1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: On today's edition of the Game Day Live preview podcast, 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: we're talking Monday Night football, baby, and we're going to 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: talk about all the information we've recrued this entire week 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: about the Chiefs, about Patrick Mahomes, and we're gonna tell 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: you how we think Washington can get that dub on 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Monday Night. It all starts right now. 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: Welcome the Game Day Live Preview Podcast. I'm Jess, a 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: guy Jason, and I'm here with Logan Paulson, former NFL 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: tight end for ten years, was here with Washington for 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: five of those ten years, and one of the smartest 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: football guys I know, maybe the smartest football guy that 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: I personally know. And I know London Fletcher, I know 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: Fred Smoon, I know Santana Moss. You're right up there, buddy. 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Thanks man. I appreciate that you're always very nice to 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: be with this intro. 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: We're also great friends, and I want people to know 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: that we're really, really good friends. We once played on 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: a competitive recreational team together. Yes, you were like, hey, 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: come out, we need you on TB. Yeah yeah, and 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: like I bought out. I'm not gonna lie, but like 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: you also look like an ex NFL athlete so you're 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: the best player easily on the field. 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: And sometimes experience a game somehow public experience. Those guys 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: are really good at throwing frisbees. 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, yeah, I am terrible at throwing frisbees, 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: but you are pretty good at almost all things athletic. 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: To be honest, you know, I want to bring this 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: up real quick, and then we'll get into the preview 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: of Kansas City, because this conversation I have with my 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: friends and family all the time is like we will 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: talk about athletes as like me, as a normy, I 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: will talk about athletes in a way that is like 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: I would say, is disrespectful sometimes and just be like, ah, 34 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: he's not he's not great, right, Like I'll just say 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: that across the board. I'm not talking about NFL. I'll 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: just say that, Like I'm a big baseball guy. I'll 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: be like this guy and it's like, you know what, 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: that's probably Let let's say the worst player on my 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: favorite baseball team is probably the best player that like 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: his hometown has ever seen. 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: They probably have like a parade for him. Like there's 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys like like there were on the 43 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: practice squad that had like their Jersey. We retired at 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: their high school or whatever. 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: And it's a good reminder because you're retired from the 46 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: NFL and just going out and like playing a sport 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: with you and being like, holy. 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: I told you. I told you my flag football story, right, 49 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: I told you the story. I'm sure, let's tell it again. Yeah. 50 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: So I was my rookie year. Here's my second year 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: in the league, and my roommate was Chris Cooley's cousin, 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: and like he was like in a flag football league. 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: He's like, you should come out and play with us, 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know, and eventually asked 55 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: me enough and I was like, okay, let's do it. 56 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: And so I went out there and, like you know, 57 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: was one hand in catching the football and rotting people 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: up and getting sacks and doing kickoffs and all this stuff. 59 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: And this guy came up to me afterwards, he's like, 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: you're literally the best football player I've ever seen. And 61 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: it's crazy to me because I watched you on Sunday 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, that guy's trash, but person like, 63 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: it's a different it's a different deal. Big You logan 64 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: about six y five, about two hundred and seventy pounds. 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just walk in and you're the biggest stood around. 66 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: And like on TV when everybody looks that way, this 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: is true for me with basketball. 68 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, basketball is wild, like because they're. 69 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: All everybody's big and they're all running around on the 70 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: court and like you don't realize your size unless you're 71 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: actually there and like see him, like I saw. I 72 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: went to see a Lakers and Bucks game, so I 73 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: saw Giannie and Lebron and I, oh, my goodness. 74 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: The big dudes go to UCLA and they used to 75 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: all they used to complay at. They called it the 76 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: B Gym in Westwood, right, and it was like they 77 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: kind of close it off and all the nbas would 78 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: come in and you'd be walking to class and you'd 79 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: walk by, like Kevin Garnett and he's a he's beating 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: pulled thin but he's like a full foot almost taller 81 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: than I was. And I was like, these guys are 82 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: crazy tall and long and rangy and it's not just that, 83 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: it's how they move. 84 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, which is great. Uh So that's actually 85 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: a good segue, yep, because let's talk about the Commanders 86 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 2: playing the Kansas City Chiefs tomorrow on Monday Night, yeap 87 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: and Logan. The reason it's a good segue is because 88 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: you know what, I there are ballplayers on this Washington team. 89 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: You play the you play the games, right, Why do 90 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: you play the games? Because on paper doesn't matter? Patrick 91 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: Mahomes fantastic record on Monday night. Fantastic record on Monday 92 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: night at home, which we're going in the arrowhead. He's 93 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: five and one on Monday night at home in a 94 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: regular season. But that's paper, man. You don't put the 95 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: paper down. This is why people watch the games, why 96 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: they tune in. We're underdogs, but is there a way 97 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 2: to win this game? Logan? 