Speaker 2: Say again, I was just gonna say, you know, history

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to be a you want to be

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Speaker 1: None of them? None of them?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what kind of do you know what

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Speaker 3: But you want to be in the he has to

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Speaker 2: by you right there. Yeah, I love that. You're like,

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Speaker 2: the belt wasn't taken from him, you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, he wasn't beaten in Luke. You know something

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Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't. I don't. I'm not

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Speaker 2: A two year journey of beating top contenders like Leneker

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Speaker 2: and what have you to get back to just another

433
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Speaker 2: chance at that title, that experience level on I think

434
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Speaker 2: that helped create the chip. First of all, that he

435
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 2: was never a company guy, but I think that experience

436
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,679
Speaker 2: level has also just made him you know, where he

437
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Speaker 2: is or where he was let's say before the two

438
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Speaker 2: year break and you know, yeah, let's you know, f

439
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 2: the world here, let's see what he's got. So imagine, though, Luke,

440
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Speaker 2: if he hadn't lost those I know you could say

441
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Speaker 2: that about everybody, right, imagine if the judge went the

442
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Speaker 2: other way, but uh, you know, that would have been

443
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Speaker 2: fourteen straight wins. He had his run however you frame

444
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 2: it has been impressive in his career has been as well.

445
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna find out if he's still got it, Luke,

446
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 2: because this is the deepest of the deep end of

447
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Speaker 2: the pool, and no one's really talking about san Haagen, right,

448
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 2: you know, dill Shaw has controlled the narrative for obvious reasons,

449
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 2: but you know this is also san Haagan's chance to

450
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Speaker 2: get the biggest, uh and most important one of his career,

451
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Speaker 2: without question.

452
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Speaker 3: No doubt, and a winner, as we talked about on Wednesday,

453
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Speaker 3: is probably gonna get a title shot. But I think

454
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Speaker 3: more than that, like maybe one of the reasons del

455
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 3: Shaw wanted to come back against Sandhagen is maybe he

456
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,640
Speaker 3: likes his chances or whatever the case. You know, once

457
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 3: he get right back to the title. But like dude,

458
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Speaker 3: he's thirty five. We talked about it on Wednesday thirty five. Now,

459
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 3: the good news is, remember we had both shoulders repaired

460
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Speaker 3: after he popped, and he was able to address, you know,

461
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Speaker 3: a lot of lingering injuries that had kind of been

462
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Speaker 3: affecting him for all this time. And so there's definitely

463
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Speaker 3: some benefit to just hitting the pause button on your career,

464
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: either forced two or otherwise, and then getting your body

465
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Speaker 3: right and still training and not having that competitive cycles

466
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Speaker 3: go through where you know you're just constantly getting banged around.

467
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Speaker 3: I think that will actually serve him quite well. I

468
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Speaker 3: mean that quite legitimately. But at thirty five years of age, dude, TJ.

469
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Speaker 3: Dilshall is not a dumbass like he knows. Man, if

470
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Speaker 3: you're gonna make an impact, if you really want to

471
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Speaker 3: get back to the top of this division, I don't think.

472
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he couldn't have taken any easier fight

473
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Speaker 3: and gotten there relatively quickly, But time is just absolutely

474
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Speaker 3: not on his side. You've got to be young and

475
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Speaker 3: hungry in this division if you want to be at

476
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Speaker 3: the top of it, and he certainly is hungry, he

477
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 3: certainly is talented, but he's not young anymore and that

478
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Speaker 3: will work against him, if not so much on Saturday overtime,

479
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Speaker 3: and I think he understands that.

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Speaker 2: I guess I close by asking this question only because

481
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Speaker 2: this may be the last time this question is viable.

482
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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens on Saturday. But if TJ. Dillashaw

483
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Speaker 2: wins this fight and then beats the winner of Yan

484
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Speaker 2: versus Al Joe Too and reclaims the belt, does that

485
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Speaker 2: get Henry'sahodo up in the bullpen?

486
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Speaker 3: I was just thinking about that. I went back and

487
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Speaker 3: I watched the Sahuda fight with Dila Shaw from you

488
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Speaker 3: know to January twenty nineteen, w whatever it was, and

489
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Speaker 3: I hope I don't think it does. I think you know,

490
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 3: the guy's done. But Coley Man, like, you know, you

491
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Speaker 3: want talk about a guy. People don't understand that Henry

492
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 3: to Hudo when he first got into MMA was a

493
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Speaker 3: bit of a fuck up, like missing weight and just

494
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: kind of all over the place. And his run at

495
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: the end of USA Wrestling was not so great either,

496
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Speaker 3: So he kind of flamed out there and I just

497
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: and he was training with something weird, like you know, oh,

498
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 3: they're putting you know, carbonation in your water. I'd makes

499
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 3: your muscles grow like you know, just total snake oil salesman.

500
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Speaker 3: But eventually he got.

501
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Speaker 2: A bunch of fabias.

502
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Speaker 3: Luke Okay, Yeah, he got right with the right people

503
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 3: and you could just see the difference.

504
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Speaker 1: I mean, he turned into an absolute killing machine. You know.

505
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Speaker 3: I would love to say see that. I would love

506
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Speaker 3: to see them run that one back if they can

507
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Speaker 3: get to that point, but I'm afraid I don't think

508
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Speaker 3: it's possible.

509
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Speaker 2: By way, shout out to front of the show, Eric Albert,

510
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 2: I've seen Luke, who is not only the one of

511
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Speaker 2: the geniuses beyond Tahudo. But we'll have pit Bull next

512
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Speaker 2: week against McKee Luke. We haven't formally announced it, but

513
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Speaker 2: you and I will be dropping a resume review next

514
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Speaker 2: week on that great belatour main event that is July

515
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Speaker 2: thirty first. So a lot of people waiting to see

516
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Speaker 2: who they should put their money on based upon who

517
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Speaker 2: we chose Luke, So it should be interesting.

518
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know who is gonna you know, we'll

519
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 3: see who appreciates that spending an hour and a half

520
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 3: going through the history of dude. The history of Pitbull

521
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 3: is in many ways the history of Bellator, like kind

522
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 3: of you know, to see all the eras, Like if

523
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Speaker 3: you go and watch Pitbull's career, you just see all

524
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Speaker 3: the mats, MTV two and ESPN de Portes and all

525
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, and then you know, we've said

526
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: this before, you'll see it in the resume review. Featherweight

527
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: has just always been a mar quy division in belt

528
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: or even going back to the Yourn Rebney days, and

529
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: he was a big fixture of that back then. You

530
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: can just understand the growth of this organization through that.

531
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Speaker 3: You know, we'll see who appreciates all the work we

532
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: put into it, BC if you know what I'm saying.

533
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Speaker 3: But I'm pretty proud of what we did.

534
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well yeah, I will say though, Luke,

535
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Speaker 2: that you know, if Pitbull was the history of belat

536
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: or you know, obviously McKee, if anyone is looking like

537
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Speaker 2: the future. So that's why this fight is so great, Luke,

538
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 2: I wonder like now I will say it for next week.

539
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: A lot of great stuff talking about that fight. We'll

540
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: save that for next week. We continue down the road

541
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Speaker 2: of this UFC fight night, Luke, and that Colmine event

542
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 2: is unfortunately gone now. It was supposed to be asked

543
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: been Lad returning from the what seventeen eighteen monthlyoff following

544
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: ACL and MCL tear surgery. She was supposed to be

545
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Speaker 2: facing Macy Chaison, Luke Chaison bro people, you know, not

546
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Speaker 2: all those other incarnations we attempted well.

547
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Speaker 3: In fairness, I said, I did not know how to

548
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Speaker 3: pronounce it correctly, so but that's that's the way you

549
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: do at Chaison.

550
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: I think I got one of those in my deck

551
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Speaker 2: right a Chase Shay's lounge or something, Luke. Either way,

552
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: Luke uh may. She pulled out with an injury. Per

553
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Speaker 2: Aspen ladds social media, the fight is off. Really disappointing

554
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 2: because you know Lad's ready. It seems to make those

555
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: kind of statements where we get her in line and

556
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: she's gonna have to wait. But Luke, I did chat

557
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Speaker 2: with Aspen Lad and although the fight is no longer happening,

558
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: the interview is still happening on YouTube dot com Slash

559
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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Here's a little snippet of your boy BC

560
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Speaker 2: hanging out with Aspen, what have you been doing in

561
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: the in the in the time off, you know mentally

562
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: internally to feel like is that who you are moving forward?

563
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: Did that fight feel like a turning point of some kind?

564
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: Not necessarily, that was just when I finally listened to

565
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 3: my coach, which I should have been doing the entire time.

566
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Speaker 3: So that was more.

567
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Speaker 2: I'm just very us in my team and I need to.

568
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: Focus a little bit better.

569
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Speaker 5: But coming back, there's so much build up as any

570
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 5: things I couldn't do, so everything has had to be

571
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 5: precise to a certain point.

572
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: Training is precise. What I can do on a certain

573
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: month is precise, Like I don't know, it's just rebuilding

574
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Speaker 2: everything from the ground up basically.

575
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Speaker 1: Okay.

576
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: Look that was of course in reference in the beginning

577
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Speaker 2: to her win over Yana Kunitskay, in which her coach

578
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: motivated her to turn that corner in round three. So look,

579
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Speaker 2: I mean, what's your reaction here? You are disappointed, right.

580
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Speaker 3: But super and by the way, I guess, yeah, it

581
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 3: was Chassen who pulled out. It was not Aspen, lad

582
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Speaker 3: and she you know, she's understandably frustrated. B See what

583
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Speaker 3: do you think about this? And we's spin it back

584
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Speaker 3: to you for here for a second. People are saying

585
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Speaker 3: this now, and I don't you know, you could argue

586
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: maybe it's a little premature, because I did see Misha

587
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: Tate say she wanted Raquel Pennington again because that was

588
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: the initial fight that kind of retired her, so she

589
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Speaker 3: wants to get that one back. Fair enough, I'd love

590
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Speaker 3: to see that one. I think that's a great idea.

591
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Speaker 3: But if not, where are you on Tate versus Lad?

592
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great frickin fight. I just you know,

593
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: some people don't like this about me that I don't

594
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: tend to side with promoters, but I tend to think

595
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: more with a promoter's mind than a fan at times.

596
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's just the fact that I'm a jaded boxing

597
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: journalist who you constantly have to try to think that

598
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Speaker 2: way to sort of understand the lay of the land.

599
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Speaker 2: But I don't know, I'd kind of like to see

600
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Speaker 2: Tate see this is what this is a counter statement

601
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Speaker 2: to make, because it's against the basics of what we

602
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: love about the MMA and the success of the UFC

603
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: post zuofa purchase because it's always the best against the best,

604
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: most competitive. I don't care what your name is, you're

605
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: never getting an easy one. But I kind of want

606
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: to see Tate if she's going going to the title

607
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: about you know, going there with name in us, not

608
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 2: really knowing how great she is on the comeback, and

609
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Speaker 2: then having her the chance of her getting exposed and

610
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: never get there against a tough person in line. And look,

611
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Speaker 2: I don't typically say that, right, like that's against everything

612
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 2: I typically believe in, but I would rather see that.

613
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Speaker 2: I'd rather see, you know, Misha get a little bit

614
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: of softer handling. You can get a good main event

615
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: out of her rematching Rocky and you know, build toward

616
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: the idea of making Amanda versus Tate a bigger rematch.

617
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: But you know that's that's a commercial way to look

618
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: at it.

619
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Speaker 3: Lib fair enough, It's just something that is coming up,

620
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: and I think UFC, I don't think they'll pull the

621
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: trigger on it. And aspen Lad, by the way, it's

622
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: getting a lot better at doing media. I don't think

623
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Speaker 3: she's gonna whip the crack the whip on that necessarily,

624
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: but it is something that sort of came across my

625
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: timeline and it would be intriguing.

