WEBVTT - Introducing The Sisters 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.960 Hi there to Mumbay listeners. This is Fred Greenholsch, the 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:06.920 host of Undertow Realm's premiere horror podcast, and I'm excited 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:08.880 to let you know that the creators of Tumumbay have 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.760 a new show out with us called The Sisters. When 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.440 the curator of a museum of medical oddities receives a 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.520 mysterious gift, she uncovers a story of a curse that 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.759 connects her present with one family's haunted past. Terrifyingly enough, 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.000 this tale of grief and obsession was inspired by real events, 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.160 and if you are a skeptic about ghosts and the paranormal, 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.440 while listening to The Sisters will probably make you think again. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.559 Today you'll hear the first full episode of The Sisters. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.720 To find the rest, look for The Sisters, season six 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.360 of Undertow rever Podcasts are served. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:44.640 What you are about to hear is a true story. 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.320 It happened in Hexham, England in the nineteen fifties and sixties. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.680 Names have been changed out of respect to the victims 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:57.120 and to protect the innocent. The Sisters episode one Believe 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:57.480 it or. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:06.000 Not, it's the third nineteen sixty five interview number seven with. 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:14.560 Well why don't you introduce yourself? My lovely tell me 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:14.960 your name? 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:24.959 Where's Jackie? We do everything together, which I. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:25.640 Know you are, Jill. 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.480 I bet you have a lot of fun, don't you. No, 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.760 But today Jill is all about you. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.119 Is it black going to the dentist? 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.600 No, that's much nicer than going to the dentist. 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.800 What have you got there, Jill? What are you playing 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:51.200 with my locket? Is there anything inside it? 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.880 Yes? H from an angel. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:04.920 Well that's something that'll keep you safe't it now? Jill? 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.720 Why don't you tell me about My name. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:09.200 Is mart. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:11.120 Did you? 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:12.560 That doesn't mean anything? 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.880 She's heard me talk? Please let the child speak. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:26.960 My name is mort all right, Maude, tell me about yourself. 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:33.760 My name is Jill any years old. We are eight 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:38.400 years old. We live in Hexham, England. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.119 We ride bikes. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:43.079 Hell. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:54.440 Hello, good afternoon. My name is Sprinkie Bradshaw. I'm the 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:58.160 chief curator of the world famous Mutter Museum here in 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:05.480 downtown Philadelphia, and I'll be your tour guide through hell. Kidding, 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.079 that's just a joke. Before we get started, you should 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.800 know some of the objects on display here can be 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.840 quite triggering. I hate that word, but it's true. This 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:20.200 isn't a typical museum. It's not filled with beautiful objects. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:25.200 To the contrary, it's a showcase of imperfection, an unflinching 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.960 look into the mysteries of the human body, and that. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.040 Yes, you have a question. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.840 Is it true you have a piece of Einstein's brain? 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:35.960 Yes, we do. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:40.960 We also have the fucking moor of pickled skin. This 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.600 is the last place I ever wanted to work. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:44.120 Yes. 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.720 Actually, when I was in grad school at Penn, I 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.960 thought I'd be the curator of the Philadelphia Art Museum 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.680 by now, or at least a gallery with actual art. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:54.880 Follow me. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.880 The fact is I'm thirty four years old and working 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.480 here is one step above Ripley's believe it or not. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:05.840 So where's the rest of Einstein's brain? 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.040 Do you keep it on a separate floor? 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.480 Like the different rings? And Lord of the Rings? It's 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:11.760 too powerful to have them together? 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:22.240 So how do I deal with questions like these? I 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:29.160 sneak into the bathroom for a drink. I really shouldn't. 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.599 What I should do is call my sponsor. But before 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:39.400 I get the chance, Frankie, Yes, duncan, I'm in here. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.320 We just got a delivery, a box. They won't let 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:43.000 me time for it. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.240 Did you tell them you work here? 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:46.760 Yes, Frankie, of course. 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:48.279 Well what kind of box? 