98 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: I actually do think so. And maybe this happens literally 99 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: every week. I'm not kidding every week. The more research 100 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: you do on the other team, you're like, oh, we 101 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: can get this, we got this in the bag. And 102 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: so I'll start with the offense if you're okay with that, 103 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: and Watt's. 104 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: Start with the offense now before we get going y right, 105 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: this is one of the last pieces of content we'll 106 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: put out. Sure, so leading up to this, we didn't 107 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: know if Jaden was going to be playing. Yeah it 108 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: was Marcus Mario don't want a lot of our content. 109 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: We now know this is Marcus Mariota that's going to 110 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: be out there as we're recording this. I don't know 111 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: about Debo. I don't know about Harry, like we don't 112 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: know about them yet. But let's just assume that they're out. Yeah, 113 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to assume pinus guy, I want to 114 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: assume the I don't want to say worst possible scenario, 115 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: but I want to assume that we don't have all 116 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: the pieces. Is it still a winnable game? You're saying yes, 117 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: So tell me how Marcus Mario goes in there and 118 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: gets the. 119 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Dumb So yeah, for the offense, Well, okay, so this 120 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: Steve Spagnola led defense is really fun to watch. They're 121 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: really well coached. They fit their gaps, they play their 122 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: covered structure as well. That's a good and a bad thing. 123 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: Like I've played against Steve Spagnola led defense is they're 124 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: awesome to play against because, like they're physical, it's just 125 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: a war for four quarters. They got a bunch of tough, hard, 126 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: hard nose, blue collar guys at every level of the defense. 127 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: I will also say though, that he is so regimented 128 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: in how he coaches that there are to see kind 129 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: of how they play their cover too, how they play 130 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: their single high, and you can rule them up and 131 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: manipulate them. Like on the film Breakdown show that we 132 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: did this week. Actually, Jason, you produced that show as well. 133 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: We talked about how there are certain rules versus certain 134 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: formations that they use and that you can exploit. And 135 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: so what I will say is that I'm very confident 136 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: that Cliff will be able to find some of those gaps. 137 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: Now. 138 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: The thing that I always find interesting about game plans 139 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: is sometimes those things, those little gaps in the armor, 140 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: so to speak, are repeatable, and sometimes they're not. So 141 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: if this is a game where it's a repeatable thing, 142 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: we can get into different formations, different personnel groupings, and 143 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: kind of exploit the same area of the defense. We 144 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: have a shot, right, there's a shot that this could 145 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: tip in our favor and we could take advantage of it. 146 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Because even when look at the Dallas game, I went 147 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: back and watched that a couple of days ago just 148 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: to kind of refresh my memory, there were plays to 149 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: be made that we didn't make. Now, like with this 150 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: ensemble of skill position players, with the offensive line, with 151 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback, the way it is. We have to stay 152 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: on scale, right. We have to make sure we complete 153 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: the football. We can't have drop passes, we can't have 154 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: air and throws, and that's going to be challenging to do. 155 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: But when I look at the Dallas game, like there 156 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: were opportunities that Cliff created off of play action, off 157 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: of formation that we weren't able to actualize because we 158 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: drop the pass or we miss the throw. So if 159 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: we are just a little bit more efficient, I think 160 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: there's a world where we're going to be in a 161 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: situation to be successful offensively. I think running the football 162 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: is going to be tough. We're going to have to 163 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: be creative with how we get to some of that stuff. 164 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I'd like them to spread it out a little bit 165 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: this week, getting to use thirteen personnel to throw the 166 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: football a little bit more, more more play action shots, 167 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: things like that. But there is a path, there is 168 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: a way, but we just have to be very efficient. 169 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: And I guess my question, like universally and I don't 170 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: have the answer to this, is can we play with 171 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: that level of efficiency down to down I think having 172 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota in this spot leads me to think yes. 173 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: But with some of these young pass catchers, can they 174 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: embody that efficiency. That's kind of the million dollar question 175 00:07:59,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: for me. 176 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: It's very sad that we're not going to see the 177 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: first matchup between d and Mahomes, and it was going 178 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: to be on Monday night. But that being said, hey, 179 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: as a Washington fan, let me give you a little 180 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: bit a nugget. It's a piece of paper, right, like 181 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: a little stat here that maybe give you some encouragement. 182 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: Did you know that Marcus Mariota is two to zero 183 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: versus Andy Reid? 184 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: Really? 185 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, both those wins, but those games came before Patrick 186 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: Mahomes was a starter. So we're eliminating a very key 187 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: piece in that stat which is why you know stats 188 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: can lie to you sometimes. But he he knows how 189 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: to keep pace for his offense with an Andy lead 190 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 2: led offense. So my question is, like, what from what 191 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: I heard from you, is that you're saying that Mariota 192 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: needs to be I don't want to say game manager, 193 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: but like, let's keep let's keep the offense on pace, 194 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: keep ahead of the sticks, stay efficient, keep Patrick Mahomes 195 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: on the sideline. Hit the play that are I think, 196 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: get the plays that are there. So you can't win 197 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: a game without explosive plays yep. So how are you 198 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: scheming up explosives and plays? And how many do you 199 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: need to keep pace with the Chiefs because even if 200 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: you keep them off the field, they're still going to 201 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: get theirs, just like with the Cowboys, they're going to 202 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: get theirs. So how do you keep pace offensively? How 203 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: are you scheming up explosive plays without Jane and Daniel. 