626
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you rather match her in a GDR rematch, which

627
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: could really help her skip the line and get into

628
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: the title picture right now.

629
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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, there's a lot of good options. Sure, I mean, finally,

630
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: women's bantam when is beginning to like, you know, Mihul

631
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: Tate bringing in a injecting some life into it, the

632
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: resurgence of Aspen Ladd and GDR's just eventual culmination to

633
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: the fighter she's becomes. Yeah, there's a lot of ALDNNA

634
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: doing the ways of like it's finally starting to cook

635
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: up a little bit again, and you can't go wrong

636
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 3: by going a number of different directions, Luke.

637
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Speaker 2: Speaking of different directions, there were people who enjoyed the

638
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 2: Aspen lad, but I got a lot of DMS saying

639
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: I should have extended the invitation to interview her mother

640
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: as well. I didn't really understand that connotation.

641
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: I'm going to leave that one alone.

642
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, something about Cougar's or something. I didn't really look

643
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: into it, but that the interview is still available, Luke. Look,

644
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: this card also has some fights that we talked about

645
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: storyline wise on Wednesday that just have us jumping on

646
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: the inside. One of those, of course, Women's flyweight. Macy

647
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: Barber Miranda Maverick. We know what's at stake. We know

648
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: the uniqueness of this matchup of twenty four year old

649
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: versus twenty three year old. Both could have next. Barber's

650
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: got a lot of questions to answer all that, ish, Luke,

651
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: But what the heck is this fight gonna look like?

652
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be Maverick taking down Barber and really

653
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: remaining dominant on the ground and going that route to

654
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: get it, or is it going to be a Macy Barber,

655
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: who is you know, as savage as ever going for

656
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: that early knockout or both? Luke, what are we going

657
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: to see here?

658
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see sticking and moving and angles

659
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: from Miranda Maverick. I think that's really what you're going

660
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: to see. I think Barber is gonna try and pressure

661
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: her either against the fence, because she actually is very good.

662
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: Barbara really excels not just in the clinch, but in

663
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: the early stages of any kind of clinch engagement where

664
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: she can turn and then fire an elbow. She's actually

665
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: very very good at that, and they can be either

666
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: slashing elbows that cut, they can be obviously devastating elbows

667
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: that hurt. She's big there. But I really think the

668
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: difference is going to try to be on the ground.

669
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: I do not think in any capacity that Miranda Maverick

670
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: is bad on the ground. She's good on the ground,

671
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: very good. But what I would say is, you know,

672
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: the best part of her game is not necessarily on

673
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: the ground. The best part of her game is the

674
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: reads and adjustment she makes in the middle of a fight,

675
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: listening to her coach and what she sees otherwise. On

676
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: the feet. That is really where she is just very

677
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: very very good. You can see some of the elbows

678
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: here from Macy Barbara from her fight with Alexa Grosso.

679
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: She lost that fire, but that is something she excels at.

680
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm.

681
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: Looking for, looking to see is who can really implement

682
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: the geographical imposition. Macy Barber is gonna be trying to

683
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: pressure her, I think, obviously push her against the fence,

684
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: take her down at least to some extent. I don't

685
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: know if she's gonna I don't want to say she's

686
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: gonna be like a BBC where she's gonna relentlessly go

687
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: over the takedown, but I do think close quarters, whatever

688
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: that means, is what she's gonna be looking for and

689
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: Maverick's gonna try and keep it a distance, and I

690
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: think early on, I think Maverick is gonna have a

691
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: hard time. The question is this is what you'll always

692
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: have to understand about my random Maverick. If she stays

693
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: on the feet, she is going to make adjustments. And

694
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: once she makes adjustments, again, I'm not saying she's Floyd Mayweather.

695
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: But one thing about Floyd that you understand is he

696
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: takes away certain things over the course of a fight.

697
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: So about round seven or eight, all the weapons they

698
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: were using arounds one, two, and three, they don't really

699
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: exist anymore. They have to go to something else. He's

700
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: very good about that. Maverick is obviously not on that level.

701
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: But she has the ability. I'm telling you, the ability

702
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: in MMA to make mid round adjustments that actually stick

703
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: and work is rare.

704
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to do.

705
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: She's got it. I've seen it a number of times.

706
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: So once that happens, what does Barber do? I think

707
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: that's to me where the fight is going to be

708
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: won or lost.

709
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: And Demitrius Johnson, by the way, has to be the

710
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: ultimate master in that in that you know, superlative you

711
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: just you know, identified there, Luke. But to your to

712
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: the point you referenced earlier, that's interesting that you think

713
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: a Miranda Maverick ground heavy attack would only be let's say,

714
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: a desperation move out of response to Barbara having big

715
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: success on the feed early.

716
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: No, quite the opposite. What I'm saying is Maverick might

717
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: go to the ground again. Maverick is hardly bad on

718
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: the ground. She's good, She's very.

719
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: See that, but look, do you see that as the

720
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: path to taking away Macy's best strengths.

721
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: No?

722
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: I think on the feet Maverick is much better. Again

723
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: early on, that could get dicey where you're not used

724
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: to their blitzing or what you know what entry When

725
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: I say entry level, I don't mean like basic. I

726
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: mean the beginning of the fight ever attack she has there.

727
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna take probably some time from Miranda to adjust

728
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: to that. So once that happens, though, once that switch

729
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: is flipped and she's able to take away whatever Barbara

730
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: is doing, what does Barbara have as her second or

731
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: third gear. I'm not saying she doesn't have one, In fact,

732
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: I'm just curious to see what it is. But that

733
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: to me is where the fight's gonna be one or

734
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: lost if it stays on the feet. For sure, Maverick's

735
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: gonna find a second or third gear. She's very very smart,

736
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: very very capable in that way. Can the opponent follow

737
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: we shall see.

738
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, Barbara's got so much to show us, Luke.

739
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: We know, we know that there is this Tasmanian devil

740
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: warrior inside of her, and she showed that even in defeat.

741
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, Looke, just you know, not to be labor this,

742
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: but what do you most need to see out of

743
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: Macy to show that she's learned from those two losses

744
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: and that this wasn't haste matchmaking, to try to like

745
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: double down and prove to everybody that she's still the thing.

746
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: I think just exactly.

747
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: I mean, this is why the Maverick fight, dude, This

748
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: is clever match making on a number of levels. In

749
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: the fights where she's lost, she had the injury one time,

750
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: but the other time she just couldn't get around what

751
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: Grasso was doing and just kind of seemed to be

752
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: flailing in there. She didn't actually have in those cases

753
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: the extra gears that she needed. Now they might have

754
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: been there, and she was unable to access them. Remember,

755
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: she's still got what less than ten fights total in

756
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: her career something like that. I mean, what, it's her

757
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: record eight and two, so she's got ten total fights.

758
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: You know, we're still talking about a very junior fighter

759
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: at this point. You can work on all the things

760
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: you want to work on in the gym, but being

761
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: able to go to that place when it's required is

762
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: Actually it's not automatic. Folks think it's automatic. It actually

763
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: takes a little bit of work in time and development.

764
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: So I know that it's there. The question is can

765
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: she pull it out of herself. She was not able

766
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: to do that against Grasso. Now grass was a little

767
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: bit of a different fighter than Maverick in a few ways,

768
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: but there are some overlapping similarities to good jab good

769
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: lateral movement, that kind of a thing like both of

770
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: them kind of stick behind it. So in many ways,

771
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: it's like it's not Alexa Grasso two point zero.

772
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: But what I would say is BC.

773
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: Some of the things that she was not able to

774
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: overcome in the Grassow fight she might face again this

775
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: time out. Well, now you got a second try at

776
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: some of those things again, some of them. Let's see

777
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: what you got let's see what you got. And if

778
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: you can't do that, I think you're asking, like what

779
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: I want see from Barbara even if she loses BC,

780
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 3: but it's close and she's able to make some adjustments

781
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: of her own. I think I'd be okay with that.

782
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure she'd be upset with it, but

783
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: I'd be like, okay, all right, fine. But if she

784
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: gets stuck in a rut where she doesn't have an answer,

785
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: like Mike Perry against who did he fight? Where he

786
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: just you know, was walking into punches, I forget who

787
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: it was.

788
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: He just didn't. Yeah, I forget who it was too.

789
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: I remember that it was Luka.

790
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: I think, or to a little bit.

791
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: It's like, if you don't have that ability to get

792
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: out of what you're good at, if that's not good

793
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: enough and you don't have a second or third place

794
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: you can pivot to do that octagon as a lonely place.

795
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm looking for, is win or lose. Yes,

796
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: of course that's important, But can you show and demonstrate

797
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: all of these layers to your game that you need

798
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: to really be successful long term?

799
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: I think you were referencing the Daniel Rodriguez fight, Luke,

800
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: because I thought Perry had moments against Tim Olly.

801
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

802
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: Okay, indeed, right there, we'll see look musty matchup as

803
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: we close on these betting odds where at plus one

804
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: twenty five at William Hill for Macy Barber, minus one

805
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: fifty for Maverick the favorite, Luke, I'm telling you right now,

806
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: you know I've been wrong a lot in my life.

807
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: Feeling really good about Dila Shaw Barber. I'm sorry, Dila Shaw,

808
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: Maverick parlay right here for the first Saturday Night Okay,

809
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 2: just you know, if you're into that cool Billshaw Maverick,

810
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: just something feels right about.

811
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: It, Luke, Okay, yeah, cool, all right, it was great.

812
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: It was great talking to you, all right, So let's

813
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: keep it moving here, Luke. On this Fight Night card,

814
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: any other fights we certainly identified from a storyline standpoint,

815
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: why they matter?

816
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: Do you?

817
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: Are you feeling any specific winner here? Who who do

818
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: you think is looking strong entering some of these more

819
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 2: musty matchups on the prelims and make card.

820
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: The other fight that I guess I got the most

821
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: amount of interest in would be the Adrian Janez fight

822
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: and Randy Costa or Audrey and Janez uh because Janez

823
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: is a you know, he's a junior fighter in the

824
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: sense of where he's at in his career. You know,

825
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 3: he's not obviously with thirteen and three, that's a little

826
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: more mid range in terms of experience level. But he's

827
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: just so talented. He's so talented, he's got so many

828
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 3: things going on, and I don't think those loss I

829
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: don't think his record fully reflects.

830
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: I would say the.

831
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: Talent that his potential kind of tantalizes, because you can

832
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: see he's like, man, if you can build on what

833
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: you got here, you can you can do some things

834
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: in this in this business. And a guy like Randy

835
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: Costa six and one is just an absolute fucking hammer.

836
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: I mean, listen to his numbers. Strikes landed per minute

837
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: seven point eight eight, folks, that's justin Gaichee pre reformation territory.

838
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about a guy who's just going

839
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: out there and just laying it on the line with

840
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: the amount of volume that he can sometimes throw, but

841
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: he does get hit a bit five point two six

842
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: well strikes absorb per minute. Well, a guy like Janez,

843
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he is just a sniper and clever, clever striker,

844
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: but you know that's an overwhelming force you're going up against.

845
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: So to be able to use.

846
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: Smarts and brains and accuracy and sort of clever tricks

847
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: to beat a guy like Costa would be extremely I'll

848
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: say this, either way Costa wins or Yanez wins. Either way,

849
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: it would be proof of concept of the kind of

850
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: game that they have developed to this point.

851
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: Luke Costa, although he's got you know, he's off the

852
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: great start, he's got a lot to prove to us. Still,

853
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: it just he feels like there's like a star magnetism

854
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: to him. I don't know if he's going to become

855
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: a star if he has that ability, but I feel

856
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: like he kind of has the swagger at the very.