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:48.920 I don't know. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:49.720 I haven't seen it. 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:55.120 I want you, Frankie, what should I tell him? 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:55.640 Do you? 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.440 Frankie to diary? 0:04:58.080 --> 0:04:58.320 Uh? 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.520 Yeah, well sort of. I'm divorced. It's no longer. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.599 My last name. Well, whatever your name is. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.080 You kept me out here fifteen minutes freezing my assigh? 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:16.279 Yeah, sorry, don't be gorgeous A signy? So where's the 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.719 box back of the truck? You got a back door 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:19.159 or something. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:20.599 I can help you load it in. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.159 How big is it? 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:23.920 Oh? 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:24.479 It's big. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.040 Let's take the plastic off. 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:31.120 Okay, let me cut it. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:36.479 Shit. 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.120 I think it's some kind of animal. 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.839 Animal, Franky, it's a bipedal. Do you know what this is? 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.919 It's a fucking alien. Look at the thing. It's huge. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:57.479 It is huge, twice as thick and several feet longer 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.360 than a normal human skeleton. And there's no space between 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.520 the bones. It's like the skeletal remains of a blob. 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.440 Jesus, where do you think he's from? Mars or Venus? 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.120 Probably New Jersey? Oh, come on, Duncan, don't you see 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:17.719 it's a prank, you think. Yeah, remember the two headed 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:19.080 pig man we got in the mail. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.680 Last year, Hey, that was very convincing. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:21.600 I know. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:23.880 And remember how disappointed you were. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.840 Hi Estas, Yeah, I know. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:39.599 It's my faults. Day is my childhood friend from Hershey, Pennsylvania. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.840 She's from an orthodox Jewish family, but she's a devout 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.479 atheist like me. I'm proud of her. She's the best 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:47.880 medical examiner in Philly. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:49.720 Anyway, it's been a long day. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:59.080 Listen, we have something for you. Tada, So what do 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:00.960 you think? It just arrived? 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:02.599 Duncan thinks it's an alien? 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.240 Tilt the camera, Frankie. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:07.680 Frankie thinks it's a frank. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:16.640 Oh, it's not a prank. Pull back, Frankie, scroll from 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:17.280 head to toe. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.040 Poor woman, it's a woman. 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.320 I think. So it's hard to tell over FaceTime. Maybe 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.320 I can come by tomorrow and take a closer look. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:31.720 Sure, that'll be great. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.480 Just so I'm clear, there was no information, no return address. 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:40.000 Nothing, no no, she came in this box, just totally anonymous. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.400 Shall we stop right? 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:56.160 Today is August the twenty third, nineteen sixty nine, and 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:01.240 I'm here interviewing Francis Pollard. Has brought hospital night and 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:01.920 giral wins. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:02.600 It's all right. 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.800 You can call it an asylum for the criminally insane, 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.200 because that's what it is. 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:14.280 I'm here to help you better understand your your situation. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:20.160 No doctor, No, you're here to answer a question. 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.720 Well, hopefully together we will answer many. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.120 No, just one. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.640 Why would a mother come to the conclusion that the 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.520 world would be a better place if her children were dead? 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:34.280 That's the question. 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.560 Okay, yeah, all right, Mum and dad, if you stand 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:41.360 on either side of. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:45.120 The girls, all right, like this yet? Yeah, just like 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:49.160 that it Maud, move a bit closer on the sofa. 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.920 I'm Mary. 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:52.960 It's okay. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:54.720 Everyone confuses. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.520 Sorry about that, Mary, about you and your sister have 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:58.920 a lot of fun confusing people. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.520 Ah, No, I'm married. No, I'm married. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:04.240 Enough. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:09.599 Okay, a big smile everyone, three two one. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:18.880 We had a happy life. We were a happy family until. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:32.800 Relax, Francis, just relax, have another sip of water, the better. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:36.000 Yes. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.079 Do you want to stop now? No? 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:51.480 No, I want to carry on all right. It was 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:59.480 the summer of nineteen fifty seven, our last summer together. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.840 Our twins Mary and Maude were everything we ever wanted. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.520 It was a good year for us, for the whole country. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.640 In fact, the war was over, we had a new 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:20.200 queen on our throne, and we just bought our first 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.559 car on higher purchase. It seemed like it really was 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:30.599 a new era where everything was possible. My husband, Thomas, 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.880 was an engineer. He worked at the local car factory. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:39.040 Was a good, steady job. We enjoyed simple pleasures, you know, 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:45.840 family outings, picnics by the lake, church, social events, we 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.280 went to Saint Luke's. 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.439 But most of all. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:54.439 We enjoyed going to the pictures around New York, especially 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.199 Hollywood movies from America. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.120 I want to go to America in there. Why no, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.679 you don't. You're only seen it because I said it. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.199 No, not yes, you are. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:18.040 Girls. We had everything we needed, and yet Thomas. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.199 What about Thomas Francis? 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:32.720 There was somehow did I ever really know him? 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.199 What do you mean, Francis? 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.520 You're such a good girl, you know I think Matelda 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:47.320 needs a brother. Good idea, Mary, Hey, Dad, can we 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.000 get a boy dog? What we can name him Cliff? 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.560 Oh no, no, no, no more dogs. 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.800 No, but listen, I've got something even better for you. 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.240 Come on, come on, girls. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.960 Following into the garage. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.520 Is this another invention, Daddy? No, No, it's not just 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.679 another invention. It's the invention. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.440 This is my masterpiece. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.720 You ready, Tella? 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.319 Well what is it? 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:33.200 This is our future, girls. It's a refrigerator motor, my 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.800 original design, so it will allow fridges to run longer 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:39.199 and more efficiently. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.440 Do you have any other inventions? 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:45.360 This is my masterpiece. 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:51.800 So that's how it started, with a fridge motor. He 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.840 took it around the trade show as we tried to 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:59.520 find investors. No one was interested. As far as I 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.520 was concerned, it was a hobby, something he tinkered within 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.400 the garage. I didn't realize then that. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.920 What didn't you realize, fancis. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:22.680 That it would lead to the end of everything. Fancy 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:23.240 a cup of tea? 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:23.440 Love? 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:23.760 Oh? 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:24.040 Yes? 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:30.880 One evening we were watching television. The girls were upstairs asleep, 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:37.240 and suddenly Matilda, our dog, began running around in circus bark. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:38.880 Matilda calmed down. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.240 Helm's got into her eight Until they come here? 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:48.360 You expecting anyone? 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.679 It's probably someone collected for some of that. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.599 All right or right? I'm coming. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:03.079 Uh yeah, hello, there are you? Thomas pol If not, 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:04.040 I've got their own half. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.679 Hi, I'm Frankie. 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:20.800 Hi, Hi, I'm an alcoholic. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:22.200 Yeah. 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:27.560 I'd been sober, well semi sober, for you know, about 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:32.440 three years, but the last six months have been, uh 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:39.440 been pretty rough on me. You know, I got divorced. Well, 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:44.120 I mean it wasn't consensual, you know. He he left me, 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.320 which was probably a good decision on his part because 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.320 I'm a complete mess. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.760 But you know, I'm I'm. 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:00.480 Also a fighter. 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:16.320 So here I am Bagels. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.600 I've got bagel, Good morning yesterday. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.760 Here you go, duncan Oh? 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:21.360 I stay here? 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:21.800 The best? 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.000 Could you remember this extra cream cheese? 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.160 Yes, we're all going to have high cholesterol. Now where 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:27.520 is she. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:29.040 In the back? 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:29.440 Come on? 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.240 So, Frankie, how was your date last night? 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:37.920 Oh? 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:41.640 Shit, you forgot Huh? 