204 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: I just want to address one thing real quick before 205 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: we kind of talk more about the offense. And it's 206 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: the Kansas City offense. And you said that they're explosive, 207 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: and they are explosive, and this is what this is 208 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: what I'm about to say is going to sound crazy 209 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: because it just be Las Vegas by thirty points. It's 210 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: thirty five to zero whatever it was, right, and they 211 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: beat they beat Detroit. I was at thirty to seventeen 212 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: or something like that. Their offense is not crazy explosive. Okay, 213 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not explosive. Let me just make 214 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: that making it more operating in a gray area here. 215 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: They're not crazy explosives. So like when you watch Dallas, 216 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we're gonna have to put up a 217 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: ton of points. We're gonna have to keep pace with 218 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: this group that finds exposed to plays. How do we 219 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: find exposive plays? Kansas City will let you they're okay 220 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: with playing kind of a game manager style game. We're 221 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: gonna run a little RPO, a couple of screens, a 222 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: little choice rout on third down. They're not taking like 223 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: deep shots now. Patrick mahomes deep shot percentage is higher 224 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: this year than it's been the last four or five years. 225 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: But don't let that deceive you. It's not like they're 226 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: scheming up these deep shots. It's Patrick Mahomes operating off schedule. 227 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: So that being said, I don't think the urgency offensively 228 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: needs to be crazy high. You just need to do 229 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,479 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. Don't let their offense hypothetically 230 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: shouldn't press you the same way Dallas's offense pressured you. 231 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 2: Can I give you a scenario and you tell me 232 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: if this is true or false. 233 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. 234 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: We can win this game if we score twenty six points. 235 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: But that also needs to be dominating the time of 236 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: possession with that. Is that a possible solution. 237 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a possible solution. Yeah, absolutely, And time 238 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: of possession is different than like running the football, for example. 239 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: But I do think like you can win this game 240 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: with twenty six points, and like last week, I was like, 241 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: we need to score thirty five just to give you 242 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: a difference in terms of how I'm viewing both of 243 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: these games. And I've been wrong before, but that's kind 244 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: of my perspective on the game. 245 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 2: I like to think that I have a general understanding 246 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: of how sports media works. Yeah, and I'm going to 247 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: make a prediction. Maybe I'm wrong here, but this is 248 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: not about the game itself. This is about going to 249 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: be about the Monday night football broadcast. They're going to 250 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: start that broadcast and they're going to start saying things like, 251 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: this is the Chiefs. We know they're now at full strength. 252 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: Are they the scariest offense in the NFL? Things like that, 253 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: because they're coming off of that dominating performance that you 254 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: just said against the Raiders. Do you actually believe that 255 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: is this like the Chiefs? Is it Patrick Mahomes? Is 256 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: it Travis Kelsey? Is it Rice? Is it worthy that 257 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: now that they're all together, this is the scariest offense 258 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: in the NFL to you? Or is it like they 259 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: is that perception or reality to you, and how should 260 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: Washington then react to what the reality is. 261 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a perception and what I mean by 262 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: that is I think that this Chief's offense is very good, 263 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: but it's not great. Like there are certain offenses you 264 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: watch and you're like, for example, like the Bears offense 265 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: that we played a couple of weeks ago, I was like, 266 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: man like, formationally, they're putting you in a lot of conflict. 267 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: This motion was really smart. The way they're formationing it 268 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: to get Roma Dunze at the targeted spot. That's really good. 269 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: And there is an element of that to any read. 270 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: And I don't want to make it sound like I'm 271 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: not being I'm anything but the almost respect for any read. 272 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: He's one of the best coaches of all time. It's 273 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: just the offense in Kansas City works and functions, at 274 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: least in my perspective. Off the chemistry that Mahomes has 275 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: with Travis Kelcey, with his receivers, with some of these 276 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: playmaking pieces. Now, that's kind of how their offense has 277 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: been up to this point. I will say getting Rashid 278 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: back in the fold is kind of giving him their 279 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: stud alpha guy because Basically, they had a bunch of 280 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: guys in Worthy and Thornton in Hollywood Brown that were 281 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: kind of speed, but like they were elements of the offense. 