857
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 1: Least he does.

858
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: Although I'm a little bit higher personally, I mean nothing

859
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: against cost I don't mean to say that. I just

860
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: mean when I make a list of prospects that I've

861
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: got my eye on as somebody who can do something special,

862
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: Costa is on the list. But I'm just a little

863
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: bit more intrigued about what Jenees can do. Again, It's

864
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: not so much that the one we've gotten now is

865
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: the guy. It's like there was a time like sometimes

866
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: you get these guys I don't know, Like I don't

867
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: know what the best example is other than like the

868
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: all time greats. But sometimes people come around they're like

869
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: ready to go right out the box.

870
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: Oh.

871
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: I don't think Yez has been that way, but I

872
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: think he's getting to a point where if you can

873
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: build on what you've been showing, you can get to

874
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 3: a place where you have to take him seriously as

875
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: a blue chip prospect. And a fight like this, even

876
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: though he's a three inch reached disadvantage, tells us a

877
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: lot about whether he's he's got that in him.

878
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: Absolutely there, Luke, and yeah, very much looking forward to it.

879
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: I want to also take a quick focus on Walterwait,

880
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: Mickey Gall who's on the prelim taking on Jordan Williams.

881
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: Gall coming in as a plus one forty five underdog,

882
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: and Luke he needs a win here, you know, off

883
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: of that Mike Perry loss and the little brief pockets

884
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: of hype he had at certain points in his career.

885
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: I feel like this is one of those turning point fights.

886
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: Do you know a ton about Jordan Williams and the

887
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: threat he'll bring to Gall.

888
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: He's a bit of a slugger. He has some losses

889
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: to some good fighters. He's got some wins over some

890
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: okay ones, I'll say this like, Gall should kind of

891
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: win this. I don't know if he's the betting favorite

892
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: or not. I don't think that he or maybe he is,

893
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: I don't really know.

894
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: Look, I just told you that he was a plus

895
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: one forty five under five.

896
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: Sorry I didn't hear that poart. Okay, I apologize, Okay,

897
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: but it's pretty close. It's pretty close, right. You just

898
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 3: got two fighters here who have had moments where they've shown,

899
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: but they've got a lot of deficiencies. They've got a

900
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: lot of things that just keep creeping up. I mean,

901
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 3: here we go, we're talking about numbers BC Mickey Gall

902
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: two point five to five strikes landing permitted. Okay, it's

903
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: a little low, but it's fine. That's not in any

904
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: way abnormal. But he absorbs three point sixty five. I mean,

905
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: he's got a negative differential by a full integer. That's

906
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 3: fairly rare in the UFC. You don't see a lot

907
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: of that, and he's got one. And Jordan Williams, who

908
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: I think is okay, but has taken a little more

909
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: damage than I would have liked. You know, six point

910
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: oh seven to five point seven to seven. He's basically

911
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty when he throws. In terms of offensive defense,

912
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: I think if Mickey Gall can show mickiy Galls always

913
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: been a pretty good grappler, but that really hasn't been

914
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: true of late, or least he hasn't been able to

915
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 3: show that of late. I think what I would like

916
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: to see is just a little bit of aggression and

917
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 3: hunger and drive. I think he I don't know if

918
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: this is true, b see, it just has looked like

919
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 3: it has looked like at times that he felt like

920
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: he was better than his opposition and kind of had

921
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: a bit of a slow moving approach to the fight

922
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: versus like, oh my god, I got a roll threat here,

923
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: I can get out. I can get out through it

924
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: if I really just take it to him. I'd like

925
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: to see a little bit more of that from him,

926
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: a little bit of gusto, so to speak, and an urgency.

927
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: Urgency I think is the word I would use.

928
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: He's twenty nine, and it's not like, you know, he

929
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: gets cut if he loses, But you feel like if

930
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: he might is here, you feel like if he loses here,

931
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna know who he's going to be the rest

932
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: of his career. Even though there's obviously still time, we

933
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: haven't seen the best of him. You know, sometimes guys

934
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: don't get to a point where they can unlock the

935
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: best of themselves. They never get there. So he's got

936
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 2: to win this one in some ways. So that's gonna

937
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: be interesting. Look, that's all I got for this card

938
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: on Saturday. We talked about some of those other matchups earlier,

939
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: but Big Dent with Aspin lad gone, but still looking

940
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: forward to it. Let's hit up Boxing News quickly because

941
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: that's what the MMA fans love. But this is a

942
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: great story if you're a boxing fan and all the

943
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: crap that boxing tends to do with you. We don't

944
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: tend to always praise negativity and hate on the sanctioning bodies,

945
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: but we do a lot for rightful reasons. How about

946
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: we applaud the sanctioning bodies. The WBO has came out

947
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: and ordered a mandatory title defense for WBO unbeating welterweight

948
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: champion Terrence Crawford again. Showtime Sean Porter, who currently resides

949
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: with the PBC on the other side of the political tracks,

950
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: but is obviously a former two time welterweight champion and

951
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: gave Eryl Spence all he could in that pay per

952
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: view thriller. Luke, they have thirty days to make a

953
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: deal or it goes to per spid, which would mean

954
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: any promoter or really network, because the networks and promoters

955
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: are so much aligned, anybody can just swoop in and

956
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: put the biggest bid out there and steal the fight, Luke,

957
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: before I throw it to you, on your reaction here

958
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: is let's remember Crawford's got one fight left on his

959
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: top rank deal. There was a lot of rumors that

960
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: it was just going to be a crappy throwaway fight

961
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: against nobody, and the top rank was gonna let him go.

962
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what that future means, but if we

963
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: can get a sanctioning body to rather than take away

964
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: from things we like, actually potentially add to it by

965
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: forcing these two to negotiate him by the way, Crawford

966
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: has to fight him or give up the belt. And

967
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: Crawford's more than willing. He's been wanting to get these

968
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: guys in the ring. Hey, it's one of those times, Lukey,

969
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: hanging around boxing long enough, good things will happen amid

970
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: all the other crap.

971
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, it's not the fight that anybody asks for.

972
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 3: Boxing doesn't give you those very often.

973
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: If ever, it's a good replacement though it's not Spence,

974
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: but it's a good replacement.

975
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: It's a great replacement. That's what I was gonna say.

976
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: It's an intriguing bout. I mean, Bud Crawford. How out

977
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: is Bud Crawford at this point thirty five thirty four?

978
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: Dude?

979
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he's the sand is going through the hourglass, you.

980
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: Know, no doubt about it.

981
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 3: And Porter, I think you know, he's got a lot

982
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: of He's just a Tasmanian devil in there when he

983
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: gets after it, which I think will give a tactician

984
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: like Crawford some problems early. But if Crawford is who

985
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: we think he is, then he should be able to

986
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: overcome it. And watching him do that, if he can

987
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: do that, would be interesting. But I'll say, you know,

988
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: Crawford all this time kind of just giving away long

989
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: stretches of his career, not fighting bums exactly. I don't

990
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: think that's quite fair. But not fighting exactly the guys

991
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: who he should have been, not just including Spence. That

992
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: will eventually catch up with him if he lets it.

993
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: I just don't know if this is the moment, But

994
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: either way, it's a tough it's you know, tactician versus brawler,

995
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 3: which is, you know, somewhat of a crude assessment, but

996
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: the basic archetypes work there. That's a great fight. That's

997
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: a fun fight. I'm actually and by the way, Bob

998
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: Aram's saying he's confident that they can get a deal done,

999
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: that I won't even have to go to purspid, that

1000
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 3: he can find a way to make it all work.

1001
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 3: So I gotta tell you, I'd be pretty excited to

1002
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: see that.

1003
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: This would be interesting because it does have potential to

1004
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 2: be a you know, a two network pay per view.

1005
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: But for as great as this fight is, and it's great,

1006
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not sure it would do big numbers

1007
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: on pay per view. So I wonder if this will

1008
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: be aeron and top rank From a business side sort

1009
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: of punting and saying, Okay, we got Crawford for one

1010
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: more fight. We don't think he's gonna resign with us.

1011
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: We don't necessarily want to jump off out of our shoes.

1012
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: To throw a ton of money at him to resign,

1013
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: So this is a way to just pawn him off.

1014
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: Go ahead, PBC on Fox or Showtime or whatever. You

1015
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: can take this and put it on pay per view yourselves.

1016
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's going to be the case, or

1017
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 2: if Bob's going to try to win this, or or

1018
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: if either will be or will let it to go

1019
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 2: to PERSPID or if you know who knows it's an option.

1020
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: PBC and Al Hayman could just pull out of this

1021
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: all together and be like, no, we'll wait for Crawford

1022
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: steal to expire so we can come to us and

1023
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: sign with us. I mean, there's a lot of crap

1024
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: that could happen, and if you care about the boxing

1025
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: business side, it could get pretty interesting here in the

1026
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: next thirty days as we get closer. But obviously, Luke,

1027
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: the hole in the goal is to see this fight

1028
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: next and the winner against the winner of Spence Pakia

1029
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: would not be a horrible way to have a little

1030
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: welterweight title final four going on.

1031
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that won't happen because that would be good and

1032
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: boxing doesn't do those kinds of things for us. But

1033
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: I agree in theory sounds awesome.

1034
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: All right. Well, sometimes Luke, that the sanctioning bodies you know,

1035
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: give rarely, they usually take away. Here's a potential development

1036
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: on that.

1037
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 3: Uh.

1038
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: We read the Instagram comments of Jamel Charlo on Wednesday

1039
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 2: about how into the idea he is at running back

1040
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: that junior middleweight one fifty four to four belt unification

1041
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: bout undisputed championship against Bran Kestanio following of course they'll

1042
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: split draw two weeks ago. I did say, though, Luke,

1043
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: right after that great fight, you know, boxing Shenanigans, let's

1044
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: hope we could see this next. I don't think we're

1045
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: gonna see it next, Luke. Why because the IBF has

1046
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: officially ordered Jermel to defend his title against Bachrum Murtazaliev,

1047
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: who is an unbeaten but very very very unproven and

1048
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: largely unknown UH junior middleweight Luke, who's promoted by main events.

1049
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: He's he's been the mandatory since twenty nineteen. He's taken

1050
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: step aside money in the past and fought deep on

1051
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: Charlo undercards to sort of like okay, almost like we're

1052
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: not ready yet, but we will be now. It seems

1053
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: like Kathy do have a man events are ready to

1054
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: kind of see what they have with this fighter, So Luke,

1055
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: Charlotte will have to make a deal to defend that

1056
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: or give up his belt. So it doesn't look like

1057
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: we're getting the four belt championship next, but can we

1058
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: do early twenty twenty two?

1059
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: Luke?

1060
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: Would that make you happy?

1061
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: You know?

1062
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 3: It's I don't even know what to say about this.

1063
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: Boxing is frustrating, dude. It's a great sport, Like once

1064
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: they're in there and they're going it's a great it's

1065
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: a phenomenal sport. But Jesus Christ, the way they have

1066
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 3: organized things is it's a mess. It's a real mess.

1067
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: And we've said this before. When Canelo fault, you'll deerhm.

1068
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 3: And it wasn't a big deal because he was still

1069
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: gonna be active and fight three maybe four times in

1070
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: a year and blah. So like in that sense, it

1071
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: wasn't a big deal. But like with these guys fighting

1072
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: two times a year one of these mandatories, especially if

1073
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: the mandatory ends up being a little bit tougher than

1074
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: they imagine and they're like, oh, I need to go

1075
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: take a break and reset and blah blah blah, and

1076
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: it's like you know.

1077
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: You just lose. If Kristanya or Charlo lose in the interrum,

1078
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: it's like.