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:42.320 Poor guy. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:43.280 He'll be fine. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:44.680 He's a straight man on tender. 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.760 He probably had another date lined up right after. Besides, 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.440 I'm preoccupied with who Banil? 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.880 Frankie, you got to stop thinking about him. 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:53.600 It's over. 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.160 No, not Banil. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.480 I was thinking about Matilda, who. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.640 She named the skeleton Matilda? 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.720 You name the skeleton Matilda. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:05.560 It's cute? 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:06.600 Any reason? 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:06.880 Why? 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:07.760 No? 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:14.160 Not really, It's just sort of came to me. Okay, 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.360 there she is that's her in the box. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:20.760 And I still think it's an alien. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:29.480 Mm hmm. This is. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:32.280 Wow. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:40.880 The bones are so thick. See here, the first seven 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:46.840 ribs are completely fused. They're thick as baseball bats. Right, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:48.880 I've never seen anything like this? 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:49.800 Who is she? 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:51.520 Not she? 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:53.080 They? 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:53.760 Maybe? 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:55.360 Wait? 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:56.920 Two people? 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:02.040 Oh look at the neck here in the conjoin twins 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.000 connected like this, just stacked on top of each other, 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:06.760 their organs would be crushed. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.840 I mean, she's not a conjoined twin, she's not a giant. 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:13.159 Who is she? 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:21.960 I don't there is one other possibility? What I have 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:22.880 to call doctor Lee? 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:24.359 Who my boss? 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.960 Can you stop by? 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:30.320 Is there a better light back here? 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:34.119 Maybe turn on the overheads they're already on. 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:43.160 Oh maybe it's just my eyes. No, that can't be possible. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.320 No, no, no, no. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:46.320 Just say it. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.280 Say what it's FOP right? 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.000 FOP yes? 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:57.440 Or to use the technical name fibro dysplasia osipicuns progressive. 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.280 My god, there's only been a handful of cases. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.360 Really in your whole career. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:11.800 Ever, and you have no idea where it came from. 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.600 No, she was sent here anonymously. 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.840 Well I need to know more. Can I take her 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:19.640 back to my office. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:28.440 No, sorry, it might be helpful, I know, but it 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.399 was sent here ESDA to me. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:32.520 Is this about credit? 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:35.359 Yes? 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:41.399 Actually, I'm the curator of this museum. 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:42.520 Who else has seen it? 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.359 Just us break it down for me, Doc, What is FOP? 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:47.080 I mean? 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.720 If what you're saying is true, if it's so extremely rare, 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:55.080 then finding the owner of this skeleton shouldn't be too hard, right. 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:57.520 Okay, let's see. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.800 For the next week, I researched every known case of 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:06.359 FOP I could find Harvard Medical Journal, July. It turns 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.639 out FOP is an extremely rare genetic disorder that causes 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:15.719 the body's soft tissue to transform permanently into bone. In 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.479 other words, a second skeleton grows on top of the first. 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.000 Early doctors posited that it was the result of two 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:29.479 souls trapped in one body. Hi, I'm calling about an 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.679 old case of a child with FOP back in the 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:41.080 early seventies in a village called Mattie Carrey. Okay, this 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.560 might sound kind of strange, but basically, in nineteen seventy two, 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.919 in the small farm town of Mahdi, Care, India, a 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:52.360 boy named ragu Basi Maadra was born with FOP. Some 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.359 of the locals worshiped him as the reincarnation of the 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:59.040 god Vishnu. You knew the location of that skeleton at 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:05.680 this time. Sorry, unusual cases, and my apartment slowly transformed 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.480 into a science lab. I pinned up pictures of bones 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:13.600 on the wall, surrounded by anatomy textbooks and medical journals. 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.280 If someone walked in on me, they'd think I was 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.840 a doctor, or a serial killer, or just a lonely 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.040 woman desperate to connect some dots. 