282 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: Rashid Rice is a feature of this offense. Or he 283 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: can be win versus man and man coverage, he can 284 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: win inside outside. He has a lot of characteristics of 285 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: that kind of top five receiver in the NFL. He's 286 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: not in that group, but he has elements of that 287 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: to his game. Which makes me a little bit nervous 288 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: because last week was his first week back and again 289 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: he didn't like take over the game or anything like that, 290 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: but the way they used him makes me think they're 291 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: going to expand his role moving into this. So I 292 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: don't think this is the Chiefs offense from five years 293 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: ago when Tyreek Hill was there. It's not that. And 294 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: I think and I think the Andy reach credit. They 295 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: do a good job of evolving each and every year. 296 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what evolution takes place with Rashid 297 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: Rice back in the lineup, Like, is he your third 298 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: down go to guy? Is he explosive down the field 299 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: because he can do that stuff in the same way 300 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: that a true number one can. So Patrick Mahomes hasn't 301 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: had a guy like that consistently in the lineup for 302 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: a long time, really, since Travis Kelce like started kind 303 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: of aging out of that group for them. So that's 304 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: my thing with this is I don't think this offense 305 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: is the scariest in the NFL, But could they be 306 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: the scariest with their stud wide receiver back. That's the 307 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: million dollar question for me. 308 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: So let's then nicely transition to Washington defense, Yes, because 309 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: let's say that they are the scariest, right Yeah, With 310 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: how Washington has been playing recently on defense, the results 311 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: of what do you think they need to do this 312 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: week to tighten those screws and be able to win 313 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: either what we talked about the potential we scored twenty 314 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: six points and dominate time of possession or that doesn't 315 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: happen and this turns into a shootout. What do they 316 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: have to do to just tighten screws a little bit 317 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: to keep our offense in this and a complimentary game 318 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: between defense and offense for Washington. 319 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: So it's gonna sound crazy, and I'm reticently acknowledging that 320 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: this is crazy and it seems crazy, but I kind 321 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: of want to see them play a little bit more 322 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: man on first and second down. And what I mean 323 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: by that is like they run a lot of RPO, 324 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: they will run a lot of zone read. A really 325 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: good way to defeat that is playman coverage. 326 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: So I don't mean to cut you off, but talk 327 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: me through what man the man would look like. And 328 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: I'm the type of person that kind of needs to 329 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: visualize it. Sure, So if you're doing that, if you're saying, 330 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: all right, we're going to go and man the man, 331 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: I know this isn't going to be every play when 332 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: you're in man right, right, right, But who's guardian Rice? 333 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: Who's guardian Kelsey? Who's guarding Worthy? Who are you wanting 334 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: to put on Washington's defense in these man the man 335 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,119 Speaker 2: situations to put them in the best position to succeed defensively. 336 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: So let me like, yeah, that's a really good question. 337 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: So prior to Rice's return, I actually felt good about 338 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: the matchups across the board. Quite honestly, I've really was like, oh, 339 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, Kwan can take Kelsey, who's very football player, 340 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: but not the player he was five years ago or 341 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: four years ago. Like he's been very productive, but against 342 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: zone Taekwon Thornton, I think is a tall, long, angular 343 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: guy who's fast. Worthy is a smaller, fast guy. Both 344 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: of our corners are very physical and they have a 345 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: hard time with more physical corners, right, Hollywood Brown falls 346 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: in that same bucket. I think Mike Sanders still, if 347 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: he wants to be physical, can match up well. So 348 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: obviously feel very, very good about those matchups. The problem 349 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: then becomes is when you take because none of them 350 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: can really definitively win versus management coverage. You're all fast. 351 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: The problem becomes when you take Rashid Rice and you 352 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: put him in the mix, because now, who's who's going 353 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: to match up with that guy? Because he plays the slot, 354 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: he plays the perimeter. He's very good, he's very physical, 355 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: he's a bigger body receiver. He's like six one and 356 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: a half two hundred and ten pounds. He's special. So 357 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: that's now something you have to contend with. And do 358 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: you say, let's put Marshawn on him? And again Marshaan 359 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: like I think as being rightfully so being very being 360 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: critical sized, but I don't think he's playing as bad 361 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: as some of the criticism would lead you to believe. 362 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: So do you feel like that's the matchup, or do 363 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: you feel like Trey Amless is the matchup? 364 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: Then well, let me ask you this when it comes 365 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: to Marshan. Yeah, do you feel like Marshaan versus whoever there? 366 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: De facto number one? Maybe isn't the right play with 367 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: Kansas City? Problem is like just put them on Worthy 368 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: wherever Worthy is because of the size and the play 369 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: style is favorable to Washington. Or is that or do 370 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: you still want him shading over towards Rice because that's 371 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: kind of the position you want to put Marshan. And 372 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: I'm asking you if you were in the position of like, man, 373 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: I have to figure out how to slow their receivers down, 374 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: what is the matchup you were looking for? 375 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: You know, I would defer to Joe Wood Junior. Obviously 376 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: he's the defensive quarteraor smart guy. I forgot more football 377 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: than I'll ever know. But I think part of me says, like, 378 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: if Rashi Rice is in the slot, like I kind 379 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: of want Mikey on him because I just think it's 380 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: a better matchup from a route tree standpoint. I think 381 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: Mikey's more familiar with kind of that slot work as 382 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: opposed to Marshawn and then if he's on the perimeter 383 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: like outside and he's the X, I actually like the 384 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 1: matchup really well because it's not like Pickens. I think 385 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: people sleep on how physically gifted he is. He can run, 386 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: he's got long arms, he can jump, he plays the 387 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: ball well. Rashid White, Rice, while being very talented, is 388 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: not that same horse, so I may you know, and again, 389 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: like he's a good football player, they're going to find 390 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: ways to get him touches, Like it's important to acknowledge that, Like, 391 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: good football players are going to make plays, but can 392 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: you manage it and mitigate it? And I think if 393 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: you were kind of going to work a combination of 394 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: Mikey and the slot with Marshawn or even Tramos on 395 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: the perimeter, I think that's going to work out. Okay, 396 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, just because of the style of offense that 397 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: they're running, like with Dallas, like that was the concern 398 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: is they're going to push this football down the field. 