1079
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: Oh crap, there we go right exactly, or you know,

1080
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: they just take longer breaks and then you know there's

1081
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: still be They would still be interesting if they if

1082
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 3: they remained unbeaten in between the first fight and the second,

1083
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: such as that the situation could be arranged. But Jesus

1084
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 3: christ Man, all these guys you got to go fight,

1085
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: you know, Smi Schmo, the pee taster, because he was

1086
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 3: the number one interim ranked fucking whoever the fuck can tender,

1087
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: and you got to go shout.

1088
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: Out in that NT loop? Did you shout out the schmother?

1089
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: No, I'm making up words for these guys' names, So

1090
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: they end up being just you know, we'll you'll throw

1091
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 3: them in there with the superstars. I understand the whole Yes, Yes,

1092
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 3: Apple Sauce McGee, the fuck face extraordinary.

1093
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: It's just it's very frustrating. It's very frustrating, Luke.

1094
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: If we proposed to our merch team today to add

1095
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: an Apple Sauce fuck face McGee uh T shirt, how

1096
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: soon do you think they can get it.

1097
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: Up there on our site By the time Castano and

1098
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: Charlo rematch.

1099
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, there you go, and you know,

1100
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: it's like the boxing mandatory system is like in theory,

1101
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: it's perfect, so like it's not a It makes it

1102
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: so that if you're worthy, you get the title shot,

1103
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: and you know, even if you're not commercially viable, or

1104
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: even if you don't have the right promoter and all

1105
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: that shit. But obviously it's a system that goes under

1106
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: a lot of abuse across the four sanctioning bodies, and

1107
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: many times, Luke, these number one contenders tend to be

1108
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 2: guys you've never heard of, who have never fought out

1109
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: of their home country and aren't ranked in any other

1110
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: of the rank sanctioning bodies, you know what I mean saying.

1111
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: So it's like we're we on the up and up here.

1112
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: There's usually a lot of that bullshit, but boxing gives

1113
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: it takes, Luke. It is a little bit like when

1114
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: we you and I have these talks, you as the

1115
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: m M a guy coming in and seeing the sins

1116
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: in my family. It's like bringing like the hot chick

1117
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: over to your like you know, thanksgiving family thing and

1118
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 2: not preparing her that your family's uh, you know, batshit

1119
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: crazy and weird things happen right in front of everybody,

1120
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: and uh, it's kind of like, yep, Luke, this is

1121
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: this is what we're willing to mine through to get

1122
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: that gold right ourselves. With that drug that we need, Luke,

1123
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: which is big time boxing. You actually need that drug too, Luke.

1124
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: You need it.

1125
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: I do I do. Big Time boxing is without Pierre.

1126
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: I think the best that the very best that boxing

1127
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: has to offer is basically the best that combat sports

1128
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: has to offer, with some pretty limited exception here or there.

1129
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 3: It's just Jesus christ Man like, it's I mean, this

1130
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 3: is I bring it up. I sound like a broken

1131
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: record at this point because I bring it up so consistently.

1132
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna it's worth thinking about, dude, y'all out

1133
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: there proposing all these solutions about how to change MMA

1134
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 3: to get fighters more.

1135
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: Rights and money.

1136
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 3: Okay, fine, noble goal in every way, better think long

1137
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 3: and hard about the consequences of what path you want

1138
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: to go down, because getting to a place where we're

1139
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: more like boxing seems to me, for the consumer's perspective,

1140
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: a fucking disaster. So just keep that in mind.

1141
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: You're like, you're like, if you like the fighting, the

1142
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: way you have always loved it. Do not support fighter rights?

1143
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: Thank you? More news out eleven. I'm Luke Thomas. I'll

1144
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: be here.

1145
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: No. No, Obviously fighter are entitled to a remedy, and a

1146
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 3: big one at that. But do you want to change

1147
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 3: the industry so that they have the kind of control

1148
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: and that other stakeholders who are absent from MMA today,

1149
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: like a sanctioning body.

1150
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: Do you want that in MMA? Because what would be

1151
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: the case for it?

1152
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: And here my question, we see what would be the

1153
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: case for it from the consumer's perspective, And they always

1154
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: talk about, oh, you'd get all the fights that you

1155
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: can't get. Well, you would get more cross promotional fights,

1156
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: that's true, but you would get a lot of fighters

1157
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: avoiding risk, and you would get a lot of other

1158
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 3: players in the middle, making the fights that fans would

1159
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: want to normally see much more difficult.

1160
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: To come by. I don't think that's an upgrade.

1161
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: You'd also get a shit ton of corruption, So you know,

1162
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: it's great, It's great at the end of the day,

1163
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 2: all right, Luke, speaking of this sport we love. Tonight

1164
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: is a milestone moment for our friends over there at Showbox.

1165
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: The new generation of fights Luke, which has been such

1166
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 2: a great series for the last twenty years, built upon

1167
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: the premise of matching young, unbeaten fighters or top rising

1168
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: prospects against equally dangerous and regarded potentially great fighters you know,

1169
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: best versus the best, but early on in their career. Tonight,

1170
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: Luke Live on Showtime nine pm Eastern, six pm Pacific

1171
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: is the start from the Heartland Events Center in Grand Island, Nebraska.

1172
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: It's the twentieth anniversary episode of this great series show Showbox,

1173
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: and this triple header is a decent one here. And

1174
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: the story though, is more about obviously the history here Luke.

1175
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: They've had a fantastic run. We've got some items here

1176
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: to support that if we can go to that. But Luke,

1177
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: have you visited much with the vehicle that is Showtime?

1178
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: Our friends Raoul Marquez, Steve Farhoodberry Tompkins on the call.

1179
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: I love Showbox.

1180
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: They all listen Showboxes like honestly, like maybe one of

1181
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: my favorite things that Showtime does. And I mean that

1182
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: with absolute sincerity. And you can see here look at

1183
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: these look at the names that have come through Showbox.

1184
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we had Ricky Hatton just a second

1185
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: ago Carl Fratch, Anita Danaier.

1186
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll see the list here. It's endless.

1187
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: It's endless, and you get them at a fun time.

1188
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 3: You get them at a lot of times when they're

1189
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: discovering Deontay Wader, when they're discovering their game.

1190
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: You get them when they're a BC. You know as

1191
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: well as I do.

1192
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: I like fighting guys or fighting guys. I like watching

1193
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 3: guys fight. Gary rsel Junior from DC Shots to DC.

1194
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: Get them in, like, you know, when there are ten

1195
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: fights into their career, let's say for the boxing side,

1196
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 3: so somewhere around the five to six mark for m A,

1197
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 3: which would be a rough equivalent. Dude, they're just like

1198
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 3: they're so wide eyed and you can see such promise

1199
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: in them. It's just fun to think about what the

1200
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: future holds, and it's fun to enjoy them in that

1201
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: particular moment. And dude, again, I'm gonna say it one

1202
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: more time. Look at the names. I mean, Diego Corrals,

1203
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 3: fucking shoutouts to the Legend, Rest and Power, Chico Corrales.

1204
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: But it goes on and on and on BC about

1205
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: what Showbox has done as a showcase for MMA is

1206
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: now Clarissa Shields and so many more others out there.

1207
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: I love the Showbox product, and I love that it's

1208
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: not pretentious either.

1209
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: Dude.

1210
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 3: They're going to South Dakota, They're going to Bloxing, Mississippi.

1211
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: They're going to wherever the fuck that they have to

1212
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 3: go to give the next generation of guys or ladies

1213
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,479
Speaker 3: a chance to shine, a chance to get a good

1214
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: and meaningful fight along the way, not just some some

1215
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 3: runover guy that doesn't matter, a real building block to something.

1216
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: And they do it without all the fanfare that comes

1217
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: with Obviously, you know, Showtime Championship Boxing is, you know,

1218
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: the premier product that Showtime puts out. But you know,

1219
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: in many ways, Showbox is the heart and soul of

1220
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: I think Showtime's boxing covers. This is a personal opinion,

1221
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: and I'm I have such respect for Steve Farhood, I

1222
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: have such respect for Barry Tompkins, and I have such

1223
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: respect for everyone's been a part of that. It's it's

1224
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 3: an essential piece of of boxing the last twenty years.

1225
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the late Nick Charles All was a longtime partner

1226
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: with Farhood. You saw pictures of that. The main event

1227
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 2: tonight is Unbeaten Super middleweight prospects when Calvin Henderson takes

1228
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: on Isaiah Steen, and that's you know, like I mentioned

1229
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: the model of unbeaten versus unbeaten. Look, the first fight

1230
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, July two thousand and one was seventeen

1231
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 2: and Oh Martin O'Malley against seventeen and Oh Leonard Doreen.

1232
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: And what was interesting is Dereen won that fight and

1233
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: then when within a year he became world champion. So

1234
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 2: that was seventeen and oh versus seventeen and oh, which

1235
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: was the model. We're seeing that almost reproduced tonight, Luke.

1236
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of great moments here. If we

1237
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: had Steve Farhuden right now, he would tell you the

1238
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: best one was that two thousand and five, say who

1239
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: Powell versus Cornelius Canine Bundridge fight which landed, lasted twenty

1240
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: two seconds, both fighters were unbeaten. Only three punches were landed, Luke.

1241
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: But that fight is most well known because Powell and

1242
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,959
Speaker 2: Bundridge had a double knockdown. They knocked each other down,

1243
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: but the referee missed it. So both fighters just pop

1244
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: right back up and start brawling, and the Rep's just like,

1245
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: all right, keep going keep going, and you know a

1246
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: few seconds later, shortly after Powell would viciously knock out Bundridge.

1247
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: That was a one we we cannot forget. But Luke,

1248
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: that's not my favorite moment in the history of showbox.

1249
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: Do you remember a once highly touted prospect middleweight Antoine Douglas.

1250
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: He was He went in there on showtime against Kursades's

1251
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: and it was an incredible, all time great brawl and

1252
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: he lost. But his mom, Luke, was a firecracker. I

1253
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: want to throw to this great interview between Annette Douglas

1254
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: and the Hall of Famer Steve Farhood and that Douglas.

1255
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely action ma. Just how we rolled him, just

1256
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 6: how we routed him. A champat bird My baby was toe.

1257
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 6: He had never walk off tall a four pair of ball, baby,

1258
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 6: but look at him now, look at him now, that's

1259
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 6: all I bring a champ, that one right here. Look

1260
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 6: at us now that Bell's going home his house.

1261
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: We was just wave flow shot.

1262
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: Yes, Sa, yes, Sal that's the easiest if you ever

1263
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: have to do.

1264
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't question you.

1265
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: Like what you say, I love it. I got yet.

1266
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Luke, all she breeds is champions. How how

1267
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: just beautiful is that moment? I mean, that's fantastic.

1268
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: I don't understand parents that who are that nice to

1269
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 3: their children.

1270
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, look at us now. Wow. Love that ship

1271
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: right there. So uh, do not miss Showbox the twentieth

1272
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,479
Speaker 2: anniversary episode this evening, nine pm Eastern. Good ship right there.

1273
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: Luca's not the it's not the only combat sports that

1274
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: we have on this Friday night, dude. I'm you know,

1275
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 2: it is kind of worth talking about. It's interesting at

1276
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: the very least. BKFC nineteen will go down on pay

1277
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: per view tonight from the Florida State Fairgrounds and his

1278
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 2: Page Van's ant in her first appearance since losing her

1279
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: BKFC debut in February and a competitive decision loss to

1280
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: Brittain Hart, which of course propelled Heart Who's an Effing

1281
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: Feeling to all new levels of minor league stardom. But

1282
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: Luke Pvez is back in a rematch of sorts against

1283
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: former UFCFO Rachel Ostovich. Of course, we saw Page submit

1284
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: Rachel in twenty nineteen. Ostovich will be making her BKFC debut. Luke,

1285
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: they got me, Okay, they snared me. I watched some

1286
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: videos the press conference. I'm into it. I'm into the

1287
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: storylines of this fight, the comaine some of the earlier fights.