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.080 And that our next guest is. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:29.399 Great. 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.840 Meanwhile, my ex husband, Vanil, a professor at Penn, was 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.560 on TV promoting his new book about ancient religion. 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.119 With you, and we'll just jump right in with the 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:43.879 first question. 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:46.440 Sure, does God exists? 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.359 It would depend largely on what you mean by God. 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.719 You know what our next move is, right, speciall exhibit 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:05.880 display her display the skeleton for the public, you think, 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.800 I know, it'll get people talking, and who knows, maybe 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:10.960 a real academic. 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:11.119 Will show up. 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:13.000 I'm a real academic. 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.800 Well, you're also a curator, and it's your job, your 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:18.920 responsibility to bring asses through the. 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:20.920 Door, isn't it asses in the seats? 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.640 You know what I mean? Besides, I'd already said, yes, 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.520 you spoke to the board. Well, I floated the idea, Duncan. 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:30.439 It'll be fun. 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:36.800 We'll have a party, red carpet, paparazzi, like a respectable museum. 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:40.760 Hi, I'm Duncan. I'm the assistant curator here at the museum. 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:42.520 Wow, this is quite the turnout. 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:45.280 Oh no, cute boys. 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:49.440 Well, Duncan is around here somewhere passing out wine and cheese. 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:56.360 Pass although I could use a drink. Shit, franky, Sorry. 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:59.680 It's okay, I'm a I'm back in the program. 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:00.840 Really. 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.240 Yeah, well, I'm proud of you. 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.200 Come on, let's go check out the star attraction. 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:12.680 Okay, Sda is right. 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.440 It is quite the turnout. More than two hundred visitors 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.880 have flooded the mutter to see Matilda. 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:21.439 There she is. 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:29.080 The skeleton is presented, simply positioned upright behind a thin 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:30.040 wall of glass. 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.240 She's kind of beautiful, don't you think like it? A 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:34.320 Tim Burton way. 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:44.320 It's true, she is beautiful. 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:51.320 Yeah. Hello, are you Thomas Pollard? If not, I've got 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:51.920 the wrong hat. 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.760 Yes, I mean no, No, you do have the right house. 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:57.920 I am Thomas Pollard, Mark Whitney. 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:02.399 I'm a friend of father Tim from Saint Louis. 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.119 Well, if it's church business, perhaps it's my wife you 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:06.800 want to speak to. 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:13.120 No, no, it's you, Thomas. May I come in. Well 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:17.040 you see, father Tim told me all about your invention. 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:23.280 Oh right, right, I may be able to help you. Well, yes, yes, 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:24.000 of course, come. 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:33.000 On Ina, mm hmmm, oh Francis, this is mister mister Woodney. 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.639 Oh well, but I hope I'm not interrupting, and I 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:37.399 think missus Parler. 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:42.400 No, no, no, no, no, it's I was just going 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.840 to make a coop of tea. Can I make you. 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.040 If it's not too much trouble. Yes, that well, that 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:48.840 that would be lovely. 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:51.400 I'm so sorry mister. 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:52.919 That's quite all right. 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.320 He we dog come here stopped that. 0:23:57.880 --> 0:23:59.160 I don't know what's gotten into her. 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:02.600 She doesn't like you. 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.320 What what you doing down here? 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.719 You should be in bed, Maude? 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:18.960 What a lovely name. Hello, little miss I'm Mark Marred. 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:20.760 Off you go upstairs? 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:21.000 Now? 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:22.800 Can I take Matilda? 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:23.720 Yes? 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:28.200 Off you go go on, good night, good night, maud. 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:34.119 Well, I'll make a cup of tea. I didn't like 0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:39.320 mister Whitney from the start. He was too rehearsed, and 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.480 the dog didn't like him. Either I didn't trust him. 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.080 Mister Whitney, how can I help you? 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.160 That's the other way around to us. From what father 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:52.040 Tim tells me, you're a bit of an engineering genius. 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:57.240 Oh well, go as far to say that. You know, 0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.960 I double don't be modest. I want to see your 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.080