399 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: They're going to let this freak athlete make plays on 400 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: the football down the field. That's not really how they've 401 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: used Rice so far. It's been choices, options underneath kind 402 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: of stuff where they're using these other speed guys to 403 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: clear it out. And so again like it doesn't feel 404 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: like and again, anything can change. They could have watched 405 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: the phone from last week and like, let's go poms over, 406 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: back down and let this thing go. But I do 407 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: think it's gonna if he does catch the football, it's 408 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: not going to kill you. The same way. It's like 409 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: it almost feels like his targets last week were like 410 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: a really effective run game. And again it's his first 411 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: week back. 412 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, he had a sixty six percent target chair 413 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: or something like that on snaps he played, which is 414 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: not sustainable. I think that's because he was on a 415 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: pitch count a little bit. 416 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he played thirty snaps and then he 417 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: had like sixteen targets or whatever it was. 418 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: So you expect that to go up as far as 419 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: the snaps he'll take, but that target chair it shouldre 420 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: come down. 421 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And again like he's the guy. He's the guy, 422 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: and that's what Andy Reid does. Such a great job 423 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: of his finding ways to get him the ball. So 424 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: to me, I think the story when it comes to 425 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: throwing the football, it's how do you deal with him? 426 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: Because I feel pretty comfortabout the other matchups across the 427 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: board if you're in man coverage. But he's the guy 428 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: that they're gonna look to to win it man situations, 429 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: to kind of be that playmaking element of the offense 430 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: when they need to go to opportunity. And I don't 431 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: know what the best solution is for that at this moment. 432 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: Is it some type of bracket, is it some type 433 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: of rotated look. But again, he plays on the slot 434 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: so much that's going to be hard to do. 435 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 2: So you spoke about that. Kansas City runs a lot 436 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: of RPO and on the film breakdown show that you 437 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: can check out on YouTube if you're listening to this 438 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: logan breaks down film of the opposing team coming up 439 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: that week, you broke down how they use RPO. Patrick 440 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: Mahomes is not one to generally run the ball, make 441 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: that a triple option in the sense and be able 442 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: to run it. He will, but that's generally not what 443 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: he's trying to do. He's trying to pass or hand 444 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: off to Pachaco. So and except he does have four 445 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns this year, so don't sleep on it once 446 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: you get close to the goal line. But what I'm 447 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: trying to say is, if they're going to run RPO. 448 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: All right, so you've explained how you're stopping the past. 449 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: How are we stopping to run? Because in the Dallas 450 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: game that was another thing that we saw. Bo be 451 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: a bugaboo. That's a great way of putting it. So 452 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: we have been good against to run this year. I 453 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: think that's easy to forget because a recency bias. But 454 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: Washington has had games where they've done well against the run. 455 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: How do they get back to that form? 456 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that's one of the reasons why 457 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: I want to play man coverage a little bit more 458 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: on for a second down is because of the RPO. 459 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: It would allow us to keep six guys in a box. 460 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: So what they like to do is they like to 461 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: spread you out a little bit. Kansas City get in 462 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: like these eleven personnels, so that's three ID receivers, one 463 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: tight end, one back and or you know, even twelve 464 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: personnel to spread you out, and then they're going to 465 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: kind of try to manipulate the box count so that 466 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: you're lighting the box, they get favorable angles and hat numbers, 467 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: and they just run the ball down your throat. This 468 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: if you're in man coverage, it allows you to keep 469 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: Frankie or Bobby in the box with four defensive linemen 470 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: in front of you, And I really think that's going 471 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: to be an advantage in the other thing too, in 472 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: these sub run looks. Now, you know, I get fixated 473 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: on these things in these conversations. It's important to remember 474 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: that they also run like twelve personnel runs. They bring 475 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: a full back in fullback in the game like do 476 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: other stuff. It's important to remember that. But the thing 477 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: they kind of hang their hat on is the RPO. 478 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: So I feel like we got to stop that, which 479 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: is why we're spending so much time talking about it. 480 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: With RPO run surfaces, the way they run it, it's 481 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: a lot of tight zone and a lot of mid zone. 482 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: So there's not a lot of pin polls, which is 483 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: things that have given us a hard time. 484 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: Quickly explain a pinpole. 485 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: So pin poll is like, you know, let's say a 486 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: classic one is like you get the receiver in a 487 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: tight split, he blocks down on the defensive end, the 488 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: tackle on the guard, pull to the perimeter, and basically 489 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: you are building a you know that classic like Lombardi. 