1288
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you know, I've been trying to avoid this.

1289
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: Brent Brookhouse, the CBS Sports has been banging on that

1290
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: drum Luke that this is the best form of entertainment

1291
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: out there in combat sports, and I'm biting off a

1292
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: little bit, and it's it's a little more than I

1293
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: can chew. But I haven't gone anywhere, Luke, you care

1294
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: about this at all? Please hop you do.

1295
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, not at all. I tried to

1296
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: just a preparation for the show.

1297
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 3: I watched their last fight and it was Ostovich getting

1298
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: a lot of takedowns. There were some moments where they

1299
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: were exchanging on the feet for a little while, but

1300
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: it was there's a lot of kicks being thrown at

1301
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: range and spinning backfists, and it was just you know

1302
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,959
Speaker 3: what that means for this fight?

1303
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't have any clue, so.

1304
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 2: All right, Well have followed it closely and look, PVZ

1305
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: has changed. She feels like in the fifth round of

1306
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: that fight with Britain Hart Luke, which she did come

1307
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 2: on down the stretch that she was she figured out

1308
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: how to do this. So what she did is she

1309
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: stopped training at ATT where she had been sort of

1310
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: mentoring under Thiago Alvis, who of course former UFC VET

1311
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: and current BKFC fighter, and she moved to Pedro Diaz

1312
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: is Jim in Miami Luna Boxing, and it's taking on

1313
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: a much more boxing approach and she feels that will

1314
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: be the difference. Luke, I feel like this is really

1315
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: good matchmaking because the name value in Ostovich. But I

1316
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: have some severe doubts. Even though Ostovich said she got

1317
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: the better of the feet with PVZ in their UFC fight,

1318
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: I got doubts that, you know, in her first fight,

1319
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: she's gonna come in there and do anything but take

1320
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: punches to the face. So it is pretty good match

1321
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: making that they could give. They could put Page back

1322
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: out there and give her a chance to clean up

1323
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: against a known opponent. But you also have Britta Hart

1324
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: in the Comaine event against Jenny Savage, and there's been

1325
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: a lot of shit talk and all that that it

1326
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: feels like it's just perfect matchmaking to PVZ Britton Hart too, right,

1327
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: My wrong, Luke, that's how you do it.

1328
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,959
Speaker 3: Sorry, my daughter's having a melt down. I'm a little

1329
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 3: trouble concentrating, but yes, I think you're right. They're obviously

1330
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: setting up the winners of the main and Comaine and

1331
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: hopefully PVZ britton Heart.

1332
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: Too to get that done. By the way, didn't britton

1333
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: Hart get married this week?

1334
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: Well, here we go, Luke, let's throw to that. So

1335
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: britton Hart, we tried to play the sound on last

1336
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: week's show and we had an error and I forgot

1337
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: to grab it. But at the original press conference for

1338
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: this card, she went off saying, why am I in

1339
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: the co main event against a nobody in Jenny Savage

1340
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 2: when I beat PVZ and now Pvz's in the main event?

1341
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: Was really smart sort of pro wrestling way of cutting

1342
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: a promo there. But Luke says, then she's doubled down

1343
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: on a few different things, including what you mentioned now

1344
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: becoming the missus Joey belltrand the news was broken on

1345
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: the instagrams of both Joey and britten Hart on Wednesday,

1346
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: And Luke, what's most interesting about this is the the

1347
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: two who just recently got engaged and only been dating

1348
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: a little while, but but Instagram has shown it's been

1349
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: a successful uh you know, partnership, Luke, is that she

1350
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: got They got married at the courthouse Wednesday morning. Can

1351
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: we toss to these photos please? And she was at

1352
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: the press conference like an hour later for the fight

1353
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: just but uh, you know, hey, here it is, Luke.

1354
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: God blessed these two BKFC heroes getting together, Luke. They

1355
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: look really happy.

1356
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: They look insanely happy. Good for them, Good for them.

1357
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 3: I hope they have an opportunity to use any fight

1358
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 3: monies for a nice honeymoon.

1359
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: All right, that's that's that's very nice of you, Luke.

1360
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: Did Britain deserves happiness to Luke? Okay? All right, as

1361
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: we all, And I'm gonna be watching the storylines tonight

1362
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: closely because you know, Heart's facing Savage, who was the

1363
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: one that Britain hard poured water over her head when

1364
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: Savage ran in the ring two fights ago and got

1365
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: in her face.

1366
01:00:58,760 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 6: Luke.

1367
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: And uh, there's another riser on the that kicks off.

1368
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: There's a three women's all three fights on the main

1369
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: Carter women's fights, Luke's. And there's a chick named Taylor

1370
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: Starling who's was in that sort of BKFC potential fight

1371
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: of the Year earlier this year. That was bloody and

1372
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: eyeballs all over the face. She's back against the MMA fighter, Luke,

1373
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: I forgot her name's fud and Victor. You know what

1374
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: I'm talking about? No, No, I don't. All right, you

1375
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: know I'm losing you here, Luke. But her name is

1376
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: Cassie rob So. Taylor Starling also looks like a potential firecracker, Luke,

1377
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: What is with Dave Feldman and BKFC. I feel like

1378
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: they're scouring out Middle America looking for like down on

1379
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: their luck, single moms with tattoos who are scrappy as

1380
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 2: all hell, and there's like a platform then for them

1381
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 2: to be turned into gas station stars hair Luke, this

1382
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: is it's working.

1383
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 3: I actually think he's actually think he's a pretty clever.

1384
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 3: He's had a pretty clever eye for talent, and he's

1385
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 3: got a pretty clever He surprises people. He surprises me.

1386
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: He surprised me in number. I think Dave film is

1387
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 3: smart guy. He's made some mistakes and I don't know

1388
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 3: if I love the product exactly, but I do think

1389
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 3: he's a capable promoter.

1390
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: BC.

1391
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: I think I'll say this, he's a very underrated, clever promoter.

1392
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: Whether or not you like the product or not. That's

1393
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 3: a different thing. But he's you know, who's doing better

1394
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 3: than him in that space. I don't know that anybody is.

1395
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, our producer man each was all over me, Luke

1396
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: that there's also a bare knuckle fight on the same card,

1397
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: pairing some rapper named blue Face against some TikToker who

1398
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: steals people's content. It's not for me, Luke, but you

1399
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: know Dave Feldman going for.

1400
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 3: I've heard blue Faces wraps before, you know which. I

1401
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 3: sound like the oldest person on fucking earth saying it

1402
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: that way.

1403
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: I get that he sucks.

1404
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: He's not good at all, but I guess the kids

1405
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 3: love him, so that's all that matters, Luke.

1406
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,479
Speaker 2: Thomas cutting a promo here against the old blue Face. Wow,

1407
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: all right, I could I can match make that one too, Luke.

1408
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens.

1409
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: I'll have I'll be like Tim Silvey. I'll have diary

1410
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of the fight.

1411
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well all right, all right. By the way, PVZ

1412
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 2: that needs to win bad. She's gonna get it. Watch out.

1413
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: So I don't can you even bet on this shit, Luke?

1414
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 3: You can't bet on it, right, I'm pretty sure is

1415
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: in this fight in Tampa, Florida. I mean, you know,

1416
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: collect fivers in the audience and figure it out.

1417
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: Luke, I continue to live by the model of efficiency

1418
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: on Fridays when BC hosts with the red background No

1419
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: Jay Fridays, and you know, a growing number of people

1420
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: who did wonder what the show could have been like

1421
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: if I had been hosting full time from the beginning.

1422
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: But Luke, we always closed the five segments with the

1423
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: quick hitters. Here to get Luke Thomas's take, Brandon Marino

1424
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: came out, Luken doesn't seem to be all that interested

1425
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: or really wants a Figuredo rematch and is more interested

1426
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: in moving on down the line. Luke, your thoughts and

1427
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: your prediction on the direction that matchmaking goes with the

1428
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: new first stand only Mexican born UFC champion.

1429
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah good, He's completely right. The second fight wasn't close

1430
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 3: really at all, hardly. I mean, I was, you know,

1431
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 3: moderately here or there, but basically that was the Brandon

1432
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: Marino show. Figuredo lost, farre and square. There's zero controversy

1433
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 3: about it. Not not saying it has to go to

1434
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 3: the back of the line, but yeah, time for you

1435
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: to start your pushback up to the title shot by

1436
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 3: beating other guys and time for the champion to fight

1437
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: someone else.

1438
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: Totally agree.

1439
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: Number two ranked Askarov is out there, Luke. Number three

1440
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: is Pantosia for Alex Perez.

1441
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, either ASCARV or Pento just seem like the best

1442
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 3: choices at the moment. But you know, we'll see your boy.

1443
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: KK Frantz from down Under is there, Luke.

1444
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: He's a good fighter as well.

1445
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, all right, indeed, let's keep it going here, Luke,

1446
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: Justin Gaechee not interested in a Michael Chandler fight. I'm

1447
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: very interested to find out who the highlight will come

1448
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: back against. Luke right now as business booming at lightweight.

1449
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on.

1450
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: This, if they don't make a Justin Gaegee versus Michael

1451
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: Chandler fight, can I, you know, repurpose the words of

1452
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 3: promotional malpractice? How do you not? How do you not

1453
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 3: make that fight? It is really my question. And plus

1454
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: both guys are coming off of losses, out of title fights,

1455
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, so they're in they're still in good, very good,

1456
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: but similar kinds of positions. They're both Blatore was like

1457
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: when Michael Chandler was there, he was. I'm not gonna

1458
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 3: say their version of Justin Gai Chee, but you know,

1459
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: when you look down the roster, who's an all action

1460
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 3: guy for Bellatour at the time as Michael Chandler, Well,

1461
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 3: now he's over in UFC, you can do some of

1462
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 3: these crossover fights. Gee, Chee's reformed but still looking for

1463
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 3: a win after what Habib did to him. So holy shit,

1464
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 3: how do you not put that one? And plus they

1465
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 3: have you know, manufactured or otherwise they've got some.

1466
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: Kind of dispute going on.

1467
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 3: So Jesus Christ, make that fight all just In Gage's

1468
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: gonna go what a year without fighting or more?

1469
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: Fucking make that fight?

1470
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't echo that anymore. Luke

1471
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 2: Baum's a frickin' way. Good God give me that. Look.

1472
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: I believe Michael kiesa UFC Walter Way, who's returning relatively soon,

1473
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: I think next week, right, Luke. He says he was

1474
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: potentially offered Kamara Usmann at UFC two sixty one. Have

1475
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: you been following this story? You believe all this?

1476
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 1: I did not see that. What did he say?

1477
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure that out myself. You know, I

1478
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: should have maybe you know, it's possible I should have

1479
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: prepped a little bit more. But at UFC two sixty

1480
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: one tomorrow Usman of course for Jorge Masvidal in the rematch,

1481
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: and it was uh Kiyosa on the what the heck

1482
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: pod talking that you know, he may have been potentially

1483
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: in that, but Luke's in that, are you know, in

1484
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: that negotiation? But Luke, sometimes people are used as leverage

1485
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: and employee like, okay, they're not getting the price they want.

1486
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: Let's say, UFC to either Masvidal or Usman could be like, oh,

1487
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: well we got Kiyosa. He's already accepted it. You know,

1488
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: he's right here, he's ready, you know. So it's interesting, Luke,

1489
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: it seems to be more of that to me than

1490
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: you know, keyesa necessarily deserving it in that spot or

1491
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: anything more than that. Right.

1492
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: I think.

1493
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm a big believer in Kisa's upside, But.

1494
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: There's still a.

1495
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 3: Little more winning to do, still a little more winning

1496
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 3: to do at welterweight before you know, a real deal.

1497
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 3: Time is in order. And so let's see what he's

1498
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: got for us. I guess to fight his next week.

1499
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

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01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: Kisa was saying how his manager called him, Luke and

1501
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: was like, you know, what kind of shape are you in?

1502
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: Can you potentially, you know, turn this around quick? So

1503
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: again it seems like that type of leverage poll right there. Also,

1504
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: Luke Oscar de la Hoya has officially a date, in

1505
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: a venue and a lot more for his boxing match

1506
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: against former MMA star and twenty thirteen's Monster of the

1507
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: Year Vitor Belfort. It'll take place September eleventh at the

1508
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: Staples Center in Los Angeles as a Triller pay per view,

1509
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: with Jim Lampley and Snoop Dogg announced for the announced team,

1510
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: but Luke most importantly to the idea of what this

1511
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: final look like. It's been changed from an exhibition to

1512
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: a sanctioned fight in the state of California. Eight rounds

1513
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: but two minute rounds, Luke, two minute rounds are what

1514
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: we're trying to get rid of in the women's boxing game,

1515
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: and maybe two if you I understand two minut rounds

1516
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: in an exhibition, but if you're trying to be like, no,

1517
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 2: we're tough men, I'm forty eight, but I'm coming back.

1518
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: I want a real fight, and then you're doing two

1519
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: minute rounds. What kind of backyard bullshit.

1520
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: Is that, Luke not my favorite?

1521
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I said the one of the things I

1522
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 3: liked about Jake Paul's up coming boxing about versus Logans

1523
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 3: was that it was a pro contest. The one he

1524
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 3: has with Woody's a pro contest, and that's true, Like

1525
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna prefer pro contests to exhibitions almost universally. However,

1526
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 3: you're right, first of all, you're going into two minute rounds.

1527
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 3: It's like a pro contest, but not the real kind.

1528
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: I mean, the one with the one with Woodley and

1529
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 3: Paul is eight rounds, but it's three minutes each, so

1530
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 3: it's a normal fight for someone's of that experience level.

1531
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 3: Then this case, like the two dudes are old viturs

1532
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 3: doesn't even I mean, he's boxed before, but you know

1533
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:41,919
Speaker 3: he's not a boxer.

1534
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: Dala Hoya is Dale Hoya.

1535
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: You know again, there's there's an audience for this shit,

1536
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 3: but like, it ain't.

1537
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 2: Me, Luke, Dala Hoy has never boxed above one hundred

1538
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: and sixty pounds as a pro. This will be a

1539
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty pound catchway about. So there's a

1540
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: little bit of a potentially taxable cut on belfare at

1541
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 2: this age right to come down.

1542
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: He was.

1543
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 3: He was badly drained, right you see. But wasn't De

1544
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,480
Speaker 3: la Hoya like one fifty against Pacio?

1545
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that was his last fight in two thousand

1546
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: and eight.

1547
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got fucking beaten like a drum in that. Actually,

1548
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: I was.

1549
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: I was. I was on a date with my wife

1550
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 3: at the time and we were like, God, damn, he's

1551
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 3: getting tuned up.

1552
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 2: Oh, it was.

1553
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: It was.

1554
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: It was, you know, being a De la Hoya, you know,

1555
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: super fan in terms of the fighter. That was tough

1556
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: to watch, there's no question about it. Uh. But uh

1557
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: it's interesting. Uh, I forgot the exact direction I was

1558
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: going there on the counter, but oh, going the week

1559
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: before Canelo, So it's a it's an Oscar making sure

1560
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: he's not competing against Canelo, but at the same time

1561
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: is still putting in the in the quotes and in

1562
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 2: the press release that this is Mexican Independence Day weekend,

1563
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 2: even though it's really the following weekend when Canelo's fighting

1564
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 2: like he does every year. But uh, it's it's interesting,

1565
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 2: it's dumb. It's I think the weight will sue Oscar. Fine,

1566
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm just interesting. I'm just a little nervous about belfour

1567
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 2: coming down the five pounds. Luke at this age is

1568
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: probably gonna be sloppy and gross, but I'll probably be

1569
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 2: into it when it actually happens. Luke, I'm sorry. Sometimes

1570
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 2: you have to be honest with yourself. You know. I'm

1571
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 2: keeping you know, the disgusting food out of my liver

1572
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: area these days, but my interest in disgusting fights, So

1573
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 2: it really it's an appetite that has a different operator

1574
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: at the wheel. I don't control that.

1575
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 3: Yes, you are an addict to all things terrible for you.

1576
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 3: I know that pain pretty similarly myself. But you know,

1577
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure I'll pay attention because it's my job to

1578
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 3: pay attention, But otherwise, I it's just boring to me.

1579
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: The grossest part about it, though, is that the advertising

1580
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 2: the press releases the banner for this fight is calling

1581
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 2: it the biggest fight in combat sports history.

1582
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah about that.

1583
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: Well, there's that, Luke, Luke. I know who might be

1584
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 2: the biggest fan and Morning Co history, and that is

1585
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: our boy and yours, Damien from Stockton, who we revealed

1586
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 2: during Wednesday's fan submissions actually went out and got a

1587
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: Morning Combat tattoo of our sun and fist logo on

1588
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:17,959
Speaker 2: the inside of his left bicep. Luke. I was so touched, scared,

1589
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 2: enamored by this touching tribute and just next level dedication

1590
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: to our brand that I did want to chat with

1591
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 2: the bloke and it turned into a lengthy conversation and

1592
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: a fun one that will air in full on the

1593
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: Morning Combat YouTube channel later today. But here's a little

1594
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 2: snippet of my chat with super fan Damien the Pepsi challenge.

1595
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 2: He poured it all over himself there. Look, we are

1596
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: humbled by your gesture. There are gonna be a lot

1597
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: of people though, who maybe didn't get a chance to

1598
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: meet you in Vegas. They're just going to go, Wow,

1599
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 2: this Damien guy sounds like a great candidate for you know,

1600
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: full time in a state penitentiary. Can you confirm or

1601
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: deny your level of sanity at the moment?

1602
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 5: Uh b you see, I'm a sweetheart, Okay. I know

1603
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 5: some of my tattoos are a little bit evil, but

1604
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 5: when it comes to tattoos, I like tattoos that are dark.

1605
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 3: Dark.

1606
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 5: To me, dark tattoos are wicked. Wicked is cool. I

1607
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 5: think tattoos should be cool, you know. So that's kind

1608
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 5: of like my theme. Not all my tattoos are like that.

1609
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 5: Even the Pope kissing the devil baby has a meeting

1610
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 5: behind it. But I know my tattoos to show one

1611
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 5: side of me though. But I'm more of like a

1612
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 5: Brandon Moreno, kind of like a kid, you know, like

1613
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 5: innocent person. I just happen to like dark tattoos though.

1614
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 5: But uh, I'm not I'm saying I'm not crazy. Uh,

1615
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 5: I'm just a donk, Luke.

1616
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of you know, putting out the

1617
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: milk to the stray cats around the corner of the.

1618
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: Uh, your favorite thing.

1619
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 2: But uh, but you know BC has been always, you know,

1620
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 2: always said he penetrates the fans. He gets you know,

1621
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: he gets on the inside. And and this was a

1622
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: little bit of that. You know, if you should end up,

1623
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: if you should wake up and the bathtub of an

1624
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 2: abandoned building somewhere in the Midwest one morning, Luke, I

1625
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: will take probably a little bit of responsibility for that, Luke.

1626
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 2: One time I had a substitute teacher in high school

1627
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 2: and people were clowning him and asking him where he lived. Luke,

1628
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: and I and I looked up the address and set

1629
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: it out in front of the class, Luke thinking I

1630
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: was doing something like edgy and cool, and the guy

1631
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: took me out to the side afterwards and he was like,

1632
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: if those cycle paths end up going anywhere near my house,

1633
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 2: I'm holding you legally responsible for this. I just want

1634
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 2: you to know now. I was just like, oh my god,

1635
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: so look, this may be me, you know, doing this

1636
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: to you.

1637
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 1: Luke.

1638
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I love our fans. Okay, I'm I'm

1639
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 2: not gonna stop loving on them. You know you can't

1640
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: make me.

1641
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not opposed to getting an MK tattoo, but

1642
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 3: we have to hit a certain level of heights for

1643
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 3: me to do that.

1644
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right? He what what d me and

1645
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: wanted Luke was to get that tattooed that he got

1646
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 2: done while he was in Vegas, and wanted you and

1647
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: I to get m K tattoos as well. I don't

1648
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 2: know if they're matching. I don't know if you know

1649
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: he was gonna give us a roofie afterwards, but that

1650
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: was his goal.

1651
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: Luke.

1652
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: Would you have been willing to get like a K

1653
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 2: and I get the M and when we put our

1654
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: specific body part together, it makes MK.

1655
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 3: That's what.

1656
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that, But that's an interesting idea.

1657
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little well, it's a little uh, there's

1658
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: a lot of intention and intentionality of potential man love

1659
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 2: in that, Luke, which is fine, right, you know, Luke,

1660
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: I love you, but it's it's fine, but it is uh,

1661
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:39,440
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it's fine. It's awkward, but it's fine. Yeah,

1662
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: all right, Luke, that's what I got for that. But

1663
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 2: speaking of our people, I'm willing to service you. Are

1664
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: you willing to service us back? I'll show you mine

1665
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: if you show me yours. And what we need from

1666
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:53,560
Speaker 2: you is uh. We're finalists in the category of sports

1667
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: for the People's Choice Podcaster Towards. In fact, Luke, I

1668
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: believe we're a finalist in three categories. People are telling

1669
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 2: me that you can vote for us in three categories.

1670
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: We appreciate all you do in support of us, and

1671
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 2: you know, in addition to liking and subscribing, this is

1672
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: actually probably the best way you can support us right now.

1673
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 2: It's not the world to Luke and I, but it

1674
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: is the world to those who support us. And if

1675
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: you want to nominate us, go to podcast Towards dot com,

1676
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: slash app slash sign up, and I don't know what

1677
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: you have to do from there, all right, all right,

1678
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: maybe sign up for a loan for tw hundred and

1679
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 2: fifty dollars. I don't know, all right, maybe provide your

1680
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: own samples something. But if you do that for us,

1681
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: we'd appreciate that, Thank you very much. Am I wrong, Luke? No?

1682
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 3: I think you're right. People who make this show possible

1683
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 3: would be very happy if we won.

1684
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: This, So to please them, please do this.

1685
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. There you go, a lot of pleasing involved. I'm

1686
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: not wrong on that, but Luke, sometimes I am wrong

1687
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 2: when I speak into a microphone upwards of twelve hours

1688
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: a week and really put the future of our jobs

1689
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 2: in full on threat. But luckily, Luke, we have a

1690
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: band of brothers and a few sisters who like to

1691
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 2: call us out on what we missed. Each week. They

1692
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: go to Morning Combat at gmail dot com as the

1693
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: preferred way to reach us with fansubmissions and corrections for

1694
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 2: a Friday segment in which, if you're gonna come, you

1695
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 2: better come on with a timestamp and some boldness to

1696
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 2: tell us that we were dead wrong. All right, no

1697
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 2: rap lyrics. We open with owen he says, morning chaps,

1698
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: let me pour some honey into your ears before I

1699
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 2: shove the knife in. You guys are fantastic the live

1700
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 2: show with such a great and well deserved moment. It

1701
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 2: had everything insight, no cells, pending bowel infections and the

1702
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: freaking r keep the juice flowing, my friends. Having said

1703
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 2: that Luke is dead wrong, at the start of nearly

1704
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 2: every show, he refers to BC as his quote CBS

1705
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 2: Sports Brethren. Now, it so happens that brethren is plural

1706
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 2: and BC is very much a singular figure, although it's

1707
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: a few personalities in play, Luke, I'll tell you that much,

1708
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: though I agree that he certainly wears many different hats

1709
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: gas station grill survivor, loving husband, misunderstood comedian, connoisseur of

1710
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,480
Speaker 2: virtual elderly abuse, et cetera. So despite BC's many personalities,

1711
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: he is your brother and instead of your brethren. So

1712
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 2: straddle that bitch. Much love from the Netherlands and may

1713
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 2: all your future polish UFC champions answer your phone calls. Hey, Luke,

1714
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: that's well done from Owen right here.