490 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: Here's a crease, here's the alley. Let's attack the alley 491 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: because we've got because we've got this nice pin block 492 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: by the receiver, we've got to kick out by by 493 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: the tackle of the guard and then the guards leading 494 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: up on the safety internal. 495 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: So the pin is the receiver or tight end or 496 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: and the pole is guard tackle. 497 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes we'll use the fullback or tight end 498 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah. But like you're just basically you're setting 499 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: up your your your you're trapping a player inside on 500 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: a gap. Then you're adding a gap to the perimeter 501 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: with this offensive lineman or tight end whoever it is. 502 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: And now you've created a seam and an alley and 503 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: you're hitting the ball inside there. 504 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: All right, Defensively, how do you work against that? 505 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: So what I will say is they don't. They at 506 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: least in their sub run packages, they don't do a 507 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: lot of that, which if you look at teams that 508 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: we've been good stopping the run against, they don't do 509 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: a lot of pin poll stuff, and even pin poll 510 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: stuff like even gap scheme with poles, like, they don't 511 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: do a lot of that stuff too in their sub 512 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: run package. So I feel pretty good about it. If 513 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: we can play man coverage, have six guys in the box, 514 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: we should be able to slow that down pretty well. 515 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: The problem that becomes when they get in these more 516 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: exotic personnels. We get in twelve, we get in thirteen, 517 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: we get in twenty one. Now, all of a sudden, 518 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: that gap scheme stuff we were just referring to the 519 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: traps the whams becomes a little bit more complicated. They 520 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: don't do it as much as let's say the Bears. 521 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: They don't do it as much as let's say the 522 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: the LA Chargers. But you know, this is something Santana 523 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: always points out. They've watched our film. Do they say 524 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: let's do it more now? Because they have a hard 525 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: time with it. That's something if you're watching the game 526 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: at home to keep an eye on, is like, do 527 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: they deviate from what they've been doing the last couple 528 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: of weeks and say, hey, we can get in these 529 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: heavy personnel groups and run the football. I will also say, 530 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll do that. Because Josh Shimmons 531 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: are left tackles out for some undisclosed personal matter. Trey 532 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: Smith is on the injury report. Jowan Taylor's on the 533 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: injury report. Kings Luysue Mataiya is a rookie left guard 534 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: that's starting for them, So it's not the most Yeah, 535 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: it's not the most dominant group of all time in there. 536 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: So do you want to kind of put all your 537 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: eggs in the basket and say we're going to play 538 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: a physical brand of downhill football? Or do you want 539 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: to de leverage that group with more RPO. If I'm 540 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, I probably say de leverage your group with 541 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: more rpo. Let our quarterback make us right all the time, 542 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: and which he's done an excellent job of all year. Yeah, 543 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: you trust Patrick mahone right, which is why I would 544 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: tend to lean that way. But if I'm Joe Woo 545 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: junior this week, I'm definitely prepping the pinpulls, the powers, 546 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: the counters that have it given us a hard time 547 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: in the past couple of weeks. 548 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: Do you what do you think players can do individually? 549 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying call out individual players. I'm just saying, 550 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: what if you were on defense, as a player on defense, 551 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: what could you do individually to make sure that these 552 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: players are successful. The reason I'm asking that question is 553 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: because we've heard several times from defensive coordinator Joe Witt 554 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: and head coach Dan Quinn, we want our guys to 555 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: play sound, high standard football. Don't put one to Superman cap. 556 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: Now we hear that. So what does that look like 557 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: in practice as an individual? 558 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I can only speak to it from an 559 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: offensive perspective, and basically, to me, it's taking extreme ownership 560 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: of the task that's been given to you. Right, So, like, 561 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: for example, versus when I was here in Washington, like 562 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: Kyle would be like, hey, man, versus this front, we 563 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: want to make this call and versus this front, we 564 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: want to make this call. And so he would give 565 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: me the answers to the test for two looks, right, 566 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: or Sean McVay, whoever it was. Then I would go 567 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: to the film room afterwards, and just just in case, 568 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: I'd go and watch the first and second down run 569 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: cut up and be like, Okay, this is I'd make 570 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: this call here because that's what Kyle said. I'd make 571 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: this call here because that's what Sean said. Oh, here's 572 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: a new front that I haven't seen before. What's the 573 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: call they want me to make here? Let me make 574 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: a note of that and go through a couple more. 575 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: Here's a run pressure that they're bringing here. How do 576 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: I account for that? Make a note? Then I'd go 577 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: talk to Sean or Kyle or whoever it was, and 578 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: they'd be like, Oh, that's really good. You brought that in. 579 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. We want this, we want this, 580 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: we want this. 581 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: And so that's personal accountability. 