1715
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, accept that it is not actually correct. That

1716
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 3: comes from being in the same part of a religious

1717
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 3: order or fraternal group, which we are hence CBS Sports.

1718
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 3: So actually he's fucking dead wrong. No, it's not correct.

1719
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 3: Even a little bit sorry doesn't doesn't mean it doesn't

1720
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 3: mean brother or whatever.

1721
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: The fuck. No, we do it.

1722
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 2: We are brothers in Christ.

1723
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: Luke, You and I okay, all right, you might be

1724
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1725
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: There's still time. There's still time, Luke. Okay, So Luke,

1726
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 2: let's keep the dead wrongs rolling here. Number two is

1727
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: from Chris with a K. Hi. Guys just want to

1728
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 2: point out. During Friday's episode one eighty at the one

1729
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: hour and three minute mark, Brian says Denise Keelholtz was

1730
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 2: kickboxing world champion with both Bellator and Glory, but keel

1731
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: Holtz has never actually kickboxed in Glory. On another small

1732
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 2: kickboxing note for Brian, BC called Nikki Niki Nikki Holtzkin

1733
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: a Glory kickboxer during episode one seventy three at the

1734
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 2: two hour mark, but he hasn't fought in Glory since

1735
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: December twenty seventeen. He's currently with one championship where he

1736
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: fought his most five recent bouts. Kind regards, I'll take

1737
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 2: the second l I really haven't been following holtzkin all

1738
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 2: that closely since he had that big boxing close up

1739
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: when he was the late replacement there.

1740
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 3: But Luke is good true?

1741
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: Is that true that Cole Keel Holtz has never kickboxed

1742
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 2: with Glory?

1743
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: And I made that. I think that, I think that

1744
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: I think they're right.

1745
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 2: Right. I'll take the l I'll take that. Thank you,

1746
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris with okay, I appreciate that. Uh. Goran

1747
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: slides in and says, BC, what the hell you were

1748
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 2: dead wrong during dead wrong last week when you said

1749
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: David well struck out seventeen during the nineteen ninety seven

1750
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 2: Yankees versus Oakland A's game, He in fact struck out sixteen,

1751
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: a career high. However, his greatest accomplishment was throwing a

1752
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 2: perfect game while drunk baseball in the nineties. Freaking hilarious.

1753
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, Goran, Goran Ivanistovich. I'll take that, el sir.

1754
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: I was at that game. I was heavily intoxicated on

1755
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 2: warm peach tree, and I was wearing a Wallfaller T shirt.

1756
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: And David Wells did strike out sixteen, a fantastic performance.

1757
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: So look, this was pre nine to eleven, when you

1758
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: could sit in the bleachers and expect full on seven

1759
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: deadly sins to break out in front of you. Look,

1760
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 2: it was great, you know.

1761
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 3: Bro, do you remember back in the day, like before

1762
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 3: nine to eleven, when you would get off a plane

1763
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 3: and like the people you were meeting could meet you

1764
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: at your gate.

1765
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, baby, oh yeah.

1766
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 3: People don't understand how good it used to to be.

1767
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 3: And then some asshole fucking puts bombs and his shoes

1768
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 3: and now we all got to undress for TSA.

1769
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: It sucks, Luke.

1770
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 2: When I was in seventh grade, I went to the

1771
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 2: airport at JFK to pick up my uncle who was

1772
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: flying in, and the New York Jets football team had

1773
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: just walked through, you know, out of the plane into

1774
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 2: the terminal. So I came running and I got like

1775
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: forty autographs. Bang bang bang went after another, Luke. It

1776
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: was an incredible moment in my young sports fandom. Even

1777
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: though the Jets were awful during that Freedom McNeil.

1778
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 3: I was gonna say how many New Yorkers were pelting

1779
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 3: them with batteries as they walked it.

1780
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 2: That was a dark, dark time in their competitiveness. But

1781
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: you know, you can't have those moments anymore, Luke, Okay,

1782
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: I mean you can't even I used to say, you

1783
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 2: can't even sneak in erection into Yankee Stadium Post nine

1784
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 2: to eleven. Luke. You know, I mean it's like, you know,

1785
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: you remember when in two thousand at the National Championship Series,

1786
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: in Game six, the same night Mike Hampton produced a

1787
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 2: three hit shutout to close out the Cardinals. I did

1788
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: set an nlc RES record by getting six cans of

1789
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 2: bud heavy into that game in my pants, Luke. So

1790
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 2: you know it used to be a regular ordeal.

1791
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1792
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 3: I used to tape flasks to my inside of my knee,

1793
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 3: like the like the top of the right where.

1794
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: The knee meets the the.

1795
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 3: On the inside of the knee, essentially, I would tape

1796
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,600
Speaker 3: flasks there and then we're like baggy jeans and we

1797
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 3: were just getting lit off that.

1798
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love that. Love it. People used to

1799
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 2: bring on the cross sticks. I mean, you know, you could,

1800
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 2: you could do anything back then, Luke. All right, let's

1801
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 2: keep the dead wrongs rowing. Wow, a lot of people

1802
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 2: getting in on here. Michael Scott, uh Scott, A Will

1803
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: Jesse and Greg they say another dead wrong for your boy, Luke.

1804
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: On the same Monday Show. When referring to Islam Mahachev's

1805
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: lone loss, Luke said it was a head kick KO

1806
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 2: from Adriano Martinz. I knew it was wrong, but went

1807
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: back to watch the fight to be sure, and Islam

1808
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 2: lost by a knockout punch. I've got to say in

1809
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: regards to his profession, Luke has been on a Tyrone

1810
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: Woodley Jeremy Stevens ask run as of late get your

1811
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: shit together player. Yeah yeah, bro Luke, take that shit,

1812
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: eat that shit, you know, sit on that el straddle

1813
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 2: at Luke. You know what I'm saying, Just spend a

1814
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: few times.

1815
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 3: I think it was Seroni who finished off Audrey on

1816
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 3: a Martinez with the head k ko.

1817
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: I think that's what I got confused.

1818
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we all make mistakes, luk On. I make

1819
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 2: them on camera on a regular basis, Okay, I just

1820
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 2: make them kind of artsy, right if I just you know,

1821
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 2: like just you know, running with it, right, Luke? All right,

1822
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 2: Michael and Big Mike, those are separate. Mike slid in here.

1823
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: On Monday Morning Show, Luke said that Misha Tate won

1824
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 2: by third round submission, when in fact she won by

1825
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: a TKO over. What's her name? Uh, Marian Reno her

1826
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: first in the UFC. You get paid to do this.

1827
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: Bro.

1828
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,799
Speaker 2: If my memory and eyesight get as bad as Luke's

1829
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: as in old age made the Lord smile, smite me

1830
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 2: down at the current age of twenty nine. Damn Luke there, Bro,

1831
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 2: I mean they are shooting their shot today, Luke. Okay,

1832
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 2: if you're to come during a j dead wrong, come on, bro, come.

1833
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: On all right, I'll take that l Damn wow.

1834
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: Yes, this is this is.

1835
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 3: Why, this is why we have this segment.

1836
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: Dude.

1837
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta, you gotta face up to your errors.

1838
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 3: That's how we keep our relationship with the audience honest.

1839
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 3: So when you make a mistake, you just gotta eat it.

1840
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: I'll eat it.

1841
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 2: Uh. Austin from New Jersey is here. He calls himself

1842
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 2: a forever fan. He says to the best duo in

1843
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: the business. I never wanted to send one of these.

1844
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 2: But on Monday, July nineteenth, in the first clip of

1845
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: have You Seen This Shit, the segment was Daniel Rodriguez's

1846
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: annihilation of mister Parsons. Brian said it happened in the

1847
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 2: third round, which was wrong. It happened in the first

1848
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 2: round with one fourteen left in the round, right it did?

1849
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 2: Time stamp one thirty three and nineteen seconds. This, of course,

1850
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 2: means absolutely nothing because it's MK All, day, f and day.

1851
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your hard work. I'll take

1852
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: that l A lot of times. Have you seen this shit?

1853
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 2: I got six seven things to throw to trying to

1854
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: remember what they were in you know what I'm saying.

1855
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: Very well done, Austin. That was very cordial right there.

1856
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's see if Randall will be the same. So,

1857
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 2: during a segment today Wednesday, July twenty, first BC referred

1858
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 2: to Willy D of the Ghetto Boys as quote Willie

1859
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 2: G the Gangster. I love as a proud Hustonian and

1860
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: now a former donk just kidding. I love the show.

1861
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 2: I am a paull that someone who claims to love

1862
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: the nineties so much messed that up. Shame shame, shame.

1863
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,759
Speaker 2: Much love from Houston and my MK tattoo is coming soon.

1864
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: Hashtag vax life. It's Randall, Yes, Luke, Wow, A lot

1865
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: going on right there. I will accept that. Al Yes,

1866
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 2: it was Willy D the Gangster of Love, not Willy G.

1867
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: But damn Luke, did I love the ghetto boys during

1868
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 2: that era? Bushwick Bill was It was everything to me, Luke,

1869
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: that little bastard, he was everything to me.

1870
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 3: Listen, Bushwick Bill was a big deal back in a

1871
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 3: certain time and Scarface. Scarface has put out records long

1872
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 3: past legetto boys life, so God bless them all. Houston's

1873
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 3: great place, love Houston.

1874
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, hey are preducer? I has two more

1875
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: for us, and this is under the heading of two

1876
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 2: non dead wrongs, but of note, so this one's from

1877
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: Malcolm Goodday Boys. Not strictly a dead wrong, but a

1878
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: very bad miss. Nonetheless, the two orca going finger tip

1879
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: to tip on the beach during last week's have You

1880
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: or this week's have You Seen this shit was none

1881
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 2: other than Jack Black and Kyle Gas from the Mighty

1882
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 2: Tenacious D. Disappointed that you two didn't immediately recognize those

1883
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: two legends, Luke, I got so many tweets and dms

1884
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: about this. I didn't. I've never seen Kyle Gas look

1885
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 2: that old, so it didn't click that that was TENACIOUSD

1886
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: right there?

1887
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: Lyke, Yeah, I don't care.

1888
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, take that, Malcolm, get fucked Malcolm. Thank you. Also, Rowell.

1889
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: That's r O E. L. How would you pronounce that

1890
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Luke whole hole in Brazil?

1891
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know. Hell Hell.

1892
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: Call him Courtney Love Luke. During the Cory Sanhegan TJ

1893
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 2: Still a Shaw storyline segment on Wednesday, you said the

1894
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 2: winners should get Al Dough and Peter Yan fight. It's

1895
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: not a big dead wrong, but I want to get

1896
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: on the show. I hope this one is deserving. His

1897
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 2: nickname is al Joe Love the show, Luke. You may

1898
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 2: have said Jose Aldo's last n Yes.

1899
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: That probably, Yeah, I probably did that. Okay, fine, I'll

1900
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: take that out.

1901
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we'll take it. Hey, very cordial this week. Look,

1902
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,799
Speaker 2: you know, you know, look, there's there's some like bosses

1903
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 2: throughout history that like they won't respect you unless you

1904
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 2: like threaten to fight them one time and get in

1905
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: their face, right and stand up to their abuse.

1906
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: Right.

1907
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: We're like that with our listeners too. I mean they

1908
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 2: brought it, we respect that. Okay, you're part of the team.

1909
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 3: Come on in, and it doesn't mean it doesn't mean

1910
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 3: we respect every time that they bring it to us

1911
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 3: because they have to come correct as well. But the

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01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 3: reality is we get shit wrong and they got to

1913
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Speaker 3: call us on it. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Look everything you do, Luke, you got to come original.

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Speaker 1: Right Omaha, Styley, you know who wouldn't want to do that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean goodness, who cares about the color

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01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: of her uh uh yeah? All right, enough enough Amber

1918
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: jokes there. Look all right, that is actually the show

1919
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Speaker 2: for the week.

1920
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Speaker 3: No, don't we have tip steps for that is true.

1921
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Speaker 2: We do touch tips at the end like Tani Shoust

1922
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 2: So sorry, sorry about that, manyture. I'm back on the

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01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: back on the line here, I'll Luke tip to tip time.

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01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 2: I'll tip off with this, Luke ho Lee. Oh yeah, tip,

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Speaker 2: touch tip. This is where we give our weekly recommendations,

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Speaker 2: and Luke, this week I'm gonna recommend with the fullest

1927
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 2: stamp of approval, the new Hulu docu series called McCartney

1928
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 2: three two one. It's a six episode mini doc here

1929
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 2: that features fas very famous record producer Rick Rubin of

1930
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 2: course of you know Beastie Boys, Tom Petty, Red Hot

1931
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 2: Chili Pepper's fame and beyond, sitting down with Paul McCartney

1932
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Speaker 2: in a in a studio. There's instruments around, they've got

1933
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: the you know engineering soundboard out and essentially going through

1934
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 2: the biggest Beatles and Paul solo songs throughout history and

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01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 2: just breaking them down behind the inspiration on how it

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01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: was written. And I think even more in terms of

1937
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 2: revelation is the fact that you know Paul McCartney, who's

1938
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: always been one of the most underrated bassis in history.

1939
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 2: You realize why in this freaking documentary because they're stripping

1940
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 2: down the songs and playing you know, just the specific instruments. Luke,

1941
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 2: I could not have been more enthralled. This is the

1942
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,799
Speaker 2: kind of catnip that I get down with. This was incredible.

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01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: I'm already a big Rick Rubin fan. Loved the uh

1944
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 2: actually the Shangri La documentary series on the Showtime app

1945
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 2: that you can watch that sort of just focuses on

1946
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 2: Rick Rubin's life today as a producer. But Luke, have

1947
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: you heard about this? Did you know about this? Did

1948
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: you watch this? You're gonna love this?

1949
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Speaker 3: No, I can't say that I have I do have Hulu,

1950
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Speaker 3: I don't, I will candidly admit. B See, I'm not

1951
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 3: great about using Hulu. And then people like you come

1952
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 3: around like I have you seen this?

1953
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: This?

1954
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 3: This, this, this and every time I go and follow

1955
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 3: up with someone's recommendation on Hulu, it almost always hits.

1956
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm afraid to say I've not heard of it,

1957
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 3: but I will also say that intrigued, super intrigued.

1958
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it. Look, everyone loves the Beatles right

1959
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 2: to some degree, obviously, but it's a it's like next

1960
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 2: level shit. It's showing you like you like you know,

1961
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: I listen to Jimmy, but do I hear Jimmy?

1962
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: Luke?

1963
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 2: It shows it takes you to that next level if

1964
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 2: you're not already there in terms of understanding why the

1965
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: songs were so special in the different instrumentation. And that's

1966
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 2: like right where I'm at right now, Luke. Okay, this

1967
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 2: Vinyl exploration, this this sort of you know, this is

1968
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 2: my life. You know what I mean, Luke, I can't stop. Okay,

1969
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 2: I love it all right. I got bronstetting my DMS

1970
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 2: every second. Okay, this is the life I've chose, Luke,

1971
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,919
Speaker 2: And this, this is this is the drug to continue

1972
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 2: down that road. So anyone wants to come with me,

1973
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 2: let's do it. Luke.

1974
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 3: Your tip for the week, My tip for the week,

1975
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 3: very simple. I put it up on Instagram yesterday. Patrick

1976
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 3: Wyman has a new book out. It's called if you

1977
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 3: can see it here. It's called The Verge Reformation Renaissance

1978
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 3: in forty years that shook the world.

1979
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 2: Now.

1980
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: Who is Patrick Wyman?

1981
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 2: Well?

1982
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 3: Patrick Wyman for a long time was co host of

1983
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 3: Heavy Hands podcast, although he moved along. He briefly worked

1984
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 3: at The Washington Post. I think he had some he

1985
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,679
Speaker 3: worked at Shirt Dog. He has written for dead Spin

1986
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 3: and some other places. He was all involved in MMA

1987
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 3: media for a time, but he also had a PhD

1988
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 3: from the University of Southern California. Wasn't going to go

1989
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 3: into academia strictly, like, he wasn't going to be a professor,

1990
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 3: and so you're just sitting on this PhD, Like what

1991
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 3: was he going to do about it? And so he

1992
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 3: started a couple podcasts. Fall of Rome I think was

1993
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 3: the one first, and then Tides of History is the

1994
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 3: one he currently is still doing. And they were massive successes.

1995
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 3: I've seen I've seen people on my timeline retweet the

1996
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 3: guy who are you know, big in the political world,

1997
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 3: or even just the guy who played Oloff in uh Frozen,

1998
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 3: Josh Gadd I think is his name, even he was

1999
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 3: or tweeting about Patrick Wyman the other day, because you know, listen,

2000
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 3: academia is hard to get a job in. It's hard

2001
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 3: to succeed, and even if you're enormously talented, it's just

2002
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 3: a bit of a fucked up field. But the guy

2003
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 3: obviously bright, and he obviously knows what he's talking about,

2004
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 3: and he's taking those creative pursuits and he's made history

2005
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 3: I think accessible in at least to cover the ways

2006
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 3: in which he covers it to a lot of different

2007
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 3: people who had never.

2008
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: Had it before.

2009
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 3: I mean, how many times growing up did you have

2010
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 3: a history class that was just fucking boring and awful.

2011
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 3: I never feel that way when I'm listening to Patrick.

2012
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 3: I never feel that way when I read him.

2013
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: Now.

2014
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 3: I just got this book in the mail yesterday, so

2015
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 3: I've obviously not read it. But you can look at

2016
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 3: the reviews here one more time. You can look at

2017
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 3: the reviews there there there. I mean, they couldn't be better.

2018
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 3: Everyone is raving about it. It's already an Amazon bestseller,

2019
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 3: even though it just came out about a week ago

2020
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,799
Speaker 3: or not even that. And uh, it's a towering triumph

2021
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 3: to see somebody to go who started in Mma really

2022
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 3: and then go and you know, leave the sport. Sometimes

2023
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 3: they just disappear, and then sometimes, like Patrick Wyman, they

2024
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 3: just do a lot better. And uh, it's great. It's

2025
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 3: absolutely great to see him succeed this way. This is

2026
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 3: out now in bookstores everywhere. It's on Amazon again. The

2027
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 3: Verge Reformation renaissance in forty years that shook the world

2028
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 3: from fourteen ninety to fifteen thirty. Apparently this is how

2029
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 3: the West was essentially reborn Patrick Wyman. Congrats to Patrick.

2030
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 3: Great to see him succeed. And I'll be sure to

2031
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 3: read this. You should go read it too.

2032
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 2: I hope with my factory town education that I would

2033
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: have the focus to stay with us, Luke. It sounds intriguing,

2034
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering.

2035
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this much. He's the history teacher you

2036
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 3: always wish you had, You know what I mean? Well,

2037
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 3: I always wish you had someone who could make it digestible.

2038
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 2: For you in your most honest moments, your most steepest,

2039
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 2: darkest self relevatory moments. Luke, do you hope that even

2040
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 2: now you could have a Whyman type second act in

2041
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 2: the American life to go from this worthless you know,

2042
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: this cage fighting bullshit to like legitimate works of art

2043
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:54,839
Speaker 2: that you know in literacy that may finally get Robert

2044
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 2: Thomas to show some class, chose some heart. You know,

2045
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 2: if I stepped over the line, Luke, you need to

2046
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 2: put me back there. Okay, But I'm fighting for you

2047
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 2: in this, all right.

2048
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't think that's in the cards

2049
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 3: for my life.

2050
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: So all right, we'll just keep doing this.

2051
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 2: Show about Dix and Ship. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. You know,

2052
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 2: we'll just kidd We'll just people seem to like it.

2053
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: They tell you know, I don't see Patrick Wyman getting

2054
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 2: his book tattooed on anybody right now. Okay, you know

2055
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 2: like that. That's that's where that's where I.

2056
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 3: Separate that, you know what fun Patrick Wyman, He don't

2057
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 3: know shit anyway.

2058
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 1: Okay, all about you.

2059
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 2: Mentioned Josh Gadd, the Olaf guy, the voice actor actor

2060
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,799
Speaker 2: or whatever, uh Luke kid? Did you follow during the pandemic?

2061
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 2: He had that I forgot what was called. But he

2062
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 2: had that web series where he would bring on the

2063
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 2: entire cast of a famous like eighties or nineties movie

2064
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 2: and and just kind of relive the moments with them.

2065
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 3: No, but I do have screaming diarrhea, So if you

2066
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:47,759
Speaker 3: could wrap this up, that'd be sweeting.

2067
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that that is how we end most shows,

2068
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 2: uh uh, you know, abruptly leaving the fans wanting more

2069
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: as Luke is crowning like the King of England at

2070
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 2: the moment. Okay, for our great staff here at showtime,

2071
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 2: CB Malka Gaff, Pierre Minie, Sally, Al Wendling, Mikey, I

2072
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 2: love everyone, okay, Coach Matt Snyder, I love them all.

2073
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,920
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2077
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Speaker 2: a end option if you don't like it. And also,

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Speaker 2: please buy our merch Morningcombat dot Store guys. It's just

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Speaker 2: prove to represent us. Vote for us at that sticking

2081
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Speaker 2: podcast thing. If you care, continue to spread the word. Okay,

2082
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 2: you can be you can be our workers out there,

2083
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 2: all right. You can be our frontline soldiers in this

2084
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 2: great war of UFSA versus versus the versus Canada versus everybody. Okay,

2085
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 2: we're coming all right, and if you're gonna come, then

2086
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Speaker 2: come on right along with us at these addresses here

2087
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 2: shout out to Damien. Check out my chat with him

2088
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 2: that'll be later today and YouTube along with Freddie Roach.

2089
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 2: You can check out Aspen Lad all that great stuff.

2090
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 2: Luke's live chat TJ Dillashaw. It's the best of going

2091
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 2: for Luke Thomas. Luke, do you have any final words?

2092
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: All right?

2093
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 2: That's great for Luke Thomas. My name is Brian Campbell,

2094
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 2: remembering along with you what it feels like to be

2095
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 2: young and free. Okay, who live your life? All right?

2096
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 2: That that that beat, that drum in your heart, is

2097
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 2: that a passion? Is it a hobby? Or is that

2098
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 2: where you're going in your life? Okay? Because it's not

2099
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,759
Speaker 2: going away. It's knocking on that door every single day, okay,

2100
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 2: So follow your heart, take that big take that step

2101
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 2: forward today, all right, go in the direction of your dreams.

2102
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 2: Go swiftly. Come on, bro okay, come on already. Look

2103
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 2: where I am today, sweaty and in my basement, turning

2104
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: forty three in two days. Thank you everybody. Luke Thomas

2105
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,520
Speaker 2: is on the throne and I'm the King of Connecticut

2106
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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, and we were MK we out yes,