582 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: Personal accountability. Right. So, I think one of the things 583 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: with defense and talking with Fletcher and Smoot and Sean 584 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: Springs about this and Santana is it's the same thing 585 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: for run fits. It's the same thing for coverage responsibility 586 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: is like the coaches can only take you so far, right, 587 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: they can only take you, you know, as there's only 588 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: there's a certain number of reps in practice, there's a 589 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: certain number of reps and walk through they as a player, 590 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: can you take yourself the other or you know, fifteen 591 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: or twenty reps through film study, through preparation, through discussion 592 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: with other people on the team. Right, Like there'd be 593 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: times where like the you know, Trent for example, would 594 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: be like, hey, man, did you see this look? And 595 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, no, I didn't see this. And 596 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: he'd be like, just I'm going to do this if 597 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: they do this, and I'd be like, okay, cool, And 598 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: now we're on the same page. We've had that conversation, 599 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: and I think, like, that's something i'd like to see. 600 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: I'd hope that the defensive leadership does right as they 601 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: just say, Hey, versus this motion which we didn't get 602 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: this week in practice, but we got last week, this 603 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do, versus this route concept, this 604 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: is how we're going to pass it off, versus this bunch. 605 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: This is what we're gonna do. And the coaches will 606 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: provide the framework for it, but the players have to 607 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: take that ownership so when that moment comes, they can 608 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: get it communicated and get it executed. 609 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: Let me be the optimist and say that with the 610 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: guys that are in the building, they are doing that. 611 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: Cause you have guys like Bobby Wagner that I have 612 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: a history of. There going to be those guys draw 613 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: on pain, right, So having a history of guys that 614 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: do take ownership and we know that by their character, yeah, 615 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: things they talk about what other people have said. So 616 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: then my question is why does that sometimes get missed 617 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: on game day? Now I'm not pushing and saying that 618 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: they are necessarily all the time, but what's the transition 619 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: then from Okay, I've taken personal ownership with film study 620 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: and preparation on this play. How do I ensure that 621 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: I don't have a mental lapse or that I don't 622 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: get confused or that is that a like you said, 623 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: just a communication within the game thing, because sometimes you 624 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: can prepare all you want and there's still a question 625 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: on the test that is like, ooh, this one seems 626 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 2: a little flunky to me. So how do you then 627 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: put in in practice, especially against a team that well, 628 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: when you're playing in the NFL against an offense, their 629 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: job is to They're not going to give you the 630 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: questions that you studied for. They're going to try and 631 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: throw you for a loop. So how do you make 632 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: that adjustment in real time? 633 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: It's a fantastic question. And dan Quinn said something which 634 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: I've heard multiple times over the course of my career, 635 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: and I think it's the best advice that I've ever 636 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: gotten as a player, and it's the best advice that 637 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: I give now, I think to young players who are 638 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: having a hard time. And he said, aim small, miss small, 639 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: And I think people say, what does that mean? If 640 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm e've been shooting, You're trying to throw a football 641 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: and hit a target, right, If I'm looking at the 642 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: whole target, right, it's kind of overwhelming. It's like maybe 643 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: I can hit that big thing, but I'm trying to 644 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: be specific with my approach. So let's decrease the aiming 645 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: point and make the show where it needs to be. 646 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: With football, I had a coach someb me one time 647 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: I got beat really bad on a play beat. I 648 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: think it was like De Marcus or just beat me 649 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: like an absolute drum and I came off and I 650 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: was like, I need to do this with my hands. 651 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: What if I tried this? And he's like, well, what's 652 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: your base technique, what's your fundamental technique? And I said, well, 653 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: outside step, set my line, inside step down, throw my 654 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: inside hand hard. He's like, do that and I was 655 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: like okay, And so I went out and I had 656 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: my aiming point, I did the footwork, threw my inside 657 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: hand and I caught him. And it was it wasn't 658 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: that I needed to do more, it was that I 659 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: needed to do less. And I think sometimes when you're 660 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: watching defense, when you're watching offensive guys, specifically defense against Dallas, 661 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: you see guys trying to make plays and it's like 662 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: that old what is that? The uh forgetting Sarah Marshall 663 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: where the surfing coaches like do less, do less, Like 664 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: there's something real to that, right, there's a real element 665 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: of coaching to that that I think is often overlooked 666 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, they're running the ball over, so 667 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: I got to play over the top and make no 668 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: fit your gap. Trust that guy to do what he's 669 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: supposed to do. Oh that guy missed it. Don't let 670 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: that dissuade you from what you're supposed to do, because 671 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: next time when you play over the top and he 672 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: does what he's supposed to do, the ball is going 673 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: to go over here. Or next time when we're playing 674 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: the bunch and you try to run to this guy 675 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: and we got to communicate it in a different way, 676 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: that's the mistake. So don't think big, think small, think detailed, 677 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: be precise, and. 678 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: I think muscle memory take over the preparation correct. 679 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that when I watch 680 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: the defense, I'm like, they just need to they need 681 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: an aim small and they need to miss small. And 682 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: I think hearing Dan Quinn say that in the Game 683 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: Plan show gives me a lot of confidence that he 684 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: sees a lot of the stuff that the fancy and understands. 685 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: The best way to correct it is help them find 686 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: that narrow laser focus. 687 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: Logan. I think we can win this game, So do I. 688 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: I think you can win any game. I think it's 689 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: this is I made this analogy on the Command Center 690 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: podcast with Fred and Santana where it's like, we started 691 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: the season off like very talented bunch of free agent 692 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: guys that were fitting roles very nicely, and our target 693 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: was huge. You know. I was like, man, we could 694 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: mess up. We can like that, think back to that 695 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: Giants game, like, Wow, we could kind of make a 696 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: bunch of mistakes. As we've had injuries, as we've had 697 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: guys that aren't around anymore that we were counting on, 698 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: that target's gotten much smaller. It's still there, and we 699 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: just have to make sure that our focus is layered 700 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: in on that. Right. So like we can't drop the 701 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: ball on offense, we can't have misstargeted runs on offense. 702 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: Those are things that are totally in our control. Right, 703 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: They're going to make plays defensively, but we have to 704 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: make sure we're not giving them unforced errors. It's the 705 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: same thing on defense. Right, our margin for error has decreased, 706 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: but it's still there. We just have to make sure 707 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: hold ourselves accountable to that standard, I think as the team, 708 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: and I think that's everyone I've talked to this week 709 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: has kind of said something similar to me, and I 710 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: think that they understand that, and I think hopefully they 711 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 1: can execute it again. Kansas City's good football team. They 712 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: have maybe the best best person playing football currently in 713 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. It's going to be a challenge, but there 714 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: is a path the victory, especially if we play Commanders football. 715 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: All right. Logan Paulson, former ten year NFL veteran tight end, 716 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: You know these guys that around on the field, the 717 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: Zach Ertz and Travis Kelsey's. You know these guys a 718 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 2: little bit. 719 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I've went to tight end university and Zach 720 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: and I have the same agent, so we've been at 721 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: a couple functions together. And Travis Kelsey, you know, he 722 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: runs a title university with George Kittle, and you know, 723 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: I had a lot of preconceived notions about him and 724 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: his personality and it is one of the most genuine 725 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: people that I've ever been in contact with, and I 726 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: learned so much from him down there. 727 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: So again, great football player, he is a great football player. 728 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: And I will say that my wife will be very 729 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: highly tuned into this game because she's a swifty, right, 730 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: she's huge, So we our household definitely has Chiefs games on. 731 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: Whenever Washington is, she'll probably be there, right. 732 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing. 733 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: Probably you know what I had this now, my wife 734 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: will always pull for Washington before anything else, but she'll 735 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: root for the person. 736 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: Of Travis I guess. I mean, like that's I mean, honestly, 737 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: that's how I started watching football, was like you get 738 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: you'd be fans of certain guys on different teams. 739 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't know if this is a 740 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: hot take. A plenty of people have said it, but 741 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: I think Taylor Swifts good for football, right, Like, please 742 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: show her on TV, because you're gonna get people like 743 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: my wife or maybe one day something like my daughter 744 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: interested in football. And like that doesn't mean that they 745 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: have to be a Chiefs fan or they have to 746 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: be a Travis Kelsey fan, just be a football fan 747 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: and that's the way you get introduced. I remember getting 748 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 2: introduced to football was because it was like, hey, get 749 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: Darryl Green and Art Monk and like the I remember 750 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: rooting for individuals before teams personally. Now, not everybody's like that. 751 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: But that's is too. I trained some guys for the 752 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: combine and stuff and he's like, oh, is is uh 753 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: mister Terrence playing this game? And I'm like, oh, and 754 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: I was playing this game, but he don't walk away. 755 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: But I hope that please show on TV because maybe 756 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: we'll have enough people tune in that normally wouldn't that 757 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: get to see that, and then they get to say, oh, 758 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: what's this Washington team? They're pretty fun and they beat 759 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Right, Maybe I'm a Washington fan, Like that's 760 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 2: how things happen. It really does happen that way. So yeah, 761 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 2: I hope she's on there. But I will say that, 762 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: like I actually you know it. Maybe it's you play 763 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: the win the games, right, and that's why they play 764 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: these games. I know that there's a we're underdogs, but 765 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 2: I think we can win this game. I really do. 766 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: It is not something that the Chiefs. The Chiefs have 767 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: before lost to underdogs. So it's not like Jacksonville right right, 768 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago. So it's not like 769 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: they're always playing at a certain type of caliber or level. 770 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 2: My my point is like they need to play bad 771 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: for us to win. My point is is that if 772 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: you go in there and you play good football, other 773 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: team has to show up to Yeah. 774 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: So that's that's all we're saying, right, you play good 775 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: go play good football, and they can win the game. 776 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: I think they can. I think they will, which is uh, 777 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: if they can do that, I'd be really excited because 778 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: it'll be a fun, fun game to watch. 779 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Logan. I always appreciate you. 780 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jason, I appreciate you. Is that it? That's it.